I probably won’t be at my computer when tonight’s event starts, so here’s a placeholder.
From CNN, “How to Watch Night Two”:
What time is the debate?
Tonight’s debate will start at 8 p.m. ET and end around 10:30 p.m. ET.How can I watch them?
CNN’s Democratic presidential debates will air exclusively on CNN and will stream live in their entirety, without requiring log-in to a cable provider, exclusively to CNN.com’s homepage, across mobile devices via CNN’s apps for iOS and Android, and via CNNgo apps for Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire, Chromecast and Android TV…Who is debating?
Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet, Former Vice President Joe Biden, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro, New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, California Sen. Kamala Harris, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Businessman Andrew Yang…
Hard to argue:
If you ain’t at 1, you should be done. https://t.co/e3uYonQiDI
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) July 31, 2019
Jim, Foolish Literalist
If you’re still at 1, you are done
If you’re at 2, good-bye to you
Cheryl Rofer
Here’s a link to the video.
Raven
Wah wah wah. . .the media.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
#MoscowMitchTraitor is the number three trend on Twitter
Raven
How ya doin kid!!!
zhena gogolia
Oh, I forgot Gabbard is tonight. I don’t know if I can stand this.
WaterGirl
There’s only one candidate on the stage today that I am interested in. The split between the two nights seems pretty lopsided.
Raven
@WaterGirl: it was random
Raven
Hey how come they got these old fuckers with M1’s?
WaterGirl
@Raven: It may have been random but it’s still lopsided. I’m ready for over half the candidates to bow out.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
I’m interested in Harris, Booker, Bennet.
Baud
In another universe, I’d like it if the DNC could put out a statement that we don’t need to sing the national anthem to prove our patriotism because we aren’t a party of traitors.
Raven
@WaterGirl: life is hard
WaterGirl
@Raven: Dejavu!
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
lol
WaterGirl
@Raven: Are you mocking me?
Cheryl Rofer
Much better “Star Spangled Banner” tonight.
Nicole
I think I performed Charlotte’s Web on a children’s theater tour at the Fox theater in Detroit back in the last century. I was Fern. It looks much snazzier tonight.
I love the spectacles on the woman singing the national anthem. I love her whole look.
Ohio Mom
@Raven: Didn’t we cover that yesterday?
lamh36
“kid” AH…ok..then
https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/1156717547032600576
Baud
@lamh36:
Did someone lip read?
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Kamala should easily win this – she’s easily the best debater of the 25 running.
Baud
I forgot about di Blasio. Those were happy days.
Raven
@Ohio Mom: I’m waiting to see something we didn’t cover last night.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
Haha, my thoughts exactly!
Baud
Heckler.
A Ghost To Most
Enjoy the show. I spent all day washing kitchen cabinets. That’s enough crap for one day.
Baud
Michael Bennett’s voice could help me fall asleep at night.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: I loved Joe Biden for a long time, but now the folksy thing feels like a schtick. Joe is annoying the hell out of me lately. I’m sure he flashed his big smile as he said it. I so wish he hadn’t decided to run.
zhena gogolia
All I’m getting is ads — am I on the wrong thing?
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Me too.
Inslee’s ok.
Sab
@zhena gogolia: I am glad chose the williamson night instead.
Leto
I agree with Charlie Pierce: Kill This Debate Format With God’s Own Holy Fire. Do It Now.
Season finale of Archer is on at 2200, Sam Bee at 2230.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
BENNET
I’m sorry I missed him. for some reason I was only getting ads.
Baud
Hey guys. Did you know Tulsi enlisted after 9/11?
Mary G
@lamh36: That “kid” got on my last nerve.
Immanentize
Tulsi’s bosom is shiny
FelonyGovt
Did you know that Tulsi Gabbard was a soldier??!?
ETA Baud beat me to it
WaterGirl
@Leto:
Love the title, but the link won’t work for me. It keeps wanting to bring up my news reader.
Leto
Every time Gabbard speaks, she talks about enlisting after 9/11 or ties in her Army service. Basically Rudy’s noun+verb 9/11. It’s tiresome.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
I stand by my auto-correct.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I”m not watching but I see Michael Bennet is trending on twitter. Worldwide! HE should enjoy this moment .Get a screen shot or something
WaterGirl
@FelonyGovt: Did she serve with McCain? I heard he was a prisoner of war.
Sab
@Baud: Put your hand over your heart for the National Anthem AND the Pledge, although that is not what you learned in grade school.
New parties, Australians running our news networks, new rules.
Baud
MM will like Castro’s slogan.
TenguPhule
@zhena gogolia:
Don’t send her home, we don’t want her! //
Mary G
@Raven: You can tell it’s Democrats when one of the VFW has a long gray ponytail.
Leto
@WaterGirl: Sorry, try this: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28564593/democratic-debate-cnn-pete-buttigieg-elizabeth-warren-john-delaney/
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Baud: What a coincidence. So did Raymond Shaw.
Baud
Yang fans in the house.
Baud
Who are these hecklers?
TenguPhule
@Baud:
It must be good news for John McCain.
lamh36
@lamh36: Just an aside, but calling folks “kid” is Biden’s thing…but IDK…him saying it to Kamala right before the debate rather than in the back says he’s still taking the last debate personally
zhena gogolia
What were they chanting to disrupt Booker?
WaterGirl
@Leto: I am apparently not meant to read that article. It says I’ve hit my limit, but I don’t think I’ve read Pierce in 6 months. Hope it was as good as the title.
mrmoshpotato
No. Go Cubs. Go A’s.
FelonyGovt
I really like Booker.
WaterGirl
We’re going back to the future!
Sab
@Leto: Buttigieg did the same thing without being tiresome, because he doesn’t talk about in the meantime because he did something else ( run a small city instead of surf).
zhena gogolia
@zhena gogolia:
I have a visceral suspicion that they were Berniebros.
Baud
Audio issues.
Ohio Mom
@zhena gogolia: My question too.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: also he is stubbornly unwilling to learn anything, to adapt
Cheryl Rofer
Baud
@Cheryl Rofer:
Thanks. But why were they interrupting Booker?
Baud
Biden and Harris had good openings.
L85NJGT
@zhena gogolia
I hope they waste 30 minutes arguing about her eligibility.
@Raven:
Greatest Generation. Duh.
lamh36
Good on Julian
Gin & Tonic
@TenguPhule: Not sure you heard the news, but John McCain has ceased to be. He is bereft of life.
Raven
@Mary G: unfortunately there are plenty of maga vets with long hair.
Cheryl Rofer
@Baud: Good question
debbie
@WaterGirl:
Seconded. This country has had enough sundowning.
dmsilev
First question: Senator Harris, please fight with Joe Biden.
Leto
@Sab: He talks about things he’s done as mayor, ideas, policies… she’s just noun, verb, I served.
@WaterGirl: I’d post the article here but don’t want to derail the train wreck of the debate. It was good. Maybe try to view it in incognito mode?
WaterGirl
Is it shallow of me to always wonder how Kamala Harris has such shiny hair? I am jealous.
Mary G
Uncle Joe knocks it outta da park with “We love it, and we’re not leavin’ it.”
debbie
@Immanentize:
As in glitter???
Raven
@L85NJGT: There’s no one from the greatest generation in that color guard.
lamh36
Is something wrong with Kamala’s mic?
Ohio Mom
@dmsilev: And the two of them are complying.
Sab
@zhena gogolia: I think going to St Albans for prep school should be disqualifying for public life. Goodbye Bennets. Goodbye Luke Russert. Goodbye Al Gore. Goodbye Jamison Parker.
Baud
Biden can’t finish his attacks. Leaves you hanging.
Baud
@lamh36: Yes.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: No, but I only recently discovered that John McCain had been a POW.
Martin
@lamh36: That ‘kid’ qualified for AARP 4 years ago. Does Biden really want to draw attention to how old he is?
I like that he’s lighthearted about it – its hard to not just like the guy. But, not really helping his case.
dmsilev
@Ohio Mom: And apparently we now need the insights of one of the why-are-you-running? people.
Baud
At least they’re not shouting…yet.
FelonyGovt
Drinking game! Every time Biden mentions Obama! Does Obamacare count?
TS (the original)
@lamh36:
Then he needs to sort himself out. Not much different to calling someone “boy” in my book.
Raven
@Martin: He doesn’t give a shit about stuff like that.
dmsilev
Gillibrand: “Dana, that’s a really stupid question you just asked me”
Immanentize
@debbie:
Sweat?
debbie
@Baud:
Colbert’s impersonation of Sanders last night was awesome: shouting, arm waving (“I’m a spider monkey!”), the whole nine yards.
zhena gogolia
Gillibrand starts talking about what the Republicans are doing and they immediately cut her off.
Mandalay
Less than 100 comments and we’ve already addressed Tulsi’s shiny bosom and Kamala’s shiny hair.
What’s the next shiny object?
Baud
Kudos to Gillibramd for attacking Trump.
Raven
@TS (the original): baloney
Raven
@Mandalay: fewer
Sab
I realoy wish Tim Ryan had starred last night, so he had a future beyond being my Congressman.
debbie
@Immanentize:
Thanks, glitter suits her more.
Immp doing ok?
WaterGirl
@Leto: Good idea!
My favorite phrases from the article:
“…coupled with the worst debate format since Pericles”
“Meanwhile, the climate crisis was barely given a drive-by..”
“These debates have all the competitive legitimacy of a low-rent wrestling show in a legion hall in upper Michigan.”
Saving the best for last:
Baud
@debbie:
Oh, l’ll have to find that.
Mary G
Jake, Dana, and Don seem to have decided that every question needs to require everyone else to dunk on Kamala.
TenguPhule
@Gin & Tonic:
He’s just pining for the Fords.
Immanentize
@Mandalay:
Biden’s shiny forehead.
zhena gogolia
@Mary G:
They realize she’s the one who can beat Trump so they have to try to neutralize her.
TS (the original)
@Raven:
how it comes accross to me – talking down to someone as an inferior. She is not a kid.
Raven
@Mary G: she can take a charge
Immanentize
@debbie:
He is doing really well. Has moved from pain to boredom. Thanks for asking.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Interesting…. or not….
Leto
@debbie: Agreed; he nails the caricature!
@Baud: Booker made a good point calling out CNN for trying to put Dems against each other.
zhena gogolia
I’m relying on your comments now. I can’t stand the questioners.
Ohio Mom
Booker is saying exactly what needs to be said.
debbie
@Baud:
Here you go. It’s a two parter.
Quinerly
@Baud: I thought Biden’s opening was good. Love Harris. Like Castro and Bennet. Here I go again… Gillibrand’s voice bugs me. If I had read her opening, I would have loved it.
zhena gogolia
@Immanentize:
Oh, that’s good.
Baud
@Leto:
I liked his answer too.
Cheryl Rofer
I just like Corey Booker.
TenguPhule
In the event we ever get the chance, all debates for the Democrats should henceforth be given to the League of Women Voters to arrange. Any suggestion of allowing the media to do it instead should be met with ridicule and the introduction of a bucket of hot tar down the trousers.
Mary G
@Immanentize: So glad to hear this. Kids are amazingly resilient, but I imagine you must be a wreck.
Baud
@Quinerly:
His opening was the highlight for him so far.
debbie
@Immanentize:
Boredom is good.
Raven
@TS (the original): when you say it’s like “boy” it’s clearly racial.
FelonyGovt
This parsing details of plans is dumb. I liked Booker’s comment on “eyes on the prize”
Raven
@Immanentize: ah good.
WaterGirl
@Quinerly: I liked what she had to say, but the whole thing came off as so absolutely practiced that it seems more performance than sincerely held beliefs.
FelonyGovt
@Immanentize: Great news. Must be such a relief.
Leto
@WaterGirl: Agreed. Basically quit treating these events as game shows, our democracy is at stake ffs…
@Immanentize: I missed what exactly happened to Immp that required surgery but I’m glad he’s recovering and doing well.
Quinerly
@Mary G: I noticed that too.
Omnes Omnibus
@Raven: “Here’s looking at you, kid.”
Betty Cracker
This debate is already far more contentious than last night’s.
JPL
@Mary G: Also. How you doin kid is much different then go easy on me kid.. just sayin
misterpuff
Healthcare tennis. Biden on camera 5 times already. Harris 3.
At least, they are letting them talk longer.
Tulsi riding Williamson’s “sickcare” line.
Mary G
Castro and Booker always impress me, but between debates they disappear from my mind.
WaterGirl
@FelonyGovt:
A total replay of last night. Candidates, please fight about the details. Correction, candidates please fight about fucking anything because we want ratings and don’t really care about the country.
JPL
@Immanentize: lol Good for him and now you have to keep him entertained. When does he get released?
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: I remember people complaining that HRC was too prepared.
Immanentize
@Mary G: @debbie:
He is amazing. I am exhausted +- mostly by relief.
Baud
@Immanentize:
He’s watching the debate?
Cheryl Rofer
Bennet is the designated Republican for tonight’s debate.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
so will Kathleen Sebellius be the new Debbie Wasserman Schultz? The Voldemort of Rose Twitter that leaves everyone else saying “who?”
Immanentize
@JPL: if he can up his feed, maybe home Friday?
Mary G
@JPL: It’s especially offensive when it’s a woman.
Quinerly
@Mary G: I really like Castro….for VP.
Martin
@TenguPhule: Seconded.
Leto
Good point by Inslee on incorporating mental health with overall healthcare.
misterpuff
Tapper gives Bennett a runway for his centrist push,
Does Bennett have marbles in his mouth or is he drunk?
mapaghimagsik
@Raven: A Live Demo of Trumpcare?
JPL
@Immanentize: Amazing! You both are amazing btw.
lamh36
Comment from another debate blog I’m follwoing and I think this is true
chris
Had to mute. Watching these people discuss health care makes me want to start drinkin’ and huffin’ and snortin’ and smokin’ again. Could you just appoint Kamala and stand back?
Sab
@TenguPhule: With feathers and a rail ride ( no trains)
Ohio Mom
Is it “Jump on Kamala” night?
I like Inselee and think he adds a lot to the conversation. I also appreciate that this is what he sees as his role — he knows he isn’t in the running.
Betty Cracker
I kinda like Inslee. He’d make a fine veep.
Mary G
@Quinerly: Me too, though I wish he’d run for Coryn’s Senate seat. I think he would rake in the donations and have a good chance of winning.
Immanentize
Is it just because of my bias? Or is Harris dominating this thing so far. (The Immp and I are watching in his hospital room)
Quinerly
New thread up.
zhena gogolia
MICHAEL BENNET
PETER STRZOK
JPL
@Mary G: Kid is offensive whether if you are talking about your own children or not. My point was the other part…. going easy instead of how your doing, conveys a different meaning.
BR
Does anyone know of a streaming link other than CNN? It’s terrible and won’t let me rewind to the start.
Steve in the ATL
@Cheryl Rofer: was it the Richie Havens version? That’s always gone over well.
Steve in the ATL
@Immanentize: dude, you know that Balloon Juice After Dark doesn’t start until 10 pm eastern. Think about the children!
oatler.
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Tippecanoe and Tyler too!
wait, what are we doin’?
Aleta
@Steve in the ATL: Yeah, never give glitter to children unless it’s not your living room.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@Immanentize: OT: you have mail. Thinking of you and the Immp.
Semi-on topic:we have several more of these freakshows to endure.
Ohio Mom
What is this heckling?
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@Raven: You are my new hero. You’ve always been my favorite.
Steve in the ATL
@Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: next on the docket: “between” versus “among”
Ohio Mom
Once again, Booker clears the air.
He’s a good teacher.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@Steve in the ATL: Indeed; do you believe we can ever succeed with from versus than? As you know, best not to get me started.
geg6
@zhena gogolia:
LOL, you never can.
Miss Bianca
@zhena gogolia: I want Bennet to bow the hell out NOW and go back to being the Democratic Senator from Colorado. But that’s just me.
Steve in the ATL
@Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: too soon; that’s a 300-level class
rikyrah
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
???
Sab
Next debate I am bringing a vuvuzela just to bring a bit of gravity to the event.
I think CNN massively failed in its civic duty. We are part of its base and we certainly weren’t serious. How could we be?
Mandalay
@Ohio Mom:
Me too. If a Democrat beats Trump in 2020 it won’t be Inslee, but he’s the first person on that stage I’d be inviting to join the Cabinet.