GOP Self-Own Open Thread: Repubs Are Officially Anti-Anti-Hate

“Present”?!? Pigmuck King’s a godsdamned gift!

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    zhena gogolia says:


    That thread is golden.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Zeddy seems to be conflating Steve King and Peter King.

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    rikyrah says:

    Raw Story (@RawStory) Tweeted:
    Kushner kept US officials ‘in the dark’ during Middle East trip — and the Saudi government oversaw his security: report

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @lamh36: So what is your opinion of Diamond and Silk? They seem like sad opportunists to me.

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    Who are the 23 for hate?

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @schrodingers_cat: All Rethugs. Steve King voted present.

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    lamh36 says:

    @zhena gogolia: someone said, it may be the first incident of getting LAUGHED off of twitter…


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    debbie says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    It’s always creepy when someone refers to himself in the third person

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Not allowed to edit my own damned comment, but I retract it. Read Zeddy too quickly and carelessly. That’ll larn me (well, it should, but it probably won’t).

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    lamh36 says:

    Follow Follow @KatyTurNBC
    Pentagon may tap military pay, pensions for border wall

    If the Obama admin even DARED to think about doing this…

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I’m getting a 404 on your link.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    There are two Jewish Republican members of Congress. One of them, that noted genius Lee Zeldin, just voted against a resolution condemning anti-Semitism and other forms of hatred and bigotry.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: The roll in the screenshot says King (NY)

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    Glass House, please meet rock…

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    lamh36 says:

    Pentagon may tap military pay, pensions for border wall

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    lamh36 says:

    5m5 minutes ago
    Michael Cohen just sued the Trump Organization over unpaid legal fees

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    When the Democrats expanded the resolution to condemn all hate speech covering anti-Semitism and anti-Muslim rage, they caught the Republicans off-guard. This turned from “punishing a rookie Muslim Congresswoman for her anti-AIPAC stance” into a “watch Republicans refuse to stand against Hate Speech” min-scandal.

    By the way, have they sentenced Manafort yet?

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    B.B.A. says:

    Support for Israel is inherently Islamophobic. Discuss.

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    Jay says:

    It’s only a ReThuglican self own if the MSM picks it up and beats it as hard as Butter Emailz,

    which they won’t.

    For ReThuglican voters, overt racism is a feature, not a bug.

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    lamh36 says:

    @A Ghost To Most: that’s the most PC thing to say. I have my own words for those two ladies, but I won’t share them in mixed company.

    I’ll just say they def represent one of my granny’s fav phrase: “all my skinfolk ain’t my kinfolk” and leave it at that

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    Considering trump just froze military pay boosts during HIS Shutdown, taking more money from the troops sounds like a GREAT IDEA (/sarcasm).

    Seriously, trump is pissing on our nation’s military anymore. At some point they are just going to walk off their stations in protest, a mutiny on a scale this world hasn’t seen since the Spithead uprising for the 1797 British Navy.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @lamh36: The III%’ers. and the militias plus the blue-line-in the flag nuts would freak. Sean Hannity would look like he is on the last stages of Ebola, with blood coming out is every orifice. I would pay to hear Michael Savage or Alex Jones.

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    oatler. says:

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend is my enemy isxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    randy khan says:

    Nice bit of jujitsu by Speaker Pelosi to get 23 Republicans to vote against it.

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    You can support Israel as a nation with a right to exist, and you can support Muslim nations co-existing peacefully with themselves and other nations including Israel. it’s called the “Let’s Stop Killing Each Other” Doctrine.

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    CatFacts says:

    And Pelosi holds her caucus together once again.

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    @A Ghost To Most:

    that King voted “Present” shows an incredible amount of self-awareness on his part of the trap the GOP was walking into.

    The 23 who voted NO out of a knee-jerk anti-Dem mindset or sociopathic world-view have got a lot of explaining to do.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    Judge Ellis says that Manafort’s sentencing recommendation was ‘excessive’. WTF?

    Ellis also said that Manafort “lived an otherwise blameless life,” and he was a “good friend and generous person to others.” What horseshit!

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    lamh36 says:

    Follow Follow @ShimonPro
    Judge TS Ellis before giving Manafort his sentence noted he “lived an otherwise blameless life,” was a good friend and generous person to others. That doesn’t erase his crimes however Ellis said.

    5:45 PM – 7 Mar 2019


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    Bobby Thomson says:

    Otherwise blameless life my Mobutu-hating ass.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: Judge Ellis says that Manafort’s sentencing recommendation was ‘excessive’. WTF?

    Ellis also said that Manafort “lived an otherwise blameless life,” and he was a “good friend and generous person to others.” What horseshit!

    I’m guessing there’s a well-worn copy of The Fountainhead or That Other One She Wrote on the judge’s shelves

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    JaySinWA says:

    Okay who is Zeddy referring to with the

    the charged criminal defendant who endorsed extrajudicial killings,

    Is he conflating Congressman Duncan with Duncan Hunter? Or have I missed something?

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    VeniceRiley says:

    47 months for Manafort? This is bullshit!

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    lamh36 says:

    47 months…that’s fuq’n it…

    As Deray says “watch whiteness work”

    ETA: Next up DC which could add another 10 years..we’ll see

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    ‘Faith and prayer’ got Manafort through this difficult time, and he also said “Humiliated and shamed would be a gross understatement.”

    According to court observers, Manafort showed little or no remorse for his crimes as he spoke for about four minutes..

    Can we please hang this fucker, Judge?

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    Gin & Tonic says:


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    geg6 says:

    He didn’t get shit. That fucking piece of shit only gave him four fucking years. That fucking judge said he had lived an otherwise blameless life. Mother fucking fascist judge.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @VeniceRiley: multiple audible gasps of incredulity from the MSNBC panel (I’m listening not watching so I can’t say who exactly)

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    Baud says:

    It’s not like Manfort smoked weed.

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    ruemara says:

    What in the fuck with a 4 YEAR SENTENCE?!

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    Forty-seven months sounds a lot more impressive than 3.9 years. I guess.

    That’s all you get for selling out your country.

    Fuck this judge and fuck Manafort.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    47 months? That’s it?

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    CarolDuhart2 says:

    Another sentencing next week, plus his state charges as well. This isn’t over.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Baud: It’s not like Manfort smoked weed.

    I imagine the judge’s sentencing history is going to get a lot of scrutiny, and he may not like that.

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    Baud says:

    He’ll still be young enough when he gets out to get his own show on cable news.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    The bar for removing Article III judges is and should be almost insurmountable.

    Ellis fucking sucks though. What a dipshit. Reagan appointees, amirite?

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: tough titties.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @lamh36: How is Fox gonna wrangle that? That may cause an explosion from retired veterans.

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    MJS says:

    Frankly, I wouldn’t have been surprised by time served and parole. This judge has been looking for any opportunity to help Manafort. Also, aren’t there other charges he can be retried on?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Ellis also said that Manafort “lived an otherwise blameless life,” and he was a “good friend and generous person to others.” What horseshit!

    Horseshit indeed! Especially when you consider that he foisted VP Mike Pence on us.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Baud: Thank you for watching, America, I’m Sean Hannity, stay tuned for Gout, Wheezing and Influence Peddling, with our own Paul Manafort! Next on Fox!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    even fucking Nixon gets it!

    Richard M. Nixon @ dick_nixon
    My God, Martha Stewart got a year for trading on a golf course stock tip …

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @VeniceRiley: It is called White Male Privilege. If Manafort was a POC, 25 years in solitary and sent to Gitmo.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @CarolDuhart2: Sentencing next week is two charges of illegal lobbying with (supposedly) a 5-year min. Betcha he gets that as concurrent.

    I’m going to have a drink and try to forget this bullshit.

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    JaySinWA says:

    @A Ghost To Most: They will tell them they will just have to soldier on. We all gotta sacrifice for a walled future.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    That sucks, but given the judge’s attitude towards the prosecution, perhaps not surprising

    Next week should be better.

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    dr. bloor says:

    @MJS: He still has a date in DC that he is certainly not looking forward to.

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    lamh36 says:

    38s38 seconds ago
    Crystal Mason, a Black woman in Texas, just started serving a sentence of five years for casting an illegal ballot because she didn’t know her felony made her ineligible.

    Paul Manafort will finish his sentence before Crystal Mason.

    Watch whiteness work.

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    lamh36 says:

    That fuq’n Judge Ellis smh…passing the damn buck to DC…so if DC does less…then Ellis like …what “oh well”…smh


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    dr. luba says:


    That fucking judge said he had lived an otherwise blameless life.

    Which is why his daughters admire him so (/sarc):

    In a series of texts reviewed by Business Insider that appear to have been sent by Andrea to her sister, Jessica, in March 2015, Andrea said their father had “no moral or legal compass.”

    “Don’t fool yourself,” Andrea wrote to her sister, according to the texts. “That money we have is blood money.”

    “You know he has killed people in Ukraine? Knowingly,” she continued, according to the reviewed texts. “As a tactic to outrage the world and get focus on Ukraine. Remember when there were all those deaths taking place. A while back. About a year ago. Revolts and what not. Do you know whose strategy that was to cause that, to send those people out and get them slaughtered.”

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    jl says:

    @lamh36: From what I’ve read so far, benefits and pay for the actual troops seem to be main target, which is sick. I read an article recently that the Trumpsters and brass were eyeing construction and maintenance funds for housing as a source of funds. Housing for the troops is already starved, and because of that, substandard.

    Disgusting source of funds for a disgusting campaign stunt, that even Trump had the sense to understand was a stupid idea when it was first suggested to him by a couple of his flunkies as a way to get some cheers out of his rally crowds.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    PresidentialHarassHat @ Popehat
    47 months for Manafort before Judge Ellis. That’s about 40% of what I guessed, 120 months. It’s a very substantial departure (although almost certainly a legal sentence) from the guidelines of 19-24 years.
    /2 A departure from 19 years to under 4 years is very dramatic. It’s the kind of departure defense lawyers dream of. It’s the kind of departure that’s FAR more likely to be enjoyed by the sort of person who commits crimes with banks and wires than drugs or guns.
    /3 It’s pretty surprisingly lenient (though, in context, longer than average for white collar crime). Judge Jackson comes next. She can sentence up to 10, and can make it concurrent or consecutive. This changes my assessment of what she’ll do. I suspect she’ll max him. /end

    “almost certainly legal” is an interesting caveat but almost certainly academic
    (italics mine)

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    He comes up before Amy Jacksonville Bergman Nextel week. Let’s hope she’s a little more attuned to reality (although given the oh-so-delicate taps on the wrist she’s given Roger Stone recently, I’m not particularly sanguine).

    ETA: JFC, AutoCorrect! Not even going to try to change that mess.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @JaySinWA: Some retirees may eat that shit up, but I think many will raise holy hell.

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    At some point they are just going to walk off their stations in protest, a mutiny on a scale this world hasn’t seen since the Spithead uprising for the 1797 British Navy.

    I think some of the mutinies during WWI- what John Keegan described as military strikes- would classify as substantially larger.

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    geg6 says:


    I just can’t even with this. I want to kill someone right now.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @lamh36: “Look, other than the decades-spanning criminal escapades we just convicted him on and that he lied about repeatedly, he’s lived a blameless and upstanding life!”

    What does it take to get a rich white guy the prison term he actually deserves? Yeesh.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @CarolDuhart2: Yeah. That’s the only thing that even makes this vaguely bearable. Wow.

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    JaySinWA says:

    @A Ghost To Most: I doubt the hell raisers will get much FOX airtime. If @Roger Moore: and Wartenberg walk offs of active duty personnel happens FOX might be in a reporting pickle.

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    Hmph. So, if you’re LGBTQ I guess you’re now officially “othered”.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I want to kill someone right now.

    Don’t even bother trying. Your amazing, awesome niece would probably just save his life or something.

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    J R in WV says:

    Judge Ellis is a despicable old white bigot Republican man who should be impeached and lose his pension for this shit.

    Try living on Social Security in your current neighborhood, jackass!

    Although in our current reality he would be hired by Faux News as a consultant for the big bucks in return for his good job helping the Fascist Party out of a tight spot!


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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @B.B.A.: @PaulWartenberg: Can we not do this shit again?

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    Dr. Ronnie James, D.O. says:

    So, let’s call these 24 the Hate Caucus, and shame anyone who associates with them.

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