Thursday Morning Open Thread: Looking Elsewhere, Deliberately


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Seems like this week has been a month long already. Who’s up for a long weekend?

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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    rikyrah says:

    I just want to purchase a copy of the Aretha documentary.
    Just release it

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    prob50 says:

    Whatever they are doing has got to be a far sight more positive and human/humane than the fat ass-hat that currently resides there.

    This reminds me, I’ve been thinking of picking up Michelle O’s book. I figure it couldn’t hurt to read something by someone I respect and admire.

    Oh, yeah. Where are my manners? Uh, Good Morning, Everyone.

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    prob50 says:

    @rikyrah: Not a bad idea either. Thanks for the remind.

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    JPL says:

    Julian Assange was arrested by the London police. What happens next?

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    Spanky says:

    @rikyrah: (Looks around. Shrugs.)
    Blech?

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    NotMax says:

    Good price on a humongous tub of seedless black grapes at Costco. Munching on some right this moment. Weirdest grapes ever encountered – not a globe-shaped one anyplace in the container, each is the size and shape of my thumb.

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    geg6 says:

    Holy shit! Brits have arrested Assange! Via WaPo.

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    NotMax says:

    @JPL

    What happens next?

    He becomes acting head of DHS? //

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    Spanky says:

    @geg6: Heh! The Ecuadorians kicked him out. Wonder if they gave Scotland Yard a heads up.

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    Raven says:

    @Spanky: Interpol!

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    germy says:

    Just Posted: Maryanne Trump Barry, President Trump’s older sister, faced accusations of judicial misconduct over her role in the fraudulent tax schemes reported by The Times. She decided to retire, making her immune from misconduct proceedings. https://t.co/VKBBA8Vy1T— Susanne Craig (@susannecraig) April 10, 2019

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    p.a. says:

    @NotMax: 5:52 am and you win the day’s internet.

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    Jay says:

    “In a statement the Met police said: “The MPS had a duty to execute the warrant, on behalf of Westminster magistrates court, and was invited into the embassy by the ambassador, following the Ecuadorian government’s withdrawal of asylum.”

    The home secretary, Sajid Javid, said: “Nearly seven years after entering the Ecuadorian embassy, I can confirm Julian Assange is now in police custody and rightly facing justice in the UK. I would like to thank Ecuador for its cooperation & @metpoliceuk for its professionalism. No one is above the law.”

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/11/julian-assange-arrested-at-ecuadorian-embassy-wikileaks

    Glemn Greenwad’s butt clenches. Surgury is required.

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    bemused says:

    @geg6:

    Well, well, well, finally Assange’s gig is up but how do they get him out of embassy.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Per NY Times, Julian Assange has been arrested. Yippee. Talk, little man.

    Julian Assange was arrested. The WikiLeaks founder was evicted from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, where he had been living since 2012.
    Thursday, April 11, 2019 5:52 AM EST
    Mr. Assange faces a British charge of skipping bail and is wanted in the United States on charges of releasing secret documents.

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    JPL says:

    @germy: She retires to avoid investigation, while her brother marches on.

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    germy says:

    Can we all just appreciate for a moment that the older sister of the sitting President of the United States just retired so as to avoid an inquiry into a decades-long tax fraud scheme she participated in *with the President* (who is still in office) https://t.co/0BCKPw0ZNF— Robert Maguire (@RobertMaguire_) April 11, 2019

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    prob50 says:

    @bemused: On the tip of an Ecuadorean boot.

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

    @JPL: Finally.

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    bemused says:

    @prob50:

    From what I’ve read, he was a lousy tenant with very poor cleanliness habits so this has been long overdue for the embassy. Ewww.

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    Baud says:

    Reuters

    Britain has guaranteed to Ecuador that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will not be extradited to a country that has the death penalty, Ecuadorean President Lenin Moreno said on Thursday after Assange was arrested in London.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-assange-president/uk-pledges-it-wont-send-assange-to-country-with-death-penalty-ecuador-idUSKCN1RN135

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    germy says:

    Here’s footage. He was complaining loudly as they escorted him out:

    What a coincidence… only Russian TV team was there during the arrest of Assange pic.twitter.com/0BdoDNoTUy— Russian Market (@russian_market) April 11, 2019

    "The UK must resist," Julian Assange says as British police drag him out of the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he has been living since 2012https://t.co/kADRtrjorg pic.twitter.com/sQQhKH0Dzj— DAILY SABAH (@DailySabah) April 11, 2019

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    Montanareddog says:

    Hey, heh! Bundled into the police wagon looking like Gandalf.

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1116282326445481984?s=09

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    prob50 says:

    @bemused: Yeah, well fish and visitors do tend to stink after 7 years. Especially ones with questionable hygiene.

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    Spanky says:

    So is there going to be a British cat bleg, or will the Ecuadorians grant the kitty asylum? Must be a relief not having to hole up with that asshole.

    Eta – answer from Jay.

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    Baud says:

    @germy:

    The UK must resist

    Haha. The UK might not exist anymore if Brexit goes through. I’m sure Assange is the last thing on their minds.

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    prob50 says:

    “The UK must resist,” Julian Assange says as British police drag him out of the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

    I suspect his plaintive cries will be greeted mostly by deaf ears at this point.

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    Jay says:

    @Spanky:

    The cat was the first Assange hostage free’d, 6 months ago.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-julian-assange-frees-cat-from-ecuadorian-embassy-2018-11

    The SAS were not involved in freeing the Embassy Hostage.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Since Assange is a Russian asset, I expect the Russians to arrest some innocent Brits and arrange a prisoner exchange.

    It may take a couple of years, but eventually Colonel Abel Assange will be returned to his Russian handlers.

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    germy says:

    Ecuador, which took Assange in when he was facing a Swedish rape investigation in 2012, said it was rescinding asylum because he of his “discourteous and aggressive behavior” and for violating the terms of his asylum.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ifififif-wikileakss-julian-assange-evicted-from-ecuador-embassy-in-london/2019/04/11/1bd87b58-8f5f-11e8-ae59-01880eac5f1d_story.html?utm_term=.65ab169f04a4

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    Baud says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Assassination is more likely. The Russians don’t want to admit he’s an asset.

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    Jay says:

    @Baud:

    That’s okay, the cat is safe.

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    Baud says:

    @Jay: That really is the most important thing here.

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    rikyrah says:

    @JPL:
    Yeah👏👏👏👏

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    Jay says:

    @Baud:

    Brit’s moved the cat to their version of Witsec,

    RSPCA is much more effective than MI-5.

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    prob50 says:

    @Baud: The Russians don’t want to admit he’s an asset.

    But they would like their cat back.

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    Jay says:

    @NotMax:

    Saw some at Cave On,

    Fruit was on SWMBO’s list, weirded out, I got a mango and papaya instead.

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    NotMax says:

    The absence of satby hereabouts is becoming disturbing.

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    Jay says:

    Wikileaks twitter is hilarious,

    Blegging, and not for a good cause.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax:
    Agreed

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    Baud says:

    @NotMax: Oh no. How long has she been gone?

    ETA:. She posted yesterday.

    https://www.balloon-juice.com/2019/04/09/a-little-bixby-update/#comment-7251880

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    Immanentize says:

    @Baud:
    When you took some time away, did you negotiate with the Ecuadorans for the ouster of Assange? And I thought you had limited international chops. BAUD! 2020.

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    NotMax says:

    @Baud

    Around a week? Maybe a skooch more.

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    Jay says:

    @Immanentize:

    Satby was here yesterday, in the Bixby thread.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax: more. She left after the first Buttigieg melee. Didn’t even stop in on the weekend.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Jay: that’s a relief!

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    Aleta says:

    @NotMax: She was around a couple of nights ago. Thread about Bixby.

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    Baud says:

    @Immanentize:

    Yeah, it was on my way to visiting the Pope for a campaign boosting photo op.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    The chances of the Trump administration prosecuting Assange are remote.

    For an entertaining partial GoT recap, @notcapnamerica on Twitter just started watching the show and is live tweeting his reactions. He’s in Harrenhal now.

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    Baud says:

    @Immanentize:

    first Buttigieg melee.

    There was more than one?

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    debbie says:

    @JPL:

    He’s torn limb from limb by the various countries who want to prosecute him.

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    Jay says:

    @Immanentize:

    Some times people need to take some time away from the politics,

    Not the pets.

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    JPL says:

    @Baud: Thanks Baud.

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    debbie says:

    @germy:

    A. How long until Trump denies he has a sister?

    B. What a pit of vipers. She’s the one who discovered Trump was trying to rewrite Fred’s will to give himself total control over the estate.

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    p.a. says:

    @NotMax: @Baud: noted. as I asked recently, Corner Stone too. several others have been accounted for. also too, IIRC Redshirt? disappeared aft drumpf’s elaction.

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    Baud says:

    @debbie:

    He’s torn limb from limb by the various countries who want to prosecute him debbie.

    Fixed

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    Immanentize says:

    @Baud: Sadly, yes. Or maybe it was just one long continuous one.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Jay: Tru dat

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    NotMax says:

    @Jay

    Once you go Juice, you never cut loose.

    ;)

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    JPL says:

    @Baud: Clinton wants first dibs on the limbs

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    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    Heh, I have to go to work early to get my ass handed to me. I’m in just the right mood to deal with Mr. Assange, thank you very much.

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    Baud says:

    @NotMax:

    Once you go jackal, you never go back…el.

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    germy says:

    Does Assange have anything to fear from the U.S.?

    I recall Trump on the campaign trail saying “I love wikileaks!”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Soooo…. Anything happen while I was away?

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    Jay says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Some blech,…..

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: You noticed too.

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    trnc says:

    @germy:

    Can we all just appreciate for a moment that the older sister of the sitting President of the United States just retired so as to avoid an inquiry into a decades-long tax fraud scheme she participated in *with the President* (who is still in office)

    I hope this will be one of the exhibits when the tax returns demand goes to court.

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    NotMax says:

    @Aleta

    Mahalo.

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    James E Powell says:

    @germy:

    Tax fraud? Republicans deem tax fraud a virtue.

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    Lapassionara says:

    @germy: This makes her immune from judicial misconduct proceedings, but not from criminal proceedings. Maybe New York State will step up, now that she is no longer a judge.

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    satby says:

    @NotMax: @Immanentize: @Baud:
    I’m here, thanks.

    first Buttigieg melee.

    There was more than one?

    For a few days it was almost every thread. Fucking obnoxious. A complete repeat of the 2016 Wilmer-bro smear by tweet tactics. For a long shot candidate who threatens Wilmer way more than he does anyone else.
    Yes, it’s unfair the way media covers women candidates, but that’s not his fault. The media likes novelty acts, the first openly gay candidate is one. Dudes a decent guy, I put my IRL name, face, and credibility on the line to ask his chief of staff if they could have him maybe do a Q&A with the jackals, and people proceeded to show massive ass in multiple threads.
    I was embarrassed.
    And pissed.

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    Another Scott says:

    ‘morning everyone.

    I woke to the news that the UK police were invited in to arrest Assange. It’s a very good day.

    Sorry satby. We’re a noisy bunch here, but we’re (mostly) real people. And it’s still early. Maybe Buttigieg will still see the value in popping in some time in the future. Hang in there.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    satby says:

    @satby: I should also note that I’m doing home hospice on one of my dogs, so I may be testy….
    Nah, I was pissed before that started.

    @Another Scott: thanks Scott.

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    germy says:

    @Lapassionara: Donald’s insatiable thirst for the spotlight (starting with his press agent, moving on to movie cameos, finally ending in his presidential run) really ruined it for his siblings. They had a good grift going. No one was going to prosecute anything, if he’d only kept a low profile like his sister.

    I can just imagine her wailing “Donnie’s ruined everything again!”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @satby:

    I’m here, thanks.

    You were missed.

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    NotMax says:

    Yay. Discovered that the French police series Spiral is back to being available on Prime, this time seasons 1 through 6. Caught the first two seasons some while back on Netflix, then number three on Prime after which it disappeared from both venues altogether.

    (One caveat: the show doesn’t shy away from showing things grisly in detail.)

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    NotMax says:

    @satby

    Howdy. We kept the virtual coffee warm for you.

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    satby says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: 😘
    @Jay: thanks, didn’t think it would be that noticeable.

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    SFAW says:

    @James E Powell:

    Tax fraud? Republicans deem tax fraud a virtue.

    I was about to write “except if they get caught,” but realized they’d call it a “process crime” and move on. [Except in the case of a Dem, of course; then it’s a capital offense.]

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    satby says:

    @NotMax: enjoying some now, thanks!

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    eclare says:

    @satby: Totally understandable.

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    Immanentize says:

    @satby: oh I am so happy to see you.

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    Baud says:

    @satby:

    I’m sorry. You deserve better.

    FWIW, I think people are overcompensating for not standing up more strongly for Hillary in 2016 and letting the media and social media drive the narrative. But it sucks, especially because I prefer almost anyone to the two actual front runners.

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    Procopius says:

    If you want an excuse for a long weekend, this weekend is Songkran, the festival celebrating the Day of Maximum Insolation, when the sun is at the zenith at noon. Of course that is the 21st of April and Songkran is the 13th, 14th, and 15th, but there was probably a glitch when they changed from the lunar to the solar calendar. Anyway, it’s a water festival, so get a bucket and throw water on all your friends. Drinking too much is part of it, too.

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    JPL says:

    @satby: So sorry about the dog.

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    Buckeye says:

    Has anyone done a welfare check on Greenwald?

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    eclare says:

    @satby: I’m sorry about your dog.

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    Kay says:

    @germy:

    It’s just amazing, though, how Trumpism doesn’t fly anywhere outside the Presidency.

    We’re in the ridiculous position where the presidency has much lower standards than, oh, sitting on the federal bench or working for a major corporation. Kirstjen Nielsen can hold an incredibly powerful position within the Trump Administration but she’s too damaging for a commercial “brand” to be associated with her outside that rock bottom collection of individuals.

    It’s 100% true too. If Trump were the CEO of a major company they would remove him – what he said in his first campaign alone would make him a public relations problem they don’t want. Yet he’s the face of the United States. We’ve carved out a special low standards spot for Donald Trump- it just happens to be the presidency.

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    SFAW says:

    @satby:

    thanks, didn’t think it would be that noticeable.

    Oh, were you gone?

    Just kidding, glad you’re back.

    ETA: Yeah, I realize less than 24 hours probably does not qualify as being gone long enough to be “back.”

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    satby says:

    @Another Scott: I was thinking of you and your late pup; as my Hershey has the kind of tumor on the spleen I seem to remember yours passed away from. The doctor told me they’re often not discovered until the dog has died.

    His was discovered as they were doing X-rays for his severe arthritis. Surgery isn’t really advisable, since he’s already outlived his expected life span by at least two years, and his mobility issues cause him more pain. So we’re doing meds to give him relief from that while I spoil him rotten for the next few weeks, or until the tumor becomes more of a rupture threat.
    He’s my best boy, even after losing weight he’s 110 lbs of pure snuggles.

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    SFAW says:

    @Buckeye:

    welfare check on Greenwald?

    I saw that, and all I could think of was “his welfare check comes from the Bank of Moskva.”

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    satby says:

    Thanks everyone, but for now my buddy is doing a bit better and we’re getting a chance to have some weeks of pure joy. So sad, not sad yet.

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    germy says:

    DHS, FBI say election systems in ALL 50 states were targeted by Russian hackers in 2016, revising the number up from 21. https://t.co/yyDft7nsok— Justin Hendrix (@justinhendrix) April 10, 2019

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    MomSense says:

    I’m doing this test knitting gig for a yarn company. It was a hippie company purchased by a larger company – but still a small company. Anyway the person coordinating this warned me about the pattern because it’s an old pattern they want to re release. It doesn’t have diagrams, no row count, some of the instructions aren’t very clear. I started on it last night and it’s like all the patterns were for most of my knitting life. I actually find it refreshing not to have a 12 page pattern with schematics, indexes, and all the rest.

    I feel like telling them that if they think this knitting pattern is reckless they would be horrified that we used to lie down in the back of the station wagon on long trips – after unbuckling our lap only seatbelts and flopping ourselves over the seat back.

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    Kay says:

    @germy:

    I recall Trump on the campaign trail saying “I love wikileaks!”

    I don’t know how to break it to Assange, but I don’t think Donald Trump’s word is good.

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    SFAW says:

    @satby:
    I’m sorry about your pup. Sending hugs your way (and his, I guess).

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    MomSense says:

    @satby:

    Poor sweetie. It sounds like the two of you are making the most of this time together. It’s all about the love now.

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    Baud says:

    @satby: I just went through that. I’m still not sure I can deal. It seems to be happening to do many of us at once.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense:

    unbuckling our lap only seatbelts

    Youngster.

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    SFAW says:

    @Kay:

    I don’t know how to break it to Assange, but I don’t think Donald Trump’s word is good.

    Careful, young lady! If the Oval Office Occupant hears about you saying that, he’ll have you arrested for treason.

    Of course, hearing about that, Turtle will immediately go to Speaker Pelosi, and tell her to start impeachment proceedings, and he’ll guarantee 80 votes to convict.
    .
    .
    .
    I swear, I crack myself up sometimes.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Montanareddog:
    Gandalf😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

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    rikyrah says:

    @satby:
    Oh satby,
    So sorry 😪😪😪

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    SFAW says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Youngster.

    “Lap belts? Pure luxury! In my day, we had to use thick hemp rope to tie ourselves to the roof of our flivver.”
    “At least you had a flivver! In MY day …”

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    rikyrah says:

    😠😠😠

    Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) Tweeted:
    Just learned Trump DOJ has now abandoned its defense of the statute criminalizing, of all things, female genital mutilation. This is what happens when you torch your institutional responsibilities to defend statutes, and gut the traditional standard DOJ has applied in past admin https://t.co/VsWjX3DCFI https://twitter.com/neal_katyal/status/1116153217354731520?s=17

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Kim Kardashian West says she is studying to become a lawyer

    Yet another sign that the Gods must be crazy.

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    Kay says:

    @germy:

    My own opinion is all the people like Assange who are supporting the far Right here and in other countries because they see the far Right as disruptive of old orders and institutions are going to find out that there is an authoritarian ideology on the far Right that comes along right behind the “disruption” and it’s here. That will now come to the fore.

    They thought it would be freer without institutions, but that isn’t how this works- the far Right just puts in their own institutions and those will be less free. They’re in power now, and that’s different than being insurgents. They’ll wield it.

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    rikyrah says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    She has to go to college first 😒😒

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    rikyrah says:

    So, what was this exchange between Barr and Leahy about?🤔🤔

    https://twitter.com/dcpoll/status/1116060272005980161

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    NotMax says:

    @MomSense

    With the rear window cranked down so we could take in the sweet, sweet exhaust fumes being sucked through it.

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    Kay says:

    @SFAW:

    Trump doesn’t believe in the rule of law, which all these people found delightful and revolutionary. “Burn it down!”

    Except Trump doesn’t believe in the rule of law, and the law involves protections for people like Assange. Now it’s less delightful and instead is terrifying, because Trump is really powerful. Did you hear him yesterday urging the military to “get rough” on the asylum seekers? Their disruptive destroyer of the status quo is an authoritarian.

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    eclare says:

    @MomSense: Rode in the backs of cars plenty of times with no seat belt. The back area of the Travelall was a free area. Plus, all windows rolled up with Dad puffing away!

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    MomSense says:

    @rikyrah:

    Apparently there is an apprenticeship process in some states (TJefferson became a lawyer the same way) that doesn’t require a law school or college degree. She has a sponsoring attorney.

    Guess this is a good place to drop links to two songs from an Austin lawyers singing group. They are pretty funny even for non-lawyers.
    I’m billing time
    And this one is about federal judges.

    appointed forever

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    rikyrah says:

    Neera Tanden (@neeratanden) Tweeted:
    There are many cultists on this site, but the Assange cultists are the worst. Assange was the agent of a proto fascist state, Russia, to undermine democracy. That is fascist behavior. Anyone on the left should abhor what he did. Not celebrate it. https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/1116287237354852352?s=17

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    MomSense says:

    @NotMax: @eclare:

    Parents didn’t smoke but I do remember rolling down the window at the gas station to take a huge whiff of that sweet,sweet smelling leaded gas.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @rikyrah: Perjury.

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    Immanentize says:

    @rikyrah:
    Wow. Trump and Barr are in favor of female genital mutilation?

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    MomSense says:

    @rikyrah:

    Barr: no, nervous laugh nervous laugh, I wasn’t alone, chuckle, there were a couple of Supreme Court Justices there.

    Leahy: so anyone who overheard you would be wrong

    Barr: 2 second wide eyed flash of surprise, nervous chuckle,

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @rikyrah: While he’s right on this point, dude needs to sit back down and shut up for a good long while after his support of his good friend Gorsuch.

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    NotMax says:

    @MomSense

    And (twitch) we (rapid blinking) turned out (snort) okay (twitch).

    :)

    BTW, TV series you might take a shine to on Prime (if not already seen), William and Mary.

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    Kay says:

    @satby:

    I think one of the things we’re going to find out in the primary is whether people- regular voters, not the most engaged- will respond to a general message of positivity more than relying on a specific set of requirements or issues re: the candidates.

    The Trump people- and Trumpism- is relentlessly negative and nasty and ungenerous and I wonder if people are tired of that, so someone like Mayor Pete or Cory Booker or Joe Biden – what I think of as the “positive” candidates is what they’re looking for. Booker and Biden particularly have this insistent upbeat approach – which is partly temperament- and that may be what people are looking for as a counter to Trump’s nastiness – his just plain meanness. Trump at base is a nasty piece of work- he’s negative. There’s no generosity or expansiveness. Clinton said it “wouldn’t wear well” and we’re about to find out if it does or not.

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    MomSense says:

    @NotMax:

    Ooh, thanks. Cole’s twitter got me to try Sabrina but it’s a little too meh for me.

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    prob50 says:

    @MomSense:OT, but I remember back to when I was 16 pumping gas at a car wash my Dad owned. After pumping 3,000+ gallons of it on a 95-100 degree summer Saturday in the San Fernando Valley it wasn’t such a pleasant or sweet smell. Clothes and everything reeked of it – hands too, not to mention the headache, Today I always wear vinyl gloves when I pump my own gas, even though it’s no longer leaded it’s still not all that good for you. But as obvious as it seems today we never really thought it was anything more than stinky, somewhat unpleasant stuff that you did as part of a common, everyday summer vacation job.

    But hey, at least I didn’t have to check your oil and water and tire pressure too.

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    Immanentize says:

    @MomSense:
    I posted “I’m Billing Time” before — it’s a hoot! Thanks for reminding me.

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    Kay says:

    @satby:

    I think someone like Schultz would have gone further had he been more positive. Jesus, but he is a SCOLD. It’s one long complaint, one long criticism. He’s fundamentally unsuited to the role he decided to play, the “independent savior who shows us a way forward”. He’s nasty and critical and negative. Every word out of his mouth is some variation of “no”.

    Maybe that’s gone in the US, the kind of yearning for optimism so it no longer flies as an approach, but I wonder if it is. If it still exists, a Biden or a Booker or a Mayor Pete are offering it.

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    tobie says:

    @rikyrah: I like the first reader comment in that thread that the House should impeach Barr for obstruction in refusing to release the report and get the report that way. Someone’s got to stand up for transparency, and it seems like the House will have to use whatever political muscle it has since the courts won’t step in to help.

    Anyhoo…it’s good to know that justice finally caught up with Assange and that he’ll have to face charges in the UK. Spill the beans, a-hole, if you’re really a transparency advocate and just want to see everything out there.

    @satby: Good to have you back and all good wishes for peace in your time with Hershey.

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    rikyrah says:

    Neophyte Twit (@makk1123) Tweeted:
    It’s happening folks!
    He’s got his Supreme Court in place.
    He’s got his AG in place.
    He has a sympathetic senate that’s bought and paid for.
    He’s ridding himself of anyone that opposes him and not replacing them.
    The dictatorship is here.
    This is a fkn national emergency https://twitter.com/makk1123/status/1116113581047799808?s=17

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    Immanentize says:

    @MomSense:
    My dad smoked like 3 packs a day in the 60s and 70s. When driving, he would flick the ash, and often the butts, out the little wing window (I love those things). More than once, the still-burning ash would blow back against the car and get stuck in the rear side window edge starting a little fire in the felt window seal.

    Why do I find that memory so comforting?

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    NotMax says:

    @MomSense

    I jokingly refer to Sabrina as Purgatory 90210. Not my cauldron of tea.

    ;)

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense: @Immanentize: Billing time always reminds of the scene in Intolerable Cruelty where Miles Massey is first summoned to see Herb.

    Eighty-five lunches charged, at full attorney rate.
    Counselor…
    you are the engine…
    that drives this firm.

    I wish I could find the scene, or the dialogue in it’s entirety. Not the Coen brothers best movie, but it does have it’s moments.

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    MomSense says:

    @prob50:

    Yeah lobster is also great until you help busloads of people “open it” day after day, all summer long.

    I do remember my friend’s dad coming home from the gas station and they had a whole production for washing his clothes separately as soon as he came in the door. I bet their septic tank was full of lead and oil now that I think about it.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize: Bring back wing windows!!!

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    Immanentize says:

    @MomSense: I worked in a clam bar in a restaurant in upstate NY when I was 18. To this day, I can’t abide oysters because of that experience.

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    NotMax says:

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Hear hear! A loss still keenly felt.

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    Immanentize says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    I used to have a few rules about cars that I bought
    1. Wing windows
    2. Rear windows had to roll all the way down
    3. Round headlights
    4. When you opened the hood, you had to be able to see the ground past the engine.

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    rikyrah says:

    You know the reason… He is White😒😒

    thefieldnegro (@fieldnegro) Tweeted:
    Deputy’s son arrested in connection to fires at historically black churches. Imagine if a Muslim had burned three white evangelical churches in Alabama….Why is this not being declared an act of domestic terrorism? https://t.co/VVlh2qbsrr via @nypost https://twitter.com/fieldnegro/status/1116319304067244032?s=17

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    @Immanentize: My BIL worked at an IHOP in HS and to this day can’t eat pancakes, which is much sadder.

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    rikyrah says:

    STFU and grow a pair.
    He is NOT a Publisher😠😠😠

    Get on my last goddamn nerve. Grow a phucking pair😠😠

    Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) Tweeted:
    Assange sucks but prosecuting publishers seems extremely dangerous and troubling to me. https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1116288981069647872?s=17

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    NotMax says:

    @Immanentize

    Aw, shucks.

    ;)

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    Immanentize says:

    @rikyrah:
    If all Assange and WikiLeaks did was publish secret documents, I would agree with Yglesias. But that is not all he did. He conspired to steal classified documents then publish them.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax:
    You’re here all week, right? Tip the clam guy.

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    prob50 says:

    @MomSense: @Immanentize: Ah, yes. The summer jobs of our youth. Not always fun, but I did manage to save enough to live on for a year or more after I dropped out of college. Dad wasn’t real thrilled, but I have to say it was kind of…well, kind of a gas, actually

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    Immanentize says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:
    That is sad. But IHOP syrups were not very good.

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    MomSense says:

    @Immanentize:

    What the shuck!

    There are a bunch of oyster controversies in Maine because of the clashes between oyster farming businesses and the Not On My Shore Line people. They sell for 2.25 – 2.50 per oyster at the fish markets.

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    Booger says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: And the pronunciation: “…dat drives dis FOIM.”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize:

    4. When you opened the hood, you had to be able to see the ground past the engine.

    My requirement was that you should be able to CLIMB IN WITH the engine. Sign… I’ll never be able to do that again.

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    Immanentize says:

    @prob50: What is this? Does your act follow or come on before NotMax’s? Who is sitting the door?

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    NotMax says:

    @Immanentize

    Codicil to #4: Preferably unable to see the ground past the floorboards.

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    Immanentize says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Ahhh, the straight six truck…. With three on the tree.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize: Oh yeah and

    3. Round headlights

    I never cared much one way or the other about the shape, but I always thought it should not take more than a few minutes to change a headlight. I had to disassemble the front end of a Buick once just to replace a bulb.

    Insane.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax:
    Well, some of my short time cars failed that rule.

    How fast are we going? I dunno, speedometer’s broke — look down and guess.

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    prob50 says:

    @Immanentize said: . When you opened the hood, you had to be able to see the ground past the engine.

    Yes, I remember that my first car, a ’62 Ford Falcon, was like that. Not so much my 2nd, though – my Dad’s old, big-assed ’62 Cadillac (the ones with reduced fins, sort of like “C” cups rather than Double-D’s).

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Booger: Yes.

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    Immanentize says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    My ideal car that I got in ’91 was a ’63 Dodge Dart with Torquflite! transmission — read “push button.” On the dash. I did indeed buy it from the original owner, then a little old lady (actually her son did the deal) who mostly only drove it to the grocery store and church.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: I once had a Ford Bronco I could see the ground thru the floor boards. Came in handy for those times I accidentally locked my keys in the truck, but it really sucked driving thru puddles.

    @Immanentize: Best dawgdamned engine ever built. Blew the head gasket on one and managed to drive it for almost 6 weeks more until I found another truck. Drove it into the junkyard.

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    prob5 says:

    @Immanentize: Let’s see, to answer you question(s): (1)dunno, (2) whoever shows up 1st, if reasonably sober, and (3) No one.

    Bah-dah-bing.

    Say, what was this thread about anyway?

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    NotMax says:

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Hoary joke (truncated version).

    An Israeli farmer is visiting the U.S. to get tips on agriculture and as a part of his visit is taken on a visit to a ranch in Texas. Introductory pleasantries out of the way, the following ensues:

    Texan: So how big is your farm?

    Israeli: Let me put it this way. I can get in my car at one end and it takes me nearly an hour to drive to the other. How about you?

    Texan: Son, I can get in my car at the crack of dawn and not reach the other side ’til well past sunset.

    IsraelI: Yeah, I had a car like that once, too.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize: I once knew a gal who had one of those. It was kind of… Mind warping. Nowadays, most 4WD have push button transfer cases. I am not real trusting of them.

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    prob50 says:

    OK, way past several of my bedtimes. Will once again try to sleep.

    later

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I did a summer in a yogurt factory. Was probably 15-20 years before I had yogurt again.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: Heh.

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    @Gin & Tonic: Yeah, apparently you can get too much of a good thing.

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    MomSense says:

    @NotMax:

    I’ve heard that same joke except it was a Maine farmer and a Texas rancher.

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I hadn’t a car like that. It was held together with bondo, duct tape, and coat hangers.

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    satby says:

    @rikyrah: thanks rikyrah!

    @OzarkHillbilly: think’m so old we rode standing up on the front seat as wee ones with only our parents out-thrust arm as a barrier to going through the windshield in a sudden stop.

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    NotMax says:

    @satby

    Those were the days my friend
    We thought they’d never end
    We’d sing and dance forever and a day
    We’d live the life we choose
    We’d fight and never lose
    For we were young and sure to have our way

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @satby: We used to get yelled at to “SIT DOWN!” on a semi regular basis but it was never a matter of safety. It was because we were having too much fun. Either that or the fights were getting out of control.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Immanentize: Didn’t he also plant fake emails?

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    MomSense says:

    @satby:

    We called that the stop short decapitation strike.

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    Another Scott says:

    @satby: Thanks. Hemangiosarcoma is a very unpleasant disease. :-( I’m sorry your Hershey is going through that.

    Here’s hoping that his last days are comfortable. Hang in there.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

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    NotMax says:

    @OzarkHillbilly

    There are advantages to being an only child.

    ;)

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    satby says:

    @MomSense: 😱😂

    @Another Scott: thanks. And condolences again. What a shocker it is.

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    Tazj says:

    @satby: I sat on my brother’s lap in the back seat of our car when our station wagon died. I also rode in the back of a pick up truck as a child.
    @Immanentize: I used to like the smell of cigarette smoke outside. I don’t smoke and neither did my parents, but when I was little most people did, so whenever we had parties or relatives over, the house was filled with smoke.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: My wife disagrees. :-( She had always wanted a sibling, somebody to share more than just memories with. My mother always said, “The best thing we ever gave you guys was each other.” She was right.

    Whenever my sons started fighting, not arguing but fighting, I would always admonish them with the statement that “Someday I am going to die, and your brother is the only person you will be able to count on.”

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    NotMax says:

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Speaking of which, how is NOLA* son progressing?

    *Hoping I remember his location correctly.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: He’s doing well. Finally back at work and able to stay on his feet all day (not w/o pain tho). It’s a good place to work and they pay well too. Keeping my fingers crossed that he and his SO have finally turned a corner. They’ve had a few rough years.

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    tarragon says:

    @Baud:

    Yeah, it was on my way to visiting the Pope for a campaign boosting photo op.

    Which appears to be filtered on all social media. Who forgot to wear pants in the photo?

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @NotMax: I’ve had those – moondrops? They are very good.

    Morning jackals!

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    evodevo says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yes! And get to all the parts to repair them without taking out half the other parts to get to it lol

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    Brachiator says:

    @rikyrah:

    Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) Tweeted:
    Assange sucks but prosecuting publishers seems extremely dangerous and troubling to me.

    Trump may be looking to make an example of the fake news media. His supporters will be cackling like fools all the way.

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    Another Scott says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz-mpgYNUW8

    It’s a hoot. Thanks for the pointer.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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