Horrowshow Open Thread: When All Else Fails, Yell “Look! JEWS!”
I’ll point out again that Republicans and others have been screaming that Ilhan Omar is an anti-Semite for comments far less explicit than this. Trump is assuming American Jews would (and should) vote solely based on Israel. https://t.co/fGaQQNlo0o
— Andrew Lebovich (@tweetsintheME) March 15, 2019
Count on Donald Trump to say the quiet parts out loud, and at the worst possible time. A white supremacist murders Muslims? Hey, look over there! —
… Speaking to a group of R.N.C. donors at Mar-a-Lago [last] Friday, Trump told the crowd assembled, “The Democrats hate Jewish people,” according to three people who were there. He went on to say he didn’t understand how anyone who’s Jewish could vote for a Democrat these days—perhaps still seething that Clinton got 71 percent of the Jewish vote in 2016, to his 24 percent—and proceeded to brag about how much he’s done for Israel, including his highly controversial decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.
And, of course, it wouldn’t be a Trump speech without a completely deranged assessment of his chances of winning an election in another country: according to the president, if he could run for prime minister of Israel, “he’d be at 98 percent in the polls.”…
Hey, it’s what he’s thinking about, ergo it must be what’s important to everybody. Well, the *right* everybodies, ifyouknowwhatImean…
A lasting political fight in which Jews figure mostly as a passive, monolithic, two-dimensional, heavily stereotyped object doesn’t make me at all nervous because history has shown that this always ends well.
— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) March 12, 2019
Exit polls put the split at 69-30 in 2012, 71-24 in 2016, and 79-17 in 2018. https://t.co/Ms1Teb0c83
— Yoni Appelbaum (@YAppelbaum) March 12, 2019
And for 25 years, "this is the inflection point and now Jews are going to become Republicans" has been remarkably stable as a dumb take. https://t.co/R27Dx0W5u1
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 12, 2019
Can't these schmucks get their stories straight?
Yesterday, the Democratic Party hates Jews.
Today, the Democratic Party is basically a cabal funded by Jews.
As a Jew, this is all very confusing, except it's not. https://t.co/5p3EZDIoLv
— Ben. No More, No Less. (@BJS_quire) March 12, 2019
If they’re going to call Jews leaving the Democratic Party “Jexodus” I’m calling the Christian rapture “the Chrapture.”
— The Volatile Mermaid (@OhNoSheTwitnt) March 12, 2019
Think we can make ‘Mike Pence, Chrapture Enthusiast’ happen?
I think The Volatile Mermaid should have left off the h in Chrapture and just gone with Crapture
Chrapture. I like that, especially the pronunciation.
I’ve never understood these appeals to members of different ethnic or religious groups that overwhelmingly vote Democratic to try out Republicanism. It seems to assume that they’re too stupid on their own to realize what’s best for them and need to be instructed. That doesn’t seem like the best means of persuasion.
I am glad that the Rapturists are getting the attention they deserve. That’s been an open secret for ages.
Like an idiot, I’m checking out 8chan and it’s all, “Why did he attack a mosque when the Jews are the real enemy!??!” If for no other reason, there are practical ones for the Jews and Muslims to ally; anyone who hates them hates us too.
How could a potential donor listen to someone so clearly insane and think, “Yeah, that’s where I want to spend my dollars.”?
@Jersey Tomato: this one is especially bad though because they are egging Israel into fighting a war because one interpretation says that the Rapture will come after Damascus is leveled. The fact that they want Israel to win the war isn’t the most soothing when people who actually care about the country would prefer it’s not at war at all.
God I’m just tired right now…
If Jews didn’t exist they’d have been invented regardless.
@NotMax: Whenever I think about Christian anti-Semites, the line “We hate the followers of our Savior’s religion!” pops into my head.
@NotMax:
Family lore says my paternal great-grandfather was a German Jew. I won’t know until I get around to sending a spit sample to 23+me or ancestry.com or whatever that Christmas gift was. But years ago I mentioned to someone that I might be 1/8 Jewish. He looked thoughtful, and said: “Too Jewish for Hitler; not Jewish enough for an Israeli passport.” I don’t even know if those calculations are right, but I find it fascinating to play with.
@SiubhanDuinne
So, an octomacaroon?
/couldn’t resist
@SiubhanDuinne: Save your money. The tests are garbage and the fine print indicates they own your and all your relatives’ genome.
@NotMax:
@Adam L. Silverman
Afraid you’ll have to explain it. One of the unbreakable, hard and fast rules of this old stick-in-the-mud is to never, but never, click on a Twitter link.
@Adam L Silverman:
Costs me nothing. The kit was a gift. But the privacy issue does give me pause.
@NotMax:
No joke! Years ago I used to regularly refer to myself as an Octoroon until I twigged to how offensive that might be; haven’t done so since that woke moment.
@NotMax:
https://giphy.com/gifs/ac7MA7r5IMYda
@Amir Khalid:
Silent H?
@SiubhanDuinne: You’ve got email.
@Adam L. Silverman
Quoth Bartleby: I prefer not to.
:)
@Adam L Silverman:
Thanks, Adam. Noted and saved to read before I spit’n’send. And I may decide not to. Will read tomorrow.
Maddow tonight 😠😠😠
Maddow Blog (@MaddowBlog) Tweeted:
This 28-page document is full of teenagers and not-yet-teenagers, who report being raped, and pregnant as a result, and here’s Trump appointee Scott Lloyd, tracking information about these girls and using it to block them from being able to get the abortion they have asked for. https://t.co/AbNRcpbhXo https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/status/1106736111941009408?s=17
Two days after the election our middle school bus had a swastika drawn on it. The high school bathroom in our district and the neighboring district had swastikas and anti-Semitic nonsense all over the walls. I remember talking with my Jewish friends and saying that I did not think the hatred would start immediately with the Jews, I thought they’d start with the blacks and Muslims first. My friend said, “it always begins with the Jews”.
Turns out they did start with the Muslims. But I think the Jewish community (in the US) pretty much has their number. Republicans are just too dumb to realize it. Don’t know what’s up with Israel though.
I don’t think white people realize how frightening the day after the election was for non whites. My husband did not want to send the kids to school. I had to called the school a few days later because my son got into an altercation with a white kid who said the US was going to kill all the Middle Easterners. The local Indian restaurant owner was told he’d be shipped back to India. These are just a few examples that I have personally experienced. I’m sure others have had similar experiences.
Do republicans really think that all these people who have seen such hate will ever vote for them? It runs so deep in our family that I jokingly tell my kids they’ll get disowned if they marry republicans.
To be fair, I think the younger generation of white kids is nothing like their parents or grandparents and seem pretty much turned off by the republicans.
@Amir Khalid: Just FTR I’ve been calling for the Crapture for some years now: when The Faithful(C) are lifted bodily into the air – & deposited in the nearest septic tank.
@rk:
I know a family of Palestinian immigrants who proudly told me right before the election they were voting for Trump.
The mind boggles.
@rikyrah: saw that this evening, besides being creepy as hell. It seems like they are actively violating HIPPA laws and interfering with the girls medical decisions / healthcare.
It seems like the only reason to be tracking those girls pregnancies — after they’ve been ordered by the courts to stop — is if they’re planning to take the babies and “adopt” them out.
Hate these despicable fuckers.
@zzyzx: @zzyzx: JimBakker and guests recently informed us that ‘wars and rumors of wars’ are a sign of the ‘end times.’ And the end times means the Rapture is nigh.
So the ‘true believer’ should presumably think so we need some wars right now, and ‘let’s make sure Damascus is destroyed.’
@rikyrah: Saw that. As she said ‘super creepy’ that he’s keeping meticulous records of young girls’ menstrual cycles!!
I like your style.
@Ladyraxterinok:
Fred Clarke at Slacktivist talked about this frequently. Evengelical christians are literally taught to fear, distrust, and even hate people who actively work towards world peace because it’s assumed they’re actually agents of the Anti-Christ if only unwittingly
Speaking as a Unitarian and ex-Republican here:
What the Republicans’ obsession with getting Jewish voters represents is a combination of Projection and Obsession.
They honestly cannot comprehend why any ethnic group – not just Jews but also Blacks and Latinos – would happily vote Democratic, which the GOP views with such negative connotations and which the GOP thinks is a rejection of “perfect” Republican Values (Projection: “Why can’t Blacks see we’re best for them as the Party of Lincoln!” “Why can’t Jews vote for us to defend Israel!” “Why can’t Latinos join us more often protesting against abortion the way their Catholic overlords want them to!”).
They think being Republican means being pro-business, pro-military, pro-Israel (as a keystone in their Middle East policies alongside being pro-Saudi) and pro-family, which they feel should attract such values voters – which they think attract religiously devout – automatically (this is their Obsession: to get all of these voters to bring back the “Big Tent” they had under Reagan).
Thing is, people have a pretty good idea when they’re getting shit on. Jewish cultural and political values – especially on abortion and reproductive choice – are not automatically conservative, and as such they won’t vote absolutely as a block either. When it comes to Israel, there is honest division between Jewish voters about One-State/Two-State solutions with the Palestinians, with enough Jewish-Americans who support Israel but are horrified by the violent suppression that the current government inflicts on Gaza and West Bank residents. Also, a lot of them resent the “Judeo-Christian brotherhood” that a lot of evangelical Christians push as a false unity, because those Christians only want to promote Israel as a means of spawning their planned Rapture/End of the World, a view most Jews don’t accept. A lot of Jews are well aware the Far Right wingnuts backing the modern GOP – especially trump’s fanboys – are antisemitic fuckers, with well-documented upticks since 2017 in Nazi vandalism around Jewish temples, cemeteries, and gathering places (not to mention mass shootings like in Pittsburgh last year). They also don’t want to take sides between Christians and Muslims, knowing that on some issues – the need for religious tolerance above all – they and Muslims are in the same boat.