Open Thread: Now Playing at SXSW

The left-leaning millennial crowd here — riding in on a fleet of electric scooters — is highly sought by candidates in the Democratic primary trying to create viral moments and seeking the sheen of authenticity.

“I am pleased to be the P.T. Barnum,” said Evan Smith, chief executive of the Texas Tribune, which was hosting most of the political events.

For the first time in this presidential campaign, most of the Democratic candidates were gathered in the same place. Over barbecue, craft beer and tacos, they took turns selling their vision for the party, and the United States.

Over the course of the weekend, many sat for an hour-long interview. Most dodged questions about whether President Trump should be impeached, said they are eager to see special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s report, and heaped praise on Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), who sometimes seemed to overshadow them all.

Warren drew one of the largest and most enthusiastic crowds, and defended a proposal she outlined Friday to break up companies such as Google, Amazon and Facebook. (Amazon chief executive Jeffrey P. Bezos also owns The Washington Post.)

“The monopolist will make fewer monopoly profits — boohoo,” she said.

She paused when asked whether Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) had tried to discourage her from running, saying, “Bernie and I had a private dinner. My view is that dinner stays private.”

She made clear that, unlike Sanders, she is not a democratic socialist.

“Bernie has to speak to what democratic socialism is,” she said. “All I can tell you is what I believe. And that is there is an enormous amount to be gained from markets. That markets create opportunities.”…

Sanders was not at SXSW — he was in Iowa, praising their caucuses.

239 replies
  1. 1
    Baud says:

    Baud! 2020! will be at North by Northwest (NXNW), because we need a candidate that thinks outside the box.

  2. 2
    Bex says:

    @Baud:@Anthony Zurcher: Then why don’t you shut up about it?

  3. 3
    Baud says:


    Jeez. Tough crowd.

  4. 4
    dmsilev says:

    @Baud: Held at Mount Rushmore, or on board a train that suggestively enters a tunnel at opportune moments? Or both?

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    Turgidson says:

    “Worth noting that not once during the hour-long interview did Warren’s past claims of American Indian heritage come up. This is a look at what her campaign could look like if that particular issue fades into the background.”

    Rest of media: Oh, don’t worry. We would dream of letting that happen.

  6. 6
    NotMax says:

    the presidential hopefuls woo hipsters and techies

    Emphasis on woo.

    Support a mile wide and a waterpipe deep.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Baud! 2020! will be at North by Northwest (NXNW), Giraffe by Banana Crayon (GXBC), because we need a candidate that thinks outside the box.

    You wanna think outside the box, think outside the box.

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    Bex says:

    @Baud: Didn’t mean you. I just get crazed with the way people like Zurcher have to bring up something that even he said wasn’t even mentioned.

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    NotMax says:


    Baud/Mueller ’20!

    “Watch their heads ‘splode.”

  10. 10
    Baud says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: You just nuked the box from orbit. The box is no more.

    @Bex: No worries. I actually had the same thought when I read that tweet.

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    Searcher says:

    @NotMax: the pipes that carry water from the Ashokan reservoir to NYC are hundreds of feet deep in places.

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    Baud says:


    The special prosecutor is coming from inside the White House.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @NotMax: Emphasis on woo.


  14. 14
    NotMax says:


    Difference between a water pipe and a waterpipe.


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    Bill Arnold says:

    WaPo is now blocking if you’re using a script blocker, private window or no. Any way around it that doesn’t involve enabling all scripts? I.e. are there particular scripts they want unblocked? (Deal breaker for me for security reasons, suppose I can use sandboxie or Linux equivalent but…)

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    lollipopguild says:

    @NotMax: Baud!Scanners!2020!

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    SFAW says:


    Held at Mount Rushmore, or on board a train that suggestively enters a tunnel at opportune moments? Or both?

    Not causing crop-duster-on-tanker-ruck violence?

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    BR says:

    Is there video of her interview?

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    JPL says:

    CNN had a town hall with John Delaney and in a different time, he’d be viewed as a solid candidate just sayin

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    Baud says:

    How does one read two books a week in that job? I feel lucky if I get through two books a year.

  21. 21

    @Baud: Mahatma Baud is Cary Grant, who knew!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    She paused when asked whether Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) had tried to discourage her from running, saying, “Bernie and I had a private dinner. My view is that dinner stays private.”

    very interesting…. both that it happened and she let it be known that it happened like that

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    Baud says:

    @JPL: Yeah. He’s pretty reasonable for a proud centrist. He believes what he believes but I don’t think he engages in the usual centrist memes against progressives.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Wow, AOC is the Second Coming of Christ.

    Moderates are more naive than the visionaries if they think tinkering around the edges will solve systemic problems in our democracy and economy.

    It’s time to rewrite the social contract, not manage decline.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @JPL: @Baud: Interesting, I admit I haven’t given him that much attention. My inclination in this round is to sit back and let things shake out before I get too excited about any one candidate, but I’ve been thinking I might send Inslee some money. I don’t think he has a chance but he’s running on climate, so I’ll put a little money where my mouth is.

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    Baud says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I want to hope she tried to discourage him from running.

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    JPL says:

    @Baud: Actually it doesn’t appear that he engages anyone, but moi.

    BTW Tucker Carlson is a misogynistic pig but will Fox care? I think not.

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    Jay says:


    Some people still read to wind down rather than Netflix and Chill.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Baud: How does one read two books a week in that job? I feel lucky if I get through two books a year.

    She quit posting here. People have been wondering where Corner Stone went? Maybe the answer is SXSW

    @zhena gogolia: I see truth in what she says, but she needs to fight the real enemy, as Sinead O’Connor told us

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Her using the word “naive” about people who have been busting their butts for decades is a little rich.

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    CatFacts says:

    @Bill Arnold: I can get Washington Post links to work on the latest Firefox, private window, Adblock Plus on and cookies off, if (and only if) I go to about:config in another tab and manually toggle “javascript.enabled” off, then refresh the original WaPo tab. I haven’t tried in Chrome.

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    NotMax says:


    Phew. Took a solid hour but the big, big beef roast has all been sliced thin enough for sammiches (or whatever). Didn’t time it on purpose, but the computer monitor screen shuts off after an hour of being idle so it was at least that long.

    1) Figure out where I had stored the venerable electric meat slicer.
    2) As it hasn’t been used in years, give it a preliminary washing.
    3) Cut roast into hunks which the machine can best accommodate
    4) Slice, slice, slice. Stack, stack, stack.
    5) Place neatly in storage bags, half in fridge, half in freezer. Two gallon size zip lock bags stuffed to the limit.
    5) Close to 30 minutes to take the whole thing apart and give every piece, every nook and cranny, a thorough scrubbing afterwards. Had forgotten what a PITA that is.

    Best part:

    6) Sitting with feet up, idly munching on the scraps.

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    Baud says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    @zhena gogolia:

    Kevin Drum had a term, I believe it was “situational moderates.” Basically, progressives who politically practical about what can be achieved at a given point in time. Those people don’t think they are solving problems but recognize they are performing triage and holding the line.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @zhena gogolia: I’m watching Kasie DC on MSNBC for some reason (very tired and too lazy to get up and do that last chore for the day), and they played a clip of Wilmer saying that his positions have been adopted by “most Democrats”, I think is how he put it. I’m hearing a lot of this, and not just from Wilmerites. This is nonsense. Kamala Harris had to back away from her call to abolish private insurance like a hot stove, I believe Warren and Booker have both pulled back from this as well, in spite of co-sponsoring his legislation. The new Iowa poll shows 36% support for “free college”. All of which is a long-winded way of saying that AOC is in the same bubble as Wilmer, “everyone who follows me on twitter agrees with me!”

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:


    You’re probably reading the equivalent in Balloon Juice “feed.”

    I’m in the same situation: book consumption way down, Internet consumption way up over the last 10 years.

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    tobie says:

    @zhena gogolia: I think you’re on to something with the messianism.

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    JPL says:

    So does Tucker survive the latest filth that he is spinning? link
    I assume yes
    Murdoch is more concerned about the money.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    i.e. Obama.

  39. 39
    zhena gogolia says:


    She’s going to rewrite the social contract tomorrow, didn’t you know? I’m so excited!

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    Baud says:

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    Now I’m wondering if I chose wisely.

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    NotMax says:

    @Bill Arnold

    Disable javascript. I routinely web surf with it off; 90+% of sites I visit display just fine. No prob to re-enable it for the others (various add-ons for Firefox available which let you readily toggle it on/off with one click).

  42. 42

    Saw this on Twitter:

    If Captain Marvel had a feminist “agenda,” then every action movie with a white male lead has a patriarchal, white supremacist agenda.

    Wait…I might have to re-think this.

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    waratah says:

    The Texas tribune had E Warren’s interview live yesterday but I cannot find it on there site they generally post and leave them there. She was wonderful if anyone can find it. The guy that interviewed just sat back and let her go. She was relaxed and fun.

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    JPL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: In a perfect world he would have a chance but the media is concerned about dems being socialists and he doesn’t fit their scenario.

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    Baud says:

    @NotMax: Thanks!

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    NotMax says:


    Once you’re installed at 1600 Pennsylvania, you’ll have all that executive time to catch up.


  48. 48


    I’m seeing clips of that interview on Twitter.

    Sweet Jesus. When Bubba the Love Sponge comes across as the Voice of Reason, the other SOB has completely lost it.


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    tobie says:

    @zhena gogolia: @Baud: Overhauling an entire economic system always has unintended consequences. Even the ACA had tons of hiccups, and many complained that the ACA was no more than the regulation of the insurance industry.

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    @Baud: Sounds like an exaggeration just like the Native American claims.

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    Just Chuck says:

    @PaulWartenberg: I wouldn’t say the movies have an agenda, they just serve it. Attributing villiany to everything that isn’t progressive is what Wilmerites do.

  52. 52
    zhena gogolia says:

    I still feel as if Kamala is the only one who hasn’t said anything that irritates me.

  53. 53
    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Cue Allen Sherman:

    All day, all night, Cary Grant –
    That’s all I hear from my wife is “Cary Grant”.
    What can he do that I can’t?
    Big deal, big star, Cary Grant,,,

  54. 54
    Anne Laurie says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    very interesting…. both that it happened and she let it be known that it happened like that

    Warren’s an honorable person, and a pretty damned good politician.

    (My personal suspicion, of course, is that he tried to intimidate her into not running, probably by talking about how he just wouldn’t be able to control the ‘enthusiasm’ of his eager (toxic) supporters, whose online comments would (do) make Trump’s supporters look like feminists. But I didn’t say that in the post, because if he did, I expect the old phart to blow up & start publicly lying about the dinner by tomorrow morning.)

  55. 55
    Baud says:

    @tobie: Right. I get worried about implementation challenges. I don’t think that’s a reason not to try to do big things, but sometimes it seems like people think everything will be easy once you overcome the “corruption.”

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    NotMax says:

    @zhena gogolia

    All things come to those who wait.


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    Baud says:

    @schrodingers_cat: I’m going to treat the tribal stuff like the email issue. Not relevant to me at all.

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    JPL says:

    @PaulWartenberg: I doubt that Fox cares, but it would be a good time for Tom Perez to mention this is why Fox won’t do our debates.

    Truthfully I never heard the word cunty.. I still don’t think it’s in the dictionary, but guess I’ll have to ask Tucker.

  59. 59
    Jay says:


    One motivates the crowd by promising to swing for the fences, even if you have to bunt to get a base or a runner in.

    Nobody is interested in a promise to bunt all the time.

    People are fed up with the rigged system, especially young people.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Anne Laurie: My personal suspicion, of course, is that he tried to intimidate her into not running, probably by talking about how he just wouldn’t be able to control the ‘enthusiasm’ of his eager (toxic) supporters

    I always think of two observations from Wilmer’s former colleagues. From memory, Charlie Rangel saying he had never had a conversation with Bernie Sanders. He had been lectured by BS, yelled at by BS, but never a conversation. And Barney Frank saying that he cannot accept than anyone who disagrees with him does so for reasons other than corruption or cowardice.

  61. 61
    eemom says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    I am so very, VERY fucking sick of her.

    And let’s not even get into a solid week of oxygen-sucking by her disgusting little anti-Semite co-twat.

    Yep. I’m going there. These little ladies need to go back and finish kindergarten before they lecture the actual grownups.

  62. 62
    zhena gogolia says:


    Yes. Let’s not repeat the Matt Lauer experience.

  63. 63
    Baud says:


    It’s politics. Whatever works, works. It hasn’t worked yet to any significant degree, but maybe between Trump and demographic change, now is the time.

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    Another Scott says:

    @CatFacts: Seems complicated. ;-)

    I can get to WaPo stories if I do the following:
    1) go to and find a link to the story. E.g.
    2) copy that URL
    3) open a Chrome Private Browsing window.
    4) paste the URL in the address bar and hit enter.

    It worked just now. I don’t know how many times it will work, but so far so good.



  65. 65
    Anne Laurie says:


    Sounds like an exaggeration just like the Native American claims.

    Warren’s an ex-teacher, from a generation that still reads books to wind down. Not to mention reading books instead of her phone while waiting in lines, waiting for votes to be called, during her less scintillating Repub colleagues’ floor speeches. So it’s quite possible she finishes two novels — maybe sometimes books she’s re-reading — in a week. She didn’t claim to be reading weighty political tomes or Robert Caro biographies!

  66. 66
    Amir Khalid says:


    Rest of media: Oh, don’t worry. We would dream of letting that happen.

    Would, or wouldn’t?

  67. 67
    NotMax says:


    Notice that Baud! has never – not once – disclosed what percentage of his heritage is Neanderthal.

    Inquiring minds…


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    Baud says:

    @Anne Laurie: I’m impressed then.

  69. 69
    Baud says:


    I don’t practice identity politics.

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    JPL says:

    @Baud: No shit.

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    Inventor says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Senator Warren regularly corresponds with my sister, who was once a law student of Warren’s. She is known among her friends to be a voracious reader and is always trading recommendations. I have zero difficulty believing that she reads two books per week.

    She claimed that her relatives told her there was a Native American among her ancestors. How is that an exaggeration? Did her relatives actually convey the information to her by pantomime, so that she was exaggerating when she said they “told” her? Exactly in what way did she exaggerate anything?

    You should not be so trusting of Trump’s bullshit.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @SFAW: Now I’m going to have to watch North by Northwest! Thanks a lot! Haven’t seen it for a few years.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    You’re nobaudy ’til somebaudy loves you.

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    JPL says:

    @Inventor: That is what she should have said and most of the audience would have agreed. Our heritage is what our parents told us it was.

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    NotMax says:


    Slightly different (in a good way) viewing experience after learning that Martin Landau and Hitchcock were in agreement that Landau’s character was gay – and had a crush on James Mason’s character.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    It is as superb as you remember.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: This is what I see as Bernie’s greatest flaw: he’s an asshole. He can’t play well with others. He’ll be another Donald, coming from a different side of the political spectrum, pissing off people with me me me me attitude.

    Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: That roast was 8+ pounds wasn’t it?

    Should we start a pool on when your comments are just series of moos?

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    LivinginExile says:

    @Baud: I had a cat that liked to think outside the box. OOOps, you said think!

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    NotMax says:


    8.31 pounds before cooking.

    Hey, all the bullsh*t has to begin someplace, and needs occasional restocking.


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    Omnes Omnibus says:


    That is what she should have said

    She did. And then people grabbed it and twisted it all out of shape.

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    Inventor says:

    @JPL: What did she say that was different?

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    Mike in NC says:

    Senator Warren reads two books every week. Trump has probably never read two books in a decade.

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    Inventor says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Exactly.

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    lamh36 says:

    Good evening POU.

    Just a TV heads up…the Aretha Franklin GRAMMY tribute I attended way back in January airs tonight on CBS. 8pm CST, otherwise check your local listings!

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    NotMax says:


    Not to dwell on it but that was the smallest size I was able to find from digging through the meat case at Costco.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @NotMax: Wow. Hats off to that response.

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    Baud says:

    OT. WaPo

    President Trump’s “zero tolerance” immigration policies are forcing corporate America into a tricky calculus: embrace the business opportunities presented by the expanded immigration detention regime or heed the backlash from the public and even their own employees.

    Last week, JPMorgan Chase, the nation’s largest bank, became the latest major corporation to distance itself from Trump’s immigration policies, concluding that its investments in private detention centers conflicted with its broader business strategy.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @JPL: So Sean Hannity is the least creepy/crazy person on Fox primetime? At least until they get a warrant to start digging in his basement

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    While Warren is running a positive, consumer policy based campaign, Wilmer is still running against…. wait for it… Democrats and Hillary

    DES MOINES — In Council Bluffs, he broke from his prepared remarks to warn his supporters that they were up against not only Republicans and Wall Street and corporate interests — but “the establishment Democrats,” too.

    In Des Moines, he thanked the crowd for nearly delivering an upset victory against Hillary Clinton in the Iowa caucuses four years ago. And in Iowa City, he made a point to note that before those votes had even been cast, “my opponent then had 500 superdelegates.”

    Jeff Weaver, a senior Sanders strategist who served as campaign manager in 2016, said that while the Democratic Party has seen “a great transformation” in Sanders’s own image, “a small sliver of the party that adheres to failed neo-liberal policies will fight very hard to stop Bernie Sanders and this grassroots movement.”

    Asked to identify those forces, Weaver named staunch Clinton supporter David Brock, former Clinton aide Zac Petkanas, and the “literati on Twitter.”


    Tom Watson
    ‏Verified account @tomwatson

    He’s still obsessed with that woman. This is actually kind of a sad story.

    3:20 PM – 9 Mar 2019 from Mount Vernon, NY

    36 replies 106 retweets 512 likes

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    Steve in the ATL says:


    How does one read two books a week in that job? I feel lucky if I get through two books a year.

    I read at least two books a week and my year contains a hell of a lot more work days than a senator’s work year does. Of course, I don’t fundraise.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Mike in NC: Sam Bee thinks Dump can’t read.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    @Mike in NC: He’s has said in multiple interviews the last book he read was “All Quiet on the Western Front”.

    That was a book I was required to read when I was 12 years old in my 7th grade literature class.

    Which means, at age 73, Drumpf hasn’t read a book in 61 years.

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    @Inventor: I am not. Nor am I trusting of BS that come out Ds. Like Sherrod Brown and his support for tariffs for example. Two books per week sounds like an exaggeration to me. YMMV. She probably reads a lot, perhaps two a month or something but that doesn’t sound impressive in her mind.

    She also blamed HRC of rigging the primaries and then walked back the claim. So she says stuff and then downgrades her claim.

    BTW she is my senator and I voted for her last fall and the issue her native American heritage did not play any part in my decision. I voted for her because she was much better than the R she was running against.

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    eemom says:

    Um, why are we arguing about the Native American thing when even the asshole tweeter admits it’s not an issue anymore?

    Here is what concerns me about the current news cycle, to the extent it means anything. The hackbots keep talking about Biden and Beto being ahead in the utterly meaningless polls. So much for our four exciting women candidates. “White Man Is All That Can Save Us From Dump”, seems to be the meme du jour.

    So, DOES that mean anything? Maybe not. But we are all agonizingly aware of how very open the moron electorate is to ceding whatever little judgment they possess to the dictates of the emmessemm whores.

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    Baud says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: I’m kind of glad. Better than him successfully revamping his image.

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    lamh36 says:

    @lamh36: not POU…BJ…lol

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    Baud says:

    @Steve in the ATL: And you Juice! I’m impressed and a bit ashamed.

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    Jay says:


    The Trudeau Shitshow.

    He and the Liberals ran on an aspirational platform, and despite having a Majority, and NDP and Green support for most of their platform, ran away every chance they got.

    That’s why people are pissed and are calling the Liberals “fake”.

    Climate Change, fail.
    Electoral Reform, fail.
    End of Life, major fail.
    Family and Children, fail.
    Green Energy, massive fail.
    Womens Rights and Equality, huge fail, “fake feminist”,
    Reconcilliation, massive fail,
    MAMWI, completely toxic,
    Corruption, massive fail,
    Wage and EI Reform, fail.

    All Trudeau has turned out to be is pretty, with a weird sock fetish.

    We voted for Change and we got Same.

    I’m afraid we are going to wind up with Scheer and the Nazis.

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    @Anne Laurie: Its possible but highly unlikely.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Trump can actually read, of course. What he sucks at is (1) having the patience to finish reading anything as long as a one-page memo, unless there are pictures of him; and (2) retaining information.

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    HeleninEire says:

    @eemom: Oh hun. No.

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    sukabi says:


    BTW Tucker Carlson is a misogynistic pig but will Fox care? I think not.

    That’s actually a requirement for working at FOX.

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    Another Scott says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Someone who has written eleven non-fiction books can be expected to be a voracious reader. Remember she was also a professor. Two a week isn’t that much for such people.



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    NotMax says:


    Well, he does have all that sitting in the airport lounge time.


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    Baud says:

    @Jay: That sucks. Canada deserves better.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:


    Doesn’t mean anything. The obligatory, “at this point, polling is meaningless….”

    Iowa Caucus Poll — March 2007 (link)


    Also too, Jimmy Who? from 1975 concurs.

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    @Another Scott: I too am capable of reading several books a week but that’s usually when I am on a vacation. She is authoring policies to change our entire economy, run for President and be a senator, and read two books a week, all at once? I call bullshit.

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    Jay says:


    If we get Scheer and the Nazis, it’s going to be Trudeau and 98% of the Liberal MP’s fault, and there is a good chance the Soverignists will sweep Quebec.

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    Jay says:


    You also spend hours reading and commenting on BJ, and watching TV.

    Some people read instead.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Of course they did. That was their agenda.

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    NotMax says:


    Speed reading, while not ideal, is not a myth.

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    Baud says:


    I don’t know. The fundamental rule of lawyering is always be billing. Airport time should be dedicated to that.

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    @Jay: We tried that here, it doesn’t work well.

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @Bill Arnold:

    WaPo is now blocking if you’re using a script blocker, private window or no.

    Do you have a sample page? My getting the front page and randomly selecting a story looks ok.

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    Emma says:

    @schrodingers_cat: The native american claims she made — that her family history said that one of her ancestors had married a native american were proven TRUE. The genetic test proved it was TRUE. Can we stop sounding like freaking republicans?

    BTW, I have a full-time job and look after an 84 year old father. And I read one book and a number of articles, both professional and of personal interest, a week.

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    Another Scott says:

    @schrodingers_cat: People are different.

    Have you seen Brad DeLong’s blog? He is an incredibly voracious reader, and he updates his complex blog every day, and keeps up with the news, and has time for Twitter and being on TV and at several institutions of higher learning beyond UC Berkeley, and teaches classes there. And who knows what else. He’s an outlier, but he’s not unique.

    Just because you would have trouble with her reading pace (and I would as well) doesn’t mean that she’s incapable of doing it.

    It’s fine to have problems with her, but don’t automatically assume that [s]he’s BSing us.

    My $0.02.


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    Peale says:

    @Jay: yep.

    Dilma Rousseff Of the north.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    That’s a pretty naive statement, if she made it. As long as Republicans control the WH, the Senate, and the Supreme Court, the reality is that progress can be made, but SOLUTIONS!!! are not happening.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    It’s somebody named Waleed somebody tweeting that she said this at SXSW, and it was “spot on.”

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    NotMax says:


    Not being a fundamentalist: an admirable attribute.


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    Heidi Mom says:

    @schrodingers_cat: @schrodingers_cat: I read at least two books a week, mostly mysteries but some serious fiction and non-fiction as well. I’m semi-retired now, but didn’t read appreciably fewer books when I was employed full-time. Senator Warren strikes me as someone disciplined enough to make time for something that matters to her as much as reading apparently does.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Fuck that asshole.

    It is astonishing to me how HRC manages to take up so much rent-free space in white male politicians’ heads, whatever their ideological persuasion. Yet another way in which Trump and Wilmer strike me as two sides of the same wretched coin, rather than being supposed polar opposites.

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @NotMax: Is it time to brag about my Homus Halitosus genes?

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    burnspbesq says:


    Don’t be an idiot, Elaine.

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    @Miss Bianca:

    Yet another way in which Trump and Wilmer strike me as two sides of the same wretched coin

    I came to that conclusion during the primaries in 2016.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Oh, Christ, not that moron.

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    Baud says:

    @Miss Bianca: IKR? Even after they prevented her from being president.

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    Felanius Kootea says:

    OT: I’m mourning today. A Nigerian-Canadian colleague of mine died in the Ethiopian Airlines crash today. Pius Adesanmi was an amazing human being and a professor at Carleton University. I can’t imagine what his wife and kid are going through right now.

    The plane was one of the new Boeing 737 aircraft with an anti stall feature that seems to be confounding pilots. This crash is similar to the Lion Air crash in Indonesia. I hope Boeing is paying attention.

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    NotMax says:

    @Millard Filmore

    Perhaps better to not breathe a word of it?


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    Baud says:

    @Felanius Kootea: I’m sorry for the loss of your friend.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Felanius Kootea: Oh, my dear, I am so sorry to hear it. Such an appalling loss to so many, many people. Mourning with you.

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    rikyrah says:


    He will always be Don Craig on DOOL
    Channing Creighton Capwell on Santa Barbara to me.

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    Lapassionara says:

    @Felanius Kootea: me too. So sad. Also, 6 minutes into flight. Seems very odd.

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    Inventor says:


    BTW she is my senator and I voted for her last fall and the issue her native American heritage did not play any part in my decision. I voted for her because she was much better than the R she was running against.

    It played no role yet you felt compelled to call her a liar about it. You accused her of exaggerating about what her relatives told her with no evidence to support your accusation and you accused her of lying about her reading habits; again, with no evidence to support your accusation. I don’t know what Sherrod Brown has to do with it.

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    NotMax says:

    @Felanius Kootea

    Oh, you can bet the farm they are. Modern planes relay a spate of performance data in real time to the manufacturers. How they handle the data is the big question.

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    Jay says:


    Trudeau promised Electoral Reform and Por-Rep.

    He did nothing.

    In my “region” that would have in the last Election resulted in 1 Con, 1 Dipper and 1 Lib. Instead we have 3 Cons. Por-Rep would have guarenteed at a minimum, Liberal minority governments for generations. Instead, Trudeau and the Liberals broke their election promise and kept the FPTP system, they didn’t even engage in discussions, to protect their ability to win majorities in the future. As a result, they screwed Canada for their self benifit for a Generation or more.

    Instead, in my riding, one of two things will happen. Liberal votes will break for the Greens and the Con will get re-elected, or less likely, because the Dippers are imploding, Liberal votes will break for the NDP and for the first time since the 80’s we will have an NDP MP.

    This is going to happen all across Canada, with the added factor of the Soveignists in Quebec. The Liberals are going to lose seats in BC, Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, the North, and the Atlantic Canada.

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    mrmoshpotato says:

    @Amir Khalid: Ok ok. Can’t read past kindergarten level.

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    noncarborundum says:

    @Emma: I was a bit taken aback at the idea that two books a month is “a lot”, particularly for a college professor. I suppose it depends on what you’re used to.

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    Jay says:


    This is the second crash. Pilots claim that the anti-stall feature works significantly differently on this model and that Boeing did not disclose this information in training or manuals.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    My personal suspicion, of course, is that he tried to intimidate her into not running [. . .].

    He offered her the vice presidency in the upcoming socialist landslide.

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    @Jay: Sounds like y’all are going to make the same mistake that we did, good luck.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @noncarborundum: two books a week, and I assume some, maybe most, of those are to some degree related to her work and political interests. It’s not like she’s claiming to read Les Miserables and War and Peace every week in her leisure time.

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    Jay says:


    Yup. Scheer will probably get a majority, not because more Canadians vote Con, ( if anything, they will probably get less votes than last election), but instead fewer Canadians vote Liberal.

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    Steve in the ATL says:


    The fundamental rule of lawyering is always be billing. Airport time should be dedicated to that.

    I’m in house, dude–it’s like a 24/7 party!

    Not really. But I no longer live in 6-minute hell.

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    That the president of the United States purportedly keeps a copy of Mein Kampf on his bedside table ought to be an impeachable offense in and of itself.

    Remember this? (Emphasis added.)

    The book, which Bannon had given to Trump as a token of his love and friendship during the 2016 campaign, had been among Trump’s most prized possessions, aides said.

    “Trump loved that book, but now he feels that having Bannon’s name on it ruins it,” an aide said.

    Another aide, however, cautioned not to make too much of the fact that Trump discarded the Bannon-signed Hitler book. “He’s still got plenty of other copies,” the aide said. Source

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    Inventor says:


    I was a bit taken aback at the idea that two books a month is “a lot”, particularly for a college professor. I suppose it depends on what you’re used to

    It’s not. Senator Warren has an exceptional intellect. The fact that she still corresponds with former students in spite of her work load is an insight into her personality.

    She will stumble like all politicians, but I bristle at the gratuitous bashing of Democrats, especially by erstwhile “supporters”.

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    @Steve in the ATL:

    I’m in house, dude–it’s like a 24/7 party!

    Steve is in da house! Let’s Party!

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    trollhattan says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:
    I’m finding my disdain for him has no limits. I hope he gets crushed early, but even after it occurs he’ll hang around for the camera time.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Felanius Kootea:
    Very sad news. One of many losses to humanity on a plane carrying so many of the world’s best and brightest.

    I’m sure Boeing’s staff lawyers and outside counsel are paying close attention. If there is so much as the merest hint of manufacturer liability, this sort of thing can attract big lawsuits and order cancellations.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: I’m working on being in da hoos as well in light of our Canadian regulars, but I haven’t been to a Tim Horton’s in over a year. Tabernac!

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    GxB says:

    @eemom: Glad to see our bile golem is back.

    I know you’re a long time poster but your function has been largely equivalent of a troll the whole time I’ve seen you post, albeit low keyed until now. Therefore, I have no qualms to tell you to:


    Your Johnnie-one-note shtick is goddamn worse than a chud’s incessant MAGA chant. Warts and all, progress ain’t always pretty, and fossils like you need to be left in the dust. Enjoy the pie.

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    Mayim says:

    I have no trouble believing the two books a week reading pace. Seriously ~ it’s quite possible, if it’s something Warren prioritizes or even just out of habit. Some people are readers and it’s how they relax and/or gather information.
    I aim for 365 a year and usually manage 300 to 325. Yeah, some of those are re-reads or fairly quick reads {I can go through 3 or 4 cozy mysteries on a snowy Sunday afternoon like today…}, but at least one a week and usually a couple are fairly heavy {literally and figuratively!} books.
    I come from a family of readers ~ it wasn’t unusual for my whole family to be reading in the evening, without the television on, when I was growing up. Both my parents were educated professionals; my mother was a college professor and administrator, with a more than full time job, as well as working on an additional graduate degreemost of my childhood, so she read for work and classes ~ but she also jealously guarded her personal reading time.
    So, yeah, I believe Warren on the two books a week. No need to add skepticism about something that’s actually fairly reasonable to the mix.

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    NotMax says:

    @Steve in the ATL

    You next mission, should you decide to accept it, is to rehabilitate the image of Americans in Hanoi.


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    @Steeplejack: Good for her that she didn’t accept.
    @noncarborundum: Not two per month, two per week.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I’m not on Team Beto, I’m pretty much Team Broken Glass, but this is interesting (Politico link)

    GOP meddles in Democratic nomination with takedown of O’Rourke
    The Club for Growth sees the ex-Texas congressman as a serious threat to Donald Trump, and they’re treating him accordingly.
    By ALEX ISENSTADT 03/10/2019 04:00 PM EDT
    A prominent conservative group is thrusting itself into the Democratic primary with a TV ad assailing Beto O’Rourke — a move that comes as Republicans consider a broader campaign to meddle in the opposing party’s contest to take on President Donald Trump.
    The anti-tax Club for Growth is expected to begin airing a two-minute commercial in Iowa this week aimed at dampening liberal support for O’Rourke, who’s expected to enter the race any day. The spot paints the former Texas congressman as a politician dripping with “white male privilege” who’s undeserving of the comparisons he’s drawing to Barack Obama.

    a two minute ad? My first thought was, “Do these doofi know about Tivo?” then I thought maybe that’s a reaction to Tivo, it gets fast forwarded, but people see the images for a little longer. What do I know?

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    rk says:


    I use to read one book a day. I was a very fast reader. Don’t do it anymore as I lost all interest. In fact I used to be not able to go to sleep unless I read for a few hours in bed. Even now when I read I sometimes have to slow myself down because I read too fast. Two books a week sounds completely doable to me.

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    Jay says:


    It’s not even close to being the same mistake. Here, you vote in your Riding for your MP. Which ever Party get’s the most MP’s elected, gets to try to form the Government. The Leader of that Party, ( if elected in their Riding), becomes PM.

    In the last election, Canadians voted for the Liberal’s Apirational Platform, and gave them a majority ( mandate) to “git er done”.

    Instead, we got “same” and a Pretty Boy with a sock fetish.

    So, or about a generation, Canada will alternate between a Nazi Party bare majority, and Do Nothing Liberal Minorities/bare Majorities, until either the Greens, ( not a Russian Front, Elizabeth May is rated by a huge margin the most ethical and trustworthy Politician in Canadian Politics) or the NDP, can get a Majority.

    So, Canada should reach it’s 2020 Paris Climate Change targets sometime in 2070.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Why are these clowns still in business–how much lower can taxes go for rich people?!

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    eemom says:


    Fuck off, Paul Burns, Esq.

    Hey, has no one ever pointed out to you how hilariously pompous it is for a lawyer to refer to HIMSELF as an Esq.? Kind of along the lines of addressing yourself as “My Honor”.

    Didn’t think they needed to teach Remedial Clueless 101 in law school, but here we are.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Jay: shit, there will be palm trees in Toronto by 2070

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Steve in the ATL: interesting to me that they picked O’Rourke, but maybe they’re as bad at calling primaries as I am

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    NotMax says:


    Faster if the assign a squad of people with brooms out in front before the ice is gone. //

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    MoxieM says:

    @schrodingers_cat: I think it’s entirely reasonable. She raised two kids while attending college and working. From my experience, nothing in the world hones your time management skills like raising kids, being a student and working, all at the same time. It’s like being one of those circus performers who balance spinning plates on sticks. For years. And Sen. Prof. Warren is clearly both driven and brilliant. I have no trouble believing it at all.

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    NotMax says:


    Ack; they, not the.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @NotMax: I’ll start prepping immediately, if I can just find a VCR for this aerobics tape….

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: no kidding. I haven’t gotten a prediction on that right since…ever

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    Sab says:

    @GxB: Bile golem? Wow. That’s going to stick in my mind.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Mein Kampf is notorious for its toxic ideas, nonsensical argument, and lousy writing. Trump may keep a copy on his bedside table for symbolic reasons but I doubt he’s read it all the way through.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @Baud: I suspect Warren contracts out a lot of the drudgery that most of us end up spending hours a week on: someone else cleans her house, does her laundry, does most of her grocery shopping and all the other errands that need doing, like picking up the dry cleaning, taking the car to get its oil changed, etc.

    That leaves a good amount of time to read books.

    We are also assuming she is reading each book carefully. I often hop and skip through non-fiction, making note for future reference that this information is here, that information is there. I saw on Lawyers, Guns and Money recently that Eric Loomis described a similar approach to keeping up with the literature in his field.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Steve in the ATL:
    When I Google Street View my old Seattle neighborhood there are palm trees next door to my childhood home. Fucking palm trees at fucking 47 degrees north.

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    Jay says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Yup, and the Salish Sea will be a toxic dead zone.

    On the bright side, all the forests in BC will have been burned away so the fire hazard will be reduced.

    On the bad side, there won’t be any hydro electricity any more.

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    Who is to say Ivanka’s job isn’t to come in and read passages to him until he drifts off?

    Except on Friday nights.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @NotMax: Who is to say Ivanka’s job isn’t to come in and

    Geeze, you could plausibly end that sentence in a lot of strange ways

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I once read Moby Dick cover to cover on a plane journey to the US that took a whole day. I can read fast, but then I don’t seem to retain much of what I read.

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    Jay says:


    Vancouver has had Palm Trees for decades, (1930’s) not because of global warming, but because of imports of cold tolerant species from New Zealand’s South Island and Tasmania. In the early 80’s they became common and affordable.

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    NotMax says:


    The toxic dust from a dry Salish seabed will impact a lot wider area than just locally.

    The ‘sea to sea’ plan does look promising, however, as the terrain is mostly downslope from the ocean.

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    Jay says:


    Sweepings hard, hurry hard.

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    rivers says:

    Many books are 350 to 400 pages. So two books a week works out to 100 pages a day or so. For a decent – as opposed to very fast- reader that’s an hour and a half a day. Perhaps she doesn’t watch television or perhaps she refrains from arguing with everyone on the internet who’s wrong. She could easily find an hour and a half a day, particularly if this is an activity which she enjoys, as she seems to.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    1. Call me Ishmael.
    2. blah blah blah
    3. Moby Dick sinks the Pequod; only Ishmael survives.

    You’re welcome.

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    NotMax says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Alexa! Brain bleach! Stat!!

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Jay: so Vancouver’s palm trees are affordable; its real estate is not. Got it.

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    Jay says:


    The sea bed won’t be dry. Instead the dead Salish Sea will be about 30% larger and 50 feet higher. There just won’t be any annual rivers flowing into it, just seasonal ones.

    It might still have jellyfish.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Thanks for fucking spoiler alert. Damn you.

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    Jay says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Ever play “Crack House or Mansion”?

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    noncarborundum says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Inventor: @schrodingers_cat: I know she said two a week, and I believe her. My reference was to @schrodingers_cat‘s skeptical comment

    Two books per week sounds like an exaggeration to me. YMMV. She probably reads a lot, perhaps two a month or something

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    Sab says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Asshole! I know it was written 167 years ago, but I haven’t read it yet, and I was planning to during my retirement.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: dude, you had the WHOLE FLIGHT to finish it! Assuming you were also on a day-long flight somewhere some time.

    I’ll post “spoiler alert” before I talk about the effervescent Silas Marner though.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I can read fast, but then I don’t seem to retain much of what I read.

    Funny, you’re not the first professional journalist I’ve heard say something like that…

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @noncarborundum: ah, missed that

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    Ruckus says:

    Two books a week seems sort of tame to me. I used to read 4 to 5 books a week other than school books or homework and maintain an A average. Now this was a long time ago but I never thought that was a lot. Of course there wasn’t much on TV, blogs hadn’t been invented – of course neither had the web or the idea of personal computers/cell phones. Maybe EW doesn’t waste a lot of time with TV or blogs or……..

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Sab: @Omnes Omnibus: try the “choose your own adventure” version–then it can end a bunch of different ways!

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    Jay says:


    Stick to Ulysses, then you have a good excuse for never finishing it.

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    tobie says:

    “The monopolist will make fewer monopoly profits — boohoo,” she said.

    Warren is not winning people to her cause with this statement, and I find that often to be the case with her. I know a lot of you are taken with her. I’ve had the opposite problem. The more I hear her, the more off-putting I find her, and a lot of her policy proposals strike me as being bold but not fully thought out. Her wealth tax idea is problematic. I don’t know enough about technology firms to judge her proposal but even from the discussion here I could already see there were some pretty big questions about what constitutes a platform. I liked her proposal for universal childcare but that’s one of her more modest ideas.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Even when I was still teaching I read 2or 3 books a week. It was my way of winding down. Now that I’m retired, I try to pace myself because it gets pretty expensive.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Can we still skip the cetacean anatomy lessons?

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    @Felanius Kootea: Saw that someone from central Europe lost 3 family members in that crash.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Amir Khalid: We read War and Peace, Anna Karenenia, and a bunch of his shorter works in a quarter in the Russian Lit class I took in college. That was my 2nd time with War and Peace. The prof said that Tolstoy wrote more versions of it before it was published than the number of times he (the prof) had read it, and he had taught the class for 6 years…

    Reading a lot, as we’ve seen in this thread, really isn’t that extraordinary – even for people who are very busy.


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    Sab says:

    @Jay: I read that in high school. I found it to be murky.

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    NotMax says:

    @Steve in the ATL – @Omnes Omnibus

    Leave us not ignore the infamous Paul Clifford. :)

    It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents, except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the house-tops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness.
    [blah, blah, blah]
    How many nothings swelled their author into a sage, ay, a saint, because they were strung together by the old hypocrite nun,—Gravity! THE END.

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    low-tech cyclist says:


    Yep. I’m going there. These little ladies need to go back and finish kindergarten before they lecture the actual grownups.

    AOC has managed to do what nobody else has done for a decade, and then some: not only has she almost singlehandedly elevated climate change to a top-tier issue, but she’s made the scale and urgency of the needed response a big part of the discussion too.

    No matter how many other rookie mistakes she makes, she’s a fucking hero just for that. Thank goodness she didn’t just sit quietly and respect her elders this past year.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Gelfling 545: public library plus Amazon Prime Reading (not even Unlimited!) keeps me occupied, and pushes me to consider titles and genres I might have otherwise ignored.

    @Gin & Tonic: sure!

    1. Call me Ishmael.
    2. Moby Dick sinks the Pequod; only Ishmael survives.

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    Jay says:


    It’s a proposal. Everybody knows that Big Tech from the Book of Faces to Amazon need to be broken up and regulated, as they are toxic to Democracy.

    Once the proposal is part of the platform, and legislative policy, then the “wonks” can get to work figuring out the details.

    That’s what most of the House and Senate Commitees are for and a whack of Cabinet and Department resources.

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    J R in WV says:


    This little lady needs to go back and finish kindergarten before they lecture the actual grownups. Anti-Muslim racist, anti-progressive, eemom, maybe you should be on Fucker Carlson’s web site instead of Balloon-Juice?

    Back in the Pie Safe, bitch!

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    Steve in the ATL says:


    It was a dark and stormy night

    Pretty sure that line was written by Charles Schulz

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    Jay says:

    @low-tech cyclist:


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    Jay says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Nope, he plagerized it from famous WWI Ace Snoopy.

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    Jay says:

    @J R in WV:

    Shit stirring Likuidnicks gotta shit stir.


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    NotMax says:

    @Steve in the ATL

    Summer camp where I worked for many a year would hold a non-denominational equivalent of a Quaker meeting out in the forest every other week (the original owners were still in residence, the wife was a Quaker). One of the stories she’d stand up and tell every year began thusly:

    It was a hot and sultry day when the stagecoach rolled into town.

    “It was a hot and sultry day” became a phrase of amusement amongst the staff as much as the dark and stormy phrase night does among the literati,.

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    VividBlueDotty says:

    Long-time lurker. Probably shouldn’t have chosen this topic to make a rare comment, but I’m prompted to insert some apparently little-known facts.

    It takes a slightly-above-average reader about 5-6 hours to read a 300-page book. Exceptional readers probably average 4. Ten to fiteen hours a week is not going to max out the leisure time of an empty nester, even one with a demanding job. I don’t know if or how she commutes, but if she does and reads during the ride, she’s not even dipping into leisure time.

    That being said, those who are saying Warren didn’t exaggerate her heritage may have missed that she put Native American as her race on a 1986 form for the State Bar of Texas. IIRC someone dug that up and that’s what started the whole issue. I trust that she did it with honest intentions but a person of her intelligence had to have known it wasn’t accurate. I don’t think it should be a significant issue, but if she wins the Democratic nomination, you can bet it won’t go away.

    And THAT being said, I’m still a fan. I’m encouraged that she was warmly received at SXSW.

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    eemom says:

    @low-tech cyclist:

    I disagree that she deserves the credit for that.

    However, I do appreciate the reasonable, non-mouth foaming hysteric, response.

    /likudnick bitch

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    J R in WV says:


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    rikyrah says:

    @Felanius Kootea:
    Sorry about your loss 😢😢

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    eemom says:

    @J R in WV:

    Uh oh….looks like it’s time to get your Depends changed again, O Mighty Smiter Unto The Pie Filter.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Steve in the ATL:
    Yeah, that was pretty much all I retained from my one-day read.

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    sgrAstar says:

    @schrodingers_cat: just weighing in on Warren’s reading habits. Hate to break it to you, but reading 2 books a week just isn’t that many if you’re speedy. Especially if some of em are thrillers, police procedurals, etc. It’s not that hard to read a book a day.
    Committed Reader.

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    Jay says:


    Your chronology is wrong. The Texas State Bar form was the last in the “Native Ancestory” fauxrage. It also conveyed no benifit other than the Texas Bar Association could add +1 to it’s diversity statistics in the Native American column.

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    sgrAstar says:

    @Felanius Kootea: I’m really sorry about your friend. Boeing will be paying a lot of attention when the lawsuits start flying.

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    debbie says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I was out of work for 18 months and read non-stop. Three or four a week, fiction and nonfiction. The books I liked a lot, I remembered clearly. The others, not so much. Unfortunately, books I like a lot are rarer and rarer.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Felanius Kootea: That is awful, and I wish comfort to your colleague’s family and to you.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Felanius Kootea: I’m very sorry. It’s horrible that this tragedy smells like a preventable design flaw of some sort.

    Passengers from more than 30 countries were on the plane, including eight Americans.

    Of course our God-Emperor has seemingly not felt any need to comment on this tragedy. :-(

    Peace to you and everyone affected.

    Best wishes,

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    Aleta says:

    @Felanius Kootea: My sympathy to you and your colleagues.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Felanius Kootea: I’m so sorry.

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    Aleta says:

    @VividBlueDotty: not to mention sleeping less as people get older, or if someone has insomnia, how they use that time.

    Comparisons are odious…odorous…don’t make good arguments.

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    Aleta says:

    @Another Scott: I get disturbed when I hear stories of students who graduate with degrees in software engineering (and civil engineering) despite sloppy work.

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    Darkrose says:

    @Felanius Kootea: I’m so sorry to hear that. My condolences to you and your colleagues.

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    GxB says:

    @Sab: I have my moments.

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    polyorchnid octopunch says:

    I see eemom is being a likudnick bitch again. Surprise surprise surprise.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Felanius Kootea: Belatedly, my sympathies.

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    VividBlueDotty says:

    You’re right. It was her listing as an ethnic minority in a directory of law professors that the Boston Glove came out with in 2012. That’s why I qualified with IIRC – I knew I remembered this starting YEARS ago.

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    Chris Johnson says:


    Warren is not winning people to her cause with this statement

    Sure as fuck wins me. And a crapload of other Balloon Juice posters, and this is the LEAST likely place to hit paydirt with lines like that. I’m not sure where you’re hanging out, but kicking monopolists and rich entitled fuckers is electoral GOLD. Look at how well Starbucks Guy is doing in polls.

    The real question is ‘is it just big talk or legit?’. The last election was won by LYING about just such issues. Trump swore he was going to make all the rich fuckers bring all the jobs back etc etc, but he was straight up lying and plenty of us knew it. Unfortunately, the Electoral College was a thing.

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    I am sorry that I started this stupid debate. I am sure EW can read 2 books per week or per day if she wants. I don’t doubt her intellectual capacities at all. Or the pace of her reading. When I was a teen I used to devour books. In summer vacations I would at times read a book a day. I don’t know how much I retained reading at that pace, and age. Probably not much. My friends would call me a goat who eats leaves of a book instead of leaves of a tree.
    Coming back to Warren, I do think she has a tendency to humble brag. to show us how cool she is. That’s probably the origin story of the native American ancestry, Plus the whole HRC rigged the primaries statement, does not sit well with me. Speaking of substantive policies, I do like some of her regulatory ideas, but I don’t worship at her altar.

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    tobie says:

    @Jay: Warren is running for President. It’s important for her to think things through. The sweeping but sloppy ideas she’s throwing out there every week remind me of the sweeping and sloppy ideas Republicans have been proposing for years. Think of Paul Ryan or Newt Gingrich. She’s adopted their strategy.

    @Chris Johnson: She’s preaching to the converted and upping the ante but not winning anyone who wasn’t already on her side. I am stunned that she has decided to personalize every issue. A case in point is her statement on “monopolists” instead of “monopolies.” Why not take the time to explain the importance of antitrust laws, how they’ve been used in the past, why they are needed now, etc? That would be a way to win supporters. But she doesn’t want to build things, she wants to burn them.

    ETA: It could be that she thinks she has to personalize things because people can’t understand abstraction. Better to talk monopolists than antitrust. If so, that’s pure condescension on her part. Or faux populism.

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    tobie says:

    @polyorchnid octopunch: And you’re new here, as opposed to eemom, who has been here for many years, so I’ll assume you’re a plant sent to BJ to stir up shit.

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    TerryC says:

    @Another Scott: yeah, it can be done. Some of us read really, really fast, like a 300 page novel in an hour. Can’t help it. It’s an innate skill.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Jesus, before you spout off that someone’s “new here” and probably a troll, maybe you could take 30 seconds and check yourself. Google: polyorchnid

    and you’ll see that they have comments going back (at least) to 2012.

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