Late Night Open Thread: Good for Harris

Vermont’s been considered a high-risk, low-reward state — only 16 primary delegates out of 4,690 nationwide”, chosen on Super Tuesday when the media attention will be on bigger prizes. And Sanders is popular with his constituents, if only because he’s familiar (and their expectations are low). But if Harris is running a fifty-state campaign, putting a VT marker down now would seem the smart move. If there’s local interest, she’s in a position to expand as the race heats up (and it’ll draw media attention!); If the new office doesn’t do well, best to get it out of the way early.

Speaking of late-night weirdness, and the Green Mountain state’s senator…

59 replies
  1. 1
    Doug R says:

    Kamala is SERIOUS.

  2. 2
    Paul T says:

    “Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!”

  3. 3
    Keith P. says:

    So, Alan Dershowitz is going to be in the news for just a tad bit longer.
    Choice quote: “I kept my underwear on during the massage. I don’t like massages particularly.” The new “I didn’t inhale,” courtesy of Mike Tyson’s rape attorney.

  4. 4
    NotMax says:

    “My precious.”
      – St. Wilmer


  5. 5
    MomSense says:

    @Keith P.:

    Bet his underwear has a fly.

    Fuck fucking Dershowitz.

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    NotMax says:

    Harris to open a Burlington Vote Factory?

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    NotMax says:


    Not at all outside the realm of conjecture that his underwear was older than the girl(s) massaging him. //

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    opiejeanne says:

    @NotMax: EW! I did not need that visual.

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    rikyrah says:

    Could have gone the rest of my life without this visual

  10. 10
    opiejeanne says:

    @rikyrah: Great minds, and all that.

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    MomSense says:


    This is the worst timeline.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    All the best to Senator Harris!

    And to hell with Wilmer. As I replied to one of his phone banker’s texts. “Wilmer 2020? I thought after losing an election you were supposed to fuck off to the forest and take up knitting.”

    Got me removed from his phone list. :)

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    trollhattan says:

    @Keith P.: @MomSense:
    Sooo, if the average age of an Epstein girl is thirteen
    and Dersh’s massage was from an “old, old Russian”
    [does some math]
    Maria Butina!

    It would be irresponsible to not conclude Dersh’s happy ending was courtesy of the FSB.

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    Aleta says:

    VT in July … her staffers can go swimming after work, eat cheese by a waterfall, rent bicycles or jet ski past Bernie’s place on the waterfront


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    Mike J says:

    Ka Ma La!
    Ka Ma La!
    Ka Ma La!

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @trollhattan: *sighs* “We built such a large prison so we could bury all these fuckers under it.”

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @trollhattan: Why do you hate Maria Butina?

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    Kay says:

    I could never get past my basic problem with Bernie’s “electability” which is this: he had to win the primary. I don’t know why losing that election wasn’t a bar to his being considered hugely “electable”. It seems to be happening again, he’s electable but not perhaps ELECTED, so obviously I’m missing something.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Is hair is not really red. Making redhead daughter very mad. Also, too much loving the guns. Knocking that off now, Maria.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Big Media Matt is getting on my nerves with this “electability” bullshit, seeing as Wilmer lost the 2016 primary decisively.

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    Kay says:

    So just assume for a minute it was all true and Hillary Clinton and DWS engineered a coronation which meant Bernie was the only challenger. Isn’t that “advantage Bernie”? Because he did run and he did quite well and the Clinton/DWC conspiracy acted to effectively clear the field. For Bernie. Who had no other competition. And isn’t doing as well with more competitors.

    I just can’t imagine sticking with this theory if he loses another primary, because he will have tried it w/coronation conspiracy and without coronation conspiracy and WITH went BETTER.

  23. 23
    Mike in NC says:

    Shitbird Bernie, doing everything he could since 2016 to get Fat Bastard reelected.

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    sdhays says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: If Matt wants to argue that Bernie is electable, I’d like to see him document, in detail, all of the other positive statements he made about the USSR and the pictures of Bernie’s honeymoon there and explain how some Trump voters will still be ok with him.

    If Bernie wants to be the nominee, he should be vetted appropriately.

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    NotMax says:


    “You say potato, I say kartofelina”
      – Bernie! the Musical


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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Why do you hate that the Brewers lost tonight? :)

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    seeing as Wilmer lost the 2016 primary decisively.

    You mean by getting beaten like a rented mule by 4 million+ votes and had no chance as early as May 2016?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Keith P.: @MomSense: He’s a commando kind of guy. Also: EWWW!

    The search for the naked truth leads next to Peter Simon, longtime Island nudist and chronicler of nudity, through his photographs and writings.

    Peter, who lives in Chilmark, has himself become more restrained about expressing his penchant for nakedness in recent years, in part on the advice of his friend Alan Dershowitz, the noted civil liberties lawyer from Harvard Law School (who can sometimes be spotted on the beach wearing little more than a cell phone in summer).

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    SWMBO says:

    @Adam L Silverman: There isn’t enough brain bleach in the world….Next you’ll be telling us that Trump is a nudist.

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    The Dangerman says:

    @Keith P.:

    Choice quote: “I kept my underwear on during the massage.

    Shocking (I figured he was a Commando kinda guy).

    ETA: Dammit Adam!

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @SWMBO: Careful what you “wish” for. :)

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    Ruckus says:

    My comment back today from a Ted Steyer email was along those lines, but I didn’t say what I was thinking, “Ted, go the fuck away.” Did say we didn’t need any more fucking billionaires as president. OK that’s still true even if the one we have now isn’t a billionaire.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Kay: His strategy, which he delineated Wednesday night on Maddow’s show, is that because of the number of candidates competing in the primary, even if it is down to only five or six by the time the voting starts, that there will not be a clear, majority winner in each primary. And, as a result, it will only take a plurality of votes in each state’s primary to become the nominee. And the Sander’s team strategy is that they can accumulate enough votes through getting the largest or second largest plurality in each of the primaries and, as a result, become the nominee.

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Presume you saw what’s linked within here to a certain noxious nugget of news.

  35. 35
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @SWMBO: I do not know and I do not want to know.

  36. 36
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: I saw it reported earlier. Feel the Joementum!

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    My comment back today from a Ted Steyer email was along those lines

    Tom’s brother?

  38. 38
    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Can’t help but wonder if they were wearing matching I ♡ Ahmed Chalabi shirts.


  39. 39
    Scotian says:

    May the Sanders campaign die an even swifter and uglier death than I am. Yes, I know bitter and biting but has been so deserving since his poisoning of the political well post April 2016 IMNSHO.

    On my own report, been feeling the chemo hit which is why so little since last update. Was able to stay up with my wife to watch Captain Marvel, which we enjoyed both for the movie and for spending time together.

    So have a good weekend all, and my own prayers go out for all those fighting the concentration camps at the rallies.

    Adam, I really appreciate your concern for me, you as I’ve noted before are a major reason I kept reading and occasionally writing to this blog when I essentially stopped because of my parents health failing in early 2017. I find your analysis work always worth the read, so to me, being held in regard by such a person carries a special warmth for me at a time it truly matters.

    Well night all, that has me just about to crash for the night. Take care and be well.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Scotian: Best wishes to you.

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    they were wearing matching I ♡ Ahmed Chalabi shirts…

    …and nothing else. Ewwww!

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Scotian: Night night, Scotian. Sleep tight.

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    @Scotian: Glad you had some restful time with your wife, get some rest.

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    NotMax says:


    Pleasant dreams, if dreams there be.

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    Ruckus says:

    His 100% identical twin brother who can’t spell worth a damn but has the same bank account balance.

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    Cacti says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Big Media Matt is getting on my nerves with this “electability” bullshit, seeing as Wilmer lost the 2016 primary decisively.

    Anyone who thinks red diaper Bernie is electable is either high, delusional, suffering from head trauma, or some combination of the three.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Scotian: Much love and healing light to you and your family. May your treatment be easy.

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    Immanentize says:

    Sweet sleep and pleasant dreams, Scotian.

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    rikyrah says:

    Thanks for checking in. Sending you positive thoughts 🙏🙏

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    laura says:

    @Scotian: Warm regards Scotian.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    case for Bernie’s electability which I think is a lot stronger than many Dems want to admit.


    yeah, sure – an 80 year old Socialist is electable. .

  52. 52
    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    “aren’t most drug dealers, black” ~ Bernie Sanders (S-VT)

    If he’s wasn’t a waste to time, Kamala would cut him to pieces.

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    sukabi says:

    @MomSense: bet he’s lying about the underwear AND the masseuse being an old Russian woman.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    “In a September [2015] meeting with Campaign Zero, a movement formed out of the Ferguson protests, activists asked Sanders why, in his opinion, there were a disproportionate amount of people of color in jail for nonviolent drug offenses. Sanders, seated across the table, a yellow legal pad at hand, responded with a question of his own, according to two people present: “Aren’t most of the people who sell the drugs African American?” The candidate, whose aides froze in the moment, was quickly rebuffed: The answer, the activists told him, was no. Even confronted with figures and data to the contrary, Sanders appeared to have still struggled to grasp that he had made an error, the two people present said.”

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    satby says:

    @Scotian: keeping you and your family in my thoughts Scotian. ❤

  57. 57
    satby says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: his supporters still maintain to this day he’s not a racist or misogynist in spite of all evidence to the contrary. Fortunately, the only supporters I know are now old white guys since most of the youngs have moved on to better candidates.

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    MomSense says:


    Hugs to you, Scotian.

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    Ella in New Mexico says:


    Not at all outside the realm of conjecture that his underwear was older than the girl(s) massaging him. //


    New zinger for bad jokes : “That one’s as old as the crust in Alan Dershowitz’s underwear”

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