Friday Morning Open Thread: Back Where She Came From


… “It feels good to be home,” Omar said into a bullhorn at the airport, where she was greeted by dozens of supporters.

She was in Minneapolis for a town hall with Washington Rep. Pramila Jayapal, which was intended to focus on their advocacy for “Medicare for All.”…

“He’s threatened because we are inspiring people to dream about a country that recognizes their dignity and humanity,” Omar said of Trump at the airport.
An hour later, Omar received a standing ovation at the start of the town hall.

“I know there are a lot of people that are trying to distract us now, but I want you all to know that we are not going to let them,” Omar told the crowd. “I’m going to continue to do the work on behalf of the 5th (District), because you all send me to Washington to do the important work of progressing our country.”…


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123 replies
  1. 1
    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄 😄😄

  2. 2
    Aleta says:

    @rikyrah: good morning! 🌖

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Day 4 of plus 95 degrees. Blech.

    ETA been at or above 100 in STL but I’m still gonna whine about our 95+

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    NotMax says:

    Random thought while tossing and turning last night..

    Wonder how, whether negatively, positively or at all, sales of AOC brand monitors might have been impacted since Rep. Ocasio-Cortez was sworn in.

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    Rusty says:

    Screw McConnell. In 1981 I was 15 and worked picking tobacco in the Connecticut River valley for farm wage for 2.87 an hour. Running that through an inflation adjuster, that is 8.09 now. Our current minimum wage is a lousy 7.25. A living wage is a moral imperative, 15.00 is a good start and not wildly out of line for the minimum wage of the late 60’s or 70’s adjusted for today. On second thought, fuck McConnell.

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    Aleta says:

    Tomorrow is predicted to be >20 degrees difference between life here on the river bottom (95) vs an island not so far away, where my dog is.

  7. 7
    Aleta says:

    “Ian” Abramson
    ‏I put the song from Us onto the Cats trailer and I think it fits better.

    Hello, I know this song is “I Got 5 On It” by Luniz. The version here, and from the trailer to Us is a remixed version.
    Here’s a link to the original, a very good song

    Eric Haywood @EricHaywood
    There is literally no trailer “I Got 5 On It” can’t improve lol

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    Aleta says:

    Didn’t T used to worry about the world laughing at the US? Now the image of the US works for a joke, no matter what actually happened.

    Seyed Abbas Araghchi @araghchi
    We have not lost any drone in the Strait of Hormuz nor anywhere else. I am worried that USS Boxer has shot down their own UAS by mistake!

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  10. 10
    Baud says:

    Good for the twin cities.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Aleta: No, he never worried about the world laughing at the US before he was elected, but now it’s personal. If they laugh at the US they’re really laughing at him and he knows it.

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    Tony Jay says:

    Nice to see that the more the Maggat-in-Chief pushes his racism, the harder decent Americans are impelled to push back to show what America can really be about.

    Keep it up, Donnie, at this rate you’ll be responsible for inspiring the biggest Blue Wave since Atlantis.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Good to see Rep. Omar welcomed home like that. It’s notable that Trump felt compelled to disavow the hate rally chant and lie about cutting it short. The equivocation probably won’t last; IIRC, he sorta walked back “lock her up” when that first became a thing during the campaign and has since attempted to abuse his power as POTUS to make it a reality. But he felt some heat or he wouldn’t have thrown the cult under the bus.

    One thing that’s bothered me about the coverage of the incident is that there’s almost no time spent pointing out that Trump roused the ravening hordes with bald-faced lies about Omar. It’s not an interpretation of ambiguous remarks from Omar or an opinion about policies she’s proposed — Trump flat-out slanders Omar by claiming she said she admires al Qaeda and has called for the destruction of Israel. These are lies.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    These are lies.


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    Baud says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    he sorta walked back “lock her up” when that first became a thing during the campaign

    I have no recollection of that.

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    @Baud: And yet, Hillary Clinton remains free.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Another broken campaign pledge.

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    NotMax says:

    Phew. Dunno what has come into season in the great outdoors, but thankful have some pseuodephedrine* in the house. And this coming from someone who actively resists taking any pills or medication – even aspirin – until symptoms not only reach but maintain red alert level. Without going into too much clinical detail, been jolted awake choking on whatever the sinuses have been cranking out for the past several days. Uncomfortable yet bearable sitting up or standing; going horizontal, fuhgeddaboutit.

    *Still miss the real ephedrine, though.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Baud: It was three years ago. Trump was whining about coverage of the “lock her up” chants, which still had the capacity to shock in that innocent time. He wanted credit for squelching the chant:

    Yesterday I made a speech in front of the great veterans as you saw, and it was very well received, she [Clinton] was there the day before. And when I started talking about Hillary Clinton, the veterans who saw her 24 hours before, started screaming, “Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up.” They also screamed that, as you know, during the speech I made. The big speech.

    And I said, “Don’t do that.” Now, I didn’t do that for any reason. I really — I didn’t like it. And they stopped. Not one reporter said that I said that. They all said — they started screaming “Lock her up! Lock her up.” I said, “Don’t do that.” Nobody reported that I said that, because it’s dishonest reporting.

    He’ll probably normalize “send her back” in similar fashion. Steve M at NMMNB imagines how the scenario will play out at the next hate-fest:

    I imagine he’ll say Omar’s name, the chant will start, and with a mock-concerned look on his face and a barely concealed grin he’ll tell the crowd, “No, no, no, we’re not allowed to say that. We have to be politically correct.” Everyone in attendance will know that what he really means is My handlers have fed me some P.C. bullshit about this, so I have to ask you to stop, but we all know that terror-loving bitch deserves it.

    Or maybe he’ll say, “There’s a certain person (dramatic pause) whose name I’m not supposed to mention…” — and soon the crowd will get the reference and start the chant, as Trump mock-protests.

    Sounds about right to me.

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    satby says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning 😊

    @OzarkHillbilly: mid high 90s here, but heat index over 110°. It’s so fucking humid that I spilled a puddle of water from a bowl yesterday on the porch, and it’s still there, none of it evaporated at all. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that happen in my life.

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    Still miss the real ephedrine, though.

    Your local meth dealer might be able to help you out there.

  22. 22
    satby says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: we have a lot to thank meth makers for. The real stuff worked, the pseudo stuff only sort of works. As a highly allergic person too, I feel NotMax’s pain.

  23. 23
    NotMax says:


    Your local meth dealer

    This is why we can’t have nice things. So old can readily recall buying real ephedrine OTC.

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    Baud says:

    @Betty Cracker: Ok, thanks.

    And they stopped.

    That’s obviously a lie. They still haven’t stopped.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: @satby: @NotMax: F’n dawg damned capitalists.

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    satby says:

    Thinking about all our jackals who are ill or supporting someone who is: Scotian, Imm and Immp, eric and his daughter…I know I have left some names off and am sorry. Keeping you all in my thoughts, as are all of us.

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    SFAW says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    And I said, “Don’t do that.” Now, I didn’t do that for any reason. I really — I didn’t like it. And they stopped. Not one reporter said that I said that. They all said — they started screaming “Lock her up! Lock her up.” I said, “Don’t do that.” Nobody reported that I said that, because it’s dishonest reporting.

    Betty –
    I realize the Liar-in-Chief said (contemporaneously) that he tried to tamp down the “lock her up” screams, but do we know if he actually did? He hasn’t (intentionally) told the truth about anything since 2015, and his ex post facto “explanations” — when he’s addressing something about which he has been ridiculed — have typically been blatant lies. So why would he be telling the truth in this situation?

    The few times I was able to stomach watching him — before my gag reflex overrode my bad sense — he has basked in the glow of the Scheissegibbonjugend cheering him on with the latter-day equivalents of “Juden ‘raus!” So why would he do an about-face, ever?

    Not my intention to give you a hard time — I really don’t know the answer, just have my suppositions.

    NB/question to Amir: Soll es “Scheissegibbon” oder “Scheissgibbon” sein? I weiss nicht.

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    NotMax says:


    My rudimentary understanding is that manufacturing meth requires using bleach. How about we require ID to buy that, and only permit sales of a half pint at a time?

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    Kay says:

    18h18 hours ago
    More stuart stevens Retweeted Chris Cillizza
    Lara Trump did a warm up act to cue the crowd for this chant. It was planned.
    “Lara Trump, daughter-in-law of the president addressed the crowd before Trump spoke, saying: “If you don’t love our country — the president said it…”
    “Leave!” the crowd replied.

    Follow Follow @Icky_Mettle
    Replying to @stuartpstevens
    There is not a shadow of a doubt in my mind his staff started it. you can hear it start with a bunch of loud young guys. and then the crowd at large started in. it was like the “applause” at his CIA Memorial wall speech.

    As bad as they are publicly, remember it’s always worse behind the scenes. This was planned prior to launch.

    Oh, well. The nepotism hires can’t be fired for any reason so maybe the Trump family members have some other brilliant plays up their sleeve.

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    NotMax says:

    Dolt 45’s guiding credo.

    “We become strong, I feel, when we have no friends upon whom to lean, or to look to for moral guidance.”
      – Benito Mussolini

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    rikyrah says:

    Wonder if anyone contacted Lin-Manuel Miranda 😊

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    Ken says:

    @NotMax: There is or course an XKCD for that. (XKCD is like Trump tweets in that respect, except at the opposite end of every conceivable axis.)

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    SFAW says:


    How about we require ID to buy that, and only permit sales of a half pint at a time?

    You’re like those (anti-)gun control nuts. “People get run over by cars, why don’t we ban cars?”

    Yes, I know you were kidding.

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    rikyrah says:

    Will remind folks…this was in the teleprompter. This was part of the official speech.

    I saw posted somewhere a tweet from someone. Of course, we have stats for how many naturalized citizens there are, state by state. This person posted that there are 400,000 in PA and over 200,000 in MI. The margin of Dolt45’s ‘victory’ in each state, was in the thousands.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: 2 litre plastic bottles are a requirement of the “Shake and Bake” method of manufacture, we should just outlaw them all together. This would have the added benefit of reducing plastic waste in the world.

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    rikyrah says:

    Wish the front pager would have posted the tweet of the reporter asking Dolt45 how would he feel if someone told the Birther Trophy Wife to back to her country. Of course, he had no response 😒😒

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    SFAW says:

    Randall Munroe should win the Nobel Peace Prize for Comics.

    I’m only half-joking — his stuff is almost as good as Walt Kelly. (OK, maybe I’m going a little overboard, but still …)

  38. 38
    rikyrah says:

    This is why the Chicago Police Department hates Cook County States Attorney Kim Foxx. This headline would have been unimaginable before she was elected.

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    Ken says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Didn’t someone find some of those processing bottles in a store once? Someone had got all the ingredients, mixed them up, and stuck the bottle on a back shelf to ferment. Brilliant idea in its way, they didn’t need to pay for the ingredients since they never left the store.

    I’m wanting to say it was a Walmart in Florida, but that seems a little too on the nose.

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    @SFAW: Every report I saw on the “send her back” chant included the video of Trump preening for 13 seconds while it happened. He can tell us we didn’t see that, but most people know what the truth is there.

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    @Kay: Remember, he only hires the Best People.

  42. 42
    Kay says:


    Betty –
    I realize the Liar-in-Chief said (contemporaneously) that he tried to tamp down the “lock her up” screams, but do we know if he actually did? He hasn’t (intentionally) told the truth about anything since 2015, and his ex post facto “explanations” — when he’s addressing something about which he has been ridiculed — have typically been blatant lies. So why would he be telling the truth in this situation?

    For me, the lying and denying Trump and the family and the administration do isn’t about whether they’re telling the truth. We know they’re lying. It’s about why they lie. We’re told over and over that the public support this but if the public supports it why do they lie about it?

    The lying is information of another kind. The lies tell us exactly what they feel vulnerable on.

    Hope Hicks probably lied to Congress. She was prepped for testimony so she may have succeeded in phrasing it in such a way that they can’t nail her for lying, but she misled them. Ok, so she’s a liar, like the rest of them. But everyone already knows they paid hush money. So why does she feel she has to deny her role in that?

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    rikyrah says:

    Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) Tweeted:
    One of the most chilling things about the “send her back” chants are the tweets from abroad.

    Our descent into white nationalism is drawing international attention.

    Trump is leading a domestic hate movement, and the world is watching.

    My new piece:

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    Jeffro says:

    Just ‘not going to take it up’ huh Mitch? Not a hearing or a vote? Gee that sounds familiar…

    Anyway, good on The Turtle for remaining consistent. I wonder how KY residents will feel about being denied a chance to earn $15/hour? Sure hope his Dem challenger makes this a major campaign issue instead of running away from it

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    Kay says:


    The Michigan governor made a strong statement and posted it, with video. They don’t seem at all reluctant to oppose Trump.

    The mayor of Detroit is extremely pro-immigrant, and that started well before Trump. Immigrants are key to his revitalization plan- small business. He actively pitches to them.

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    rikyrah says:

    Tweet in question

    Weijia Jiang (@weijia) Tweeted:
    I asked Trump if he would be okay with someone telling the First Lady to go back to her country. He did not answer.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Ken: I don’t know, hadn’t heard that one. Rather ingenious. Maybe too ingenious for Floriduh. Definitely too ingenious for Misery. The brainiacs around here put them in the trunks of their cars and drive around so the smell can’t accumulate in any one location. The only problem with this solution is they tend to catch fire from time to time, which does draw a certain amount of unwanted attention from the authorities.

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    Aleta says:

    Another amazing video of AOC, this time questioning DHS Sec’y McAleenan about his Facebook group of “10,000 officers in a violent racist group sharing rape memes of members of congress”
    He tries to get away with claiming it does not mean that the organization itself has a problem.

    Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1

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    Kay says:


    “I could say I’m the most bullied person on the world,” Trump told ABC News in an interview during her first major solo trip to Africa last week when asked what personally made her want to tackle the issue of cyberbullying.

    In the world. So arguably there is nowhere she can go where she gets the kind of acclaim she feels she is entitled to. It is unattainable in this flawed world where no one recognizes her greatness.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @SFAW: According to The Post’s transcript of the press conference linked at #19, right after the passage highlighted above, the shitgibbon asked a reporter to confirm that he tamped down the “lock her up” chant, and the reporter did so. But of course the larger point is that “lock her up” went on to become a standard part of the hate rally routine that still carries on to this day. It’s a yardstick to measure how quickly authoritarian rhetoric becomes normalized. Wouldn’t surprise me if this “send her back” chant gets the same treatment.

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    debbie says:


    The real joke is that Wussolini announced it himself. That immediately made it a lie.

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    @Kay: Harry S Truman had a saying, “If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen”.

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    Baud says:


    I wonder how KY residents will feel about being denied a chance to earn $15/hour? 

    Thankful that black people won’t be able to earn $15/hour.

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    Baud says:


    She could say that. It would be a lie, but she could say it.

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    MomSense says:

    People are incarcerated for far less than what fucking Hope Hicks did. Serious time, too. This is infuriating. I want Barr in prison. What he is doing is right up there with the worst of what this administration is doing. I know our country has never lived up to our ideal of equal justice but this is so flagrant that it cannot be allowed to stand.

    We’ve got to get these motherfuckers out of power and then prosecute them.

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    debbie says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m wondering if he’s beginning to be a little afraid of his supporters. They don’t seem to be in his control like they used to. Maybe, even, he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, and they would actually turn on him Quaddafi-style.

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    Gin & Tonic says:


    I could say I’m the most bullied person on the world

    She *could* say it. It would be a lie, of course, just like everything else out of every one of their mouths. Maybe Michelle Obama could share some of the memes that circulated in RWNJ circles when she was FLOTUS.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    Boy, that Baud has quick fingers.

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    debbie says:


    Seconded emphatically.

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    @Gin & Tonic: Or possibly Hillary Clinton, remember the stories that circulated when she was FLOTUS? She was accused of murdering people.

  61. 61
    MomSense says:


    And Eric and Emma. Thinking about our Jackals and hoping they are holding up ok.

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    Aleta says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Seems like he also converted to fiber optic brain stem.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense: Leto and his long suffering wife who’s nym escapes me at the moment.

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    Kay says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I didn’t even think about the broader meaning when I heard the Trump family and Trump Administration were ordering people out of the country. I thought “fuck you, you tin pot petty dictators, we’re staying right here”. What goddamned nerve. What are we, tenants in one of their crap properties? These sleazy crooks think they can evict us?

    They’re offensive nasty people on the most basic human level – one really doesn’t have to analyze it all. It should be gut.

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    MomSense says:


    Avalune, yes good thoughts!

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    Aleta says:

    @Kay: She doesn’t get that an anti-bullying campaign is about defending others instead of just centering herself. I mean, if she needs to insert herself she could do it by talking about bullying of first ladies, but mentioning MO and HC would undercut the racism and misogyny they depend on.

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    SFAW says:


    She was accused of murdering people.

    You seem to be implying that she didn’t. Seth Rich, Vince Foster, Bobby Kennedy, James Garfield, and Judge Crater beg to differ.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense: Avalune, thank you. These brain farts are getting more embarrassing every day.

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    SFAW says:


    Thankful that black people won’t be able to earn $15/hour.

    I expect the rate for them will be $9/hour

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @SFAW: You left out Judge Roy Bean and Billy the Kid.

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    SFAW says:


    These brain farts are getting more embarrassing every day.

    As long as you still remember your wife’s name, it’s OK.

    [OK, the correct response is: “I’m married?”]

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    Kay says:


    Her husband and his administration and her family members are bullies. She has no credibility telling children anything about bullies and the only reason she thinks she can get away with it is people will say the most egregious bullshit to children because they think children are stupid, easily fooled smaller adults. Marks. They’re not. They know a lot. If they had a flag they marched under it would say “fair”. They have elaborate rules and the whole scheme revolves around “fair”. It’s like the Geneva Conventions in their disputes. “Why didn’t you hit back?” “Because she’s smaller” Proportionate force. I have had them tell me they essentially reduced social shunning sentencing for a mitigating factor “his father just died”. Makes sense!

    I don’t think she’s good enough to scold them.

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    @SFAW: You left out Hamilton, Burr missed, it was Hillary in the bushes.

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    MomSense says:

    The politico/morning consult poll shows 51% of Americans support ICE deportation raids. I don’t know what to make of this. I am very unsettled by it and I so want to know what kind of polling firm that is.

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    SFAW says:


    You left out Judge Roy Bean and Billy the Kid.

    Judge Roy died in his bed, no apparent violence. [Yeah, yeah, I know — that’s how Hillary made it look, to fool the rubes.]

    And Pat Garrett killed young Mr. Bonney (or McCarty, if you prefer) in public, I believe

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    Aleta says:

    @Kay: As someone on twitter said, they should not be allowed near children. Certainly not allowed to use children of color and children of asylum seekers as photo props, the way she and DT and CBP do. It is nightmarish and another piece of their fascism.

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    gene108 says:


    Keith P. on dialysis

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @SFAW: 3/5ths, and you thought I wouldn’t catch that.

    @SFAW: I’ll bet you think the Earp brothers won the fight at the OK Corral too, don’t you? It was Hillary all along.

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    germy says:

    Rand Paul keeps referring the reporter back to Fox News. Reporter replies “With all due respect, sir, I’m not Fox News.”

    Our @JVittalTV on Thursday questioned Kentucky Senator Rand Paul about his objection to an attempt to quickly pass a bill ensuring the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund never runs out of money. Here is video of their exchange.— Spectrum News NY1 (@NY1) July 18, 2019

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    rikyrah says:


    Prayers being sent up for all of them, and lamh’s Maddie.

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    Sherparick says:

    @Jeffro: He does not expect those people to vote, or if they are white, he expects them to vote their tribe. The plutocracy has gone all in on Trump as they figure if he is reelected and the Conservatives get a 7-2 lock on the court by replacing Ginsburg and Breyer, then they are set to rule the U.S. as an illiberal oligarchy supported a passionate white nationalism and organized to support a system where “we gets all the monies, fuck you” for the non-rich. Matt Yglesias at Vox has article on many of the atrocities happening (as does Catherine Rampell who discusses how the science programs that are not conservatively correct to the Republican business interests are being blown up in the Department of Agriculture.)

    “… They feared, in short, that his rhetorical gestures of economic populism — he promised a higher minimum wage, a big infrastructure bill, a universal health care plan, and even higher taxes on the rich — would be real. It turns out, however, that Trump was just lying about almost all of that stuff.

    In exchange for deciding that he doesn’t care whether or not Trump shreds the bill of rights, Mulvaney now, according to an excellent team of Washington Post reporters, “has built what one senior administration official called ‘his own fiefdom’ centered on pushing conservative policies — while mostly steering clear of the Trump-related pitfalls that tripped up his predecessors by employing a ‘Let Trump be Trump’ ethos.”

    Mulvaney stays away from the trade, national security, and immigration portfolios and in exchange has carte blanche to run the bulk of domestic policy for the administration — largely free of any kind of public scrutiny. And imbued with strong ideological convictions while encumbered by few constrains, he’s free to enact consequential and unpopular decisions on a strikingly broad range of topics — from overruling the Health and Human Services secretary’s ban the use of fetal tissue in medical research, to the looming anti-labor agenda at the Labor Department, to reviving a proposal to enact a gigantic tax cut for rich stock market investors through administrative fiat.

    The upshot of Trump administration policymaking — beginning with Paul Ryan’s speakership, continuing under Mulvaney’s operation of the executive machinery now that Democrats run the House, and of course extending into the Federalist Society domination of the judiciary — is to completely neuter or dismantle the institutions of government that are supposed to check the ability of the wealthy and powerful to run roughshod over the rest of us. Polluters can pollute more, scamsters can scam more, bankers can go back to running the risks that blew up the global economy, and no legislation that would impair the privileges of the powerful can pass.

    It’s not exactly that the Trump Show is fake and Mulvaney’s operation is the real government, but it’s impossible to understand why the Trump Show we see on stage works without appreciating what’s happening behind the scenes and who benefits from it.

    American plutocrats have learned to love Trump

    On Monday, Brian Schwartz of CNBC reported that “Trump, Republican National Committee turn to titans of industry to help raise over $100 million in second quarter.”

    That massive haul of financial cash comes in part from people who backed Trump in 2016. But it also features big bundles of cash from donors who supported other GOP candidates in the 2016 primary and then stayed aloof from Trump. It includes people like Stephen Rosenberg, CEO of the real estate investment partnership Greystone. Rosenberg backed Hillary Clinton in 2016, but wrote a $360,600 check to the Trump reelection campaign — and I’m guessing it’s not because he appreciates the way Trump drives liberal elites wild with his blunt talk.

    Trump’s signature tax bill didn’t pay for itself as promised or lead to a massive surge in business investment, but it did boost bank profits to record levels. And it spurred a massive series of stock buybacks that benefitted rich people who own lots of stock and corporate executives with stock-linked compensation packages. He’s approving a Sprint/T-Mobile merger that will raise cellphone plan prices for consumers, repealed net neutrality regulations, and in one of his first acts decided to allow internet service providers to sell private user data to advertising companies.

    Under Trump, decades of steady progress on non-climate air pollution have finally been reversed, and his administration is hard at work writing new rules that would increase water pollution levels as well.

    Beyond acts of formal deregulation, he’s scaled back on enforcement of existing laws so much that law firms seem to be panicking about the possibility that some clients won’t bother hiring them anymore.

    This agenda, no less than Trump’s racism, is an absolute disaster for America’s immigrants and communities of color who are generally lower-income and more vulnerable to corporate abuses and pollution than more privileged people.

    But critically, it is also an absolute disaster for the vast majority of white people. There are simply very few people who benefit from a combination of more pollution and less economic competition, and there’s no way for the tax cutting to balance that out unless you’re part of the tiny minority of the public that derives the majority of its income from stock ownership….

    …And it’s easy for a dialogue on racism to swiftly descend into intramural sniping between liberals and leftists and NeverTrumpers about exactly who objected to what when and in the right ways. By contrast, virtually nobody is going to stand up and publicly defend the idea that it’s good that under Trump’s watch the air is becoming more toxic and that corporate criminals are getting off so easily that their lawyers may be facing unemployment.

    But racism’s function in American politics has been in part to serve as a kind of scam. The Jim Crow South had the lowest living standards for white people of any American region alongside the even lower standards for African Americans. And Trump is nothing if not a connoisseur of cons and scams…”

    It should also be remember that the American South from Reconstruction to the Voting Rights Act was run as an illiberal oligarchy with the forms of Democracy, but not the substance. Political machines such as the “Byrd” machine in Virginia ran these states for a corrupt elite, portrayed acidly by Lillian Hellman in “The Little Foxes.” Some of the tactics sound familiar don’t they:

    …To prevent such coalitions in the future and to end the violence associated with suppressing the black vote during elections, Southern Democrats acted to disfranchise both blacks and poor whites. From 1890 to 1910, beginning with Mississippi, Southern states adopted new constitutions and other laws including various devices to restrict voter registration, disfranchising virtually all black and many poor white residents.[11] These devices applied to all citizens; in practice they disfranchised most blacks and also “would remove [from voter registration rolls] the less educated, less organized, more impoverished whites as well – and that would ensure one-party Democratic rules through most of the 20th century in the South”.[12][13] All the Southern states adopted provisions that restricted voter registration and suffrage, including new requirements for poll taxes, longer residency, and subjective literacy tests. Some also used the device of grandfather clauses, exempting voters who had a grandfather voting by a particular year (usually before the Civil War, when blacks could not vote.)[14] …

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    Aleta says:

    Happy Birthday to seaboogie today (I think). (via reminder from S’jack).

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    rp says:

    @SFAW: What’s the line? Southerners are happy to be close to black people, as long as they don’t go too far. Northerners don’t want black people to get too close, but don’t mind if they go far.

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    Kay says:


    I mean the Obama’s were impeccable in their behavior partly because there’s a higher standard for AA families and that was rigorously enforced by media, but partly because they’re parents. They knew they were watched.

    Obama was doing a rope line once and a preteen girl was really excited and she pulled out the hem of her shirt for him to sign. He thinks that’s inappropriate and so he pointed to something else to sign- she got it immediately. It was natural to them, to behave well in their official roles. They don’t have to launch an initiative with a logo. They just know and I think children recognize that.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Kay: trump would have reached down and grabbed her panties to sign.

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    Aleta says:

    @rikyrah: I missed lamh’s comment about Maddie.

    I found it here:

    💚 💛 Maddie 💜❤️

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    rikyrah says:


    This reply should be a frontpage post.

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    SFAW says:


    3/5ths, and you thought I wouldn’t catch that.

    Actually, I was hoping you would. Clearly, that’s why Cole pays you the big bucks.

    I’ll bet you think the Earp brothers won the fight at the OK Corral too, don’t you? It was Hillary all along.

    I call bullshit. EVERYONE knows it was Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Chekhov beating the Earps.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    Clearly, that’s why Cole pays you the big bucks.

    I’m getting paid for this shit? I need to go on strike.

    And for the record, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Chekhov got manipulated into that fight by the Pierson’s Puppeteers just so Hillary could embarrass the piss out of them by knowing more about warp drives than all 4 of them combined.

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    Spanky says:


    @SFAW: You left out Hamilton, Burr missed, it was Hillary in the bushes.

    That one’s on Cheney in the bushes, not Hillary.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Spanky: I thought Spicer was in the bushes.

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    Peale says:

    @MomSense: good. We’re winning. Slowly. Remember it was almost a decade ago now that we had to go into mid terms with 70% of the people thinking that allowing the police to demand proof of citizenship or visa papers from Mexican looking people was a good thing. And 70% not wanting to close Guantanamo. You don’t get to numbers that high without significant numbers of Democrats supporting those things. At least within the party, subjecting immigrant families to harsh treatment isn’t as divisive as it used to be.

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    That one’s on Cheney in the bushes

    That’s just Democrat propaganda.

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    Citizen_X says:

    You know, SEND HER BACK TO CONGRESS would be a pretty good re-election slogan for Omar.

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    SFAW says:


    And for the record, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Chekhov got manipulated into that fight by the Pierson’s Puppeteers just so Hillary could embarrass the piss out of them by knowing more about warp drives than all 4 of them combined.

    For some reason, I’m thinking of Bob Clampett. Be that as it may:

    Little known fact: Yeoman Janice Rand (may she RIP) was modeled after Hillary

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    Wapiti says:

    @Kay: Kids understand “fair”. I think researchers have shown that monkeys understand “fair”; they react when one of a group gets more preferred food than another.

    I think fairness might be something to build a political platform around. Elevate fairness and call out corruption in all its forms: nepotism; unequal justice; income inequality; gender discrimination, etc.

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    SFAW says:


    I think researchers have shown that monkeys understand “fair”

    On the other hand Shitgibbons do not.

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    SFAW says:


    I’m getting paid for this shit? I need to go on strike.

    What are you, a COMMIE? You’ll do what The Boss wants, when he wants it, for whatever princely sum he deigns to give you — IF he thinks you’ve earned it — AND YOU’LL LIKE IT.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    I’m thinking of Bob Clampett

    Pierson’s Puppeteers:

    Pierson’s Puppeteers, often known just as Puppeteers, are a fictional alien race from American author Larry Niven’s Known Space books. The race first appeared in Niven’s novella, Neutron Star.

    Pierson’s Puppeteers are described by Niven as having two forelegs and a single hindleg ending in hoofed feet, and two snake-like heads instead of a humanoid upper body. The heads are small, containing a forked tongue, rubbery lips rimmed with finger-like knobs, and a single eye per head. The Puppeteer brain is housed not in the heads, but in the “thoracic” cavity well protected beneath the mane-covered hump from which the heads emerge. They use the “mouths” to manipulate objects, as a humanoid uses hands. The Puppeteer’s native language sounds like highly complex orchestral music, but they seem to be able to reproduce human language without difficulty or device, as well as the Heroes’ Tongue (Kzinti), suggesting their vocal arrangement may resemble a pair of avian-like syrinxes rather than vocal cords. The sobriquet “Pierson’s” comes from the name of the human who made first contact in the early 26th century in the Known Space timeline.
    Biologically, Puppeteers are highly intelligent herbivores; a herd animal, Puppeteers prefer the company (and smell) of their own kind. Their cycle of reproduction is similar to that of Earth’s digger wasps: the Puppeteers consider themselves to have three genders (two male, one female): the two “male” genders are the equivalent of human female and male (one has an ovipositor, the other produces sperm) and the “female” is a (non-sentient) parasitized host into which the ovum and spermatozoon are deposited.
    Socially, two notable traits of Puppeteers are their racial/cultural penchant for cowardice and their tendency to congregate in herds. The cowardice is thought in Puppeteer society to originate with the Puppeteer instinct for turning one’s back on danger. However, the trait is thought by many to actually originate from their herd instinct, as the instinct to turn one’s back is linked to an instinct to kick the hind hoof at an attacker. In Ringworld, when Nessus and the expeditionaries are threatened, the Puppeteer defends himself quite effectively:

    All in one motion, the puppeteer had spun on his forelegs and lashed out with his single hind leg. His heads were turned backwards and spread wide, Louis remembered, to triangulate on his target. Nessus had accurately kicked a man’s heart out through his splintered spine. (Ringworld, Chapter 13, published 1970.)

    Another behavioral trait is the coma state, broadly a cognate of the human fetal position–in the same way that ostriches are said to bury their heads in the sand, Puppeteers fold up into a ball, tucking their three legs and two heads underneath the padded cranial bulge. This is, in part, an explosion reflex, learned during childhood. Their cowardice is also reflected in their architecture and object design, as all the Puppeteer-designed rooms and vessels have no sharp edges, everything curves into everything else, giving a “half-melted” look and meaning that objects are less likely to damage someone inadvertently, through their own carelessness.
    A courageous Puppeteer is regarded as insane by his species, and actually shows symptoms associated with human mental illness, such as bipolar disorder, clinical depression and so on. However, aside from the crew of the Explorer (in the novel Fleet of Worlds), no human has ever met a completely sane Puppeteer, as no sane Puppeteer would ever leave the safety of the Fleet of Worlds (see below).

    So now you know.

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    chris says:

    People talk about Wyatt Earp, Billy the Kid a and people like that but I just learned about Bass Reeves, a 19th century black US Marshal who sounds like one of the toughest Americans ever in a crowded field.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @chris: Cool. I smell a Quentin Tarantino movie.

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    SFAW says:


    So now you know.

    Give me some fucking credit, will you?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @SFAW: Hey, you’re the one who brought up the Beverly Hillbillies. (who are a disgrace to the Hillbilly family)

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    @OzarkHillbilly: Wait, who’s Bob Clampett? It was a story about an ol’ man Jed.

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    @SFAW: He talks about it a lot though. One of his favorite whines is something is “unfair.”

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    SFAW says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    He talks about it a lot though. One of his favorite whines is something is “unfair.”

    I sometimes talk about quantum mechanics. I figure the Moron-in-Chief has the same understanding of “fair” as I do regarding quantum theory.

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    @SFAW: In his mind, “fair” is everyone adores him all the time, all the money belongs to him, and he’s on TV 24/7.

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    SFAW says:


    Wait, who’s Bob Clampett?

    On the off-chance that you actually don’t know who he was: here.

    I figure you probably do, but just in case …

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    SFAW says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Yeah, I know. I’m still having a tough time believing the morons in this country voted for him. I mean, I understand the racism and misogyny and general hatred of “The Other,” but the idea that 45 percent of the country feels that way is still distressing.

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    @SFAW: Nope, never heard of him.

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    SFAW says:


    Creator/producer/animator/something of “Beany and Cecil.” The Puppeteers were likened to Cecil the Seasick Sea Serpent.

    ETA: I don’t recall how old you are, but guessing you weren’t watching cartoons in the early 1960s, which is when “Beany and Cecil” was on. Ozark, on the other hand, being older than dirt, has no excuse.

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    satby says:

    @rikyrah: wait, what’s up with Maddie!

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    satby says:

    @Aleta: @Another Scott: thanks! My godson has that too lamh, it takes a while to stabilize as they grow, but it’s manageable. He’s now a healthy adult and wears an insulin pump, which has made a world of difference in how his diabetes has been controlled. So all the best to Maddie!

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    James E Powell says:


    The politico/morning consult poll shows 51% of Americans support ICE deportation raids. I don’t know what to make of this.

    There are a lot of really awful people in this country. A very large percentage of people believe that coming to this country without permission is a moral wrong and that those who do it deserve whatever suffering is imposed on them.

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    scuffletuffle says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Already done, see Hateful Eight.

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    JustRuss says:

    Dear Mitch:
    If your thriving economy depends on paying people subsistence wages, it desperately needs an overhaul.

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    NY Robbin says:


    Yeah, every time I start to feel sorry for her . . . Not to mention her reaction to the Nazi-like death threats Julia Ioffe received before the election: “well, she shouldn’t have provoked them!” She and her husband really deserve each other, don’t they.

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    Mel says:

    @satby: Me, too. Mold counts are high where I’m at. It’s a misery.

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    Mel says:

    @satby: Thank you. For your kindness, for your comments (and for fabulous soaps!).

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Wenn man das Wort als Präfix nutzt, schreibt man ”Scheiß-”, also ich glaube, dass ”Scheißgibbon” richtig ist.

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    J R in WV says:


    NB/question to Amir: Soll es “Scheissegibbon” oder “Scheissgibbon” sein? I weiss nicht.

    @Amir Khalid:

    Wenn man das Wort als Präfix nutzt, schreibt man ”Scheiß-”, also ich glaube, dass ”Scheißgibbon” richtig ist.

    HEY!! If you guys wanna speak Russian, go home for that !! ;-)

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    dimmsdale says:

    @Betty Cracker: I agree, it WAS good to see her getting welcomed like that. But my dominant reaction to seeing the clip was, “Where the fuck is her SECURITY??” Maybe I’m alarmist, but I think it’s just a matter of time until some right-wing dipshit takes a shot at her, and when I see Rep. Omar I also want to see a phalanx of beefy guys in dark suits, shades, and earpieces.

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