Tuesday Morning Open Thread: Got Summer Vacation Plans?

I am (perhaps overly) sensitive to the charge that I’m prejudiced towards my personal favorite Senator — and, boilerplate: I will do everything in my power to support the eventual Democratic nominee — but damn, Elizabeth Warren does not get the credit she deserves!

Everything in this proposal is noteworthy, but giving lower-income families more of a chance to enjoy national parks is *not* a small thing, if we want support for those parks to be more than ‘a little perk for white totebaggers’…


Supplementary reads:

Moira Donegan, at the Guardian, “Elizabeth Warren is the intellectual powerhouse of the Democratic party”:

There’s still nearly a year to go before the Iowa caucuses, the first contest of the Democratic presidential primary, but the media has already counted Senator Elizabeth Warren out. The conventional wisdom has rapidly devolved from declaring her a frontrunner when she announced her bid on New Year’s Eve to confident assertions that her campaign is dead in the water, out-raised and out-charmed by the white male candidates – Bernie, Biden, Beto and Buttigieg – whose presidential bids have dominated the first months of the contest…

But since her initial announcement in December, Warren’s campaign has rolled out a series of detailed policy proposals in quick succession, outlining structural changes to major industries, government functions, and regulatory procedures that would facilitate more equitable representation in the federal government and overhaul the economy in favor of the working class. These policy proposals have made Warren the Democratic party’s new intellectual center of gravity, a formidable influence who is steadily pushing the presidential primary field to the left and forcing all of her primary challengers to define their political positions against hers…

Peter Beinart, at the Atlantic, “Elizabeth Warren Had Charisma, and Then She Ran for President”:

An article last month in The Week noted that Warren “doesn’t do uplift, which is what people mean when they grumble about her lack of ‘charisma’ and ‘energy.’” In a recent story about Warren’s fundraising trouble, The New York Times suggested that she was suffering because Democrats’ “longstanding fascination with youthful charisma—along with its current, Trump-driven fixation on electability—can outweigh qualities like experience or policy expertise.”

What happened? Warren may be a victim of what scholars of women’s leadership call the “double bind”: For female candidates, it’s difficult to come across as competent and charismatic at the same time. To be considered charismatic, leaders must be both appealing and inspiring, both likable and visionary. Unfortunately for women who seek positions of power, they’re rarely perceived as possessing these characteristics while also being deemed competent to do the job.

Since announcing her campaign for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, Warren has worked harder than any other candidate to prove she’s ready to govern. She’s laid out proposals on taxation, government corruption, prescription drugs, housing, and even “postal banking,” all of which has led the Times to describe her strategy as “Stand Out by ‘Nerding Out.’”…

As a lifelong nerd (some of whose fondest childhood memories involve visits to National Park properties, such as nerd Teddy Roosevelt’s birthplace), I will do my best to ensure the haterz and jock-sniffers among the horse-race media touts find themselves forced to eat these words!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    That reminds me, time to send her some more $.

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    NotMax says:

    Shall probably catch hell for this, so allow me to preface it by saying I like Warren (although she is not my first choice at this point). However she does seem to have yet to master the fine art of talking to an audience as opposed to talking at an audience.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    The Life of Brian turns 40:

    EMI was going to finance the film, but got cold feet. It was a mortal blow, because we were already in pre-production. So Eric went to Hollywood and pitched it to George Harrison, who had been a huge Python fan since the first TV programme. He pawned his house and arranged a loan of $5m. When he was asked why, he just said: “Because I want to see it.” Not many people pay $5m for an admission ticket.

    -Michael Palin

    The protests in New York were really vigorous. We managed to get the Catholics, the Protestants and the Jews all pissed off at us. The crucifixion scene did it every time. Christians seem to take crucifixion as theirs alone, never mind that it was done to a lot of non-Christians. My own mother, who was a real churchgoer, couldn’t see what people were getting angry about, because it was about somebody else called Brian. It wasn’t blasphemy.

    I was very proud we achieved that much of a reaction. They were the people we were after: those who blindly follow religious diktats and don’t think for themselves.

    -Terry Gilliam

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    Aleta says:

    (NYT) The National Rifle Association sued one of its largest and most enduring contractors late last week ….

    The suit was filed late Friday by the N.R.A. in Virginia, where it is based, against Ackerman McQueen, the Oklahoma ad firm that operates NRATV, the group’s incendiary online media arm. The suit asserts that Ackerman has concealed details from the N.R.A. about how the company is spending the roughly $40 million that it and its affiliates receive annually from the association.

    The suit creates uncertainty about (Oliver) North’s future at the organization. And it leaves the future of NRATV in doubt, given the new acrimony in the Ackerman relationship.

    Since Ackerman created NRATV in 2016, it has often been “perceived by the public as the voice of the N.R.A.,” according to the rifle association’s complaint. It has also taken on an apocalyptic tone, warning of race wars, calling for a march on the Federal Bureau of Investigation and portraying the talking trains in the children’s show “Thomas & Friends” in Ku Klux Klan hoods.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: How dare you criticize the fine and upstanding Senator from Ver… Oh, wait a minute, carry on.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Aleta: I’m rooting for injuries.

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    NotMax says:

    @Aleta

    NRA: High caliber weapons for low caliber people.

    It has also taken on an apocalyptic tone, warning of race wars, calling for a march on the Federal Bureau of Investigation and portraying the talking trains in the children’s show “Thomas & Friends” in Ku Klux Klan hoods.

    Presume the suit claims the TV operation is soft pedaling the messages? //

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    Baud says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    We managed to get the Catholics, the Protestants and the Jews all pissed off at us. 

    I’m stuggling to remember a religious protest that I thought was actually righteous.

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    Baud says:

    @NotMax:

    warning of race wars, 

    I miss when they claimed to be colorblind.

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    Aleta says:

    (Manitou Cave)
    Cave Markings Tell of Cherokee Life in the Years Before Indian Removal (Smithsonian Mag)
    Written in the language formalized by Sequoyah, these newly translated inscriptions describe religious practices, including the sport of stickball

    … …
    “Cavers have been going in caves in the Southeast for a really long time, looking for more prehistoric artwork,” says Beau Carroll, the lead author of the study and an archaeologist with the tribal historic preservation office of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. “For you to be able to pick out actual syllabary you have to be familiar with it. I think it’s all over the place. It’s just that nobody’s been looking for it.”

    Sequoyah, a Cherokee silversmith and scholar, … thought it would be useful for the Cherokee to have a written language, and he invented a syllabary—easier to learn than an alphabet—made up of symbols for all 85 syllables in the spoken language. After its adoption as the Cherokee Nation’s formal writing system, the syllabary went into wide use. The first Native American newspaper, the Cherokee Phoenix, was published in syllabary and English starting in February 1828.

    “The syllabary is a new innovation in Cherokee society, and it’s occurring at the same moment the U.S. government is adamantly pushing its ‘civilization’ policy—it wants them to Christianize, it wants them to seek English-language education, it wants them to change their gender roles relative to farming so that men are farming and women are relegated to the home,” says Reed.

    Not all of the syllabary translations from Manitou Cave have been included in the paper. Carroll says he consulted with fellow community members to decide what texts should and should not be published for a non-Cherokee audience, as inscriptions contain descriptions of spiritual ceremonies that were not intended for public consumption.

    The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians contributed funds for a strong steel gate at the cave entrance to protect the inscriptions.

    The authors of the study have emphasized the importance of the collaboration between white archaeologists and Cherokee scholars in studying the inscriptions.

    “We would not have been able to develop as rich and textured a vision of what this archaeological record means without collaborating with our Native American colleagues,” says Simek.

    “Cherokee people are still here, we haven’t gone anywhere, we’re interested in our history and we can contribute to science and this paper’s proof of that,” Carroll says. “It doesn’t make any sense to me to do all this historical research and archaeology but you don’t include the living descendants of the people you’re studying.”

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    Baud says:

    I like the free national park idea, but some parks already suffer from severe overcrowding. Need a plan to manage that or it’ll be a mess.

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    NotMax says:

    @Baud

    Warsaw ghetto uprising?

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    Elizabelle says:

    Mayor Pete is big full color photo at top of front page of Die Welt (daily newspaper) today with caption “Der Anti-Trump.”

    That honor goes far more to Elizabeth Warren, in my book, although am not slamming Mayor Buttigieg. EW’s books and career and work establishing the CFPB are a rebuke to Trump/GOP family values, or lack thereof.

    I am proud of her, and support her and most Democratic leading lights.

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

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    Baud says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Really, almost all of the candidates are anti-Trump in some way.

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    Aleta says:

    @NotMax: Or maybe it says they are shocked, shocked.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Did Eliabeth Warren’s charisma as a candidate and Senator suddenly go poof! when she became a candidate for President? She may not be the most exciting stump speaker* around. But I have seen no reports that people are left cold by their one-on-one interactions with her; just as I never saw any such reports about Hillary. It seems to me that Beinart is making an effort to define away Warren’s charisma (and to some extent Hillary’s) by arguing that showing competence erodes a woman’s charisma. Which strikes me as bullshit.

    ETA:
    * Not exactly a POTUS’ most important or most useul skill. It’s the only presidential skill Trump and Sanders can claim.

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    ola azul says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I’m rooting for injuries.

    It’s all fun and games till you shoot your lawyer in the face with birdshot.

    (Whereupon your lawyer will dutifully apologize to *you* for interposing his face betwixt you and your drunken aim — if you’re a Republican.)

    Also, too: Wouldn’t it be grand if Ollie North got his long-deserved comeuppance, albeit 40-odd years belated? If ever there was a poster-boy template for insolently brazening it out till you become a folk hero to the fascist-curious, he were it.

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    NotMax says:

    @Elizabelle

    Would really like to see her unshackled in a D controlled Senate. Personally feel her strengths lie more in being a navigator rather than at the helm.

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    Aleta says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning 🦚

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: Don’t ask me, I’m an atheist.

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    JR says:

    Whatever Warren’s presidential prospects — not looking good right now — her run has been incredibly valuable for mainstreaming some very strong policy proposals.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    To be considered charismatic, leaders must be both appealing and inspiring, both likable and visionary. Unfortunately for women who seek positions of power, they’re rarely perceived as possessing these characteristics while also being deemed competent to do the job.

    This suggests sexism prevents the recognition of charisma among women. I don’t think this is true. We just had a bumper crop of charismatic women who have taken politics by storm: Stacy Abrams, AOC, Tlalib, Sharice Davids, Deb Haaland, Ayanna Pressley, Omar, Kyrsten Sinema, Lauren Underwood, Katie Hill, Katie Porter, Gretchen Whitmer, Abigail Spanberger.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    It seems to me that Beinart is making an effort to define away Warren’s charisma (and to some extent Hillary’s) by arguing that showing competence erodes a woman’s charisma.

    Dingdingding… we have a winner. And no, I don’t understand the compulsion to see women this way either. I find her quite compelling.

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    ola azul says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Peter “Oops-on-Iraq” Beinart ain’t exactly who I’d be looking at for guidance on what constitutes charisma. That said, on the larger issue of women prez candidates and their suppose lack of charisma, think it’s instructive to go in the way-back machine and remember how absolutely popular and universally admired a certain Hillary Clinton was — until she started running for the presidency.

    As your garden-variety white male in these here Yoo-nited States of ‘Murica in the benighted year of 2019, the undeniable (to me, anyway) n positively disgraceful aspect of alla this hand-wringing is the extent to which misogynistic attitudes (both overt and unacknowledged) plays in the elevation of the mediocre on the male side and the suppression of excellence on the female end of the spectrum.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Mayor Pete’s French-Fu just generated a impressive viral moment (2.1 million views in 12 hours) (link)

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    ola azul says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    Fair enough. Point taken. Conceded.

    ‘Cept they weren’t running for prez.

    To put it in bald, crass terms, thinks there’s a large component of the electorate (to our shame) that don’t want no woman to be the boss of them.

    (Same dynamic with race, just slightly less virulent. Imo.)

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    Baud says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    Meh. I can use Google translate too.

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    satby says:

    I really wish Warren was doing better too, but I think her age works against her a bit as well. Not to me, but there’s just too much talk about younger, fresher faces which hits all the oldest politicians in (and not declared yet). Which is also unfair, because she’s much more vital than the other two. Smarter too. I hope however the race goes, the eventual real (as opposed to media) front runner adopts a lot of Warren’s policy proposals if it’s not her.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Amir Khalid: @NotMax:
    I’ve seen her in person a number of times — she was the graduation speaker one year at my school. She is actually very engaging, funny and warm on the stump. Sure, she produces some fire and can be nerdy, but it’s wrapped in common sense with real obvious and not-fake caring. Quite “homey.”

    Hmmmm. I wonder where the idea that she is not charismatic and is a hectoring school marm comes from? People who see her do not think that.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Speaking of feminists and charisma, Emma Watson (Hermione Granger) has become an amazing style icon (photo)

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    MomSense says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I wish you were covering politics for one of our big news operations. The sexism is constant and it is highly effective. The media are angling hard for the candidates who are like them and who see the world like they do and it is affecting the standing and fundraising of the candidates. It’s basically all white B named men all the time.

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    ola azul says:

    @NotMax:

    Without Worsley, Shackleton don’t make er to Elephant Is. much less South Georgia.

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    satby says:

    @Immanentize:

    I wonder where the idea that she is not charismatic and is a hectoring school marm comes from? People who see her do not think that.

    From the same predominantly white male reporters who labeled (libeled?) Hillary with the same idea. Including the one I fought with on line for almost a year about her voice being “annoying”.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @satby:

    the eventual real (as opposed to media) front runner adopts a lot of Warren’s policy proposals if it’s not her.

    Somebody recently said that while she may not become president, she is putting together the Democratic party platform.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Mayor Pete is big full color photo at top of front page of Die Welt (daily newspaper) today with caption “Der Anti-Trump.”

    Why, because he’s sexually attracted to men instead of his own daughter? Sure isn’t much difference in their “restore the white race to it’s rightful glory” platforms.

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    MomSense says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    If any one of those women seek higher office it will happen to them, too. This is a common phenomenon. When Hillary was SoS she was the most popular politician in the country by a lot. As soon as she sought higher office the coverage changed. This is a common occurrence in the business world, too. Women are great employees until they vie for a promotion and then all the qualities that were great become evidence of their conniving or being power hungry.

    We just had why is Biden so far ahead at 27% in Iowa. Hillary got why is she only at 42% in Iowa.

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    ola azul says:

    @Chyron HR:

    Why, because he’s sexually attracted to men instead of his own daughter? Sure isn’t much difference in their “restore the white race to it’s rightful glory” platforms.

    Will confess, trying to be charitable here and not jump to conclusions. But when I read what you wrote, it *sounds* like you are conflating Trump and Buttagiegieg as exemplars and avatars of white ethno-nationalism.

    Are you purposely *trying* to do that? (Which would be both weird and fucked up.) Or is there some other explanation I’m missing?

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    Immanentize says:

    @satby:
    Sadly, but not surprisingly, Jon Judis writing at TPM is one of them.. He declares Buttigieg “the smartest person in class” based on his schooling and language capacity. He relegates Warren to one who “could challenge Buttigieg for being the smartest person in class.”

    That is some very biased and unintelligible commentary.

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    MomSense says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    This same attitude is why we have so few women CEOs, too.

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    Baud says:

    @satby:

    Yep, all those cool lefty kids who thought they bond with their Republican dads in hating only Hillary in 2016 are finding out their dads have other things in mind.

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    Immanentize says:

    @MomSense:
    It is making me despair rather than making me angry today. But I’ll get angry again, I’m certain.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    ‘Here come the Marines’: Democrats running veterans to flip red congressional districts

    By Brian Murphy
    April 11, 2019

    North Carolina Democrats are banking on veterans, particularly retired Marines, to help them flip Republican-held U.S. House seats across the state.

    Retired Marines are running as Democrats in special elections in the state’s 3rd and 9th districts this year, and another just announced his candidacy in the 2nd district for 2020. (link)

    The few. The proud. The Democratic Marine Corp.

    Colonel Richard Bew – handsome fighter pilot (photo)

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    MomSense says:

    @Immanentize:

    It is discouraging and the despair rage emotional cycle of the past few years has been the worst.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Tony Messenger is one of the few remaining bright lights at the STL Post Disgrace:

    Tony Messenger is the St. Louis Post-Dispatch’s metro columnist, writing four columns a week in a position he has held since September 2016. He was editorial page editor from July 2012 until becoming metro columnist. He joined the Post-Dispatch in 2008 as a capital correspondent and political columnist in Jefferson City.

    He began his career at a small weekly newspaper in Colorado, where he was born and raised. He has worked at weeklies, dailies and magazines in Colorado, Arizona, Nebraska, South Dakota and Missouri.

    In 2016, Messenger was awarded a Missouri Honor Medal, the highest award bestowed by the University of Missouri’s School of Journalism. That same year he won a National Headliner for editorial writing. In 2015, Messenger was a Pulitzer finalist for his series of editorials on Ferguson, and won the Sigma Delta Chi award for best editorials of the year, given by the Society of Professional Journalists. In 2014, he won the Burl Osborne award for editorial leadership presented by the American Society of News Editors, and the Walker Stone editorial writing award presented by the Scripps-Howard Foundation. He has won many other state and regional honors for his writing.

    He can now add “Pulitzer Prize winner” to his list of honorifics.

    For bold columns that exposed the malfeasance and injustice of forcing poor rural Missourians charged with misdemeanor crimes to pay unaffordable fines or be sent to jail.

    Congratulations Tony, well deserved.

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    debbie says:

    @NotMax:

    Many made that same complaint about Obama. She’ll persist.

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    ola azul says:

    @MomSense:

    Gotta dear friend whose been fishing up here for 40+ years (‘cept the three years she spent in stir; as Johnny Cash once sez about Merle Haggard bein in the front row at San Quentin: “He wouldn’t mind me saying that!”), she likes to sez (more in the estar version of temporary vs. the ser version of permanence): “Relax! You’re fucked.”

    We might be fucked in the here n now, but I take great solace and inspiration that there’s many like me who feels we ain’t gotta be fucked in the forevermores.

    And on a lighter note: Been to any choice soul-vivifying musical performances of late?

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    debbie says:

    @satby:

    I’m getting sick of this ageism crap. People should not be dismissing wisdom and experience like they are; it’s what gotten us to the level of stupidity we now find ourselves in.

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    Adam Geffen says:

    I know it is early days but I’m hoping for Warren to be the nominee.

    As to summer vacations. I’m taking the family to the guncles house near Madison, WI for the 4th of July. And we’ll probably do a trip to northern Michigan.

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    Emma says:

    @Baud: It’s not google translate. You can see him trying to think in the language. He does the same thing in Spanish. I still want to see actual policy proposals but we could do much worse. On the other hand, we could do much better. Warren, Harris. They have obviously spent time thinking about what needs to be done.

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    MomSense says:

    @ola azul:

    Last month we had a beautiful performance of Brahms Tragic Overture, a C.Schumann piano concerto and R. Schumann’s Rhenish. As it turns out the pianist Diane Walsh has recently made Maine her home. She is brilliant. I hope this means we will get to hear her play more often.

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    satby says:

    @debbie: as one of the olds I’m pretty against it myself. But there are reasonable considerations about the inevitable decline that age ultimately brings to us all vs. a blanket assumption that someone is just “too old” at some arbitrary age. It should just be one factor in the assesment.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @debbie:
    Unless of course, it’s Wilmer and then his age is nothing to worry about. Did you know he exercises a lot? /Berniebro

    I was really hoping Warren was going to take away votes from Wilmer. She still might, but I was hoping he was going to get squeezed out

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    rikyrah says:

    i wasnt made to fall in line (@JesseRikart) Tweeted:
    Kamala Harris’ tax returns were 500+ pages.

    Can anyone explain why Bernie’s taxes are missing so many pages and supplemental information to explain his deductions and income? https://twitter.com/JesseRikart/status/1117981309996023808?s=17

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    satby says:

    @Adam Geffen: the summer vacation in the headline is AL’s sly joke about going to campaign for Warren.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize: I had that exact argument with someone recently.

    @MomSense: I am unsure of whom you are critical of, but the individual who said it was only acknowledging the uphill battle she has to fight against latent misogyny in this campaign, while praising her forthright thinking and the fully formed policies she proposes and the role those policies have in pushing all the other candidates to take positions they may feel uncomfortable articulating at this point in time.

    I agree.

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: It’s the best way to hide information.

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    rikyrah says:

    Tina Vasquez (@TheTinaVasquez) Tweeted:
    Why do white liberals love Pete Buttigieg but not Julián Castro? Why are white journalists framing Pete Buttigieg as a solid contender for the nomination, while framing Julián Castro as out of the realm of possibility? These questions answer themselves, obviously. https://twitter.com/TheTinaVasquez/status/1117807502089949184?s=17

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Speaking of the St. Louts Post-Dispatch:

    PBS is streaming online a great documentary on liberal journalist/publisher Joseph Pulitzer (link)

    Pulitzer eventually sold his newspapers and funneled the money into crusading journalism. He insisted on accuracy and that his reporters cover the lives of factory workers who had no rights, as well as the poor who lived in slums along streets of New York, lined with dung from horse-driven carriages.

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    MomSense says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I’m agreeing with you. Sorry, I can copy links on my wicked smaht phone but I can’t copy text. Women have great ideas and then they give them to a more senior male to execute.

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    ola azul says:

    @MomSense:

    Jealous, don’t mind saying.

    Here’s a short beautiful lil piano chestnut I allus loved: Barbara Carroll, My Funny Valentine

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    rikyrah says:

    MSNBC (@MSNBC) Tweeted:
    In 1989, AG Barr refused to release a DOJ legal opinion, choosing to release a summary report instead. It was later revealed that Barr mischaracterized parts of the opinion in that summary. https://t.co/exS3OfKG8o https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1118000075748380673?s=17

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    satby says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: he is getting squeezed out. That’s why he’s publicly picking fights with Democratic think tanks and Think Progress now, and turning the bros loose to smear anyone he thinks is a threat.
    Can’t wait to see that old asshole go down in flames.
    (Too soon?)

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @satby:

    Well… huh. 😊😂 That’s too sly for me obviously.

    Maybe I can combine my road trip up north with canvassing for Warren? Not sure how that will work with a 2yo in tow. 😜😂

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    rikyrah says:

    Venture Capital (@kelly2277) Tweeted:
    🚨Everyone associated with Trump has ties to Russia, including his AG, William Barr who has been busy trying to whitewash the Mueller Report🚨 https://t.co/22d7cqPA0N https://twitter.com/kelly2277/status/1117988036615311360?s=17

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    MomSense says:

    @rikyrah:

    I’ve been following a tax preparer/accountant who was trying to figure out how they managed to get their returns to print with some numbers in a different font. I suspect the returns may be booooooogus.

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    debbie says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    It’s a great doc, for sure. I had to watch it twice.

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @satby:

    Also… we should have a thread to talk about vacation plans & ideas. 🙏

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    satby says:

    @MomSense: I more than suspect when it comes to Wilmer. Redact tape and a copier can make entirely new stories from documents.
    Typos fixed.
    Oh, WTF Kindle?

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    SFAW says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    As poleaxed noted @ 26, Hillary was the Most Admired (or close to it) woman for a number of years, before Traitor Turtle et al. started with the 3 gazillion Benghazi!! “investigations.” [Of course, one might reasonably claim the Rethug takedown paled in comparison to the 20-plus-years-long hatefest the FTFTFNYT unleashed on the Clintons. Hillary seemed to have weathered it OK until 2015, when the FTFTFNYT started in again.]

    As with EVERY strong woman candidate, Warren will be subjected to the standard retort “Yes, Senator Professor Warren has some great policy proposals, as pretty damn smart, has gotten a lot done, and people seem to like her, BUT I JUST DON’T KNOW.” It’s just a variation of “Sure, I’d vote for a woman, just not THAT woman.”

    And the fucking morons who said Hillary was “too corporate” will find some other bullshit “reason” why Warren won’t get their vote.

    No, I haven’t had my caffeine yet, why do you ask?

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    MomSense says:

    @Adam Geffen:

    Put the kid in a backpack with a sun hat and give them the card/leaflet/brochures. Works like a charm.

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    debbie says:

    @MomSense:

    Really? I couldn’t change fonts when I used the fillable PDFs this year, but back when I had an accountant, the font he used didn’t match up.

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    rikyrah says:

    Ninjette, The Real (@NinjetteTheReal) Tweeted:
    @RepYvetteClarke @realDonaldTrump William Barr has an interesting history of actions with discriminatory purposes of removing non-white immigrants, such as he sent Haitian refugees to Gitmo.
    Let me say that again: William Barr sent victims seeking asylum to Guantanamo Bay. https://t.co/2ssr8SCuGS https://t.co/rRqfPCxzji https://twitter.com/NinjetteTheReal/status/1117912433014652928?s=17

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @MomSense:

    *nods* Yea, I was thinking it could be endearing to have the kiddo with me. 🤗

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    ola azul says:

    @MomSense:

    Not as good (or as behaving) as a puppy, but close.

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    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: If Sanders’ strategy is to do well early by winning a plurality of votes in a crowded field, the Iowa caucuses might be a problem for him. There are two rounds of voting. The first one shows which candidates can draw at least 15% of the vote present and be declared “viable.” Sanders can probably pass that. In the second round, supporters of non-viable candidates move around to their second choice. How many people will go to Sanders vs, say, Warren for their second choice?

    This is all complicated by the fact that Iowa is allowing absentee caucus voting this cycle, so that’s a new factor.

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @ola azul:

    Oh golly, now I’m imaging canvassing for Warren with a puppy and my toddler. Cutenesses overload. 😋😂

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    SFAW says:

    @MomSense:

    This same attitude is why we have so few women CEOs, too.

    Well, that, and Carly Fiorina.

    [Sorry, pet peeve of mine. She was feckin’ useless running HP and others]

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense: OK.

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    Baud says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    The first one shows which candidates can draw at least 15% of the vote present and be declared “viable.” 

    What happens if none of our 20 candidates get 15%?

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    MomSense says:

    @Adam Geffen:

    Especially when they throw all the leaflets on the ground and the homeowners rush out and help you pick them up. It’s a great way to talk about why you like the candidate so much you would try a crazy stunt like canvassing with a toddler.

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    ola azul says:

    @SFAW:

    As poleaxed noted @ 26 ….

    A traditionalist I see. I can respect that. We gotta harbor here in Sitka named after a douchey politician: don’t nobody I know call it by his name.

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    satby says:

    @debbie: but if it really was Jane doing their returns at home, shouldn’t it all match?

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    Baud says:

    @MomSense:

    Comic Sans will be his undoing.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense: And a “Warren for Prez” t shirt.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Adam Geffen: Put a “Warren for Prez” t shirt on the pup too.

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    satby says:

    @Baud: much as I hate caucuses, that’s pretty unlikely. More likely is the also-rans will be run off earlier, which would be a relief.

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    Baud says:

    @MomSense:

    Dems need a rent-a- toddler program.

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    Baud says:

    @satby: I know it’s unlikely. I’m just curious what the rules are.

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    ola azul says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    N diapers for both that is emblazoned with a trDUMP logo.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @ola azul: HA!

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    Another Scott says:

    @Baud: Great Smoky Mountains NP is free (a condition of it being made a park). Traffic into the park from Gatlinburg is horrible. But they find a way to make it work.

    I really, really like #4. The parks should always be free – they exist for the benefit of everyone. They can find a way to limit traffic, etc.

    The more I hear about Warren, the more I like her. I donated to her early, but I want to see the candidates mix it up in a debate or two before donating more.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Spanky says:

    @ola azul: Here in DC we have an airport named after a douchy politician. Everyone I know still calls it “National”.

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    @Baud: I have no idea. I hope they’re planning for that somewhere.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Bureaucratic glitch: UK suspends visa enrollment for American citizens

    Americans applying for work, study or settlement visas have been turned away because of a ‘technical issue’, Home Office says

    The technical issue is they can’t yet tell whether somebody has voted for trump or not. Oh, wait a minute:

    The UK Home Office described the problem as a “technical issue” but provided no further details. A source familiar with the problem said a British payment did not clear before a deadline and so the US Citizenship and Immigration Services cut off the service at the end of March.

    They haven’t finalized Brexit yet and they’re already broke? Boy, they are sooooooooo fucked.

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    SFAW says:

    @Spanky:

    Here in DC we have an airport named after a douchy politician. Everyone I know still calls it “National”.

    Comparing that motherfucker to douchy politicians is an insult to douchy politicians everywhere. The destruction that he and his legacy have wrought on the USA goes far beyond being “douchy.”

    [No, that’s not aimed at you, it’s aimed at RWR, that fuck. It was a good joke, and I would have appreciated the joke a lot more if I didn’t hate what Reagan did so much.]

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    CliosFanboy says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: I’ve used the New York World for the 1910s a lot. Looking back at their coverage it was generally pretty accurate. More so than the Times, and Hearst’s papers were about as accurate as Faux “News”

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    randy khan says:

    Some good news: The main stained glass windows at Notre Dame appear to have been saved.

    Rose windows still there

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @NotMax:

    I don’t even want to read the thread. You are going to catch hell. We’re not allowed to talk about things like that around here.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    We need someone who can beat Trump. Full stop.

    Of course that eliminates Sanders. Everyone else gets a chance to show us what they’ve got. But I have no preconceived requirements except that they beat Trump.

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    Immanentize says:

    @satby: @debbie:
    This should be easy to sort out -+ do the font variables in the Sanders’ returns match/line up with the missing attachments? That would be a reason for the forever delay.

    I know, I know. I doubt it’s true, but I want it to be!

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    Immanentize says:

    @Another Scott:
    They can be free with a suggested donation.

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    Immanentize says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    I’m glad the Immp decided not to attend St. Andrews

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    NotMax says:

    @Immanentize

    And free doesn’t preclude needing to make reservations during peak times.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax: Or visitor limitations….

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    NotMax says:

    @Immanentize

    Haleakala National Park here recently instituted a reservations policy for sunrise viewing hours.

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    MomSense says:

    @debbie:

    The returns are a mess. They didn’t release everything and some of the PDFs have inserted pages that are obviously different scans or photos. For example Harris returns are up to 100 pages with all the schedules, Klobuchar 80 pages, Sanders 18. Some of the entries don’t match up with the corresponding line numbers on the schedules. We need some tax attorneys to go over them for us but they look bizarre to me.

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    Kay says:

    southpaw
    ‏@nycsouthpaw
    2h2 hours ago
    More
    Imagine the New York Times calling your MOM for a quote about how aggressive you are in your professional life. It’s the most aggressive move I’ve ever heard of.

    The NYTimes quotes Neera Teedran’s mother in their continuing coverage of the “Bernie Sanders is again being treated unfairly” story, which is just an extension of their 2016 “we hate Hillary Clinton” coverage.

    It’s bizarre. Don’t they also have to call David Sirota’s mother now? Do they usually call the mothers of adult women to get commentary on the subject’s professional life? Is she in high school?

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax: I went there for a night viewing session — it was fabulous. There were lots of people, but not overcrowded. Somehow we hit the one night in thirty with clear crisp skies. A true moment of wonder in my life.

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    Mousebumples says:

    @NotMax: having been to Haleakala at sunrise twice (once before and once after the reservations policy went into effect), that’s due to space and parking concerns. There are only so many places for cars and people to go. It’s an amazing trek that I highly recommend doing if you’re in the area, but given that you need to leave 2-3 hours before sunrise to get to the top by sunrise…. This isn’t a trip that many would likely be taking as a last minute unplanned whim.

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    Immanentize says:

    @MomSense: Someone will do that, undoubtedly. But Bernie already got his, “nothing unusual, but he is a millionaire” press moment. The guy is so Trump

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    rikyrah says:

    Hit piece on Neera 😒😒

    Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) Tweeted:
    This is bizarre. Interviewing someone’s mother??! Weirdly ignores part about CAP central role in ACA. https://t.co/VridtZVaxA https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1118126363167342592?s=17

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    Immanentize says:

    After last night’s town hall, I wonder if Trump will say he is supporting Medicare for All? I think FOXbots were surprised how many people don’t hate the idea.

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    Baud says:

    @Immanentize:

    They’ll learn to hate it.

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    Kay says:

    @MomSense:

    I’m not by any means a tax attorney but I do look at a lot of tax returns and I think they’re poorly and sloppily done. Jane Sanders doesn’t know what she’s doing and it shows. I don’t think they’re faked or deliberately altered.

    I have no idea why these people don’t just pay someone to do their taxes. They certainly have the money and it’s not that expensive. Unless Jane Sanders wasn’t doing literally anything else it doesn’t make sense for her to spend 10 hours on taxes every year. If I were a political actor I would spend it gladly, if only to avoid doing a bad job.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize:

    I think FOXbots were surprised how many people are in favor of not having to worry about accessing healthcare.

    FTFY, you’ll get my bill in the mail.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Baud:
    I suppose they will, but just bleating “socialism!” Doesn’t seem to be working as much this time around. I wonder if having Bernie on FOX is muting that critique?

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    Kay says:

    @rikyrah:

    It’s bizarre. They could have done a hit piece on this person without calling her mother.

    I insist the professional political team at the NYTimes now call the parents of each and every political operative they report on. They can start with David Sirota’s, who is the other side of this fight.

    WTF?

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    @MomSense: Good question.

    Why did Bernie claim $133k salary when Senators make $174k?#BernieTaxDay #BernieSanders pic.twitter.com/Ey8qwqPu52— Adam Wright (@Adam_Wright23) April 15, 2019

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Kay: I am just a semi-retired carpenter with a tech employed wife who own their own home outright and we pay $60 ($80?) just to avoid the hassle. And the inevitable anxiety attacks.

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    rikyrah says:

    b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) Tweeted:
    “[I]f Omar is a target, it has little to do with what she said and everything to do with who she is: A black Muslim woman — and an immigrant — whose very person disrupts the exclusionary ideal of a white Christian America.” https://t.co/q07Vb4l3vA https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1118126333345837056?s=17

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @whola azzole: Looks like you forgot to run this one through your Bogus Illiterate Hillbilly language-mangling post-processor. Or did you just get tired of putting in the extra work to sound like an ignorant hick? In any case, welcome to the land of coherent prose – we all knew you could do it! ;^D

    (ETA: And then you went & spoiled it all in #26.)

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    Jeffro says:

    Recipe for winning in 2020: Kamala Harris (who in all likelihood already holds 95% of Warren’s policy positions) running on 100% of Warren’s policy positions as president, + Buttigieg as VP, with Warren’s and Booker’s endorsements and slamming Bernie early and often for being a divisive non-Dem. Case closed, next!

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    rikyrah says:

    Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) Tweeted:
    I poured extensive research into this article. Could not imagine a better time to publish it.

    “Barr’s Playbook: He Misled Congress When Omitting Parts of a Justice Department Memo in 1989”

    https://t.co/cc6SHLxxet https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1117775920822149120?s=17

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    Immanentize says:

    @Jeffro: I’ve expressed my Buttigieg concerns here before —
    But DAMN! I would love to see a Buttigieg vs Pence debate.

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    rikyrah says:

    Mother Jones (@MotherJones) Tweeted:
    Facebook has become a place where companies can market fancy houses to white people and junk food to black children, where hate speech is amplified and the right to vote is suppressed. https://t.co/RB8KciSrSJ https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/1118124358520721410?s=17

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    Kay says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    They could hire a small business! There are tons of solo tax preparers. It doesn’t have to be a CPA. They could avoid Big Tax and still get their forms completed properly and then it wouldn’t take them 4 years to hunt them up and lose the schedules, or whatever they did. You get a nice copy.

    People who don’t know what they’re doing often believe the schedules are unimportant- “extra”- because they have no idea what they are or why they’re attached :)

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    Baud says:

    @Immanentize:

    Doesn’t seem to be working as much this time around

    I hope you’re right, but a town hall is not an election.

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    MomSense says:

    @Kay:

    I hope they are just sloppy and not nefarious but FFS they needed all this extra time to release them and then they give us sloppy with no attachments? I’d find sloppy easier to believe if they showed us how they got the numbers they did. It’s just classic Sanders, though. He calls for tougher election financing laws and doesn’t comply with the current laws. He wants to increase taxes but then randomly has farm income, lost money in rentals, tons of expenses on Jane’s antique business, random start up costs. It just seems really odd to me.

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    JPL says:

    @rikyrah: That was one of the most embarrassing and disgusting article that I have read on the NYTimes. I did comment, but it hasn’t been approved yet. hmm

    I refuse to provide a link to the hit piece.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    @Kay: If Wilmer were to some how get the nomination, the Vichy Times would drop a house bricks on him for being a Socialist.

    But for now, they’ll lay off him so they can use him to attack Dems.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Kay: We use a CPA running her own small town, 3 person office. Always good, very conscientious, gives good advice… In the scope of her business we can’t be more than 1/200,000,000th of her gross and yet she always has time to help us with whatever issues may come up.

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    MomSense says:

    @MomSense:

    Ok I take that back. I don’t find it odd. I find it suspicious. In my experience, when someone was really vague about money or gave the “just really busy” or “just disorganized” excuses – it always meant hiding something from me. So I’m probably not an objective observer of this issue.

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    ola azul says:

    @Immanentize:

    Inclined to think it ain’t Bernie on Fox so much as just the times in which we live. Or, put another way, think it’s more in the formulation of Charlie Pierce: people gots no money, people gots no jobs.

    Wouldn’t-it-be-pretty-to-think-so Gooper ideology and free-market unicorns once innoculated many folks against the ooooh-scarrrry! charge of socialism. But Gooper “die-quicker-more-money-for-us-fuck-you” idealogy is a luxury folks’re increasingly finding they cannot afford. Even (gasp!) if they hate liberals.

    The extent to which the Republican Party’s long-avowed bullshit “small-government trickle-down makers-not-takers” ideology has been exposed as a fraud that helps none but plutocrats and is only espoused by fools or con-men (or both! not mutually exclusive —–> see Paulie Blue Eyes, an unconquerably stupid true believer!) is somewhat overlooked. Think the erosion of that facade is become more evident, and think it’s why the natives is restless, even formerly well-trained sheeples.

    The Goopers got literally *nothing* to offer to people that ain’t 1%ers. Nothing. At. Fucking. All.

    So they try’n divide based on tribal lines. Which generally works, long’s your peeps can keep their heads above water. Which is becoming increasingly difficult.

    If not, and things slide far enough into the shitter that even Foxbots, dear hearts, bless their souls, notice, well they might even consider (gasp!) voting for a black man for president.

    (Or — an even bigger leap, I know! — they might even condescend to vote for a woman.)

    imo

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    p.a. says:

    I usually link this early in the month, but with so much shitshow I forgot, and after yesterday…
    Anyhow it’s abril

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    Kay says:

    @MomSense:

    This is me but it’s based on long experience with a certain kind of Lefty here. I think of it as “self conscious” – The Sanders have to do their own tax returns because that’s what “the people” do. Bernie’s fans love this shit “oh, look, she filled them out by hand!” It’s very “authentic”. It gets on my nerves. Bernie and Jane Sanders are powerful, well-off people. They should stop pretending that they’re reporting for 3rd shift at the factory.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Spanky: FWIW, here just outside DC we have an airport graced with the name of the first African American Supreme Court Justice – & everyone still calls it “BWI”. (The highway signs read “BWI Thurgood Marshall”.) And yet in Baltimore there is a Martin Luther King Jr, Boulvard & everyone calls it that (or “MLK” for short).

    In my experience, renaming something that’s been around for awhile rarely sticks: the locals continue to use the name that settled in long before. It only works when the renamed item is fairly new. In Baltimore, the western center-city bypass originally called “Harbor City Blvd” was only a few years old when it was renamed for Dr King. By contrast, when I spent time in Lansing MI at the end of the last millennium, I discovered that locals almost always referred to their Martin Luther King Jr Blvd as Logan St., because it had been around for a long while under that name.

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    Brachiator says:

    Everything in this proposal is noteworthy, but giving lower-income families more of a chance to enjoy national parks is *not* a small thing, if we want support for those parks to be more than ‘a little perk for white totebaggers’…

    Democrats need to tone down the free shit. It’s a matter of spending priorities.

    That said, I very much like many of Warren’s other proposals.

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    MomSense says:

    @Kay:

    A fucking men. Remember that song If I had a million dollars – well I would hire a fucking accountant. Damn.

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    Kay says:

    @MomSense:

    Jane Sanders was handling millions and millions of dollars in the 2016 campaign, if she was actually in charge of media buying. Did she do that at her kitchen table too? God, I hope not. Come on. It’s this horrible Lefty posturing.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense:

    So I’m probably not an objective observer of this issue.

    It’s OK, we forgive you. ;-)

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    ola azul says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    Succinct, insightful, depressing cuz true.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    In my experience, renaming something that’s been around for awhile rarely sticks: the locals continue to use the name that settled in long before. It only works when the renamed item is fairly new.

    More complicated than that. In some places, there are cities, streets, etc, on their third or more naming. In Los Angeles the renamed MLK Boulevard was quickly adopted. Maybe aided by demographic shifts, the old name has largely been forgotten. Also, this is reinforced by media mention of new names.

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    snoey says:

    @Brachiator: They just raised the fees for Yellowstone etc. very significantly. This needs to be reversed. I’m not sure about free – people value what they pay for – but it should be all parks $10 a year or something like that. The parks, and the forests, need a huge budget increase to be able to do even the basic stuff right and it shouldn’t be based on user fees.

    If you want to shoot down an undeserved freebie eliminate the half price camping I get on my old folks access card.

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    Kay says:

    @TheRickWilson
    Follow Follow @TheRickWilson
    More
    Great job, Alabama!
    Kid-curious Roy Moore (R-Pedophile Junction, AL) is currently the leading candidate in the GOP Primary.

    Sometimes lucky is better than smart. They are going to bring him out AGAIN.

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    SFAW says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:
    I done tole him he cain’t do dialect too gud. A good ole boy version of Damon Runyon he ain’t

    More seriously: he’d be better served writing as if he were not showing off (or however one chooses to characterize it), since a number of things he has said are reasonably good.

    But with Barbara Billingsley no longer here to provide translation — although I’m not sure she was certified in “hick” — one has to rely on Babelfish. Golly!

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    Brachiator says:

    @Kay:

    I’m not by any means a tax attorney but I do look at a lot of tax returns and I think they’re poorly and sloppily done.

    I haven’t had a chance to really look at them yet.

    What’s the problem?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Uncle Cosmo: When I was growing up, the main east west highway through the center of STL and suburbs was state hwy 40. Everybody called it hwy 40. Eventually (around about 2000) it was added to the interstate system and designated Interstate 64. I still call it Hwy 40, but the younger folks call it I-64. So in this case as all of us old fucks die out nobody will even remember that it was once or notice that it still is technically state Hwy 40.

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    Brachiator says:

    @snoey:

    This needs to be reversed. I’m not sure about free – people value what they pay for – but it should be all parks $10 a year or something like that. The parks, and the forests, need a huge budget increase to be able to do even the basic stuff right and it shouldn’t be based on user fees.

    Good points. Totally agree.

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    rikyrah says:

    Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) Tweeted:
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi takes another shot at socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), says a “glass of water” with a “D” next to it “would win” in Ocasio-Cortez’s district. https://t.co/sPbhEUTeir https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1117917866395717632?s=17

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    nativeprof says:

    Warren’s proposal for free national parks is squarely in line with history. In the clash between wilderness advocates and the national park movement, the former were purists while the latter believed that making national parks accessible would foster broad public support for conservation. An example of a compromise was in Washington state, where the Mountaineers Club (WA’s Sierra Club) relented in supporting road-building in Rainier NP in exchange for keeping Olympic NP relatively undeveloped.

    Warren basically has the best of both Roosevelt presidents, and charisma in spades.

    Final postscript: To people who engage in the casual gaslighting of saying that the criticism from Indian country is a right-wing mirage or disinformation campaign, here is a resource I have been wanting to share:

    http://www.criticalethnicstudi.....na-testing

    Again, I still think Warren would make the best president since she is lapping the field in policy and has shown more contrition on this issue than Trump or Bernie have shown about anything, but the relentless attacks on indigenous scholars as pawns of the right are just wrong.

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    ola azul says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    @whola azzole: Looks like you forgot to run this one through your Bogus Illiterate Hillbilly language-mangling post-processor. Or did you just get tired of putting in the extra work to sound like an ignorant hick? In any case, welcome to the land of coherent prose – we all knew you could do it! ;^D

    (ETA: And then you went & spoiled it all in #26.)

    You are a peculiar funny little man.

    Will note: Closer reading of the post you were faux-valorizing me for (apparently so that you could grind yer inscrutable grammar axe later) woulda revealed, again were you paying attention, both a “betwixt” *and* a Pogoesque incongruity in verb tense. Which is sorta silly for you cuz it kinda defeats your insincere straw-man praise.

    Perhaps you are one of those persons who nurses a grudge into the vanishing point of absurdity? Seems like.

    How’z’bout this: You and I ignore each other. Are you equal to that? Works for me.

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    rikyrah says:

    VoteForWomen ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 (@AnnAnnChe) Tweeted:
    Bernie’s taxes are fucked up. Some examples:

    2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2013= All were edited/revised in the box that asks for your self employment income to determine additional taxes owed 😬😬

    2014, 2011, 2009= Not full returns, and almost all years are missing attachments https://twitter.com/AnnAnnChe/status/1117965417752829952?s=17

    VoteForWomen ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 (@AnnAnnChe) Tweeted:
    Bernie’s taxes are fucked up. CONT

    2013: Jane’s “small antique business” had $3,832 in gross sales, but a net profit of -$938 bc she wrote off a bunch of meals (no taxes owed on negative income)

    2012: $5,300 rental income but negative -$25,256 in rental expenses? 😬 Yikes!

    VoteForWomen ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 (@AnnAnnChe) Tweeted:
    The deductions and write offs in general are pretty ridiculous. Bernie has written off $8,000 a year in meals on a few returns

    Mysterious farm income was not only revised in 5 different returns, but required boxes were left blank or whited out

    Charity deductions but no deets

    VoteForWomen ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 (@AnnAnnChe) Tweeted:
    I’m going through my old self employment taxes, and I don’t have any with different fonts 🤷🏼‍♀️

    And I have a 0 in Net Farm Profit. Bernie has a income there.

    Some Bernie people swear its standard or Turbo Tax default but idk my taxes def don’t look like this. His look bonkers.

    VoteForWomen ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 (@AnnAnnChe) Tweeted:
    The sketchiest part feels like the deductions.

    When you have a W2 job, your income and taxes are straight forward.

    But they always have self employment income/unnamed gift contributions, etc. where they can create tons of deductions to offset how much they owe in taxes.

    VoteForWomen ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 (@AnnAnnChe) Tweeted:
    They have so many deductions it plummets them in super low tax brackets- like 15% making over 200K?!

    It honestly feels like they create side jobs/investments for opportunities to create deductions. And yeah I think they just make up a lot of deductions to get out of taxes.

    …………..
    Kim Wexler’s Ponytail (@MadisonKittay) Tweeted:
    @AnnAnnChe @AnikoSz1 Transparency: Harris 2018 return is 100+ pages, Klobuchar is 80 pages, O’Rourke 2017 is 70 pages.

    Sanders 2018 is 18 pages.

    Something stinks here. https://twitter.com/MadisonKittay/status/1118006643277668352?s=17

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    Immanentize says:

    On a personal very positive tax note — I am getting a very big refund this year. It really was a mood lifter with so much $$ goIng out the door this year. Helpful! But not worth the cause–

    Of course, I am only getting it because this year (and this year alone!) I am a “qualified widower.”. That means I still received a double exemption as if filing jointly.

    But as they say — do not try this at home!

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    Tenar Arha says:

    @Jeffro: I’ve been imagining something like that too. If Warren is the nominee, great! She has all the plans & hopefully 2 terms to get stuff done.

    But if she doesn’t become the nominee, she’ll be the main driver in the Senate making her plans happen. Because she’ll be there for this current, plus one more term. Which adds up to either 12 years in the Senate or 2 there plus 8 years in the White House. I think it’s a win-win combination.

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    Spanky says:

    @MomSense:

    In my experience, when someone was really vague about money or gave the “just really busy” or “just disorganized” excuses – it always meant hiding something from me. So I’m probably not an objective observer of this issue.

    Which is just about *everyone’s* experience, except perhaps the average Berniebro. So there are going to be more questions now than before they released … whatever it is that those things are.

    Too bad. So sad. (Insert sad trombone.)

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    Lapassionara says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: We are fairly new to the St Louis area and everyone I know says Highway 40. I don’t think the new name will ever stick among locals.

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    JPL says:

    @Immanentize: I’m glad that you are getting a refund, but more importantly that you and your son are doing okay. Sometimes life sucks but you just have to keep moving forward.

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    Brachiator says:

    @rikyrah:

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi takes another shot at socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), says a “glass of water” with a “D” next to it “would win” in Ocasio-Cortez’s district

    If this is accurate, it is exceptionally stupid and pointlessly nasty.

    It also insults the people in the district. This doesn’t sound like Pelosi.

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    Immanentize says:

    @JPL: The alternatives to moving forward are really unattractive.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Brachiator: I know nothing about it, but the context could have been a troll question expressing concern for Omar’s re-election chances?

    ETA I’m on the train or I would look it up

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @rikyrah:

    2012: $5,300 rental income but negative -$25,256 in rental expenses? 😬 Yikes!

    I have to say this one in particular strikes me as not unbelievable, assuming it is for a single year (depending on what the other years show). One can rent out a house for only part of a year because a tree fell on it/water heater blew up/electrical fire/ etcetcetc, and then have to spend a very large amount of money fixing it because the insurance only covered damage directly related to the incident but a lot of other problems are than found.

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    Spanky says:

    @rikyrah: I took the time to watch the video (unusual for me), and that’s a total mischaracterization of what Speaker Pelosi actually said. Unfortunately, most folks will just go by the tweet. So Mission Accomplished @RealSaavedra! Your ratfucking will keep working!

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Uncle Cosmo: There’s a traffic jam in Harlem
    That’s backed up to Jackson Heights.
    There’s a scout troop short a child,
    Kruschev’s due at Idlewild

    Although people generally don’t call it “Idlewild” any more.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize: We’re getting back from state and fed app $4500, a real surprise considering the # of fuck ups were made by trump and state GOP compounded by one of my own.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    I don’t think either of them are exciting speakers. Other than their abilities to rile up single issue people with hate, what have BS and DT got? Maybe I’m confusing enduring one note speaker with exciting.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Lapassionara: My sons and their friends use I-64 if they bring it up, Hwy 40 if I do.

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @Immanentize:

    “I am a “qualified widower.”. That means I still received a double exemption as if filing jointly.”

    Oh my. Condolences. ~hugs~ 😢

    Also, I didn’t realize it worked that way (I took tax law pass-fail in law school for good reason. 😛Tax stuff just makes my mind go numb). Not exactly a tax benefit to look forward to. My husband and I just got married about three years ago.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Immanentize: I guess that makes me look a little differently on my large non-refund this year. Somehow I suspect you’d rather have paid the big bucks like I did.

    Sorry.

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    polyorchnid octopunch says:

    @Baud: We had a weekly protest at City Hall here, by the Sisters of Providence (a local convent) protesting the penurious cuts to social services brought in by the Mike Harris Conservative government in the nineties. It ran for twenty years.

    Here’s their “About Us” page: https://www.providence.ca/about-us/

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Brachiator: Upon reading that my first reaction was, “It’s true, isn’t it?” Just as a tree stump followed by an (R) would get elected in Mississippi (tho apparently not a pedophile in Alabama- who knew?). As @Immanentize: said, I’d like to get the context.

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    Baud says:

    @Brachiator:
    @Spanky:

    Always check to see where the quotation marks are.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @zhena gogolia: Cosign enthusiastically – with one caveat.

    If I’m running the DNC I’m polling like crazy to get a handle on how gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation affect candidates’ ability to attract the votes we need to take down the Tang DyedNasty. If I’m running the campaign of a candidate of non-traditional gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation, I’m doing the same. And I’m also probing for how to present the candidate to best effect – in particular how to counter the crap the GOP will most assuredly throw. (Which means being ruthlessly honest about the candidate’s vulnerabilities, real and bogus.)

    The caveat is this: Our eventual candidate not only has to depose Cheetoh Benito, s/he has to govern in the teeth of a large hostile minority hairtriggered to plunge the nation into chaos. Keep in mind that in a time of slower communication & much slower travel, South Carolina (“too small for a nation, too large for an insane asylum”) seceded 44 days after the 1860 election (& only 15 days after the electors met “in their several states” to cast the votes that would make Abraham Lincoln POTUS), & the first shots were fired at Fort Sumter** only 39 days after Lincoln’s inauguration.

    Sometimes it feels like 2019 is a bad reboot of 1859 – I so do not want 2020-21 to go down that path, & neither should yinz.)

    **Fun fact: The first deaths by hostile action in the Civil War occurred, not at Fort Sumter, but in downtown Baltimore a week later. You could look it up.)

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    Brachiator says:

    @Adam Geffen:

    Not exactly a tax benefit to look forward to. My husband and I just got married about three years ago.

    You also have to have a dependent child. You get the benefit for two tax years.

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    polyorchnid octopunch says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷: Warren was never going to take those votes away from Bernie. There are some she can get from him, but there’s going to be a pretty large core that’s going to play PUMA if they don’t get everything they want, no matter what.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Immanentize:

    ETA I’m on the train or I would look it up

    Same with me. I’m on my commute.

    Also I see the Fox News site pimping the quote, so it must be bullshit or out of context.

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    Doug R says:

    Free national parks? What’s next, nationwide legal cannabis?

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    ola azul says:

    @Immanentize:

    But as they say — do not try this at home!

    Have that grievous misfortune in common. Had sorta gleaned that thru context in comments, but did not realize it was so recent. Very sorry. As one feeling human to another, know it hurts, and ain’t nothing nobody can say makes it better, ‘cept to know they care.

    But will say: Greatly admire your ability to mix humor and pathos in the face a personal tragedy. Laugh to keep from crying, right?

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    Doug R says:

    @rikyrah:

    “glass of water” with a “D” next to it “would win” in Ocasio-Cortez’s district.

    News to Joe Crowley.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Emma: I was about to write something similar. He has the pauses and uhs one produces when speaking in a language one doesn’t often use. Something with which I have experience as my moderate fluency has long since faded to functionality.
    ETA Google translate sucks, by and large.

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    rikyrah says:

    Are they REALLY thinking of running Roy Moore again in Alabama?
    That’s got to be a joke.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Doug R: They were picking between 2 glasses of water, one they couldn’t drink from no matter how thirsty they were because it was too busy in DC to even bother talking with them, and the other was walking around their neighborhoods, asking them if they were thirsty and then offering to slake their thirst.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Doug R: Per other commenters, it’s a distortion of what Pelosi actually said. We have to be careful not to jump into the faux outrage machine. Verify first.

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    rikyrah says:

    Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) Tweeted:
    Dems Raise $75M Across Many Campaigns, Signaling Lengthy Fight Ahead https://t.co/JJaknCtXPD via @TPM https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1118124744237252614?s=17

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @rikyrah: Alabama is a joke. Isn’t it? Or at least the punch line.

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    BlueGirlFromWyo says:

    @Aleta: I wasn’t aware you could sue for your own inability to manage your way out of a paper bag. Who mismanages their contractors that badly? Well, that explains why Mango Mussolini’s so lawsuit happy.

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    Ruckus says:

    @MomSense:
    It’s called right for thee and not for me.
    A very entitled viewpoint of everyone else.

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    chopper says:

    @rikyrah:

    so he didn’t release his full returns. what the fuck is it with this guy and his allergy to the concept of financial transparency? wait, don’t answer, i have a good guess.

    of course, his stans will wave this away the same way they did his release of a summary of a single year back during the last campaign. “see? he released his taxes, now shut up!”

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    joel hanes says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Ooh! Ooh!
    I know that one!

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Brachiator: Basically the same thing – the previous name(s) hadn’t been in use for long enough, recently enough, to firmly attach themselves.

    Slightly o/t but possibly pertinent here – Many years back I took an “enrichment course” in Russian with a State Department translator as instructor. He offered up an insight that for me was worth the price of the course: The only words in any language that are irregular in construction of tenses/declensions/etc. are those in frequent use (or are directly derived from those in frequent use, e.g., added prefix/suffix). The majority of native speakers remember & apply those irregularities because they’re continually reinforced. If a word starts out as irregular but is rarely used, most native speakers won’t remember that & will instead apply the regular rules for conjugation or declension, & in short order usage regularizes the word.

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    rikyrah says:

    Trump hires new legal team to fight release of tax returns
    Rachel Maddow reports that even as Donald Trump has hired new lawyers to fight to keep Trump’s tax returns away from public view, subpoenas to financial institutions from Congress, looking into Donald Trump’s finances are multiplying faster than Trump’s lawyers can’t issue threats.

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    joel hanes says:

    @polyorchnid octopunch:

    Thank you.
    I’m remembering silent candlelight protests against the Viet Nam war held on church lawns, and some people named Berrigan.

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    L85NJGT says:

    @Brachiator:

    “When we won this election, it wasn’t in districts like mine or Alexandria’s.”

    “But those are districts that are solidly Democratic. This glass of water would win with a D next to its name in those districts,” she said as she hoisted a glass of water.

    “and not to diminish the exuberance, and the personality, and the rest of Alexandria and the other members…but the 43 districts—we won 43, net gain of 40—were right down the middle. mainstream, hold-the-center victories.”

    Pelosi said a strongly left-wing message such as that of Ocasio Cortez “works great in my district, I get over 80 percent in my district, these folks do as well, but that’s not where we have to win the election.”

    She added: “It doesn’t mean we…curb those enthusiasms. Reach for the moon. Put out there what you want, go for it, talk about it. But when we have to go into the districts that we have to win, we have to cull that with which we have most in common with these people.

    “Not compromising our values, our principles. Not even changing our message. Just, taking a piece of the message that we put forward. This is about winning. This is about winning because so much is at stake.”

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    Fair Economist says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    But I have seen no reports that people are left cold by their one-on-one interactions with her; just as I never saw any such reports about Hillary. It seems to me that Beinart is making an effort to define away Warren’s charisma (and to some extent Hillary’s) by arguing that showing competence erodes a woman’s charisma.

    I’ll put on my scientist hat for a moment. The press is claiming Warren has less “charisma”. How do they measure that? The answer is they don’t, and so any comment they make about “charisma” is just something they make up to push some agenda.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @L85NJGT: Thank you for this synopsis. Quite different from the selective out-of-context outrage snippet, no?

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    Aleta says:

    @MomSense:
    Diane Walsh
    Wednesday, August 28th, 2019
    Chebeague Island Community Association
    Recital – 7:00 PM
    Chebeague Island Methodist Church
    258 N. Road, Chebeague Island, Casco Bay Maine 04017
    Program TBA
    (Her website calendar)

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    Fair Economist says:

    @rikyrah: That’s not a shot against AOC. Pelosi said the same about her own district.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Kay: “Teen Acres is the place for me…” And in place of Zsa Zsa the last line becomes: “Dollink I love you but wait till I reach the age of consent…”

    (Yeah, I know it doesn’t scan:

    There was a young man from Japan
    Whose limericks never would scan.
    When someone asked why,
    He’d reply, “Because I
    Always put as many words into the last line as I possibly can.”

    Take it up with my Guangdong lawyer, Su Mi.)

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    Captain C says:

    @NotMax: The thought of Senator Warren with subpoena power is delicious.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Fair Economist:

    so any comment they make about “charisma” is just something they make up to push some agenda.

    Hmmm, what agenda could that be, I wonder? Rhymes with *misogyny,* perhaps? I am so so, so sick of the disempowering of capable women and POC. The talent lost and the shitstains won. Blech.

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    joel hanes says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    There was a young man of South Bend
    Whose limericks tended to end
    Quite suddenly.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Fair Economist:

    The press is claiming Warren has less “charisma”.

    Not just press. It extends even to commenters on an almost-top-10,000 lefty blog.

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    Immanentize says:

    @L85NJGT: That sounds like the speech of a leader. I like how she equates her district with Ocasio-Cortez’

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Brachiator:

    I believe that she says something like, “just as in my own district.”

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Immanentize: Hey, thanks, but making it to Tremont St. for 4:00 pm on a Thursday is just vanishingly unlikely, sorry.

    So I guess I’ll have to wait until Friday to find out about the ducks.

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    StringOnAStick says:

    @ola azul: On your music question, we saw a local band (Denver) last Friday night that knocked our socks off; they were the warm up band and we found them to be the most impressive: The Dollhouse Thieves. They were short 1 bass player so the usual guitarist took that role and the lead singer took over on acoustic. When they first came out the lead played a screaming Klezmer inspired but very modern clarinet lead, and I had a suspicion that she was fairly pregnant; then she put on her guitar and removed all doubt that she was really pregnant. As hard as she was working that clarinet I was wondering if she was going to go into labor right then and there. All the people in the band and music instructors with degrees in the same, and they rocked the place hard. We went right home and bought their CD. All very eclectic music that they write themselves, acoustic, gypsy jazz and zydeco influenced, alt folk, etc. Fabulous.

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    Fair Economist says:

    @Immanentize: Judis was also the one who wrote that astonishingly irrelevant anti-immigration screed beating a straw horse about ridiculous claims nobody ever made. Which TPM had frontpaged for YEARS.

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @Brachiator:

    1. This is why I took tax law pass fail and while I did pass, don’t ever hire me as a tax lawyer. 😬

    2. @Immanentize I’m a new parent (have a 2yo). So many ~hugs~ to you and yours.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I am hoping that we will record it and put it on the site. Or record my voice and I can overlay the powerpoint….

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Is that US 40? Runs right through the heart of Baltimore as Franklin St. (westbound) & Mulberry St. (eastbound) bracketing the Central Library & Basilica of the Assumption, but changes names when it emerges as two-way to the west (Edmonson Ave.) and east (Orleans St., changing to Pulaski Hwy.) Outside the city we call it “Route 40 West/East” (of the city) until it’s subsumed by I-70, then I-68 in the west. /tmi

    (Traveling west on I-70, I get a chuckle out of a distance signpost just west of the eastern terminus:

    Columbus 420
    St. Louis 845
    Denver 1700
    Cove Fort 2200

    You can read about the genesis of the sign here.)

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Aleta: ooh, Chebeague! My first experience of Maine! How lovely to think of going to a concert there!

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    rikyrah says:

    @Immanentize:

    positive thoughts for you and Little Imma. :)

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    Immanentize says:

    @Fair Economist: That guy is a jackass.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Adam Geffen: Ahhh, 2 year olds! You do understand that they grow up to become teenagers, right?

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    Immanentize says:

    @StringOnAStick: I saw the Talking Heads twice on the same tour when Tina Weymouth was VERY pregnant — but that did not stop her sick bass moves.

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @Immanentize:

    Re teenagers: ~sigh~ the speed of time passing with children is wonderous and frightful. My little one is just at the beginning of talking. More and more words by the week.

    Last week he did something that melted my heart (again). I did something (don’t recall what) that amused him and he said: “oh, dada”. With absolutely perfect cadence and pitch to signal his wry amusement.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Ruckus:
    You and I might not find Trump and Wilmer exciting, but that’s okay with them. As you note, each is good at getting his base excited; and that’s all these two care about.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Adam Geffen: I have a list of the Immp’s words at that age — I can’t tell you where it is. But it’s so great when I accidentally come upon it and then lose it again.

    I like to joke that the arc of his language was:
    “Truck!”
    “Turtle”
    “That’s not fair!”

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @Immanentize:

    “I like to joke that the arc of his language was:
    “Truck!”
    “Turtle”
    “That’s not fair!””

    ❤️😂😄

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @Immanentize:

    Also the list of words is a good idea. I hadn’t thought about that. I’m going to start keeping track for historical reminiscing.

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    rikyrah says:

    A brave chaplain and a human chain saved holy relics from Notre Dame
    CBSNews

    Paris’s Deputy Mayor for Tourism and Sports, Jean-Francois Martins told “CBS This Morning” on Tuesday that he and others on the scene jumped into action to salvage the trove of art and artifacts housed in Notre Dame Cathedral as a devastating fire engulfed the ancient building the previous evening.

    “We made a human chain, with our friends from the church… to get, as quick as possible, to get all the relics,” he said, noting that the Crown of Thorns believed to have been worn by Jesus Christ on the cross was among the items rescued.

    “Thanks to the great bravery of all our firefighters, and as well all the public servants there, we had a very quick intervention. Very quickly a team was fully dedicated to save all these holy pieces, and specifically the relics and the crown,” Martins said. “Everything is safe and undamaged, and in our really bad day, we had one good news.”
    ………………………

    French Culture Minister Franck Riester told reporters in Paris on Tuesday that all the art and artifacts rescued from the cathedral would be transferred to another Parisian landmark, the Louvre Museum, for safe keeping.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Brachiator: King County, Washington State was renamed King County in honor of MLK. Made it easy to get people to use the new name.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Adam Geffen: When my son was about 3, we were driving somewhere, he picked up something that was lying on the back seat and said “Dad, what does ‘I once was lost but now I’m found’ mean?”

    I wasn’t aware that he knew how to read.

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    SFAW says:

    @joel hanes:

    Ooh! Ooh!

    Good one!

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    JustRuss says:

    @Kay:

    I have no idea why these people don’t just pay someone to do their taxes. They certainly have the money and it’s not that expensive.

    Well if there’s one thing the last couple years have taught us, electing a president who knows everything and doesn’t have to listen to experts will work out just fine.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Baud:

    I’m stuggling to remember a religious protest that I thought was actually righteous.

    Maybe the Southern Black churches fighting segregation since 1865?? For one?

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    Mandalay says:

    Ted Cruz is a bullshitter, absurd drama queen, idiot and opportunist in equal measure:

    Today, we are all Parisians, as we mourn the mighty Notre Dame cathedral engulfed in flames. The world stands united as we pray for the people of France.

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    MomSense says:

    @Immanentize:

    😢

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    MomSense says:

    @Aleta:

    Oooh awesome. Thank you. She really is spectacular.

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    Brachiator says:

    @L85NJGT:

    Pelosi said a strongly left-wing message such as that of Ocasio Cortez “works great in my district, I get over 80 percent in my district, these folks do as well, but that’s not where we have to win the election.”

    She added: “It doesn’t mean we…curb those enthusiasms. Reach for the moon. Put out there what you want, go for it, talk about it. But when we have to go into the districts that we have to win, we have to cull that with which we have most in common with these people.

    Appreciate the larger context provided for what Pelosi said. It’s clear that no attack on AOC was intended.

    @StringOnAStick:

    On your music question, we saw a local band (Denver) last Friday night that knocked our socks off; they were the warm up band and we found them to be the most impressive: The Dollhouse Thieves.

    Sounds like fun.

    They have a couple of YouTube clips. For example, The Dollhouse Thieves “Faint Line” -Tiny Desk Contest 2019

    Thanks

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    L85NJGT says:

    @Mandalay:

    Are we no longer eating Freedom Fries?

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    Mandalay says:

    @Mandalay: Joe Scarborough: the fire at Notre Dame is

    “a dagger at the heart of western civilization.”

    Mike Barnacle:

    It’s part of the soul of civilization burning.

    These blowhards are absolutely shameless.

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    Kay says:

    Maggie Haberman
    ‏Verified account
    @maggieNYT
    2m2 minutes ago
    More
    Dems are grappling with what GOP did in 2015, which is realization that there’s a wide gap between a solid chunk of the prime voters and the party leadership in DC

    Team Trump at the NYTimes offers some political punditry to Democrats. I didn’t think it was possible but they’re actually worse than in 2016. Now they don’t cover the candidates at all.

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    Mandalay says:

    @Mandalay: Katty Kay:

    “For a few hours yesterday we refound a sense of common humanity…and it bound us together in a common grief”

    Mika Brzezinski:

    “Everybody’s heart was breaking around the world”.

    Just stop, you vile, pathetic fuckers.

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    Kay says:

    If anyone is interested in the Democrat candidates rather than abstract, pulled out of their asses observations about the Democratic electorate, Dave Weigel at the Washington Post covers all of them, every day.

    If you need a break from the minute to minute coverage of Donald Trump’s television viewing.

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    jl says:

    @L85NJGT: “and not to diminish the exuberance, and the personality, and the rest of Alexandria and the other members…but the 43 districts—we won 43, net gain of 40—were right down the middle. mainstream, hold-the-center victories.”

    That is a facty type statement that can be checked and argued over based on platforms of who ran.
    I am a Warren supporter, and have a much more progressive stance than Pelosi. But I think the corporate media, and various operators operating from their own viewpoints and for various interests, often highlight out of context quotes. For example, clear that the (IMHO fraudulent) 60 Minutes interview with Pelosi cherry picked her quotes.I don’t pay much attention to out of context sound bites or ‘print bytes’.

    I think Pelos is overly cautious on progressive policies, but she isn’t shutting any viewpoint down.

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    plato says:

    And you thought the rethugs were the ultimate craven cowards.

    Egypt’s parliament has approved constitutional amendments that would allow President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi to stay in power until 2030.

    Mr Sisi is due to stand down in 2022, when his second four-year term ends.

    But the amendments, which must be put to a referendum within 30 days, would lengthen his current term to six years and allow him to stand for one more.

    MPs are also expected to enshrine the military’s role in politics and give Mr Sisi more power over the judiciary.

    In 2013, Mr Sisi led the military’s overthrow of Egypt’s first democratically elected president, Mohammed Morsi, following protests against his rule.

    Since then, he has overseen what human rights groups say is an unprecedented crackdown on dissent that has led to the detention of tens of thousands of people.

    Parliament is also dominated by supporters of Mr Sisi and it has been criticised by the opposition as being a rubber stamp for the president.

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    Peale says:

    @Mandalay: I just did a spot check and western civilization hasn’t keeled over just yet from the wound. At least out my window. McDonald’s is still open, at least. So we’re good.

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    Peale says:

    @plato: Isn’t he like 900 years old already?

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    Mandalay says:

    @Kay: Also, yesterday Uncle Ebeneezer posted a great link which summarizes the policy positions of the candidates:

    https://politicalcharge.org/category/2020-candidates/

    Going there is far less painless than visiting the web site of each candidate. In fact the whole web site is pretty awesome.

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    Kay says:

    @plato:

    I think it could happen here, except Trump wouldn’t bother with a constitutional amendment or approval. He would simply yell a lot and hire a lot of lawyers and hacks to bury us in bullshit. I’m no longer 100% confident in a peaceful transfer of power at the end of this, and I was confident in that the day he was elected. I think there would be a substantial group of powerful people who would insist staying in power past term is within his power. We would then “debate” it, forever, or until he left voluntarily, either one.

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    J R in WV says:

    @rikyrah:

    Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) Tweeted:
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi takes another shot at socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), says a “glass of water” with a “D” next to it “would win” in Ocasio-Cortez’s district. https://t.co/sPbhEUTeir https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1117917866395717632?s=17

    This is obviously true, it is a nearly pure Blue D district. The Amazeballs part is that Ocasio-Cortez won a poorly contested (by the incumbent) primary by an overwhelming margin!! Which somehow few people mention when attacking her for being too left wing. It’s NYC, folks…

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    Kay says:

    @Mandalay:

    I’m not as policy focused as I have been in the past. I’m looking for someone who can somehow battle their way past all this bullshit and get us out of this. I lost interest in the Trump reality show 6 months ago. I want out. Show the way, and they’ve got my support.

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    plato says:

    @Kay: Oh, how the murkans used to mock the banana ‘republics’. Karma, I guess.

    @Peale: He will be when his ‘term’ ends.

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    J R in WV says:

    @ola azul:

    …Pogoesque incongruity in verb tense…

    There you go. “…Incongruity in verb tense.” Pogo had to get all of his philosophy into a little square on the funny pages. I loved that whole series. Have the books!

    Just saying. Your contribution would be so much more valuable if everyone could read it. Plus Pogo was long ago, and you do it so poorly; he used a much lighter hand than you.

    “We have met the enemy, and he is us” for example.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Kay:

    I’m no longer 100% confident in a peaceful transfer of power at the end of this, and I was confident in that the day he was elected. I think there would be a substantial group of powerful people who would insist staying in power past term is within his power. We would then “debate” it, forever, or until he left voluntarily, either one.

    I think the full-time civil service folks of DC are getting mighty tired of Trump’s bullshit, and would drag him out of the White House with the willing and able assistance of the Secret Service. Assuming there is an election. I have been wrong before, however…

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    catclub says:

    @rikyrah:

    noting that the Crown of Thorns believed to have been worn by Jesus Christ on the cross was among the items rescued.

    does anybody else laugh at this? Crown of thorns put on a guy in Palestine, discarded and forgotten on the day it was woven, a recreated version probably gets sold to Constantine’s mother when she is laying down the stations of the cross 300 or so years later.

    what a gulli-bull as Bugs bunny would say.

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    Dan B says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: There are so many charismatic women leaders. Lets go back to Shirley Chisholm, Coretta Scott King, Gloria Steinem, and Ann Richards. There are a hyge number. This idea that women have to be tough, or the false concept of “macho for women” is breathtakingly ignorant. Michelle Obama and her husband rarely feel the need to macho/angry it in order to seem competent. It may be more true that the angry and the puffed up macho are showing off their lack of competence, charisma, or power.

    BTW, great list of current chaismatic and competent women!

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    opiejeanne says:

    @J R in WV: Thank you. I find Ola’s posts difficult, tedious to read because of the way he writes instead of just getting to the point.
    I spent several years working on a novel (which I finally finished and am putting off rewriting) set in the Missouri Ozarks during the Civil War, and a lot of the dialogue is spelled the way I heard it much later from my family there. I had to stop it at one point not only because it was tedious but I was overdoing it in the case of two characters, and toned it way down. And I wasn’t even using the overworked cliche comments made by hillbillies in most depictions. No “Tarnation!”, none of that stuff, no amusingly crotchety old grandfather yellin’ ’bout them damned Secesh! Ok, maybe a little of that.
    I never did put in the thing my grandmother said, “Things isn’t what they used to was.” She was right, but that’s not the point.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @ola azul:

    You are a peculiar funny little man.

    Looked in the mirror lately? (Giving you the benefit of the doubt on whether you have a reflection.)

    Closer reading of the post you were faux-valorizing me for (apparently so that you could grind yer inscrutable grammar axe later) woulda revealed, again were you paying attention, both a “betwixt” *and* a Pogoesque incongruity in verb tense. Which is sorta silly for you cuz it kinda defeats your insincere straw-man praise.

    I worked as an applied mathematician/statistician & am broadly familiar with delta-epsilon proofs and confidence intervals. And besides, a touch of wordplay is often not a bad thing. Entire lengthy posts in your version of dialect is something else. You occasionally post stories or insights of some interest, but you insist in forcing readers to fight their way through your incoherent-ignoramus shtick to get to them. It shows a deep disrespect for your audience.

    Perhaps you are one of those persons who nurses a grudge into the vanishing point of absurdity?

    I am looking forward (far, far forward, I hope) to lapsing into Irish Alzheimer’s – in which one forgest everything but one’s grudges. Even though I have no Irish in me (other than the Jameson’s & Harp that occasionally traverse my alimentary canal.)

    How’z’bout this: You and I ignore each other. Are you equal to that? Works for me.

    Do as you will. I reserve the right to note upon occasion – not for your benefit but for that of your readers – how your customary intentional incoherence disrespects them,

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    afanasia says:

    @Brachiator: The first quote from Pelosi in that article calls AOC a wonderful memeber of Congress.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    The facility opened in 1948 as New York International Airport [NB: IATA code IDL] and was commonly known as Idlewild Airport. Following John F. Kennedy’s assassination in 1963, the airport was renamed John F. Kennedy International Airport as a tribute to the 35th President.

    So really only Idlewild informally & for only 15 years. I wonder how long it took for people to get used to calling it JFK? My guess, the 2-3 years it took for the shock of the assassination to diminish.

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    afanasia says:

    @Brachiator: The first quote from Pelosi in that article calls AOC a wonderful member of Congress.

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    Adam Geffen says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I love surprises like that. :-D

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    tarragon says:

    @StringOnAStick:

    The Dollhouse Thieves

    Oooh thanks. I just started listening and it’s great so far.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Doug R: In fact not, since this refers (whether or not the Speaker actually said anything close to it) to the general election. Crowley was “Joe Glass-O’Water (D)” for 20 years before his primary loss to AOC.

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    sigyn says:

    @snoey: “If you want to shoot down an undeserved freebie eliminate the half price camping I get on my old folks access card.”

    Not when I’m just finding out about it!

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    Dan B says:

    @Immanentize: A Pence vs Pete debate would be good but it may not take that. The head of Operation Rescue is planning to protest (attack?) every Buttigieg appearance in Iowa. The christianists are ramping up the fury. The “debate” may happen in public. Pence can tut tut about how he worked with Pete.

    BTW the attacks on Pete will be consistent and persistent until they put a wedge between progressive men and women, between POC and gays, between centrists and anti-establishment Dems. Once that’s done the attacks will ramp up on Harris (wealthy, cop, not black?) and any other front runner. Who will this benefit?

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    Brachiator says:

    @afanasia:

    The first quote from Pelosi in that article calls AOC a wonderful memeber of Congress.

    Yep. The out of context stuff was misleading. Thanks.

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    catclub says:

    @J R in WV:

    I think the full-time civil service folks of DC are getting mighty tired of Trump’s bullshit,

    not just DC. OMB office is proposing another year of zero cost of living increase for fed workers.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @joel hanes: Well played, but I’d replace the last line with

    Abruptly.

    for greater effect.

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    debbie says:

    @MomSense:

    If you have the full Acrobat product, you can read who “owned” each page and when that page was created. I too am suspicious of this.

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