Paging Mr. Baron…Paging Mr. Miller…Norwegian Anti-Fraud Squad On Line One

Mr. Baron and Mr. Miller, you may recall, have a close relationship with the cheetoh-faced, ferret-heedit shitgibbon.

We don’t know the name of anyone who may have displaced Miller and Baron in the Orange One’s heart, but he is clearly keeping busy:

A total of 329 candidates — 217 individuals and 112 organizations — are being considered for this year’s prize, which will be announced in October…

But a wrinkle in this time-honored process — the peace prize was first awarded in 1901 — emerged on Tuesday, when the committee announced that it had uncovered what appeared to be a forged nomination of President Trump for the prize. The matter has been referred to the Oslo police for investigation.

Mr. Baron or whatever the alias now may be is, it seems, a recidivist:

…the forgery appears to have occurred twice: Olav Njolstad, the secretary of the five-member committee, said it appeared that a forged nomination of Mr. Trump for the prize was also submitted last year — and was also referred to the police. (The earlier forgery was not disclosed to the public at the time.)

What kind of person is at once so disdainfully fraudulent and so hilariously inept at his con?  Who could it be?

Well…Trump, recall, was the man who put his lens-shattering mug in fake Time Man of the Year covers, so there’s form here.

I’d file this one under “Point and Mock”…but then I remember that the entire GOP stands in thrall to this pathetic, hollow, terrified tosser.  And then I weep for the Republic, and worry, desperately, for my son.

(Also too:  I would so love an appendix to the Mueller Report dealing with all this.)

Image: Jacob Willemsz de Wet, Allegory of Peace triumphant over War1650

54 replies
  1. 1
    PJ says:

    Well, since no one has commented yet, I’m going to go out on a limb, and say it wasn’t Trump who submitted his own name, more likely he told Don Jr. to do it, and this is what you get with low quality hires.

    ETA: or Lindsay Graham.

  2. 2
    lollipopguild says:

    Only the best people work for trump and only the best type of person could have done this.

  3. 3
    West of the Rockies says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Clump himself gave the order.

  4. 4
    plato says:

    Shinzo Abe – What have you got to say for yourself?

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    Did we miss this earlier? It is to laugh.

    Update from @EvyMages: Gorka’s car got ticketed

    — Andrew Beaujon (@abeaujon) March 1, 2019

  6. 6
    Jeffro says:

    How does a trumpublican look at forged Nobel prize nominations, Trump U settlements, multiple kajillion-dollar bankruptcies, porn star payoffs, the NYT story on Fred/DJT’s decades-long tax avoidance scam, money laundering condo buys by dozens of Russian crime figures, and think: now THERE’S a guy I want leading my country?

    Oh wait, that’s right, they never hear any of this shit because a) they don’t follow #fakenews (aka, actual news) and b) they have their fingers in their ears anyway, and also blindfolds.

    GOP tribalism: it’s a helluva drug.

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    NotMax says:

    Although it is denied above, am sure of having read this same thing before, during every year Dolt 45 has held office.

    Wouldn’t come as a shock if it was revealed the application was filled out in Melania’s handwriting. Or by someone using the name of the Saudi Crown Prince.

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    Duane says:

    @plato: Vegas should put odds on who did it. It has to be Putin right?

  9. 9
    NotMax says:


    Dishonest Abe?


  10. 10
    Plato says:


    It’s all Obama hate. As some jackal here said, the ‘wwc’ folks hated a decent, eloquent, competent and faithful black man so much that they actively sought and elected the very antithesis of that blackman.

  11. 11
    Plato says:

    @NotMax: It was his one job.

  12. 12
    Quaker in a Basement says:

    If the forgery purports to be from Abe, we don’t have to guess who the culprit is.

  13. 13
    debbie says:

    Wasn’t there a “Mr. Smith” or “Mr. Miller” who kept calling into NYC radio shows, extolling the excellence of Mr. Trump?

  14. 14
    AnotherBruce says:

    This tiny fraud caused me to really LOL. If Trump had any guile he could have wrote that off as a prank. But instead he is so egotistically pathetic that it’s frighteningly funny.

  15. 15
    Aleta says:

    Why not have a fake medal and diploma made and just announce he won.

  16. 16
    NotMax says:

    Mirabile dictu, Brian Williams’ show has become almost watchable without Brian Williams.

    Like paying farmers not to grow a crop, maybe MSNBC could institute an approach to pay him not to show up.

  17. 17
    danielx says:


    How does a trumpublican look at forged Nobel prize nominations, Trump U settlements, multiple kajillion-dollar bankruptcies, porn star payoffs, the NYT story on Fred/DJT’s decades-long tax avoidance scam, money laundering condo buys by dozens of Russian crime figures, and think: now THERE’S a guy I want leading my country?

    Is that even a question?

    They don’t care what he has done in the past, what he’s doing now, or what he does in the future, as long as he’s hurting the right people. They will go along with anything he says or does. More frighteningly, if he tells them to go into the streets with rifles, a sizeable number of them will do it.

    ETA: It doesn’t matter how much evidence Mueller or anyone else comes up with – the more evidence, the greater the confirmation for them of just how deep the plot against Dear Leader goes.

    You cannot reason with these people.

  18. 18
    Ruckus says:

    Lying is easier and comes far more naturally to Trump.
    Also he’d have to pay someone to make the fake stuff.

  19. 19
    Mike J says:


    Shinzo Abe – What have you got to say for yourself?

    Am I the only person who always sings Shinzo Abe to the tune/meter of Rico Suave?

  20. 20
    waratah says:

    Well he does not have his Fixer anymore.

  21. 21
    mrmoshpotato says:

    @danielx: @Jeffro: Also, remember the “He says what I’m thinking.” line.

    Trump is a racist Fox News-watching grandpa. Fox News has been shitting into the skulls of Trump and his supporters since 1996.

    h/t @Mr_Electrico

  22. 22
    Steeplejack (phone) says:


    They did that last week and this week with Chris Matthews, but they made the mistake of subbing in Steve Kornacki.

  23. 23
    Another Scott says:

    @Steeplejack (phone): I’m surprised the ticket was only $25. Parking at National Harbor is ridiculous. :-/

    The Washingtonian story that photo was from is pretty good.


  24. 24
    NotMax says:


    Keeping up the praxis of it being the The Overcaffeinated Hour?


  25. 25
    Wag says:

    @Mike J:

    Before tonight, I wouldn’t have considered it because I had never heard of Rico Suave. After tonight, I think I will hear this from now on.

  26. 26
    Jay says:


    “They will go along with anything he says or does. More frighteningly, if he tells them to go into the streets with rifles, a sizeable number of them will do it.”

    I think you will be greatly surprised how few will turn out for The American Civil War, Electric Trumpaloo, also known as Treason in Defence of Stupidity.

    It’s easy to play a White Supremacist former SEAL online. The real world is different. When the Unite the Right went to the Boston Massacre, 13 Nazis showed up and were met by 3500-8000 counterprotesters, had to be escorted to the Bandstand by the Spartacus League, where they stood around for 20 minutes pissing themselves. They didn’t even turn their bullhorns on, and were escorted back out.

    La Meute, the armed White Quebecqois Supremacy group, claims to have 80,000 “active members”. They get 25 to show up for “protests”, and even a free White Quebecqois BBQ and Beer event only draws 125.

    The white fat fuck Middle Manager with minimal education and his wife, who coasted to middle class status of being a mediocre white male, ain’t going to take to the trenches for the Fat Furour. His wife isn’t gonna cut up her Martha Steward 400 thread count sheets and pillowcases for bandages for “the troops”.

    “You cannot reason with these people.”

    Of course not. The only reason for their involvement in politics is to piss off the Libtards and hurt the “right people”. They have abandoned reason for anger, resentment and whinging victimhood.

  27. 27
    Jay says:


    Ever heard of being “swove and deboner”?

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    Bill Arnold says:

    There is also a wikipedia page:
    (The fortune article is fun.)
    My rule is “blessed are the peacemakers, cursed are the warmongers, no exceptions”. (Such a blessing would be weighed against the negatives.)
    Not sure how this fake application would fit into that schema.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Steeplejack (phone):
    More Sebastian Gorka news:
    Sebastian Gorka recommends ‘The Art of the Deal’ to Kim Jong-un following failed Vietnam summit (Andrew Blake – The Washington Times (Right wing) – March 1, 2019)

    Kim Jong-un could have avoided the latest round of talks between North Korea and the U.S. from collapsing by reading President Trump’s book, “The Art of the Deal,” Sebastian Gorka said Thursday.

    (The actual SG quote is more complicated.)
    See also Johnny Depp’s version of The Art of the Deal, very much my favorite.

  31. 31
    eemom says:

    We don’t know the name of anyone who may have displaced Miller and Baron in the Orange One’s heart, but he is clearly keeping busy

    Also too, the new “fixer” is gonna have to outdo the former one, who terrorized every educational institution Dump ever attended against releasing his grades. Maybe this new guy will go full horse head.

  32. 32
    Duane says:

    @Bill Arnold: All conservative arguments get complicated with even minor scrutiny. Delusions are that way.

  33. 33
    Aleta says:

    The story about the forged nominations in 2018 and 2017 seems to be from a year ago.

    The story about Abe nominating him is from this year, when T said during his nat’l emergency declaration to the press:

    Prime Minister Abe of Japan gave me the most beautiful copy of a letter that he sent to the people who give out a thing called the Nobel Prize. He said, “I have nominated you, or, respectfully, on behalf of Japan, I am asking them to give you the Nobel Peace Prize.” I said, “Thank you.”

    I mean, it was the most beautiful [five-page letter.] Nobel Prize. He sent it to them. You know why? Because he had rocket ships and he had missiles flying over Japan. And they had alarms going off – you know that. Now, all of a sudden, they feel good. They feel safe. I did that.

    (Btw, it’s not true that they feel safe now or believe T accomplished anything with NK.)

  34. 34
    Hob says:

    Please tell me that Barron Trump, the child, and Mr. Baron/Barron, the sockpuppet alias, are both named after one of Trump’s ancestors or something, rather than the kid being named after the sockpuppet.

  35. 35
    NotMax says:


    Name swiped from here, almost surely, just as one of his offspring is named after the tony jewelry emporium.

  36. 36
    NotMax says:


    “Rocket ships.”

    Several Mariana Trenches could easily nestle atop one another within the depth of the man’s stupidity, with room to spare.

  37. 37
    Amir Khalid says:

    I’d only ever heard of Taco Grande, myself

  38. 38
    Amir Khalid says:

    I’d only ever heard of Taco Grande, myself.

  39. 39
    Brachiator says:


    GOP tribalism: it’s a helluva drug.

    Some of them are true believers. From a recent story.

    MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell declared that God had chosen President Trump to run against Hillary Clinton at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Thursday.

    In a speech to the conservative activist conference posted to Twitter by Right Wing Watch, Lindell said Trump’s victory in November 2016 was “a miracle” directly caused by divine intervention.

    “As I stand before you today, I see the greatest president in history. Of course he is. He was chosen by God,” Lindell told the audience.

    “God answered our prayers, our millions of prayers, and gave us grace, and a miracle happened on Nov. 8, 2016,” Lindell continued. “We were given a second chance and time granted to get our country back on track with our conservative values and getting people saved in Jesus’s name.”


  40. 40
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Mike J: you bastard!

    @Jay: how many will turn out? III%, according to violent and stupid RWNJs.

  41. 41
    The Midnight Lurker says:

    Is this thread dead? Good!

    I nominate The Midnight Lurker for the Nobel Peace Prize! I have my official nomination right here… in my pocket (searches)… on the back of a cocktail napkin…

  42. 42
    Gvg says:

    How do you forge a nomination? I guess the committee contacted the person whose name was on the letter and got told he hadn’t written it? It just seems so weird.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    @Bill Arnold: Is Gorka aware that the ghost writer of “Art of the Deal” has already come forward? So what does Gorka think reading Tony Schwartz’ book would have done for the Korea talks?

    @Gvg: I’ll be very disappointed if the internet doesn’t produce “images” of the forged nomination, probably written in crayon.

  44. 44
    Another Scott says:


    Process of nomination and selection

    The Norwegian Nobel Committee is responsible for selecting the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates. A nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize may be submitted by any persons who are qualified to nominate.

    Qualified nominators
    Revised September 2016

    According to the statutes of the Nobel Foundation, a nomination is considered valid if it is submitted by a person who falls within one of the following categories:

    * Members of national assemblies and national governments (cabinet members/ministers) of sovereign states as well as current heads of states
    * Members of The International Court of Justice in The Hague and The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague
    * Members of l’Institut de Droit International
    *Members of the Executive Committee of the international board of the Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom
    *University professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion; university rectors and university directors (or their equivalents); directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes
    * Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
    * Members of the main board of directors or its equivalent of organizations that have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
    * Current and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee (proposals by current members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after 1 February)
    * Former advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Committee

    Unless otherwise stated the term members shall be understood as current (sitting) members.


    Presumably a forgery would be a submission from someone claiming to be from one of the valid nominating groups but who wasn’t actually so.

    I assume the point is to give Donnie a talking point so that he can try to bully the Nobel people into giving him a prize even though it’s hard to imagine anyone sensible sincerely nominating him. And the idea that the Nobel people could be bullied is laughable.

    My $0.02.


  45. 45
    LivinginExile says:

    Nancy Smash for the Nobel Peace Prize! Sound of heads exploding.

  46. 46
    Bookeater (formerly JosieJ) says:

    @Another Scott:

    The irony is that, as a current head of state, Trump is already among those who can make a nomination. I don’t know if the rules prohibit a self-nomination (they probably do), but if they don’t, he could just as easily have publicly nominated himself. Of course, that wouldn’t give him the ego boost that having the public think that lots of people were clamoring for him to get the prize would.

  47. 47

    The horrifying hypocrisy of American conservatives when it comes to the Nobel Prizes:

    1) they always express disdain at the awards that routinely hand out Peace Prizes to libruls and progressives who actually strive towards peace,
    2) they are so eager to WIN a Peace Prize because it grants the winner (and thus, their ideology) the statesman’s gravitas the conservatives need to shill themselves.

    Watch how they tried so hard to get Dubya – or other Republicans – named as a Peace Prize NOMINEE (like that means anything) during the War On Terror as our GOP leaders were bombing the sh-t out of Afghanistan and Iraq (and threatening to do the same to Iran and North Korea).

    They saw what happened to Henry Kissinger. He got a Peace Prize (that ended up being a joke) and suddenly he went from scheming Machiavellian to the go-to guy on foreign policy matters for even Democratic administrations.

    They’re like the prima donna artiste who complains about award shows and then eagerly kicks everyone out of the way when they get a Best In Show blue ribbon at the state fair for their painting of a squash atop a pumpkin.

  48. 48


    it doesn’t sound like Abe is on the hook for this one: Abe was bullied by the trump people to submit a clean nomination and I’m not entirely sure he even carried through on it.

    what I’m understanding is that there was a deliberate forgery: trying to submit a nomination under someone’s name that the person wasn’t aware had been submitted. Either the Committee received two nominations from one person, or a nomination got intercepted and then denied on follow-up (hell, if I was on the Nobel Committee and received a nomination with *trump’s* name on it, I’d be following up on it too).

    but this is how desperate trump’s people want that validation. they are willing to steal it if they have to.

  49. 49


    this obsession with getting a Far Right/NeoCon Republican a Peace Prize was an obsession before Obama won his. All during the Dubya years, I kept hearing from the Fox Not-News talking heads about every “Bomb Em All” guest speaker being a nominee for the Peace Prize (without mentioning the people doing the nominating were fellow talking heads with no vote on the matter!). I recall they made a genuine effort to make George W. a nominee but at the height of the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan would have made the whole thing a goddamned mockery.

    What made Obama’s win such a berserk button for Republicans was that he won within SIX months of his election win in 2008. Ostensibly because he promised to reduce nuclear arms with the U.S. and abroad (which he barely accomplished his entire tenure, sad to say). But everybody knew he got it because he wasn’t George W. Bush.

    The efforts now to get trump the Prize has less to do with actual leadership and diplomacy (trump has done neither on the global stage) than it does forcing the Nobel people to submit to Republican will.

  50. 50
    Citizen Alan says:

    @Mike J:

    Probably, but then again. I can’t think about Rico Suave without hearing Weird Al’s ‘Taco Grande.’

  51. 51
    Citizen Alan says:


    These people worship the Devil and are too stupid to realize it.

  52. 52
    Keith P. says:

    The bar was already pretty low, but asking Japan to nominate you (and going “Oh, what a *lovely* gesture!”) and *also* forging a nomination is pretty fucking low-rent.

  53. 53
    WaterGirl says:

    @Keith P.: Trump humiliates himself publicly every single day — with every action he takes — and with every pathetic, evil, cheating scoundrel her brings onto his team. He just doesn’t have the self awareness to know it.

  54. 54
    Another Scott says:

    @PaulWartenberg: Wonkette’s on the case:

    Uff da! The lefse’s really in the fire now! Njolstad didn’t provide the Times with copies of the forgeries or any details about them, so we won’t know what color crayon was used on the letter. But he did say it was “fair to assume” the documents had come from someone pretending to be a qualified nominator, but that the person whose name was on them said nah mang, wasn’t me.


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