Open Thread

What can I possibly say about the Mueller report today that has not already been said (not to mention I have not read it yet). I did, on the other hand, plant several honeysuckle vines on the exterior of my fence, sorted out the compost pile, and started mulching. All my wisteria I planted last year survived, as did all the blackberry bushes, and they and my trees are all growing.

I’m off to watch the new seasons of Bosch, although a new season of Versailles is on Netflix now, too.

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    West of the Cascades says:

    Sigh. It is a good day to plant things and work in the ground with one’s hands. Which reminds me I need to go out and water my recently-planted veggies, because we are (uncharacteristically) not getting spring rains yet here in Portland.

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    TenguPhule says:

    What can I possibly say about the Mueller report today that has not already been said

    That its good news for the Baud 2020 campaign?

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    TenguPhule says:

    All my wisteria I planted last year survived, as did all the blackberry bushes, and they and my trees are all growing.

    Did you check to see if the willow has in fact moved any closer to the house?

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    TenguPhule says:

    Boston Dynamics latest video shows a herd of robotic dogs hauling a massive truck with ease

    I for one, welcome our new mechanical canine overlords.

    An individual SpotMini can carry only 31 pounds, but they apparently contain enough collective power to pull a vehicle that likely weighs at least 10,000 pounds. It only takes 10 of the 66-pound robots — hitched together like metallic sled dogs and marching with militaristic precision — to get the vehicle rolling.

    That unmistakable power and precision left many of the video’s nearly two million YouTube videos feeling deeply uneasy.

    “Boston Dynamics CEO: “Okay, team. We haven’t freaked out the YouTube crowd in about two weeks,” a viewer named Scott Davidson wrote. “We need to stay on top of it. What have you got?”

    “Wow now that they are making an army all they need to do is give those spots mounted machine guns and the end of the world is near,” another viewer with the name BlitzSterz added.

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    jl says:

    Balloon-Juice blog not even mentioned. Obvious cover up. The crook Barr never even mentioned the blog. What a toady for Big BJ. Did Mueller ever even think about interviewing one John G. Cole?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @TenguPhule: He doesn’t need to. Between the wisteria and the blackberries he’ll be completely overrun in another 2-3 years.

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    opiejeanne says:

    There’s a new season of Bosch? Woohoo!

    We’d be planting stuff today but it was too rainy, and the cleaning ladies were coming over this afternoon so of course we had to clean the house before they got here. Not really, but we do pick up a lot of crap around the house when they’re coming so that they can clean the counters and other horizontal surfaces, and floors and bathrooms.

    The Barr Report, such as it is, is in the hands of experts. For some reason I have found this release of the stupid, redacted Mueller Report has alleviated a lot of anxiety for me. I guess because it’s really up to Congress to deal with this.

    And Steny Hoyer can eat a bag of dicks.

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    HinTN says:

    @Gin & Tonic: And the honeysuckle. Good old JC is assuring his life’s work.

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    raven says:

    @opiejeanne: Watch the Detectorists!

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    lamh36 says:

    Repost here because…WOW!!


    seriously guys…you have GOT to see this commerical…talk about tone-fuq’n-deaf pulled its commercial that made light of the brutalities of slavery thanks to public backlash.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Who in their right mind plants wisteria?

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    Dan B says:

    Jared Yates Sexton has a righteous tweet stream. I believe it’s at Kos. I found it on the first comment on a Trump promotes State TV post at Joe My God. (Sorry I don’t know how to post links using this tablet.)

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Here in the PNW the wisteria isn’t a problem but the blackberries are a massive nuisance. People hire bulldozers to get rid of them. We have a scorched earth policy regarding them, but we haven’t been scorching the earth enough recently. We will have to remove part of a hedge in order to get rid of the blackberries inside a tall hedge plant; it’s important because the blackberry vines are coming out of the top and sides and overwhelming the nice lilac next to the hedge. And lilacs aren’t a problem here, either. I understand they can be very invasive in other parts of the country.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @raven: Already did. I’ve been telling everyone else to watch it.

    Or is there another season of that show? I thought they pretty much wrapped up the whole thing with what was out there last year.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @TenguPhule: West coast people. They are not a problem here.

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    lamh36 says:

    Rachel pointing out that nothing in the report about Trump co financials and that Schiff said all along that he didn’t believe that Mueller and his team was looking at financial ties or implication that they were looking at how Chumps possibly moneylaudering

    Schiff talking on Maddow now about how that could tell how that allowed Russia to compromise Chump co

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    raven says:

    @opiejeanne: There are 3, we had to subscribe via Acorn for season 3. There is also a end of series documentary that is quite good.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @opiejeanne: Well played.

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    oatler. says:

    @opiejeanne: I heroically pulled our the blackberries on my ex’s southern Oregon property and quickly learned what poison oak was. Also what happens when you burn poison oak.

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    Ruviana says:

    @Dan B: Also at LGM in non-twitter format for easy reading.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @opiejeanne: By the way, in response to yesterday’s thread about Union Square – you can see the drummer in a little patch of sun at the lower right starting at about 35 seconds in. A bit after that it zooms in enough that you can see a sax player.

    Interestingly, this was the first use of a computer-controlled zoom, I believe. That’s why the shot is so smooth.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @HinTN: True. That combinations’s an urban/suburban jungle in pretty short order. He’ll need to have a chainsaw in good working order and a trencher to take out what’s underground (not at all a suggestion of likely success).

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    NotMax says:

    Cut to the chase already and plant kudzu.


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    lamh36 says:

    Maddow will be interviewing Andrew McCabe up next.

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    TenguPhule says:


    Also what happens when you burn poison oak.

    oh dear.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @NotMax: And bamboo.

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    TenguPhule says:


    Cut to the chase already and plant kudzu.

    Gonna need a bigger goat rodeo.

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    cmorenc says:


    @Gin & Tonic: Who in their right mind plants wisteria?

    People who are too chicken-shit to plant running bamboo, that’s who.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    And bamboo.

    That’s actually tasty when you eat the shoots.

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    It is supposed to rain on Sunday, so hopefully Saturday I’ll get the fertilizer down and get the vegetable gardens prepped.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @TaMara (HFG):

    so hopefully Saturday I’ll get the fertilizer down and get the vegetable gardens prepped.

    Thereby ensuring it actually rains on Saturday.

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    NotMax says:

    @Gin & Tonic

    The posts about his property being overrun with foraging pandas will be epic.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Income “insufficiency”, not inequality, is to blame for the widening gap between rich and poor, private equity titan Steve Schwarzman said on Thursday, becoming the latest billionaire to publicly worry about the issue.

    The CEO of Blackstone and former Trump adviser outlined what he called a Marshall plan for the middle class on cable channel CNBC – referencing the US initiative that aided the rebuilding of western Europe after the second world war.

    Schwarzman’s plan would eliminate taxes for teachers, introduce a higher minimum wage and more technical training for people who don’t go to college.

    Its not pissing on the poor, its trickle down!

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @TenguPhule: Welcome back.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Ohio Mom: Thank you.

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    Jay says:


    That’s actually how you keep bamboo from being invasive.

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    Gvg says:

    I have bamboo invading from a neighbors yard. Planting wisteria on purpose….oh my. I am also killing blackberries. The world sure is full of problem plants. Tomorrow is the members only native plant sale. I have been attending about 25 years but I have a new yard to start over and just got a text that it may be cancelled if the possible severe thunderstorm comes through. Really hope the sale happens.

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    HeleninEire says:

    I read the Bosch books until they jumped the shark. SPOILER… When the mother of his child got gunned down.

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    piratedan says:

    McCabe saying that there’s wasn’t enough linkage to prove cahoooting, despite the fact that Trump asked HRC/DCC to be hacked and 5 hours later the GRU complied with their attempts…

    I’m wandering what the fuck this guy needs, all five senses accommodated?

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    Duane says:

    @NotMax: Multiflora rose grows well in West Virginia. Cole should plant that too.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @oatler.: My mother was furious with her own mother for burning poison ivy in her incinerator in her back yard when we were visiting. It was summer in Independence, MO, hot and sticky so my sister and I were wearing lightweight shirts and shorts, probably barefoot. I was about 6 or 7 and we had the rash everywhere, arms, legs, face, in our armpits, even in my hair. We had run through the smoke from the incinerator to get away from the suddenly smoky backyard when the breeze shifted. That was back when Caladryl did not exist and the only thing anyone thought to use was calamine lotion, which does nothing for the itch. She practically bathed us in the stuff.

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    Salty Sam says:

    That reminds me, I need to go organize my compost pile…

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Thanks. That is a wonderful shot. I think we will track down the movie and watch it this weekend. I know it’s on YouTube but the quality is poor and I’d rather watch it on one Netflix or somewhere else, if I can find it.

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    lamh36 says:

    Repost…cause it was so good I had to share again!

    Here’s a picture of the gumbo I made!!!

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Bamboo is a massive problem in Southern California, and we’ve avoided it like the plague after watching my dad and uncle struggle to rid my grandmother’s yard of the stuff. They were to blame for it being there. I think they planted it when they were teenagers. The last attempt finally succeeded because my uncle dug a huge, deep pit, maybe 12 feet deep and much wider to get all of the roots.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @opiejeanne: The movie holds up very well. Hackman is magnificent, and has rated it one of his favorites – maybe because he plays so much against type. I have it on Blu-Ray, but I’m kind of obsessed with it.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @HeleninEire: That book was too much, but the more recent ones are much better, closer to what the earlier books were like.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Duane: Bad Duane. Very bad. No cookie for you.

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    divF says:

    @lamh36: Yum!

    Gumbo is a favorite around here. I use a recipe from Cookin’ with Queen Ida .

    A major innovation in this area has been cooking roux in a cast-iron pot in the oven, rather than on the stovetop. Instead of standing over a stove for two hours and constantly stirring the roux to keep it from burning, you need only check it and give it a stir every 20 minutes or so.

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    eemom says:

    Beautiful full moon spring evening here in NoVA. The universe is well pleased.

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    lamh36 says:

    @divF: well, I don’t use a recipe per se…

    I had chicken breast, shrimp and cajun sausage…what I didn’t have was other ingredient my family likes to use, and the flour for a roux.

    But didn’t feel like buying a whole thing of flour for just one use, so I cheated and bought and used a local pre-made roux gravy mix.

    Still came out the same as a roux from scratch so I’m really happy with it!

    Plus I do like a roux gravy with my chicken or other stuff still have more of that

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    It’s a great movie.

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    Jay says:


    We buy white flour in a 2 cup “shaker” container for gravys and sauces. Lasts for months.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Up with a spell of insomnia after five hours of solid sleep. Still o dark hundred here.

    So: did anything interesting happen today?

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    hotshoe says:

    @opiejeanne: I can hardly believe wisteria vines are a problem anywhere. Not invasive.
    And easy to prune to any size — well, if you don’t mind the small risk of killing next year’s blooms by pruning too hard — they can be pruned to a self-standing trunk without needing a trellis support.
    It’s not like honeysuckle which not only roots as it goes but will send exploratory tendrils up between the siding and frame of your house until they find a space to come back out the top.
    Ask me how I know that. :(

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @lamh36: pulled its commercial that made light of the brutalities of slavery thanks to public backlash.

    is that the one that’s affiliated with the Mormons?

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    lamh36 says:

    2h2 hours ago
    The Special Counsel’s report in no way exonerates @realDonaldTrump. In fact, it implicates him in criminal activity. Congress has an obligation to act like the separate branch of gov’t it is and conduct serious oversight of this administration. Everything should be on the table.

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    divF says:

    @lamh36: I would definitely use a good pre-made roux mix if they carried it around here, and make gumbo more often. At least there is a butcher here that makes pretty good andouille sausage.

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    MomSense says:

    A day outside in the garden sounds lovely.

    Some types of honeysuckle are very toxic to dogs. Thought I’d mention this in case the garden center folks didn’t say anything to you about it.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I don’t know…is it?

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    lamh36 says:

    Alright final non-political comment of the night…

    Ya’ll gotta know the main reason I’m interested in this lates film is cause of forever BAE Idris Elba, add in The Rock and Jason Statham…and I’ll happily see this one in the theatres…and I havent’ seen more than maybe 3 of any of the FF franchise and aren’t they on like #7?

    Anyhoo…enjoy trailer 2 for Hobbs & Shaw

    Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw – Official Trailer #2 via @YouTube

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    Hoyer had to walk back his earlier comments.

    Good. Impeachment shouldn’t be off the table.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @hotshoe: In this reason wisteria may take down a trellis after a few years of growth when the vines get heavy and will grow right up any wall it’s too close to, so it’s a lot like honeysuckle, except it doesn’t age into a large shade bush. I think all parts of it are toxic to people and pets.

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    khead says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Heh. That didn’t take long. Good.

    Also, I enjoyed The Hoarse Whisperer’s responses.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think they all are affiliated with the Mormons, one way or another.

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    rekoob says:

    A thought — the House indicts, the Senate convicts. I believe the Chief Justice presides over the Senate trial. Given that CJ Roberts is not known to be a close follower of the President, perhaps the Senate trial would be more circumspect than the current divide suggests. Moreover, I could possibly imagine CJ Roberts, in the spirit of co-equal, independent branches, might pass on presiding over the Senate trial in favor of the senior-most Justice appointed by the opposite party, namely, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. It may not affect the outcome, but we know that trial judges can often set the pace (for example, Judge Ellis and Paul Manafort). Here’s hoping!

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    opiejeanne says:

    there are certain plants that should be illegal to sell in California, such as creeping fig. It’s so pretty until it matures and then the charming little leaves that were the size of a penny become big and leathery, and the vines that were a pretty tracery on the wall of your house suddenly gets beefy and will tear your house apart. We had it coming up inside the living room against the wall. A neighbor had it lift his roof tiles.
    Another one is giant morning glory. Ipomeia. Large purple/blue flowers but it’s like Kudzu in SoCal.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Elizabelle: Why? Did you hear any news from this side of the pond? 😁

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    different-church-lady says:

    I’d like to thank everyone who sent encouragement my way this afternoon on an earlier open thread. But I’m afraid I might have been slightly misleading: I’m actually feeling pretty well today. What I was remarking on is how odd it was to be able to see my dysfunctional mood from earlier in the week with such clarity. It wasn’t just snapping out of it — it was being able to look back and actually comprehend how my thought process had gotten so irrational. I was seeing how my mood had commandeered my reasoning and was leading me to faulty conclusions that I actually believed in. It was a revelatory experience.

    I guess it was the first time I’ve ever been able to perceive how convincing a liar depression can be.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @opiejeanne: Any chance this creeping fig will creep itself into the kitchen and bake itself into some newtons?

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    MomSense says:


    Glad you are feeling well today.

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    Mary G says:

    @opiejeanne: Bamboo is still the worst in my book, though morning glory will still grow here in SoCal after we are all long dead, and even after Kim gets mad at Pompeo for over-swaggering and nukes us.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @mrmoshpotato: @mrmoshpotato: The fruit is used in Asian cuisine but it takes a lot of fussing, according to Wikipedia, but it needs a particular insect to pollenate its flowers, and the insect may not live in SoCal. The sap of the vines is toxic and can give you a nasty rash.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Mary G: The only way anyone should ever plant it in SoCal is in a large pot set on pavement, away from cracks and joints. Even then I’d caution against it.

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    Duane says:

    @opiejeanne: My insidious invasive plant plan has been perfectly propagated. Cole makes the perfect patsy. Behold the elegant evil!

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    Mai Naem mobile says:

    @lamh36: I want Mazie Hirono and Brian Schatz to be my Senators. I want them to run for POTUS. Move over, Russia lover Tulsi.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @opiejeanne: Bummer. I was hoping for self-preparing, self-baking fig newtons for you.

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    Dan B says:

    @Ruviana: The Joe My God version was nit in twitter format. I was blown away by the clarity of analysis. It was like a steady drumbeat drawing you in. None of the parsing and political speak. Was the LGM response good? The JMG comments were like: Pulitzer! Nobel! Sainthood!

    Must read again!

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Duane: Isn’t a wall-shaking MWHAHAHAHA required for such an evil plan?

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    normal liberal says:

    I had no idea that people planted honeysuckle intentionally. I’ve got an infestation that resists all eradication efforts.
    Next, Mr. Cole will start a little patch of mint to use for cooking.

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    NotMax says:

    @Mai Naem mobile

    I want Mazie Hirono and Brian Schatz to be my Senators.

    “We’re not full.”
      – Hawaii


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    Peale says:

    @Patricia Kayden: yep. I don’t get this one at all. I could understand things a little post Bush. A lot of Democrat Office hilders went along with the Gulf War and knew what was going on in Cuba. I could understand somewhat not coming down harder on the banks. A lot of Democrats went along with Graham Leach Bliely that created the TBTF Banks. So it’s kind of a understandable in a cynical Living in Glass Houses kind of way. But this? Maybe this s standard behavior for all presidents. Like the Dems plan on asking Russia to help them next time. Or they’ve got Xi on speed dial and he’s building them a bot Army. As far as I can tell, though, there isn’t a Democrat Roger Stone or Sean Hannity who’d be worth protecting. There’s no “whatabout Hillary” or “It started under Carter” to stifle the curiosity of Dem House members.

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    Dan B says:

    @hotshoe: In the PNW wisteria needs heavy pruning yearly if it’s been allowed to grow large. My landscape const crew had to remove it from an old garage it had filled by growing between the slab and the walls and through cracks in the concrete walls. It was growing through the garage window. At one client’s mini estate it strangled a 100 foot tall Doug Fir. It grew to the top. When the tree came down you could easily see where it had compressed the trunk. The depressions were three inches deep. It was a white Japanese Wisteria with three foot long flower bracts that opened slowly and gracefully from the top down. And fragrant!

    I love it in other peoples gardens.

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    Duane says:

    @mrmoshpotato: Thank you. Perhaps you could be of assistance. How close are you to West Virginia?

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    Aleta says:

    @different-church-lady: Much respect for your description (which I copied to keep) and for getting through

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    TomatoQueen says:

    @Patricia Kayden: Agree. Like many here, I lived through Watergate, but I don’t think in that age we knew what we were made of until some people were given the chance to show it: Senator Sam, Jill Ben-Veniste, Judge Sirica, that girl Hillary, Peter Rodino, Barbara Jordan (dog what I’d give for just a few more moments of her mightiness) and many others showed themselves more than up to the task and I think some in the present day are the same. Of course they’re reluctant. Of course it’s an incredible risk. But at the time John Dean said there was a cancer on the presidency, and not too long ago Carl Bernstein said there was a criminal enterprise being run out of the Nixon White House. Today, the risk of the latter is so much greater: if today’s revelations are true, we are relying on people with clearances ignoring directions from their boss to prevent further illegality of multiple unknown kinds. The country is at risk and impeachment it must be.

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    Dan B says:

    @MomSense: Is the toxin from the berries/fruit? Lots of plants are toxic but few appeal to pets, unkess you have pet sheep, cows… Same applies for children.

    There are lots of plants with toxic foliage but rare to cause problems. It’s like flying. The car to the airport is more likely to get you. At the same time berries are an attractive hazard.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Duane: How close is WV to the Great Lakes?

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    Bnut says:

    Wisteria? You will regret this decision. You know nothing John Cole.

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    Dan B says:

    @Patricia Kayden: Great news! But Hoyer gets to wear the wimp hat twice. I support strategy but avoiding doing the right, legal, and constitutional thing is not a winning strategy. Saying you have reservations but you have a duty the American people is a strategy. Other options are a surrender.

    Cue meme of Hoyer waving white flag and sweating bullets.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @different-church-lady: I’m happy to hear you’re improving. Depression is a sneaky condition, and mood can absolutely agree affect thought process in a way that’s dangerously dysfunctional. Likewise the high part of bipolar depression can cause irrational thoughts and behavior.

    I’ll talk much too much for many people’s taste on the topic soon.

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    Keith P. says:

    @lamh36: Jason Statham won me over with “Spy”. Face-off machine lol

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I love his performance in Enemy of the State, and the description of The Conversation reminds me of Enemy. The business with his orange tomcat made it even better.

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    Cacti says:

    Have Bernie and Mayor Pete voiced their support for Trump yet, or are they waiting till tomorrow?

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    smintheus says:

    You’re going to regret that wisteria. I speak from bitter experience.

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    StringOnAStick says:

    Wisteria can grow in huge and fabulous classic French or Italian classical gardens, with crews of paid landscape professionals. Mere mortals with less than 10 acres or a superstructure similarly built to cargo ship specifications with regret it mightily in 10 years. It is one of those Scorcer’s Apprentice plants

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    Politically, the interesting thing to watch will be how the Bernie camp comes down on all this. A lot if them previously were the types who insisted that the Trump-Russia story was wildly overblown or a hoax. Greenwald is doubling down on that. But the socialists I follow elsewhere are more in the AOC/Omar camp, dumping on the Democratic leadership for not going hard enough on this. (They also tend to prefer Warren over Sanders, but not all do.) So which way does Bernie go and who follows?

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    Catching the end of Jimmy Fallon waiting for the start of Late Night with Seth Meyers. Fallon has parts of his ending credit redacted. Fallon can still go fuck himself.

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    2liberal says:

    where’s adam?

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Dan B: I didn’t know wisteria is a problem here. We had it in Anaheim and it was a slow grower. We did remove a lot of it that a previous owner had woven through some shade lattices at the edge of the patio. We ended up taking down the lattice because there was no other way to cut it out, and we did have to get onto the roof to remove the vines where it was starting to creep under the shingles, but the previous owner had neglected it for years. We kept an eye on it after that but I didn’t consider it anywhere near the pest that Ipomeia is. A neighbor planted it and it came over the wall and if it had been content to just grow on the wall we wouldn’t have minded, but when we bought the place it had completely swamped an area of the yard that had once been a rose garden. some of the plants were still there but they were struggling mightily. also, we didn’t realize that we owned a young lemon tree because it was so thoroughly covered in vines. .

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    Jay says:

    “Facebook is partnering with an extreme right-wing website’s fact-checking arm, a move that is generating condemnation from both mainstream and progressive critics.

    Axios reported on Wednesday that Facebook would be working with The Daily Caller’s for-profit fact-checker website Check Your Fact to uncover bias and false statements in stories on the social media site. “

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    laura says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I couldn’t shed any light on your questions about that shot, but what a deeply unsettling movie, and the subtlety, you’re right that it stands up over the years. Jean Hackman’s performance was great; in a career of solid work; as was Cindy Williams.’
    Will seek it out for a rewatch in the insomnia hours.
    I cant wait for tomorrow afternoon for some yard work and music, and Easter cooking to soothe my deep unease.
    Perilous times gives me an urgent need to do something grounding and the holiday traditions are sure convenient.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Jay: NAZI FACT CHECKERS! Will they only be checking facts about Nazis? The fuck? Still not regretting never signing up for Facebook.

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    Jay says:


    In New West, I built a yellow cedar fence, with an upper ornate trellis.

    We planted and trained wysteria, clematis, honeysuckle, kiwi’s and heritage climbing roses, ( the fragrant ones). No problemo, for any of them as long as they were all pruned.

    A lot of people don’t know how to prune, or think that every 5 years, you bring in an arbourist to pollard the trees.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @laura: @Gin & Tonic: @opiejeanne: Stop making me want to find my copy and watch it! :-P

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    Jay says:


    There was an article a little while ago, that noted that The Book of Faces out sources it’s “policing” to minimum wage contractors, who in short order, suffer from PSTD from viewing content, or themselves, become radicalized.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Jay: I remember reading about that (probably from here). But really, The Daily Caller? Why don’t they just rename themselves to Nazibook or Trumptrashbook?

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    Jay says:


    Because the Daily Stormer and all the other cool Nazi names are already taken and trademarked.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Now I’m wondering if the Republicans deliberately waited until Nancy left for Ireland before releasing the report, hoping that one of her underlings would screw up the response.

    It does seem quite indicative that they waited for her to leave the country before they tried this rollout.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Mnemosyne: Why would they do that? They released it in a readily readable format – CD-ROM!

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    Steeplejack says:

    Saw this in my (ex-Navy) RWNJ brother’s Facebook feed: file under “pet problems.”

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Dan B:

    If you can’t do a link, maybe at least mention the @nym so people can find it. (In this case, @JYSexton.) Sometimes, if people have a common name, it’s hard to find them that way.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Steeplejack: The Russkies deserved it! Damn that’s a big walrus (or maybe I just don’t know walri sizes).

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    Steeplejack says:


    A major innovation in this area has been cooking roux in a cast-iron pot in the oven, rather than on the stovetop.

    That’s how Alton Brown does it. Instructions and video (for shrimp gumbo) here.

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    Aleta says:

    @mrmoshpotato: Do it.
    And Terri Garr, John Cazale. The shots and the edits.

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    Steeplejack says:


    When you really need to launch that Trident and the hatch won’t open . . .

    ETA: Like a gigantic cat that smells like dead fish. What could go wrong?

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    Steeplejack says:


    They released it in a readily readable format—CD-ROM!

    Can’t remember if it was posted here, but this was gold on Twitter today:

    @mattsgorman: “Breaking: The Mueller report CD-ROM will also contain 12 free hours of America Online.”

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Jay: They’re not even pretending anymore.

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    NotMax says:


    The deluxe edition comes with a choice of Chinese malware.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Steeplejack: @Aleta: Russians launch chewing gum that’s good for the teeth from their submarines? Weirdos.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Steeplejack: Only 12 hours free AOL, not 12 years? AOL has definitely gone cheap on us.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Steeplejack: I think America’s Test Kitchen also did roux in the oven recently. (Can’t have too many YouTube cooking channel in your feed.)

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Aleta: Too late to start a movie here. I’ll probably watch it tomorrow night. *shakes fist at guilty parties* (It’s damn good from what I remember.)

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    Dan B says:

    @opiejeanne: I’ll post this tomorrow if you don’t catch it at night owl time zone.

    Wisteria is fine here with yearly pruning from a young age or with super strong, and regularly maintained, trellis. But they will grow to enormous size if you let them. The wisteria that strangled a 100 foot Fir had been growing for 25 years. When they get big the root system can support 4 to 8 feet of growth horizontally per year, in every direction of th compass. If they get no summer irrigation they will grow less. They can fix nitrogen so poor soil doesn’t slow them down much.

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    cain says:

    @West of the Cascades:

    Sigh. It is a good day to plant things and work in the ground with one’s hands. Which reminds me I need to go out and water my recently-planted veggies, because we are (uncharacteristically) not getting spring rains yet here in Portland.

    Seems like it rained fairly good the last week. It’s not the usual rain though. BTW, how many of us PDX Juicers do we have other than you and I? Maybe we can do a Portland meet up?

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    cain says:


    I have bamboo invading from a neighbors yard. Planting wisteria on purpose….oh my. I am also killing blackberries. The world sure is full of problem plants. Tomorrow is the members only native plant sale. I have been attending about 25 years but I have a new yard to start over and just got a text that it may be cancelled if the possible severe thunderstorm comes through. Really hope the sale happens.

    Looks like the trees from The Lorax :-)

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