WWC: US vs Chile

Open thread to discuss the fútbol!

64 replies
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    Baud says:

    GO USA!

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    lahke says:

    I’m going to Chile in two weeks for the solar eclipse, so can we try for a tie? I don’t want to mess with the sun god now.

  3. 3
    Baud says:


    Is that this year? I thought the eclipse there was several years out. I was thinking of going.

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    Baud says:


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    HinTN says:

    @lahke: I would dearly love to see the Atacama and a solar eclipse would be the icing on the cake. Have fun. Send pictures.

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    HinTN says:

    @Baud: Up the center of the USA in 2024. All the pros in Wyoming were targeting this one in Chile.

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    Baud says:


    I need to start planning.

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    @Baud: The patriotic eclipses (the total ones that come through America) won’t happen for several years. There can be between 2 and 5 solar eclipses in a calendar year (partial, annular, or total), but the wait is longer if you want a nice total eclipse over a place that you actually want to go to.

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    Baud says:

    @Jerzy Russian:

    That must be what I remember.

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    Baud says:

    They’ll never score 13 at this pace.

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    Fun fact: Starting in the late 1600s, Edmund Halley studied historical eclipse observations and concluded that the rotation period of the Earth is slowly increasing (see https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEhelp/rotation.html). Basically the timings and locations of previous eclipses given in historical accounts did not match his expectations as he “wound the clock” back in time. The Moon raises tides on Earth, and these tides give rise to friction which slows the Earth down.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    The officiating in this game is terrible.

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    lahke says:

    Argentina in December 2020. Get yourself into a tour now, they fill up fast.
    And Egypt in 2027, I think, right over Luxor. And Jerzy Russian, going to those other places is part of the fun; I’d have never had gone to Mongolia else.

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    @lahke: I really wanted to go to Chile for the upcoming one, but there were too many other things going on.

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    Leto says:

    @Baud: They only scored three in the first half against Thailand, then the second half they went wild. But they won’t do that with this team.

    @Adam L Silverman: Yes.

    I was super happy that Thailand scored that goal against Sweden. Rocket of a shot. I hope they get another one against Chile and end of a positive note.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Leto: I recorded it, but haven’t watched it yet.

    As for the current US V Chile game, if the refs don’t get it together, the game will get out of control. The offsides call that disallowed the Chile goal was terrible.

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    pat says:

    I have been watching the game and what is in the picture up top is NOT what the players are wearing.

    It’s 3-0 and the second half has just started. Afraid poor Chile doesn’t have a chance.

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    Raven says:

    I’m not liking the picture on youtube tv, is it grainy on other platforms?

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    raven says:

    @pat: “NOT what the players are wearing.”


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    Leto says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The Sweden-Thailand game is what you would expect. Agreed about the Chile disallowed goal. Also the second US goal never should have happened. They’re still putting in a good performance though.

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    eclare says:

    Chile gk is amazing

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    Raven says:

    Stop with the one V one.

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    @Jerzy Russian:
    This is why we have to keep adding leap seconds. Our time intervals were defined in terms of the mean solar day at a particular time, and since the days keep getting ever so slightly longer, we have to keep adding leap seconds to keep civil time in sync with astronomical time.

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    Avalune says:

    Chile’s goalkeeper is beast.

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    The Dangerman says:

    Is anyone keeping up with this Costco shooting in Corona (at least I think it’s in Corona; I’m forgetful as I’ve been there many times)? Seems to me this off duty cop may get charged (sure seems like it went to lethal force awful fast).

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    mrmoshpotato says:


    I’m going to Chile in two weeks for the solar eclipse, so can we try for a tie? I don’t want to mess with the sun god now.

    Bad news. 3-0 messing with the sun God in progress.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @The Dangerman: LAPD cops don’t have much credibility….

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    raven says:

    @The Dangerman: The LA Times and the Daily Breeze both report the cop was holding a child and was attacked.

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    The Dangerman says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    True enough, but basically emptying your clip on the guy and, worse, two apparently innocent bystanders should get you time in the Big House.

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    Planetjanet says:

    Must interject another type of ball. A rugby ball. The USA women just won the Biarritz 7s in France this afternoon. This is the last leg of the season for the HSBC 7s. New Zealand won the overall season, but tonight’s victory is sweet. The Eagles completely controlled the New Zealand Black Ferns 26-10. I am at the tournament. Now to find a sports bar along the beach to celebrate the win with a glass of Bordeaux and watch fútball as well.

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    encephalopath says:

    What does Jill Ellis have against Tobin Heath? Is someone holding a hateful grudge?

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    The LA Times and the Daily Breeze both report the cop was holding a child and was attacked.

    They’re repeating what the Corona PD said, which you can bet is a repeat of what the shooter said. It may be true, but I’d like some independent corroboration.

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    lahke says:

    Urgh. Not (much) to go totally off-thread, but am sitting in theater waiting for a live opera to start, in front of people who think it’s okay to bring a 3year old child.

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    Mart says:

    @lahke: I had about ten minutes of total solar eclipse over my house a couple years ago. I thought it was sorta OK – but way overhyped, and decided would never hassle myself to see another one. Make sure to have lots of other plans in Chile in case you are an eclipse curmudgeon like me.

    Also too in sports, 500,000 drunk Let’s Go Blues fans in downtown St. Louis for the parade yesterday, and about that many in taverns when they won game 7. No jerks tipping cars, no rocks thru windows, or punching each other. Now that is a remarkable sporting accomplishment.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @lahke: Is it an opera about Thomas the Tank Engine?

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @lahke: a clear case of child abuse.

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    trollhattan says:

    Pretty amazing we can replace more than half the starting lineup and field such a good team. Ellis will continue tinkering at least up to the quarter finals, which earned her a lot of criticism in 2015 but seems to work.

    Endler should be player of the match and it’s too bad Chile probably doesn’t go deep into the tournament because she’s a strong golden bootglove candidate.

    Sweden on Thursday will be fun!

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    Brachiator says:

    Woo hoo! Team USA is another step closer to hamberders at the White House.

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    mrmoshpotato says:


    Woo hoo! Team USA is another step closer to hamberders at the White House.

    I doubt Dump even knows soccer is a sport. Much less that women play it too, and better than the men in recent years.

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    lahke says:

    Totals are at most 6 minutes, so I think you saw a partial. Totals are amazing and this will be my 10th.

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    lahke says:

    Almost as silly send-up of the Helen of Troy legend by Offenbach, and it sounds like her older sister is a court attendant. Kid’s been keeping pretty quiet, I must say.

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    lahke says:

    After all, the sun goes out. Hard to beat that for impact.

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    trollhattan says:

    If Dump gets a look at Abby Dahlkemper he’ll decide he’s soccer’s yugest fan and bring in Burger King’s head chef personally. The resulting “fuck you very much” would be all the more satisfying.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    La belle Hélène, big specialty for Frederica von Stade, I believe. Very popular in 19th-century Russia. Referenced in Anna Karenina and War and Peace (anachronistically).

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    Lapassionara says:

    @Mart: I liked that they had viewing parties at the Enterprise Center and Busch Stadium, both sold out. Why stay home and watch a game on TV when you can watch it on TV with 20,000 other screaming fans?

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    Raven says:

    @Lapassionara: I like that you say “I liked that. . . “!

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    Baud says:


    Why stay home and watch a game on TV when you can watch it on TV with 20,000 other screaming fans?

    Pause the DVR. Hit the head. Resume the DVR.

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    NotMax says:

    A Father’s Day ditty. :)

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    @Roger Moore: Another fun fact: the length of the day varies (on millisecond timescales) over the year, basically as a result of angular momentum transfer from the Earth to the atmosphere and back. There is a distinct six month oscillating signal superimposed on the long-term secular trend. This is known from long-term monitoring of quasars using VLBI (Very Long Baseline Interferometry).

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    Mart says:

    @lahke: You are right. Total eclipse over my house in 2017 was about two minutes long. Glad you enjoy them. My dad was a big fan of the moon and sun dance.

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    JPL says:

    All I hope is that they celebrated appropriated, and maybe even curtsied to the audience.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Our weekend in Portland is winding down — our late checkout time is 2 pm, so we’re going to stash our luggage with the front desk and wander a bit until it’s time to head for the airport.

    Powell’s Books will ship your purchases for a maximum fee of about $12. That was … dangerous.

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    J R in WV says:


    Totals are amazing and this will be my 10th.

    We drove over into KY for the most recent US eclipse, stayed on the Ohio River in a nice hotel, drove down by Marion, pulled over by the road, had champagne after totality was over, met some great people from all over the country who flew into somewhere it was cloudy and drove all night to get into the clear weather.

    My first eclipse, was stunned by the beauty, the weather change during totality, when it cooled down the 100% humidity started falling out of the air. Many pictures! Wanted a longer lens!

    Would do it again!

    Thot about going to Chile, decided to wait for the next one here. In the US you can see weather radar, adjust your final drive to totality with real information…

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    mrmoshpotato says:


    Pause the DVR. Hit the head. Resume the DVR.

    Also beer you can taste at a fair price.

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    trollhattan says:

    @J R in WV:
    Yup, punked out on driving to northern Oregon in Aug ’17 so watched the partial from a Sierra lakeside instead. It was well worth the effort but I also know a feeble proxy for the whole Magilla. Know what you mean about no lens being long enough, this is from my longest combo and still cropped to about a third of the frame.

    Did lug my spotting scope and could fill the entire field of view, but with no totality you can’t see the corona.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Mart: You forgot about the time the moon ate the sun?

    *munch munch munch*

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    lahke says:

    @J R in WV:
    That’s why it’s worth it to go somewhere dry; in 2017 checked the August weather pattern for Kentucky and picked eastern Oregon. Shorter totality unfortunately. Having this one in that Atacama desert should work out.

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    trollhattan says:

    Also, too, with enough magnification to fill the field of view and no tracking mount, the subject rockets out of view with surprising speed.

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    lahke says:

    @zhena gogolia:
    Right, with some anachronistic touches of its own in this production.

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    smintheus says:

    @lahke: That’s a delightful opera.

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    pete says:

    @trollhattan: Abby Dahlkemper is gorgeous, certainly, but (1) Dump could never catch her, and (2) she could lay him out with just one well-placed application of either foot.

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    JML says:


    I think Ellis plays favorites and is overrated as a coach, but in this case Tobin (whom I love) is just getting a rest game along with the rest of the front line. She’ll be back against Sweden. As good as the second wave played against Chile, it seems unlikely they’ll change the forwards, even for Carli Lloyd. Real question is who starts in the mid: with Sauerbrunn healthy Ertz probably stays in the center mid, Does Horan go wide or get a game off to guard against a second yellow? Rose Lavelle seems likely to get a start for her playmaking, so who is the 3rd?

    Lloyd is publicly campaigning to start, but who here would tap her over Alex Morgan? Morgan is in killer form right now too, and I don’t think Lloyd fits another spot in this formation. Christen Press might be the only player from the Chile game who earned more PT; I think she’s the first off the bench to give the team a spark up top outside.

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