Flop Sweat (Open Thread)

They should have given it a different name. Who the fuck would watch an interview called “President Trump: 30 Hours”? Just reading those words makes me want to reverse-engineer a shop-vac so I can shotgun a quart of bourbon. [Oliver Willis at ShareBlue]

Americans would rather watch ‘Family Feud’ than Trump’s unhinged interview

ABC’s primetime special featuring Trump was a ratings flop.

“President Donald Trump’s much-teased interview with ABC was not the ratings bonanza the numbers-obsessed president likely would have wanted,” Politico noted on Monday.

The program, which featured ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos following Trump for 30 hours, came in third place during it’s time slot on Sunday night, behind the U.S. Open on Fox and “60 Minutes” on CBS…

Trump’s special attracted 3.91 million viewers, far below the 6 million viewers ABC attracted in the same time slot a week ago with “Celebrity Family Feud,” hosted by comedian Steve Harvey.

A friend once produced a local news show that got lower ratings on Christmas than the public access version of the Yule log (a program featuring a single camera on a log in a fireplace with Christmas music playing in the background). This is worse.

Maybe Trump could try the kitty cat filter. (H/T: valued commenter Trollhattan.)

Open thread!

149 replies
  1. 1

    Trump knows who to blame, and it’s not him. George was being a little wise guy.

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    Yutsano says:


    Other than that I got nothin’.

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    germy says:

    McConnell calls granting statehood to D.C. and Puerto Rico, “full bore socialism.” pic.twitter.com/LXi71EMtDV— Resistbot (@resistbot) June 17, 2019

    He needs to be voted out of office.

  4. 4
    debbie says:

    I didn’t know it was on, but wouldn’t have watched anyway. How George stuck it out for 30 hours is beyond me.

  5. 5
    TenguPhule says:


    He needs to be voted out of office.

    Forget it Jake, its Kentucky.

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    Yutsano says:

    @germy: Someone needs to get his definition of socialism. It’s not just “what liberals want” on a loop.

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    germy says:

    My favorite part was when he interrupted the proceedings because someone coughed. And then he kept complaining about the coughing later in the interview.

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    Yutsano says:

    @TenguPhule: I’m all good with the myocardial infarction too.

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    TenguPhule says:


    Someone needs to get his definition of socialism

    Whatever Democrats want, updated daily.

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    germy says:

    @Yutsano: Socialism is clearly anything that might possibly threaten his power.

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    gene108 says:

    Is there anything Trump will say in an interview that at some point he hasn’t blurted out on Twitter or at some sort of press gathering, when he’s about to board a helicopter or limo?

    His act has become stale.

    We need a new President to freshen up the country.

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    Brachiator says:

    Trump’s special attracted 3.91 million viewers, far below the 6 million viewers ABC attracted in the same time slot a week ago with “Celebrity Family Feud,” hosted by comedian Steve Harvey.

    Oh, hell. Don’t give Trump any ideas. Imagine Celebrity Family Feud with Trump, Donald Jr, Eric, Ivanka and Melania on one team. Going up against the McCains.

    So glad to hear his special bombed. I didn’t even know when it was scheduled.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Yutsano: I was thinking of tripping him at a pig farm, but that works too.

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    jl says:

    I was thinking that a celebrity Family Feud episode with the Trumps in it would be fun. But from this news, I guess Family Feud will never go for it. Would hurt their ratings.

    @Brachiator: You beat me to that both hilarious and disgusting idea.

    Edit: Trump and Pence families might be a bigger hoot, though. But OTOH, Meghan holding off the entire Trump family while complaining how unfair it all was might be fun too.

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    germy says:

    @Brachiator: Going up against the Clintons.

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    TenguPhule says:


    Imagine Celebrity Family Feud with Trump, Donald Jr, Eric, Ivanka and Melania on one team. Going up against the McCains.

    Is there a timed demolitions charge set on both buzzers?

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    tokyokie says:

    I think the pig filter would be more appropriate for der Trumpenführer.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @TenguPhule: If the local Democrats are crafty, they’re secretly funding a camo-wearing crackpot to run against McConnell on an anti-establishment platform in the primary, then go third party in the general. It’s worth a shot!

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    This is the greatest fucking thing I’ve ever seen.

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    misterpuff says:

    If they used the cat filter, Drumpf would have to grab himself

    …..with his tiny paws.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    It’s worth a shot!

    The really sad thing, that’s true.

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    gene108 says:


    Democrats need to somehow flood the media, with how corrupt “cocaine” Mitch is, along with his wife.

    The only way to get a state, with predominantly Republican voters, to vote for a Democrat, is for the Republican candidate to be embroiled in some sort of scandal.

    Gingrich ginning up petty scandals of powerful Democrats – I think abuse of postal privileges was one – helped flip the House. McConnell’s a helluva lot more corrupt than that.

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    jl says:

    @TenguPhule: I dunno, Cracker’s idea sounds like full bore 100 percent SOCIALISM!!!! to me.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @gene108: That’s why I’m pretty sure we’ll win in 2020. Not because we (as a country) are better than Trump. Not because our candidate — whoever it is — will be smarter and have better plans, though she most definitely will. We’ll win because people are sick of the bloated bag of cat shit and will want to change the damned channel already.

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    AnotherBruce says:

    I think that Mitch just came up with the scary word “socialism” instead of acknowledging the scary brown people that live in DC and Puerto Rico.

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    Cacti says:

    Didn’t SNL do a spoof Celebrity Family Feud with the Trumps that went something like:

    Don, Jr.: “I’m Don, Jr., da brains.”

    Ivanka: “I’m Ivanka, the beauty.”

    Eric: “I’m Eric.”

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    PPCLI says:

    @germy: The founding fathers had a word for “taxation without representation”, and it wasn’t “socialism”.

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    @Cacti: Yeah. As I recall, the fourth member of their team was a shirtless Putin.

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    MJS says:

    Hey, no shame in losing to the Yule log. That show was awesome!

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    Martin says:

    @AnotherBruce: White supremacists have been calling race integration ‘socialism’ or ‘communism’ since the 50s – the redistribution of social capital. Mitch is just keeping the ‘Obama is the antichrist’ playbook going a bit longer.

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    Martin says:

    OT, I like this French team, but they really need to get some fucking practice at shots on goal.

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    Baud says:


    Socialism=Brown people.

    ETA: @AnotherBruce got there first.

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    trollhattan says:

    Yup, not a good attempt at all. But a do-over from keeper screwup and Nigeria now go with ten the rest of the way. Weird game.

    ETA, and there’s the match.

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    Martin says:

    @trollhattan: Not just the penalty kick, but the whole game. They’re making opportunities and then just can’t get a decent shot off.

    (Feels really awkward for them to refer to the team composition as ‘ten men’)

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    trollhattan says:

    Nigeria doing a lot better against France than Korea did, who were barely a speedbump but today they’re testing Norway for everything they’re worth.

    Predicting soccer outcomes is a fool’s pursuit.

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    BR says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    I would like to agree with you, but for this, which is something I think needs to be heeded:

    I think Democrats are vastly underestimating the ways a corrupt and lawless president can use the powers of the presidency itself to cheat in an election.— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 14, 2019

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    hells littlest angel says:

    I’m waiting for it to come out on DVD. Rumor has it the gag reel will actually make you gag.

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    Searcher says:

    On the topic of difficult interviews, I learned today that it was apparently extremely difficult to interview Mister Rogers … because he was too nice, and would spend most of the interview asking about you, displaying his trademark genuine, non-judgmental interest in you.

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    NotMax says:

    reverse-engineer a shop-vac so I can shotgun a quart of bourbon

    At one time a group of use sharing digs had free access to one of those soda fountain bubblers and decided to fill it with bourbon and water.

    After running long enough, the drinkies became carbonated.

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    chris says:

    @Betty Cracker: Those ~100,000,000 people who didn’t vote last time? A lot of… well, some of them have got to be watching in horror. Here’s hoping they turn out in droves.

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    Mike in NC says:

    ABC’s primetime special featuring Trump was a ratings flop.

    This will drive him apeshit because that reality TV game show host and stone cold loser is obsessed with ratings.

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    debbie says:

    I know it’s Photoshop, but…

    "I saw it in the window and I just couldn't resist it"Who wore it better? pic.twitter.com/QqtobHig30— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) June 17, 2019

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    Josie says:


    This is my great fear. I think there will be no holds barred.

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    debbie says:


    More like Manifest Destiny!

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @BR: Trust me when I tell you I am not in the least bit complacent. I was 100% wrong last time, and I could be this time too, and the thought that the prick could cheat his way to reelection haunts my dreams. My sense is enough people are sick of the buffoon to kick his ass to the curb, but I’m definitely not taking it for granted!

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    jc says:

    Assuming Trump’s poll numbers continue to slide over the next year, it will be interesting to see what insane acts he’ll stoop to in order to dominate the headlines. I don’t think there are any outrageous, traitorous criminal acts that are off the table.

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    geg6 says:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He lost to Steve fucking Harvey?!?!?!?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The black guy beat him. Gotta be killing him.

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    geg6 says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    My attitude exactly.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @debbie: Ha! What an incredibly hideous dress! Looks like she’s wearing a coffin liner!

    My favorite sight gag along those lines are photos of Obama and Trump in white tie at Buckingham Palace with the caption: “What it looks like online vs. what it looks like on you” or something like that.

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    trollhattan says:

    The rear admiral just jettisoned from the the Naval War College kept a margarita dispenser in his office. Fajita Fridays were the best!

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    cckids says:


    I was thinking that a celebrity Family Feud episode with the Trumps in it would be fun.

    Trumps vs Obamas. They’d have to stop the show because of the mercy rule.

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    Hoodie says:

    No doubt 30 hours with Trump would be just about anyone’s version of hell, but he did make one slip regarding receiving stolen property. His initial response to Stephanopous was “I guess you would do both.” That’s actually an ok answer, i.e., you can keep the “oppo research” but let the FBI know that Russians seem to be trying to recruit you. It begs the question, why the fuck didn’t you do that? The problem is that Trump didn’t call the FBI because he would reasonably believe that the info the Russians were offering was fabricated or distorted, i.e., not true. Telling the FBI would risk them coming back and saying the info is fabricated. The disgusting thing is not just that Trump would peddle info gained from Russians, but he would willingly peddle what he suspected was Russian misinformation. George dropped the ball on that. Trump quickly recognized his mistake and tried to redirect to keep those questions from coming up.

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    debbie says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    I saw that! I can’t believe his fashion maven of a daughter didn’t insist the tux get alterations.

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    NotMax says:

    following Trump for 30 hours

    Presumably George S. required a 40 hour shower afterwards. //

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    James E Powell says:


    That’s why I think impeachment investigations are necessary. Trump & the Republicans need to be playing defense for the next year and a half.


    Interesting = bad, very bad.

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    BR says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    Makes sense. I think the key will be to target paper-ballot-using swing states that are “tipping point states” (that when individually combined with safe states produce 270+ EC votes). That way there’s at least one state where the vote can’t be rigged. Looking at the Verified Voting map, it looks bad:


    Looks like the main target states need to be Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Iowa, Arizona, and North Carolina. Pennsylvania is a big risk because most of it seems to be without a paper trail. But it also seems to have swung hard back to Dems according to the polling so with enough effort it will be hard to cheat there. That plus any of the other 4 would yield 270.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @Mike in NC: Trump won’t be bothered by this at all. He’ll just blame it on “failing ABC” and their inability to sufficiently suck up to him.

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    Aleta says:

    @debbie: I just don’t understand their clothes.

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    James E Powell says:

    I’d like to see ABC put together an interview show – call it The Liberals – featuring Barack & Michelle Obama, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Run it in the same time slot.

    I double dog dare them to do it.

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    debbie says:


    I’d worry about you if you did.

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    NotMax says:


    Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover Mr. Blackwell again


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    C Stars says:

    I’m seeing a lot of stories about Trump coughing during the interview, etc etc, but this caught my eye at the bottom of CNN’s front page:

    Supreme Court hands Democrats a win in Virginia racial gerrymander case

    This is good news, right? I have been steeling myself for the SC to hand every election ever in the future of the country over to the GOP, so I suppose it came as a nice surprise. Although the census question will still be a shitshow…

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    Immanentize says:


    no holds barred

    Or worse, no Barrs held.

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    The Dangerman says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    We’ll win because people are sick of the bloated bag of cat shit and will want to change the damned channel already.

    Trump’s “look at me be a dick” tactics have been worn out; short of a war or him divorcing Melania for a porn star, no one cares about him enough to care about him. His sell by date is done.

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    lamh36 says:


    BREAKING: Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones sent an archive of emails to the Sandy Hook lawyers, including emails sent to him that contained child porn. The lawyers have contacted the FBI. https://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Lawyers-Alex-Jones-sent-child-porn-to-Sandy-Hook-14005437.php


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    Immanentize says:

    @C Stars: It’s an odd narrow win on the procedure of the case, but a win it is!

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    Yutsano says:

    @Immanentize: I still want to figure out how to burn that guy. He’s just gotta go.

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    Kathleen says:

    @debbie: I see it as George’s karmic reward. May he have many more “interviews” with poor ratings..

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    Immanentize says:

    In the world of really OT — does anyone have an Away suitcase? I need a new one and I heard from a friend they are good. But Jim is not the best reporter….

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @Immanentize: If they had to actually engage on the merits of the case they’d have to provide additional anti-gerrymandering precedents – the evidence in this case was particularly bad.

    This was, they give up a few seats on NC but don’t have to actually address gerrymandering at all.

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    randy khan says:


    Imagine Celebrity Family Feud with Trump, Donald Jr, Eric, Ivanka and Melania on one team. Going up against the McCains.

    I’d watch that. Or the Clintons, who’d undoubtedly clean their clocks.

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    rikyrah says:

    GirlPowerDon’tQuit (@growing0up0girl) Tweeted:
    The media REALLY does not want a PoC in the running for the Dem nomination, do they? This isn’t just weird, this is a grotesque admission by the media of the white supremacist ideology that drives them. https://t.co/HY8ZWDbiJ1 https://twitter.com/growing0up0girl/status/1140390103564636160?s=17

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    debbie says:


    “But it’s just a character.”

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    lamh36 says:

    Follow Follow @NBCNews
    Parkland survivor Kyle Kashuv says Harvard rescinded offer over “offensive” comments, according to a copy of letter that Kashuv posted on Twitter.

    Follow Follow @NYCNavid
    If I was President Obama, I would call Harvard to resolve @KyleKashuv’s admission. Such an act of kindness would embolden Obama’s image as a moral leader and a peace maker. cc: @davidaxelrod

    Dafuq he shoud…

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    Immanentize says:

    I agree. Completely.

    I am working with people closer to that world, but I gotta tell you, everyone is just holding onto their own privates working as hard as possible not to let things get worse. There doesn’t seem to be any real organization around such an effort. Maybe there is, but it is very much on the down low.

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    debbie says:


    Just listened to this yesterday. Who knew luggage could be a cult?

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    rikyrah says:

    Where is the lie??

    Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) Tweeted:
    Don’t worry about Kyle Kashuv. The Harvard decision to rescind his acceptance based on his racist comments has made him a martyr and perpetual victim for the right wing movement. His career is made. He is set for life as a commentator & maybe even a future Republican Congressman. https://twitter.com/WajahatAli/status/1140676963323002881?s=17

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @lamh36: Didn’t Kashuv also post a map of his school so people could know where to ‘kill the jews’? Haven’t seen that reported on outside of social media so maybe it’s wrong.

    Still, the idea that this kind definitely deserves a spot at Harvard is white privilege on its own. There are TONS of equally qualified people out there, Harvard can pick one that didn’t post a bunch of really racist shit online.

    And yes, I’m sympathetic to the idea that teenagers don’t get punished forever for things they did. I said a lot of stupid stuff myself. But maybe don’t do it in a public space or think that you’re definitely entitled to a spot at one of the top colleges in the country. He hasn’t even apologized yet, IIRC – just acknowledged that he said it.

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    Immanentize says:


    the evidence in this case was particularly bad.

    This is the key — also, they are starting a process of winnowing who might bring a case in the future. Standing is a Stern Taskmaster. And if they ever did settle on a partisan gerrymander standard, effort number one would be to limit the number of challenges.

    Supreme Court Justices are complex folks. For all of Thomas’ nutty and harmful ideas, including his opposition to affirmative action (of which he is the undisputed beneficiary) — he really hates an overt race-based voting rights violation.

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    lamh36 says:

    Following Following @WhipClyburn
    Today marks the 4th anniversary of the devastating tragedy that was the Emanuel AME Church shooting.

    While we offer our thoughts and prayers to the families and victims of that day, we also ought to be taking action.

    The House has acted. It’s the Senate’s turn.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @Mike in NC:

    This will drive him apeshit because that reality TV game show host and stone cold loser is obsessed with ratings.

    It should, the Olds who would be watching TV at 7:00pm are his base and if they can’t be bothered that is a bad sign for him in 2020/

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    Immanentize says:

    @rikyrah: I love one of the replies:
    “That sounds about white.”

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    Immanentize says:

    @debbie: People who sell luggage apparently.

    Their idea is a good one — better luggage cheaper. I have a Samsonite breaking down. To replace it costs the same as an Away without battery

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    Immanentize says:

    @rikyrah: @MisterForkbeard:
    His tweets/texts were off the fucking rails. Not only did he text the “n” word repeatedly, in caps, Harvard could have cut him for his offensive misogyny alone. It wasn’t free speech, it was violent white guy speech. Kav and Squee talk.

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    Luciamia says:

    Well, Betty, to be fair. Who can compete with the Yule Log?n

    Anyways, who’s Trump gonna fire over these numbers?

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    Could Steve Beshear give McConnell a run for his money? I know that Phil Bredesen didn’t work out against nutter Marsha Blackburn in neighboring Tennessee but it was a solid idea…

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    lamh36 says:

    Sigh…please tell me Mayor Pete pushed back strongly…the notion that Black folk are too homophobic to vote for a gay candidate in not supported by any measure.

    Besides which…Black folk do have an LGTBQ community. It’s a streotype that too many folks state as fact to damn much.

    Follow Follow @Mediaite
    Chuck Todd Spends Three Minutes Asking Mayor Pete if African-Americans May Be Too Homophobic to Vote For Him

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    Steeplejack says:


    Celebrity Family Feud with Trumps vs. Kardashians would be the apex of American pop culture in this accursed timeline.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    I just watched part of a Face the Nation interview with Buttigieg in which the interviewer kept trying to goad him into saying bad things about Biden, Sanders, Harris, and he would not take the bait. I really admire his refusal to let people put words in his mouth. So I’d wait to see his response before getting too upset. The interviewers are just horrible.

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    SFAW says:


    I’m all good with the myocardial infarction too.

    Or a 16-ton weight falling on him. Or a pointed stick. Or the earth selectively opening up and swallowing him. Or Shitgibbon dropped on him from 20 stories up. Or his head a-sploding. Or “Doctor” Rand Paul performing eye surgery on him with a pointed stick [“Forget the bleedin’ pointed stick!”] and a hammer. Or Thanos snapping his fingers VERY selectively.

    and so on.

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    That’s 50% in favor of impeachment, 48% against.

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    lamh36 says:

    @zhena gogolia: from the article on air, he avoided the incorrect assertion about AA being too homophobic to vote for him but talked about outreach and such.

    I’d like for him to have pushed back at the notion. AA are no more homophobic than any other minority group…for Todd to say that homphobia is the reason for AA not being into Pete is bullshit stereotyping and I just wish Pete had pushed back directly on THAT assertion.

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    Redshift says:


    I saw that! I can’t believe his fashion maven of a daughter didn’t insist the tux get alterations

    I don’t think anyone who’s remained in his good grades for that long “insists” he do anything. Here’s surrounded himself with yes-men his entire life. If be willing to bet Jared & Ivanka’s main job as “advisors” is to agree with everything he says and tell him he’s brilliant, and when he inevitably face-plants, agree about whoever he decides is to blame.

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    NotMax says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques
    FYI, re: the ‘non-olds.’

    George Stephanopoulos’s exclusive interview with Donald Trump still tied as the night’s #1 non-sports program in adults 18-49… Source

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @lamh36: As long as I live, I’ll never forget President Obama singing “Amazing Grace” at that service. It was the most moving and, well, graceful thing I’ve ever seen a politician do.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    7% Yes, impeach him but don’t remove him from office

    So 7% of the public are complete morons?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Dawg dammit, flood warnings all over the dawg damned place and I can’t get hold of my wife to tell her, “Come straight home, you can take your daughter the eggs tomorrow.” while it rains at a rate of 5 inches per hour.

    Technologically is way over rated.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Betty Cracker: it’s gotta be ingrained in anyone mind I think. You can tell it wasn’t planned just heartfelt!

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    lamh36 says:

    Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg cancels campaign stop in New York as he deals with aftermath of fatal police shooting in South Bend, Indiana, where he is mayor.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @The Dangerman:

    short of a war

    Well now there’s the problem in a nut’s shell.

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    TenguPhule says:


    Celebrity Family Feud with Trumps vs. Kardashians

    No Survivor.

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    germy says:

    One thing I noticed watching the ABC trump interview: He doesn’t wear seatbelts.

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    Sure Lurkalot says:

    @FlipYrWhig: Beshear created one of the finest ACA exchanges, brought access to many who truly needed health care and the good folk of Kentucky voted for a guy who took it all away. I’ve never been to Kentucky and I know no one there but I can only assume despite McConnell’s unpopularity, he will likely be re-elected.

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    sdhays says:

    Rhetorical Question of the last 2 years: How is it freaking possible that a man such as the ASSet is constantly stressing himself with rage over this and that and he still hasn’t stroked out?

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    germy says:

    @sdhays: Good genes. The best genes.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Still no fucking answer.

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    @rikyrah: I find Mayor Pete and his BeltBois fanclub exhausting
    @germy: He doesn’t need to, he has built-in front and side airbags.

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    randy khan says:


    Well, Betty, to be fair. Who can compete with the Yule Log?

    Back many years ago, there was a kerfuffle over whether a cable company ought to be able to include a channel that consisted entirely of a camera focused on the fish tank in its office when calculating what it was allowed to charge. (Basically, there was a formula for maximum rates that counted only channels that were activated and had programming, and the argument was that the fish tank channel wasn’t really programming.) It turned out that people really did watch the channel, and it had more viewers than a lot of the other channels on the system.

    And I think the original Yule Log program that ran in New York City on Christmas Day got pretty good ratings.

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    randy khan says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Another poll I saw today was at 27%, up from 20%. There seems to be a lot of variability on this, which is kind of odd.

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    SFAW says:


    Still no fucking answer.

    Keeping my fingers crossed. I hope everyone is OK.

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    debbie says:


    Can you call your daughter and tell her her mother should stay with her instead of trying to come back?

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    sdhays says:

    @schrodingers_cat: I also find it tedious. I find it absurd that we’re taking the Mayor of South Bend as a serious candidate for President. Sure, he’s an impressive guy, but running a small city doesn’t prepare you to be President of the United States. There are so many other people who are better qualified running that I just can’t wrap my mind around how this guy is the one getting all this attention.

    Oh wait, that’s right. Our media is filled with bored, vapid morons who prize novelty over all else. Now I get it. (Not saying people who like the Mayor are automatically morons, just the people in the media who are obviously boosting him so they don’t have to discuss the highly qualified ladies running serious campaigns).

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    @randy khan: The one I posted is from Fox, so who knows.

    How the questions are phrased can make a big difference, particularly in a fluid situation that the public doesn’t understand well.

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    SFAW says:


    So 7% of the public are complete morons?

    Quintuple that, maybe more. Whatever the “registered Republican” number is, basically.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @randy khan: I remember the NYC Yule Log. When you live in a thirteen story apartment building, it’s the closest you can get to having a fireplace. But it wasn’t very convincing in black and white.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debbie: Good idea, but I suspect the problem is at my end. I’ll try.

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    cynthia ackerman says:

    Lots of interpretations of dipshit.

    Many give him too much credit for complex thought. Having watched him up close and otherwise for going on fifty years, my firm conviction is that he’s total id. “I am dominant, period. Nothing else matters. Not even Ivanka’s tail.”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debbie: Everything is fucking down. Either that or I no longer know how to dial a fuckin phone number.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Betty Cracker: All he’s ever had was his shock and entertainment value and that’s old stuff now. Still, I’m waiting for him to announce that he got the best ratings EVER.

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    debbie says:


    I’m sure she’ll have sense to stay put.

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    jl says:

    @Gelfling 545: Family Feud doesn’t exist! It’s the real fake news.

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    NotMax says:

    @Ohio Mom

    But then, there was Instant Color TV. Kind’a blue for sky, sort’a green for grass, roughly red for people – what could be more natural?


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    Immanentize says:

    I see a smarty pants phone in your near future. Because of love.

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    Immanentize says:

    @randy khan: WPIX.
    Must watch (ok, listen) TV every Dec 24 in my house

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    geg6 says:


    We just our primary here and this election is going to be the last one with electronic machines. Paper ballots, FTW!

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    J R in WV says:


    does anyone have an Away suitcase?

    Nope, and that brand name is not included in the CR reviews of luggage.

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    Immanentize says:

    @J R in WV:

    CR reviews of luggage.

    In West Virginia.😘

    I really don’t care what I get, but I only got a month….

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    Immanentize says:

    OMG! I completely forgot that guy. Sort of an authoritarian Mister Rogers. Damn. My home town had a version too — Officer Bill. But he was not a real officer. He was just copying WPIX.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    As long as I live, I’ll never forget President Obama singing “Amazing Grace” at that service. It was the most moving and, well, graceful thing I’ve ever seen a politician do.

    Quoted for Truth!!! An amazing moment, brought tear to my eyes, I’m not even religious, but so moving!!

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    NotMax says:


    No complaints with the Skyline brand luggage* picked up on sale at Target. But then I make use of them only annually.

    *Am not a fan of hard shell luggage, YMMV.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax: TY

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    J R in WV says:


    Everything is fucking down. Either that or I no longer know how to dial a fuckin phone number.

    Flooding will do that. Once those local switch bujildings are underwater, everyone connected through that switch is out of luck as far as a phone call.

    Since you have an internet connection, maybe email the daughter to tell her to stay there?

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    HinTN says:

    To quote Mr Natural, “Haw, haw, haw.”

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    Captain C says:

    @TenguPhule: The common clay of the New West.

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    jk says:


    the people in the media who are obviously boosting him so they don’t have to discuss the highly qualified ladies running serious campaigns

    I agree with you on this point.

    Klobuchar and Gillibrand have gotten totally screwed in terms of media coverage and are clearly more qualified than Mayor Pete. However, If I had to choose between Biden and Mayor Pete, I’d take Mayor Pete in a heartbeat. Biden is an out of touch, uninspiring dope with no gravitas.

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    Vhh says:

    @jc: Doesn’t look like the Trumpkin Gulf Gambit is gonna allow Mango Mussolini to get AG the dog.

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    JoeyJoeJoe says:

    @AnotherBruce: I wonder if McConnell knows that Puerto Rico elected a Republican to the House in the last resident commissioner election

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    Steve in the ATL says:


    Am not a fan of hard shell luggage

    This is the correct attitude.

    /frequent traveler

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    CatFacts says:

    Most of you probably know this, but for anyone considering smart luggage, check to make sure the battery is easily removable. Several airlines won’t take them if the battery can’t be removed.

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    Lapassionara says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I’m sure she is fine, but please let us know when you have contact.

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    jonas says:

    @gene108: This doesn’t work as well for Democrats because we don’t have a national cable network dedicated to projecting leftwing propaganda 24/7, amplified by hundreds of left-wing AM talk radio hosts, and then given legitimacy by a bunch of craven MSM editors looking to provide “balance” and “not offend” the Left by “asking questions” that tacitly affirm leftwing talking points.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @jk: Please show us on the doll where Biden touched you.

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    jk says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Biden slobbers over Republicans (Dick Cheney is a swell guy, Fred Upton, a Trump stooge, is a a great guy) and thinks he can charm them through the power of his personality. Biden is a dumbass who’d be a disaster as a nominee.

    Go fuck yourself.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: Um, no, actually it’s 55% against removing him from office.

    My guess is that the 7% who want him “impeached but not removed” is mostly GOP kneejerks who figure that could be successfully spun as “exoneration” & get Cheetoh Benito another term. Be careful what you wish for…

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @jk: It sounds as though you might need a nap.

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    dww44 says:

    @sdhays: My husband really likes Mayor Pete and he’s not an easily persuadable guy. I don’t question Buddigieg’s training (or anyone else’s for that matter) not since the country elected Donald Trump. Mayo Pete has the brains and the ability. Let’s see how far he makes it.
    r@Uncle Cosmo: Polls matter until they don’t. I’m with Warren on this one (and she was first out of the gate with this) it’s not about anything other than protecting the government, the Constitution, our Democracy. Start the impeachment proceedings now.

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    Ilefttxwhenannlost says:

    The most disturbing answer is that also is just an act/con

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