Thursday Morning Open Thread

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The Repubs may be starting to regret their latest corrupt bargain. Greg Sargent, at the Washington Post, “After Republicans prostrate themselves before Trump, he humiliates them further”:

Senate Republicans have been searching for a way out of a very difficult jam. They will be forced to vote Thursday on President Trump’s declaration of a national emergency. Yet, with four of them apparently ready to vote to terminate the emergency, this will mean Trump would have to veto the measure, enraging both the president and his voters.

So Republicans hit on a preposterously absurd scheme, in which they would vote on a measure that would place limits on future national emergencies — by requiring regular congressional votes to keep them going — without placing any limits on this particular one. This was supposed to give cover to Republicans, enabling them to stand with Trump’s national emergency while creating the impression that they are generally concerned by the issues raised by the president’s abuse of power.

But it now turns out that Trump is killing this effort, too…

Senate Republicans will now be forced to vote Thursday on the resolution terminating Trump’s national emergency because the House passed one recently, and under the law, the Senate is required to act on it. And Republicans will not be able to vote to limit national emergencies later, to give themselves political protection from Thursday’s vote.

To be clear on what just happened here, Republicans tried to come up with a way to give Trump the national emergency he wants, while also giving themselves a way to mitigate the political damage from it…

If any of the entrapped GOP members know anything about history, they might be meditating upon the idea that Caligula didn’t appoint his horse to the Roman senate because he had such respect for horses.

164 replies
  1. 1
    Jay says:

    In this case, who’s Caligula’s Horse?


    So many cantidates to choose from.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Blech. Somebody wake me when this week is over.

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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    Plato says:

    Gotta admire how the devious minds of evil rethugs act to subvert governance and yet constantly trying to hold on to the powers of government.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Jay: Hey now! It’s a bit early in this eon to start hating horses like that.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    At the tail end of Jared Kushner challenged on conflicts of interest by Trump aides, book claims , an otherwise monotonous repeat of trump admin infighting, I found this fever dream of delusion:

    For her part, Ivanka Trump is focused on cementing a Trump dynasty to rival the Kennedys and Bushes by becoming commander-in-chief herself one day, according to Ward. “She thinks she’s going to be president of the United States,” Cohn is quoted as saying.

    Somebodiy’s Dunning has been thoroughly Krugerized.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @mrmoshpotato: Horses have more self respect than a Republican.

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    Jay says:


    It’s late at night here. Of course Hair Furour wouldn’t have an actual horse in the Senate. Horses are better than that.

    Just wondering which ReThug Senator is Insane Clown POSus’s horses ass,

    Aside from all of them.

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    The evil idiocy of these people never ceases to amaze.

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    Jay says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    They are creating nightmares and terror, and they are incompetent,

    What would it be like if they were competent.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Of course of course.

    That’s why horses are horses, and not Republicans.

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    Bruce K says:

    Well, with apologies to Lois McMaster Bujold, the GOP has put so many horses’ asses into Congress, they can’t do much worse with a whole horse.

    And my sympathy for the plight of GOP Congresspersons is nonexistent now. Hey, they let the scorpion climb on their backs to cross the river. They don’t get to be surprised when it stings them mid-stream.

    I apologize to any scorpions I may have maligned with the comparison to Trump.

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    Mary G says:

    @Jay: I worry that more competent evil people are watching and taking notes.

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    Jay says:

    @Mary G:

    The growth of “the bubble” suggests that there arn’t more competent evil people in the ReThug wading pool, ( which really needs some chlorine).

    Eg, Jacob Whol. He incompetently faked death threats and reported them to the Cops. He’s now under investigation on more than a few felony charges.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Pretty cool stuff.

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    mrmoshpotato says:


    Just wondering which ReThug Senator is Insane Clown POSus’s horses ass,

    Aside from all of them.

    That’s the correct answer. The horse suit is a little bottom-heavy. It’ll happen when all Republicans crowd into the horse’s ass half.

    “Who’s leading this thing?”
    “No one! We don’t need a functional government!”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    there arn’t more competent evil people in the ReThug wading pool,

    Mitch McConnell comes to mind.

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    Jay says:

    @Mary G:

    Competent evil people will take a long hard look and realize that the ReThugs, the Gullibillies and the Deplorables are not a path to power,

    But instead, prey.

    And there’s a lot of legal means to prey on them, for great fortune.

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    Jay says:


    Yurtle the Turtle is of an era, like Stone, Cohn, etc.

    With each generation since Gingrinch, they have become more evil, and less competent.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Bruce K: I think I spotted a typo.

    You meant blight, right?

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    Jay says:


    BTDubs, wading pool was an allusion to the up and comers. Yurtles been swimming in the Deep end for a long long time.

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    NotMax says:


    A little flash from the not so distant past.


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    @OzarkHillbilly: the coolest stuff couldn’t really be captured, alas. Too experiential.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Jay: “What’s your five year plan?”
    “Pissing on Mitch McConnell’s grave. Wait! Are you telling me he’ll be dead and buried inside of five years?!”

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    geg6 says:

    A correction to the article is that it is now five GOP senators voting against Drumpf’s “emergency.” Mike Lee, who was the lead on the “compromise,” has announced his vote against.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    wading pool was an allusion to the up and comers.

    Got it, I was just speaking to the evil genius that is uniquely McConnell’s. Underestimate him at one’s own peril.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: Ozark Hillbilly just wants a 3 day reprieve.

    What a masochist.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: Now I’m laughing.

    @Major Major Major Major: Which is why one goes. I’m jealous.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @geg6: Oh no. Are they prepared to be called losers on Twitter by the Tangerine Toddler?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @mrmoshpotato: Pain is how I know I’m still alive.

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

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    geg6 says:


    Heh. Apparently so. Gotta say, Mike Lee has surprised me a few times recently. He’s nuts, as is every Republican, but he’s not completely lost to humanity. Yet.

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    Jay says:


    Ain’t gonna be just piss,……..

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    NotMax says:

    Tank you, Instant Pot. Good price on pears at Costco when was there last week, so whipped up a mess o’ them this way yesterday. (As usual didn’t follow the recipe exactly, did some tweaking.)

    Not the prettiest looking dessert but darn tasty.

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    Jay says:


    Gen 1,2,3 were evil, and competent.

    Gen 4 were raised inside of the conservapedia bubble, and were evil, but not very competent,

    There’s a few Gen 3 terminators left like Yurtle,

    Most of the Gen 4’s left in 2016/2018 to spend more time with their lawyers,……

    Gen 5, run the clown car now and Jacob Whol etc, are Gen 6.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Jay: Oh my flying spaghetti monster!

    I was going to post the ‘sliding into third’ line from the diarrhea song. I couldn’t remember it correctly, so off to the Googles.

    I found this:

    You’re very welcome everyone. Try not to wake anyone up with howls of laughter.

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    mrmoshpotato says:


    Not the prettiest looking dessert but darn tasty.

    Your taste buds and stomach will find it in their hearts to forgive you.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Jay: TBH I can’t put Wohl in with the likes of Gohmert or Nunes. Wohl is an outsider trying to run his grift on the marks ginned up for the fleecing by FOX. He’s a James O’Keefe wannabe without the eye for style. He has no aspirations to join the more accomplished hucksters w/in the GOP who have managed to find themselves elected “representatives” in the US govt. Their kind of scam takes work and years of dedicated ingratiating subservience to the powers that be.

    For people like Wohl, work is anathema. He will do anything to avoid having anything as pedestrian as a “job”.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Thanks for sharing. Really cool.

    I really don’t understand what the Republicans are doing at all with this 30 day renewal nonsense, I don’t understand how it would give them cover, and just why are they so terrified of a mean tweet from Current Resident?

    Pardon me if I babble a little. It’s almost 4 and I was awakened at 2:30 by the house sitter texting us that she won’t be able to spend the night with the cats tonight. Uh. Thanks? Not sure why I needed to know this at this hour. Sleep is now a memory but I’m not quite awake either.

    Wednesday was photography day for the cabin, a bit nerve-wracking. the realtor is doing it up in a manner I didn’t expect. I mean, it’s a cottage, less than 1000 sq ft, and she’s got a professional photographer AND a videographer, and I’m told there was a drone involved but we missed that part of the process because we were busy moving stuff they didn’t want in the photos (oh my gosh, there’s a laundry basket in the laundry area!) including us. This may be part of why sleep is avoiding me right now.

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    Just One More Canuck says:

    @Jay: he’s Caligula’s horse’s ass

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    Amir Khalid says:


    Competent evil people will take a long hard look and realize that the ReThugs, the Gullibillies and the Deplorables are not a path to power,

    But instead, prey.

    Vladimir Putin is more aware of this than most.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @mrmoshpotato: Hmmmmm…. puts me in mind of an early morning monsoon like downpour in a sleepy little village of the Sierra Gorda.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @opiejeanne: Oh noes! You’re really not going to like when they want the washer and dryer moved out of the laundry area for the photos.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Sorry the 99 floors of fright aren’t all winners.

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    debbie says:


    Colbert was talking about this book last night. According to the author, one of the first things Trump wanted to do was fire both Ivanka and Jared. I’m not sure I believe that.

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    debbie says:


    What would it be like if they were competent.

    Those red Christmas trees would have been actual Handmaids.

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    JPL says:

    Did MomSense share her good news with the jackals/

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    debbie says:


    Not that I could find. :(

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    JPL says:

    @debbie: The red trees creeps me out.

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    @opiejeanne: yech, I hate it when I’m awakened and can’t fall back asleep.

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    TS (the original) says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: You just unscrambled the thoughts in my brain.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @mrmoshpotato: Neither was that morning. I still remember the look on the little girl’s face as she peered from the door of her hut looking at the dumb ass gringo out in the frog choking rain with his pants around his ankles and his ass gushing a weeks worth of food and fluid every 5 seconds.

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    debbie says:


    For some reason, those trees were on my mind last night, I think because I saw this headline but didn’t click.

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    @Major Major Major Major: Wow. That’s beautiful and weird.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    one of the first things Trump wanted to do was fire both Ivanka and Jared

    I am not so credulous as to believe that for a NY second.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debbie: What a tease.

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    debbie says:


    Yeah, it kind of kills the credibility of the entire book. :(

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    opiejeanne says:

    @JPL: What good news? Is Momsense the one with the missing husky? Still not completely awake.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @OzarkHillbilly & @debbie: Me three — saw that claim in a NYT article on the book the other day and thought it sounded like bullshit. On the other hand, we know Trump is a big old chickenshit who’s afraid to confront and fire people despite having “you’re fired” as a signature line in a bad TV show. So maybe when Javanka came to his office complaining about Kelly, he pretended to take their side and vice versa, playing both sides of the fence out of pure cowardice.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debbie: I can see trump raging thru the West Wing screaming at the top of his lungs that he was gonna rip their heads off and shit down the holes after some instance of extreme Jarvanka stupidity, but not for a second do I believe anyone thought he meant it.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Betty Cracker: Another credible theory for the origin of this tall tale.

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    Ken says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: He might have meant to fire them, but something undoubtedly distracted him and he forgot all about it. “Squirrel!”

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    satby says:

    @opiejeanne: no, that was Miss Bianca and her Luna didn’t make it. A vet let her know the dog had died. Heartbreaking for Miss Bianca.

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    Baud says:

    @satby: Oh no. That’s immensely sad.

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    JPL says:

    @satby: That is so sad.

    opiejeanne, I have no idea what good news momsense wants to share, but I hope she hit the jackpot.

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    rikyrah says:

    It should already be a battleground state😠

    NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) Tweeted:
    Why Texas Is Nearing Battleground Status (It’s Not Just About Beto)

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    germy says:

    Jacob Wohl Faked Death Threats Against Himself

    Right-wing personality Jacob Wohl appears to have faked death threats against himself and submitted them to police as evidence that he was facing “terroristic threats,” according to newly released documents.

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    rikyrah says:


    Rachel Noerdlinger (@rachelnoerd) Tweeted:
    Black Lawmakers to Block Legalized Marijuana in N.Y. if Their Communities Don’t Benefit – ⁦@nytimes⁩

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    hueyplong says:

    I believe Trump “talked about” firing Jarvanka. I’d guess he mentions firing everyone at one point or another during any 48 hour cycle unbroken by golf, but the puffy coward never actually does it.

    He probably talked about firing Kelly on a daily basis. And parades.

    But unless Fox & Friends or President Coulter says someone needs to be fired, it’s just talk.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Ok Ok, I’ll be the one:

    Miserable Pi Day everyone.

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    Port Richey, FL, had its second mayor arrested within three weeks. The first one left office after a gun battle with a SWAT team trying to arrest him.

    At least we always have Florida to marvel at.

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    hueyplong says:

    @germy: If charged and convicted, Wohl, as a white male Republican, could face days in prison, but only if he threatens the judge or is caught tampering with the jury.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @satby: Oh no! I didn’t hear that Luna had been found, let alone had died. I’m so sorry.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @germy: There’s no honor among RWNJ grifters:

    Activist Ali Alexander, who organized Wohl’s trip to Minneapolis and went with him to the police station, posted a video early Wednesday morning trying to distance himself from Wohl. Alexander claims that Wohl showed the faked direct messages to the police. In the documentary, Alexander compares Wohl to both Batman and Iron Man. But now, he’s backing away fast, saying Wohl may be a “bad actor.”

    “I don’t know what’s going to happen, but man, it doesn’t involve me, and I’m pretty excited about that,” Alexander said.

    Alexander went on to suggest that his issue with Wohl isn’t that he lied, but that he did it in a clumsy way. “It confirms that he’s not operating at a level where there’s useful misinformation, but kind of stupid, vanity-filled, ego-fueled disinformation,” Alexander said. “And that won’t look good for Jacob.”

    Alexander distanced himself further from Wohl in an interview with The Daily Beast on Wednesday. Alexander, whose name is also on the police report, said he didn’t know whether or not Wohl faked the messages. But he said he’d be happy to work with police if they decide to investigate Wohl.

    “If they do, I can’t wait to cooperate,” Alexander said.

    Bus? Meet Jacob Wohl.

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    germy says:

    @hueyplong: Yes, I remember the last controversy with him. The press conference with that other dude about the FBI. And everyone was saying how he’d be “locked up any day now.”

    I don’t know. I’m sure if I did 10% of what this kid gets away with, I’d be wearing a prison jumpsuit.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I get a “word of the day” from Today’s is “upper crust”.

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    germy says:


    it isn’t that he lied, but that he did it in a clumsy way. “It confirms that he’s not operating at a level where there’s useful misinformation, but kind of stupid, vanity-filled, ego-fueled disinformation,”

    And that’s their morality, in a nutshell. The sin isn’t doing wrong, it’s doing wrong incompetently.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: That kid has problems. It’s almost sad to look at.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @germy: Wohl is the Einstein who teamed up with Laura Loomer, the genius who live-streamed handcuffing herself to one of the two front doors at Twitter HQ to protest her de-platforming. It’s a miracle he didn’t slam his dick in the car door on his way to file a false report at the police station.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @satby: Can you post a link to that?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @germy: Yep.

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    germy says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Mayor Dale Massad was arrested when he opened fire on a SWAT team that had come to arrest him on charges of practicing medicine out of his home without a license. Sheriff Chris Nocco said Massad was a violent drug user who kept a stash of weapons in his home, had had previous run-ins with the law

    He was taken alive!

    So… a white guy then.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I think it’s called, “Bad Parenting”.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:
    Second Mayor?🙄🙄🙄

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    @rikyrah: In three weeks. This one was “acting mayor.”

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    germy says:

    @Betty Cracker: When I see him always avoid consequences for his actions, it makes me wonder if I’m living in a bubble. Because for almost a decade disgruntled RW commenters on RW blogs are wondering why Hillary and Obama and Susan Rice are still evading prison.

    And this makes me wonder if I’m their LW equivalent. Every day I come here expecting stories about fifty year prison terms for Manafort, fraud charges against little Jacob, etc. And it never happens.

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    rikyrah says:

    Which is why those responsible will NEVER EVER be forgiven.😠😠

    We phucking begged those assholes to think about the Courts, and they responded that they couldn’t be bullied by us ‘using ‘ the Courts to ‘scare them’😠😠

    Amanda Blount 🌊 (@amandablount2) Tweeted:
    This is why the GOP blocked Obama’s appointments. They were playing the long game. This entire con wasn’t just to get Trump into the WH, it was to put far-right Judges into lifetime positions to change laws and set precedent in court hearings. We will feel this for generations.

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    germy says:

    “useful misinformation”

    – Alexander

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    rikyrah says:

    But, they only cared about illegal immigration…. remember that lie?😠
    We told you that it was a lie.

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    the evil genius that is uniquely McConnell’s.

    I don’t see him as a genius. A genius would have repealed Obamacare, no problem. His caucus desperately wanted to, and he fucked it up. However, he definitely clears the bar of ‘competent’, and is chillingly evil. Cartoon villain evil, actively hunting for every method of hurting as many people as he can within the rules. He has succeeded as well as he has mainly because nobody ever thought to be so big an asshole as to break all the norms of the Senate until McConnell, and his major failures have been because he just could not resist an opportunity for world-class ‘fuck you’ sadism, like destroying Medicaid.

    He’s wildly unpopular in Kentucky. Approval rate lower than 40%. He knows that doesn’t mean a thing as long as you tell Kentucky voters the brown horde is coming. Still, I will hope against hope he gets booted out in 2020, because absolutely no one has done more to damage the United States than McConnell. Trump is a piker who hurts the country only because McConnell is happy to let him.

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    rikyrah says:

    Only for those inclined to not have faith in the first place 😒😒

    Medium (@Medium) Tweeted:
    “Trump’s most significant and unique threat to the efficacy of government lies not in the damage he inflicts on institutions from within, but rather in his ability to destroy public faith in the government’s potential effectiveness,” @jaredbkeller writes

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: To be fair, they’re not asking for forgiveness. Most of them would probably do it again if they had the chance. It’s our lesson to learn who our friends are.

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    rikyrah says:

    Max Planck Society (@maxplanckpress) Tweeted:
    Happy #PiDay, everyone! An especially mouthwatering day for all you #maths lovers writing March 14 as 3/14, the first three digits of the special constant π (pi)! And of course a perfect excuse to eat pie all day!😉

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    rikyrah says:

    Have we ever heard these terms used before? I think not. But, climate change is not real 😒😠😠
    This sounds right out of those movies like Day After Tomorrow 😲😲

    ronald alexander (@djchefron) Tweeted:
    A major “bomb cyclone” blizzard has left hundreds stranded in Colorado and is bringing snow, heavy rain and thunderstorms to the Midwest today and tomorrow.

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    JPL says:

    Weissmann has finished his work for the Mueller investigation, and that is the strongest signal that Mueller is about finished with his report. I’m afraid that there will not be further indictments. ugh

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    rikyrah says:

    Well well well

    Idrees Ahmad (@im_PULSE) Tweeted:
    From IRS filings we know that in the year of its founding, @theintercept paid Greenwald a salary of $518,000 (through a shell company). For the price of one Greenwald it could have retained at least 10 crack journalists and fact checkers on an average salary higher than Vice’s.

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    rikyrah says:

    Uh huh 😒

    Marcus H. Johnson (@marcushjohnson) Tweeted:
    Did Bernie’s base call him out when he was saying Trump voters werent racist or sexist days before the election? When his staffers were implying Clinton would get indicted? When he went to the convention essentially telling his base he would flip superdelegates & overturn voters?

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    JPL says:

    @rikyrah: I know that Tamara prepared for the storm, and I hope that she didn’t have significant damage.

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    rikyrah says:

    Noah Berlatsky (@nberlat) Tweeted:
    Beto’s answer is a *lot* better. Sanders seems to answer this worse every time he’s asked.

    Seriously, Sanders’ answer is defensive racist bullshit. ffs.

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    @germy: I wonder that too. Sometimes even a trip over to Kos makes me realize how balkanized we are. Over there, if someone criticizes Wilmer, they accuse the person of being a troll.

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    rikyrah says:

    We need to go all in for his opponent in 2020.
    ALL IN

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    Baud says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: We’re definitely fractured. It’s a large part of why Trump is president.

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    rikyrah says:

    Approval is in the 30’s.

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    hueyplong says:

    @rikyrah: I’m not even sure Putin would care who won a Sanders vs.Trump election.

    That’s about all you need to know about Wilmer.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: I hope someone winds up a Trump-humping crank to mount an anti-establishment challenge to McConnell in the GOP primary. Someone dumb and angry enough to run third party if he loses. That might be the best bet to dislodge the Senatortoise.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Susie Meister
    ‏Verified account @susie_meister

    Trump autographing Bibles is like Jesus signing tits at a porn convention.

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    rikyrah says:


    Simar (@sahluwal) Tweeted:
    This woman called the @MiamiDadePD after having a gun pulled on her & fearing for her life. When officers arrived they ARRESTED HER for being “disorderly.” Outrageous. These officers need to be charged & fired.

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    I’m afraid that there will not be further indictments. ugh

    I have been told that his job is actually to recommend the top criminals for indictment, not indict them himself. His indictments are for the people he has to squeeze to line up the evidence for whoever indicts the top criminals. That is my possibly incorrect understanding, and not what I was expecting.


    Sanders’ answer is defensive racist bullshit.

    Oh, man. He seriously pulled the ‘we need to stop seeing color’ card to defend his whiteness. Wow.

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    rikyrah says:


    Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) Tweeted:
    Something that will probably get lost in today’s news slog: Republicans just tried to gut protections for Native American women in the Violence Against Women Act

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    Lapassionara says:

    @JPL: How do you know he is finished? Why do you say, if he is finished, that Mueller is almost done?

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    Jesus signing tits at a porn convention.

    I have no difficulty seeing Jesus doing that. It would go well with his ‘stop being judgmental dickheads’ message.

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    rikyrah says:


    Corey J. Miles (@CoreyMiles__) Tweeted:
    Things white people think Black people get because of race:

    College admission
    Athletic ability

    Things white people think have nothing to do with race:

    Police brutality
    Income inequality
    Health care disparities

    Selective colorblindess

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: He also suggested that we pick our candidate on his/her capabilities and their accomplishments.

    Guess that means he’s ending his campaign any day now.

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    MomSense says:


    I was up way too late last night. A beautiful guitar arrived at my house yesterday for my son – an incredible gift. It’s his dream guitar, the kind that was first played by the musicians he idolizes during the depression. A favorite of songwriters for generations. He started playing the old finger style blues songs and just couldn’t stop beaming. Today he is talking to his luthier friend who cannot believe what has happened. Their family makes world class guitars and they are beyond thrilled.

    We have a jackal fairy godmother angel – cannot believe how this person has made a difference in my son’s life.

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    JPL says:

    @Lapassionara: this is from NPR link I doubt that he would leave now if he had a chance to prosecute high profile cases. That’s just my opinion.

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    JPL says:

    @MomSense: That gave me goosebumps, and may he have years of enjoyment. There are angels among us.

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    His followers look at his tiny record and think it’s a dramatic list of success. It was in that thread! The number of ‘worked with to pass’ entries particularly amused me.

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    @MomSense: You, your son, and a jackal fairy godmother have made my day with your joy.

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    JPL says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: Maybe LAO will show up because she knows him. I thought he was key in prosecuting top criminals but I’m not sure .

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    zhena gogolia says:


    I’m getting e-mails from an operation called “Ditch Mitch.” Does anyone know anything about this? I’ve been hesitant to contribute yet.

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    Josie says:


    I can just imagine the joy your son feels playing such a special instrument and what it means to you as his mother. Bless the jackal who made this possible.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Wow, the BJ miracle! I hypothesized that 5 cats came in your window unexpectedly.

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    MomSense says:


    We were talking about my grandmother yesterday. She was an amazing musician who was offered a spot with a touring company in the 1920s but her father thought that kind of music and dancing were the work of the devil. She used to play those old songs on the piano and sing them for him when he was a baby. She died just shy of 100 years old when he was four. It was only years later when he circled back to early blues music he realized why it was so familiar. Life is interesting. What they were singing about is so poignant now.

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    Baud says:

    @MomSense: Wow. That’s wonderful.

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    rikyrah says:

    Uh huh
    Uh huh 😒

    Chris Jackson (@ChrisCJackson) Tweeted:
    Conservatives up in arms about Jussie Smollett filing fake police reports are awfully quiet about disgraced manboy Jacob Wohl doing the same.

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    rikyrah says:

    That is so beautiful 😪😪😪

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    opiejeanne says:

    @rikyrah: I don’t understand why they’d do that. Do they have an interest in violence against NA women?

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    opiejeanne says:

    @MomSense: That’s terrific! I sometimes think some of us here are pretty darned nice.

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    JPL says:

    @MomSense: Now I need a tissue.

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    Sab says:

    @MomSense: Just curious. What kind of guitar was it? I used to play classical guitar, and when I gave mine to my granddaughter it wasn’t very useful because she sings and wanted a folk guitar (strings closer together.) She still plays it a lot but it’s not optimal.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @MomSense: That’s lovely. So happy for you and your son.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Morality + partisan bias = hypocrisy.

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    Do they have an interest in violence against NA women?

    Yes. The same interest they have in hating Black Lives Matter. Whites can brutalize (the rape rate is horrific, something like 80% of Native American women) Native Americans with impunity under the current system. They want to maintain that privilege.

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    rikyrah says:


    @rikyrah: I don’t understand why they’d do that. Do they have an interest in violence against NA women?

    Who do you think is perpetrating this violence against NA women?
    there is your answer

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense: May the circle be unbroken… Congrats.

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    JPL says:

    I just listened to a little bit of Beto and I’d vote for a Kamala/Beto ticket. Of course I’m going to vote for the democrat anyway.

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    SFAW says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    “Morality” + partisan bias = hypocrisy.


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    Betty Cracker says:

    I like Beto, but I don’t think he has the policy chops or even a sufficient notion of what he wants to accomplish to be president. Read this and groan aloud. I realize the current president lacks these essential qualities and is a horrible person to boot. But we really don’t want to lower that bar, I hope.

    That said, I’m glad he’s in the race because one of his major talents seems to be articulating potentially divisive “identity” issues within the Democratic base and persuadable independents in a way that white people can understand. See rikyrah’s comment at #102 for a contrast with Sanders, who is terrible at dealing with so-called identity politics and just makes things worse every time he opens his yap.

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    Shelley Matheis says:

    So, none of these nimrods ever had a parent who told them “You can’t have your cake and eat it.too.””

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    Just One More Canuck says:

    @MomSense: that’s incredible – love to hear him playing it

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    Ruckus says:

    This is part of their problem. They don’t want to be effective. They are shit stirrers. They don’t want effective government because that means the money doesn’t flow as fast to their paymasters. And the lowly get some of what those paymasters don’t get. They believe that ineffective government is the answer to all of their issues, because effective government spends money and has programs for a much larger slice of the population. Notice that they don’t mind spending money on defense stuff, which they get a big chunk of, but they mind spending it on say the VA. Add in the racism that they worship and large chunks of the population get fucked by republican policies, which exist of stealing as much as possible and paying as least as possible.
    ETA This really isn’t much different than conservative policy has been for a very, very long time. What is different is that they have become more empowered to cheat, lie, steal, to get what they want. Not that they didn’t do that before – Nixon – but it is much more common now. Like universally common. They know that if too many get the things that they are trying to steal, they will be marginalized, and badly.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @rikyrah: I know who the rapists in general are, I meant do these lawmakers have a personal interest in it? Never mind, they probably do: their kids, their relatives, some of their own past behavior, etc.

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    MomSense says:


    I hear congratulations are in order for you, too Grandpa. I’m really happy for you.


    It’s a parlor size Martin.

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    danielx says:

    “After Republicans prostrate themselves before Trump, he humiliates them further”

    And they were no doubt surprised by this, for reasons I am at a complete loss to explain.

    It is by no means the first time congressional Republicans have come up with a deal to try to save Trump from his own fuckups, and then see him blow the deal up of his own accord. On the other hand, millions of voters had access to his history which clearly indicated he isn’t to be believed or trusted – and voted for him anyway. What that says about those millions of voters is depressing, but professional pols do deals. You’d think they would have figured out by now that you can’t do deals with a guy who lies the way he breathes, and who is ruled by his own whims.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @opiejeanne: Ok, Now I understand.

    “…During a House Judiciary Committee markup on the 2019 bill to reauthorize the law, Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) offered an amendment to repeal provisions in the 2013 law that give tribes jurisdiction over non-Native people who commit crimes of domestic violence, dating violence or who violate a protection order against a victim on tribal land.

    He claimed that non-Native domestic abusers’ constitutional rights might not be upheld if they harm a Native woman on tribal land and have to go before a tribal court. His amendment would have also stripped out new language in the 2019 bill to expand tribes’ jurisdiction over non-Native abusers who commit crimes of sex trafficking, stalking and violence against law enforcement officers on tribal land….”

    They’re so worried that a white man might be inconvenienced that they try to do this.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @danielx: It’s amazing to me that he told the crowds when he ws running for president that he was a snake that couldn’t be trusted. He quoted that story with the punchline “You knew I was a snake when you took me in!”
    He told them to their faces and the idiots voted for him.

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    Wapiti says:

    @Jay: Isn’t the standard for filing false reports 16 felony charges? Or is that just for POC like Smollett?

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    Ruckus says:


    On the other hand, millions of voters had access to his history which clearly indicated he isn’t to be believed or trusted – and voted for him anyway.

    That information can’t be right, after all he’s the republican candidate. It’s just a smear job, like all politicians do.
    Just explained it in one sentence. Trump is so abhorrent that a lot of people probably couldn’t believe that it was all true. He’s been on TV for god’s sake! Yeah it boggles the mind that thinking and reading and understanding is such a lost art. Plus he’s a massive racist and really, that is far more important to a lot of people than some can imagine. Some folks think that every problem in the world is because of “others.” They are racist to their very cores and will never change, their entire world revolves around racism and hate.

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    Miss Bianca says:


    Blech. Somebody wake me when this week is over.

    I feel you, brother.

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    SFAW says:

    Congrats to your son and to you, sounds wonderful (all aspects of it).

    And thanks to the anonymous jackal who did that for you and your son!

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @MomSense: oh, how sweet is that? Is it an old Martin? : )

    ETA: Of course it was! Should have read farther.

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    5ab says:

    @geg6: He’s LDS (mormon). They are very weird and RWNJ but they are actually religious and have recognizable religious moral values.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    Twitter leftist friends now deciding that ACTUALLY, GenX is the worst generation so they can reject all the non-Bernie candidates for being in the bad age window: too young to be Bernie but older than AOC.

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    Emma says:

    @MomSense: Whoa, Nellie! That was a heck of a gift. Adding my thanks to the jackal that made your son’s day and maybe his career!
    ETA: And now that I know which one it was, double on Nellie!

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Matt McIrvin: LOL! Hopefully knuckleheads like that aren’t too numerous. Maybe Mayor Pete, a millennial, can siphon some off.

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    Aleta says:

    Thank you godmother guitar giver. (Giving me tears). Giving an instrument is like giving life. Thanks Momsense for nurturing a musician cause we need them so much right now.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @Jay: Gen 6, the apex assclown.

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    Aleta says:

    The guitar gift story about Momsense’s gradmother and

    @OzarkHillbilly: May the circle be unbroken… Congrats.

    made me remember a song by Jen Armstrong, about transmission of song from her grandmother to her and then to her daughters.

    And even when her life was hard
    a song helped pull her through.
    I remember when she smiled at me
    said ‘I realize it’s true
    The melodies that came to me
    Have found a home in you.’

    You’re the lucky one
    who carries the song.

    Carry the Song (by Jen Armstrong on Dancing in the Circle)

    [Youtube brings up a different Jennifer Armstrong from Britain. This Jen is one from a Chicago family of musicians (also w/ celtic isles background). Their home was a 40s–70s center for musicians (and folklorists like Joseph Campbell, Studs Terkel, Lomax and song collectors ) and a meeting place for songs/dance from Appalachia, the Delta and the South, British Isles and Chicago itself.]

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    sgrAstar says:

    @geg6: Mike Lee IS totally lost to humanity. He’s my senator- SAD!- and I know him well. Don’t be fooled. Lee is a dangerous mormon nut with an ego the size of Mt Timpanogos.

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