Getting To Know Kamala Harris

Let the infighting begin. I haven’t had a chance to listen to it in its entirety, gonna do that now.

I’m going to try and get a photo of Baby and give you guys an update later.


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    smintheus says:

    Harris is toast. She’s talking far too much, or maybe too little, about her Indian ancestry. Also, in all the wrong ways. I don’t see how she can possibly win an election against Trump now.

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    Brachiator says:


    Harris is toast. She’s talking far too much, or maybe too little, about her Indian ancestry.

    If Trump thinks he can beat her, he’s going to be SARI.

    Much more seriously, a good interview and good responses. And yeah, a few dumb ass questions.

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    Aleta says:

    @smintheus: They haven’t even started on her hair yet.

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    gbbalto says:

    @smintheus: OMG OMG She is so DOOMED this far out. Please spare us.
    ETA: Speaking as an Indo-American, tell us what she should have said.
    ETTA I am not an Indo-American. Are you?

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    Steeplejack says:

    Oh, jeez. Chris Hayes just said that Trump is having a rally in El Paso tonight. For some reason I thought he went there today and the idiocy was already over.

    Off to check @ddale8.

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    Martin says:

    @gbbalto: That was some solid snark up there at #1.

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    Mary G says:

    @Steeplejack: Beto’s having a counter rally. Bet the two crowds won’t have much in common and that the MSM covers the MAGAts and not the locals.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Inorite. Plus her answer to “Why are you black?” was a disaster!

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    gbbalto says:

    Sorry, too tired. If that WAS snark, smintheus, I do apologize. Maybe I depend too much on the snark //

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    Steeplejack says:


    Please adjust your snark meter.

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    cmorenc says:


    Harris is toast.

    You didn’t instead mean “toasted” did you? :=)

    Kamala Harris calls for marijuana legalization: ‘I think it gives a lot of people joy’

    Oops the link failed to embed. It’s from a story on her at Politico if you want to look it up.

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    smintheus says:

    @Steeplejack: I don’t remember how she answered the “Why are you black?” question, but it’s just not good enough. She needs to put an end to Republican attacks on that issue or she’s really going to be toast.

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    jacy says:

    Harris is my front-runner right now, although I know it’s really early.

    And my ex has not answered whether he’s going to fight custody in court (it’s been 5 days) I know he’s being silent to drive me crazy, and, unfortunately it works. It’s going to be one of those nights that takes a lot of anti-anxiety medication. grr.

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    smintheus says:

    @gbbalto: I thought it was funny.

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    smintheus says:

    @cmorenc: No, it’s my cat that’s getting toasted sitting on the hearth in front of our wood stove.

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    Steeplejack says:


    That was very good. Race as a national security issue.

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    UncleEbeneezer says:

    Since announcing her intention to run for president this past Martin Luther King Day, a firestorm has swirled around Sen. Kamala Harris. Some attack her for her personal life; others attack her based on her record as a prosecutor in California. Kamala served as San Francisco district attorney from 2004 to 2011 and as California attorney general from 2011 to 2017. She joined the United States Senate in 2017, where she still serves today.

    Some accuse her of not being “pro-black” because of her work as a prosecutor, stating that a prosecutor upholds a racist system.

    Let’s get thing straight—you can be pro-black and a prosecutor.

    How do I know this?

    Because I was both.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @smintheus: I’m pretty sure she is publicly eating food the wrong way. Unless it’s TOO MUCH THE RIGHT WAY.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Mary G:

    Chris Hayes just ran an almost-live clip of an NBC reporter “embedded” with Beto.

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    BREAKING: Flight attendant association warns that they will not come to work if another government shutdown happens, saying that it will impact safety and security – NBC Washington— LIVE Breaking News (@NewsBreaking) February 11, 2019

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    RedDirtGirl says:

    Open thread so…has NotMax reported in today from Hawaii? Seems they are having some serious weather out there…

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    Pres Trump tells visiting sheriffs there's a big line of people outside his event in El Paso waiting to get in, and that rival Beto O'Rourke has a line too but it's a "tiny little line."— Steve Holland (@steveholland1) February 11, 2019

    Honestly, he’s so obvious it’s not even worth decoding.

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    @rikyrah: My reaction exactly. I think people are fed up.

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    UncleEbeneezer says:

    In the three weeks since she launched her presidential campaign, Kamala Harris has quoted one figure more than any other: her mom.

    “My mother used to say, don’t sit around and complain about things, do something,” Harris told 20,000 supporters at her kick-off rally in Oakland. She would also tell a young Harris that “you may be the first to do many things, but make sure you’re not the last,” the California senator said at events in Iowa and South Carolina.

    The story of Harris’ parents — immigrant academics from very different parts of the world chasing their American Dream to the Bay Area — has become a key part of her message as she introduces herself to the country.

    Harris regularly describes her mother, Shyamala Gopalan, as the most important influence on her life. A breast cancer researcher from India who had a powerful presence despite her five-foot stature, she died of colon cancer in 2009. Donald Harris, Kamala’s father, is a retired leftist Stanford economics professor from Jamaica who studied issues such as income inequality but was less of an impact on her life after the couple divorced when she was a child.

    Kamala Harris’ parents, Shyamala Gopalan and Donald Harris, immigrants from India and Jamaica, in an undated portrait. (Courtesy of Kamala Harris)
    Like presidential hopefuls before her — Barack Obama’s stories of his single mom waking him up at 5 a.m. to study, or Bill Clinton’s tales of his mother supporting the family after his father died in a car crash — Harris is using her parents as the embodiment of the values she’s fighting for. To her supporters, her family’s immigrant story comes as almost an implicit rebuke of President Trump’s policies limiting immigration to the U.S. — even as she’s already had to deal with false “birther” conspiracies among some on the far right.

    For a candidate who admits that she feels more comfortable talking about politics and policy than her personal life, sharing her family’s experience also represents an easier way to connect with voters.

    “She has been telling her family’s story her entire political career,” said Jim Stearns, who ran Harris’ first campaign for San Francisco district attorney. “Everybody has to find their own foundation story, and she’s been consistent — she places a lot of value on her roots, and her mom is a huge impact.”

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    Steeplejack says:


    I didn’t actually hear her answer—the TV was on mute—but the optics were not good, that I can tell you!

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    zhena gogolia says:


    I like the way she talks, but then I like “professorial.” i.e. smart

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    zhena gogolia says:

    OT, I’m loving Nelson Eddy in a coonskin cap.

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    Jeffro says:

    I just want to say that if Seth Moulton and Bill de Blasio are cultivating presidential runs, then maybe it is time to close the door

    Like, yesterday

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Trump is such a blatant crook I don’t know why he doesn’t charge admission for people to get into his hate rallies.

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    B.B.A. says:

    @Jeffro: As a New Yorker, I can say de Blasio has a strong record to run on, with many accomplishments like…uh… no, wait, something will come to me, give me a few minutes…

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Harris is my front-runner right now, although I know it’s really early.

    I really like her. A lot. But as I said a few threads down, I’m taking my time to make a call. Will send a few dollars to each of my top few — enough to get on their email lists — and try to narrow things down after the first two or three debates.

    We are very fortunate to have such a deep, exciting bench! A Sanders-Gabbard ticket would give me pause, but I think I could live with almost any other pairing.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @smintheus: she used to be a prosecutor, which I’m interpreting as she was an LAPD cop, Ramparts division, in the 1980’s. Therefore I’m team Wilmer.

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    rikyrah says:

    Cyrus McQueen (@CyrusMMcQueen) Tweeted:
    Someone took issue with me mentioning Kamala Harris’s looks, and I shut that shit down. She is strong, erudite and yes, BEAUTIFUL. For a society that doesn’t hesitate to invalidate the beauty of black women and mock them with fuckin turtlenecks, you best believe ima say dat shit!

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I think she was either Starsky or Hutch, can’t remember which.

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    zhena gogolia says:



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    Via TPM

    The top Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate appropriations committees came out of a long Monday evening meeting to say they think they’ve reached a deal to fully fund the government, which is set to run out of funds on Friday at midnight.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Your logic is impeccable, as usual. Easy to see why you’re a near-top-10,000 labor-relations attorney.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    she used to be a prosecutor, which I’m interpreting as she was an LAPD cop, Ramparts division, in the 1980’s.

    Just like I was a few years later!

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    Steeplejack says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    David Soul.

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    Steve in the ATL says:


    Easy to see why you’re a near-top-10,000 labor-relations attorney.

    Well played!

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: and you clerked for Judge Ito, right?

    @zhena gogolia: is that the same as Panch or John?

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    zhena gogolia says:

    OT, Nelson Eddy: “People are rather gay in this quarter of town.”

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    NotMax says:

    @zhena gogolia

    Watching Naughty Marietta, are we? Jeanette MacDonald’s singing voice sets my teeth on edge.

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    mad citizen says:

    I’m normally a late technology and other stuff adopter, and I agree with many here that these election cycles are too damm long. But on the other hand, we all wanted a change yesterday–OK, wanted the popular vote winner to live in the WH. Anyway, I affixed my Kamala Harris For the People sticker (bought from her website so she gets the money) to the back of my vehicle last week. Was thinking today what an early adopter I am in my area. Aside from the, I’m sure, some Trump 2020 stickers around here, haven’t seen any other Dems yet. Saw the Blue Arrow H the other day.
    Self-congratulatory over.

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    chris says:

    Beto live for anyone interested.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Good to hear, but we’ve been down this road before. Congress can agree, but will Twitler throw another temper tantrum?

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    Jeffro says:

    Who is the Twitter person – Seth Abramson, maybe? – who said that for a multitude of reasons, if a D wants to stand out/win he/she should run against Pence and talk constantly about how he/she will just TROUNCE Pence in the 2020 general and what not.

    (yes you can all guess the reasons why this would be highly entertaining and also possibly cause Twitler to stroke out, which are basically the same thing)

    I like it! One doesn’t have to make it his/her whole campaign’s focus, but whew I sure would throw it out there. Warren kinda already is

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    HeleninEire says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Thank you for your question about Mary in the last thread. She is great. She is happy and healthy. Life is good.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Haha, I thought you’d get it with the coonskin cap comment.

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    Aleta says:

    @Jeffro:The Buzzfeed article mentions only the accomplishment that Pelosi gave him. “We got a lot of things that wouldn’t have happened if we weren’t willing to stand up and say we’re not just going to rubber-stamp the establishment,” Moulton said, referencing, among other things, the term-limit deal Pelosi agreed to. “So I think it was the right thing to do. I also think Speaker Pelosi is doing a great job right now.”

    He couldn’t organize support for a power play, he disrespected an excellent leader, he tried to use other women as cover, he’s got a new baby at home. But “his Serve America PAC alone raised more than $2 million, giving him the bandwidth to back dozens of candidates” and maybe that’s enough reason for him and the people who talk to him.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Heh. Things like this always remind me how changes in language and usage leave random things high and dry, so to speak.

    There is a 1961 novel by Billy Lee Brammer that is supposed to be a fantastic novel about politics in (a thinly disguised) Texas. It was optioned to the movies for Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason, but J.F.K.’s assassination cratered the project. I just checked on Amazon and was mildly surprised to see that it’s still in print. The title? The Gay Place.

    Another example that shows up a lot in ’30s movies, and I’ve seen it in things as recent as Perry Mason from the late ’50s, is “making love” as a synonym for “wooing” or “hitting on.”

    “I came in to find you making love to my wife!” Or: “Are you making love to me, sir?” Sort of jangles a bit to the modern ear.

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    Mandalay says:


    Harris on “Identity Politics”

    Stacey Abrams on identity politics: IDENTITY POLITICS STRENGTHENS DEMOCRACY:

    By enumerating and celebrating distinctions, the argument goes, they give their opponents reasons for further excluding them. But minorities and the marginalized have little choice but to fight against the particular methods of discrimination employed against them. The marginalized did not create identity politics: their identities have been forced on them by dominant groups, and politics is the most effective method of revolt.

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    NotMax says:

    Was gonna wait for a true Open Thread but one doesn’t seem to be forthcoming. For any who might have thought I was exaggerating about the weather here over the past few days (WaPo link) –

    An extremely powerful winter storm is pulling away from Hawaii after unleashing damaging winds, massive waves, coastal flooding and snow in unusual places.

    The storm, which the National Weather Service office in Honolulu described as “historic,” began pounding the islands Friday. Hawaii News Now reported a 66-year-old California man died in the rough surf off northwest Maui on Friday.

    Forecasters “are calling this an unprecedented event and we concur that we rarely if ever have seen the combination of record high onshore waves, coupled with gale force winds,” said Sam Lemmo, administrator of Hawaii’s Department of Land and Natural Resources (DLNR).

    The storm’s most extreme blow was generated on the Big Island’s towering peak of Mauna Kea, where a 191-mph wind gust blasted the mountain summit at 4:40 p.m. local time Sunday.
    Hawaii saw a mixed bag of bizarre precipitation over the weekend. Several inches of snow fell on Haleakala, a shield volcano in East Maui — something Jelsema described as “very unusual.”

    Snow is much more common on the high peaks of the Big Island, at Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa.

    The storm even deposited a coating of snow at Maui’s Polipoli State Park at an elevation of 6,200 feet according to Hawaii’s DLNR.

    “Perhaps the first time ever, snow has fallen in a Hawai‘i State Park,” the DLNR posted to its Facebook page Sunday. “Polipoli State Park on Maui is blanketed with snow. It could also be the lowest elevation snow ever recorded in the state.” Source

    2½ inches of wind-driven rain over 24 hours yesterday chez NotMax.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Yes, the “making love” thing confused me when I was younger.

    He just sang, “I’m gay without pause / and sad without cause.”

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    jacy says:


    It’s kind of fun to make POTUS/VPOTUS matchups in your head. We have an embarrassment of riches. (Republicans just have the embarrassment part)

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    Baud says:

    @NotMax: Stay safe.

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    Baud says:


    I remember not to long ago people were lamenting the size of our bench.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @NotMax: I knew it was bad, and I’m happy to see you reporting on weathering it without getting washed away.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @jacy: It’s kind of fun to make POTUS/VPOTUS matchups in your head.

    My head keeps coming back to Harris/Chris Murphy, though he may not want that peculiar position, and probably doesn’t need the boost to his chances for an eventual run of his own

    ETA: I should say: I have an almost perfectly wrong record predicting primary outcomes, ours and theirs. Almost.

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    Baud says:


    Senate Republicans are fuming at President Donald Trump for telling lawmakers he would disregard a law requiring a report to Congress determining who is responsible for the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

    They will surely do something about it this time. I can feel it.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I am a Rachel Maddow fan, and more than willing to become a Klobuchar fan, but the build up RM is giving AK is bordering on embarrassing

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    chris says:

    @NotMax: Snow on Hawaii, no snow here in Nova Scotia. Things are getting weird.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Raised eyebrow or sad headshake?

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    Baud says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    I’m going with full-on disappointed dad look. I think they’re serious this time.

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    NotMax says:

    @zhena gogolia

    A favorite, most likely apocryphal, story related to MacDonald & Eddy films is the one about the dimwitted actress auditioning for a singing role. Hands the music to the studio pianist, introduces herself and begins earnestly belting out:

    When I’m calling you-u-u
    Double oh, double oh


    Worst has pretty much passed but there’s talk of similar (though not as severe) weather coming right on its heels this week.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Baud: Collective GOP Senate Caucus: Mr President, we’re very disappointed in you.
    trump: That’s nice, now pass the mayonnaise and pipe down, I’m watching Judge Janet

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    Brickley Paiste says:


    That’s another one of the great things about Harris: she is going to add confidence to a lot of conventionally attractive minority women.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Yeah, I bailed over to HGTV. Part of it is that Maddow really is building up Klobuchar, but part of it also is that Maddow’s presentation style of belaboring everything intensifies the building-up effect.

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    NotMax says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Rachel has been an over the top Klobuchar booster for years, for reasons have never understood. Expect them to be wearing matching BFF Forever shirts when together.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Baud: Jared did it. In the library. With a candlestick bone saw.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    David Siders @ davidsiders
    About 7,000 on hand for @BetoORourke in El Paso tonight, per organizers, citing a law enforcement estimate

    I think I read earlier that trump’s rally site holds about 7.500

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    hueyplong says:

    @Baud: Seems like every article about Trump contains the word “raging” and every article about other Republicans contains the word “fuming.” And yet fisticuffs never ensue.

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    MomSense says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Harris Murphy is my dream ticket.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Mike in NC: Jared was in the library? I don’t think so.

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    NotMax says:


    presentation style of belaboring everything

    Well, she no longer repetitiously drones on laying out timelines dating back to the discovery of fire.


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    Amir Khalid says:


    … “making love” as a synonym for “wooing” or “hitting on.”

    I remember Jane Austen using it that way in Pride and Prejudice.

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    JWR says:


    Another example that shows up a lot in ’30s movies, and I’ve seen it in things as recent as Perry Mason from the late ’50s, is “making love” as a synonym for “wooing” or “hitting on.”

    See also: The George Burns & Gracie Allen Show. There was one episode where Gracie hired a gigolo to “make love” to Blanche, neighbor Harry Morton’s wife. As per usual, hilarity ensued.

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    NotMax says:

    @Steve in the ATL

    Yup. Had to be the conservatory.


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    Amir Khalid says:

    @zhena gogolia:
    I’m old enough to remember when “gay” just meant lighthearted.

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    Dan B says:

    @NotMax: Several friends have made requests for Pele or other Hawaiian residents or goddesses to send warmth to Seattle. They had to recant.

    14 inches snowpack here after about 20 inches snowfall. Airport seems to be closed (again). Snow never lasts more than three days here. Someone took an aluminum rowboat sledding!

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:


    a synonym for “wooing” or “hitting on.”

    Whatever happened to “courting,” anyway? It’s my favorite, and it’s clearly out of style.

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    Raven says:

    @RedDirtGirl: It’s running 26ft at Jaws

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    Always found it a bit daring for the time that Cary Grant used gay to allude to a stereotype of the other sense of the term in Bringing Up Baby.

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    trollhattan says:

    Glad you’re okay.

    Happened to be in Hilo on a bidnez trip in December and experienced them breaking the historic annual rainfall record. I may have grown up in Seattle but I did not know rain before that trip. Not windy, so there was that.

    California is up for the next ass-kicking starting tomorrow evening. There’s a lot of dang snow to melt if it’s a warm one.

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    NotMax says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    Any of those preferable to shipping.

    Courting not as far back in a dusty museum case as are spooning or pitching woo.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    She can slip into being very Capone’s vaultish. She should stop that.

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    mad citizen says:

    Recorded in 1997, one of the very best Bob Dylan songs, “It’s Not Dark Yet”:

    Well, I’ve been to London
    And I’ve been to gay Paris
    I’ve followed the river
    And I got to the sea
    I’ve been down on the bottom
    Of a world full of lies
    I ain’t lookin’ for nothin’
    In anyone’s eyes
    Sometimes my burden
    Is more than I can bear

    It’s not dark yet
    But it’s getting there

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    “People are rather gay in this quarter of town.”

    Who doesn’t love the Castro?

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    Leto says:

    @NotMax: Considering we have enough BJ’ers lamenting the fact that they can’t keep up with all of this shit, having a few times lines isn’t that bad. Also repitition helps memory retention, which considering how much goes down the drain hole, isn’t that bad.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    More on “shipping”: one who “ships” their favourite TV characters is a “shipper”, and one who disapproves of this is a “NoRomo”.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho:

    Whatever happened to “courting,” anyway? It’s my favorite

    People hate lawyers.

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    Brickley Paiste says:

    @Steve in the ATL:
    A tip of the fedora for that one.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    While wearing a marabou-trimmed dressing gown, no less.

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    “I say it’s spinach, and I say the hell with it.”

    h/t The New Yorker (original)

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    debbie says:


    The speed of his tweets is amazing! He’s memorized everything Trump’s ever said. Trump said his rally had 20,000 to 30,000, while Beto’s has 200 or 300. 😡 😤

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    satby says:

    @NotMax: hope the storm’s over without much damage soon.

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    NotMax says:

    @zhena gogolia

    Yup. Although it is in black-and-white, one just knows the trim was pink.

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    eemom says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    People hate lawyers.

    Fun fact: here in Vienna Virginia we have major thorofares called Lawyers Road, Courthouse Road, and Gallows Road. The meme prompted a mcmansion subdivision to name itself “Barrister’s Court” and its little side streets cute things like “Evidence Lane”, “Pro Hac Vice Circle”, and “Rule 11 Drive”.

    So, some developer loves us. At least we’ve got that.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Will Bunch @ Will_Bunch
    Klobuchar may have already won the Maddow Primary

    Richard M. Nixon @ dick_nixon
    Richard M. Nixon Retweeted Will Bunch
    Maddow built Klobuchar in a factory.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @eemom: are all the houses named “Blackacre”?

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:


    Any of those preferable to shipping.

    You rang? : )

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Steve in the ATL: True. I still like courting, though.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳🌷 says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    More on “shipping”: one who “ships” their favourite TV characters is a “shipper”, and one who disapproves of this is a “NoRomo”.

    I never heard of that last one.

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    NotMax says:


    Examine Your Briefs Place?


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    Doug R says:


    I don’t remember how she answered the “Why are you black?” question, but it’s just not good enough. She needs to put an end to Republican attacks on that issue or she’s really going to be toast.

    You know, the first thing when you’re trying to get out of a hole is to stop shoveling.
    Why does she have to justify herself to trolls and republicans? Just another variation on “show us your papers”.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Doug R:

    It’s snark.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @eemom: What, no Remittitur Road?

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    Yarrow says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: “Courting” is popular in evangelical circles. Remember that TV show where they had twenty kids and then the eldest son was accused of molesting his sisters? When the girls get to like 16 or 17 boys are allowed to “court” them.

    Best I can understand it’s a sort of dating that’s a bit more serious as it is supposed to lead to marriage. There’s no frivolous dating in those circles. You’re either platonic or “courting” with intend to become engaged.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Steeplejack: Phrasing!

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    Dead thread, but: Finally getting to listen to this. Kamala is very good. I’m not going to pretend this wasn’t a friendly interview, but she did very well on all these questions. Forceful, confident, and funny.

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