Saturday Evening Mockery Open Thread: IS This Donald Trump?

I’m not 100% convinced… but if so, Adam’s right that the bulletproof vest really *does* add considerable girth to the Oval Office Squatter’s business attire!

(Also, for once the subject is standing like an adult male, not sticking out his rear like an elderly lady balancing her heavily corseted breasts.)

Not so unsure that I won’t enjoy a Saturday night snarkfest…

Bonus points — it was announced earlier this week that DonJr & Eric have given up on their dreams of down rent hotel development for the masses. Maybe they just couldn’t go any further downscale than their old man’s stomping grounds…

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    Timurid says:


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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    Oh, my God! He casts no reflection!!!!

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    MagdaInBlack says:

    I was wondering about that pink shape on his “less-than-the-usual-orange” face….

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    The hat has me wondering if he didn’t do his hair today, but I can’t imagine he would risk it getting blown off, what with cameras everywhere these days.

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    Olivia says:

    I wonder if that dead animal on his head conceals a bulletproof helmet

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    CaseyL says:

    He looks a LOT skinnier in that photo than usual. Horrible thought, he might be physically as healthy as he claims. Ugh.

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    Plato says:

    Farmers across the Midwest going bankrupt. Chapter 12 filings have doubled since 2008 in Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 16, 2019

    Spite voting matters.

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    jl says:

    ” This is the quality of interior design and workmanship you get when you’ve got a rep for stiffing your contractors. ”
    Snotty @mel_giancarlo, whoever that is, can shut up his yap. The Trump joint looks almost as good as the SF Presidio public course club house. I feel insulted.
    I pass by there on a lot of walks and get me a sody pop or a cuppa coffee sometimes.

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    columbusqueen says:

    He can’t drop dead of a massive heart attack soon enough. Henry VIII was sane & a gentleman compared to this fat ugly fucker.

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    I’m trying out this bread recipe, and then I dunno, I think I’ll work on my short story some, and play Sunless Skies. Big home improvement day plus we did our taxes so I’ve earned a mindless evening. (Then again I always feel owed a mindless evening…)

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    jl says:

    @columbusqueen: Henry VIII fell off his horse and hurt his head at a joust, and probably spent most of his reign slowly going mad from brain damage. So, unfair comparison? I’m not sure. I’ll have to think it through some more.

    Edit: Before he cracked his skull at the joust, Henry VIII was sane and a gentlemen, at least for his time.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Major Major Major Major: we did our taxes

    Been avoiding mine all day, even though every year when I finish I tell myself, ‘that wasn’t so bad, I wish I had just done it earlier’

    also, too, national emergency trump’s fat ass

    Ben Smith @ BuzzFeedBen
    A Costa Rican paper, @ nacion, says it has found the guys who built Trump National in 2002, using fake documents. Among the details: no sneaking over the Mexican border — they flew into Newark.

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    guachi says:

    @jl: The picture doesn’t look like like that of a high-end establishment, though.

    It looks like a plain hotel interior at the breakfast bar.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    Can’t be Trump. Ask yourself if he would really walk to serving station. He’d expect to be served by liveried minions.

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    Virginia says:

    @Major Major Major Major: that’s a good recipe for bread. You will like it. Once you have a bin of it in the fridge, it also makes a pretty good pizza crust.

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    jl says:

    Breaking. Sirens. Must cite… i dunno, me? @joshtpm twitter? Smithsonian?

    Dolphins chew pufferfish to get high. Probably people should not try it.

    Dolphins Seem to Use Toxic Pufferfish to Get High
    The dolphins’ expert, deliberate handling of the terrorized puffer fish implies that this is not their first time at the hallucinogenic rodeo

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    JR says:

    @columbusqueen: he’s more Charles I in the English line. One of the “restored” Bourbons in the French.

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    jl says:

    @guachi: Whatever. Looks close enough to SF Presidio public links club house that I took it as an insult to the City and County of San Francisco and Golden Gate National Recreational Area.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @jl: There is nothing exceptional in the pic but as someone who spent his life building such stuff there is nothing objectionable there either. His complaints have a lot more to do with the people who abuse it than the quality of workmanship.

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    germy says:


    I was wondering about that pink shape on his “less-than-the-usual-orange” face….

    that’s where Melania slapped him.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    “Look, mother! The Emperor has no clothes!”

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    oatler. says:

    Vest can stop bullets but not cholesterol.

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    germy says:

    The chipped wood bar, the squeeze ketchup bottles, the slightly crooked mirror, the dirty clothes left on a chair – ahhh this is the classy living Americans were promised— Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker) February 16, 2019

    Coming from South Florida, this is like the definition of South Florida trash— Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker) February 16, 2019

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    @Virginia: aaaand into the oven! Fingers crossed!

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    banditqueen says:

    What is the black toilet-like object in the top image? A tweet-throne? Really ugly room – ugh.

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    Another Scott says:

    @germy: The leather upholstery gives it away as an “upscale” place.


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    Another Scott says:

    @banditqueen: Looks kinda like a commercial rolling ice cart to me.


    Real classy joint. ;-)


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    JMG says:

    My parents were country club Republicans. My brothers s†ill are. I have spent a significant portion of my life in posh clubs, some of them famous. and golf resorts. Never, ever ever, have I seen one with ketchup at the omelette bar. That’s an insult to the omelette guy, many of whom are real craftspeople. This had to be him, an order by him. I think we can safely say there are no vegetables in a Trump omelet. Bacon and cheese with extra cheese? Also an extra yolk?

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    germy says:

    @Another Scott: This tableau reminds me of the old W.C. Fields short subject “The Golf Specialist”

    I expect him to yell “Stand clear and keep your eye on the ball!!” at a diminutive caddy while struggling with some sticky paper.

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    trollhattan says:

    Orrrr, he has consumption. Live the dream!

    Walk the walk? Fvck no, he always rides the cart. As if.

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    germy says:

    The top photo is cropped so you can’t see the dirty clothes left on the chair in the foreground. I assume the club members expect to be picked up after.

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    chris says:

    Surprised to see John Kerry’s wife’s ketchup on the bar.

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    jl says:

    I saw that a long time ago at a film marathon. During college, I think.

    W.C. Fields – The Golf Specialist PUBLIC DOMAIN

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    Another Scott says:

    @germy: Hehe. The Golf Specialist (20:30) Fields was too thin though.



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    germy says:

    The banality of evil.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    The place looks shabby, like it hasn’t been redecorated in decades. That’s no way to run a hotel.

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    banditqueen says:

    @Another Scott: Thank you–I’ll accept that as the ‘official’ explanation. He looks like he’s been living rough, too.

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    Brachiator says:


    Farmers across the Midwest going bankrupt. Chapter 12 filings have doubled since 2008 in Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin.

    Thank God we’ve got free market business leaders running the government. We can’t bail out any of these loser farmers. That would be welfare.

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    scav says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Go Bread! Good luck with the oven spring! — actually, any spring at this point would be welcome to many.

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    banditqueen says:

    @germy: But he had to fire all the ‘undocumenteds’ for the emergency :(

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    columbusqueen says:

    @jl: Yeah, I know, but it does take a certain temperament to get rid of two wives via the ax.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    “There’s an old member just popped by who would like to join you today, Mr. Trump.”

    “What’s his name?”

    “Mueller. Bob Mueller.”

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    debbie says:


    I saw it and took it to be a golfing cap and golfing gloves. You know how you sometimes strew your things around the room as you walk through on your way to the omelette bar. Someone’s marking their territory. //

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    Mary G says:

    Wow, I didn’t think it was him either when I first saw it; seemed too skinny. Drat.

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    scav says:

    Wait a minute, omelettes, ain’t those foreign Frenchy foods?! Anybody check on individual one’s mustard?

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    chris says:

    Huh, Heather Nauert withdraws from consideration as UN ambassador to spend more time with her family, etc. dog save us from whoever is next. (Statement attached to tweet.)

    Nauert withdraws— Betsy Klein (@betsy_klein) 17 February 2019

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    germy says:

    @jl: @Another Scott: Fields hated FDR (called him “old gumlegs”) and when he died his will provided small amounts for family members and friends with the $800,000 remainder of his estate being left to establish “The W. C. Fields College for White Orphan Boys and Girls Where No Religion of Any Kind is Ever to be Taught.”

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    Mary G says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Paywall {{pouty emoji}}

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    @scav: don’t worry, Trump made sure to call it a Freedom Egg Pancake.

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    jl says:

    @Mary G: ” I didn’t think it was him either when I first saw it; seemed too skinny. Drat.”

    I’ve seen pix of William Howard Taft, and you, Mr. Trump, are no William Howard Taft.

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    Mary G says:

    @chris: Looking forward to the leak of whatever horrible skeleton in her closet made her fail Twitler’s security check/Senate confirmation.

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    Mary G says:

    Good news the media is ignoring:

    THEY DID IT!!! Nevada @MomsDemand volunteers – who have been working on background checks legislation in the state since 2013 – stood with Gov. @SteveSisolak on Friday as he signed the #SB143 into law. Nevada is the 20th state to #UpdateBackgroundChecks. #nvleg— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) February 17, 2019

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    @Major Major Major Major: I have tried it out before. I prefer Mark Bittman’s no-knead bread recipe better, it is less work and yields a better crumb.

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    germy says:

    @Mary G: I honestly thought Heather Nauert had been hired to be his communications director or something. Was that some other Fox News lady?

    Things are happening too fast in this administration. I can’t keep up.

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    sm*t cl*de says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    don’t worry, Trump made sure to call it a Freedom Egg Pancake

    Hold the yolk. Whites only.

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    scav says:

    @Mary G: Seems to be Hertzberg’s 5 minute a day bread — here’s a different link to a master recipe that should be similar.

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    Yarrow says:

    I’m not convinced that’s him. That man’s hands are seem too big to be Trump.

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    banditqueen says:

    Well, it’s politico, but apparently Wilmer the First (WtF) has made his very own video to announce his [surprise!] run for president. I don’t like him and I don’t like his base much either.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    He’s not wearing body armor in that photo.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @germy: this job was going to be a promotion from State Dept press secretary, or the equivalent

    It’s kind of fascinating that trump is able to find so many people willing to accept jobs that they are laughably unqualified for. Jared’s a pretty obvious case of trust-fund-baby syndrome, and Ben Carson’s elevator stops about half way to the top floor, but there seems to be an endless supply of deluded people willing to take these jobs. if somebody called me up and asked me to be their lawyer or doctor because they thought I look the part, not only would I not take the job, I’d think they were bonkers for asking

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    sm*t cl*de says:


    Dolphins Seem to Use Toxic Pufferfish to Get High
    The dolphins’ expert, deliberate handling of the terrorized puffer fish implies that this is not their first time at the hallucinogenic rodeo

    Puffer fish always have the expression of D’nesh D’Souza, but that indignant dolphin-molested puffer is more D’Souzish than most.

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    scav says:

    @schrodingers_cat: My standard loaf is variations upon Forkish’s Saturday Loaf (which does involve folding) but my really simple version is Cook’s Illustrated — have you tried it? I like the added tang from the beer + vinegar.

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    germy says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He’s not wearing body armor in that photo.

    He’s among friends.

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    germy says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Most of these people don’t even look the part.

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    zhena gogolia says:


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    Yarrow says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I think that’s the point. This man looks much thinner than Trump usually does and the suggestion is that the body armor must really make him look fat.

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    JoyceH says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    The place looks shabby, like it hasn’t been redecorated in decades. That’s no way to run a hotel.

    I was all, I’ve been there! But I was thinking of a small town Midwestern Holiday Inn (classiest joint in town!) circa 1969.

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    jl says:

    @Yarrow: ” That man’s hands are seem too big to be Trump. ”
    I think you judge the size of a human being’s hand by its proportion to the face from hairline to chin. Is the length about same as the face, longer, or significantly shorter? About the same is normal.

    I think I learned me that in some art class at kollej.

    Anyway, looks like Trump to me.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @banditqueen: and one of his dumbest supporters is already sounding Bernie-or-Bust

    RoseAnn DeMoro @ RoseAnnDeMoro
    Dear Bernie Supporters:
    I want #Bernie2020 to announce today obviously. The #DNC does not. They are scrambling like crazy to try to shore up every penny and endorsement for their once again anointed and disliked candidate.
    It’s like watching a bad rerun

    I almost joined twitter to post this at her

    OAKLAND — As Washington grapples with health care policy again, the head of the 185,000-member National Nurses United is turning her attention to a seemingly unlikely advocate for a single-payer system. “The one I’m counting on the most is Trump,” RoseAnn DeMoro said,…
    “He’s a businessman, he has an international perspective — and his wife comes from a country where they have single payer,’’ said DeMoro, who also is an AFL-CIO national vice president and executive board member. “I think that Donald Trump is not about either party; he’s about something very different. He’s the one who can actually rise above this and do what’s right, and he knows as a businessman, it’s the most cost effective,’’ she said.

    (link button is borked again)

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    Bread update

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @germy: He’s among people shelling out $200K per yer for access. Including a bunch of not for cover foreign intelligence assets who have joined his clubs since he got elected. Ike Perlmutter works for the Israelis, running Marvel’s tv section is just a hobby.

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    Yarrow says:

    Also, if you do an image search for Trump playing golf there are a bunch of photos. In all of them his hair is visible when he’s wearing the hat. Both in front and across the top of his ear and certainly behind his ear and down toward his neck. This guy doesn’t have that hair.

    In all the photos of Trump playing golf he’s a lot heavier than this guy.

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    Aleta says:

    Randy Rainbow @RandyRainbow

    After @carmen_cusack’s first show at @54Below:
    “Randy, there are two fans here who would like to meet you…”
    😶 🤭 😳 😭 😭 😭 😭

    Last night, Steve Martin told me he’d been showing Martin Short my videos on the car ride over. This isn’t so much a humble brag as it is a fucking brag.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That woman just ain’t right. Also, bless her heart!

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    Raven says:

    We had a long day of fishing. We left at 5:30 am and went offshore for five hours with little luck. We came back in and fished the Sebastian River until mid afternoon with similar results. I came back to the dive motel and went down and surf fished until dark. We’re going to do it again at dawn!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yarrow: The White House press office has been touching up photos of him they release, so it’s possible that this is photoshopped.

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    hotshoe says:

    have NPR’s First Listen today and am loving Our Native Daughters — Rhiannon Giddens, Amythyst Kiah, Allison Russell and Leyla McCalla — NPR First Listen

    link doesn’t work for me in old Safari but does work in Firefox. Give it a try

    Probably available for a week from date they feature (Feb 14) so … maybe available till the 21st?

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    Baud says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I want to like nurses, but she makes it hard.

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    germy says:

    Bernie pre-recording an announcement video reminds me of when the Beatles got tired of touring, and their management would just send Ed Sullivan a film clip.

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    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Getting a job you’re not qualified for would also be stressful. Unless maybe you don’t know you’re doing a crap job, I guess. Dunning-Krueger effect in operation.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Baud: my father having been in and out of the hospital for the last couple of years, I’m a devoted fan of good nurses, but that one….

    I also learned today from rose twitter that Elizabeth Warren is a corrupt, corporate centrist, for saying M4A is a long term goal

    Steadman™ @ AsteadWesley
    Great audience ? about M4A: public option/eliminating private insurance?
    – Fight to preserve ACA against Republicans. “That’s job #1.”
    – Job #2: Make the changes we can make fast. lower drug pricing/level private insurance playing field
    — long term: MFA

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    Yarrow says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I guess it depends who J.D. Durkin’s source is.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The White House press office has been touching up photos of him they release, so it’s possible almost guaranteed that this is photoshopped.

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    JoyceH says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The White House press office has been touching up photos of him they release, so it’s possible that this is photoshopped.

    This wasn’t from the WH press office. This was someone in the club, snapping a pic with cellphone and posting it to the internet. You think the White House comms shop wants to emphasize that Trump is on vacation and golfing when there’s a CRISIS on our border?

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    Eric S. says:

    WHY IS THERE KETCHUP AT AN OMELETTE BAR?!?!???!!!1?!!one!!!?

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    Yarrow says:

    absolutely packed house for Rep. @TulsiGabbard at the True Brew Barista in Concord, NH:— J.D. Durkin (@jiveDurkey) February 16, 2019

    Oh, great.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chris: @Mary G: @germy: @Jim, Foolish Literalist: She couldn’t pass the background check. Which makes you wonder how she was able to serve as the State Department spokesperson.

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    Baud says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: We’ll hear how she was a Republican in the 1990s soon enough.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Yarrow: that’s an unpleasant surprise, I wouldn’t have thought that many people knew who the hell she was, much less would go out to hear her

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yarrow: The don’t let the White House press pool accompany him to his golf clubs. So the photo had to be provided by the White House comms staffer who was with him.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    I am second to no-one in my love of tomato ketchup. I use it on fry ups and fish and chips but on an omelette? Culinary heresy!

    Also, I’ve seen plenty of men his age presenting with that sort of girth. If Adam’s right about the bullet proof vest, didn’t Bush II and Obama wear one because I don’t remember either of them looking as bloated as Trump has recently.

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    @scav: I have tried it. I like Bittman’s version better, less fussy.

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    jl says:

    @Yarrow: ” In all the photos of Trump playing golf he’s a lot heavier than this guy. ”
    Hasn’t eaten the deluxe ketchup and mayo triple cheese filled egg pancake yet.

    Or maybe QAnon will reveal that a Trump body double goes to the golf courses, while Trump hisself stays HARD AT WORK, for AMERICA, at the WH.

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    If you ask me, the photo of the thinner T was taken several years ago. Someone should go to that golf club and see if it still has the same furniture and decor that it does in this photo.

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    @Yarrow: This is not a recent photo.

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    NotMax says:


    Trivia: How large did Henry VIII become?

    …Every day, Henry would enjoy 13 dishes mainly consisting of meat like pork, game, rabbit and even peacocks and swans. He would also glug down 70 pints of ale a week, averaging 5,000 calories a day.

    Henry’s earlier set of armour indicates a weight of around 82 to 91 kilograms (180 to 200 pounds), with a waist measurement of 86 to 91 centimetres (34 to 36 inches). But his very last set of armour showed a waist measurement of a massive 147 to 152 centimetres (58 to 60 inches), meaning the infamous king would have weighed approximately 136 to 145 kilograms (300 to 320 pounds). Source

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    germy says:

    “As your Commander in Chief, I will end these regime-change wars,” Rep. Tulsi Gabbard says to thunderous applause from the New Hampshire crowd in Concord:— J.D. Durkin (@jiveDurkey) February 16, 2019

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    debbie says:


    Places like that rarely update the furnishings.

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    @germy: I’m telling y’all, she might end up being more than just a gadfly… alas.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Spent the better part of the afternoon/early evening at Elizabeth Warren’s rally in Lawrenceville (Gwinnett County), GA.

    Got there about 90 minutes in advance, as I had signed up to volunteer for the event. I ended up being the greeter once the doors opened, and handing out numbered tickets to anyone who wanted the opportunity to ask the Senator a question.

    (One of the people attending was my gal Carolyn Bourdeaux, once and future Congressional candidate for GA-07 CD. She claimed to recognize me from her 2018 campaign, but that may have just been skillful politicking.)

    As for attendance (sorry, I totally suck at estimating crowd sizes), it wasn’t a huge overflow crowd, but it comfortably filled the gym at one of the largest high schools in the region. And it was wonderfully diverse: lots of POC (AA, South Asian, East Asian), several women in hijab, lots of super-excited (and absolutely adorable) little kids. Nice mix.

    It was a warmish day (rain had been predicted), and inside the gym it was hotter than the hinges of Hades. One person even fainted before the program started.

    Senator Professor Warren is very engaging as a speaker. We’re all familiar with her bio and standard policy points, but the way she weaves them together — and her ease in fielding questions — is pretty impressive. I still plan to keep an open mind until the early debates at least, and I suspect I may end up throwing primary support to a different candidate, but I’m truly pleased that SPW is in the mix, that her policy proposals will be taken seriously, and that she’ll be part of our national leadership in some capacity for, I hope, years to come.

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    Baud says:



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    Yarrow says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Why couldn’t some random person at the golf club take the photo and text it to the reporter guy? Not saying that’s what happened but why couldn’t it happen?

    @schrodingers_cat: That’s a good suggestion. The poster on the wall is from a campaign ten years ago. Wouldn’t they have replaced it with something from his presidency or at least his campaign? Maybe it is an old photo. Someone should be able to do an image search on the omelette guy too.

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    Baud says:

    @Major Major Major Major: We deserve what we get.

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    banditqueen says:

    It’s weirdly interesting about Wilmer the First (WtF) getting his preznit grift on again, he just cannot be taken seriously. He’s still an “I”–in so many ways–but his repeat grand entrance hasn’t generated the enthusiasm/curiosity that the D candidates have. He has nothing new or realistic to offer, and no record to run on. Boo WtF and his base.

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    columbusqueen says:

    @NotMax: I remember seeing that last suit of armor at the Tower–we’re talking scary big, by God. He could have killed someone just by falling on them. One wonders how poor Catherine Parr dealt with the fat.

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    Ruckus says:

    This is the quality of interior design and workmanship you get when you’ve got a rep for stiffing your contractors.

    That place does look like a shithole.
    But then look who is the owner.
    I think I figured out why he’s so pissed and stupid all the time. So much crap comes out of his mouth, the entire world must smell like shit to him.

    Remember he did say the “emergency” was unnecessary so obviously he doesn’t need to stay in DC to insure that everything gets completely fucked up. And besides he hires the best fuckups ever so the total destruction of the government is assured.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: why didn’t you tell me that this was happening today?

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    satby says:

    @Yarrow: so can somebody explain how body armor makes his neck and face fat? Because this guy doesn’t look like Drumpf to me either. He resembles him, but his face and neck look too thin too.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @jl: I saw a QAnon billboard on I-75 between Atlanta and Chattanooga. I thought it odd, but a nice respite from all the Jesusy ones.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: here’s a good thread, with a couple of pictures. Was this the same rally you attended, Lawrenceville?

    Steadman™ @ AsteadWesley
    In GA, Warren goes big on voter suppression
    — calls for constituonal amendment to affirm every citizens right to vote
    — big cheers for ending Citizens United and for Green New Deal
    — Unions built America’s middle class and unions will rebuild it,” she says to big applause

    Probably most enthusiastic crowd I’ve seen for her. Organic “Warren” chants breaking out. Standing ovations. Whole deal
    Campaign says crowd size estimate is 1,100

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    Tazj says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: She’s not a nurse. Although she’s been a labor organizer for nurses her educational background is in women’s studies and sociology.
    I don’t mean to be picky correcting you guys, I just happen to look it up because I worked as nurse and I was curious about her work history and wondered why she was such an enthusiastic supporter of his.

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    tobie says:

    @germy: We’ve seen other photos of him on the golf course where he looks significantly fatter. My bet is that this is someone doing a spoof of him. (Wishful thinking maybe!) Every picture I’ve seen of Mar-a-Lago has tons of gilt. This does not. It’s too understated to be Trump’s. The air of neglect and age, though, is definitely in keeping with his properties. I think I’ve used up my catty quotient for the day with this.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Why would I have even thought you would be in the ATL today?

    Besides, it’s not my job.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Eric S.:
    I refer you to the owner of the establishment. He likes McDs. Not just tolerates it because it’s cheap and available. He likes it. I will also refer you to my comment at @ 113, So much crap comes out of his mouth, the entire world must smell like shit to him. It wouldn’t taste any better, so you might as well put catsoup on it.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    That was the one!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Tazj: don’t mean to be picky correcting you guys,

    No worries here. That’s interesting to know. I remember when she came out for Himself– before I knew they were both doo-fucking-lally– thinking she was a nurse gave her more credibility to me

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    Yarrow says:

    I’ve found a photo of that room. It’s the Grill Room at his golf club. The furniture is the same and the carpet is the same. Here’s the photo but I’m not going to make it a link–you can copy and paste. It’s from the website of his golf club, so I’d guess it’s somewhat current. In the photo in the tweet you can see the reflection of the taller bar and the photos above it and the beginning of the curved windows.

    Edit: Ugh. It made it a link. Sorry about that.

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    Baud says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    @Tazj: don’t mean to be picky correcting you guys,

    No worries here. 

    Well, I’m deeply offended.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: not your job? You were a greeter!

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    Tazj says:

    @Baud: Well, you should be. ;)
    I think I remember her as being very anti-ACA and I thought a nurse should be more pragmatic about healthcare.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    In GA, Warren goes big on voter suppression
    — calls for constituonal amendment to affirm every citizens right to vote
    — big cheers for ending Citizens United and for Green New Deal
    — Unions built America’s middle class and unions will rebuild it,” she says to big applause

    Yes, I should have said how feisty and supportive the crowd was. Even I — and JPL, Karen in Georgia, and Steve in the ATL will all affirm that I am nothing if not a quiet and demure person — found myself leaping to my feet, screaming “Yes MA’AM!!”, and clapping my hands raw. Georgia is definitely trending blue-purple, and it is a lovely thing to see.

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    satby says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: all my quiet and demure friends jump out of airplanes.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: might be blue now if black people were allowed to vote!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Do you think, if she goes for it, Stacy Abrams has a shot at the upcoming Senate seat (Isaakson’s at the moment, I think?)? That’s a campaign I will support all I can. I’m also very impressed by Jaime Harrison in SC. I don’t know if he’s got a real chance, but I will do all I can to help him make Lindsey Graham sweat and spend money.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I deal with AFL-CIO people almost every week. I’ll start asking them why a trump supporter has two high level positions with them.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: she can win, if black people are allowed to vote. Which is an uphill battle here in the not quite reconstructed South.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @columbusqueen: I understand that by the time he married her he was more interested in companionship than anything more energetic. :)

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    Baud says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Union members were for Trump more than they have been for the average Republican candidate, weren’t they?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Cool, though that article is two years old. Checked Wiki, it says she still has both positions

    @Steve in the ATL: god damn national disgrace. IF that asshole Schultz (or for that matter Tom Steyer) really want to defend democracy, they ought to turn firehoses of cash on voting rights.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    not your job? You were a greeter!

    Greeters greet the people who have enough initiative to show up on their own without having to have their hands held. Greeters are not responsible for identifying the people they might like to greet. Greeters smile welcomingly at those who NEVERTHELESS PERSISTED in making note of an event’s date, time, and place and signing up to attend. Greeters in the ATL are especially salty on these points.

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    Mary G says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think it’s Perdue, the rich guy who came in on the TP wave and is famous for snatching a college student’s phone for asking uppity questions. He beat Michele Nunn in 2014, but I think Stacey can do a lot with his biography (from Wikipedia):

    David Perdue started his business career with more than a decade as a management consultant. In 1992 he became a VP at Sara Lee Corporation. During the next decade, he worked with Haggar Clothing, and Reebok. He was unable to correct problems at Pillowtex, which he joined in 2002, leaving after nine months with a large buyout. Perdue next worked for Dollar General, where he did achieve a turnaround, and later for the Gujarat Heavy Chemicals Ltd., whose interests in India included textile mills. Before entering politics, Perdue set up a global trading firm in Atlanta, Georgia.

    His cousin is the Ag Sec now.

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    Mary G says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I love you, salty woman! Sounds like a blast. EW has been growing on me.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s Perdue, and you bet she could! She’s going to be working on voter suppression for a while however there’s nothing keeping her from getting in by this time next year.

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    tobie says:

    @Baud: Proof positive, yet again, that 2016 was about saying F.U. to the establishment, and the establishment meant not wealthy people but incumbents and/or people with expertise.

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    Baud says:


    and the establishment meant not wealthy people but incumbents and/or people with expertise.

    Also, decent people and non-white-males.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: If you’re gonna photoshop, then why not fix the blotch on his face?

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Yarrow: Everyone loves a freakshow.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Do you think, if she goes for it, Stacy Abrams has a shot at the upcoming Senate seat (Isaakson’s at the moment, I think?)? That’s a campaign I will support all I can.

    The GA Senate seat in contention in 2020 is David Perdue’s, not Johnny Isakson’s (he’s up in 2022). And yes, I absolutely believe Stacey can and will defeat him.


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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    If you haven’t seen the video of Angela Merkel mocking trump at the Munich Security conference, here’s the best part

    Amee Vanderpool @ girlsreallyrule
    I trimmed down this video of Ivanka looking as pissed as she’s capable of looking so you can just run it on a loop.

    Personally, I think Grifter Princess looks more confused than angry. “But… but…. that’s my daddy!”

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    SiubhanDuinne says:



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    plato says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Plastic surgery in full flow.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Eric S.:

    WHY IS THERE KETCHUP AT AN OMELETTE BAR?!?!???!!!1?!!one!!!?

    InoRITE? RITE?!?!??

    Tabasco or go the fuck home.

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    debbie says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Her face looks too tight to make any kind of expression. She must have had work done recently.

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    plato says:

    It's rare to see a national emergency declared by a national emergency.— God (@TheTweetOfGod) February 15, 2019

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    Omnes Omnibus says:


    Tabasco or go the fuck home.

    Quiet and demure? Not that I disagree with you.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    all my quiet and demure friends jump out of airplanes.


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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: if I only I had been following a left wing political blog in which politically active people within a couple of miles of me post about upcoming political events that might be of interest to fellow posters…

    Ah well—salty is fine, as long as it’s pink Himalayan

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Baud: yes, which is way effed up

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    RSA says:

    A tan clothing ensemble. How un-Presidential.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: fuck that shit. Tony Chachere’s Creole Seasoning or GTFO!

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    Eric S. says:

    @Raven: Sounds like a near perfect day. Sorry for the lack of fish.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Steve in the ATL: “Great on everything.”

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    might be blue now if black people were allowed to vote!

    This is true.

    All the other stuff — economic inequity, gun safety, health care, immigration reform, climate change, et cetera et cetera and so forth — means very little if a substantial part of our population is restricted from officially expressing their opinions on these issues.

    IMO, the right and ability to cast a vote, unimpeded, is as fundamental to a functioning society/democracy as basic literacy and numeracy.

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    @Steve in the ATL: Careful Steve, remember Subaru Diane sometimes goes by Mob Enforcer.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @Yarrow: Good detective work — as shabby as the place looks in the close-up of the omlette bar, it’s definitely the same room.

    But I remain unconvinced that the man in beige is Trump for all the reasons others have already listed. Lots of old men look like that, it is a very generic look.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Of all the chain restaurants in all the strip malls in all the suburbs ….

    Oh well, we’ll always have McMegan.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Checked Wiki, it says she still has both positions

    Yoga instructor?

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    Uncle Omar says:

    @Ohio Mom: Also, go to the google machine and google up “Donald Trump plays golf with Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus.” The resulting photo, twittlerated by Comrade Trumpov was taken less than a month ago. Either the dipstick at the omelet bar isn’t Comrade Trumpov or he’s dropped about 30 pounds in less than a month or it is an extremely old photo.

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    Duane says:

    @satby: You must lose a lot of friends that way.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Tony Chachere’s Creole Seasoning or GTFO!

    Elitist much? I suppose you’ll be calling for arugula and stone-ground mustard next.*

    *(Yes, I am aware that both references are hopelessly antiquated, ca. 2008, but this is, after all, the South.)

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    @SiubhanDuinne: Tabasco, should be ashamed to call itself hot sauce, too little heat and too much vinegar.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Uncle Omar:

    go to the google machine and google up “Donald Trump plays golf with Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus.”

    No, No fucking way. You can’t make me.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @schrodingers_cat: I am looking at a bottle of it right now. It does not call itself hot sauce. The term it uses is pepper sauce.

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    sukabi says:

    @Adam L Silverman: the body language and clothes are wrong.

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    TS (the original) says:

    @Adam L Silverman: But it’s the family needs her – funny how the family can cope until something “not quite right” turns up. So much for folks on twitter saying she realised she couldn’t do the job. trump minions always believe they can do the job – they believe trump is doing his job.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: she once got busy in a Burger King bathroom

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Smoke a weed, save a tiger.

    I’m on it. Tigers can thank me later.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Steve in the ATL: She’s crazy. Allow her to amaze thee.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Tabasco, should be ashamed to call itself hot sauce, too little heat and too much vinegar.

    You are quite right. I’ll still take it over Heinz Fucking Ketchup eight days out of seven. Especially on an omelette.

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    Gvg says:

    Doesn’t look like Trump at all to me.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: only republicans eat ketchup with eggs.

    *shutters* (h/t corner stone)

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    she once got busy in a Burger King bathroom


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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    She couldn’t pass the background check.

    Rule #3 of the D.J. Trump Administration [1] forces me to wonder whether the illegal nanny was convenient cover for something worse.
    Are the bets active yet on who’s next in line? Stephen Miller? Jeanine Pirro? Ivanka? (jokes, maybe. :-)
    [1] It is always worse when one looks deeper.

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    tobie says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @debbie: Can someone explain why Ivanka Trump can’t wear her headset on her head like everyone else? Is she afraid of mussing up her heavily hair-sprayed hair–which is as wooden as every other aspect of her appearance?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    She’s crazy. Allow her to amaze thee

    There, that’s better.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Friends don’t let friends ….

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    @SiubhanDuinne: I do like ketchup with the Indian style omlet that I make (its more like a flat pancake, with red onion, cilantro and a Thai bird chili). I use Hunt’s ketchup made with cane sugar and add my own chili-garlic sauce for an extra kick.

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    waratah says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I am a tobasco woman too. Breakfast, oyster soup, potato soup. Has a unique flavor and right amount of heat.

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    Eric S. says:

    @schrodingers_cat: while I agree with your Tobasco assessment one much acknowledge its vast superiority over Heinz

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    Duane says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Well at least you didn’t eat there, right?

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    Another Scott says:

    @schrodingers_cat: I didn’t really trust that the twitter picture was legit, either. Why would someone that few have ever heard of have received it?

    I just enlarged it. The certificate on the wall says “2010”.

    Good catch!

    [eta:] I was thinking it was some sort of liquor license, but I suppose it was some sort of other thing. So, not dispositive yet.


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    Julia Grey says:

    @columbusqueen: “@jl: Yeah, I know, but it does take a certain temperament to get rid of two wives via the ax.”

    Catherine Paar (#6) was going to be the third, but luckily he died just in time.

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    Mike J says:

    @Steve in the ATL: I love the fact that this song was banned all over the place when it came out, and on youtube they bleep the words “Burger King”.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    THat sounds delicious, I must say! But I must also say that your description of the red stuff sounds very far removed from bog-standard Heinz’ Ketchup.

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    Eric S. says:

    @plato: Sign me up!

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I deal with AFL-CIO people almost every week. I’ll start asking them why a Individual-1 supporter has two high level positions with them.


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    @SiubhanDuinne: I am not a fan of Heinz ketchup.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: yup. Pinky and the Brain swear!

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Mike J: I know, right?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I am so ignorant of so much of normal pop culture. Serves me bleedin’ well right for spending all that time on operas and string quartets.


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    plato says:

    @tobie: Afraid of poor people’s cooties.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Trump is such a craven chickenshit coward, he probably wears two Kevlar vests when going out in public and just one when inside the White House.

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    Darkrose says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Do you play Fallen London as well? I need more acquaintances to send gifts to. 😄

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: That’s just Steve in the ATL and Omnes showing musical solidarity is all. Expecting it to go over the head of yacht rock listeners with pantsuits and security clearances.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Julia Grey:

    Bluff King Hal was full of beans,
    He married half a dozen queens.
    For three called Kate they cried the banns,
    And one called Jane, and a couple of Annes.

    [snipping verses about Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Jane Seymour, Anne of Cleves, and Katharine Howard, and jumping directly to:]

    Sixth and last was Catherine Parr,
    Sixth and last and luckiest far,
    For this time it was Henry who
    Hopped the twig, and a good job too.

    From memory. By Herbert and Eleanor Farjeon. I once could recite all seven verses, and probably still could if suitably prompted.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: your homework is to listen to the greatest rap album ever, “Straight Outta Compton”, by some charming young men known as NWA, which stands for “African Americans with attitude”

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    Another Scott says:

    @Another Scott: He had a big gut in 2010 too – e.g. in Bedminster in 2010, so it’s hard to tell. (He’s sucking his gut in in the first picture, but letting it all relax in the following ones…) Even his neck is kinda similar.

    It would be easy for someone to photoshop out the golf course logo and replace it with “USA” on the red cap.


    (“Who has spent entirely too much time on this.”)

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    plato says:

    Europeans clapped harder for uncle Joe.

    How different then when the veteran Democratic politician and former Vice-President Joe Biden came to the podium.

    He was introduced by an almost gushing Nicholas Burns – the former senior US diplomat (and no supporter of Mr Trump) – who mused (to rapturous applause) on how nice it would be if the US had a leader who, “rather than embracing Kim Jong-un or Victor Orban would have embraced our true friend Angela Merkel”.

    Listening to Mr Biden’s speech, I searched for hints as to whether he would make a run for the White House. He was certainly a candidate for many people in the room.

    In a blunt reference to President Trump, he said: “Leadership in the absence of people who are with you is not leadership.” He spoke of a “struggle for America’s soul”.

    The majority of Americans wanted the US to take an active role in world affairs, he insisted. “This too shall pass,” he asserted, “We will be back.”

    Was that the hint? Mr Biden is not going to announce his presidential bid in Munich, but if the applause was anything to go by, he would clearly be the Europeans’ favourite over Mr Trump.

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    Mary G says:

    @plato: WaPo’s story cracked me up; it looks like it was pretty bad for the administration:

    MUNICH — An annual security conference where Western allies have long forged united fronts erupted Saturday into a full-scale assault on the Trump administration’s foreign policy. European leaders, would-be Democratic challengers and even the president’s Republican backers took the floor to rebuke the president’s go-it-alone approach.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel — habitually cautious about provoking Trump — led the charge, unleashing a stinging, point-by-point takedown of the administration’s tendency to treat its allies as adversaries.

    List of many complaints, then:

    The crowd gave the German chancellor an extended standing ovation — a rare display at the normally button-down Munich Security Conference. The customarily reserved Merkel beamed as she took her seat. Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and a top adviser, looked on from the crowd, stone-faced.

    Pence was next; I’ve seen several people on Twitter saying nobody clapped for him; WaPo is diplomatic, saying he

    was met with only tepid applause — and some incredulous looks — when he proclaimed Trump “the leader of the free world.”

    ETA: so much winning!

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    japa21 says:

    @Julia Grey: My one claim to royalty is being related to Catherine Parr.

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    Duane says:

    @plato: The list of Europeans’ favourite over Trump is really long.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Hey, I didn’t throw you under the yacht rock bus.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Do you have an opinion on Nando’s Extra Hot Peri-Peri Sauce?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Another Scott: (

    “Who has spent entirely too much time on this.”)

    We were preparing for the intervention.

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    plato says:

    The federal budget deficit running over 40% higher than last year, PBS reports.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 17, 2019

    so much winning.

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    plato says:

    Barr has spent a lifetime putting GOP before country, pardoning GOP criminals in Iran-Contra. He's already cast doubt on the Mueller probe's legitimacy. Barr's children are installed in the Trump admin, part of a broader pattern of nepotistic corruption. Your vote was terrible.— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) February 17, 2019

    But, but, barr gave me his word that he will protect mueller.

    I don’t see how doug jones sees this as a win for him when he is up for reelection.

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    smintheus says:

    What filthy and cheap looking frying pans.

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    Kay says:

    @Mary G:

    Sheldon Whitehouse
    ‏Verified account
    2h2 hours ago
    I was there. The silence was deafening.

    They’re really bizarre people. Why did Pence do that ridiculous, awards show lead-up? It’s like they aren’t confident people will treat Trump like the president unless they’re constantly relying on the title to lend him legitimacy. It’s been years now. That’s the problem, actually. No one has any illusions about him.

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    Redshift says:

    @Mary G: I’ve heard several quotes on BBC in the past few days from Pence and Bolton (and maybe others) saying, pretty much in so many words, everyone should drop out of the terrible Iran deal or else you’re being divisive!

    That would be the deal the Trump Administration dropped out of against the wishes of everyone else.

    I’m having a hard time seeing how anyone could expect that to be convincing. Okay, maybe Pence is that stupid…

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    Ninedragonspot says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: hard to go wrong spending time with string quartets. A night at the opera is more dicey – sometimes the home team wins, sometimes they get clobbered.

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    Kay says:

    @Mary G:

    Sarah Sanders does the same thing. “He’s the president“, in that phony offended way. Yeah, Sarah, you probably shouldn’t have to pull rank constantly when he’s the president. Why doesn’t anyone respect him unless they’re reminded of who he is and ordered to?

    It’s just demands, demands, demands. They’re a bottomless pit . “Respect us!” No. I don’t think so.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Kay: Pence is the ultimate Trump sycophant. Even George Will came up with an expression to prove how pathetically servile he is. Would need to Google it if it was earlier in the night.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    That fat old man isn’t Trump. He’s not fat enough, that’s not a MAGA trucker hat on his head, his face doesn’t look jowly like Trump’s.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I appreciate that, and I expect you remember how much the pantsuits and security clearances comment stings. (Which for those who don’t recall Omnes didn’t make either). Not that I’d ever hold a grudge.

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    Kay says:

    @Mike in NC:

    The whole administration rests on grievance. Once again, they have not been respected! Now they’ll have to petulantly demand it again!That isn’t how this works. You don’t demand it and then people have a duty to deliver it, on cue.

    He uses that title like a crutch. It’s been propping him up since he was elected, and they turn to it again and again when the man himself falls short. Maybe he should think about earning someone’s respect. The title seems to have lost its magical properties.

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    hotshoe says:

    Grocery Outlet near here has new big bottles of Nando’s peri-peri sauce.

    Any of y’all hot-sauce lovers tried it? Like it? Worth some pennies to pay for it?

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    Ruckus says:


    he would clearly be the Europeans’ favourite over Mr Trump.

    In that room a potted plant could be construed to be their favorite over shit for brains. Because a potted plant would still be a better person

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Mike in NC: a George Will Pence google suggests oleaginous

    I keep looking back at the picture… it’s trump’s face, but where’s his hair? Also, the red hat, according to the fat old racist’s old racist butler, means The Beast is in a bad mood

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    Mary G says:

    @Kay: Yeah, well I respect the office, but its holder is quite another matter. WaPo editorial board feels the same way: Pompeo and Pence send a poor message with their bumbling tour of Europe

    But the broad message of the week is that the Trump administration is aligning itself with those European forces that flout liberal values while denigrating allies that for 75 years have supported U.S. global leadership. It should surprise no one when the consequences include Washington’s failure to attract support for its major initiatives.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    Trump doesn’t just look thinner in this picture, he also looks a bit weasley. What do you want to bet the sleeves, shoulders and chest of his suite jackets are padded to make him looking more muscular than he really is?

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    divF says:

    If anyone is still here … I it is pretty definitely not trump. The left ear of this guy is quite different from Trump’s left ear in the photo from his golf game with Tiger and Jack.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    So yesterday, when trump said that Shinzo Abe had nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize with a beautiful letter?

    Jesse Johnson @ jljzen
    So apparently the Trump administration unofficially asked Abe to submit the documents necessary to nominate the US president for the Nobel Peace Prize, per Asahi.

    the constant, water-torture like embarrassment as this buffoon makes our whole country look dumber and dumberer by the day

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    tobie says:

    @divF: That’s some sleuthing. Thanks for comparing features. I didn’t have the stomach for it but am grateful to everyone on this thread who looked at close-ups of this photo and compared it to other ones. You folks have strong constitutions.

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    Plato says:

    Can we just give Trump a Snapple bottle cap, tell him it's the Nobel Peace Prize, and be done with all this shit?— Charlotte Clymer🏳️‍🌈 (@cmclymer) February 15, 2019

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    Plato says:

    "Obama told me he was planning a VERY BIG WAR ON NORTH KOREA!- Japan nominated me for a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!- I have my own SECRET STATS!- I DON'T KNOW ANN COULTER & haven't spoken to her over a year!" It would be funnier if he didn't have the nuclear codes.— Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself) February 17, 2019

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    I DON’T KNOW ANN COULTER & haven’t spoken to her over a year!

    I usually don’t speak to people I don’t know, I’m funny that way.

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    Aleta says:

    Photo 17/17 People stand on the sidewalk and watch President Donald Trump ride by in the presidential limo in West Palm Beach, Florida, February 16, 2019 on his way back to Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach. []


    (If you look, I suggest you skip to the bottom of the page, then scroll up. This avoids the other photos.)

    Hannah Morse @mannahhorse
    Lots of folks out to see @realDT motorcade along Southern Boulevard before the bridge.

    Note: Most of these people are just walking along the sidewalk or being held up to let the motorcade pass. Only at the end is there a very small gaggle.

    Btw, this reporter for the Palm Beach Post who covered him today (Hannah Morse) also tweeted out that photo of the Egg Man in the red USA hat as legit.
    And there’s another photo of him inside the limo arriving at the course; it’s dark but looks like he’s wearing the same gray clothes, same hat as the Egg Man.

    Though it could be his kagemusha, I’m gonna agree with @Enhanced Voting Techniques: and Adam: The photos we’re used to are of him in padded outfits (hair pads too), and ones from the WH may be doctored.

    He’s a shambles here, the weak little confused man behind the great Oz. (Whoever took this photo was unauthorized and out to get him.) (Mellie is that you? No?)

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    Aleta says:

    @Plato: Tell him he’s to receive the peace prize and the ceremony in Fla (national emergency protocol) and must wait there inside locked gates until the entire Nobel Committee and royal audience clear ICE.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Do you have an opinion on Nando’s Extra Hot Peri-Peri Sauce?

    I certainly do. Great Stuff, use it a lot.

    ETA: IIRC it’s a Portugese concoction..?!

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    Mary G says:

    Nobody is probably still up, but I just saw on Twitter that the head of the Belgian counter intelligence department has been arrested on suspicion of spying for Russia. Wow.

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    NobodySpecial says:

    @Steve in the ATL: I’m sure you meant to type, “It Take A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back” by Public Enemy there.

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    Elliott Gorelick says:

    @Baud: She is not and never was a nurse.

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    evodevo says:

    @divF: This. In law enforcement, they have been teaching for years – “look at the ears” – you can’t disguise or change them quickly – takes work that most people don’t think of, and ears are almost as individual as fingerprints lol

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    Don K says:


    That was my thought – I’ve seen nicer looking breakfast rooms at Courtyards or Hamptons.

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    Bess says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Look at the pics of Trump with Tiger and the amount of hair poking out from under his cap.

    Did someone paste Trump’s face on another person’s body? Someone with good Photoshop skills should be able to tell.

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    @Amir Khalid:I have never tasted it, so I have no opinion.

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