Well, Isn’t That Special

Alex Jone, asshole extraordinaire, might be in trouble with the law for something else:

Conspiracy theorist and InfoWars host Alex Jones sent child pornography to the lawyers for the families of the Sandy Hook tragedy, their lawyers said.

The law firm representing the families of the 2012 mass shooting, stated in court documents filed Monday they have contacted the FBI after discovering child porn in electronic files Jones recently turned over to the Sandy Hook families as a result of their lawsuit against him for calling the tragedy a hoax.

Jones publicly responded on a broadcast of his show that he is being framed by Chris Mattei, the lawyer for the Sandy Hook families and went on making what Mattei and his law firm, Koskoff, Koskoff and Bieder claim are threats against them.

“You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass,” Jones states on the broadcast. “One million dollars, you little gang members. One million dollars to put your head on a pike.” Jones then pounds a photograph of Mattei and goes into a rant at one point stating, “I’m gonna kill…”

So he accidentally turns over his stash of kiddie porn to the lawyers in discovery for the lawsuit against him (possession and distribution of which is multiple felonies), and then threatens the lawyers, which, as you may be aware, is another round of felonies. We may just live long enough to see Alex Jones broke, without custody of his kids, and in jail. I’d say disgraced, but the man has no shame.






145 replies
  1. 1
    Albatrossity says:

    At this rate Assholini will name him to be Sarah Sanders’ successor any day now!

  2. 2
    kindness says:

    I wonder what conspiracy theories rock it in prison?

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    TenguPhule says:

    So he accidentally turns over his stash of kiddie porn to the lawyers in discovery for the lawsuit against him (possession and distribution of which is multiple felonies), and then threatens the lawyers, which, as you may be aware, is another round of felonies.

    I think we’ve found Donald Trump’s next pardon.

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    Barbara says:

    So he doubled down on the possible felony of using a communications facility to send child porn across state lines by slandering the family’s lawyers.

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    lamh36 says:

    smh…disgusting

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    debit says:

    I manage to find a scrap of sympathy for almost anyone. Not this chucklehead. I hope everything bad that could happen to him does and that he suffers for the rest of his (hopefully) short life.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Alex Jones is yet another bottomless pit of rightwing not-goodness. For some reason I am unsurprised.

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    Anonymous At Work says:

    Truth is an absolute defense in American legal circles. If you peddle in lies, it’s only a matter of time.

  10. 10
    lamh36 says:

    OT, but…

    @Phil_Mattingly
    11m11 minutes ago
    More
    Acting SecDef Patrick Shanahan: “I have authorized approximately 1,000 additional troops for defensive purposes to address air, naval, and ground-based threats in the Middle East.”

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    germy says:

    LGM comment:

    AlexSaltzberg Jay B. • an hour ago

    Alex Jones’ side — InfoWars received 12 emails that included ‘malware’ that would ‘infect’ people’s computers with child porn. We have not seen those images.

    Sandy Hook’s lawyers’ side — We started document review on the database (offered for discovery) and discovered an image that was child pornography. We then contacted the FBI (who discovered more) and they are determining if InfoWars was aware that they possessed the images.

    ETA: The FBI also stated that the images were sent to InfoWars email addresses.

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    Luthe says:

    Apparently, the porn was sent to a random InfoWars account and the lawyers didn’t review the contents of what they were sending before they dumped it on the plaintiffs. So it might not actually be the asshole’s porn, just flotsam his lawyers were too dumb to vet before sharing it with the world.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Luthe:

    Knowing Jones and the way he and his asshole defenders think, I wouldn’t be surprised if they deliberately sent the kiddie porn to try and entrap the Sandy Hook families’ lawyers in some way.

    Unfortunately for them, I believe that the mere transmission of kiddie porn is a felony in itself, so pleading ignorance may not be as helpful as they think. IANAL, though.

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    Another Scott says:

    Careful, JC. Wonkette (and just about everyone else on the planet) is being sued for $12,000,000,000.00 by Blankenship for using the word “felon”.

    There are lots of litigation-happy people out there. :-(

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    Are ALL these RWNJ assholes into kiddie porn? Really?

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    ThresherK says:

    @Miss Bianca: Some cabana boys are of age.

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    Baud says:

    @Luthe:

    So it might not actually be the asshole’s porn, just flotsam his lawyers were too dumb to vet before sharing it with the world.

    I’m confident everyone would act reasonably if the same thing happened to Hillary’s email server.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Karma is a beach… in Texas.

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    oatler. says:

    Trump pardon on the way…

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    J R in WV says:

    Mr Jones is a despicable piece of disgusting flotsam in a giant treatment tank owned by the Dallas Sanitation Commission [note: this is a fictional organization, but the description of Alex Jones is real!] and no one should believe him when the other option is believing that Alex is a despicable piece of disgusting flotsam.

    Look up his divorce!

    Lawyers willing to work for Alex are also pretty low, even allowing for the fact that even child molesters and infant pornographers are entitled to a good defense.

    I was once on a Grand Jury that had to examine a package of child porn assembled by the WV State Police. Being on a murder petit jury was easy peasy compared to that. Those guys are way past sick… way past.

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    Dan B says:

    In other awful developments Tony Perkins has been elected head of the US Committee on International Religious Freedom. Perkins organization, the Family Research Council, is rabidly anti-LGBT. He’s also violently opposed to Muslims.

    What could go wrong?

    He probably loves MBS and all things Saudi like beheadings.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    Remember Pizzagate? Alex Jones had a part in spreading that.
    Always projection, like clockwork that is reliably predictable but that one has a hard time fully believing because it is so demented.

    As Pizzagate propagated across social media through various fake news outlets, with strategic command in charge of Hillary-bashing operations taking the hysteria to a new level, many people, lacking the apparent ability to tell fact from fiction, took the whole production for a real news story. One such misguided individual, a 28-year-old man from Salisbury, North Carolina, named Edgar Maddison Welch, decided to respond to Alex Jones’ impassioned pleas for General Kenobi someone to take matters into their own hands and “personally investigate”.

    (Note: to be clear, anyone, political affiliation irrelevant, involved in such child abuse deserves strong punishment. And yes, I loath Alex Jones. And child porn is not pedophilia but is fairly close.)

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    germy says:

    Billionaire activists Koch Brothers are getting involved in Democratic primaries to help protect incumbents… Want to Prevent Future AOCs https://t.co/s8TkPVAZdK— Soraya Chemaly (@schemaly) June 16, 2019

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    burnspbesq says:

    The line that describes this fiasco perfectly comes from All the President’s Men:

    “The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.”

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    Cermet says:

    The strange aspect of this is that Alex Jones is just a typical wealthy and self entitled republican – that is the scary part.

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    Damned_at_Random says:

    @Baud: Winning!

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    rikyrah says:

    Take👏ALL👏his👏money👏

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    jl says:

    I vaguely remember reading that for a while one of Jones’ favorite targets of insane bile was state and local child protective and welfare services.
    So, maybe the stuff is random criminal junk that was going to someone associated with Infowars not named Jones. But, it is food for thought for those who think that it is all projection with those people.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Another Scott:
    Calling someone a criminal is the classic definition of libel per se. Step carefully unless, it seems, you are a “publisher.”

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    MomSense says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    It’s looking that way.

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    germy says:

    @rikyrah: Definitely side-eye emoji.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Anonymous At Work:

    Truth is an absolute defense in American legal circles

    Only in defamation cases.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @germy: My 88 year old aunt was sad when Hillary lost because she’d always wanted to see a woman president and wasn’t sure she had enough years left in her until the next possibility (so far, so good, she’s still kicking).

    I’d like to live long enough to see both Koch brothers buried.

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    NotMax says:

    What time does Pompeo hold a presser to announce Iran is behind it?

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    @Immanentize:
    Truth is an absolute defense against defamation in the US, so calling Don Blankenship a criminal would be protected. OTOH, he was only convicted of a misdemeanor, not a felony, so calling him a felon would not be protected.

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    germy says:

    @Ohio Mom: And Mercer (becky and her dad)

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    “You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass,” Jones states on the broadcast.

    I’ll get you and your little dog tooooooooo!

    Someone should’ve dropped a house on Alex Jones long ago regardless of who’s responsible for this kiddie porn.

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    Immanentize says:

    @germy:
    I would rather have the Kochs spending money in Dem primaries than in Republican elections. I know they have a LOT of cash, but this move costs and is counter productive.

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    Kenneth Fair says:

    As I understand the story, it appears the child pornography at issue was contained in spam emails sent to InfoWars email addresses. When Jones’s lawyer originally produced emails to the plaintiffs’ counsel, he didn’t produce them in native format with the attached metadata, as he was supposed to. Plaintiffs’ counsel objected and got an order requiring Jones’s lawyer to produce the emails in native format. But then, apparently, his lawyer just turned over a big pile of emails without reviewing them first, including the emails containing the child porn. When plaintiffs’ counsel discovered it, they called the FBI, as they should have, and notified Jones’s lawyer.

    This is where things went off the rails. Instead of apologizing to plaintiffs’ counsel for their screwup, Jones and his lawyer went on Jones’s show, and Jones accused the plaintiffs’ counsel of setting him up by sending him child porn. He also directly threatened one of the lawyers by name.

    So while it doesn’t appear Jones is guilty of trafficking in child porn, he’s still a major-league scumbag.

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    germy says:

    Just imagine the fine tapestry of logical leaps and creepy innuendo Alex Jones would weave out of Alex Jones's present legal situation.— Schooley (@Rschooley) June 17, 2019

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    germy says:

    @Immanentize: Yes, but their goal is electing DINOs. We don’t need DINOs, especially nowadays.

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    Someone asked on Twitter a good question: Why didn’t Jones’ own lawyers – who are supposed to vet the materials getting shipped to the opposing attorneys – didn’t spot the damn child porn before it went out? Were Jones’ lawyers trying to drown the Sandy Hook lawyers with too much junk to hide something, and ended up sending too many of Jones’ stuff? If so, they failed spectacularly.

    I doubt the Sandy Hook lawyers are setting up Jones on this. Staging this would bring a ton of trouble on them to where they could get disbarred (for starters). This has all the feel of wingnuttia legal ineptitude failing their due diligence.

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    chopper says:

    in all honesty, if i were even slightly right wing and had conspiracy theory tendencies, this shit would be right up that alley. i’m sure a buncha these assholes are gonna eat this up.

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    chopper says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    This fuckin guy.

    at this point, this is my most used quote. i think i say this about 20 times a day. more than dad jokes!

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    germy says:

    When Alex Jones goes to prison we can just say he was a crisis actor or a hoax that never actually existed. https://t.co/Qi5EhIqtAJ— The Volatile Mermaid (@OhNoSheTwitnt) June 17, 2019

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    germy says:

    Remember how the president of the United States praised this guy and appeared on his show. Any journalist who gets a sit down with Trump and doesn’t ask about him and Alex Jones really should ask themselves why. It’s one of the most underreported aspects of his political record. https://t.co/MWAyEC0bkP— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) June 17, 2019

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    Immanentize says:

    @germy: But they have no clue who the next AOC will be. They never would have spent money on Crowley’s primary. She was NOT A THREAT.

    So, they will support Manchins in Manchin land where no AOC really has a chance. And they will spend nothing on like, Debbie Wasserman Shultz’s primary, where a disrupter could win.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Did you ever get a call through to your wife? Are all the OzarkHillbillies accounted for?

    It just started raining here again, seems like there’s thunder every other hour on the hour the past few days. The back corner of my basement must be pretty soggy by now.

  51. 51
    lamh36 says:

    @NatashaBertrand
    Wow—Paul Manafort Seemed Headed to Rikers. Then the Justice Department Intervened.

    https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1140768676725088256

  52. 52
    Immanentize says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: is it a beach in the holler? Everyone safe?

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    germy says:

    @Immanentize:

    But they have no clue who the next AOC will be.

    Are you sure? They listen to stump speeches. If they hear a candidate sounding too progressive, they’ll throw money at the more conservative opponent. Conservative Democrats are just as corruptible as Republicans.

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    gene108 says:

    @germy:

    Democrats should refuse their money and any ad by the Kochs, should be met with a short rebuttal response ad: “The ad was paid for by the Koch Brothers to ratfuck Democratic primaries”

    I really hate them. Born rich and spending their vast fortune to make sure poor people suffer. Self-righteous evil motherfuckers.

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    Anonymous At Work says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Libel too, primarily but intentional affliction of emotional harm is a common law tort and “truth” would serve as a defense there too.

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    gene108 says:

    @germy:

    AOC is in a very liberal part of the country. I’m not sure how many places another AOC can win, in the near future.

    What they are truly scared of is the fact the country is getting more liberal and might regulate their polluting businesses more, cut back on fossil fuels they rely on to be rich, and will tax their kids and grandkids a smidge more, while providing more services for the rest of us.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Immanentize:

    Calling someone a criminal is the classic definition of libel per se. Step carefully unless, it seems, you are a “publisher.”

    What about calling them “a despicable piece of disgusting flotsam in a giant treatment tank owned by the Dallas Sanitation Commission?!?”

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    @Immanentize:

    I would rather have theKochs spending money in Dem primaries than in Republican elections.

    I would rather they not spend their money on politics at all. If they spend their money in Democratic primaries, you can bet they’re pushing either for moderates in places where liberals can win or liberals in places where they think it will help the Republican. They aren’t doing it to help the Democrats push more liberal policies, that’s for damn sure.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Kenneth Fair:

    This is where things went off the rails.

    Alex Jones was never on the rails to begin with.

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    chopper says:

    @lamh36:

    wait, what? the DOJ intervened to have him moved from rikers over charges in new york, to a fed holding facility? the fuck?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @J R in WV:

    What about calling them “a despicable piece of disgusting flotsam in a giant treatment tank owned by the Dallas Sanitation Commission?!?”

    Then you have deal with a suit from the Dallas Sanitation dept. for emotional distress.

  62. 62
    TenguPhule says:

    McConnell: I don’t know why Jon Stewart is ‘all bent out of shape’ on 9/11 victims fund

    The day when McConnell gets stabbed to death in broad daylight while everyone else around him looks away draws nearer.

    Is there a non-Republican group left he hasn’t mortally offended?

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    Betty Cracker says:

    So let it be written, so let it be done.

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    @Immanentize:

    So, they will support Manchins in Manchin land where no AOC really has a chance.

    No, they won’t. In places where the Republican has any chance, they’ll either stay out, or they’ll push for an AOC type who they see as having a worse chance of beating the Republican. In places where actual liberals can win, they’ll help the centrists.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    A few months ago, someone at Wonkette shared the full four-hour video of Alex Jones’ testimony in (I think) the Sandy Hook suit.

    It was a nasty, rainy afternoon, so out of a surfeit of boredom-cum-masochism, I ….

    Reader, I watched it.

    “Despicable piece of sewage-floating scum” is a compliment.

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    chris says:

    ITMFA. Could y’all please elect a bunch more Katie Porters?

    Today I wanted to speak directly to the people of CA-45. There's been a lot of noise in D.C. and in the press about impeachment, so I wanted to share my thoughts with you. pic.twitter.com/ceri6lHwbY— Rep. Katie Porter (@RepKatiePorter) 18 June 2019

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @ThresherK:

    I have occasionally heard of malware viruses that take over your computer and start downloading porn, but it ain’t a secret process that the end user would be unaware of.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Immanentize:

    they will support Manchins in Manchin land

    “And in the name of the Anthracite Guild
    We wish to welcome you to Manchin Land!”

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    I have occasionally heard of malware viruses that take over your computer and start downloading porn,

    Isn’t this pretty much what happened on Balloon Juice a week or so ago?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Bill Arnold:

    Trump is a known and close pal of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

    It was not a coincidence that the Democrats were smeared as pedophiles. It was a deliberate and calculated attempt to muddy the waters and make it harder for Democrats to point out Trump’s longtime ties to Epstein.

    I know there are some dudes who claim they came up with Pizzagate all on their own, but they’re either lying or too stupid to realize who planted the idea in their pointy little heads.

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    @SiubhanDuinne:

    And in the name of the Anthracite Guild

    I don’t think the Koch Brothers support guilds.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Ohio Mom:

    Did you ever get a call through to your wife? Are all the OzarkHillbillies accounted for?

    What what what? I must’ve missed something vital. Hope all is well, dear Ozark!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Roger Moore:

    I don’t think the Koch Brothers support guilds.

    Probably not, but you’d have to consult Steveinthe to be sure.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Barbara: child porno is about as bad as gets, but slandering lawyers on top of that? Indefensible.

    Steve on Route 66

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: you rang?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Kenneth Fair:

    Instead of apologizing to plaintiffs’ counsel for their screwup, Jones and his lawyer went on Jones’s show, and Jones accused the plaintiffs’ counsel of setting him up by sending him child porn.

    Yep, that’s what I was saying — IMO including the kiddie porn in the email dump was a deliberate attempt by Jones and his team to discredit the Sandy Hook families’ lawyers.

    If the FBI is able to prove that, Jones and his lawyers are in a whole heap of trouble, because knowingly transmitting kiddie porn is a felony all by itself.

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    Barbara says:

    @PaulWartenberg: Re: reviewing stuff before it goes out — it is increasingly common not to do thorough reviews, once you pass a certain level of screening. Almost everyone reviews for privilege, but I have seen cases where they don’t even bother to do that and just agree to preserve privilege and have a right of clawback. Here, he just dumped what sounds like a server full of emails on them. The volume of stuff that now exists is just ovetwhelming.

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    rattlemullet says:

    Tar and feather worked well for folks like him.

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    NotMax says:

    Can we maybe have a less topically odious front page post now?

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    Martin says:

    @chris: Do you know how fucking hard it was to elect this Katie Porter? She’s wonderful. Elect more women y’all.

    I’m hopeful we’ll get a Dem in Duncan Hunters seat soon.

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    gene108 says:

    @Ohio Mom:

    They are around 80 years old, give or take a few years.

    Them dying, unless in utter agony, will not make my day.

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    Barbara says:

    @Steve in the ATL: It is indefensible to accuse someone else of trafficking in kiddie porn, lawyer or not.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @lamh36:

    Well, that seems super corrupt. 🤬 Though I suppose an argument could be made that Manafort is very likely to be murdered at Rikers and unable to provide any further testimony.

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Yup. That’s why I was saying that if malware does try to download porn to your computer, you’ll know right away. That’s kind of the point of the malware, unless you’re trying to frame someone.

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    JPL says:

    @lamh36: I actually hoped he would go to Rikers, but then it was pointed out to me that it was not a state prison. No one mentioned that Barr would block that from happening. I’m so disappointed that the legal eagles on this very site did not come up with that .

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    japa21 says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Why wouldn’t they. Guilds were groups of like businesses supporting each other against labor demands and the like. And being taxed too much. And having upstart competition. And in favor of business subsidies. Koch brothers were probably very much in favor of guilds.

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    chris says:

    @Martin: Yeah, I followed her story. It’s just so wonderful to see someone who can think her way through things and express those thoughts in actual sentences and paragraphs. No bullshit, no soundbites, gets me every time.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Barbara:

    You’d think that it would have been caught with a basic malware screening before they sent it, though. That’s what makes me suspicious that Jones and his team did it on purpose.

    And if malware screenings aren’t standard practice before sending someone an info dump of assorted emails, it sounds like they should be.

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    NotMax says:

    @Mnemosyne

    Depends on how your computer and browser are configured. If you’ve already had malware being stealthily downloaded successfully, that door is not necessarily discriminatory as to what content passes through it.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: That was a couple of threads ago. OH was worried about Mrs. OH driving in the downpour and tne phone wasn’t working. I’m thinking no news = all is well.

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    MomSense says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I was going to say now we all have that stuff on our devices.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    I know there are some dudes who claim they came up with Pizzagate all on their own, but they’re either lying or too stupid to realize who planted the idea in their pointy little heads.

    I’ve wondered about that too.
    This sort of thing works until it breaks, then it blows back. I.e. there are many devious actors involved in L’affaire Trump, some of whom wish him and his ilk bad outcomes. But you may be right and it may be that straightforward.

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    EthylEster says:

    Wow. A Cole post that contains zero “fucks”.
    Mom must be proud.

    I see now that he did work Fuck into the tag.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @gene108: That could be close to another twenty years of them!

    I think I heard one of them has some awful condition but we must assume they get great medical care.

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    NotMax says:

    @EhtylEster
    And zero “pergolas.” :)

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Bill Arnold:

    I’m going to walk back what I said about half a step and say that when the dudes who started spreading the Pinball Pizza pedophile ring rumors claimed it was all a joke and they had no idea that Trump was friends with a convicted pedophile, that’s what they’re lying about. I had seen a few stories about Trump and his ties to Epstein a couple of months before the Pinball stories started spreading. It was a very obvious attempt to change the subject, and the MSM was relieved to have a way to Both Sides a pedophile ring connected to Trump.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @EthylEster:
    At least Cole spells it correctly. If you are going to swear, do it right.

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    RepubAnon says:

    @debit: No, I wish Alex Jones a very long life – in Leavenworth, without parole.

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    Barbara says:

    @J R in WV: Totes cool. That is just your opinion, which does not convey any false information.

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    George says:

    True story that reveals the lunacy of some people: A person with whom I am well acquainted claims that Alex Jones actually is not-at-all-dead comedian Bill Hicks. If that is the case, I’ll bet Hicks wishes he and not faked his own death and become a full-on nut and demigod to the conspiracy crowd.

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    Barbara says:

    @Mnemosyne: You IT types have way too much confidence in the rest of us. If they were using a commercial e-discovery company, that outfit would screen for all kinds of stuff, so they must not have been doing that.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @RepubAnon: And in abject terror, every day of it.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Barbara: were his lawyers trying to do discovery on the cheap?

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: aren’t you the resident e-discovery guru? What say you?

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @lamh36: And not necessarily shocking when you consider all the times that Jones has accused his political opponents of engaging in child pornographers. As usual, Conservatives are good at projection if they’re good at anything at all.

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    Barbara says:

    @Steve in the ATL: I don’t know but it wouldn’t surprise me. I think he is experiencing financial duress. Don’t everybody race to donate.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Amir Khalid: Ditto. Nothing would surprise me about these angry, bullying, screeching Rightwingers. I’m just surprised when they face justice.

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    matt says:

    His lawyers have an involved story about the kiddie porn having been sent in emails along with extortion demands.

    since it’s Alex Jones we’re talking about, there’s a 100% chance that is bullshit.

    Looking forward to future developments.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Steve in the ATL: We would certainly screen for that sort of thing in the metadata, and do the the requisite reporting. As would, I believe, any outside service a client would use (some do) and have us do 2nd level after.

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    Barbara says:

    @George: I read the article linked a few days ago about the guy who claims to be the head of a militia who is arresting people at the border. In addition to claiming falsely that he served in Viet Nam (when in reality he stole his GF’s car and went AWOL) he has claimed to be the son of a country music singer (now deceased) for decades. The singer’s real wife has sued him to stop several times. I mean, the level of fraud and grifting is hard for me to fathom and I am predisposed to hate these people.

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    Spanky says:

    Aside from the kiddie porn …

    One million dollars to put your head on a pike.” Jones then pounds a photograph of Mattei and goes into a rant at one point stating, “I’m gonna kill…”

    IANL (I ain’t no lawyer), but if’n I recall correctly, that thar is felony material, no?

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    Raven says:

    @Barbara: Lee Greenwood huh?

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    J R in WV says:

    @Barbara:

    Totes cool. That is just your opinion, which does not convey any false information.

    OK, thought so, glad to have confirmation!!!!

    My opinion of Trump is so low nothing can slid by underneath of it, no matter what goes wrong with the plan it can’t F up the plan.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Get your kicks.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Ohio Mom:

    Thanks so much. Missed that. Hope all is serene.

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    Brachiator says:

    I never paid much attention to Alex Jones. In the past, people like him would rarely escape from a certain level of the gutter. And sometimes people like him would have an “accident” if they caused too much trouble. Or they would do something incredibly foolish and doom themselves.

    But today, the scum seems to rise to the top and become president. The scum, and Jones will inevitably sink again, but it is going to be messy.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Brachiator:

    In the past, people like him would rarely escape from a certain level of the gutter.

    Yeah, but in this day when assholes like Chuck Todd, etc live for the horserace…

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    Nothing but the truth.

    https://twitter.com/KaliHecate/status/1140701720743469056

    This cannot be said enough.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Patricia Kayden: what does it say? It’s helpful to post the text of the tweet here. Many of us don’t give clicks to Twitter.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Kali Hecate™ @ KaliHecate
    All the conservative white men defending the little racist twerp that got his Harvard acceptance rescinded & saying,” But he was just a kid.” Are the same men that think twelve-year-old Black children are ”adults” when they get gunned down by the cops. They can get bent.
    12:24 PM – 17 Jun 2019

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ah. That sentiment gets posted a lot and it is indeed nothing but truth.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Yup. Young Black boys can be sent to prison FOR LIFE for things they did when they were under 18, including things they were falsely accused of or coerced into confessing to, but white men in their 40s are “young and foolish” and shouldn’t have their lives ruined. 🤬🙄

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    chopper says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    All the conservative white men defending the little racist twerp that got his Harvard acceptance rescinded & saying,” But he was just a kid.” Are the same men that think twelve-year-old Black children are ”adults” when they get gunned down by the cops.

    QFT.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @lamh36: nothing to see here, just top officials of the Justice Dept reminding the key witness in the case against the President that the President has his back

    The former Justice Department officials and current state prosecutors, who regularly handled the transfer of federal inmates to state custody, said they were surprised that the second-highest official in the Justice Department would take an interest in the case. The decision is usually made by the warden at the prison where the inmate is being held.
    Justice Department officials were unable to say who made the decision in Mr. Manafort’s case; the Bureau of Prisons, which is part of the Justice Department, did not respond to a request for comment.
    Todd Blanche, a lawyer for Mr. Manafort, acknowledged that the involvement of the deputy attorney general and the decision not to hold his client on Rikers was atypical

    (I don’t hate Joe Biden, a part of me looks at those (early, early) polls and thinks we oughta just go with him, but that clip of him leaning over Joy Reid and lecturing her about How Things Really Are is just….. ugh. Can no one sit down with him and explain to him how badly that body language and tone come across, and I’m an old white man.)

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    Barbara says:

    @Raven: Johnny Horton. Guy even produced a youtube that purported to show him singing with his “dad.”

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    plato says:

    @lamh36:

    When you have low life friends in high places …

    The whole system is rotten to the core.

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    chris says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Calling this highly unusual doesn’t even begin to capture how strange it is for the no. 2 official at DOJ to intervene in a state custody issue. https://t.co/oX8gXwPVs4— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) 17 June 2019

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    chris says:

    Damn! I gotta learn to tpye!

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    chris says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Calling this highly unusual doesn’t even begin to capture how strange it is for the no. 2 official at DOJ to intervene in a state custody issue. https://t.co/oX8gXwPVs4— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) 17 June 2019

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    Shakti says:

    Conspiracy theorist and InfoWars host Alex Jones sent child pornography to the lawyers for the families of the Sandy Hook tragedy, their lawyers said.

    I did not know this yet I am not surprised, somehow.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @germy:

    Conservative Democrats are just as corruptible as Republicans.

    Evidence?

    @Anonymous At Work: Libel and slander are forms of defamation.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Elie Honig @ eliehonig
    It is very unusual – perhaps entirely unprecedented – for such a high-ranking DOJ official to be involved in the specific prison designation for a particular inmate. Anyone else in this situation goes to Rikers and that’s that.

    Rick Wilson @ TheRickWilson
    Bill Barr is going to be a name that goes down in utter infamy

    I imagine Congressional letters of inquiry are already being sent. I think they ought to get Rosen to testify.

    Then I remember that more people know, and care, why names from that TV dating show are trending on twitter than would see that hearing.

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    CliosFanBoy says:

    Porn Spam I can believe. But CHILD porn spam>? Who would send spam that was THAT illegal and also would only appeal to a very small audience (percentage wise)? Wouldn’t the odds be good that you’d end up sending it to a cop or some law enforcement type instead of a would-be buyer? (not that cops, etc, can’t be buyers here)

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: And Denial is just a mountain in Dyslaska.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Barbara:

    Johnny Horton. Guy even produced a youtube that purported to show him singing with his “dad.”

    Johnny “North to Alaska” Horton? Lord, haven’t given him a thought in many decades!

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Um, ain’t no anthracite in Manchin Land. IIRC West By Dog Virginia has been strictly bituminous since the Jurassisgrassic.

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    NotMax says:

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Can’t help but associate him with The Battle of New Orleans.

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    Melusine says:

    @Kenneth Fair: Is child pornography something that just generally goes out through random spam? It’s not like regular porn. It’s a felony to possess it and another to send it, so randomly spamming people with it greatly increases the chances of somebody connected with it going to jail.

    How many people on this thread have gotten kiddie porn spam? Boner pills, yes – sexualized images of children, no.

    And why didn’t whoever received the “spam” at InfoWars (who totally wasn’t Alex Jones) report the images to the FBI? Hell, Jones could have woven it into his pizzagate narrative. The pizza pedos were trying to take him down, but he foiled their evil plan!!

    I suspect there’s more to the story…

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    Mandalay says:

    @Kenneth Fair:

    I’m not defending Jones, but if he truly knew nothing about the kiddieporn emails initially, and that seems to be the case, then it is at least understandable why he recklessly lashed out at the lawyers.

    He has since withdrawn the accusation, though I suspect that by then he knew exactly what had happened but chose to play dumb rather than explain the situation:

    The day after the show was broadcast, Jones apologized for cursing and backtracked from his accusations suggesting that the images had been planted.

    I’m not saying that the lawyers for Sandy Hook families set this up or did this,” Jones said. “Whoever sent this, for whatever reason, this shows the escalation and the insanity of all of this.”

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    Mandalay says:

    @Melusine:

    Boner pills, yes – sexualized images of children, no.

    You get get boner pill spam because it’s completely legal, and there’s money to be made. You don’t get images of children because it’s a serious crime to send them, and there’s no money to be made.

    I’m guessing that it was a highly competent hacker with an agenda against RWNJs who sent the images of children that ended up in Jones’s email account. Without supporting that specific approach, I’m all in favor of going after Jones using dirty tricks.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Yes, true, but “anthracite” fits the cadence better, and I’m all about the cadence.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @NotMax:

    Yes, same guy.

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    NotMax says:

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Scansion art naught to be sneezed at.

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    Eli says:

    @Barbara: That’s the first thing this made me think of, because my wife used to work in e-discovery, and I had gotten the impression that no one who had ever been anywhere near a lawsuit before would even dream of just blindly dumping all their files into a bucket and handing it to opposing counsel unless they were a total fucking idiot. It doesn’t matter if you’re sure there’s no porn in there – why would you do that? All I could imagine was that they thought a massive quantity of unindexed data would waste a lot of the plantiffs’ time, i.e. Jones placed a higher value on being a dick than on basic self-preservation.

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    Melusine says:

    @Mandalay: A hacker who assumed they’d be stupid enough to data dump all Jones’s info to opposing counsel and that no one would find it and turn it over to law enforcement first?

    For my own personal opinion, I’m going with Occam’s Razor/RWNJ projection until there’s evidence he was set up.

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    EthylEster says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Jurassisgrassic

    .

    I’m trying to decide how I can work this into a conversation. Very drole.

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