This movie seems familiar…

Trump is underwater in the polls, under fire for confessing on national TV that he’d welcome reelection assistance from foreign governments, flailing in trade wars that threaten to undermine the economy, and besieged by subpoenas in a widening series of investigations that may blossom into a full-flown impeachment inquiry. Think he wouldn’t like a “splendid little war” to take the focus off this fail parade?

In other news, you won’t have Sarah Sanders to kick around come July. Per The Post:

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders will leave the job at the end of the month, President Trump announced in a tweet Thursday.

“She is a very special person with extraordinary talents, who has done an incredible job! I hope she decides to run for Governor of Arkansas — she would be fantastic. Sarah, thank you for a job well done!”

She didn’t do her job at all — they may as well convert the press briefing room back into a swimming pool for all the use they’re getting out of it. Anyhoo, good riddance, Sarah — may all your cheese plates be comped!

PS: Who do you think will replace her? Speaking of cheese, ambulatory cream cheese sculpture Hugh Hewitt has been auditioning for the job for a couple of years…






104 replies
  1. 1
    chopper says:

    It is the assessment of the U.S. government that Iran is responsible for the gum disease known as gingivitis.

  2. 2
    Baud says:

    It is the assessment of the U.S. government that Iran is responsible for today’s attacks in the Gulf of Oman.

    Is this standard language? I would have assumed that a legitimate statement of this sort would say something about U.S. intelligence agencies, not the U.S. government.

  3. 3
    NotMax says:

    What, she won’t stick around to pontificate that the July 4 crowds are the largest ever in the history of humankind, larger than the next three crowd counts combined?

    Hasta la vista to a modern day incarnation of a hierodule.

  4. 4
    Baud says:

    Trump is underwater in the polls, under fire for confessing on national TV that he’d welcome reelection assistance from foreign governments, flailing in trade wars that threaten to undermine the economy, and besieged by subpoenas in a widening series of investigations that may blossom into a full-flown impeachment inquiry. 

    This may be controversial here, but all this validates my view that Pelosi was correct in holding off formal impeachment hearings.

    Let Trump marinate in his own sputter for a little while to soften him up.

  5. 5
    Johnny Gentle (famous crooner) says:

    Who fucking cares who replaces her. Why does trump even bother filling the position? I’m sure Sanders will end up with some prominent and profitable position on Fox News or a think tank or whatever. The White House reporters will then be humiliated anew by her replacement. Nothing matters and there are no consequences in government anymore.

  6. 6
    MattF says:

    I imagine that Hewitt got points from the WH for his recent WaPo opinion column claiming that the Mexican ‘negotiation’ was a massive win for Trump (no link). I’ve been irritated by Hewitt’s liberal-baiting, but it’s quite possible that that he’s been fishing for a job.

  7. 7
    Another Scott says:

    HuffPo from November 2017:

    Pompeo and Cotton are close ideological allies on foreign policy, having worked closely to undermine President Obama’s negotiations and later prevent the Iran nuclear deal from surviving Congressional review. In 2014, the two spoke to reporters on the Iran negotiations, with Cotton saying “I hope that Congress’ role will be to put an end to these negotiations.” If there was any doubt what their alternative to negotiations was, Pompeo clarified “In an unclassified setting, it is under 2,000 sorties to destroy the Iranian nuclear capacity. This is not an insurmountable task for the coalition forces.”

    Time did little to sober Cotton and Pompeo’s hawkishness on Iran. After the nuclear deal had been finalized that summer, Cotton and Pompeo traveled to Vienna to review the International Atomic Energy Agency’s plan to finalize its long-running investigation into prior, possible military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear program. While such plans are routinely kept confidential in order to ensure that the inspected state’s security is not in any way compromised, the pair of hawks spun that technical plan into a nefarious, “secret side deal” they alleged the administration was withholding from the American public. Nothing could be further from the truth, but Cotton and Pompeo used their hyping of the facts to further their campaign against the deal.

    Pompeo is looking for a pretext, and doesn’t seem to be averse to manufacturing one if necessary. :-/

    In other other news, TheHill:

    Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is eyeing a possible exit from the Senate, and his decision could be a significant factor in which party controls the majority in 2021.

    In moments of frustration, the centrist senator has gone so far as to tell colleagues he may leave the upper chamber before the end of this Congress, or after the 2020 elections.

    Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) keeps a close watch on Manchin, and the senators have a good working relationship. While Schumer recognizes that his West Virginia colleague can get exasperated by dysfunction in the Senate, he believes Manchin is content and engaged in his job.

    But Manchin says he’s deeply irritated with the lack of bipartisan cooperation on Capitol Hill, where passing bills has largely become an afterthought in the 116th Congress.

    Manchin noted supporters in West Virginia are pressing him to run for governor next year, and he’s considering it.

    […]

    Not unexpected (there have been continuing rumors), but it is another reason to keep an eye on the Senate for November 2020.

    Eyes on the prize.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  8. 8
    MP says:

    May all your cheese plates be comped threw me for a second. I was about to consult my Little Book of Yiddish Insults before I remembered the Red Hen Incident.

  9. 9
    dww44 says:

    I am actually afraid that this is what Pompeo is up to. He’s sane only in comparison to whom he works for. Otherwise, I think he sees an opportunity to go to war against those awful Iranians. Lord, protect us.

    O/T I got this email today from Senator Perdue: and have already called his office and left a voicemail ( he never has humans manning his phones, unlike Isakson) The nerve of this guy to talk about all the shutdowns and the need to address the 22 trillion dollar deficit, never assigning any blame to himself ( he voted for that tax cut) and never assigning any responsibility for the budget impasses. I’m sure that it can all be laid at Democrats’ feet, right? If there’s any justice in this world, this guy will be gone November 2020.

    “Yesterday, I introduced my plan to fix our broken funding process.
    Since I came to the Senate, this has been one of my top priorities.
    Anyone can see that this process is dysfunctional. In the last 45 years, we’ve had 186 temporary funding bills, 21 shutdowns and only four times when the government has been fully funded, on time.
    My plan – the Fix Funding First Act – makes bold changes to the funding process:

    1. Changes fiscal year to match calendar year.
    2. Provides topline spending levels every two years.
    3. Gives budget the force of law.
    4. Creates real-life consequences for Members of Congress.
    5. Requires 5-year strategic plan .
    The plan forces hard decisions to be made at the beginning of the year instead of waiting until the last minute.
    It’s a necessary first step to reining in our $22 trillion national debt.
    Enough is enough – we will not solve the debt crisis until we fix this funding crisis. ”

  10. 10
    O. Felix Culpa says:

    Wag the Dog. My first thought when I saw the headlines this morning. Will our media and country fall for it?

    ETA: Also too, if our intelligence agencies per Dear Leader are wrong wrong wrong about Russia, why should we believe them about this?

  11. 11
    kindness says:

    It doesn’t matter who Trump chooses for Press Secretary if they don’t give press briefings. And all the bullshit Trump and his minions have foisted on the globe means the only people on this globe that believe TrumpCo’s assessment that it was Iran who attacked the tankers is going to be Trump’s base. No one else because Trump lies so spectacularly.

    Yes, it is biting Trump in the ass. It’s Trump’s own damn fault. Trump can’t play checkers let alone 11 dimensional chess. I miss Barack. We were a better country then.

  12. 12
    randy khan says:

    I think that, for once, Trump was right when he described Sanders as having “extraordinary talents.” I really haven’t seen a sustained performance like hers since the Iraqi information minister, and she’s kept it up much longer.

    I certainly wouldn’t wish her on the people of Arkansas, although a part of me thinks it might be an opportunity for the Dems if she ran for governor.

  13. 13
    les says:

    She didn’t do her job at all

    Wadda ya mean? Her job was to lie endlessly for the president*; however unconvincing and ludicrous her performance was, she did lie endlessly.

  14. 14
    Brachiator says:

    Who do you think will replace her? Speaking of cheese, ambulatory cream cheese sculpture Hugh Hewitt has been auditioning for the job for a couple of years…

    Hewitt would be the perfect toady.

  15. 15
    NotMax says:

    Adam has infinitely better resources than I to find out, but wondering how MEK, hunched over their keyboards in Albania, is spinning this.

  16. 16
    burnspbesq says:

    My working hypothesis, until proven otherwise, is that Pompeo is lying his ass off.

  17. 17
    TenguPhule says:

    Anyhoo, good riddance, Sarah — may all your cheese plates be comped!

    She needs to continue to be hounded in private life. No fucking escaping from the consequences by quitting.

  18. 18
    Another Scott says:

    @Brachiator: Donnie seems to like people who are mean to the press. Is Hewitt like that? (I’m not getting out of the boat to check.)

    If he hires a replacement, whoever it is will be temporary.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  19. 19
    donnah says:

    Good riddance to bad rubbish, aka Sarah Huckleberry Sanders. She was Trump’s mouthpiece, as obnoxious and deceitful as Trump is, and what’s worse, she was always sneering and insulting. She lied without batting an eyelash and she was always hateful.

    I’m sure she’ll do just fine, and since she hasn’t got a conscience or a soul to worry about, the sky’s the limit.

  20. 20
    TenguPhule says:

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Will our media and country fall for it?

    Of course they will.

    The media has learned that Trump sells eyeballs.

  21. 21
    TenguPhule says:

    @dww44:

    4. Creates real-life consequences for Members of Congress.

    Perdue should pay his dues. With a pound of flesh.

  22. 22
    NotMax says:

    Guess Pompeo figured no one would buy it if he laid blame on Venezuela. //

  23. 23
    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud:

    This may be controversial here, but all this validates my view that Pelosi was correct in holding off formal impeachment hearings.

    Let Trump marinate in his own sputter for a little while to soften him up.

    I’d like there to be a country left fit to live in.

  24. 24
    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud:

    Is this standard language?

    We have no standards anymore.

  25. 25
    Another Scott says:

    Twitter:

    Elizabeth Dickinson Verified account @dickinsonbeth
    8 hours ago

    Our current moment in the Gulf is ripe with peril and it’s emblematic of why US-Iran tensions are such a dangerous macro-story for the region. After the latest string of incidents, the geopolitics, regional dynamics, and numerous local conflicts are all on a hair trigger. 1/

    Both sides of the geopolitical divide have raised the stakes such that miscalculation and accidental escalation are real concerns. The Gulf meanwhile has a visual on what direct confrontation could look like. Yet cooler heads in the region are trapped in the geopolitics. 2/

    The macro-story also traps conflicts across the region and freezes them. They can’t thaw until the geopolitical tensions unwind. Yemen is the clearest case, but implications everywhere from Iraq to Syria to Sudan. 3/

    Frankly though, one of the biggest risks at the moment is hyperbole. The power of these sorts of incidents is in their ability to shape perceptions, not cause material damage. There is a fine line between acknowledging what’s happening and playing into the negative cycle. END

    6:21 AM – 13 Jun 2019

    Yup.

    (via Al Jazeera)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  26. 26
    Brachiator says:

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    Wag the Dog. My first thought when I saw the headlines this morning. Will our media and country fall for it?

    I was thinking more, Remember the Maine! Or Gulf of Tonkin.

    Will the media fall for it? Happily.

    Also too, if our intelligence agencies per Dear Leader are wrong wrong wrong about Russia, why should we believe them about this?

    It’s odd. Someone pointed out that the announcement said “assessment of US government. Is this standard verbiage? Is it crediting or excluding intelligence agencies?

  27. 27
    NotMax says:

    @Another Scott

    Jared will fix it.

    //

  28. 28
    MattF says:

    @Another Scott: The notion that you can eliminate Iran’s nuclear capabilities solely with air power is a tell. ‘Evolution’ of the plan to an attack by ground forces will be necessary when air power fails.

  29. 29
    NotMax says:

    @Brachiator
    Don’t even have to reach that far back.

    Yellowcake.
    Aluminum tubes.
    Bioweapons trailers.
    Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

  30. 30
    ...now I try to be amused says:

    Sanders did do an incredible job, in the original sense of the word.

  31. 31
    J R in WV says:

    @NotMax:

    Hasta la vista to a modern day incarnation of a hierodule.

    Really?

    And congrats, you stumped my wife, she had to search engine up a definition of that greek-based word!!

  32. 32
    japa21 says:

    Mrs Japa and I both agree that it would not beyond this administration to orchestrate the attacks on the tankers. Iran says they are being framed and, quite frankly, I tend to believe them over anything Pompeo may say. As to why he uses the phrase “US Government” rather than intelligence agencies it is simply because he has no indication that the intelligence agencies agree with his statement. He provided no evidence to support the claim and I am not sure he can.

    Note: I am not saying Iran didn’t do it, but there are other just as likely suspects.

  33. 33
    zhena gogolia says:

    @japa21:

    Shades of Moscow apartment bombings by “Chechens.”

  34. 34
    Another Scott says:

    One for Cheryl – GovExec:

    DR. FRANCIS COLLINS
    Director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH)

    The National Institutes of Health is committed to changing the culture and climate of biomedical research to create an inclusive and diverse workforce. The recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine, “Sexual Harassment of Women: Climate, Culture, and Consequence in Academic Science, Engineering, and Medicine,” identified the critical role that scientific leaders must play to combat cultural forces that tolerate gender harassment and limit the advancement of women. These concerns also are highly relevant to other groups underrepresented in science. It is not enough to give lip service to equality; leaders must demonstrate their commitment through their actions.

    Toward that end, I want to send a clear message of concern: it is time to end the tradition in science of all-male speaking panels, sometimes wryly referred to as “manels.” Too often, women and members of other groups underrepresented in science are conspicuously missing in the marquee speaking slots at scientific meetings and other high-level conferences. Starting now, when I consider speaking invitations, I will expect a level playing field, where scientists of all backgrounds are evaluated fairly for speaking opportunities. If that attention to inclusiveness is not evident in the agenda, I will decline to take part. I challenge other scientific leaders across the biomedical enterprise to do the same.

    The diversity of bright and talented minds engaged in biomedical research has come a long way – and our public engagements need to catch up. Breaking up the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) bias that is preventing women and other groups underrepresented in science from achieving their rightful place in scientific leadership must begin at the top.

    (emphasis added.)

    Good, good. But it’s a scandal that it’s still a problem in 2019. Grr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  35. 35
    Brachiator says:

    @Another Scott:

    Donnie seems to like people who are mean to the press. Is Hewitt like that? (I’m not getting out of the boat to check.)

    Hewitt used to appear on public affairs tv programs in Southern California. He has made a career of kissing up to his right wing masters. But you raise a good point. He is not as nasty as Sarah. Not as belligerent. I’m not sure he could rise to the occasion.

    If he hires a replacement, whoever it is will be temporary.

    Trump has mastered the art of naming “acting” officials.

  36. 36
    NotMax says:

    @J R in WV

    Whole lotta crossword puzzles under the belt, coupled with a plethora of history studies.

    ;)

  37. 37
    germy says:

    Remember, when the war starts, the first objective we absolutely must achieve will be to vilify the French. https://t.co/1hFO73088N
    — Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 13, 2019

  38. 38
    Another Scott says:

    TheHill – “Four candidates did not make the [first Democratic presidential debate] stage: Montana Gov. Steve Bullock, Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.), former Sen. Mike Gravel (D-Alaska) and Miramar, Fla. Mayor Wayne Messam.”

    The weeding-out finally begins…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  39. 39
    germy says:

    In 24 hours they know who struck the vessels…..months later still no answer as to who killed Kashoggi from the same ppl.
    — Jonathan Israel (@jbisrael) June 13, 2019

  40. 40
    germy says:

    New essay: Remember the Maine
    The question you should be asking is this: Who benefits?
    Who benefits from attacking tankers in the Gulf of Oman?
    Of all the nations who might want war between the US and Iran, Iran is the least likely candidate. https://t.co/Zv9NE12JaC
    — Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 13, 2019

  41. 41
    germy says:

    @Another Scott: Tulsi made it, and also the self-help guru lady (I don’t remember her name)

  42. 42
    Jharp says:

    I’d love to see Hugh Hewitt destroy his career by going to work for Trump.

    Go for it Hugh.

  43. 43
    J R in WV says:

    @burnspbesq:

    My working hypothesis, until proven otherwise, is that Pompeo is lying his ass off.

    I agree wholeheartedly. Also, I saw reports that one tanker was damaged above the water line, too. Not a submariner weapons officer, but my understanding was that torpedoes damage ships underwater, below the water line.

    Sabotage may be above the waterline… missiles would be above the waterline.

    I dunno. Why would Iran attack Japanese tankers while PM Abe is conducting talks in Tehran? Ask yourself that!!!

  44. 44
    NotMax says:

    @Another Scott

    Baud! is biding his time.

    :)

  45. 45
    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Brachiator:

    Remember the Maine! Or Gulf of Tonkin.

    Those fit too. I see no credible motive for Iran to make such an attack, while this maladministration would – in their blinkered worldview – have compelling reasons to orchestrate one.

  46. 46
    dr. bloor says:

    @Brachiator:

    It’s odd. Someone pointed out that the announcement said “assessment of US government. Is this standard verbiage? Is it crediting or excluding intelligence agencies

    Yeah, that jumped out at me as well. “Fuck the intelligence agencies–l’etat c’est moi.”

  47. 47
    debbie says:

    I believe I heard reporting that Trump was going to be his own press secretary and communications director. This is the best idea he’s had in weeks.

    @Baud:

    Seconded. His being his own press secretary will hasten that along.

  48. 48
    Ryan says:

    @Another Scott: Why isn’t Mancin leading with leadership?

  49. 49
    Mike in NC says:

    @Jharp: Hewitt’s last column in the WaPo laughably stated that Trump’s brilliant tariff threat against Mexico left critics “sputtering”. Then the commenters ganged up on his Trump-loving ass and many nicknamed him Huge Nitwit.

  50. 50
    debbie says:

    @Another Scott:

    If he hires a replacement, whoever it is will be temporary.

    If not himself, I hope Trump choses Hannity.

  51. 51
    Sab says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: Driving home from the grocery I listened to NPR and they reported Pompeo blaming Iran for the explosions as straightforward news(i.e. Iran did it.) No skepticism at all.

  52. 52
    Mike in NC says:

    Warmonger Pompeo’s assessment by the “US Government” meant him and Bolton and Trump, but that last guy was probably enjoying Executive Time with a few Big Macs, and completely unaware.

    The DOD ignored Cheney’s sabre rattling against Iran and I hope there are still adults left there to continue to do so.

  53. 53
    Noskilz says:

    Hopefully it will go to whoever has been the biggest blight on the landscape. Being Trump’s Press Secretary is an impossible job certain only to be a source of unending aggravation and disgrace for whoever lands the gig, so let’s hope it goes to someone who could really use being turned into a contemptible laughingstock who will be thrown away without a second thought, with future prospects turned to ash.

  54. 54
    Ruckus says:

    @Johnny Gentle (famous crooner):
    She doesn’t look expensive enough for faux news. She also can’t smile while lying out her teeth, and that for sure is a requirement for faux.

  55. 55
    germy says:

    I can see by your eyes you must be lying
    When you think I don’t have a clue
    Baby you’re crazy
    If you think that you can fool me
    Because I’ve seen that movie too

    – Bernie Taupin

  56. 56
    sukabi says:

    @Baud: that stood out to me as well. It seems that past statements of this nature stressed intelligence agencies from US as well as trusted allies.

  57. 57
    Bill Arnold says:

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    I see no credible motive for Iran to make such an attack, while this maladministration would – in their blinkered worldview – have compelling reasons to orchestrate one.

    This.
    Also many petrostates have a direct financial motive – short boosts in oil prices, and a huge boost if there is a war that doesn’t directly affect their production/distribution. (Perhaps not the Russia government since they have other dealings with Iran. The US while not a petrostate has a lot of government captured by fossil fuel interests.) Israel has a motive (US war with Iran) and reputed skills (whether or not real). Saudi Arabia, UAE have proximity if not the skills. Etc.
    And that’s just the state actors. The money involved (many billions of increased revenue if there is a war) surely tempt private actors as well. And private actors could be both producers and others who would profit from unexpected (except by them) price changes. And then there are the low-budget parasitic actors who often gin up war fears via real events that they are not responsible for. Bolton has a personal desire for war (fought by others). Etc.

    Which is a long-winded way of saying – be extremely suspicious of claims blaming Iran.

  58. 58
    Ruckus says:

    @burnspbesq:
    For all the lying his ass off, one possibly might consider that he wouldn’t have any ass left, but of course he’s all ass, so there will be ass to the last drop.

  59. 59
    Brachiator says:

    @Jharp:

    I’d love to see Hugh Hewitt destroy his career by going to work for Trump.

    Hewitt doesn’t have much of a career to destroy.

  60. 60
    tokyokie says:

    @Another Scott: Maybe now Bullock will decide to challenge Daines for the Montana Senate seat.

  61. 61
    NotMax says:

    @Brachiator
    Michele Bachmann? Kris Kobach?

    A veritable cornucopia of clowns from which to choose.

  62. 62
    Brachiator says:

    The Guardian report on the supposed attacks included this:

    The 23 crew members on Front Altair were rescued by a nearby vessel then transferred to an Iranian navy boat and disembarked at a local Iranian port.

    The 21-strong crew on the Kokuka Courageous escaped on a lifeboat and were rescued by a Dutch ship then taken aboard by the destroyer, USS Bainbridge.

    The Iranians seemed to be helpful, not belligerent.

  63. 63
    scott (the other one) says:

    @Another Scott:

    But Manchin says he’s deeply irritated with the lack of bipartisan cooperation on Capitol Hill, where passing bills has largely become an afterthought in the 116th Congress.

    Yeah, by all means, make things better by splitting just when it seems you might be able to actually accomplish some stuff. Tool.

  64. 64
    rikyrah says:

    Yeah

    .I believe Iran did it.

    NOT 😠😠

  65. 65
    Bill Arnold says:

    @Brachiator:

    It’s odd. Someone pointed out that the announcement said “assessment of US government. Is this standard verbiage? Is it crediting or excluding intelligence agencies?

    From the transcript(html) of Pompeo’s remarks,

    This assessment is based on intelligence, the weapons used, the level of expertise needed to execute the operation, recent similar Iranian attacks on shipping, and the fact that no proxy group operating in the area has the resources and proficiency to act with such a high degree of sophistication.

    That sounds to me like it’s a Bolton/Pompeo/WarWithIranCheerleaders assessment, bostered by some “intelligence” of unspecified nature. Which could be clear, but is probably quite ambiguous given the players involved in the DJT administration.

  66. 66
    Kent says:

    @Johnny Gentle (famous crooner):

    Who fucking cares who replaces her. Why does trump even bother filling the position? I’m sure Sanders will end up with some prominent and profitable position on Fox News or a think tank or whatever. The White House reporters will then be humiliated anew by her replacement. Nothing matters and there are no consequences in government anymore.

    I want the Mooch back!

    Anthony Scaramucci is tanned and rested and ready for duty!

  67. 67

    @Ruckus: Also, she isn’t skinny and blond.

    @germy: I rolled my eyes at the list of people in that debate and decided not to watch. I understand the DNC’s need to prove it hasn’t picked a candidate, but having Marilyn Williamson on the same state with Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris is a travesty.

  68. 68
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: @Brachiator: Why the fuck not both?

    “The Bible says our great orange Emperor lost the popular vote because of 3-5 million illegal votes and rampant homosexuality. No, my husband is not gay.”

  69. 69
    Magnus says:

    So what has Erik Prince been doing lately? Ginning up another gulf war on behalf of the Saudis, UAE, and Trump perhaps?

  70. 70
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @J R in WV:

    Wonderful, new-to-me word! Thanks, NotMax!

  71. 71
    Kent says:

    @Brachiator:

    It’s odd. Someone pointed out that the announcement said “assessment of US government. Is this standard verbiage? Is it crediting or excluding intelligence agencies?

    If they aren’t specifying and agency or the DOD then one has to assume “US Government” actually means “White House” in this instance.

    What does that mean? I don’t know except that probably the White House just decided to go ahead and blame Iran without actually consulting the various intelligence agencies or NSC. Or they did do so and didn’t like what they heard and went ahead and blamed Iran anyway.

  72. 72
    debbie says:

    @rikyrah:

    I’m going with Bibi being behind it.

  73. 73
    Mandalay says:

    Drier than a dry martini:

    I’ve not been shy about my disagreements with Sarah Huckabee Sanders in the past but it’s incredibly brave of her to quit in protest of the White House’s efforts to drum up war with Iran. I wish her the best.

  74. 74
    Bill Arnold says:

    @NotMax:

    Guess Pompeo figured no one would buy it if he laid blame on Venezuela

    Venezuela is a petrostate, and the secretive Venezuelan Navy special forces have a deserved reputation.
    //s

  75. 75
    SFAW says:

    Any polyglots here? Uncle Cosmo? Can someone translate “Reichstag” into Farsi for me?

    Asking for a US SecState (who is most definitely NOT a friend).

  76. 76
    suzy says:

    @Brachiator: Possible that Iran tells the truth that they’re being framed. Not necessarily by the US. Could be the Russians who want more chaos in the US and who want to help Trump. Could be the Israelis…

  77. 77
    debbie says:

    @suzy:

    From The Guardian:

    Russia pleaded with the US and the Gulf States arrayed against Iran not to leap to conclusions. “No one knows what is behind it,” the Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

  78. 78
    Mandalay says:

    @Another Scott:

    Pompeo is looking for a pretext, and doesn’t seem to be averse to manufacturing one if necessary.

    Pompeo’s statements are riddled with weasel words:

    Mr. Pompeo said the American government’s assessment of Iranian responsibility for the attacks was based on an analysis of intelligence, weapons and patterns of previous actions.

    And more weasel words:

    The US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, said the US believed blasts on the two tankers were carried out by Iran “based on intelligence, the weapons used, the level of expertise needed to execute the operation”.

    Heh. A “terrorism expert” on CNN said that the attacks could have been carried out by anyone, and didn’t need a high level of expertise at all.

    Pompeo is taking a wet shit on what is left of his reputation with this nonsense. He’s got nothing.

  79. 79
    japa21 says:

    @Mandalay: If they were using his, Bolton’s or Trump’s intelligence as a basis, then we know the whole thing can be thrown out.

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    joel hanes says:

    @TenguPhule:

    No fucking escaping from the consequences by quitting.

    I’d be willing to forgive and forget if she’d turn states’ evidence and testify under oath — but alas, the truth is not in her.

  81. 81
    japa21 says:

    Personally, I would go with Saudi Arabia.

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    VeniceRiley says:

    @Another Scott: That letter sounds like how you get Trump to fire you.

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    MomSense says:

    I made the mistake of engaging with sone of the impeach now Pelosi and Dems are do nothings. Man those people are stupid assholes.

    Pompeo wants a war. Bolton is insane and wants a war. Trump is a syphilitic narcissist who desperately needs a war to distract from his crimes and corruption.

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    debbie says:

    @MomSense:

    Can you imagine what his Coalition of the Willing will look like?

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    Jay says:

    Keep in mind that at what has become known as the Power Point Presentations, Eric Prince pitched “false flag” attacks, to the UAE, real and social media fakes, to shape PR and regional Security “Actions” against the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Iran and UAE and regional dissidents.

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    NotMax says:

    @debbie

    The 3 Ns? Normay, Nambia and North Korea.

    ;)

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    Brachiator says:

    @suzy:

    Possible that Iran tells the truth that they’re being framed. Not necessarily by the US. Could be the Russians who want more chaos in the US and who want to help Trump.

    The Russians are almost sounding like the voice of reason, urging the US to calm down. Not sure what their long term game is.

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    West of the Rockies says:

    @TenguPhule:

    She’s going home to Arkansas. Musta heard Wal-Mart was hiring.

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    MomSense says:

    @debbie:

    It would be like walking in to the bar at Mar a Lago after the worst assholes drove everyone else away with their obnoxious behavior.

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    Kent says:

    @Brachiator:

    The Russians are almost sounding like the voice of reason, urging the US to calm down. Not sure what their long term game is.

    They are basically Iranian allies. Long term game? The two big regional powers in the Persian Gulf are Saudi Arabia and Iran. Saudi Arabia is clearly within the US orbit which leaves Iran for the Russians. They already appear to be working together closely in Syria. Who knows what else is going on behind the scenes in terms of Russian-Iranian cooperation an alliances.

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    Chris Johnson says:

    @Sab:

    Driving home from the grocery I listened to NPR and they reported Pompeo blaming Iran for the explosions as straightforward news(i.e. Iran did it.) No skepticism at all.

    You gotta watch for that stuff because it can tell you who is owned. Enemy action. I don’t care who it is or how seemingly reputable they are, there’s a lot of enemy action about and there are entities that are Russia-controlled and prepared to do what’s needed on cue. They can backtrack later after the damage is done but they play an important role.

    Jesus christ, I’m becoming an old wingnut. Reds under the bed. Except they’re no longer Red, they are capitalists like us and they are centers of incalculable wealth and influence making things go their way. I prefered the Commies, frankly, to these guys. The Commies got Gagarin into space. These guys just weaponize Facebook and key media sources.

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    Chris Johnson says:

    @Brachiator:

    The Russians are almost sounding like the voice of reason, urging the US to calm down. Not sure what their long term game is.

    Get the US to become the loose cannon rogue state to the world, and take the role of the peacemaker that is trying to help restrain the mad, imperialist, dangerous USA.

    They’ll get us to fire nukes at Iran even if they have to do it FOR us and paint stars and stripes on ’em and perhaps Coca-Cola logos.

    Their longterm goal is to get the US to flip out and implode. Remember that they are not primarily about furthering the power of Trump or Republicans: it’s a means to an end, and the end is a disgraced and dangerous USA that is the enemy to the world.

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    debbie says:

    Trump always seems to be using Norway as an example of whatever nonsense he’s babbling (most recently, if Norway offered him information about a political opponent). How long until they raise objections?

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    Sab says:

    @Chris Johnson: The NPR reporter was Peter Kenyon, who is currently based in Istanbul. Pompeo was speaking from the State Department in DC.

    So he watched it on TV? Their editors couldn’t have found a reporter farther from relevant sources. Who assigned the story to him?

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    The Lodger says:

    @debbie: I think Anders Brievik is still alive, so he’s got at least one fan in Norway.

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    Jay says:

    @Brachiator:

    @Kent:

    Russia works closely with Iran, Iraq, Israel, UAE, Sawdi Arabia, Turkey, the Kurds, playing in some regards, all sides against the middle, conflict by conflict, as both an arms dealer, trainer and mediator.

    Via Wagner and others, they are replacing the West in much of North and Central Africa as well.

    @Chris Johnson:

    Their long term goal has been achieved. Nobody views the US as a reliable ally, some see it as a threat, an enemy, some see it as unstable, some see it as a mark.

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    Jay says:

    This report, a tour d’horizon of Russian active measures and subversion campaigns throughout North America and Europe, demonstrates that Vladimir Putin’s attempts to infiltrate Western institutions are relentless and that there is one constant to his two decade-long engagement: he triumphs where we invite him to, and most of all where we happily act as his complacent enablers.

    This is a story of how the West consistently fails to get its own house in order. The very institutions created after World War II to keep transparent markets and liberal democracies from corrosion and collapse are now playgrounds for Kremlin agents seeking to enrich themselves and further that corrosion and collapse along. More than anything, the pathologies of our own societies are on ample display in these pages as the principal reason why so many oligarchs, intelligence operatives and bribe-offering banks and energy companies have been able to thrive outside of Russia

    https://www.4freerussia.org/misrule-of-law/

    It’s not just the US that is a target.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @West of the Rockies: She and her trash father will relay team posting stupid, racist trash on Twitter.

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    Jay says:

    SAN DIEGO — The wife of indicted Republican U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter of California has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to misuse campaign funds, including for an Italy trip that cost more than $10,000.

    Margaret Hunter, who worked as her husband’s campaign manager, had previously pleaded not guilty to corruption charges alleging the couple used more than $250,000 in campaign funds to pay for personal trips, hotel rooms and shopping sprees.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/13/duncan-hunter-wife-pleads-guilty-1364344

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    Ruckus says:

    @Brachiator:

    Not sure what their long term game is.

    That’s easy. They want to be able to do whatever they want, any time they want it and they want it to be because they are the most powerful country and as a side note, Vlad wants everyone to pay him something so that he will be the richest man alive – and all the other rich will bow down to him. He will settle for the US being far far weaker, he can pretty much plunder anyone he wants at that point in time.

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    Plato says:

    Pompeo or sanders? Who is the better (or worse) liar?

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Plato:

    Pompeo or sanders? Who is the better (or worse) liar?

    Sanders, no contest. Pompeo tries to say things that can be parsed so that they are true, but is rather clumsy about it.
    Sanders’ lie-flow is smoother, with more concern for flow than for truth, akin to the style of her boss.
    Neither of them are artists, though. This Heinlein quote is closer:
    It’s not enough to be able to lie with a straight face; anybody with enough gall to raise on a busted flush can do that. The first way to lie artistically is to tell the truth but not all of it. The second way involves telling the truth, too, but is harder: Tell the exact truth and maybe all of it but tell it so unconvincingly that your listener is sure you are lying. (Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love)
    “unconvincingly” is broad. The listener can be manipulated (e.g. through triggerings of their own biases) to believe that you are lying, that you are telling a joke, etc.
    Heinlein neglects multiple possible parsings, multiple levels of metaphor, puns, etc.
    The US intelligence agencies are not bad at these games in their public statements.
    This is what I find most offensive about the D.J. Trump administration (and the Republican party, most of it); their blatant disregard for the truth.
    Well, that, and the other offensive things.

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    BroD says:

    @Baud:
    Agree.

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    hotshoe says:

    Listening to talk radio on my drive home just now, I’m sad but not surprised about the callers who say how glad they are that Dumpster is president. “Because he will be tough with Iran.” “About time America gets tough with the country of terrorists”.

    Get tough, how, I want to scream.

    God, how dumb and vicious are Dumpster supporters!

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