GOP Stupidity Open Thread: Devin Nunes Is… Seriously Misled About the Internet

*Somebody* on his pricey legal team should’ve explained the Streisand Effect… or at least a little more about how American libel law works. Because Rep. Nunes just stepped up on a global platform wearing a giant MOCK ME t-shirt…

If you’re a connoisseur of snark, it’s worth clicking on any of the his tweets to read Gabriel Malor’s whole thread:

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Devin Nunes parody accounts spikes in Twitter followers after Congressman’s lawsuit

    While Nunes’ Mom was somewhat well known among left activist circles, @DevinCow was new for many Twitter users. In one hour, the cow account doubled it’s Twitter following, according to former Republican consultant Cheri Jacobus. Just 30 minutes later – the followers spiked to triple, bringing its mockery to even more people than before the lawsuit.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    These are my two favorites:

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    And the best response is from a dominatrix who describes herself this way:

    Erotic hypnodomme, proud sex worker, gamer, atheist, skeptic, & geek. Making the world a little better, one orgasm at a time

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    danielx says:

    My man Devin is going to immediately appeal to the Supreme Court when his suit is thrown out of court. Where well-known 1st Amendment advocate Clarence Thomas will save the day and, not coincidentally, Devin’s ass from a mountain of legal bills. Shazam, Republican triumph and much applause from the orange git!

    I scare myself sometimes.

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    Jay says:

    “Devin Nunes’ cow Retweeted

    Rebecca Schoenkopf, Wonkette Editrix, King Of You
    Devin Nunes’s lawsuit suing Devin Nunes’s Cow is so unbelievable I am actually going to write about it in the morning. The lawyering is so bad it honestly sounds like Larry Klayman. But this lawyer’s only been suspended twice and reprimanded once, so it ain’t him.”

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jay: But this lawyer was involved with the Paula Jones’ lawsuit, so Klayman adjacent.

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    Jay says:

    There’s now @Devin Nunes Lawyer and @Devin Nunes Penis

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    jl says:

    Let’s just hope for Nunes’ sake that the lawyers did some due diligence and checked that his mom and one of his cows were not behind the twitter accounts.
    But from comments regarding the quality of the pleading, maybe not. IANAL.

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    Jay says:

    In moderation for the p word.

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    debbie says:

    From the snippets above, Trump definitely wrote it for Nunes.

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    debbie says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The grifters are grifting the grifters!

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    But her emails!!! says:

    Twitter and the cow should counter sue Nunes for 1 billion dollars for violation of their free speech rights. He’s an elected government official and this action is deliberately and maliciously intended to create a chilling effect on speech.

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    satby says:

    I wonder if the name DevinNunes’ass has already been claimed on Twitter.

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    randy khan says:

    I’m glad to know that Nunes is spending his time on this sort of thing, rather than, oh, trying to waste money in the Azores or something.

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    danielx says:

    5. OMG Nunes included this tweet in his complaint.

    — Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) March 18, 2019

    That is fucking disgusting.

    Also accurate, I can see why Devin is upset.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Anne Laurie, did you see the Papillon who won her agility division at Westminster?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @jl: I’m going to laugh my ass of when discovery turns up that that is, in fact, his mother’s twitter account.

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    Wag says:

    Does anyone else find it interesting/suspicious that all the RWNJ lawsuits are for the same amount of money?

    MAGA hat boy vs WP—$250 m
    MAGA hat boy vs CNN—$250 M
    Nunes VW Twitter— $250 M

    Is a quarter billion the new cool?

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    Jay says:


    There has been a twitter Gold Rush on @Devin Nunes Nyms,

    Stake your claim fast.

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    The shadowban conspiracy theory is so insanely stupid. Right-wing idiots and alt-right crazies and their ilk find themselves muted on twitter for two reasons:

    1. Distributed database errors that actually everybody experiences now and then
    2. Their activity is indistinguishable from that of a bot or a Russian troll, and they get automatically flagged, then reviewed by hand


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    From the snippets above, Trump definitely wrote it for Nunes.

    No way. It’s neatly typed, not scrawled in illegible sharpie.

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    jl says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m more worried about the cow. I think Nunes sold most of his California stock. Could be some very disgruntled cows out there. But, IANAL.

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    tom says:

    Conservatives are such snowflakes

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Wag: Actually this is $250K punitive and $350K compensatory. So he wants $600K total.

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    joel hanes says:

    You know that list of the stupidest Republicans?

    Ol’ Devin’s trying to dethrone ol’ Gohmert, who has outlasted and out-stupided serious challengers such as Blake Farenthold

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @jl: I’ll make a call. We’ll get eyes on station…

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    danielx says:

    Rep. Nunes says today’s lawsuit is “the first of many.”

    Nunes says “we’re actually going after Twitter first” because “they are the main proliferator, and they spread this fake news and this slanderous news.”

    — Friendly Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) March 19, 2019

    Is it possible to overdose on irony? Given that the chief spreader of fake news and slander on Twitter is the one to whose gargantuan ass Devin’s lips are firmly and semi-permanently affixed?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @joel hanes: I hope those two women got paid very well.

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    Mary G says:

    I follow Liz Mair and can’t even remember seeing her tweet about Ninny. I was one of the ones who immediately followed @devincow. Mom’s account has been suspended, prolly because of the above cartoon.

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    Wag says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That picture is worth a thousand words, followed by ten thousand bars of soap to wash out my eyes.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    There may be something to this Jexodus thing after all…

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    I think Nunes sold most of his California stock. Could be some very disgruntled cows out there. But, IANAL.

    I would think the cattle would be very happy to have a less awful owner.

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    Suzanne says:

    So so exhausted. Spawn started at his new school today, so I had to get him all registered. Then had to do the three-hour glucose test, which required fasting and left me absolutely wrecked. Then did some work from home, then left to pick up Spawn at new school. Then more work. Then bought a new air conditioner. Then more work.

    I need a vacation. Maternity leave doesn’t count.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    An explosive new report from the New York Times claims that Deutsche Bank employees determined that President Donald Trump was lying to them about his personal wealth, which was vastly less than what he’d claimed.

    According to the Times, Trump tried to secure a loan for a hotel project in Chicago by telling Deutsche Bank that he was worth $3 billion. After examining his finances, however, bank employees put his estimated net worth at just $788 million, or less than one third what he had claimed.

    Bank fraud and falsifying business records are felonies in New York state, punishable by a 8 to 25 year prison sentence.

    This will make a great episode of “Law and Order” staring Alec Baldwin

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mary G: She organized and raised the funds for a series of billboard, print, TV, and radio ads targeting Nunes over the winery party and other matters in the attempt to get him voted out of office. She would tweet out whenever the anti-Nunes campaign did anything.

    She’s also bugfuck nuts. She’s from Seattle, but apparently decided that while a student at St. Andrews in Scotland (she got their right after I finished up, so I don’t know her – I may know her husband, but I’m not 100% sure on that) that she’s really a Tory from Manchester, England.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Happy Infrastructure Week!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Wag: You’re welcome!

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    joel hanes says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    You should read Juanita Jean’s for the coverage of Dan Patrick and Sid Miller and the grassroots politics of Sugarland, TX (DeLay’s old district). She and her husband are hard-core Democratic organizers; the blog ran a successful moneyraising campaign to canvass senior dems and help them with voting by mail, and they met their goals.
    She’s previously been delightful on Governor Goodhair and all things Texas.

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    danielx says:


    Flounder without the charm.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Associate Justice (ret) Kennedy’s son is in a lot of trouble.

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    Holy Christ. That’s all I have to say about this. I mean, shit, I knew the guy was a grade-A dumbfuck, but jeez. Holy Christ…

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    I sure hope he gets nailed for some serious punitive damages in the inevitable anti-SLAPP counter suit.

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    Jay says:

    “The High Court in London heard on Monday that Cambridge Analytica was up to its old tricks from beyond the grave—by surreptitiously trying to halt investigations that could expose allegedly nefarious tactics before the company was shut down for good.
    The company filed for the British equivalent of chapter 11 bankruptcy last year after secret recordings of its boss, Alexander Nix, emerged in which he claimed that Trump’s data gurus had carried out illicit election campaigns all over the world. The company was also accused of using up to 87 million clandestinely harvested Facebook profiles to create a state of the art voter database that helped Trump win election in 2016.
    A lawyer representing a New York professor, who believes his private data was misused by the notorious campaign operatives, claims Cambridge Analytica’s data secrets are being shielded from justice and exposure by administrators in the pay of a shadow company set up by a band of executives linked to the Trump campaign veterans.
    The High Court heard that administrators had deliberately misled a judge during a previous hearing by obfuscating their financial links to Emerdata, a company which was set up by Nix, Rebekah Mercer, and other senior figures who were previously involved with Cambridge Analytica.
    In Britain, court-appointed administrators are supposed to work independently on behalf of all creditors to take over running of the company, similar to chapter 11 bankruptcy in the U.S. But the legal team of David Carroll, an associate professor at Parsons School in New York who is fighting for access to the data compiled on him, claimed that the administrators of Cambridge Analytica has succumbed to undue influence. Emerdata appointed the administrator and subsequently committed to pay them up to $1 million in fees.
    The administrators, Vincent Green and Mark Newman of Crowe U.K. LLP, were accused of trying to liquidate the company before a full investigation into the company could be held.
    “It is extremely unusual, in my submission, to have the fees of an administrator underwritten effectively by the people who may themselves be the principal focus of any subsequent investigation,” said Andreas Gledhill Q.C., the lawyer representing Carroll in court.
    …“This needs to go to the official receiver and there needs to be a whole set of investigations—someone needs to crack the vault,” Ravi Naik, a lawyer for Carroll told The Daily Beast outside court. “Without this case being successful, there cannot be an investigation because the company will liquidate. This is the dying embers.”
    In documents submitted to the court, Gledhill claimed that Emerdata was due to pay the administrator up to £800,000 ($1 million) but had only handed over around £220,000 ($290,000) so far.
    “With their legal fees funded by Emerdata, the administrators have treated this as hostile litigation between themselves and Mr. Carroll, making their lack of independence abundantly clear,” Gledhill said.

    …Rebekah and Jennifer Mercer, daughters of billionaire Trump donor Robert Mercer, are listed as directors of Emerdata. As is former Cambridge Analytica chairman Julian Wheatland, who is named on the list of people close to President Trump being probed by the House Judiciary Committee, alongside Nix, who resigned as a director of Emerdata on the same day that he was called back for further questioning by a committee in Britain’s House of Commons. Nix remains a shareholder. “

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @joel hanes: I’ve read some of it.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Do you have the time and money for a brief babymoon? Groupon Getaways has had some amazing local deals here in LA.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Good. Arrest his azz😠😠

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Apparently the entire Nunes family is a bunch of creepy bugfuck nuts loons!

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    joel hanes says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    It’s not all great, but it’s all Texas.

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    @Adam L Silverman: My multiple day from hell at work just improved 100% by me not being that grandma.

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    Dr. Ronnie James, D.O. says:

    Watch – the suit will get dropped when we learn Devin Nunes’ actual Mom is behind the accounts.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Wow, that was amazing!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @joel hanes: True.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Black_Onion: You’re welcome!

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    Mnemosyne says:


    My previous comment timed out before I had an example link, but here’s one in Scottsdale:

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    Suzanne says:


    Question: how much overlap is there between intactivists and incels?

    Another question: do ALL libertarians and incels like prog rock, or just MOST?

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    LDM says:

    Long time lurker. Love all ya all. I do the legal thing. Read the Complaint earlier and note Nunes’ attorney has an EarthLink email address. Wtf didn’t know EarthLink was still around. More importantly, this hack is using unsecured BS email. If an attorney on the other side of a deal or lawsuit is utilizing gmail or some other free service, that’s a giveaway that you’re dealing with a dimwit. Wonder how his malpractice/errors and omissions insurance carrier feels about that. Dumbasses with confidential, privileged communications on a third party server. Just evidence that Nunes could not find a solid attorney to take this matter. This guy must really need the money because he can’t afford a proper secured server and back up system.

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    jl says:

    I’ll join a few other brave commenters above in lightening up the mood, and providing uplift. Though maybe someone else posted something on this.
    Eight year old kid from homeless Nigerian refugee family wins NY state chess championship. Has been playing for only about a year. Learned chess in the homeless shelter.

    8-year-old living in homeless shelter wins New York chess championship: ‘I want to be the youngest grandmaster’

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    Suzanne says:

    @Mnemosyne: I don’t have time. Just wrote some project schedules today. All I can say is that Boog better not come early!

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    jl says:

    @Mnemosyne: Thanks. Wonderfully inspiring and cute video.
    But I also liked the shaggy dog that ignored the whole course and spent the time running around the ring panting at grinning at the crowd.
    Saw that this weekend someplace.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Suzanne: In order.

    1) I hope not.

    2) I would expect a lot.

    3) I do not know.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    WTF? Yang is surely aware that for Jewish and Muslim parents, there is no option not to circumcise. Also too, about those guys who claim that being circumcised in early infancy has desensitised the head of their tepee: how do they know? Were they sexually active beforehand?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    how do they know? Were they sexually active beforehand?

    Some questions are best left unasked or, at least, unanswered.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Hilarious and adorable. I thought your link might be to this video, another favorite.

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    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Holy shit. Won’t make a dent into the bubble that Trump supporters immerse themselves in.

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    jl says:

    @Jay: Thanks. that’s the one I saw. That dog deserves some kind of award too. Not sure what kind of award, but something.

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    Jay says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    It’s a MRA trope, a scam, fauxscience,

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    Jay says:



    Box of Milkbones?

    Dried Salmon Skin rolls?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Amir Khalid: Most of this is driven by two different, though often overlapping, belief systems. The first is anti-Semitism and now anti-Muslim animus. The second is the mens rights activists crap.

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    Jay says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And lawyers willing to take money from suckers.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Jay: Suckers are entitled to their day in court just like anyone else.

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    Suzanne says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Also too, about those guys who claim that being circumcised in early infancy has desensitised the head of their tepee: how do they know?

    They KNOW because women are EVIL and they never miss an opportunity to nurse a grievance.

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    If you live in or close to Southern California…run, don’t walk to the bloom at Lake Elsinore. On a blog related note, remember the pic of people taking pics of the flowers with a sign in front of them saying to not disturb the flowers that Cole posted? It gets worse, they actually have an area where you can take pics next to the flowers, and assholes still trample the flowers in the area that’s posted.

    (I’m cranky due to the long drive down to Oceanside(Mission Saint Louis Rey) and then back up by Lake Elsinore).

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    Jay says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Up here, the suckers don’t get their day in Court.

    They “register” for a Class Action Lawsuit by filling out:

    – an online proof of personage and standing, ( great for identity theft)
    – an online claim of loss and damages, ( perfect for blackmail)
    – and paying a “refundable deposit” of $150-$250 online, ( great for skimming)

    Then they never hear another word from the Lawfirm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe.

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    SFAW says:

    I can hardly wait for the day that the jury comes back and says “Your Honor, based on the testimony, we agree that soon-to-be-ex-Rep Nunes is, in fact, treasonous, so we hold Twitter, his “Twitter mom,” and his “Twitter cow” blameless, and order him to pay restitution in the amount of $250,000,000.01 Oh, and because he’s such a lying shitweasel, we ask the Court to impose a sentence of 200,000 hours of community service, to be served in Lajes in the Azores. And, if it please the Court, one final comment: Fuck him, and everybody that looks like him.”

    OK, I know that’s not how it really works, but a kid can dream, can’t he?

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    West of the Rockies says:

    OT… Warren says we should have discussions about reparations. Should they be considered for Native Americans as well? Anyone have any thoughts?

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    ola azul says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Also too, about those guys who claim that being cirumcised in early infancy has desensitised the head of their tepee: how do they know? Were they sexually active beforehand?

    Bit of anecdata, fwiw. Another lifetime ago, usedta have a bidness selling framed pics (some were mine, most were not; most of the time, sold at art shows round the country, but at XMas, sadly, expediency called for indentured servitude in the mall, cuz that’s where the money was then). Was a WWII vet who used to come round and shoot the shit when it wasn’t busy. We became friends.

    One fine day, he allowed as how he grew to adulthood and marriage with his foreskin intact, but, after his first wife died, he got remarried to a woman who was (weird and funny and a lil sad, but true) horrified by his package. Couldn’t get over her revulsion. He loved her and wanted to please her (in every way), so, at age 50-something, he had the adult version of a bris.

    At this point, you might be thinking what I were: any difference? Which is better?

    He said, w/o doubt or reservation or qualification, the erogenous pleasure before mutilation far superceded that after.

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    oatler. says:

    @Suzanne: Fear ye the mighty wrath of the three horsemen Emerson Lake and Palmer! Plus Rush but Mom doesn’t like it if I play 2112 after midnight.

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    Mary G says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Ooooh, I’ll have to hit the Ortega highway tomorrow if I can get up early enough.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @ola azul:
    But he didn’t lose interest in having sex, did he, even if he did make the unprovable claim that he couldn’t feel it quite as much?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jay: That’s just SCIENCE!

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    Jay says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Maybe he went from being a one pump chump to a caring and sensitive lover,

    ( I kill myself sometimes)

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    Viva BrisVegas says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Actually this is $250K punitive and $350K compensatory. So he wants $600K total.

    Just imagine what Hillary is owed.

    If Nunes is successful, Hillary could literally bankrupt American Conservatism. So then it wouldn’t just be morally bankrupt.

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    @Mary G: I got there around 2pm and it was crowded, I left about 1/4 to 4 and they had closed off the exit from the 15. The view coming up north on the 15 was amazing, you just see these orange hills.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @West of the Rockies:

    Should they be considered for Native Americans as well? Anyone have any thoughts?

    Hey, that’s one reason I think that the NA owned cas1nos are a great idea.

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    ola azul says:


    @ola azul:

    Re: my comment, was blissfully unaware of the MRA douche-angle, or the faux-science angle (tho w/o the before and after of adult sexual congress, unsure how the science is knowable). Was merely relating one person’s real-world (and unique to my knowledge) experience.

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    Jay says:

    @Viva BrisVegas:

    “If Nunes is successful”,………….


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    Suzanne says:

    @ola azul: FWIW, I have a dude friend who had to be circumcised as an adult for some medical reason that I don’t know, and he said the exact opposite, and he enjoyed sex more afterward. He said it was not a big difference but noticeable. He was never a friend with benefits, so I can’t testify to it either before or after.

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    Suzanne says:

    @oatler.: I swear, I don’t know what it is about prog rock and libertarian dudes. I think it’s the desire to be into something intellectual in order to seem superior, but not actually being into intellectual things?

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    ola azul says:


    For whom?

    Ha! For her, obvs.! If your girl ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy!

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    NotMax says:


    Not a fair comparison as it involves two different partners rather than a head to head test..

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    jl says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Thanks. When did you take that beautiful pic?
    That pic may be the best we can do. I heard on the news they closed the road into the bloom because of visitor misbehavior.
    That wasn’t you, right? I trust you didn’t park your car off the road or trample the flowers.
    Same news report mentioned some super blooms on Northern California. I need to look them up to see if I can make it.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Suzanne: I believe there is a chicken and egg thing with libertarians and Rush fandom

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    Jay says:

    @ola azul:

    They load the body up with sensors and MRI the brain. They take blood samples. Biofeedback from nerve stimulus, hormone levels and pleasure centers in the brain compared to a normal baseline.

    And over years and years of research what they discovered was that 90% of sex took place in the brain.

    So, if you believe that Devin Nunes stole your foreskin, then sex will be less satisfying than when you had one.

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    West of the Rockies says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Maybe free college tuition would be a step in the right direction.

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    Jay says:

    @ola azul:

    I doubt it. A male of that generation ain’t exactly woke.

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    @jl: I took it this afternoon, they did close off the freeway exit after I got there. The thing I noted in my initial comment is that they PROVIDE AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN TAKE PICS WITH THE FLOWERS, and yet people still feel compelled to cross over the minimal barriers that they put up because either they can’t read the signs or they just think they’re fucking special and the rules don’t apply to them.

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    Wapiti says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Maybe this explains Trump’s weird twitter freak-out this weekend? Maybe the Times called to ask for a comment on the bank fraud story?

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    ola azul says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    But he didn’t lose interest in having sex, did he, even if he did make the unprovable claim that he couldn’t feel it quite as much?

    No, course he still enjoyed sex. Must say: Don’t gotta dog in the hunt (or skin in the game), was just relating a unique-to-me anecdote (till now, and Suzanne’s friend had the exact opposite response, so there ya go) about one person’s experience.

    I know literally nothing about the He-Man Woman Hater’s Club known as the MRA (bowel) movement apart that it, like horrible things like cancer and dementia and herpes, exists as a virulent pox upon all that makes life beautiful.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @West of the Rockies: Not everyone wants to go to college. FWIW the tribes in WI who operate those facilities share the profits among registered tribal members – children included. I know one family who uses their per capita payments to travel around the country and dance at various powwows. They aren’t particularly academic so they are using the money to give their children valuable experiences and educate them about their heritage.

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    Jay says:

    @ola azul:

    The purpose of knowing about the MRA’s, Incels, various flavours of Nazis, Jordan Peterson, Candace Owen, 4chan, 8chan, dogwhistles, etc is to recognize when it bleeds out of it’s cesspool and into “Normies” thoughts and speech,

    because it is, in a huge pukefunnel of infection.

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    ola azul says:


    I doubt it. A male of that generation ain’t exactly woke.

    It’s your prerogative to disbelieve. Will say: Seems kinda churlish to think a guy who got his foreskin lopped off in his fifties specifically to please his wife wouldn’t care about his wife’s pleasure.

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    If you live in or close to Southern California…run, don’t walk to the bloom at Lake Elsinore.

    I went to the one in Antelope Valley, which was not quite as impressive but apparently much less crowded.

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    Jay says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    In BC at least, a large number of University courses are tailored to Indigenous education.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: as for non-Rush prog rock fandom, it’s just sort of a weird stonerish white dude thing in my experience, so there’s natural demographic overlap with libertarians.

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    @Roger Moore: I was thinking of going there, it’s a bit closer, but I was already in Oceanside, so Lake Elsinore was really on the way home.

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    Jay says:

    @ola azul:

    It’s hard to belive that a woman who had her partner chop off his foreskin because she found it too gross, would complain about missing it afterwards.

    That’s just rubbing it in at that point.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Jay: Okay, and?

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    NotMax says:

    @Roger Moore

    “Antelope Freeway, one half mile…”

    /obligatory Firesign Theater reference

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    trollhattan says:

    Jesus, this is some hilarious own goal from whomever does Devin’s fancy thinkin’ for him. Best laugh in weeks.

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    trollhattan says:

    Made a Papoon for president ref. today so it must be a thing.

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    ola azul says:


    Ya, it would be rubbing it in if that’s what happent, but — it didn’t. Don’t understand your point. She didn’t complain about missing it.

    (Perhaps the source of confusion here is the joke I made: “For her, obvs.! ….”)

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    Jay says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    so when a Normie of your acquaintance says something tieing into the Vile Memes, you can try to educate them about the vile sewage rabbit hole they are starting into,…..

    and when a Pol/MSM tries to normalize it, you can call them out.

    A friend of mine, for 30 years, a smart, talented, stand up guy, started down that rabbit hole a decade ago. I tried, but they fed his anger and resentment. He qualifies for parole in 2032.

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    Jay says:

    @ola azul:

    So, if she made no mention of it,

    Then he was just talking about sex sefishly.

    Like I said, if you believe Devin Nunes stole your foreskin, then yeah, sex ain’t gonna be as great because it’s all in the mind.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Jay: I linked to the wrong comment. Should have been a response to your comment at 109.

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    ola azul says:


    So, if she made no mention of it,

    Then he was just talking about sex sefishly.

    Like I said, if you believe Devin Nunes stole your foreskin, then yeah, sex ain’t gonna be as great because it’s all in the mind.

    The “he was just talking about sex selfishly” bit is an unnecessary and inaccurate cheap shot at my friend.

    Gotta say: Feel as tho you are lecturing me, Jay, when all I was doing was relating what I thought was an inneresting anecdote. Perhaps it was salted with ignorance of a wider issue I was unaware of. I ain’t tryng to make a point or take a stand on the issue, but it feels like you are using an innocent comment as a cudgel for your own purposes.

    I hear what you are saying. LOUDLY. It ain’t my point. It’s yours. Glad I could be of service. You clearly needed to get it off your chest.

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    Jay says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The courses vary ftom Language, Culture, Indigenous Law, etc and are creating a core of Indigenous Government, education, activism, social rights, etc amongst the Peoples.

    In Canada, for far too long, the Feds ran everything Indigenous.

    For example, TRU runs a program where Indigenous people from across Canada, study and are taught by Indigenous instructors, Facilities, Water and Sewage Management. When they return home they are fully capable of navigating the Grants systems, setting out the RFQ’s, overseeing awarding the contracts, managing the construction, and then running the day to day operations of modern water treatment and sewage plants.

    That used to be a task of the Indian Agent and a bunch of bureaucrats in the DIA, most of whom knew almost nothing.

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    oatler. says:

    @NotMax: I thought that was a Howard Roberts record.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Jay: And yet, not everyone wants to go to college.

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    Jay says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yup. I take in 4 paid interns every year on a Grant system. They alternate between labour and classes at TRU for their pre-apprenticeships. Then they apprentice. If they make it through all 5 years, they go home as Red Seal Tradesmen, with a bit of a bank, and are fully qualified to build and maintain modern housing.

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    oatler. says:

    @NotMax: Thanks. I knew I heard this before! But it really is a Howard Roberts lp from 1971.

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    Jay says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Down in Merritt, there’s a TRU Extension course on Firemaking, ( land management) taught by the last surviving Salishan Firemaker.

    Unfortunately, a lot of this is “college”, because so much Indiginous knowledge has been lost ( locally) but is preserved in pockets far away from tiny reserves and villages.

    In Ontario, there is a project which has been very sucessful at “certifying” Indigenous teachers on the small reserves and bringing students into the reserves to learn.

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    Jay says:

    Devin Nunes Cow’s twitter headboard has changed.

    It’s now a photo of a portable signboard that reads:

    Meeting Tonight
    Don’t tell Devin”

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    sukabi says:

    @Major Major Major Major: also, they may have their accounts set to private….that was comedy gold at one of the hearings they held on social media being unfair to conservatives…one of the goobers on the committee actually was bitching about nobody being able to see his tweets …turned out his account was set to private.

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    NotMax says:


    The Firesign Theater album that appeared on was first released in 1969.

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    NotMax says:


    Updating the aphorism:

    “It’s better to be thought a fool than set it to public and remove all doubt.”


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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @But her emails!!!: Yep. It’s not really funny that a Congressman would bring such a frivolous case to court. It’s an attempt to silence criticism and he should be held accountable. This is no different then Trump’s assertions that SNL should be investigated for mocking him.

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    J. says:

    Shoot. Twitter has suspended @devinnunesmom. But the cow lives to moo another day.

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    ErikTheRed says:

    @Jay: His anus makes an appearance, too.

    Name looks kinda familiar. Hmmmm…..

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    Just Chuck says:

    Next time conservatives complain about our overly-litigious society …

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    TerryC says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Some of us who had it done to us would really like to know the answers to all sorts of questions and don’t find it at all humorous 🤔 how dissimilar is clitorectomy and how would we feel about that?

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    Spinoza Is My Co-Pilot says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I don’t get the longstanding and lingering prog rock hate, nor the association (by liberals/leftists) of prog rock with libertarians (and now incels).

    I enjoy a wide range of music, but have a special place in my heart for prog rock going back to the first Pink Floyd album I bought in ’68 (their Piper at the Gates of Dawn). I’d stack the best music of Floyd, King Crimson, and Yes against anything out there – concerts I’ve attended by those groups are among the very best/most memorable I’ve ever been to (of well over 1,000 live performances of all kinds, going back to my first couple– Led Zep and the Cleveland Orchestra, both in ’69). There’s excellent newer prog rock by the likes of Mars Volta, Tool, and Syd Arthur, too. The prog rock fans I knew in olden times – and the ones I know today – are anything but rightwingers (and not just stonerish white dudes, either; though, yeah, us stonerish white dudes are well-represented, must admit).

    I see far less criticism of the actual soundtrack to American fascism – contemporary country music (which, musically, mostly sucks ass far harder than any but the very worst prog rock, leaving aside their respective fanbases). Compare the attendees of, say, a Dream Theater concert, with those at Country Thunder (a charming little festival here in the AZ desert). One is full of drunken Real ‘Murican yahoos gleefully sporting flags of treason in defense of slavery and Trump stickers on their ubiquitous pickem-up trucks, the other will have a mixed crowd enjoying good music while generally avoiding being rude “Murica, Fuck Yeah!” assholes. Guess which one is which.

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