Saturday Morning Open Thread: Sisters Are Doing It…

Stacey Abrams continues to impress!


And it looks like Kamala Harris is very popular with the people who count (so I added a fresh new category for her):

116 replies
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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Blech: Amazon made an $11.2bn profit in 2018 but paid no federal tax

    In 2018, Amazon nearly doubled its profits, from $5.6bn to $11.2bn. But far from paying the statutory 21% income tax rate, it reported a $129m federal income tax rebate for the year – a tax rate of -1%.

    “The fine print of Amazon’s income tax disclosure shows that this achievement is partly due to various unspecified ‘tax credits’ as well as a tax break for executive stock options,” according to ITEP.

    Amazon is not alone. As ITEP pointed out, last week Netflix posted a profit of $845m in 2018, its largest ever profit, but paid no federal or state income tax.

    The corporate bonuses come after the Trump administration introduced its Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which sharply cut federal corporate tax rates and expanded others.

    “This is not their first rodeo,” said Matthew Gardner, ITEP senior fellow. “More than any company I have ever seen they have built their company around tax avoidance.”

    One central idea of Trump’s tax cuts was to cut corporate tax rates from 35% to 21% but as the tax filings come in it is becoming increasingly clear that many companies are not even paying the lower rate, he said.

    “You can’t lay the blame too much on Congress,” said Gardner. “It wasn’t Congress that came up with these ideas. They are the product of a lobbying blitz from these companies. These companies wrote the law in many cases.”

    On the contrary, I can and do blame the soulless, greedy, amoral crime cartel known as the GOP.

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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    Baud says:

    Members of the Selma-to-Montgomery March Foundation announcing @HillaryClinton will take part in Bridge Crossing Jubilee in Selma Sunday, March 3rd.

    Don’t they know she runs a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor and doesn’t use best email practices?

    And it looks like Kamala Harris is very popular with the people who count

    Don’t they know she’s not really black?


    Good morning.

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    Sab says:

    @rikyrah: good morning

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    Big Mango says:

    Kamala Harris has impressed me; I can see how she can win the nomination and then pick an older pol to appease the nattering nabobs . Someone like Sherrod Brown reassures the talking heads and helps in Ohio which always a must win….

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    Baud says:

    @Big Mango:

    She seems the most organized at this early stage.

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    Bostonian says:

    I think I would enjoy watching any debate in which Kamala Harris takes part.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    US coastal businesses hit by everyday impact of climate change, study shows

    When the parking lot in the bustling tourist zone of downtown Annapolis floods, the employees at Pip’s Dock Street Dogs restaurant take off their socks and shoes, wrap their legs in trash bags and wade out into the water. A lot of the time, it’s not even raining. High tides intensified by sea-level rise are just pushing the water inland, overwhelming the drainage system. Pip’s – named after owner Ryan Lamy’s daughter, whose real name is Madeline – floods inside frequently too.

    “We wait for the tide to go out, and then we mop,” Lamy said. “That’s all we can do.”

    Lamy has been running Pip’s for 10 years. His young daughter, pictured in photos on the walls of the restaurant, is now turning 15. And he says the flooding has only gotten worse, sometimes costing him thousands in lost sales each month.

    A new study attempts to quantify those losses, as coastal communities around the country brace for more tidal flooding as warmer temperatures increase sea levels. Published in the peer-reviewed journal Science Advances, the study estimates that eight shops in Annapolis saw about 3,000 fewer visitors and up to $172,000 less in revenue in 2017 when flooding closed the nearby parking lot.

    “We typically think about climate change in terms of extreme events like hurricanes and wildfires, but it actually causes impacts in all sorts of other ways,” said coauthor Miyuki Hino of Stanford University. “This is one way where it’s really a part of people’s daily lives. It’s chronic.”

    Clever these Chinese.

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    Ben Cisco says:

    This is shaping up to be an interesting primary season. If we can find a way not to screw this up…

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    Baud says:

    LGM has a nice write up of Julian Bond as part of it’s Grave series.


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    NotMax says:

    Felt in light of Dolt 45 yesterday this had to be made.

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    Baud says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Worked for me.


    I was hoping you got the other side this time.

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    NotMax says:


    Works just fine for me. Howsoever, try this one.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Worked for me too.

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    @Baud: That is the other side.

    @NotMax: Still no work, probably just my internet connection needs sleep.

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    NotMax says:

    On a less somber and hyperbolic note –

    Sorry, Coke, it sounds cloyingly yucky.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Agreed on Kamala Harris. Organisational skills matter a great deal in the Oval Office. She seems way ahead of the field in that respect.
    Repost from previous thread:
    RIP Bruno Ganz. He’s the actor who played Adolf Hitler in Der Untergang; his bunker meltdown scene from that film has become an Internet meme.

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    Baud says:

    NYT (not about domestic politics)

    Pope Francis has expelled Theodore E. McCarrick, a former cardinal and archbishop of Washington, from the priesthood, after an expedited canonical process that found him guilty of sexually abusing minors and adult seminarians over decades, the Vatican said on Saturday.


    It appears to be the first time that a cardinal or bishop in the United States has been defrocked, or laicized, from the Roman Catholic Church, and the first time any cardinal has been laicized for sexual abuse. Laicization, which strips a person of all priestly identity, also revokes church-sponsored resources like housing and financial benefits.

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    debbie says:


    I want that debate to be canceled. Please. Too soon and too many unknowns.

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    Baud says:


    Have you ever tried ginger spam Coke? Delish.

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    debbie says:


    They keep coming up with flavors better suited for 7-Up.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    So basically he just got fired from his job at the Church? I would have thought a decades-long record of sex crimes merited nothing short of excommunication.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Amir Khalid: One could think so, but one should not overlook what a huge and unprecedented step this is.

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    Baud says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I don’t know what the excommunication standard is, but since the Church emphasizes confession and forgiveness, I don’t think even horrific crimes are the basis for excommunication.

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    debbie says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    i think Benedict, with his vengefulness, would have excommunicated McKarrick, but Francis’s constitution is based on compassion. It would have been too much for him. And has excommunication even been used much since the Middle Ages?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Baud: From the Wikipedia:

    Excommunication is a rarely applied censure and thus a “medicinal penalty” intended to invite the person to change behaviour or attitude, repent, and return to full communion.[1] It is not an “expiatory penalty” designed to make satisfaction for the wrong done, much less a “vindictive penalty” designed solely to punish. Excommunication, which is the gravest penalty of all, is always medicinal,[2] and is “not at all vindictive”.[3]

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    So Bezos screwed Pecker, NYC and the American taxpayers all in one week! I’ll have what he’s having!

    Then Amazon says AOC is real mean, so they’re leaving.

    And Shultz! gets his own prime-time town hall on CNN in which he carefully enumerates all the problems facing this great country. But when asked, can not clearly delineate a remedy for a single one. Oh… and he hates Elizabeth Warren. HATES HER!

    I hope the ladies sweep the tickets in 2020.

    But honestly… after yesterday’s performance… I think we could run an old throw pillow stuffed with stale popcorn, draw a smiley face on it and still win by ten.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @debbie: There have been various schismatic groups/bishops who have been excommunicated in the 20th and 21st Centuries.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    I don’t know what the excommunication standard is, but since the Church emphasizes confession and forgiveness, I don’t think even horrific crimes are the basis for excommunication.

    Correct. That’s the whole purpose of the confessional.

    ETA pretty sure that heresy is the basis for most excommunications, but I certainly don’t know church law.

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    debbie says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I stand corrected. Thanks.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Brexit breakdown: fear and anger on the Irish border – video

    It’s 20 mins long, way beyond my usual 3 minute rule, but I found it interesting. It puts an (Northern) Irish face and voice on Brexshit.

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    mad citizen says:

    @Amir Khalid: Oh my gosh, I’ve watched a few of the Hitler meltdown parodies, one I recall had something to do with Bob Dylan. And just watched the original scene. But I just made the connection: Bruno Ganz played the dark-haired angel in Wim Wenders “Wings of Desire”. I had not seen the film since the 1980s, but watched it recently and it has stuck with me. One of the most beautiful films ever made. RIP Bruno.

    Als das Kind Kind war,
    ging es mit hängenden Armen,
    wollte der Bach sei ein Fluß,
    der Fluß sei ein Strom,
    und diese Pfütze das Meer.
    Als das Kind Kind war,
    wußte es nicht, daß es Kind war,
    alles war ihm beseelt,
    und alle Seelen waren eins.
    Als das Kind Kind war,
    hatte es von nichts eine Meinung,
    hatte keine Gewohnheit,
    saß oft im Schneidersitz,
    lief aus dem Stand,
    hatte einen Wirbel im Haar
    und machte kein Gesicht beim fotografieren.

    When the child was a child
    it walked with its arms swinging,
    wanted the brook to be a river,
    the river to be a torrent,
    and this puddle to be the sea.

    When the child was a child,
    it didn’t know that it was a child,
    to it, everything had a soul,
    and all souls were one.
    When the child was a child,
    it had no opinion about anything,
    had no habits,
    it often sat cross-legged,
    took off running,
    had a cowlick in its hair,
    and made no faces when photographed.

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    Yellowdog says:

    @Baud: I think you have to question or deny the back tenets of Catholicism to get excommunicated. Sins and crimes aren’t enough.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Oh, I’m sorry, he was a remarkable actor.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:


    Good morning! 😺

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    Immanentize says:

    @mad citizen: I too love wings of desire. I also haven’t seen it for a long time, but the scene in which the man is dying, sitting up after his (motorcycle?) Accident reciting all the things he loved in life. That still flashes in my mind occasionally.

    And just how weary angels are.

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    Kay says:

    @Big Mango:

    Someone like Sherrod Brown reassures the talking heads and helps in Ohio which always a must win….

    Ohio isn’t a must win. Either is Florida. Democrats need Clinton states plus PA, MI and WI. IMO, Ohio is a bellweather in another way- PA, MI and WI are enough like Ohio that if they’re way back in Ohio they need to worry about PA, MI and WI. That’s what the “blue wall” meant. Must win. It didn’t mean “carry Ohio” because Ohio goes back and forth, so it wasn’t part of the wall :)

    The honest critics of Clinton’s campaign aren’t mad because she lost Ohio. They’re mad because being so far back in Ohio should have meant she should have seen weakness in PA, MI and WI.

    What they really need is another big state where they’re competitive. I think Georgia makes the most sense but luckily they raise such crazy huge amounts of money if they spend it smartly they have plenty to go around. I think they should cut down on media purchases in their “traditional” states. That to me seems hugely bloated and no longer connected in any real way to value. In the “blue wall” states I’d like to see them rely more on hiring organizers to contact people in the areas they win, and need. Obama did some of this- he didn’t just raise money differently, he SPENT it differently, but we backtracked since then and we need to be more creative with spending, not less so.

    It doesn’t matter if you raise money from small donors and then spend it in exactly the same way you always did (Bernie Sanders). “How to spend massive amounts of money” is such a great problem to have and so many people will help you do it, that NOT doing it to me means there’s some kind of institutional, entrenched interest pushing back against re-examining where it’s expended.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Yellowdog: There have been attempts by RWNJ Bishops in the US to excommunicate Democratic Candidates because of their stance on abortion. Didn’t such a move happen with Kerry?

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    plato says:


    Obama did some of this- he didn’t just raise money differently, he SPENT it differently, but we backtracked since then and we need to be more creative with spending, not less so.

    Yup. “Media spends” is yet another grift invented by the media to line up their own greedy pockets. Spend it on people, voter ID and election related issues. Ads on stupid teevee are so passe in this social media age.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Kay: Liz Warren has upped her intern pay to $15 an hour. A friend of the Immp who is also a HS senior worked for Warren and got paid rather than being told it should be an honor just to be in her presence. I wonder if that will carry over to the campaign? Like you said, they all have enough money to do that.

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    debbie says:

    @mad citizen:

    I used to go to just about every movie that came out, foreign and domestic — easy to do, living in NYC. But at some point, and it was probably John Hughes’ fault, I’d stopped. I dutifully went to see Wings of Desire over on the West Side, and it reminded me why I had loved movies so much. What a great film!

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    Immanentize says:


    Ads on stupid teevee are so passe in this social media age

    Not the the olds who vote.

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    plato says:

    @Immanentize: The olds on facebook were the ones easily manipulated into voting for the totus thug, who spent zilch on ‘media spends’.

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    debbie says:


    Trump didn’t, but the PACs supporting him sure spent money. Tons of the stuff.

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    Kay says:


    I hate the whole discussion, too, because it’s so dumb. It isn’t about being frugal or cheap. It’s not “cutting costs”. It’s not “who ordered flowers”, not showy small things that don’t mean anything in terms of how one thinks about this.

    It’s putting it in different places. A different idea. Not the same idea stripped of flower purchases and expensive hotel rooms. That’s “cost cutting”- accounting. Accounting is for when you’re happy with the overall plan, but want to spend less and still do the same things. It needs to be thought about more than that. Are we happy with the general focus, or should it change?

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    Immanentize says:

    The Motorcycle scene with Bruno Gans in Wings of Desire
    (With subtitles!). That just made me tear up.

    I had forgotten that the real name of the film in German is “Wings Over Berlin.”

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Bruno Ganz was in a ton of movies, many of them great. One of my favorites is Gillian Armstrong’s The Last Days of Chez Nous (1992). Highly recommended.

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    Chyron HR says:

    Members of the Selma-to-Montgomery March Foundation announcing Hillary Clinton will take part in Bridge Crossing Jubilee in Selma Sunday, March 3rd.

    I think a woke white progressive needs to take these misguided ladies aside and remind them that BERNIE was the leader of the civil rights movement.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Kay: I wonder why they keep the volunteer campaign worker thing going? Sheer tradition from when machines ran campaigns at the local level? Even then, the ‘volunteers’ were generally people who owed their full time job (or their kid’s summer job even) to the machine via patronage. The whole point of “walking around money” from campaigns was to give the bosses of the volunteers some cash to spread around to keep the loyal loyal.

    But that whole system disappeared in the 70’s, but campaigns never changed.

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    Baud says:


    I don’t think the white olds took much manipulating. That’s why the Russians focused on young progressives and AA communities.

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    Kay says:


    Liz Warren has upped her intern pay to $15 an hour

    Oh, I’m so glad. Democrats can’t defend not paying people for work. I hope we can agree on that. It’s indefensible. It bothers me so much too, because it’s always young people and I think it’s a bad idea for them- bad advice. I don’t want them to work for free. I think that sets them back a year- it COSTS them 15k. Also- come on, it’s just gross. They can’t pay the top of the campaign 50k a month and pay NOTHING to the bottom. Move some down! Immediately!

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    Baud says:


    So why keep the internship label? Aren’t they just employees now?

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    debbie says:


    Thank you so, so much for this reminder! Weary is the least of it.

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    Yarrow says:

    Good morning, everyone.

    Sad commentary and people immediately think there’s an active shooter in situations like this:

    The wildly popular musical “Hamilton” ended in chaos Friday night in San Francisco’s Orpheum Theater.

    What audience members thought was an active shooter ended up being a medical emergency, officials said.

    People reportedly heard there was someone with a gun inside the theater and started screaming, leading others into a panic, running out of the theater and sending the “Hamilton” cast backstage.

    “There was no one with a gun, there were no shots fired, at the end it was a medical emergency,” said San Francisco Police Captain Renee Pagano.

    Someone had a heart attack, the AED was taken from it’s location and that set off an alarm and everyone panicked.

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    Kay says:


    I don’t think the idea of “internship” was not paying people. I think the idea was they would be in a lower position but learning something from people above them- potentially promotable, which is what makes it different than “we’re hiring you for this task”. The incentive is “this job sucks but you’ll learn something” but that doesn’t exclude paying them.

    I actually think they SHOULD hire more straight employees though. Line workers. People who DON’T move up and out.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Baud: Russia focused on all demographics. Old whites, young progressives, African Americans, anit-vaxxers, gun nuts, evangelicals, etc., etc. They even had people commenting on Balloon Juice.

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    Immanentize says:

    I think the Internship label survives because it is about short term, short hour work. In my world of “experiential education”, whether paid or not, the term intern (or nouvelle “extern”) generally is used for one who is still in school, but working to learn.

    There was a big (and scary for many) labor case out of the media industry in NY (I think I’m remembering correctly) that held that interns in that setting cannot be considered unpaid volunteers. This is a creeping understanding in many industries these days.

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    joel hanes says:


    McCarrick is a social justice Catholic. Ratzinger would have hated him for that reason. But Ratzinger did very little to deal with sexual abuse by the clergy — neither that nor social justice were high on his list of priorities, which seem to have been mostly about attempting to shore up the traditional authority of the Holy See.

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    Kay says:


    Exactly. During the Obama administration. It was a movie company. The interns sued. And, there’s rules:

    Employers can use internship programs to scout out new talent and get temporary help without committing to permanent new hires. But business owners who view interns as free labor or potential hires need to know that federal labor laws require payment in most circumstances. That’s not to say employers can never have unpaid interns; they’re just not very common, at least legally. State laws may also apply, but the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) governs how interns must be compensated under federal law.

    The Fair Labor Standards Act! We like that! :)

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    gene108 says:


    The issue is profits, as reported for financial reporting purposes, follows different rules than reporting profits for tax purposes.

    I really don’t know the solution, unless tax rules are totally rewritten to mirror financial reporting rules.

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    Kay says:


    There’s also that it’s not 1943 and “college students” aren’t all upper middle class and on a voyage of discovery for 4 years. It’s just archaic. They have to get paid now. At least cover their losses- a year without the lowest paid work they could get (40 hours). That’s 16,100 in Ohio. Don’t set them BACK a year.

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    Mary G says:

    Kamala plays the long game and has spent 20 years laying the ground work for this on the down low. The Republicans who are talking the media into the conventional “wisdom” that everyone who’s announced on the left is a dangerous radical (looking at you, Jennifer Rubin) are going to be surprised, because Democrats who drove the midterms are seriously pissed off at the “yes, a woman, but not that one” bullshit that’s being run again against Kamala the angry black cop, scoldy teacher Liz Warren, mean girl Amy Klochubar, yadda yadda yadda. We aren’t spending time bitching to FYFNYT reporters in diners, but tuning up our postcard-writing skills, stocking up on comfortable shoes, and in general getting ready to lay some serious whoop ass on Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, the Freedumb caucus, the “pro-life” uterus controllers, and anyone else who gets in the way.

    ETA: Susan Collins also too.

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    joel hanes says:


    media spends

    Don’t advertise. Organize.
    And use some the money to give those organizations some permanence. Someone to answer the phone in the local Democratic Party office every workday of every month of every year.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Immanentize: They wanted to (and maybe did, can’t look up now) deny him Communion. This is not the same thing.

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    plato says:

    @Baud: I need proof that AA people got played by russians. The other peeps? The proof is the totus thug.

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    Yarrow says:

    I really like Kamala Harris and from what I know of her so far I’d be happy if she got the nomination. I do kind of want to have at least a somewhat competitive Dem primary. With more candidates in the race different issues can be highlighted. Different candidates will have different strengths and weaknesses and it’s good to get to see all that. I am really excited to see so many women in the race and so much diversity.

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    plato says:

    @Baud: Go Francis. (The frigging ‘mexican’)

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    mad citizen says:

    @debbie: We probably need a movie thread on Oscar day. Was going to mention this–maybe too obvious given that it is rightfully getting publicity, but Alfonso Cuarón’s Roma–on netflix–is also a beatiful, human, B&W film. Just incredibly, beatifully filmed–I believe much/all of it by Cuaron himself. I would vote for it Best Picture.

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    sdhays says:


    “You can’t lay the blame too much on Congress,” said Gardner. “It wasn’t Congress that came up with these ideas. They are the product of a lobbying blitz from these companies. These companies wrote the law in many cases.”

    I guess, ultimately, we can’t really complain about anything because it’s all God’s Plan, right?

    Why shouldn’t we blame the Republican Congress (because no Democrat voted for this garbage) for enacting laws that companies wrote when Congress is paid to write laws? Do Congresspeople have no agency?

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    plato says:

    @joel hanes: This 1000x. Don’t just play the game only during the elections.

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    Yarrow says:

    @plato: One of the most popular Black Lives Matter Twitter accounts was a Russian account run by various members of the FSB, according to court filings from the Mueller investigation. There are other examples.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Kay: In 2018 our state party/coordinated campaign spent its money putting young paid organizers in every county, even the reddest of red ones. Their job was to recruit and train volunteers and execute voter contact strategy. It worked (with a little assist from Trump). We swept every federal and state race and increased our majorities in the state legislature and county offices. I hope they follow the same model in 2020.

    There was paid advertising too, but I saw almost none of it since I don’t get network television.

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    sdhays says:

    @Gin & Tonic: According to the Washington Post article I read, defrocking is actually more serious than excommunication because it is permanent whereas excommunication is considered temporary and will only continue as long as the person “continues in sin”.

    I’m not a Catholic and I don’t pretend to understand this stuff, but that’s what they’re saying.

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    plato says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: You are from NV, right? It was a great job by dems like you.

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    tokyokie says:

    Bruno Ganz, who was Swiss, was the holder of the Iffland-Ring, an award bestowed upon “the most significant and most worthy actor of the German-speaking theatre.” The recipient of the award is supposed to be determined by ring’s previous holder, although they have a nasty habit of dying soon after winning the award without choosing a successor. Ganz’s first choice, Gert Voss, died in 2014, and there’s no word as to whom Ganz wanted to receive the honor. But I’m sure Christoph Waltz would consider receiving it a far greater honor than his two Supporting Actor Oscars.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @plato: The Russians went after virtually all groups, to see where they could sow division and weaken our electoral system. In the AA case, there were fake BLM accounts as Yarrow notes above, as well as efforts to suppress AA voter turnout for Hillary. It appears they had some modest success in the latter case, especially with AA men. There’s a fair amount of documentation about these efforts, but sorry I don’t have time to research them just now.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @plato: New Mexico, but thank you anyway. :)

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    Immanentize says:

    Ann Coulter is setting up a GOP Presidential run. Discuss.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Immanentize: For realz?

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    Ann Coulter is setting up a GOP Presidential run.

    Pretty please with sugar on top!

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    Immanentize says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: Coulter yesterday:

    “The only national emergency is that our president is an idiot.”

    That is the best way, I would guess, for her to stay front and center. She would run Trump 2.0 for the grift.

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    plato says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: Sorry, mea culpa. :)

    But I know you are a long time dem fighter.

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    sdhays says:

    @Immanentize: I can’t imagine her doing anything more than what she already does – go on TV and get more coverage than she deserves. She a poorer female version of Trump.

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    NotMax says:


    Shall pass on that, thanks.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax: 🙂

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    Elizabelle says:

    Problem with comments in the above threads?

    Good morning, jackals.

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    FlyingToaster says:

    @Immanentize: Let us know when she actually sets up an exploratory committee. I want to mock.

    And it’ll probably spark the return of the Baculum King….

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    Immanentize says:

    @sdhays: That is exactly the point. But she is a pro-choice GOP woman, therefore a mighty foil to the current resident of 1600. Maybe she is just shooting to be named the next SCOTUS Justice?

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @plato: Thanks. And now I’m off to a party finance committee meeting. No better way to spend a sunny Saturday morning! Ciao, all!

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    sdhays says:

    @Immanentize: She’s pro-choice? Really? I did not know that. Regardless, she’s a monster.

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    tobie says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Amazon is not the only company that didn’t pay taxes in 2018. Google didn’t either. And yet our most progressive Democrats still only talk about individual tax rates, not the corporate tax code. Why is that?

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    PJ says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: This is precisely why those politicians and protestors in NY should have kept their mouths shut and ponied up the $3 billion in tax breaks and grants. Amazon only got $129MM from the feds last year – how do we expect them to stay in business?!!

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    Immanentize says:

    @sdhays: hmmm. She used to be but now her wiki page says she thinks that Roe should be over turned and the issue left to the States.

    ETA. Her wiki page looks like a campaign flyer.

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    Princess Leia says:

    @debbie: Actually, yes. Easiest to get though when you do something like participate in the “illicit” ordination of a woman.” The certificate is in latin and pretty enough to put on a wall!

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    mad citizen says:

    @tokyokie: I was wondering about Christoph Waltz and this ring, which I just read about this morning. It sounds like a high honor indeed. I think Waltz has transcended in the Tarantino movies, I know nothing of his earlier work, but have to guess it is excellent.

    His Comedians in Cars episode with Seinfeld was very funny, the German looking askance at our weird breakfast foods in the U.S.

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    mad citizen says:

    @PJ: All they have to do is turn themselves into non-profits. Voila, No taxes are ever due. A young work friend of mine used to say, there’s no difference between corportations and non=profits, it’s just a matter of where the money goes.

    We have these de-facto monopolies–time for some good old-fashioned regulation and minimum taxes, says this regulatory economist.

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    mad citizen says:

    @Immanentize: Exactly. It’s the Pat Buchanan gamut. You’re just a two-bit columnist with a small following/income. Run for President a couple times, and somehow that bestows legitimacy onto you and your speaking fees and prestige goes up. I’ve never understood this cycle, but it seems to work for these people.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @mad citizen: he is Austrian, not German!

    A fine line, I know

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    comrade scotts agenda of rage says:


    I really like Kamala Harris and from what I know of her so far I’d be happy if she got the nomination. I do kind of want to have at least a somewhat competitive Dem primary. With more candidates in the race different issues can be highlighted. Different candidates will have different strengths and weaknesses and it’s good to get to see all that. I am really excited to see so many women in the race and so much diversity.

    As a middle-aged white guy who lived in either the reddest or second reddest county in MO (formerly because I’m FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST!), I’m open to most anybody running on our side but will definitely be swayed by whoever the black ladies in this country coalesce behind.

    That being said, who saw Pete Buttigieg on Colbert the other night? Damned impressive.

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    PJ says:

    @mad citizen: Well, one difference between a for-profit corporation and a non-profit is all those shareholders, who are gonna be a little upset if they don’t get a return on their investment.

    Every for-profit corporation that actually makes a real profit should be paying taxes. (I would add churches to this too, but that ain’t gonna happen in One Nation Under God.) And corporate subsidies of all kinds need to be ended. If something needs to be incentivized, give a rebate to the consumer, not the business.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Immanentize: The actual “real name” of “Wings of Desire” is Der Himmel über Berlin – literal translation of which is “The Heaven Over Berlin.”

    Imm, I presume this is just a rare slip-up… but you kinda punched my button on this, because {RANT ON}

    there is no category of human bean I despise more than the self-proclaimed expert who doesn’t know what the fuck s/he’s talking about. I had a “friend” of many years standing who would routinely call me to deliver a half-hour lecture about something he had used his “wonderful mind” to think deeply about – until the day he chose to harangue me on one particular field of knowledge. After his diatribe I informed him that the conclusions his “wonderful mind” had let him to were about 90% totally wrong – & I knew this for a fact because I had worked in the field for nearly 20 years. (He was such a perceptive “friend” that he never bothered to ask what I did for a living.) He now whines to me in e-mails how terribly cruel I am to him because I no longer take his calls…he’s too narcissistic to entertain even the possibility that it’s his own arrogant stupidity that brought things to this point.

    {RANT OFF}

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    Sab says:

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: I heard Mayor Pete interviewed on our local public radio and yes he really is impressive.

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    mad citizen says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Yes, yes, I forgot–Austrian.

    I totally get the rant at self-proclaimed experts, but I don’t know German, so when the movie comes out in my country, and the poster says, and the dvd box says “Wings of Desire”, that’s what I’m going to call it. If you think about it, it’s perhaps a better title than “Wings Over Berlin”

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    Immanentize says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:
    I’m so sorry, totally a slip up. I meant Heaven but wings was still in my morning head. But you have restored my faith that the hive mind here will set it straight. In any case, I like the German title better than the English one….

    ETA. I really better ask — what did/do you do for a living?

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    Doug R says:

    @NotMax: Shouldn’t that be 1789-1830?

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Immanentize: I knew you meant Himmel, which is weird. And I teared up too; it’s a gorgeous film.

    @jeffreyw: Thanks!

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    debbie says:

    @mad citizen:

    I’m not familiar with that film, but heard a lot of good stuff said about it yesterday on a PBS special.

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    debbie says:


    Please, please, please.

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    debbie says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    In other words, mansplaining. //

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    Michael Cain says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yeah, my response when the UK submitted their Article 50 notice was, “Well, Northern Ireland is screwed.” I still think the way things game out will require them to choose where the hard border is going to be, not whether there’s a hard border or not. If they’re lucky, that is, they’ll get to choose; it may be imposed upon them.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Michael Cain:

    And which would be better for N Ireland? Hard border between them and the EU/real Ireland? or Hard border between N Ireland and England?

    I know which I would choose — but I’m neither Irish nor English, and would have fired anyone who brought up leaving my nation’s primary trading partner without a deal in place before voting on the departure. Amazing political stupidity as far as international economics goes!!!

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