Saturday Afternoon Open Thread

Here’s a tricolored heron with its breakfast:

I think the luckless critter that was on the menu is a frog; my husband suspects it’s a crawdad.

Fun facts about tricolored herons: the male builds a rough frame for the nest, and the female does the trim work, adding smaller sticks, grass, etc. IIRC, the plumage is the same for both sexes. The blue skin around the bill means he or she is ready for romance!

Open thread!

197 replies
  1. 1
    brendancalling says:

    Beautiful sunny day, a little brisk in Nashville this morning. Bandmate/housemate still asleep with Strawberry his goofy dog. Drinking my last cuppa joe, getting cheap breakfast up the street, then a quick practice with a buddy who’s recording this week and then maybe seeing some metal bands tonight.

    All in all, a good day so far.

  2. 2
    Kelly says:

    Moving this up from below.

    Beto’s handle on the Cult of the Dead Cow was Psychedelic Warlord.

    I suppose this sort of thing is to be expected from now on.

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    trollhattan says:

    I think crawdad wins the loser competition (to my eye anyway). Nice that you can get relatively close, I have a hard time with wading birds, which seem very wary most of the time.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    St Patrick’s weekend, means The Boondock Saints in me household.

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    Origuy says:

    @Kelly I wonder what George HW Bush’s name was in Skull and Bones.?

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    raven says:

    Auburn Fla coming right up.

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    CaseyL says:

    It would almost be worth putting up with the heat, humidity, and Giant Flying Cockroaches, to have so many gorgeous critters living around me like you do, Betty. Maybe if I hadn’t already done my time in Florida I’d consider it.

    Not that Seattle’s urban evirons lacks for wild things. When I first moved here, seeing a raccoon was an exotic experience. Now I’m so used to them, I practically know their entire families. (And love seeing the babies make their debut appearances.) For birds we have Stellar Jays, woodpeckers, blue herons, eagles, geese and ducks by the truckload, coots (I love their weird pod-like toes) – and that’s in the city. Also used to be some peregrines nesting downtown; maybe still are.

    ETA: Just checked and, no, the peregrines have been gone for a couple of years. They say Mom might have died and Dad left to find another mate.

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    trollhattan says:

    Kid is off at a regional long distance track meet, trying to up her official 1600 meter time. Considering she barely trains (soccer gets in the way) she’s not bad at it, and for whatever reason colleges recruit track more than soccer. Perhaps because America has about ten million soccer girls at any given time.

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    Kelly says:

    This Great Blue Heron is a resident at some ponds nearby. She’s tolerant of my photography. Her mate grumpily flys away before I get close. I have yet to get a good pic of her catching anything. Never has her head at a good angle.

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    trollhattan says:

    The Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta has the birdies and ZERO gators or pythons, in case you’re interested in becoming a river rat (what they call themselves). Also zero hurricanes but floods, well, houseboats don’t care.

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    rikyrah says:

    Here is the video of Maddow explaining the spreadsheet of PREGNANT GIRLS in custody.😠😠😠

    I wanted to scream watching this.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Kelly: 25 years ago I worked in the only office building in a waterfront development far northeast of the Baltimore beltway, with a window looking out onto one of the canals that webbed the area. For a few summers a pair of blue herons frequented that canal. I used to marvel at how ungainly those birds looked perched motionless on a pier piling scanning for a fishy meal in the depths – & how effortlessly they transformed into utter gracefulness as they burst into flight. One of the good memories of an otherwise challenging time.

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    rikyrah says:

    Good 👏👏

    Jon Passantino (@passantino) Tweeted:
    Murdoch’s Sky News Australia has been taken off the air in New Zealand after it broadcast the mosque shooter’s disturbing video of the attack

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    Beautiful bird picture, Betty. Thanks very much.

    I’m felled by the flu so Harry and I are going back to bed.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @rikyrah: I literally thought I might throw up when I watched that. I have no words. Disgusting and appalling don’t even come close.

    edit: others here have speculated that they might be tracking the periods so they can get girls pregnant and sell the babies. Without knowing what happens to the babies after the girls are illegally prohibited from getting abortions after they are raped, my first thought is that the guards are looking for “safe” times to rape the girls without them getting pregnant. If I am right, they are scheduling rapes.

    edit 2: or am I conflating two different stories?

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    The blue skin around the bill means he or she is ready for romance!

    Whenever I turn blue it means romance is over.

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    Kelly says:

    @Uncle Cosmo: We also have little green herons that I see almost daily in the summer. Beautiful birds. I bought myself a Panasonic G85 and 45-150 zoom for Christmas. Planning to get some good shots this summer. We live in the Cascade foothills at the edge of the Willamette Valley along a river. Farms fields are transitioning to forest here. Diverse habitats, broad assortment of raptors bald eagles to tiny hawks.

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    sukabi says:

    @CaseyL: if you haven’t already been and would like a good urban nature walk, lots of birds and small animals check out Forbes Creek Park in Kirkland.

    Bald eagles, many kinds of ducks, herons, racoons, nutria…early morning and before sunset are best for the mammals…birds all day long.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: I thought that today was supposed to be your “start to feel better day”. :-(

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    WaterGirl says:

    @rikyrah: Please excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall.

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    Baud says:

    Another example of right-wing Clinton-hating culture masquerading as left-wing virtue.

    At a vigil for victims of the New Zealand mosque mass shootings, New York University students confronted Chelsea Clinton over tweets concerning Representative Ilhan Omar.

    “This [vigil] is the result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world,” a student told Clinton during the encounter, which was filmed and posted online.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Kelly: Nice heron!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Baud: People like her?

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    waratah says:

    @Baud: I think they feel that free speech gives them the right to be hateful.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I don’t Chelsea Clinton saying word one about the mosque shooting in New Zealand. From what was that line of attack dreamed up?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:


    I think they feel that free speech gives them the right to be hateful.

    To be fair, it really does. OTOH, they should be aware that people will judge them.

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    Brickley Paiste says:

    Sanders campaign workers unionize:

    I don’t support Danders but credit given where credit due.

    Unions are the least bad way for workers to protect their rights.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Amir Khalid: The person who yelled at Chelsea Clinton was angry about comments Clinton made in the wake of the Rep. Omar anti-Semitism controversy. I saw a clip of it on Twitter. She (the student who confronted Clinton) screamed in Clinton’s face about her rhetoric being responsible for the murders. She came across as unhinged, IMO, but the most charitable interpretation is that she’s angry and scared and lashing out. Clinton was as gracious as a human being could possibly be under those circumstances.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Just saw that Mayor Pete has received enough donations to be eligible to appear in the first debate — hooray! I still think it’s awful that money is used as a metric for candidate seriousness. I understand it; that’s the shitty world we live in. But still, it rankles.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Amir Khalid: The logic, such as it is, was that Clinton had tweeted something critical of Rep. Omar’s statements. Therefore, according to ‘logic’, any act of Islamaphobia can be blamed on a Clinton.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Betty Cracker:
    I see. Thanks.

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    Kelly says:

    @Betty Cracker: Thanks! Yours is lovely as well. The photos around here are part of what inspired me to upgrade from smartphone snaps.

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    Baud says:

    @Amir Khalid: Ironically, this was at a vigil for the NZ shooting. Talk about disrespect.

    @Betty Cracker:

    The standard is 1% in the polls OR a certain number of donators (not amounts) from a certain number of states. I don’t know how you make it more open than that.

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    Baud says:


    Therefore, according to ‘logic’, any act of Islamaphobia can be blamed attack on a Clinton will generate attention.


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    Kelly says:

    @Betty Cracker: Chelsea Clinton’s grace amazes me. I if I had grown up with my family under constant attack by nasty liars I would be a grumpy hermit.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Baud: if Jesse Waters or James O’Keefe were creating a character from rose twitter it would be those people yelling at Chelsea Clinton

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    Baud says:


    I didn’t and I am!

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I knew there was a required minimum number of donors in there somewhere.

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    AnotherBruce says:

    @CaseyL: There is a box under the West Seattle bridge. I have seen Peregrines nesting up on that box. It’s not every year, but I have seen this more than once. If you go to the lower bridge tower, Look west for a good look. I usually go there about late March and early April. But no guarantees, they are birds and they go wherever they want.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Chelsea faced political attacks for being Bill and Hillary’s kid when she was twelve. That still boggles my mind.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Here’s an amazing anecdote about Mayor Pete Buttigieg:

    Last weekend, I met South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg for the first time.

    I happened to introduce him to my Norwegian journalist friend, Asne Seierstad.

    Instantaneously, Pete starts talking to her in Norwegian, like a magic trick.

    No one is more puzzled to encounter a Norwegian speaker in Texas who is also a presidential candidate than a Norwegian. Asne gasps.

    Mayor Pete explains that he once read a Norwegian author in translation. The trouble is that was the only book by that author available in English. So he learned an entire language to read more books.

    There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. We have no idea who Donald Trump’s successor will be. But we have already found the man most opposite of him.

    [Link to Twitter]

    Buttigieg continues to impress!

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Baud: Okay, number of donors then. Still, I wish it could be decoupled from money somehow. I get why it is but it still bugs me.

  43. 43
    Baud says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    I made a mistake taking up Spanish.

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    B.B.A. says:

    Can we as a country just stop talking about the Clintons already? They’re about as relevant as the Bushes.

    EDIT: Less, because a Bush still holds elective office somewhere.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @B.B.A.: I believe that Chelsea is over 35, so she is eligible to run for president.

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    germy says:

    @Betty Cracker: She and her friend are fundraising.

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    debbie says:


    “Right-wing bandwagon?” Goodbye, credibility.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    If she ever shows the slightest interest in running for anything, I suppose she might run for that one.

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    Baud says:

    @B.B.A.: If they are unfairly attacked, I intend to speak up.

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    @WaterGirl: I got the impression they monitored the periods to make sure they’d been pregnant long enuff that they could no longer get a legal abortion.

    Also they continued this after the judge in the ACLU’s class action suit ruled that the govt/Trump administration was no longer legally able to prevent any of the girls in their custody getting an abortion

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Amir Khalid: My guess is that she would rather do DIY dental work than run for office.

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    germy says:

    Class loyalty among elites is extremely strong and vicious, especially when perceived rabble step out of line. I'm surprised no candlelight vigils or GoFundMe campaigns have been scheduled yet for Chelsea. She'll be OK.— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 16, 2019

    He lives in a gated mansion in Brazil, with servants and a half a million yearly salary.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    pretty good snark from an earnest good-government bureaucrat

    Walter Shaub @ waltshaub
    If you’re a lobbyist, I have just the place for you. DC’s hottest club is an old post office. Inspired by greed, this place has everything: A President, a Vice President and, for a price, access. It even has a fake blind trust so your friends can pretend not to see the corruption

    Citizens for Ethics @ CREWcrew
    So the Vice President got lobbied while visiting his boss’s business

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Betty Cracker: But was he speaking bokmål or nynorsk? :p

    In summer 2000, not too long after the Russian submarine Kursk had gone down in the Arctic, I came into Oslo on the overnight train from Bergen & was rather groggily searching for the Braathens airline office (to buy a ticket for Trondheim) in the bowels of the station. I passed a newsstand on the way & glanced at the headline, which told me that (contrary to rumors) there had been no American submarine in the vicinity of the Kursk when it sank. Oh, I thought as I kept walking –

    Then stopped & walked back. The paper was the Berlingske Tidende, one of the longest-running newspapers in the world. Published in Copenhagen. In Danish.**

    I spoke (still speak) roughly a dozen words of Danish, atrociously. (Mainly Jeg forstår ikke dansk, taler De engelsk? [I don’t understand Danish, do you speak English?]) But (through some combination of grogginess & two years of German in college) I understood that headline. Go figger.

    ** In retrospect, it might in fact been the Bergens Tidende, in Norwegian, of which I spoke/speak not a jot – bokmål or nynorsk.

  55. 55
    cain says:

    will their heads swivel left if they don’t like each other and swivel right if they do? Asking for a friend.

  56. 56
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    For the rugby fans around here. The England-Scotland match is a must see. I don’t want to offer up any spoilers for anyone who is recording it, so I will leave it there.

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    Baud says:

    @germy: Trolls gotta troll.

  58. 58
    cain says:


    At least we have someone who knows something about cybersecurity unlike everyone else. Having a president who was a hacker is fantastic. Because we are heading into those times.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @germy: One of these days the answer to “Where’s Greenwaldo?” may be In a Brazilian dumpster. Can’t come soon enough IMHO.

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    cain says:

    @Betty Cracker:
    I think we just found our Teddy Roosevelt. :)

  61. 61
    The Pale Scot says:

    60 seconds of people doing things at ridiculous skill levels

    I thought I swung a mean sledgehammer back in the day. 20lb @ 1 swing every 5 seconds WOW

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    West of the Rockies says:


    The NZ massacre is NOT Clinton’s fault, or Candace Owen’s. It belongs first and foremost to the shooter and to those who foment such rage and fear and resentment (which certainly does not include Chelsea Clinton).

    Carlson, Limbaugh, Malkin, Coulter, Trump, Hannity, Owens, Milo… Step up to acknowledge your overt or tacit endorsement.

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    dww44 says:

    @Kelly: What did you upgrade to? I’m in the market to replace a Canon point and shoot that wasn’t old but inexplicably died. I’m not talented, but I am both a bird watcher and bird feeder in my neighborhood.

    Unrelatedly, I’ve been over at the NYT reading the comments posted to Birch Bayh’s obituary and although I certainly am old enough to remember him well, I truly forgot how much he had actually accomplished as a Senator. I encourage all to go over and read his obit. . I also agree with commenter Joyce from San Francisco:

    Our country recently gave John McCain a wonderful memorial service. Birch Bayh is equally deserving.

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    Baud says:

    @West of the Rockies:

    But I’ve already ordered 10,000 “I blame Chelsea” t-shirts.

  65. 65
    dww44 says:

    @dww44: I don’t know why my link to the obit didn’t work:

    Birch Bay dies at 91:

  66. 66
    ljt says:

    Just got text from daughter who is in NOLA to see Hamilton(!), where she and friends just met Stacy Abrams outside of hotel! She sent pic to prove it!

  67. 67
    Kelly says:

    @dww44: Panasonic GX85 with 12-32 and 45-150 zooms. Just under $500 package deal these days. I also bought a 25mm f1.7 prime. I’d been eyeing the advanced point and shoots with a 1″ sensor and noticed I could get this micro 4/3 camera with a somewhat bigger sensor and interchangeable lenses for the same or less money. The whole set is less than the wonderful Sony RX10 IV point and shoot. With a point and shoot I couldn’t decide which fixed lense I wanted. The 4/3 sensor is half of a full frame so at 150mm the zoom has the reach of a full frame 300mm.
    Still figuring out how to use the settings quickly. Many photos where the twig in front of me is in perfect focus rather than the bird I wanted. Also I have protect it from the elements much more than my phone.

  68. 68
    Suzanne says:

    I am sitting in a hair salon with Olaplex on my head. Trying to do better at basic maintenance of the self, including getting haircuts and applying lotion regularly. When I’m stressed, that shit, along with sleep, is the first to go.

    I am here for Kamala, Beto, and Mayor Pete right now, but am also getting excited for Stacey Abrams. After Christchurch, I am even more convinced that we do not need any OWGs who want to find “common ground” with the Nazi right.

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    Ninedragonspot says:

    Listening to a fine “Falstaff” from the Met and afterwards prepping for Chinese karaoke tonight.

    Have discovered I can use the Chelsea imbroglio as an indicator which of my friends will be gibbering idiots for the next 18 months.

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    Baud says:


    Awesome for Miss ljt.

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    Chacal Charles Calthrop says:

    @Kelly: you win the internets today

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    The Pale Scot says:

    Plz delete my comment at 61, it doesn’t fit the thread.

    Just fuck trumpovich,

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    karen marie says:

    @West of the Rockies: The shooter credited Candace Owens. I will take him at his word.

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    StringOnAStick says:

    Day 5 post knee replacement. The pain is declining enough that the boredom is becoming more prominent, while every action is an effort. I may consider hobbling outside for some sunshine when my husband gets home.

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    realbtl says:

    @StringOnAStick: Boredom is a great motivator. I’m on day 18 and started driving 4 days ago. No more cabin fever.

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    JPL says:

    @dww44: He does and the survival of Title IX alone shows how much he accomplished.

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    sgrAstar says:

    @Betty Cracker: to be pedantic about it, it’s not the $ that the candidates raise, it’s the number of donors that gets them on the debate stage. Andrew Yang has also qualified. It’s gonna be epic!

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    J R in WV says:

    @Brickley Paiste:

    I regret that I have but one pie to give for my country.

    Also remarks about how swell it was for Sen. Sanders to unionize his campaign staff. Brick, you don’t understand how unionization works. Senator Sanders had to agree to the union, or lose his whole staff and end his campaign and grift way too early. Employers, like Sanders, don’t organize — their employees do, because they feel oppressed and taken advantage of.

    This is a sign that even his closest staff doesn’t trust Senator Sanders as far as they can indivdually throw him!

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    StringOnAStick says:

    @realbtl: Being able to drive again is going to be huge!

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    Barbara says:

    @Baud: As if the killer and fellow travelers don’t hate Jews as much as they do Muslims. Even though, truth be told, I think the piling on of Omar was unjustified, and Chelsea Clinton, who is not a public figure, might have waited to get a better grasp of what was actually going on before chiming in with reflexive criticism. At any rate, once again, it turns out that Twitter isn’t really anyone’s friend.

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    J R in WV says:


    I got a Panasonic Lumix FZ200 super zoom point and shoot, because that bag full of Nikon hardware was an ordeal to lug around. Then I upgraded to their FZ1000, with a larger sensor, RAW image capability and a longer lens.

    I gave the older Lumix to a neighbor who rebuilds antique musical instruments, who uses it to photograph tiny details of his workmanship to post on Facebook. He was amazed by how easy it was to use in macro mode.

    Betty C has a Nikon Coolpix 900, which she is learning to use quite well, thank you V much. It’s very similar to the Lumix models, but Nikon didn’t have one like that when I went for the first Lumix FZ200, or I would have gotten one. I had a Nikon Coolpix back when they first came out, then graduated to a DSLR by Nikon, then went for the super zooms.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Barbara: I didn’t even know Chelsea Clinton had commented on Omar, and I regularly check out political twitter. I made the mistake of clicking on her name in the twitter trend thing. Apparently she’s not only a raging Islamaphobe she’s one of the most powerful people in the world!

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    Brachiator says:


    I’m surprised no candlelight vigils or GoFundMe campaigns have been scheduled yet for Chelsea. She’ll be OK.— Glenn Greenwald

    Ah, thanks for reminding me why I detest Greenwald.

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    eemom says:

    I don’t know who Candace Owen is. I also don’t know who any of the actors starring in the college bribery scandal are. I wonder if these ignorances are related.

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    One of these days the answer to “Where’s Greenwaldo?” may be In a Brazilian dumpster. Can’t come soon enough IMHO.

    LOVE this. That creature has to be in the top five of most hypocritical hypocrites ever to walk the earth. Together with being obnoxious, smug, condescending, and utterly devoid of humor. He must be a blast at parties.

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    eemom says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Apparently she’s not only a raging Islamaphobe she’s one of the most powerful people in the world!

    I didn’t know Chelsea was Jewish! 🤣

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @germy: I like how Glenn Greenwald’s working definition of “elite” draws a circle just exactly so that a highly-educated creative-class expatriate with freely-flowing venture-capital funding is on the “Not It!” side. Convenient, innit?

    I really, truly, deeply hate that guy.

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    Baud says:

    @FlipYrWhig: No different than how Donald Trump became a champion of the working class.

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    rikyrah says:

    Why either/or.
    Why not both/and?

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    Kelly says:

    @J R in WV: FZ1000 was at the top of my list. I sorta planned to get an FZ1000 and another advanced 1″ point and shoot with a shorter, brighter lense. The GX85 set was a less expensive solution. The 25mm prime is great for indoor available light at the grandkids b-day parties and Christmas. The 12-32 is a good range for hiking and XC skiing trips and comfortable to have hanging around my neck. The 45-150 has pretty good reach for birds and such. Already starting to lust after the 100mm-300mm which would cost as much as my current outfit. I rarely take the whole bundle out but it’s acceptably compact when I do.
    Still shoot a lot of pics with my phone. Quality is OK for anything close, it’s durable and it’s always within reach.

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    sukabi says:

    @J R in WV: was most probably a way for female staffers to feel like their pay equity and sexual harrassment issues were actually addressed by the “too busy campaigning to address” senator.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Her husband is, so she’s a member of the secret Jewish cabal that rules the world. I think that’s supposed to be the argument.

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    rikyrah says:

    Thank you.
    Thank you👏👏👏

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    rikyrah says:

    Keep on pushing. Do the therapy.👏👏🙌

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Amir Khalid: I think the “argument,” such as it is, is that to the young “left” The Clintons are neoliberal neoconservative warmongering corporatists, ergo the symptom if not the source of all bad things in American life. Or at least that’s how the family figures in the legends of their people.

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    Barbara says:

    @eemom: Her husband is Jewish. I don’t know whether she converted when they married. Also, I don’t know the college admission cheaters by name, except Mossimo (have a few tshirts from Target), but I can guess the net worth of the managing partner of Wilkie Farr.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @FlipYrWhig: this is from the heroic screamer’s twitter feed

    sippin on dat @ vivafalastin
    Mar 14
    kamala is the new hillary and beto is the new obama, and much like their predecessors, they both suck

    another pretty face who will do nothing for us! doesn’t even explicitly support medicare for all! next!,

    doesn’t even explicitly!

    and the tee-shirt she’s wearing in the video is from Wilmer’s campaign store

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    smintheus says:

    Good news, nobody dead at the 9 alarm fire at a casket company in Boston. I would make a joke about this but it would DOA in any case.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I know know whether to blame Bernie Sanders or Twitter. Both appear to make people incredibly stupid.

    ETA: Although maybe it’s more like that old joke about cocaine, that it makes you more of the person you already were.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @FlipYrWhig: heh, I like the idea of twitter as political cocaine

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    David Evans says:

    @J R in WV: I have a Lumix FZ330 and, like your friend, am learning to use a Coolpix P900. They are both good in different ways. Obviously if you need the reach of the P900’s lens there’s nothing better, but the FZ330 has a clearer viewfinder and a faster lens and is easier to handle.

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    Kelly says:

    Heading out into the sunshine to clean up the limbs our last winter storm broke.

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    @J R in WV: I wouldn’t recommend a camera without RAW capability. If you want to do processing or even want it as an option in the future, RAW is a necessity. Most folk do not need a full frame DSLR, they’re big and heavy(as are the lens); a micro 4/3’s or a APS-C camera will do fine. I shoot with APS-C cameras and the one thing I really love about mine is the ISO invariance(you get the same result bumping the ISO in camera as you do bumping up the exposure in post). The only reason that I’d even think of getting a full frame camera(well there’s the whole cost thing…) is for my Astro work, the larger sensor makes a big difference there.

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    @eemom: I’m with you on not knowing these people. Maybe now knowing them should be a source of pride?

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    Baud says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: When Candace Owens was mentioned by the NZ shooter, I spent too much time wondering why the Murphy Brown reboot affected this guy so much.

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    Beautiful Sufi devotional composed by A. R. Rahman and sung by Kailash Kher and Javed Ali, written by Prasoon Joshi from Delhi 6. Filmed during the Friday prayer at the historic Jama Masjid built by Shah Jahan who also built the Taj.

    Arziyaan (requests)

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    West of the Rockies says:


    Take ’em to next year’s CPAC. Those babies will sell like hot cakes!

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    Raven says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: It’s pretty common around here for people to go on and on about people I’ve never heard of. Wilmer comes to mind, as many times as people tell me who and why, I still no capisce.

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    eemom says:


    The fire chief said the company suffered millions and millions in damages. I hope they don’t get stiffed by their insurers.

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    LuciaMia says:

    ummm, crawdads….

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    trollhattan says:

    Here’s a vulture.

    It’s a little easier when the birdie is large and close. ;-)

    Olympus E-M1ii+300/4.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Baud: I spent too much time wondering why the Murphy Brown reboot affected this guy so much.

    Wow. I hadn’t heard that.

    I saw a rerun of the original on one of the nostalgia channels a while back. It did not hold up well. IMHO.

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    LuciaMia says:

    The only Guiness brewery in the US is about a half hour from me, here in Maryland. St. Patricks Day weekend, thought it might be fun to visit it. Then, nah, probably not a good idea.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I would love to ask them who’s more responsible for the Iraq War, Chelsea Clinton or John Bolton?

    But I’m pretty sure they have no clue who Bolton is.

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    Baud says:

    @West of the Rockies: But then I’d have to be at CPAC.

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    West of the Rockies says:

    OT, but does anyone else find Bill Maher to be a smarmy, pretentious scold?

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    Baud says:

    @West of the Rockies: Yes, but he’s that way on our side enough to get away with it. Like Jon Stewart on steroids.

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    @West of the Rockies: Yes. Also Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins and many other professional atheists. And I say this as a pretty agnostic, non-observant non religious person myself.

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    Okay so Twitler is slamming John McCain, the dead John McCain that is on twitter. The man literally has no shame. None.

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    JPL says:

    Delaware’s First State Democratic Dinner is tonight and Biden is the featured guest. Rumors are that he might announce, but I just don’t think it’s a good look. Geez the dinner is from 5:00 to 7;30 and the jokes just write themselves.

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    @Litlebritdifrnt: As my grandmother would say he has no sanskar, roughly translated upbringing or culture.

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    JPL says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: wtf is he watching now?
    Google is helping China military but not the US.. What does that even mean?

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    JPL says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Now he’s moved on to the yellow vests in France He’s mocking Macron’s environmental policies I guess. Either he’s having a breakdown, or something big is coming down from Mueller.

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    West of the Rockies says:


    Militant atheists (if that’s a thing) are a bit like militant vegans.

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    Either he’s having a breakdown, or something big is coming down from Mueller.

    “Why can’t we have both.”

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    @West of the Rockies: The ones I mentioned are all virulently anti-Islam too, some might say that their critiques border on being offensively racist.

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    Reports of active shooter at Mason Hall in Ann Arbor. I had all my grad classes in that bldg. It’s right on the Diag.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @JPL: Please be Fredo please be Fredo please be Fredo

    indicted, that is

    @West of the Rockies: if the word “smarmy” didn’t exist, it would have to be invented for Maher

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    eemom says:

    @West of the Rockies:

    God yes.


    Don’t think that’s fair to Stewart. I get that he was guilty of both sides-ism in later years, but he NEVER had the utterly obnoxious, please let me punch that smug-ass face in, persona that Maher does.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I really hope this is true,

    Steve Garagiola @ SteveGaragiola
    From Washtenaw County Sheriff: A group of 14 girls were popping balloons while screaming at or near Mason Hall. A group of students heard this and started running. This triggered the alert on campus. Police have given the all-clear.

    According to his profile, he’s a local news anchor

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I know it’s like engaging in a discussion with a lying, delusional dining room table, but… what fucking lists does he think he’s talking about?

    Donald J. Trump @ realDonaldTrump
    How is the Paris Environmental Accord working out for France? After 18 weeks of rioting by the Yellow Vest Protesters, I guess not so well! In the meantime, the United States has gone to the top of all lists on the Environment.

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    satby says:

    My heart is breaking for fellow jackal Cliosfanboy. His original comment went into moderation, and by the time it came out, a lot of people missed it, but he could probably use some emotional support, as they had to say goodbye to a furkid for the second time in about 10 months.

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    M31 says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    the made-up lists of made-up shit in Donald Trump’s useless putrifying brain

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    Brachiator says:

    @West of the Rockies:

    OT, but does anyone else find Bill Maher to be a smarmy, pretentious scold?

    Smarmy, sometimes. Pretentious, not really.

    Maher and U2s Bono look like Hugh Hefner’s illegitimate sons.

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    JPL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I don’t know, because I’m still trying to decode the google tweet. How and why is google helping China and their military and not us. I know that they are following China’s laws to restrict information, but that’s a bad thing.

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    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It looks like that’s the case.

    I wonder if Steve Garagiola is related to Joe Garagiola. I wouldn’t think that’s a common name.

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    M31 says:

    oops sorry about that — assumes brain not in evidence
    The management would like to apologize for the error.

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The lists in his head, because in reality the US comes dead last in all lists on the Environment from air to water quality you name it.

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    @eemom: I have to agree with you about Jon Stewart. He is not as obnoxious Bill Maher.

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    West of the Rockies says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Okay, here’s a gross analogy (you’ve been warned)…

    Trump lies the way a toddler uses his nose as a snack dispenser. Can’t stop himself, will do while staring you in the eyes, will be put out if you call him on it, and just keeps on munching away.

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    JPL says:

    @satby: That sucks. Thank you for linking to it, and all I can offer are internet hugs.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @West of the Rockies: If you spell “scold” with p-r-i-c-k, then yes, my answer is yes.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Does he truly not know that the Paris Accord is called that because it was signed in Paris, not because France is the sole beneficiary? Does he truly not know that the Yellow Vest Movement is primarily about economic inequality and is not focused on environment?

    And yeah, what lists?

    Jesus. I simply cannot with his ignorance, stupidity, and schoolyard taunting.

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    sukabi says:

    @West of the Rockies: short and long answers. Yes.

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    rikyrah says:

    If John Cole lived in the city, I am sure that this would happen to him.
    This thread😂😂😂

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    His son:

    Garagiola married Audrie Ross, the organist at the Cardinals’ ballpark in St. Louis, in 1949;[1] their two sons later had an association with baseball. Joe Jr., was the general manager for the Arizona Diamondbacks, and later senior vice president of baseball operations for Major League Baseball. His other son Steve is a broadcast journalist as well, serving as a reporter and anchor for WDIV-TV, the NBC affiliate in Detroit.[12] His daughter, Gina, has also worked in TV news, as a field reporter for Arizona station KTVK, and is now a freelance writer. Garagiola Sr. had eight grandchildren.

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    smintheus says:

    @West of the Rockies: Except that there is a right and wrong answer to the question “Do any mortals actually know anything about the divine?”

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Such sadness. A lot of that around here recently.

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    satby says:

    @JPL: I just felt so bad that after posting that it took quite a while (and a second post) before anyone knew and could respond. And by then they had left for the vet to say goodbye. But, no thread is ever dead here, so we can go back to this morning’s one.

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    BeautifulPlumage says:

    Coworker’s dog was at the office yesterday but was experiencing stool issues. I found some samples in the prez’s office and sent him a photo. Then I noticed blood in a section so texted a close up photo. He just texted a pic of solid, healthy dog poop and I’ve never felt like more of a balloon juicer than today.

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    Ruckus says:

    He’s not too bright. I wonder if he knows the man is dead?

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    trollhattan says:

    You are NOT kidding that is 100% Cole. :-)

    Also a reminder why I will never, ever again live in an apartment if I can help it.

    That shepherd has the biggest doggie bat-ears I’ve ever seen.

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    satby says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: but we support each other, and that helps.

    @BeautifulPlumage: too true. An incredibly full service blog.

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    Barbara says:

    @satby: Shucks. I am so sorry. It is so hard to lose a friend.

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    khead says:


    Thanks. Really enjoyed that.

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    Barbara says:

    @BeautifulPlumage: My vet told me once that dogs have a much shorter digestive cycle and so often have transient problems that clear up on their own when the rough stuff they are wont to eat clears the gut.

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    satby says:

    I suspect the Wilmerbro I stopped interacting with at Zucker’s place signed me up to get campaign emails. Easy enough, I unsubcribed.
    And then they asked why. Hilarity (for me) ensued. With a side of venom.

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    smintheus says:

    @eemom: You’d think the manufacturers would anticipate a certain amount of rigor might come into play.

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    Ruckus says:

    You are asking legitimate questions about a not quite elderly man with dementia. Which means that no, he doesn’t know any of the answers you seek. And besides that he was a stupid prick long before the dementia who would have said the same things because the world in his head and the one the rest of us live in are two entirely different places.

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    khead says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    In the meantime, the United States has gone to the top of all lists on the Environment.

    This sounds like a tagline in a wireless commercial.

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    The Lodger says:

    @smintheus: This conversation is appalling. Unbearable, even.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I wondered if this Weigel tweet meant Kauffman was one of the purity left’s boogeymen, but it looks more like he’s a purity argument for the Senator from MBNA, as was.

    Dave Weigel @ daveweigel
    Spotted at Delaware Democratic dinner: Ted Kaufman! cc @ddayen @ryangrim

    David Dayen @ ddayen
    The sneaky consequence of a Biden presidency is Kaufman as AG/Treasury/SEC chair

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @BeautifulPlumage: Am I the only person who finds the usage “texting a photo” jarring?

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    debbie says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Why do you hate dining room tables so much?

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    WaterGirl says:

    @trollhattan: That is 100% Cole. So is this:

    Someone on twitter posed the question: “If Donald Trump and Howard Schultz were both hanging from a cliff, who would you vote for in 2020?”

    Cole replied: gravity

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    BeautifulPlumage says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I find almost everything I do with this hand-held computer to be jarring! I remember Fotomats and having to wait a week to get prints back.

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    Cole replied: gravity

    It’s not just a good idea, it’s the Law.

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    BeautifulPlumage says:

    @rikyrah: Thanks for sharing, hilarious! The prez’s main dog (versus the 2 smaller, backup dogs) opens doors, too. Hard to keep her in one place when she gets to come to work. : )

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    chris says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Trump's thoughts on the Yellow Vests aside, the US has not moved to the top of all environmental "lists." (Trump has never cited a specific list.) It is 27th in the 2018 Environmental Performance Index, down from 26th in 2016 and "near the back of the industrialized nations."— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) 16 March 2019

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    RAVEN says:

    @Gin & Tonic: The princess told be to get a bag of the mushroom mulch like the one next to the tree. When I looked at it it wasn’t mushroom mulch it was compost. She was upstairs sewing so I texted her a picture of it. We do it all the time. I also take pictures of stuff before I take it apart, it’s a lot easier to put it back correctly when you have a picture.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Okay so Twitler is slamming John McCain, the dead John McCain that is on twitter. The man literally has no shame. None.

    He holds on to old grudges like they’re superglued to his tiny hands.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    That is hilarious, and totally Cole! I love the way the cat just waltzed in, chill as can be.

    Like. A. Boss.

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    eemom says:


    That’s true. There’s always gonna be deep digging when there’s money to be urned.

    @The Lodger:

    You are quite right. We should not be joking over a situation this grave.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @RAVEN: I know people do it. I do it. But it’s a photo, it’s not a text message. A text message is text.

    Yes, dammit, this *is* a hill to die on.

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    mrmoshpotato says:


    He holds on to old grudges like they’re superglued to his tiny hands.

    So now we’re to Racist Soviet Shitpile Grandpa argues with the dead on the Internet?

    Wonderful! 🙄

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @eemom: Not going to join in the puns, but years and years ago when I lived in Cambridge a plastics factory or warehouse caught fire and burned out of control for quite some time, filling the neighborhood with the acrid fumes of burning plastic. At that time the fire department I don’t think was that well equipped, so they just shot water at it. This was in February. The sidewalks ended up coated with an exciting mix of ice and melted plastic. I have no idea how they cleaned that up when things finally thawed.

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    J R in WV says:


    You do far more post-processing than I do, more ambitious. I adjust contrast and brightness, sometimes attempt to lessen haze or adjust color imbalance, but you are deep into dealing with the intricacies of Photoshop. I don’t use Adobe tools, as they don’t run on my OS.

    I just did load a tool to deal with RAW images, and have my camera set to save both JPG and RAW versions, as well as bracket exposures, so I wind up with a ton of data from any random shoot. I wish I had better processing skills even with the tools I use, GIMP mostly, which is capable, but I’m just not that familiar with the depths of it.

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    chris says:

    @Gin & Tonic: You’ll have to wait, the casket factory burned down.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Sorry, but you text a photo through your texting app. If you send the photo by email, you email the photo. If you put the photo in an envelope and put a stamp on it, you mail the photo.

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    Jay says:

    @West of the Rockies:

    Candince Owens, Jordan Peterson and many many others act as a gateway drug for “conservatives” to spiral down into being Nazi mass shooters.

    And the Social Media Companies enable them, while deplatforming those who call the Media Companies out on their inaction.

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    Ruckus says:

    He knows this. He’s just being extremely pedantic.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Dave Weigel @ daveweigel
    Biden almost slips up! He says he gets “criticized by the new left,” then says “I have the most progressive record of anybody running…” He stops himself and kind of hem-haws as the crowd gets up and cheers.

    so weird to be a 51 YO pragmatic, phlegmatic, old political fart, Wilmer-hater and AOC skeptic and be referred to as part of the “new left”.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Betty Cracker: Progressive Twitter is currently murdering itself over the Chelsea Clinton thing and it’s so convoluted and arcane that I can’t even follow which side any given person is on half of the time. It’s a fine controversy to stay well away from, I think.

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    eemom says:


    Sorry, but you text a photo through your texting app. If you send the photo by email, you email the photo. If you put the photo in an envelope and put a stamp on it, you mail the photo.

    Yeah. Fer fuxsake, I’m a thousand year old woman whose kids make endless fun of my technological cluelessness, and even *I* know that.

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    neldob says:

    Down here in So Cal we are having what they call a super bloom, lotsa rain after 5 or 6 year drought. Not only are the flowers flabbergastingly many and lovely, I saw a roadrunner and 2! California Bluebirds, along with an efflorescence of butterflies (Painted Ladies). Course this is just the intro to several months of flies galore, but I am enjoying it.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Ruckus: Pedantic, perhaps, but “extremely”? No. An app such as, for instance iMessage, is a messaging app, not a texting app. There are actual technical differences between SMS and MMS, and it just grates on my ears when people use “texting” as a verb to describe sending a message that is not text.

    I recognize I am in the minority here.

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    dww44 says:

    @neldob: Sounds lovely. Both the flowers and the birds and butterflies. Would love to see pics!

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    tybee says:

    @WaterGirl: one “sends” a photo, regardless of the technology involved.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Gin & Tonic: So you think that “I messaged a photo” is better?

    My pet peeve from very long ago was when people would use “modem” as a verb. I heard someone on a TV show say “I modemed (something to someone).

    Maybe it was that god-awful CSI: Cyber. Possibly the worst show ever on TV.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @WaterGirl: What’s wrong with “sent”?

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    Ruckus says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Extremely pedantic. Yeah I thought the extremely was unnecessary but you might appreciate the irony, given the circumstances. Maybe not.

    On the other hand, why do you care? We use words wrong every day. Especially words concerning tech. SSD for example. there’s no disc but that’s what it’s called.

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    David Evans says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I would be surprised if the US were dead last on everything. The former Soviet Union has a terrible record. Look at the Aral Sea (what’s left of it) for one example. Their disasters often go unnoticed in the Western media.

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    brantl says:

    That’s a crayfish, one of the claws is sticking out of the front of the bird’s beak. Zoom in, you can see it.

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