REPOST: Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: The GOP Rushes to Reclaim Its ‘Most Racist’ Crown

This is a FYWP test — some commentors say the original post disappeared, while in the thread people were complaining about a particularly intrusive ad. Since I haven’t been able to reach Alain, I’m wondering if it was the ad that ‘vanished’ my original, or something in the post itself…

A couple of middle-aged Democrats in Virginia get outed for their yearbook photos, and suddenly the lamestream media forgot all about the GOP’s multigenerational Southern Strategy…

*I* don’t think the Oval Office Occupant came up with that analogy on his own either, but he surely awarded Stephen Miller an extra frozen rat for explaining it to him. And he’ll keep gleefully repeating ‘Trail of TEARS! hur dur snurf at his rallies until Mueller or the Grim Reaper haul him off the public stage permanently.

The Repubs have carefully molded themselves into the Party of Bigotry, and now the bigots are in charge of the party. Trump is the GOP is Trump, and BabyDick is their prophet:

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    Ms. Navarro has a nerve to make demands on whom Democrats should vote for. If Trump wasn’t so crass, she’d be all in with his policies.

    And yes, the media is quite passive on calling Trump out on his anti-Native American racism. Pocahontas is a racist slur.

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    Peter says:

    FWIW, it was only the “read more” portion that was 404.

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    NotMax says:

    Ah, honest to goodness Open Thread. Couple of things which caught the eye.

    1) Replaying the worstest hits album of the last Republican administration.

    Holding Islamic State suspects at Guantánamo is still a viable option, Trump administration officials say on the heels of a U.S. appeal to other nations to take home their nationals who are among some 700 suspected foreign fighters held by a U.S. ally militia in Syria. Source

    2) Both Google and Apple ought to be deeply mortified, have their digital feet held to the fire and rectify this NOW.

    Saudi Arabia has created an application that allows male guardians to track and prevent women from travelling due to the rise in the number of women recently fleeing the ultra-conservative kingdom.

    The app, called Absher, meaning “Good Tidings” in Arabic, has been in operation for several years, however, it has only recently come into attention in media worldwide following the high-profile case of Rahaf Muhammad, a Saudi teen who fled the kingdom from her abusive family and found asylum in Canada.

    The app allows males to track their female “dependents,” such as wives and daughters, and receive a message whenever they use their passport to travel outside of Saudi Arabia.

    The Saudi Ministry of Interior, which runs the app, claimed this is an attempt to create digital services platform, which include the ability to pay fines online.

    However, it is its “dependent” registration and notification alert section that is excessively being used by Saudi men to restrict the freedom of women.
    Meanwhile, Apple and Google are facing criticism for hosting the app and have been accused of facilitating misogyny and helping “enforce gender apartheid” for making the app available on Google Play and Apple’s App Store. Source

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    Alain the site fixer says:

    Sorry, I didn’t see this until late today and it was long in the past. Not sure what went wrong with the post – the only thing similar I’ve seen was a draft/duplicate save issue where the filename was off and so the read more link didn’t load the desired page.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    The original reappeared, at least for me, a couple of hours ago, after having been inaccessible since early morning. Weird that it was just the one thread (shrug emoji).

    Thanks for reposting, AL. That entire Trumpian Native American racism requires a bright spotlight. He shouldn’t be allowed to skate.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I wonder if Navarro thinks right leaning independents and Republicans-in-exile voted for Obama. Twice.

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    MSNBC is saying that a deal in congress has been reached for the next CR, and it contains less money for a wall than would have been budgeted if they just continued old budget levels. I don’t want to jinx anything since this deal is not even two hours old and we don’t know details, but it sure sounds to me like Nancy broke both Trump and McConnell.

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    jl says:

    All Trump has to do is emit a few words that amount to ethnic slurs against Native Americans, add the word ‘Warren’ and it gives the corporate media a chance to pretend it is a major issue that Warren should worry about, and be forced to talk about to the exclusion of all else. So, emitting ethnic slurs with the word ‘Warren’ in the same tweet, is a pretty low cost investment for Trump. And nice pretext for the corporate media to keep vomiting up the same BS.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Alain the site fixer: @SiubhanDuinne: Thanks, guys — to my tech-ignorant mind, looks like it may have been that ad people were complaining about that tanked the original; no more ad, no more problem!

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    My college band, clearly decades ahead of its time, covered Guadalcanal Diary’s classic “Trail of Tears”

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    jl says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: Does Trump notice that his great deal making as lost him, I think, about $20 billion for Wall, and 10 miles of Wall over the last year or so? Will that make a difference? Hope his staff keeps him distracted, though I am sure Miller will bring it up.

    If McConnell and McCarthy decide to press Trump to sign or bad things will happen, Trump may well sign, even if he hates it. One theory i read explaining McConnells very sad face :( sad frowny face :(( during the SOTU was because Trump babbled about another shutdown.

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    JanieM says:

    It’s a whole new industry, Republican mouthpieces informing Democrats who we should nominate. No words can do justice to the level of asshole-itude that requires.

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    FlyingToaster says:

    I was able to get to the post via the arrows from the previous and succeeding posts; but not from the front page.

    AL: I don’t think it was an ad.

    Alain: filename truncation? Database error? WordPress hates John Cole, personally? I’m beginning to favor the latter myself.

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    NotMax says:

    @Anne Laurie

    no more problem!

    Go ahead, issue a challenge to the FYWP gods.


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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:


    sure sounds to me like Nancy broke both Trump and McConnell.

    Sure would be nice for that to be true. McConnell is a class A prick who constantly gaslights everyone and screws over his own constituents.

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    Monala says:

    The best explanation I’ve seen for why so many people are getting screwed on this year’s tax returns:

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    jl says:

    The Tapper clip pissed me off. He sat there with his patented prissy self-righteous pained face, and let the horrible Cheney lie her ass off and spew GOP propaganda. And why, because he wants a reaction to Trump’s umpteenth tweet with an umpteenth racial/ethnic/religious slur against the umpteenth group? Why is that so important? Isn’t that ‘old news’?

    I guess it’s nice work if you can get it. Beats asking questions about important issues, and having to know stuff.

    And after he sits there and lets Cheney lie for minutes on end with not a word to challenge her, he just murmers that she didn’t answer the question about Trump that wasn’t really worth asking, and particularly not worth asking a GOP hack like Cheney. Like that fact that the likes of Cheney wouldn’t answer that question means anything at all.

    Why do people bother to watch that junk? It’s infotainment with no information and no entertainment that I can see.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Adam Parkhomenko @ AdamParkhomenko
    These rallies are just trump talking about what he’s seen on tv recently. It’s like stand up at a seniors home.

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    eemom says:

    I don’t hate to say I told you so, and I did cybertell EW that the damn DNA test was going to have exactly the opposite effect she was hoping for.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:


    Why do people bother to watch that junk. It’s infotainment with no information and no entertainment that I can see.

    In case that wasn’t rhetorical, I honestly have no idea. Maybe because they don’t like to read? The shouting matches between “pundits” is also another element of infotainment that I absolutely hate. You don’t learn anything and the host/moderator doesn’t moderate.

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    Keith P. says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: They’re going to have to schedule votes on it before details get to Coulter et al.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    That’s good. Husband is doing the taxes right now and it ain’t pretty. But then we didn’t expect any favors from Dumpster.

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    NotMax says:

    @zhena gogolia

    Might want to roll up a cushy towel and lay it across the edge of his desk.

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    B.B.A. says:

    @eemom: Yeah, she thoroughly played herself.

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    jl says:

    Didn’t know Trump was doing a rally tonight, and I see in the news he is playing up Wall. I hope he gets carried way and declares victory and it charges him up so much that he signs anything.

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    chopper says:

    of course trump knows about native american genocide, his favorite president is jackson.

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    The Dangerman says:

    …he’ll keep gleefully repeating ‘Trail of TEARS! hur dur snurf‘ at his rallies…

    Why am I picturing the end of the Simpson’s episode where Bart drops his pants when the Australians can’t kick him? Not that I’m advocating Trump mooing us (OH HELL NO) but it’s the same mentality (and the same need, someone needs to give Trump a swift kick).

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Massive crowds tonight for Beto

    (Photo #1)

    (Photo #2)

    (Photo #3)

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Patricia Kayden: Ms Navarro can fuck right off.

    In other news, our power is out. It’s been snowing all day and now it’s sleeting. We’re warm enough for now but the power is out all over the east side and maybe in Seattle too. Last time it took some areas more than a week to have electricity again.
    We have firewood and blankets and we can push the sofa up to the fireplace and read our e-readers and doze. The cats will join us when the house cools off.
    I had mr opiejeanne fill up our gas cans in case we needed the generator, so we’ll be ok.
    It’s a fucking winter wonderland, I tell you.

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    Jay says:


    Booman Tribune has a post up that the Billionaires waited too long, and are now in panic mode.

    Expect them to deploy more of their flying monkees, now that Eat The Rich has become a viable survival plan.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    “I just met the most extraordinary young man down in Texas. With any luck, if the chips go right and he hangs onto the friends he makes, this kid one day can wind up being the President of the United States. He’s got it.”

    FDR on meeting rookie congressman Lyndon Johnson in 1937

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    NotMax says:


    Yeah, as kids power outages were an exciting adventure. As adults, they’re rife with suckitude. Bundle up!

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    Jeffro says:

    Ok, well FYWP just ate my fucking post so I’ll make this short…

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    Jeffro says:

    …trumpov is so bad, is so poorly rated, is so dumb, is so incompetent, has lost (bless their hearts) “independents”, and is STILL running on the same shit that got him and his party pasted just 3 months ago…

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    Duane says:

    @jl: Tonight at his hate rally Trumpov said, ” I’d love to have a dog, but I don’t have time.”
    The guy is a natural born liar. He can’t help it. No need to spout such an obvious lie. He did it anyway.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Did you check the original post? It reappeared this afternoon, at least for me. And it’s active now (Win10/​Firefox and Android/​Chrome). It has 32 comments.

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    Jeffro says:

    …that frankly we could run the D candidate with the dumbest trumpov nickname, the one most scorned by our ‘both sides’ media, the one with the most ‘socialist’ ideas…and that person would still win handily. It is going. to. happen.

    Not that we should settle for that, or not care who we nominate. But trumpov or even Pence are still going to get their asses handed to them. 3 months ago trumpov ran on all-brown-hate, all-the-time. He actually drove down their turnout and drove up ours.

    *all of this assumes no economic downturn btw, and not even an impact from the Mueller report, or the House Dems various’ investigations.

    So no matter what, we are going to clean their clock in 2020…

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Max Rose, freshman from Long Island, lays it out for reporters

    Bo Erickson @ BoKnowsNews
    NEW: @MaxRose4NY says it’s time to move on from Rep. Omar’s latest comment on Israel & money. (He was one of the first to call her out)
    He also said GOP can’t be “chickenshit” when it comes to anti-Semitism either

    @ brianbeutler
    “When Kevin McCarthy said it was Bloomberg and it was Soros and it was Steyer pulling strings behind the scenes, none of you camped out. Their caucus stayed united and had his back and none of you called him out on that…. You’re not agents of the Republican Party.”

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    Jeffro says:

    …and that’s all I have to say about that* =)

    *with apologies to Forrest Gump

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    Jeffro says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: YES! MORE OF THIS PLEASE DEMS!! The hypocrisy of the Rs and the complicity of the ‘both sides’ media, all in one…run with it!

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    hilts says:


    The Tapper clip pissed me off. He sat there with his patented prissy self-righteous pained face, and let the horrible Cheney lie her ass off and spew GOP propaganda… It’s infotainment with no information and no entertainment that I can see.

    Most of cable news is nothing but a super sized putrid steaming pile of excrement. Liz Cheney is just as big of an asshole as her dad.

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    Wapiti says:

    @opiejeanne: Dang. I’m in Seattle and we had some odd activity – some LED bulbs were winked off and on, but not the entire,house. Computer stayed on. Power hasn’t dropped completely (yet).

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    That’s because he can do no wrong, don’t you know? //

    I’m not sure if it’s because he’s a stubborn idiot, if he really believes in this shit, has some cognitive problems, or some combination of the three, but that hopefully bodes well for 2020

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    gwangung says:

    @Wapiti: Same here (Shoreline are). Apparently problems all over the place, with tree limbs falling on power lines all over the place (one spectacular explosion in Bremerton).

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    sdhays says:

    It astounds me how acceptable anti-Native American racism is in the GOP.

    Umm… I don’t know who Seth Masket is, but is he aware of, for example, the name of the NFL team in our nation’s capital?

    Racism against Native Americans is even more mainstream than mainstream racism.

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    Wapiti says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Good on him. Call the press out, call McCarthy out.

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    NotMax says:


    Sounds like voltage fluctuations. Not the healthiest situation for electronic equipment not hooked up to a UPS.

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    Jay says:


    Transformer or substation?

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Staten Island, please!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @zhena gogolia: Damn! That’s what I was thinking

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    SFAW says:


    Go ahead, issue a challenge to the FYWP gods.

    No, a REAL challenge would be “Nothing can go wrong now!”

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    NotMax says:

    @zhena gogolia

    Trivia: Staten Island is the only NYC borough which does not have a cocktail specifically named for it.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Trumpov said, ” I’d love to have a dog, but I don’t have time.”

    Oh Bull Fucking Shit. Has he ever, at any time in his sorry life, as a child or youth or adult, had a dog or any kind of animal companion? Did his siblings? Any of his kids? I think he is 100% deficient in every possible kind of love, both human and other animals.

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    jl says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Wow. Thanks. A lot of great talent and guts in that new House Dem caucus. Rose handled it just right and with the gravity and sincerity and no joking around it deserved. He did a great job of confronting the corporate media drones very directly on their BS.

    in CA Jerry Brown could confront the media hounds like that, and I remember wishing that I could see that on the national political stage, and now comes the freshman House Dem caucus. The last time Brown did it with a laugh (paraphrase from my memory): You people are pathetic. What Perry did was barely a fart, barely a burp, and you’re like little lapdogs running to sniff it.”

    Anyway, what was in response to Rick Perry giving Brown guff on the environment and climate change and California’s supposed high tax socialism. Rose is doing something similar, but on an issue where you can’t joke around like Brown did.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    voltage fluctuations

    Emergency band name.

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    Redshift says:

    For me, when this post was messed up, I could get the the front page, but clicking into any post got me a 404.

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    gwangung says:

    @Jay: Transformer….so far…

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    jl says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: voltage fluctuations and emergency band name

    Pere Ubu, Crush This Horn

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    Tazj says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: As everyone knows he has all the time in the world, but I hope for every dog’s sake he never gets one.
    Never listen to any excerpts from a Trump rally before you go to bed. It’s just so upsetting and I should know better. First he said that “We had to have the shutdown, we had to do it, to show everyone what was going on down here.”So people lost money and stood in lines for food and he’s proud of it.
    Then he repeats the monstrous lie that Northam was in favor of a law that would allow killing a baby after it’s born, if the parents or mother approved. The press better start explicitly stating that’s a lie and that he (Northam)was talking about perinatal hospice or comfort care for the baby.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Jay: Yes! Oh wait, we’re retired. I’m so glad we ventured out this morning when we were only up to 8″. Just went out and hooked up the generator, and the snow is over a foot deep. We do have a Subaru, but I’m pretty sure the reason the lights are out is the heavy snow and this evening’s sleet weighing down trees in one of the two canyons that lead off of this hill. One or more have probably pulled down a pole.
    The generator is hooked up now and running the on-demand water heater so we can shower, and I’m using my phone for the wifi for this computer. In a while we will hook up the refrigerator one line and the tv/wifi/DVR on the other. We’ll watch tv by candlelight. Heh.
    We had sandwiches for supper instead of the pizza I was about to make; we’ll be ok. It’s not terribly cold right now, hovering at 31F. It’s been a lot colder recently, so that’s good. The house is holding its temp for now.

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    Jay says:


    When we lived in MR, there was a pole/transformer that was taken out about once a month by a car/truck/drunk causing a neighborhood wide black out.

    Lead me to install a 2kwh natural gas generator with auto start.

    When the New Years Day storm hit, we were the only ones with heat, hot water and power. Wound up with quite the neighborhood block party.

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    Redshift says:


    The best explanation I’ve seen for why so many people are getting screwed on this year’s tax returns:

    Wow. I’ve often said if I were in charge and needed to raise taxes, I’d raise default withholding more, because most people pay a lot more attention to their refund than to their tax amount or to small changes in their paycheck. (And those who do pay attention could change their withholding and feel smug.)

    Apparently the GOP… did the opposite? (In addition to directly screwing the non-rich, of course.)

    Maybe they thought it would help them in the midterms to fool people into thinking their tax cut was bigger, and after the vanishing refund hit they’d forget before the next election?

    Or maybe they’re just that stupid about how taxes work…

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Duane: God, I hope no one gives him a dog!

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    NotMax says:


    Partially a poison pill so they can blame it on Democrats.

    “See? Look at what happened to your taxes when that demoness Pelosi was put in charge!”

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Redshift: can’t it be both? Really, I think they did it to fool people into thinking they had gotten a tax break. They got a fake tax break.

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    Jay says:


    “Or maybe they’re just that stupid about how taxes work…”


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    Redshift says:

    @NotMax: Hmm, maybe, but I really don’t think they were expecting to lose at the time they wrote the tax cut bill. They really thought it was going to be a winning issue for them.

    Now maybe they were planning some follow-up scam to cover their tracks of they won, but even that seems too clever for this bunch of clowns.

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    Redshift says:

    @opiejeanne: Yeah, that does seem likely. They did it to scam people before the election, and didn’t worry about afterward.

    And possibly the reason they were so off base about the reaction is that they since they and their base are both obsessed with taxes, they incorrectly assumed their base also paid close attention to the tax line in their pay stub.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Redshift: I noticed extra money in our retirement check in February that we couldn’t account for and figured out that they had diddled the withholding so that less was extracted for taxes. I told anyone here who would listen to check their withholding, check the actual dollar amounts and compare them to the previous year. My kids did but I don’t know if anyone else listened. Thank goodness we switched to the current CPA three years ago. He’s very sharp and very nice, and he’s been helping us adjust to the changing tax laws.

    I really hate Trump now. Really, Really hate him and all of the Republicans who allowed him to commit so many abominations.

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    chopper says:


    here in green lake ours went out for an hour or two. just adding insult to injury.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @chopper: I’m glad yours is back on. We saw trees leaning against power lines when we drove through the two heavily treed canyons that lead up onto our hill. I’m pretty sure one of them took out the power in our area, and it’s going to be a while before it comes back. Puget Sound Energy called us …

    The lights just came back on! Yay!

    2 1/2 hours on the button.

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    Brachiator says:


    The best explanation I’ve seen for why so many people are getting screwed on this year’s tax returns

    Coming late to the thread.

    This “explanation” is flat out wrong in a number of places, or over simplifies some things.

    The general idea that getting taxable income down is solid. And the GOP dopes who wrote this tax bill deliberately reduced or eliminated middle class tax breaks in order to load up goodies for the Uber wealthy.

    If you roll your own taxes, be sure to look at the What’s New section of the Form 1040 instructions.

    This is a good year to let a professional do your taxes and ask a lot questions.

    If you are self employed or have rental income, make sure you look for the new Qualified Business Income Deduction.

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    Sab says:

    @NotMax: Google got lots of publicity in their “do no evil” marketing phase. That was a lifetime away.

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    Sab says:

    @Brachiator: Good point on the qualified income deduction But the tax withholding tables last year were absolutely nuts. Made no allowance for vanishing personal exemptions. I have done a couple of tax returns this year and NOBODY is getting the refund they expected.

    If you are a single person working for a steady wage and you don’t change your exemption then your tax refund should not be an unpleasant surprise. It should be clockwork.

    How braindead are Republicans that they didn’t see this coming?

    People working for wages should not have to hire tax accountants to calculate their w-4. The IRS tables should work. This year somebody political in the IRS gamed the tables for the election.

    I really did not realize our government was that vulnerable to bad actors.

    Live and learn.

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