Independence Day Planning Open Thread: Get Your Tee Now!

Of course, his minions will do their best to protect Lord Smallgloves from knowing about this. But when the MAGAts are faced with the conundrum of choosing between ‘defending Dear Leader’ and ‘supporting Our Sacred Military’… well, if it’s actually possible for heads to explode, Garden State Fireworks and Fireworks by Grucci may have some competition on the National Mall!

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    H.E.Wolf says:

    I haul out my Norman Rockwell “Rosie the Riveter: T-shirt every July 4th. This is the image in which she’s stomping a copy of Mein Kampf underfoot, and wearing her “V for Victory” button on the bib of her overalls. Very a propos during this administration.

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    sukabi says:

    Countdown til drumpf and co. sign an executive order renaming the USS John S. McCain.

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    Catherine D. says:

    I just wish I gave a shit about any of the McCains

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    Barry says:

    “But when the MAGAts are faced with the conundrum of choosing between ‘defending Dear Leader’ and ‘supporting Our Sacred Military…”

    They will choose to sh*t on honorable veterans every day of the week.

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    tokyokie says:

    @Catherine D.:

    I just wish I gave a shit about any of the McCains

    Not even Lucas?

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Catherine D.: This. I plan on wearing my DBT Dance Band of The Resistance shirt.

    If you’re ever in Golden on the 4th of July, try to catch the fireworks there. The surrounding mountains do wild tricks echoing the reports.

    Eta If we still lived near DC, we damn sure wouldn’t go down for the show

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    MattF says:

    I’m very irked that Trump will be dropping a turd in front of Abraham Lincoln on the 4th of July, but… what can you do?

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    Martin says:

    But when the MAGAts are faced with the conundrum of choosing between ‘defending Dear Leader’ and ‘supporting Our Sacred Military’… well, if it’s actually possible for heads to explode

    Considering that an Oregon state legislator has teamed up with militia groups and threatened to kill police (putting a bit of a dent in that whole ‘Blue Lives Matter’ argument) because they don’t want to vote on solar panels, I think it’s safe to say that the military is pretty fucked in this competition.

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    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman) says:

    @Catherine D.: IIRC, the ship was named after Senator McCain’s father and grandfather who were both Navy Admirals.

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    NotMax says:


    Assemblage of vuvuzelas to drown him out?

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman): you think MAGAts get that level of nuance?

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    EthylEster says:

    @Catherine D. wrote:

    I just wish I gave a shit about any of the McCains

    Actually I am quite happy not to give a shit about them.

    I can’t forget the scene in an old Baghdad market in 2007 with a closeup of the Senator wearing a bullet-proof vest telling reporters how safe it was in Iraq and saying the media was failing to report improving security conditions. A bigger picture showed that he was surrounded by military police and troops.

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    MattF says:

    @NotMax: I was thinking of ‘Lock him up’ chants.

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    NotMax says:

    @Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)

    This warship was originally named after John S. McCain, Sr., and John S. McCain, Jr., both admirals in the United States Navy. John S. McCain, Sr. commanded the aircraft carrier USS Ranger, and later the Fast Carrier Task Force during the latter stages of World War II. John S. McCain, Jr. commanded the submarines USS Gunnel and USS Dentuda during World War II. He subsequently held a number of posts, rising to Commander-in-Chief of the United States Pacific Command, before retiring in 1972. These men were, respectively, the grandfather and father of Senator John S. McCain III.

    On 11 July 2018, at a rededication ceremony, Senator John McCain was added as a namesake, along with his father and grandfather. Source

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    Give them less credit. They won’t think twice about trashing the military if they think they need to to stand up for their hero.

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    trollhattan says:

    “McCains three–let us be!”

    Next in the shirt line.

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    Jay says:

    The Oregon GOP's tweet about "heavily armed militia lay[ing] siege to Oregon's Capitol" actually shows a picture of loggers protesting earlier this week. It came from this article:— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) June 23, 2019

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    debbie says:

    I hope none of his supporters are stupid enough to rip up the shirt in front of the vets selling them.

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    Martin says:


    I hope none of his supporters are stupid enough…

    Let me stop you right there…

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Has Megan started shrieking that as JOHN MCCAIN’S DAUGHTER! ! ! ! (did you know she’s his daughter? and he was a POW War Hero? The family don’t like to talk about it) she objects to this politicization of her father, the US Senator and Presidential candidate whose eulogy she used to lambaste the President she thinks is good on policy but vulgar?

    (slightly OT: I’m not deeply invested in “Who funds the Federalist?”, but is there enough Hensley Budweiser money for that? The number $100M was tossed around in ’08, and that was before the stock market took off)

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    hueyplong says:

    @debbie: Our hopes diverge.

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    Another Scott says:

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Eta If we still lived near DC, we damn sure wouldn’t go down for the show

    We live in NoVA, and I’ve seen the fireworks from sitting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. It’s a pretty good spot for it.

    But it’s almost always ungodly hot, with little if any breeze, and after the first few rounds of shells there’s a bunch of smoke that obscures seeing the rest of the show.

    This year several of the Metro stations on the Blue and Yellow lines are being rebuilt until sometime in September, so us getting down there this year would be a major ordeal. If we actually wanted to go again.

    It’s much, much better to see on TV, if you actually want to see it. Being down there for the event is fun, once or twice, but it’s a strain under the best of circumstances.

    Donnie wanting to turn it into a Nuremberg Rally, disgracing the Memorial, and the Metro issues, all could easily cut into attendance this year. Here’s hoping…


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    eclare says:

    @NotMax: That is a great idea! Gawd those things are annoying.

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    Ruckus says:

    I get the concept of the USS John McCain t shirt.
    But my memory goes back a long time and still works reasonably well. I really don’t want to wear one even if it causes shit for brains to stroke out.
    Maybe any tool in the box that gets the job done, but this just doesn’t seem like the right one.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Yeah, I thought about buying one for a nanosecond. Then Sarah P. drifted through my mind.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
    Not only would they consider it, they don’t mind when their “leader” does it for them.

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    Ruckus says:

    @zhena gogolia:
    That’s just one line on the list. I mean it showed how much he actually cared about the job but still it’s only one line. And as far as I can remember he had one positive line on the list, one of his last votes, the one where he basically told McConnell to fuck off.
    I will defend him slightly for the USS Forestal fire. People complained that he walked away rather than fight the fire. In 1967 that was what he was supposed to do. It was after that fire when the navy figured out that on board ship, everyone fights fires or everyone can die. Before that it was only the damage control rate that was trained and supposed to do that. But on the Forestal there weren’t enough men and they couldn’t get them to the fire even if there had been. And of course the men at the fires didn’t know what to do. At least the navy learned. After that we all went to firefighter school and damage control school for a brief but reasonable exposure to fire and how to put it out on a ship. And we had two small fires on board my ship while underway. They got put out fast by the nearby crew and with little trouble because everyone was trained.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    Maybe it’s just me, but I have this funny feeling that if enough attendees within shouting range of the podium at the Neureichsparteitagsgelände an der Potomac started chanting


    as soon as he opened his piehole, it might work up old Agolf into a cerebral aneurysm right then & there.

    **NB: Same cadence as “U!S!A!”

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    JPL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s her only claim to fame. sad

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Another Scott:

    But it’s almost always ungodly hot

    So we have an above zero chance of Dump’s fat, orange, fascist face melting off?

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Another Scott: Yep. DC is hell on earth in July. Do. Not. Miss.

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    Jay says:

    Twitter has suspended accounts claiming to belong to two Saudi Arabian sisters who fled the country to seek asylum, as well as the account of an activist who was posting on their behalf.

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    Jay says:

    NEW: Nearly 100 internal Trump transition vetting documents have been leaked, revealing how Trump’s team team ignored a host of "red flags" about officials who went on to get some of the most powerful jobs in the U.S. government.— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) June 23, 2019

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    chopper says:


    They will choose to sh*t on honorable veterans every day of the week.

    and twice on sundays.

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    J R in WV says:


    Wife has a great Tee, Rosie making a fist with her arm cocked, and the slogan is:

    A woman’s place is in her UNION!

    Which my wife is for many years now, and me too!! CWA the both of us, since her union needed to amalgamate with a larger group.

    Twitter and Facebook are both fascist stooge web sites… all I know to say about them.

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    Mo MacArbie says:

    Oh, there’s a fish called a gunnel. I see a submarine called the Gunnel and I wonder, “Where the hell are the gunnels on a submarine?”

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    Shana says:

    @Another Scott: We’re in NoVA too and wouldn’t go if you paid us. I’m not real big on crowds, or heat, or hanging around for hours before a big event.

    We’ll also be on a cruise from Barcelona to Lisbon celebrating Hubby’s and my 60th birthdays earlier this year. Of course we’re also missing the debates but I suspect we’ll be able to hear how they went.

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    Jay says:

    @Mo MacArbie:

    A gunnel is a hole in a bulwark that allows water to flow off a deck.

    Used to be known as a “gun whale”, a hole in the bulwarks that permitted a cannon being fired from the deck.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Shana: Great decision. ;-)



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    Mo MacArbie says:

    Hadn’t heard that specific usage, but rather the rim of the boat in general. But then canoes don’t mount much firepower.

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    Ken says:

    @Mo MacArbie:

    “Where the hell are the gunnels on a submarine?”

    One either side of the screen door?

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    joel hanes says:

    @Mo MacArbie:

    gunnels on a submarine

    The nautical term that’s pronounced “gunnels” is spelled “gunwales”

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    brantl says:

    @Catherine D.: Seconded! John McCain disobeyed orders to get shot down, crashed four planes (1 that belonged to him (civilian), the other 3 belonged to the Navy) by hotdogging, and set an aircraft carrier on fire, by hotdogging, as well.

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