Monday Morning Open Thread: Selma Sunday

Matt Viser, at the Washington Post:

Several Democratic presidential hopefuls came here to a resonant remembrance of one of the bloodiest moments of the civil rights movement on Sunday, with Sen. Cory Booker talking emotionally about being a descendant of slaves and others urging a renewed defense of voting rights…

Booker hinted at the words of Martin Luther King Jr. to draw attention to what he depicted as a resurgence of racial animosity.

“The dream is under attack. The dreamers are in danger,” Booker said. “And we need each other more than we realize in this country.”

Selma has become an annual pilgrimage site for Democratic politicians, culminating with a walk across the Edmund Pettus Bridge, where on March 7, 1965, marchers advocating for voting rights were attacked by police in a day that has become known as Bloody Sunday. The Voting Rights Act was signed the same year. This year, the events marking one of the most searing moments of the civil rights movement took place over four days, including a Jubilee Golf Tournament on Friday and a “battle of the bands” on Saturday.

The main event, Sunday’s march across the bridge with linked arms, call-and-response, and gospel songs, was nearly derailed by thunderstorms. But the weather cleared enough for thousands to make the walk.

A trio of potential presidential candidates — Sanders of Vermont and Booker of New Jersey, who have announced their campaigns, and Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio, who is considering a bid — were here along with Clinton during the day’s events…

Sunday’s events provided a forum for the belief among many African American leaders that the GOP has been launching a renewed fight against voting rights, with such measures as voter ID laws and the curtailment of early voting.

“Make no mistake: We are living through a full-fledged crisis in our democracy,” Clinton said. “There may not be, thank God, tanks in the streets. But what’s happening goes to the heart of who we are as a nation.”…

Brown, who told reporters that he will decide on a presidential bid by the end of March, also circulated among the mostly African American attendees, asking about their lives.

Asked how he could compete in a diverse field of candidates, and with an increasingly diverse electorate, Brown said he would let his record speak for itself.

“If I run, I’ll be the only Democrat on that stage who voted against the Iraq War. I’ll be the only Democrat on that stage who supported marriage equality 20 years ago. I’ll be the only person on that stage who has a longtime F from the NRA,” Brown said. He pointed to his face. “I can change a lot of things, but I can’t change this part of me, right?”

I don’t think Sherrod Brown will end up as our Democratic nominee (although plenty of people on twitter have suggested he’d be a great vp for Kamala Harris), but I am very interested in seeing what he’ll be saying over the next few months!






104 replies
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    JGabriel says:

    Anne Laurie @ Top:

    I don’t think Sherrod Brown will end up as our Democratic nominee (although plenty of people on twitter have suggested he’d be a great vp for Kamala Harris), but I am very interested in seeing what he’ll be saying over the next few months!

    Maybe, but I doubt Harris, or any nominee, would pick Brown for VP. With such a tight margin in the Senate, I don’t think any Democratic president would pick a Senator from a swingy state like Ohio to be their VP.

    That said, I like Brown and he’s still in my top tier, along with (in non-committal alphabetical order) Gillibrand, Harris, and Warren.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    What a time to live in when one major political party does everything in its power to prevent huge swaths of citizens from voting. And of course they’ve elected a President with authoritarian tendencies. Sigh.

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    hells littlest angel says:

    I like Sherrod Brown a lot. I especially like him a lot in the Senate.

    Since it’s way too early to speculate about anything, I like to speculate about Kamala Harris choosing a woman as her running mate. Whaddaya think — too outlandish?

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😀😀😀

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    rikyrah says:

    @Patricia Kayden:
    Traitors ALL 😡😡😡

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    0 degrees. Blech.

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    ola azul says:

    @hells littlest angel:

    Long’s it ain’t Tulsi, am totally down with double-double-X chromosomal representation at the top o’ the tix.

    (Makes me laugh, people’s childish reactionary fears on this kinda thing. Not saying that’s you, course, just that so many folks — and not just the misogynist incel douches from whom a double-fem ticket would naturally excite this sort of hyperventilating bedwetting existential ragegasm — generally are so reflexively infantile and risk-averse about this sorta thing. What, like two women might be some kinda oooh-scaaaary! governmental disaster like, you know, we’re actually pastey-white-male-privilege-governing-by-freeper-comment-section suffering under?)

    Some peeps may reach adulthood, but they never do grow the fuck up to say nothing of wake the fuck up.

    Personally, I like the contrast (should Twitler survive his manifold crimes to run in 2020) of two women slaying the bloated-orange-ass-is-a-dragon and Mother’s Obedient Boy.

    I look at it this way: If two strong competent women cannot beat Trump/Pence in 2020, it sez more about us and the corrupt thoroughgoing rot that plagues this country than it does about the women running, and it prolly means this country prolly can’t be saved.

    Go for it, sez I.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Republican Senator John Kennedy had good news regarding special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russian election interference and links between Trump aides and Moscow. No one in the Trump administration, he said, had been found to be “secretly working for the United States”

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    NotMax says:

    Boxing day on TCM. Not a genre I normally gravitate toward but will point out that the gem of the lot being aired today is The Set-up, to be shown at 1:30 p.m. Eastern. Tightly wound noir tale, using ‘real time narrative’ (years before High Noon employed the same device) to have everything take place in a little over an hour, the same as the film’s running time. Keep your eyes peeled for the clocks, if you can take them off the charismatic Robert Ryan long enough to do so.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Given what has already come out, I think we all kind of doubt that. Besides, Mueller’s people don’t leak. How does Kennedy know?

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    ola azul says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Cuz he’s not working on behalf of the United States either?

    Q.E.D.!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Amir Khalid: Methinks you misread the joke. He said no one in the trump admin has been found to be “secretly working for the United States

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    ola azul says:

    The jokes, they right themselves!

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    I, um, knew that, I was just playing along.

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    MagdaInBlack says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Minus 18.
    Yik.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Amir Khalid: WHOOOOOSHH!!! Right over my head.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    The Hanoi summit was an abject failure becauauauauause…. DEMs were mean to trump that day.

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    JPL says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Since trump has access to information about the investigation, I hope that the level of craziness in the weekend tweets indicate that he is concerned about his future. The only other explanation is that
    he is batshit insane.

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    satby says:

    @JPL: Both. Both works here.

    @rikyrah: Good morning rikyrah 🙋

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    danielx says:

    NOT a good start to the day when the spousal unit and I are both awakened by the crash of something breaking downstairs, sit up and say simultaneously “what….was that?”. I was betting on a vase of roses, but no – turned out to be a small bowl of M&Ms, knocked on the floor along with a box of Girl Scout cookies.

    Yes, cats can look guilty.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Defiant women and dying children: Isis’ desert legacy

    At al-Hawl, an overwhelmed displacement camp for the wives and children of Islamic State fighters, women in niqabs scream at each other. Small children and babies lie unattended on the muddy ground: one boy, no more than two years old, is clearly in a feverish sleep.

    Children with no shoes walk on the dirty nappies and other rubbish that litters the area. The smell of human waste is overpowering. As Isis makes its last stand in Syria’s eastern desert, this is the group’s legacy.

    The women who joined Isis are not sympathetic refugee characters, and as the fight to destroy the “caliphate” nears its end in the town of Baghuz, those leaving have become increasingly defiant. In recent days, many woman said they only left because the group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, ordered them to do so to make it easier for the men to fight.
    …………………………
    As tens of thousands of women and children continue to pour out of the tiny area still under Isis’ control, local authorities say they have reached a breaking point and the families of the caliphate – around 43,000 new arrivals in al-Hawl alone – are at the centre of a humanitarian crisis.

    Most of those suffering here are children. The UN and International Rescue Committee say at least 80 people, two thirds of them under the age of one, have died since December, when the camp began to see a huge influx of those fleeing the violence.

    About 2,000 people are sleeping outdoors in the screening area this week despite the rain and winter temperatures as the camp’s management struggles to process new arrivals.

    “This is an extremely vulnerable population,” said Paul Donohoe, an IRC spokesperson. “They’ve been without medical care and adequate food and water in some cases for weeks, which is contributing to why so many are dying on arrival. There’s also an astonishing number of pregnant women. Some have been giving birth on the trucks that bring them to Hawl.”

    The chaos is evident. In al-Hawl’s transit area, children wander around calling for their parents, some from central Asia and Africa. A Yazidi boy is plucked from the mayhem and taken to the camp’s office. He says he is from Sinjar in Iraq but he doesn’t know who brought him to al-Hawl or where his family is.
    ………………………….
    The lack of preparation for what comes after Isis is shocking,” said Nadim Houry, the director of Human Rights Watch’s terrorism and counterterrorism programme.

    “In almost all the areas retaken from Isis, there is not adequate resources to rebuild or protect people on the ground. It is extremely worrying for these children who haven’t gone to school in the caliphate. They are very vulnerable and without a real education and support, radicalisation is going to continue to be a problem.”

    Hmmmmmm… “The lack of preparation for what comes after…” Where have I heard those words before?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @danielx: Let me guess, your cat’s name is Grace?

    eta missing r

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    danielx says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    That would be Natasha in this case, the tuxedo cat.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @danielx: Sweet. Is her pal Boris?

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    CliosFanboy says:

    @ola azul: In Soviet Russia, jokes write YOU!

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    debbie says:

    “We aren’t going to win every fight.” But we have to fight every fight as if it’s our very last chance at survival.

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    japa21 says:

    So I am reading that because she called out the gutting of the Voting Right Act, Clinton is whining and blaming her loss on the Supreme Court. What a bunch of hogwash.

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    debbie says:

    @danielx:

    Is chocolate bad for cats like it is for dogs?

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    Sab says:

    @danielx: Of course it would be the tuxedo cat.

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    @Quinerly: That article is horrifying, Even though I knew most of it before, seeing it all laid out like that is depressing.

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

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    Baud says:

    “I can change a lot of things, but I can’t change this part of me, right?”

    Please tell me there’s video of him pointing to his dick when he said this.

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    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    Sure, if that’s where his ego is.

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    JPL says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: @Quinerly: I just finished the article and agree with Dorothy. How do we get the people who are being used and brain washed by Fox to read it.

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    Baud says:

    @debbie:

    That’s where every male ego is.

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    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    Good point, sir.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Quinerly: Read that earlier this morning and was considering putting up a post on it. Mayer is a terrific reporter. Fun fact about her that I recently discovered on Twitter: decades ago, when she was on assignment somewhere, Mayer’s then-boyfriend dumped her for wingnut Fox bot LAURA INGRAHAM, who moved into the house Mayer used to share with the boyfriend. The two refused to return Mayer’s dog, so Mayer waited until they weren’t home and squeezed through the pet door to retrieve her dog.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: IIRC, it was Sherrod Brown who said that and he was pointing to his face in response to a question about how he can relate to an ever more diversifying DEM party

    Yep:

    “If I run, I’ll be the only Democrat on that stage who voted against the Iraq War. I’ll be the only Democrat on that stage who supported marriage equality 20 years ago. I’ll be the only person on that stage who has a longtime F from the NRA,” Brown said. He pointed to his face. “I can change a lot of things, but I can’t change this part of me, right?”

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    Baud says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Missed opportunity to generate buzz.

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    Sab says:

    So we had our entire slate of presidential hopefuls in a tornado watch/warning zone for all of yesterday? It’s important to remember the Selma march, but yikes.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: Seeing as men think with one head but the other does all our talking he could have just put the mic to his dick and cut out the middleman.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Sab: 23 dead and counting, the youngest was 6 iirc.

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    Baud says:

    Eric Holder says he will not run for president in 2020

    The fact that he doesn’t want to run makes me want to vote for him.

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    satby says:

    Sherrod Brown doesn’t impress me the way several other candidates in this primary do, so I hope he doesn’t run. The field is getting too crowded anyway, even immediately discounting Wilmer and Gabbard as contenders, because for me they aren’t.

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    @Baud: No kidding.It makes me deeply grateful, and I like Eric Holder.

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    Baud says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Damn, that’s a lot for a storm.

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    Baud says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: He’s doing the Lord’s work fighting gerrymandering and voter suppression for the Dems.

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    satby says:

    @Sab: should they all avoid California because there might be an earthquake?

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    sherparick1 says:

    @japa21: WTF??? Actually, vote suppression did hurt her in Wisconsin and Michigan. But I think she was just trying to make the point that Republicans are launching a full scale attack on the rights of all POC and women. Bernie bros wonder why so many Democrats hate their guy, and the reason is shit like this (also, notice again Bernie’s tone deafness with the Black vote in the South by him not showing up at this event). A

    On a completely different topic, if we want to blame the “Establishment Democratic” Party for something substantial, the complete neglect, and lack of criticism of Democratic senators running for Presidents in states with Republican Governors, or potential senators in Red/Purple states running for President (looking at you Beto), you would think they were running a Scott McConnell protective society. Warren, Sanders, and Brown all represent states with Republican Governors. If they are on the ticket and win, their replacement will be a Republican. If they take a cabinet job, their replacement will be a Republican. If there is a special election, particularly in Brown’s case, the replacement has a substantial chance of being a Republican. A question that could be asked is whether McConnell would allow a Republican Senate to approve any Democratic President nominees to fill the office’s of his administration, particularly the State Department, EPA, Justice, or HHS. Regarding judicial nominations, you can ferggitaboutit. Bernie does not even want to abolish the filibuster! All these men and women should be asked what they think they can get done with a Republican Senate run by Scott McConnell. Its a question that the political journalists of the theater criticism style of journalism never ask.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: Video.

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    Baud says:

    @sherparick1:

    The article says he was there.

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    Mr DAW just sent me a link to a NYT opinion piece about Trump and RICO in SDNY which I am not going to read. I’m sick of speculation. Let me know when someone is charged.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @sherparick1:

    (also, notice again Bernie’s tone deafness with the Black vote in the South by him not showing up at this event).

    Which event are you referring to? He was in Selma.

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    @Baud: Cripes. Who are all these delusional people?

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    Betty says:

    @sherparick1: It has been explained to me that the Governor of Massachusetts does not pick the replacement. They hold a new election.

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    satby says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Starting to think that most of them are using running to build war chests for something else.
    Or, in Wilmer’s case, because without a campaign his sweet, sweet grifting drops and the bank account goes dry.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: That’s where I am these days. Don’t wanna hear about until there’s a damned perp walk.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Betty Cracker: Jane Mayer is my new spirit animal. Thanks for that little tidbit. (I think Laura I. also dated Keith Olbermann at on point. He also dated Katy Turr awhile ago when she was very, young)

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    plato says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Yup, with all the slaps gentle taps in the wrist for all the traitorous thuggish perps so far, except may be manafort who blew his chance with the judge’s generosity, I have been losing hope steadily.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    It appears that even FOX has limits: After Fiery Hamburger Speech At CPAC, Fox News Parts Ways With Seb Gorka Who’da thunk it?

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Betty: If I recall correctly, the governor does pick a very short-term replacement, but there’s a special election that happens pretty quickly (not even the next November). Of course, these oddly scheduled special elections can be treacherous things, because turnout is low absent extraordinary efforts. We got Senator Scott Brown when he beat Martha Coakley in the special election in early 2010. Warren beat him in the regular general election in 2012.

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    rikyrah says:

    So, Bernie never voted UNTIL IT WAS TIME TO VOTE FOR HIMSELF?!😡😡😡

    https://twitter.com/ThomboyD/status/1102337729222737920

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    MomSense says:

    It is snowing here. School is canceled. I have to try to get to work but my street hasn’t been plowed yet so if I don’t get out soon, they will plow all that snow up at the end of my driveway.

    I can barely stand to watch Hillary speak. It still breaks my heart that she is not our president. She would have been a damn fucking great president. Guess what I’d vote for her again if I could.

    I don’t want to talk about Wilmer ever again and I resent that we have to. He is not fit to be president as evidenced by his complete lack of grace and diplomacy at the Selma event. We need leaders who know how to work with others and that’s something he has never been able to do.

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    JR says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: They can only endure so much embarrassment

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    rikyrah says:

    @MomSense:
    I feel everything you just wrote👏👏👏

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    Luthe says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Do we know if Popehat has read it?

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    Is it just me or does it look like T’s checking out Kristjen (sp?) Neilsen’s ass.

    He is such a gross human and a disgusting human being.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Looking at the 2020 Senate races, I think we’re gonna need some luck in addition to really good candidates to win back the Senate.

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    MattF says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Fiery hamburger sounds tasty!

    More seriously, Gorka appears to have no positive qualities. Less than zero.

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    plato says:

    Great tweets to that scummy cowardly pos, dershoshitz.

    You are a soulless, myopic scrotelick. Sue me. https://t.co/NlxlwQmlb2— David Simon (@AoDespair) March 3, 2019

    You've said that before and you chickened out. We all know what discovery would mean for you😂😂😂😂btw when you nude sunbathe on the beach, do you do it when underage girls are around?— Cheri Jacobus (@CheriJacobus) March 2, 2019

    Does a screen shot count? pic.twitter.com/w0gd6hBWZq— Claude Taylor (@TrueFactsStated) March 2, 2019

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    Immanentize says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I agree. It is going to be close, very close. Unless our top of the ticket efforts really kick into high gear to add a little umph to the whole project. In that case, we might even keep Doug Jones.

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    germy says:

    For those at @CPAC worried about return of communism, remember Trump said he fell in love with the Chairman of the communist WORKERS' Party of Korea & has never said a mean word about the KGB officer ruling Russia who laments the collapse the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics.— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) March 3, 2019

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    Sunday morning, child molester enabler, Jim Jordan tweeted this:

    C’mon @RepJerryNadler—at least pretend to be serious about fact finding.

    Nadler feeling the heat big time. Jumps to Tom $teyer’s conclusion—impeaching our President—before first document request.

    What a Kangaroo court.

    I’m pretty $ure thi$ i$ anti$emati$im.

    And 10:30 a.m., Jim? Shouldn’t you be in church?

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    Brachiator says:

    On Brown

    “If I run, I’ll be the only Democrat on that stage who voted against the Iraq War. I’ll be the only Democrat on that stage who supported marriage equality 20 years ago. I’ll be the only person on that stage who has a longtime F from the NRA,” Brown said. He pointed to his face. “I can change a lot of things, but I can’t change this part of me, right?”

    I really don’t care about purity declarations. It’s nice, but meaningless. Guess it works with some voters.

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    Kay says:

    @plato:

    I think he scares people by threatening to sue them. One of Americas “constitutional scholars” hides his sleaziness by threatening people to remain silent. Good Christ.

    Everyone talks about Trump voters but there’s an enormous amount of rot in our elite ranks. They’re disgusting people. Venal, cynical, think they are entitled to special treatment. Voters may be uninformed/racist/easily conned but our “elite” ranks are really fucking low quality themselves.

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    plato says:

    Concept: the 2020 Democratic primary as a video game where you die if you claim you can work with Mitch McConnell to get things done https://t.co/hTtkxg2ruT— 𝙹𝚞𝚕𝚒𝚎 (@resisterhood) March 4, 2019

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    germy says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: Maybe he’s tweeting in church.

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    @Kay: Also, our media. I saw Washington Week on PBS this weekend, Susan Page called T charismatic and charming on a one-on-one basis.
    Eewww. My opinion about her had been pretty neutral up to that point, now I won’t take a word that comes out of her mouth, seriously.

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    plato says:

    Of course, it was all projection, assholes. These ‘journos’ are wilfully short of common sense and basic integrity.

    Wow @JaneMayerNYer reports Ailes fed Trump debate questions before the first GOP primary debate on Fox in 2015 https://t.co/ix94LVPGgF— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) March 4, 2019

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Baud: Wish you could be Solomon in the place of our modern-day Nero!!

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    Immanentize says:

    @MomSense: The snow is just wrapping up here, north of Boston. Looks like 8 or 10″ of heavy sticky stuff. The Immp’s school was cancelled. My University closed until noon. I am working up the courage (and the right degree of caffeination) to at least shovel from the front door to the street. I’ll let you know if I crap out and lie down to die in a snow bank.

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    Kay says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Susan Page called T charismatic and charming on a one-on-one basis.

    Why not? You should just ignore all his public statements and actions and trust Susan Page. She can vouch for him.

    They do this all the time. “I know him”. Oh, okay. I guess we all 400 million of us have to personally meet him before forming an opinion. What they’re doing with this is putting us in a subordinate position- we have to guess about public figures. We have to read tea leaves and guess at motives. It’s the attitude of “the help” towards the master.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize: Unless the AL GOP renominates Moore, I’m pretty sure Jones is toast.

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    Immanentize says:

    @satby: hi Satby. Do you or anyone here know who called Sanders the “Last living civil rights hero?”. Mentioned in that thread….

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    Immanentize says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I sadly agree, but Alabama kept sending up Roy Moore time and again to run — even after he was kicked off the Supreme Court. So, that may happen.

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    Kay says:

    @plato:

    Of course he did. They need to re-do the debates. Media fucked it all up and it’s corrupt and useless. Throw it out and start over. It’s sucked for almost 20 years, since the commercial entities took it over. Time for a new idea. Put someone else in charge and start from scratch.

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    @Kay: They are so servile where Rs are concerned. Whory Woodruff is the same way. Tough questioning when she has D guests, which I approve of, I want politicians feet to be held to fire, but soft balls for R guests. And “experts” like Kobach to discuss immigration issues. Your so called liberal media.
    ETA: Many of them are no better than the servile Rs in Congress.

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    NotMax says:

    @Immanentize

    even after he was kicked off the Supreme Court

    Twice.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Immanentize: There’s a part of me that thinks if nominated, he could win this time. Christian forgiveness and all that. And yes, Ala-fucking-bama.

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    BC in Illinois says:

    @japa21:

    So I am reading that because she called out the gutting of the Voting Right Act, Clinton is whining and blaming her loss on the Supreme Court. What a bunch of hogwash.

    If they are pushing that line, then they didn’t watch the speech. (High level of probability)

    She alluded to the effects of the decision on the 2016 race, but her prime example of voter suppression was from “the state next door,” — Georgia, where Stacey Abrams should rightfully be governor. Stacey Abrams’s continuing work on voters’ rights was the example of what people need to be doing, to carry on the spirit of the Selma march.

    I am always impressed by how low-key and indirect her references to her own race can be. Clear-eyed and wistful, rather than bitter and angry.

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    @OzarkHillbilly: Doug Jones won when no one was expecting him too. And T is not getting more popular in the next two years. So he could well hold on to the seat. We will see.

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    @BC in Illinois: MSM would rather worship the demented T who demonizes and targets journalists than say one nice word about HRC.

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    satby says:

    @Immanentize: an obvious troll factory account. Google search results here: https://www.google.com/search?q=sander+“last+living+civil+rights+hero”&oq=sander+”last+living+civil+rights+hero”&aqs=chrome..69i57.19806j1j4&sourceid=silk&ie=UTF-8
    Excuse me while I go shower now.
    Edit: you’re probably going to have to Google the query I did, because the link isn’t landing on the search.

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    Immanentize says:

    @satby: ha! Only part of your link was linkable without cut and paste — and what I got was power hand Sanders! I have one already, but that made me smile wide.
    “Sanders — what a tool!”

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    MomSense says:

    @Immanentize:

    Well, as it turns out the snow was too deep to drive through on the street so I had to wait for the plow – which meant tackling the mountain at end of the driveway. Kid would have stayed home sick today anyway so I didn’t ask him for help.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @schrodingers_cat: It certainly is possible, but…. Ala-fucking-bama. ;-)

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    WaterGirl says:

    @MomSense: Barack Obama’s last speech to the nation is still on my Tivo, unwatched, because I can’t bear to watch it. It will break my heart. I am saving it for when the dumpster fire is no longer present.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Kay:

    Of course he did. They need to re-do the debates. Media fucked it all up and it’s corrupt and useless. Throw it out and start over. It’s sucked for almost 20 years, since the commercial entities took it over. Time for a new idea. Put someone else in charge and start from scratch

    The political parties control the debates. They are not giving up power to make the debates more useful to voters.

    ETA: I also would not be surprised if Trump ducked out on any debates with a Democratic Party challenger.

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    ruemara says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: He left before the actual event. He went to give his speech at the lunch honoring HRC and left before the full event marking the walk across the bridge. Which is pretty insulting. Especially since he went to one of the few mostly white areas of Chicago, stacked the stands behind him with black people for his mostly white crowd and then decided he had Barack Obama’s life story, where he was a formed through his work in Chicago.

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