Wednesday Evening Open Thread: Round ‘Em Up






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    Jerzy Russian says:

    Why does this story end with him walking away?

    Along those same lines, why didn’t he get a knee in the groin?

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    TenguPhule says:

    Barr’s contempt for the rule of law is breathtaking.

    Nancy Pelosi’s restraint would be admirable in other circumstances.

    But not these.

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    chopper says:

    AG Barr approached Pelosi, shook her hand: “Madam Speaker, did you bring your handcuffs?”

    “nope, but i did bring my budget-writing pen.”

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    lumpkin says:

    Every goddamned one of them is an asshole, through and through.

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    SFAW says:

    Oh, those RWMFs are SO hilarious! Some of their greatest hits:
    RWMF: “Did you hear the one about the Democrat lie-beral? He fucking SUCKS!” Crowd: “Har-de-har-har”
    RWMF: “Then there was the time I shot a Democrat lie-beral, because he was talking about injustice” Crowd: “Har-de-har-har”
    RWMF: “Then there was the time I went up to a Democrat lie-beral, said ‘Look! Over there!’ and when he looked, I kicked him in the nuts” Crowd: “Har-de-har-har”

    That’s pretty much their entire repertoire.

    I hope they all fucking die painful deaths (he said, unironically). Then I might say “Har-de-har-har”

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    trollhattan says:

    The heck is this about? The usual distraction technique? Selling more soybeans?

    President Donald Trump has declared a national emergency to protect US computer networks from “foreign adversaries”.

    The president signed an executive order effectively barring US companies from using foreign telecoms believed to pose a security risk to the country. Mr Trump does not name any company specifically in the order. However, analysts suggest it is mainly directed at Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei.

    A number of countries have raised concerns the company’s products could be used by China for surveillance. The Chinese company – which is the world’s largest maker of telecoms equipment – has denied that its work poses any risks of espionage or sabotage.

    According to a statement from the White House, Mr Trump’s order aims to “protect America from foreign adversaries who are actively and increasingly creating and exploiting vulnerabilities in information and communications technology infrastructure and services”.

    It gives the secretary of commerce the power to “prohibit transactions posing an unacceptable risk to the national security”, the statement adds. The move was instantly welcomed by Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai, who said in a statement it was “a significant step toward securing America’s networks”.

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    SFAW says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Hey, the more the merrier. I hear there’s a Town Clerk in southeast North Dakota (or is it northwest South Dakota?) who’s about to declare, because why not?

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    rikyrah says:

    Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) Tweeted:
    Scoop: Sen. Kamala Harris Will Not Appear On Fox News For A Town Hall https://t.co/GbVP5QFy4y https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1128749790433509377?s=17

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    SFAW says:

    @trollhattan:

    Trade wars, plus he’s going to get network security help from a bunch of experts in St. Petersburg, graciously offered to him by his master.

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    @SFAW: the debates are gonna be wild.

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    Martin says:

    Bad move by Barr. By signaling that handcuffs are the only way Congress can get his attention, he pretty much forces their hand.

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    rikyrah says:

    Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) Tweeted:
    I know the men who did this, and they will not respond to reason, morality or economic harm. They will only be swayed by the permanent loss of power. These bills are cropping up across the country, but only Georgia has the film industry as central to the economy. https://twitter.com/staceyabrams/status/1128760959890276352?s=17

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @trollhattan: Canada. Huawei is heavily involved in developing Canada’s next gen wifi network.

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    Emma says:

    I think Barr will come to rue pissing off the Arya Stark of politics.

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    lurker dean says:

    so fucking soft. fuck. so it’s okay that russia interfered and continues to interfere. it’s okay that the idiot obstructed the investigations. it’s okay that the attorney general lies to congress and okay that he goes after enemies. so glad so many people wasted their time helping dems win the house.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rep-jerry-nadler-we-re-probably-not-headed-for-impeachment/ar-AABowDh?

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @SFAW:
    I have to be honest. The other day when I was at work I caught a glimpse at a newspaper headline that was about state abortion bills trying to get a challenge to the Supreme Court and all I could think about was how many women this was all going to ultimately kill. That the federal courts were being stacked by Trump and McConnell and will still be fucked when I’m in my 60s. If social security will even still be around, what society will look like.

    My anger started to rise and then I though back to when some old duffer made me count out $5.60 in change using dimes and nickles with a couple of quarters to buy some liquor and a half-gallon of milk. As he walked out, he said “For all you Trump supporters out there”, or something to that effect. It was some stupid rebel call to arms shit.

    In the “present”, all I could think was, “You son of a bitch, you stole my future. You have blood on your hands. People have died because of the choice you made 2.5 years ago. All because you couldn’t stand to share the country with those that looked different than you, couldn’t stand to have a woman as president.”

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    NotMax says:

    @trollhattan

    Isn’t that the dreaded regulation? //

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    @Adam L Silverman: from what I’ve read, Trump’s anti-Huawei moves are something of a blind pig/truffle situation when it comes to American infosec. What’s your opinion?

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    Sab says:

    @Emma: Nancy Pelosi isn’t Arya the assassin. She is Sansa, who plays by, and understands the rules and conventions and still wins.

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    Percysowner says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: I’m in my 60s and have a 14 month old granddaughter. I really worry about her future. Will she even be allowed to take birth control or will every method a woman controls be declared and abortificant, including finding a way to declare the oldie, but goodie, diaphragm? Why do I even ask?

    @rikyrah: So all it took was Elizabeth Warren having the GUTS to stand up to Fox and now it’s safe for all the Democratic candidates. Good for her and good for Harris in following her lead.

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    hells littlest angel says:

    Barr laughed; walked away.

    The Attorney General of the United States. What a fucking disgrace.

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    germy says:

    @hells littlest angel:

    It's one thing to hold yourself above the law, it's another level to taunt the cops. https://t.co/imPb5mgbpI— Schooley (@Rschooley) May 15, 2019

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @rikyrah: She is not wrong. But the point of a movie and TV industry boycott is to create the pressure on other powerful interests in Georgia, specifically economically powerful ones, that will then threaten the power of the men who passed the legislation and signed it into law.

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    germy says:


    NEWS IN BRIEF

    Abused 12-Year-Old Alabama Girl Doesn’t Think She Can Handle Being A Mom On Top Of Everything Else

    https://local.theonion.com/abused-12-year-old-alabama-girl-doesn-t-think-she-can-h-1834787176

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I don’t know, because I have no idea if Coates and Haspell and Wray and whomever is running the NSA right now are briefing him on it.

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    a movie and TV industry boycott

    Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the Jane Fonda/Ted Turner household.

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    BC in Illinois says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Okay, the announcement for Bill di Blasio, goes on to reference Bill de Blasio.

    Crackerjack organization they’ve got there.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @NotMax:

    They got divorced years ago, didn’t they?

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @trollhattan:
    Adam’s Canada answer is interesting. The usual cynical answer is that the Huawei equipment doesn’t have backdoors that the NSA knows about. Also see Pair of Cisco Bugs, One Unpatched, Affect Millions of Devices (Tara Seals, May 13, 2019)
    Or some combination – China is an adversary as anyone who looks at network traffic/IDS logs can tell you, and the NSA feels emasculated without its repertoire of backdoor techniques.. (I tried to just barely avoid the pun there, not entirely successfully.)

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    germy says:

    @zhena gogolia: Yes. And whatever happened to Ted Turner? I never see him quoted anywhere anymore.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Pennsylvania Poll – Quinnipiac — May 14 (link)

    Uncle Joe………39%
    Wilmer…………..13%
    Kamala……………8%
    Warren……………8%
    Pete………………..6%
    Booker…………….5%
    Beto………………..2%

    Handsome Joe beats Wilmer 24% to 23% in the “very liberal” segment; 46% to 17% in the “somewhat liberal” segment; 44% to 9% in the “moderate” segment; and 44% to 11% among women.

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    VeniceRiley says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    She is not wrong. But the point of a movie and TV industry boycott is to create the pressure on other powerful interests in Georgia, specifically economically powerful ones, that will then threaten the power of the men who passed the legislation and signed it into law.

    It’s also, as I have pointed out elsewhere, irresponsible to ask your female cast and crew to live in Gilead for months on end. No film tax credit is worth the risk to their lives, livelihoods, and freedoms.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    @germy: He has Lewy body dementia. He gave an interview a few month back on CBS Sunday (video)

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    JPL says:

    We live in a world where my dog doesn’t even flinch when I yell now. sad

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    germy says:

    Two headlines:

    Shot and chaser.👀 pic.twitter.com/sqtM9r0PQH— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) May 15, 2019

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: Doubtful Ted does squat about it. He’s never done anything about it before.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @germy: Bison ranching.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @VeniceRiley: Exactly. I’m not sure its safe to vacation there or travel on business. And I say that as a proud Emory grad who loves Atlanta, except for the traffic.

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    germy says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: I had no idea.

    So Murdoch will outlive him? What a timeline.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    Greetings from the Saudia lounge at the Cairo airport, awaiting our 2 am flight to Paris (it’s after midnight here) Heading home after 9 days in Africa. Highly recommend Egypt to one and all. Except people who get super annoyed by nonstop hassling by cab drivers, carriage drivers, random hangers on, children, old women selling loosies, and so on and so forth. We had such a great time we may come back next year. Also, a shot of Jameson costs $25, so don’t bring your Irish wife.

    I assume you guys fixed the government while I’ve been gone?

    Steve in the CAI

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    Why does this story end with him walking away?

    Because Nancy dots her is and crosses her ts and she does not strike at a king until she knows she will kill him.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    (from the linked article) Interesting, a Five Eyes thing?

    This decision has now placed Canada in the uncomfortable position of being a minority among its partners in the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing community. While Britain has not yet formally banned Huawei, Britain’s main telecom company – BT Group PLC – has announced they will not use Huawei 5G equipment.

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    SFAW says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:
    Lewy body is a pretty sucky thing to have

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    Origuy says:

    The World Games, which are a part of the Olympic movement for sports not in the regular Olympics, is going to be in Birmingham, Alabama in 2021. That would bring a lot of attention, and normally a lot of tourists, to the host city. I know that most of the legislators who voted for the anti-choice bill are from rural districts, but I wonder if the Governor and the rest of the state have considered the impact this will have.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Bill Arnold: Right now, for whatever reason Canada is the odd member out regarding Huawei.

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    germy says:

    This exchange:

    “You’ll have to ask Russia,” is a pretty incredible response from a Senior @StateDept official about the Trump Administration’s views on #Russia’s nuclear capabilities.⁰⁰The Senate Foreign Relations Committee needs answers so we can make informed policy decisions. pic.twitter.com/yt3pfmBzDl— Senator Bob Menendez (@SenatorMenendez) May 15, 2019

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    debbie says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Barr’s contempt for the rule of law is breathtaking.

    Time to disbar Barr!

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    debbie says:

    @Jerzy Russian:

    I’d have liked her to give him one of those sideways claps she gave Trump at the SOTU.

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Boycot CNN and coca cola with explicit emails/ letters saying why.

    And boycot every entertainer who plays in GA

    And pro games–football, golf. And players who go there to compete

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    Jay says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    – Meng Wanzhou extradition case,
    – Chinese lawsuits due to the Harper trade deal with China,
    – Chinese economic retaliation,

    Telus and ABC already use Huawei telecom equiptment and deny there is a security risk.

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    tobie says:

    @Percysowner: Part of me wants all the Democratic candidates to go on FOX and make the case for the impeachment of Trump. It will be the first time any FOX news watcher is exposed to the truth about the Mueller report. I mean that. It may be the only way to break the right-wing news bubble.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @tobie:

    Part of me wants all the Democratic candidates to go on FOX and make the case for the impeachment of Trump.

    Fox would experience technical difficulties where all Democrats saying Trump would be edited to say Hillary instead.

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    SFAW says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I assume you guys fixed the government while I’ve been gone?

    Well, we did — but it got hosed during the site redesign.

    I blame Bill Clinton Obama Hitlary Cole

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I assume you guys fixed the government while I’ve been gone?

    Sorry, the case of rabies is terminal.

    It will have to be put down.

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah:

    Oh, good.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    Oh, no! I hadn’t heard that, and it is a really sucky disease from all I understand. I am so sorry to learn that.

    I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that for the first several years I worked for the Canadian Consulate General in Atlanta, our offices were in CNN Center, and Ted Turner lived in the penthouse in CNN South Tower, on the same elevator bank as our offices. So it wasn’t at all unusual to see him during the course of the day. We had occasional glimpses of Jane Fonda as she moved in with him. I remember one February 14th when I was waiting in line at the convenience store in the building and found myself immediately behind Ted. He had evidently remembered, almost too late, that it was Valentine’s Day and he needed to buy Jane a card and a gift. Hilarious to wait patiently while he paid for the Whitman’s Sampler or whatever and then stood at the counter writing a greeting. I don’t in any way claim to have known him, but he was kind of a fixture at that time and place.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Ladyraxterinok:

    Boycot CNN and coca cola with explicit emails/ letters saying why.

    I hate to recommend FedEx, even by default, but UPS is HQ’d here too.

    Also Chick-Fil-A, but we’re already boycotting them, right?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    ETA: And, of course, Home Depot!

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    rikyrah says:

    👏👏👏

    Zerlina Maxwell (@ZerlinaMaxwell) Tweeted:
    Don’t tell me why you’re doing your Fox News townhall, tell me why you haven’t done one on BET, TVOne, or Telemundo. https://twitter.com/ZerlinaMaxwell/status/1128767471819939841?s=17

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    Van Buren says:

    @germy: Last line of story is genius.

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    Aleta says:

    @Jay: Not up to date, but my understanding was that Huawei is not involved in software for 5G (hardware only); and that at least one of the big Canadian telecom cos doing 5G tests is not working with Huawei. Maybe with Nokia instead? Last summer Ontario papers said that the big co.s that are partnered with Huawei also have other options. Still true?

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    Jay says:

    @Aleta:

    Still true. 5G is still in the planning stage.

    Nokia isn’t a service provider in Canada. They are in Northern Europe, but as a Hardware Provider, they have a vested interest to ban Huawei.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_mobile_phone_companies

    The Big Guys each run their own networks, with overlapping coverage. The Little Guys buy bandwidth off the Big Guys.

    The CRTC sets telecom standards in Canada, not CSIS or the CSE.

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    Mary Ellen Sandahl says:

    @TenguPhule: Realistically speaking, what do you think she should have said and/or done, in that time and place? Hope the thread’s not too dead for you to notice this and reply – I’m definitely curious to know.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Mary Ellen Sandahl:

    Realistically speaking, what do you think she should have said and/or done, in that time and place?

    “Mr. Barr, anything you say can be used against you in a court of law.”

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @TenguPhule:
    You are aware, aren’t you, that the Speaker of the House has no powers of arrest?

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    J R in WV says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Well, Yes, but you don’t have to have powers of arrest to inform a miscreant that anything they say can be used against them when they arrive in the appropriate court of law.

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    Redshift says:

    @tobie:

    Part of me wants all the Democratic candidates to go on FOX and make the case for the impeachment of Trump. It will be the first time any FOX news watcher is exposed to the truth about the Mueller report. I mean that. It may be the only way to break the right-wing news bubble.

    No, it won’t. They’ve been told for weeks that Mueller exonerated Trump, for months that the entire investigation was an effort by Democrats who refuse to accept the results of Trump’s election to unlawfully remove him, and for years that liberals lie and cheat about everything. A Democrat airing on Fox to explain the case for impeachment would just confirm all of those to them.

    Facts don’t have a magical power to cancel out bullshit.

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    SFAW says:

    @J R in WV:

    Well, Yes, but you don’t have to have powers of arrest to inform a miscreant that anything they say can be used against them when they arrive in the appropriate court of law.

    Plus, Speaker Pelosi would want to get one in before the “Court” rules that the arrested need not be Mirandized, if the arresting officer(s) has/have religious objections to doing so, or a “reasonable belief” that the prisoner is guilty.

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