Late Night Open Thread: Look on the Bright Side


U.S. Magistrate Judge Jeremiah Lynch issued his decision on Monday, finding Andrew Anglin owes Tanya Gersh $10 million in punitive damages along with $4,042,438 in compensatory damages.

The ruling comes after a daylong hearing Thursday in which Gersh, her husband, and her therapist testified to the emotional damage caused after Anglin called on his followers on the Daily Stormer to “storm” Gersh’s family.

Anglin accused Gersh of trying to force the mother of white nationalist Richard Spencer to sell her building in Whitefish and posted personal information on Gersh, her husband, and their son online. A barrage of threats and anti-Semitic messages followed.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, representing Gersh, filed a lawsuit in federal court against Anglin in early 2017. In a statement released by the SPLC on Monday, Gersh said justice has been served…

Anglin was not present at the July 11 hearing, nor was any attorney there to represent him. He forfeited his defense in April after repeatedly refusing a judge’s order to appear in the United States for a deposition, and his attorneys subsequently asked to withdraw from the case.

“This victory is every bit as important as it would be if Andrew Anglin had showed up for trial,” said John Morrison, a Helena attorney also representing Gersh. “It’s also not surprising to me that somebody like Andrew Anglin who commits these acts of cowardice is afraid to actually show up and defend his position.”…

Anglin’s whereabouts remain unclear. David Dinelli, the attorney for the Southern Poverty Law Center, told the Missoulian in a phone interview Monday that his organization will move forward with collecting the damages recommended in Lynch’s findings.

“We are committed to doing whatever we can to collect whatever Andrew Anglin has that is subject to collection here in the United States, whether that’s cash, assets or intellectual property,” he said, declining to comment further on the potential methods for collection.

“The bigger message is that Tanya Gersh, a real estate agent in small-town Montana, was able to take on the web’s most notorious neo-Nazi and win,” he added.

“Andrew Anglin may stay out of the United States, and we hope that he does. … We’re confident and pleased that the judge’s ruling today will send a message to all those people that if they try (to do the same) they will be held accountable.”

Chief Judge for the District of Montana Dana Christensen will take Lynch’s findings into account and make the final ruling.

I can only apologize to whichever country sad little coward Anglin has self-exiled himself.

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    Yutsano says:

    I can only apologize to whichever country sad little coward Anglin has self-exiled himself.

    Five bucks says Russia.

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    Odie Hugh Manatee says:

    @Yutsano: Yup, and if that’s the case there is no need for an apology. They can have him.

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    oatler. says:

    Life’s a piece of shit
    When you look at it
    Life’s a laugh and death’s a joke, it’s true
    You’ll see it’s all a show
    Keep ’em laughing as you go
    Just remember that the last laugh is on you

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    Ocotillo says:

    I am beginning to believe Trump will use the “N” word in public in the not too distant future and defend it. GOPers will agree that rappers can use it, why can’t everyone?

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    Ohio Mom says:

    There are plenty of corners in the US he can hide out and lay low in with the help of his compatriots. He could be as near by as over the state border in Idaho.

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @Ohio Mom: This is what I’m thinkin’ too. No way his sort of two-bit grifter would survive in Russia, and he’d at least be self-aware enough to know that. And besides, like you say, there are a shit-ton of places to disappear, out in the West.

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    Jay says:

    while i am glad to see tanya gersh won her lawsuit against anglin, i fail to see how this in any way prevents this from happening to others. anglin is missing, broke, and the subject of more than a few other lawsuits he'll never be able to pay the damages in.— molly 🐶 (@socialistdogmom) July 16, 2019

    Full thread worth reading.

    Gwen Snyder is Uncivil and Antifash Gordon have had to go into hiding because of home visits at night by armed Nazis.

    Emily of the State has sought refuge in Germany, and won’t be voting, because in her State, voter records including addresses are Public Records and she’s already experienced Nazis hunting her in the US and in Europe.

    The armed Nazi’s have also teamed up with TERF’s to stalk and disrupt Drag Queen Story Hours at dozens of libraries across the US.

    Anglin was last seen in Thailand.

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    Suzanne says:

    @Ohio Mom: Yeah, I don’t think he went far. In the piece in the Atlantic about him that ran about a year or so ago, the reporter was apparently right behind him. I have no doubt that he’s under a rock, but a nearby rock.

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    Jay says:

    Having Richard Spencer on CNN is like having a Neo-nazi on a nationally syndicated news channel in fact that’s exactly what it Is.— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) July 17, 2019

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    jl says:

    Trump thinks he can dog whistle. Sometimes I think I see a demented twinkle in his eye, and a smug Mussolini pout after he thinks that he’s pulled it off. But his dog whistle is done broke down, and it comes out as a combo of steam calliope and air horn.

    For a while the GOP felt it had to cover and clean up. But last few days, it seems GOP had just decided to go with air horn and call it a clever winning strategy. And of course, they’ll go after everyone who confronts them, no matter who they are, in vile ways. I hope enough rational voters see that whoever they are, they will be on the list if they get in the way. A lesson in the old Soviet secret police saying ‘Give me the man, and I’ll give you the case’.

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    Jay says:

    Word of the evening for @NRCC communications folks: “deranged”— Dave Levinthal (@davelevinthal) July 16, 2019

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    MoCA Ace says:

    Anglin was last seen in Thailand.

    Makes sense… little boys and lax pedophilia laws. It would be irresponsible to not speculate.

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    jl says:

    @Jay: deranged, depraved, demented, degenerate, debased, degraded, denatured.. so many words for the GOP.

    At least they admit that every Democrat is merely deranged. Though it seems to every one of them. What a coincidence.

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    Jay says:

    @MoCA Ace:

    weev, his partner in crime was last seen in Transdnitria.

    They are still running around the Dark Web, Tor encrypted.

    These guys rely on cheap living, WiFi, lax or unconcerned Law Enforcement, bit coin and Western Union.

    And they move around a lot.

    And like a murder case in the Phillipines, which will probably never be solved, they have taken shitposting into the real world.

    They will tell 150 provable lies, 100 unprovable lies, 25 provable truths, 50 unprovable truths. And everybody around them does the same.

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    Jay says:


    Some poor unpaid Nazi intern was frantically cutting and pasteing for a couple hours using a House List. I hope carpal tunnel cripples them.

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    @Ohio Mom: Although Anglin claims he’s overseas, pretty much anyone involved in the case (except his lawyer, of course) believes he’s still somewhere in the States.

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    @Ocotillo: And don’t forget, the real racists will be the people, especially POC, who have a problem with Trump using the “N” word in public

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @Jay: I sure hope so; it’d be a shame if they had anybody even modestly skilled in Perl scripting working for them.

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    mrmoshpotato says:


    The armed Nazi’s have also teamed up with TERF’s to stalk and disrupt Drag Queen Story Hours at dozens of libraries across the US.

    “Pinky, are you thinking what I’m thinking?”
    “I think so Brain. But isn’t it long past time for drag queens to kick some Nazi ass throw their scumbag asses in the nearest body of water?”

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    NotMax says:

    @ Sister Golden Bear

    Asylum in Trump Tower?

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    Cacti says:

    RIP Justice John Paul Stevens. :-(

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    Jay says:

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    It’s not the first time Anglin has been sued and lost. The last attempt to put the Daily Stormer back on line was an attempt at a .AU host with money from the Phillipines.

    Anglin’s lawyer has repeatedly told US and Israeli Courts that Anglin isn’t in the US, which for the lawyer, would be a felony.

    While his Lawyer, Marc Randazza is a “freeze peach”, lawyer, he also has Bar status and offices in 4 States, and a lucrative side career on CNN and wingnut site InfoWars.

    That’s a lot to risk for a Nazi grifter.

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    Jay says:


    Cops don’t side with Drag Queens against armed Nazi’s. Which is why many Libraries have had to hire armed guards, rules of conduct, metal detectors, and either bring the Drag Queens in and out via a “safe passage”, or an armed escort to and from their vehicles.

    It doesn’t stop the verbal abuse.

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    columbusqueen says:

    @Sister Golden Bear: Anglin has been sighted here in the Columbus area several times over the past two years. He grew up in Worthington, his parents still live there, & they seem to be helping the little prick hide out.

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    Plato says:

    The House has voted to restore Nancy Pelosi's speaking privileges on the House floor. @NBCNews— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 16, 2019

    BREAKING NEWS —> Speaker Pelosi just broke the rules of the House, and is no longer permitted to speak on the floor of the House for the rest of the day.— Kevin McCarthy (@GOPLeader) July 16, 2019

    WTF the cowardly corrupt scum mean by breaking news?

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Jay: I realize that, but in these times, drag queens kicking some Nazi ass is a comforting thought. :)

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Plato: Is this because she used the word “racist”?

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    Mary G says:


    Trump appoints disgraced ex-GOP Gov Scott Walker to oversee scholars at the Smithsonian Institution— KAYLEE BURRIS (@KAYLEEBURRIS) July 16, 2019

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @opiejeanne: Yes. She lost speaking privileges for about 20 minutes.

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    Jay says:


    Antifia Groups in Ohio are pretty damn quiet. There’s three real groups, which have been “dark” since 2017, and one fake Russian account that’s been “inactive” since 2016.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Mary G: Okay not as bad as I thought. At least he’s just part of a board and not directly in charge of anything. He’ll get snubbed so badly he’ll probably resign soon.

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    Jay says:


    They keep selling fictions to their base.

    Then whinging down thread.

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    James E Powell says:


    If he keeps his mouth shut and doesn’t touch any of the displays, I’m sure he’ll be fine.

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    Jay says:

    @James E Powell:

    Ever see Night at the Museum?

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    Ruckus says:

    You have been reading everything I’ve written.
    The above may no actuallyt be true but it is a valid conclusion from what you wrote.

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    Ruckus says:

    “I think so Brain. But isn’t it long past time for drag queens to kick some Nazi ass throw their scumbag asses in the nearest body of water pig shit?”
    Someone had to fix it for you.

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    patrick II says:

    I hope she gets her money before Trump pardons him.

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    @patrick II: The judgement is from a civil verdict, Trump can only pardon criminal matters.

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    plato says:

    Now the traitorous treasonous thug is going after google for treason cuz rwnj thiel said so. Can’t make this shit up.

    Guess years of pushing rethugs and rethugs talking points in their search algorithm did jacksquat for google.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    Happy to hear about the Anglin judgment. That will bankrupt at least one White Supremacist scum ball.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @plato: Another reason for House Democrats to rev up the impeachment machine. Trump behaves like a dictator.

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    Shakti says:

    @Mary G: Out loud at my computer just now: “What! He’s a moron!”

    [I remember seeing this guy during an early presidential debate and thinking this guy is several clicks behind everyone else. Are the scholars at the Smithsonian trying to organize?]

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    J R in WV says:


    @Jay: deranged, depraved, demented, degenerate, debased, degraded, denatured.. so many words for the GOP.

    At least they admit that every Democrat is merely deranged. Though it seems to every one of them. What a coincidence.

    Long time dead but want to point out that you left out one of my favorite descriptive words: DESPICABLE~!!~ Works for all of those Rats!

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