— Susan Stone (@sdigitalmedia) January 26, 2019
The FBI isn’t being paid right now, but come on — I’d do this for free too. https://t.co/4Nr2ttwaVh
— shauna (@goldengateblond) January 25, 2019
You have to understand that the key lessons all Republicans from Reagan to Gingrich to Cheney to Trump took from Watergate are 'don't get caught' and failing that 'pretend you didn't get caught.' pic.twitter.com/JJtzIPXzur
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) January 25, 2019
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Stone's been arrested
And it's very unlikely the shifty bastard weasels his way out of this hole pic.twitter.com/DWpLZnsE9j— Jared 'Very Legal & Very Cool' Kushner (@PrezKushner) January 25, 2019
— Life Coach Killer (@GuadalahonkyToo) January 25, 2019
Since we're doing this. Here's an actual 527 political organization formed by Trump's longtime friend, advisor and imminent criminal defendant Roger Stone. pic.twitter.com/ZxgqZ2Hge7
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) May 31, 2018
<operator> This is a collect call from Northern Virginia Federal Corrections. Do you accept the charges?
Stone: I accept
Manafort: I get the top bunk <click> pic.twitter.com/eOatM3cnvg
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 26, 2019
Plato
Magats Are Getting Arrested.
Mike in NC
Caught a mention that Chris Christie is thinking about primarying Trump. Sweet.
zhena gogolia
This thread looks interesting — trying to document everything we’ve learned from Mueller.
twitter.com/jentaub/status/1089193853230505984
Plato
JPL
@Mike in NC: hahahahahhahhhahahahhaha
Viva BrisVegas
One downside of the shutdown/backdown is that Ann Coulter seems to have made herself relevant to the MSM once again.
First she was the spur that prodded Trump into action, and now that he has disappointed her she seems to have found a niche as a critic of Trump from the lunatic right.
There’s money in them there shills.
Yutsano
Open thread: just got to the hotel. Will check the meet-up thread shortly.
Plato
germy
My
Attorneys
Got
Attorneys
Viva BrisVegas
@Plato:
Could Trump be worried that the Democrats might propose serious punitive actions against the employers of undocumented workers?
debbie
If I weren’t afraid that someone would take a bat to my car, that top image would make a great bumpersticker!
SiubhanDuinne
Will comment on Roger Stone in due course, but since it’s an Open Thread I shan’t apologise for the derailment:
Hope my fellow OCDs (CDOs for those who insist upon alphabetical order) will appreciate.
debbie
@Viva BrisVegas:
Nah, I think he’s afraid Ann would slam him for it, now that she’s in a snit.
Mary G
WaPo has a piece up on Nancy SMASH: (ETA) titled:‘Pelosi does not mess around’: Democratic speaker emerges triumphant from shutdown.
Grudging respect, but respect.
West of the Rockies
Stone is a homely human. His hair looks sewn on. The glasses atop that beak look fitting for am 11-year-old wizard-in-training. Skin like aged horse hide. Blech.
Yutsano
@West of the Rockies: He used to be some kind of a lifter. He hasn’t been for a while. It’s obvious and pretty sad.
germy
@West of the Rockies: Have you seen his head in profile? He looks like zippy the pinhead.
plato
@Mike in NC: If the fat fucker does that, I might respect him a lil bit.
Suzanne
@germy: Adam (if memory serves) made a statement yesterday about Roger Stone being a steroid and HGH user, and said that it is evident from the shape(?) of his head. I confess I am not familiar enough with these drugs to pick up on that. But the dude is kind of weird-looking, for sure.
debbie
Wrong thread, sorry.
debbie
@Suzanne:
He’s supposed to be a body-builder, but those shoulders don’t look the part.
plato
Everything about these traitorous thugs reeks of corruption.
Baud
More Assholes Going Away
mad citizen
I’m sure others have commented on it (thought I haven’t seen it on BJ), but Stone pulling out the Nixon leaving the White House salute seems really weird as a piece of defiance. That’s your go-to dude?
trollhattan
@West of the Rockies:
“Rode hard and put away wet” Roger. Looks to be closing fast on 80.
Another Scott
@debbie: His back looks kinda weight-lifter-y to me (especially since he’s 66 now).
YMMV.
Cheers,
Scott.
Gin & Tonic
@Yutsano: And if there happen to be any jackals in El Calafate, Argentina, lets grab a glass of wine…
germy
@Suzanne:
I missed that thread. It would seem more likely his mother used drugs while pregnant with him. I didn’t know his use of steroids could shrink his skull like that, but anything’s possible with these freaks I suppose.
MagdaInBlack
@Another Scott:
NOT gonna click that link. 😐
I’ve just eaten dinner.
ETA: he’s always been an odd looking critter. He seems to strive for cool and eccentric but just comes off as weird and vulgar. (And stupid)
Kelly
Helen Kennedy has a point.
twitter.com/HelenKennedy/status/1089328671331139584
““Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, however, noted that Mr. Kushner was still seen internally as one of the administration’s most successful negotiators.”
A. Maybe this is the problem?
B. Then again, she’s not wrong.”
West of the Rockies
@Yutsano:
He has a fairly wide back, and obviously worked his chest, but neglected other areas. I don’t mean to appearance-shame the fellow, bit since he clearly places high value on looks, I guess it’s fair ground.
different-church-lady
“…What Hillary Clinton Really Is.”
Not under arrest?
debbie
@Another Scott:
Believe me, MMDV. The only bodybuilder I can think of is Arnold and his shoulders didn’t slope down like that. Neither do pro football players’.
I am disappointed that the tat above isn’t the actual one.
HinTN
@plato:
West of the Rockies
@germy:
Perhaps he gets it from his parental units…
Mike in NC
Hopefully Roger Stone will have ample time to lift weights in whatever federal prison he lands in.
different-church-lady
@West of the Rockies: Yeah, but you should have seen him in his youth — he actually got better looking with age.
different-church-lady
@mad citizen: That boy’s wiring ain’t up to code.
bbleh
Lol no WAY — between Manafort and Stone, Manafort is totally bottom bunk!
rikyrah
😅😅🤣🤣
Mr. Weeks 🤴🏾 (@MrDane1982) Tweeted:
Like if you’re a fuck Bernie Sanders voter
Retweet if you really want to let people know you’re a fuck Bernie Sanders voter
Comment with Fuck Bernie Sanders because you’ve said it multiple of times since 2015
Quote Tweet just to confirm you’re a fuck Bernie Sanders voter.
twitter.com/MrDane1982/status/1089276884045754371?s=17
Jay
Warning, NSFW,……
mobile.twitter.com/PMinoune/status/1089274425252315136
HinTN
@HinTN: That’s not the way I left it…
(((CassandraLeo)))
@mad citizen: Dude literally, no joke, has a giant Nixon tattoo on his back. Tells you everything you need to know about him.
Yutsano
Re: any meet-up tonight: I’ll make this easy. I’ve been driving all day and I’m not in the best mood with humanity right now. Plus I can get pupusas delivered here. But tomorrow at 6pm/1800 I will be at the Indo Cafe for sure!
Villago Delenda Est
@Viva BrisVegas: Money is of course what the MSM is all about. They are more mercenary than the Condottieri of Renaissance Italy.
mad citizen
@(((CassandraLeo))): I forgot about the Nixon (That creep could roll, Dude) tattoo. I learned here that the Nixon library or something similar dissociated themselves from Stone, pointing out he never worked for Nixon, he was 20 years old in 1972, etc.
LuciaMia
But Roger Stone’s dog says hes innocent. Thats gotta count for something.
Amir Khalid
@debbie:
A competitive bodybuilder (or a serious one, at least) pays attention to his proportions, and does extra work on body parts that need more muscle mass. The dilettantes tend to focus not on what looks good on the competition stage, but on what looks good at the beach. For instance, extra-wide shoulders can make you seem shorter.
Jay
@mad citizen:
The Nixon Foundation was trying to disavow Stone based on both his inductment and the release of his FOAI’d FBI Files.
propertyofthepeople.org/tag/roger-stone/
Honus
@different-church-lady: every time I hear “Citizens United” it pisses me off they don’t use the whole name and point out what a vulgar bunch of assholes that decision validated.
Amir Khalid
@(((CassandraLeo))):
Nixon, we must never forget, led the Republican party in selling out to the Confederates, and this started the process that has ended up with the Republican party selling out to the Russians.
debbie
@Amir Khalid:
True. His over-concentration on his latissimus dorsi makes Stone look like a gnome.
Ladyraxterinok
@Mike in NC: IIRC the FNC decided there will be no GOP ptimaries/ caucuses because Trump is such a great and effective leader!_
(((CassandraLeo)))
@Amir Khalid: Also literally engaged in treason to “win” the election by sabotaging peace talks in Vietnam. First time as tragedy, second as farce. But I must say I don’t find any of the current events very funny.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@mad citizen: Mildly OT, did you see that clip Jeff Bridges posted the other night? I’m still puzzled what it’s heralding, though the date is the date of the Superb Owl, so I guess we’ll find out then. Hoping it’s more than a commercial spot at least.
Baud
Why y’all talking smack about the last liberal president?
Immanentize
@debbie:
I love it when you go all med school latin. 🔥
debbie
@Immanentize:
Art school, babeee!
Amir Khalid
@Ladyraxterinok:
I remember that Obama did face primary challengers in 2012, albeit no one who was taken seriously outside their own campaign.
Baud
@debbie:
You excelled at the nudes, didn’t you?
Immanentize
@debbie:
Ooo. Buff models! Just to let you know, I pulled my trapezius recently….
plato
debbie
@Baud:
😳🤐
@Immanentize:
I hate when that happens!
CliosFanBoy
@West of the Rockies: he is even uglier on the inside/..
(((CassandraLeo)))
@plato: However, she was also running a private email server, which is the worst crime imaginable, and you have to understand, she was going to win. //
sdhays
@plato: This even understates the difference. Hillary had how many Congressional investigations run by a hostile majority and no one was charged with perjury and no crimes were revealed. It all turned up absolutely nothing.
The Russia investigation has had, to date, 2 investigations by Congressional Intelligence Committees, both run by sympathetic majorities (one farcically so), and several people are literally going to prison over lying to them.
plato
@sdhays: Exactly.
JaySinWA
@plato: Just proves the fix is in.//
Ladyraxterinok
@Amir Khalid: In 60 election, JFK rep,IED to Correta Scott King; Nixon did not.
He wanted to distance himself from GOP under Eisenhower supporting civil rights. He knew this distancing would help him in the South.
He also knew/was told that the Southern Baptists were quite anti-Catholic and would very likely not vote for Catholic JFK. (SoBaptists were the dominant religious group in the so-called solid south)
See JFK’s speech to the Houston Baptist Ministerial Alliance when he was in Houston during the campaign.
I went with friends from college to a big democratic party get-together in downtown Houston. Rayburn and LBJ were there. Sadly, don’t remember if JFK was.
We later went to a GOP rally in a big city park. We stood on the fringe of the crowd. We were muttering comments to one another and were told to go back to Russia where we belonged! Sigh–how the GOP has changed!
mad citizen
@(((CassandraLeo))): I messed up the quote, it’s “That creep can roll, man”. Haven’t seen the movie in a while. I haven’t seen the clip but reading speculation it’s a Super Bown commercial.
trnc
@Kelly:
That’s like Franken saying “I’m probably Ted Cruz’s best friend in the senate, and I hate Ted Cruz.”
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Plato: Only a matter of time before the GOP will be talking about “Trump sweeping victory in the shut down stopping the Democrats demand to build a wall of the southern boarder” It’s all Soviet Union from here on out.
Ken
@Ladyraxterinok: How charmingly banana republic.
Have they asked any of the many, many corporations that make huge amounts of money from the primaries what they think of this plan?
plato
@JaySinWA: Or, IT’S ALL PROCESS CRIMES!
Just One More Canuck
@Amir Khalid: you mean “outside their own house “
KithKanan
@Honus: They’re two separate groups. Roger Stone named his 2008 group in what I assume he considered a play on the name of the original (1988) Citizens United – the one that won the campaign finance supreme court case.
chris
@plato: Didn’t Lindsay Graham say recently that he was going to open a new investigation? He’ll get her this time for sure!//
chris
Damn! in moderation for email typo, halp!
ETA: Never mind, comment vanished into the ether.
sdhays
@Ladyraxterinok: I don’t think they’ve actually done that yet. The RNC Rules Committee just released a unanimous statement saying how manly and Presidential the ASSet is, and his minions are shuffling around installing loyalists in key positions to try to make sure he doesn’t have a contested primary. But there were a bunch of stories today about how Larry Hogan is considering running for the 2020 Republican Presidential nomination, so they haven’t succeeded shutting down the Republican Primary yet. And after this week, the Trump-skeptics will be emboldened.
chris
@plato: Lindsay Graham (R- Delusional) will get her this time!!!//
chopper
jesus, that pic makes him look like a 70 year old draco malfoy.
Amir Khalid
@sdhays:
By the way, what saith the law about a party not holding a presidential primary?
Bill Arnold
@LuciaMia:
Roger Stone’s dog can talk? Does Mueller know about this?
Ladyraxterinok
@Ladyraxterinok: For the hostility of SoBaptists to Catholics–during the 56 dem nation convention, JFK was nominated for vic-president. OK’s senator Robert Kerr, a staunch SoBaptist, led the floor fight against him.
Note– it was his company , Kerr-Magee(sp?) that was later involved in a big scandal about some wrong-doing the resulted in the death (possible murder) of a woman investigator. IIRC the story was made into a moderately successful movie
Redshift
@(((CassandraLeo))):
I wish Trump was only the second time.
Nixon – sabotaging Vietnam peace talks
Reagan – sabotaging Iran hostage negotiations
Bush II – sabotaging Israel-Palestine negotiations
Trump – sabotaging Russia sanctions, etc.
At this point, conspiring with a foreign power to undermine US foreign policy in order to win an election is just a standard Republican campaign tactic, and if we had competent political reporters, they’d always be on the lookout for it. Blowing the whistle in real time could be a big scoop.
Ladyraxterinok
@Just One More Canuck: Didn’t Wilmer call for someone to primary Obama in 2012??
sdhays
@Amir Khalid: I think parties are generally allowed to choose their nominees however they see fit; they aren’t government organs, after all. That’s why some states have primaries, some have caucuses, and some have both and ignore one or the other.
Ladyraxterinok
@Amir Khalid: Does constitution even mention parties? I think each party decides what it’s going to do. With each state’s input??
sdhays
@Redshift: I wish these facts would get the proper airing in the media so that it became something “everyone knows”. It’s a crime how Nixon and Reagan get a pass, and I didn’t even know about W and Israel and the Palestinians.
Redshift
@plato: If there was a Pulitzer category for right-wing disinformation, whoever came up with that “process crimes” talking point would be a shoo-in to win it…
chris
@Redshift: Also Reagan/BushI and Iran Contra.
different-church-lady
@Redshift: Process crime: it’s like thought crime, except there’s no thought.
gbbalto
@sdhays: Though I am anything but expert, I do live in MD. Hogan could be a contender. He is very popular in this blue state, more moderate than most Repubs these days, has made it clear that he doesn’t like Trump, can do bipartisan from working with a Dem-dominated Houses of Delegates and Senate. If he can actually beat out Trump, he will be a formidable opponent in my inexpert opinion. Thoughts of other MD jackals?
sdhays
@gbbalto: I think it’s impossible for anyone approaching sane to win the nomination of that party.
gbbalto
@sdhays: I expect that you are right. Most unlikely, but if Trump falls, maybe their best chance.
AThornton
Each state has control over how its congressional delegation is determined, subject to the over-riding authority of the federal government, e.g., giving every citizen the right to vote in elections. The state may choose to not choose and let the political parties determine their candidate(s) or may step in and establish guidelines as California has done and to have the two top voter getters in an All-in-One primary continue to the general.
Quinerly
@Ladyraxterinok: yes. And that’s why I knew Wilmer was a POS from the get go.
plato
@gbbalto:
Forget it, Jake. it’s totus thug’s party now.
Unless, he drops dead. Bet many in gop are praying just for that to happen.
Redshift
@sdhays: Agreed. He could be a contender in the general election, but Republican primary voters aren’t interested in moderate. Or sane.
mad citizen
@gbbalto: All due respect to Maryland, is this Hogan a 62 year-old white man? Check. He has no chance.
plato
LOL.
plato
Jerry Brown ‘telling it like it is’ to the moronic media minions.
plato
Aleta
@Quinerly: He did say he won’t run if anybody better than he is shows up. (At least that’s what he meant.) (A clever trick!)
Redshift
@chris: Yeah, similar treason, but not quite the same thing, since it wasn’t done to undermine a current Democratic administration.
It is still kind of stunning that every Republican candidate in my lifetime who successfully ran against a Democratic incumbent or while a Democratic administration was in office conspired with a foreign power during the election.
Gretchen
Rick Wilson is a highly-paid political analyst, but he thinks someone must have tipped off CNN for them to have gotten the scoop. I’m an old lady in Kansas, and I knew somebody was going to be indicted yesterday, and the likelies were on a short list – Credico, Corsi, Stone, Trump Jr. Send out 4 camera crews to stake out these guys’ houses. I could have run that operation. Why is it a mystery to Rick Wilson?
Villago Delenda Est
@plato: A quibble. They’re not journalists. They’re either stenographers or propagandists.
plato
@Gretchen: Even if ‘someone from FBI’ tipped off cnn, so what? Doesn’t absolve the traitorous thug of ‘process crimes’.
Mnemosyne
@Gretchen:
Meh. A lot of right-leaning journalists and commentators are having a knee-jerk sympathetic reaction to Stone’s arrest, because they’ve all been in the same circles for a long time.
There’s actually footage from the previous evening of a CNN producer (I think) talking about who they were going to stake out the next day based on the grand jury meeting on Thursday. The CNN crew that was sent to watch Stone’s house just happened to get lucky.
sm*t cl*de
@CliosFanBoy:
There’s only one way to find out for sure.
Uncle Jeffy
@Gretchen: Anything more complicated than “See Spot run” is a mystery to Rick Wilson.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@Gretchen: Because Wilson would have been tipping off a camera crew if a Democratic critic operative was about to get busted, back before he decided he hated Trump.
trnc
@plato:
True, although an “accident” isn’t our only worry.