Friday Evening Open Thread: Fox News, Enemy of Democracy

Given First Amendment protections, Fox News can do pretty much what it wants on the air. It can shrug at Hannity’s excesses. It can allow Tucker Carlson’s misleading rants on immigrants and crime. It can constantly undermine special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Trump.

But for mainstream journalists to suggest that there be no consequences or even recognition is willfully blind — and smacks of an unseemly inside-the-Beltway solidarity.

What Fox News has become is destructive. To state the obvious: Democracy, if it’s going to function, needs to be based on a shared set of facts, and the news media’s role is to seek out and deliver those facts…

… Fox News can continue to function as something close to Trump TV. It can go on spreading disinformation.

But everyone ought to see it for what it is: Not a normal news organization with inevitable screw-ups, flaws and commercial interests, which sometimes fail to serve the public interest.

But a shameless propaganda outfit, which makes billions of dollars a year as it chips away at the core democratic values we ought to hold dear: truth, accountability and the rule of law…

Did someone say ‘Tucker Carlson’?

23 replies
  1. 1
    debbie says:

    The only defense is one of vast, open mockery.

  2. 2
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    If you didn’t hear Terry Gross’ interview with Jane Mayer yesterday, you owe it to yourself to listen.

    ETA: link

    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/07/701189433/jane-mayer-on-the-fox-news-white-house

  3. 3
    debbie says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    It was awesome! I seriously believe Jane ranks up there as one of the best reporters in forever.

  4. 4
    Millard Filmore says:

    Since the Equal Time rule is dead, and not applicable, how about another approach. Claiming to be a doctor or nurse without proper credentials is prohibited. In some states companies cannot have the word “engineer” or engineering” in their name without having actual credentialed engineers on hand or in management. The same can be applied to “news” organizations. In order to have the word “news” in their name, some large percent of their programming must be verifiable news.

    There is no censorship, Fox can keep doing what they are doing now. They cannot fraudulently claim to be a NEWS company and must change their name.

  5. 5
    debbie says:

    @Millard Filmore:

    Fox did drop “fair and balanced”…

  6. 6
    chopper says:

    Carlson presidential run

    god, it’s like someone pinched my nose and puked in my mouth.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @debbie:

    The only defense is one of vast, open mockery.

    Works on offense too.

  8. 8
    rikyrah says:

    @debbie:
    She really is. She is wonderful 👏👏

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    Ohio Dad says:

    The threat to “open up” the libel laws for politicians may come to backfire where Faux News is concerned.

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    Anonymous At Work says:

    Does the WaPo know that taking Fox seriously would actually mean listening to…gasp…liberals??!!?!
    Or are we saving that shock for later?

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    SFAW says:

    But a shameless propaganda outfit, which makes billions of dollars a year as it chips away at the core democratic values we ought to hold dear

    Eto pravda

    NB: Gin & Tonic or zhena gogolia, please to correct my Russkiy as necessary, since my “command” (so to speak) of the language is limited to “da,” “nyet,” and “Ein Bier, bitte.”

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    debbie says:

    JFC:

    Trump signs Bibles during Alabama disaster visit

    President Trump on Friday signed Bibles for people affected by a string of deadly storms that ripped through Alabama.

    The president made the gesture while visiting a Baptist church in Opelika, Ala., that is serving as a disaster relief center.

    Local volunteer Ada Ingram told reporters that Trump signed several hats and Bibles, including one for a 12-year-old boy, an action which drew applause from people who came to see Trump.

  13. 13
    chris says:

    @debbie:

    You guys… He…he signed *the covers* pic.twitter.com/bLQzVN9vcB— Sarah Cooper (@sarahcpr) 8 March 2019

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    Chyron HR says:

    @debbie:

    Yes, but keep in mind that these noble members of the proletariat would have voted for Bernie instead if he’d been on the ballot.

  15. 15
    debbie says:

    @chris:

    It’s still blasphemy.

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    debbie says:

    I was just listening to BBC headlines. They’re saying Shine left because of friction with Trump. Maybe at some point Fox will come to regret their “partnership” with Trump.

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    chris says:

    @debbie: There was ajoke about him finally cracking a bible. He didn’t, he just put his name in the author’s place.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @debbie:

    It’s still blasphemy.

    Amen, sister. First commandment with a fucking bullet.

  19. 19
    lollipopguild says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: The Ten Commandments do not apply to the gop and never have. Rules, laws, taxes and Commandments are for the little people and all those other people.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    It’s still blasphemy.

    Amen, sister. First commandment with a fucking bullet.

    Martin won a thread this afternoon with this: Jealous. Having a book signed by the author always increases its value considerably.
    You might have won though.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @chris: He was afraid that if he opened one, it’d burst into flames.

  22. 22
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    My nym. Over and over and over again.

    Wipe them out. All of them.

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    wenchacha says:

    It would be really funny to learn that Identity Evropa is sock puppetry by Tucker. A girl can dream.

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