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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Friday Morning Open Thread: Take What You Want, And Pay for It, Says God

Friday Morning Open Thread: Take What You Want, And Pay for It, Says God

by Anne Laurie|  January 25, 20194:55 am| 91 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Dolt 45, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Venality, Repubs in Disarray!, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

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.@davidhogg111 & @RepDebHaaland packing dinners for federal employees at @WCKitchen pic.twitter.com/tMPxQtsqaI

— Jackie Alemany (@JaxAlemany) January 24, 2019

Title of this post is from an old proverb; if you prefer to change the last word to ‘fate’ or ‘karma’ or ‘Newton’s law’, the meaning stays the same. Sooner or later, we all have to face the Goddess of Consequences…

Has this been the worst two days of the shutdown for Trump? Public complaints from FBI agents, former DHS chiefs and Coast Guard commandant; tone-deaf Ross/Lara Trump/Kudlow; terrible poll numbers out; Pelosi wins speech standoff; first official defections from Senate GOP…

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 24, 2019

And not just Trump, but also the rest of his party…

FIREWORKS inside today's Senate GOP luncheon.

“This is your fault,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) told Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

“Are you suggesting I’m enjoying this?” McConnell snapped back.

W/@pkcapitol: https://t.co/SuGZ1VVjOI

— Sean Sullivan (@WaPoSean) January 25, 2019

Either Cornyn is lying or this is the dumbest GOP caucus in history. pic.twitter.com/QRkFeiqdS3

— Schooley (@Rschooley) January 25, 2019

The fact that Trump admin officials feel the need to downplay the pain people are suffering from the shutdown is a pretty good indicator that they recognize where the blame is likely to end up.

If you think Dems will shoulder it, you say, "Yes, it's awful."

— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) January 24, 2019

Shade (probably unintentional) from the Slightly Soiled Lady:

Change in Abstract pic.twitter.com/OoWqYwHp02

— Editing TheGrayLady (@nyt_diff) January 25, 2019

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  1. 1.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 5:14 am

    Blech

  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    January 25, 2019 at 5:23 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ???

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 5:28 am

    A new report that a White House official appointed by Donald Trump overruled the advice of two specialist adjudicators to award top security clearance to the president’s son-in-law has raised fresh questions about the way the White House is conducting top security matters.

    Jared Kushner was awarded top security clearance giving him access to highly sensitive national security intelligence last May after a prolonged delay in his FBI background checks. Kushner had lost his full clearance a few months before, after it emerged that he had failed to disclose adequate information.

    The NBC News report, published on Thursday night, suggests new intrigue within the White House over the clearance process. Two career White House officials specializing in assessing individuals for their security risk turned Kushner down for the sensitive “top secret” category, the report states.
    ……………………………..
    The NBC News report is likely to generate fury over the way the White House is conducted because it suggests a drastic reduction in security standards in order to benefit members of Trump’s entourage. NBC News reports that not only did Kline grant Kushner a top secret pass, he also overruled security specialists and approved clearance for other Trump appointees in at least another 30 cases – vastly more than the norm in recent presidencies.

  4. 4.

    (((CassandraLeo)))

    January 25, 2019 at 5:34 am

    Either Cornyn is lying or this is the dumbest GOP caucus in history.

    ¿Porqué no los dos?

    If Schlemazel and/or any family members are reading this, btw, you have my best wishes.

  5. 5.

    JPL

    January 25, 2019 at 5:37 am

    Nobody was blaming the president because they are afraid of the tweet.

  6. 6.

    JPL

    January 25, 2019 at 5:41 am

    Schlemazel , Thinking of you and your family.

  7. 7.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 5:45 am

    The GOP has become the Soviet party -Catherine Rampell

  8. 8.

    Keith P.

    January 25, 2019 at 5:47 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Rachel Maddow covered that last night, and it was the first time I can really remember where I didn’t find her long-winded at all. I mean, she did her normal schtick, but in this type of story, it really works, since every detail is important to the overall theme.

  9. 9.

    JPL

    January 25, 2019 at 5:48 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Will it really matter?

  10. 10.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 25, 2019 at 5:48 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    vastly more than the norm in recent presidencies.

    Norm left the building when Trump arrived.

  11. 11.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 5:50 am

    Trump White House’s plan for Venezuela regime change far from clear They don’t have a plan. They don’t even have a clue.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 5:51 am

    @JPL: It will when there is a DEM in the WH.

    “You can’t do that!”
    “trump did.”

  13. 13.

    Waldo

    January 25, 2019 at 6:01 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Trump White House’s plan for Venezuela regime change far from clear They don’t have a plan. They don’t even have a clue.

    I take it the Russian translator has been furloughed.

  14. 14.

    JPL

    January 25, 2019 at 6:15 am

    @Keith P.: Thank you for the recommendation, and I am listening to her now.

  15. 15.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 25, 2019 at 6:16 am

    @Waldo: I’m sure Vlad will be more than happy to provide one.

  16. 16.

    raven

    January 25, 2019 at 6:22 am

    Roger Stone arrested!

  17. 17.

    geg6

    January 25, 2019 at 6:22 am

    Roger Stone has been arrested. Mueller got him.

  18. 18.

    Keith P.

    January 25, 2019 at 6:23 am

    Roger Stone has been arrested by the FBI (breaking on CNN). 7 counts…obstruction, lying to investigators, witness tampering.

  19. 19.

    geg6

    January 25, 2019 at 6:24 am

    Obstruction, false statements and witness tampering.

  20. 20.

    plato

    January 25, 2019 at 6:24 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Shootin’ from the hips …into their own dicks. Nothing new from rethugs.

  21. 21.

    raven

    January 25, 2019 at 6:25 am

    Up the lazy river, up the hazy lazy river. . .

  22. 22.

    geg6

    January 25, 2019 at 6:25 am

    Oh, happy Friday! ?

  23. 23.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 6:25 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Norm left the building when Trump arrived.

    And is sitting at the end of the bar.

  24. 24.

    Mai Naem mobile

    January 25, 2019 at 6:26 am

    Indictment Ftiday. Finally. Lots of people are going to be dancing on Stones grave. Asshole.

  25. 25.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 6:28 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: re Venezuela….
    What if Pelosi declared herself the real President and took the oath of office. Would leaders of the world rush to support her as the real government leader?

    Asking for my friend Angela.

    PS. Venezuela will end in blood, probably including that of Americans.

  26. 26.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 6:30 am

    @raven:
    Now that is the type of news that I like!

  27. 27.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 6:30 am

    @raven:
    “God knows justice, but waits.”

  28. 28.

    Plato

    January 25, 2019 at 6:31 am

    @Keith P.:

    Yessss. Fiiiinally.

  29. 29.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 25, 2019 at 6:35 am

    Oooh ooooh oooooh!!! This day is off to a fine start!

  30. 30.

    PsiFighter37

    January 25, 2019 at 6:36 am

    Awesome, AWESOME way to start the day. I hope Stone rots in prison for the rest of his life.

  31. 31.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 25, 2019 at 6:38 am

    @raven: Infrastructure Week seems to be ending with a bang.

  32. 32.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    January 25, 2019 at 6:39 am

    @PsiFighter37: I’m sure the full size Nixon tat will get him some street cred in the joint.

  33. 33.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 6:39 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    I love me some FBI pre-dawn raid.

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 6:39 am

    Mueller’s indictment states that during the summer of 2016 Stone spoke to senior Trump campaign officials about Wikileaks “and information it might have had that would be damaging to the Clinton campaign. Stone was contacted by senior Trump campaign officials to inquire about future releases by” Wikileaks, which the document calls “Organization 1”.

    It states that Stone – a longtime political adviser to Trump – made “multiple false statements” about his interactions regarding Wikileaks, and “falsely denied possessing records that contained evidence of these interactions”, and “attempted to persuade a witness to provide false testimony to and withhold pertinent information from the investigations”.

    More to come.

  35. 35.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    January 25, 2019 at 6:40 am

    Good morning, Schlemazel, you are in my thoughts.

  36. 36.

    bjacques

    January 25, 2019 at 6:42 am

    I’m liking this version of “Get Me Roger Stone”

  37. 37.

    Plato

    January 25, 2019 at 6:42 am

    Midnight knock. Karma, you motherfucker.

  38. 38.

    raven

    January 25, 2019 at 6:44 am

    @Immanentize: I hope they executed a no-knock!

  39. 39.

    JPL

    January 25, 2019 at 6:44 am

    @Plato: haha

  40. 40.

    raven

    January 25, 2019 at 6:46 am

    Dude on Joe said he’d be sitting for 8 hours before his appearance which means they got him at 3am!

  41. 41.

    Jinchi

    January 25, 2019 at 6:48 am

    “This is your fault,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) told Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

    This is the list of Republican Senators who voted to re-open the government:
    Lamar Alexander, Sen. Susan Collins, Cory Gardner, Johnny Isakson, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney

    Ron Johnson’s name is not on it. He’s not wrong to blame McConnell, but he and the rest of the Republicans who complain quietly about the shutdown could have ended this before it even started.

  42. 42.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 6:50 am

    @raven:
    Probably not — but you only need to knock once, yell FBI! And then bust down the door. I read that they had armed agents when they came calling. “Armed Agents” generally means full combat gear. Stone is well known to own a bunch of guns.

  43. 43.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 25, 2019 at 6:50 am

    This is what you get when you have a cabinet full of grifters and buffoons.

    Catherine Rampell on CNN

  44. 44.

    Cermet

    January 25, 2019 at 6:50 am

    stone getting indicted is really a great way to start off the morning! Now that is such wonderful news that even I can’t add anything that would detract from it.

  45. 45.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 6:51 am

    @raven:
    I love it when the Gentry get treated to what the rest of the proles face.

  46. 46.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    January 25, 2019 at 6:51 am

    Schlemazel, you and your family are in my thoughts.

    Also, Happy Friday to the rest of the jackaltariat.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    January 25, 2019 at 6:53 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  48. 48.

    JWR

    January 25, 2019 at 6:53 am

    @Immanentize:

    Stone is well known to own a bunch of guns.

    Yep. Just saw a brief CNN video showing a boatload of heavily armed agents approaching his front door, though the video didn’t show whether or not they busted in.

  49. 49.

    O. Felix Culpa

    January 25, 2019 at 6:54 am

    Good indictment morning! May there be many more.

    And love to Schlemazel and family.

  50. 50.

    Kay

    January 25, 2019 at 6:54 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    “attempted to persuade a witness to provide false testimony to and withhold pertinent information from the investigations”.

    I’d love to know who the witness is.

  51. 51.

    Baud

    January 25, 2019 at 6:55 am

    @raven: Yes!

  52. 52.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 6:55 am

    The Golden State Warriors, who did not visit the White House after winning the NBA Championship the past two years, spent some time with former President Barack Obama

    ? @loganmmurdock
    5:42 PM – 24 Jan 2019

    ETA https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1088613032417202177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  53. 53.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 25, 2019 at 6:56 am

    @Immanentize:

    Yep! I just realised I’ve been grinning since I heard the news.

  54. 54.

    Lapassionara

    January 25, 2019 at 6:56 am

    @bjacques: Me too! Also like that this part of the government seems to be operating, at least for now.

  55. 55.

    R-Jud

    January 25, 2019 at 6:58 am

    @Kay: Carter Page?

  56. 56.

    Lapassionara

    January 25, 2019 at 6:58 am

    @Kay: Probably that low intelligence guy who is one of Ari’s guests from time to time. Or maybe Corsi.

  57. 57.

    debbie

    January 25, 2019 at 6:59 am

    Between Stone’s arrest and hearing an interview where Ben Carson sounded positively humane, Friday is starting out great!

  58. 58.

    Baud

    January 25, 2019 at 7:00 am

    “Miss. Nancy is not going to give you that wall’

    Faye Smith was awesome.

    https://youtu.be/-rWlBwgVOl4

  59. 59.

    Kay

    January 25, 2019 at 7:00 am

    @Jinchi:

    Ron Johnson’s name is not on it. He’s not wrong to blame McConnell, but he and the rest of the Republicans who complain quietly about the shutdown could have ended this before it even started.

    They’re not mad that McConnell won’t open the government. They’re mad that McConnell made them vote on something.

    They don’t want to do anything– they’re now literally afraid to vote. On anything. The plan was no one would blame them because no one would even know they were there.

  60. 60.

    debbie

    January 25, 2019 at 7:01 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Probably even stupider than W vs. Chavez was.

  61. 61.

    debbie

    January 25, 2019 at 7:04 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:

    Bezos must have made her say that. //

  62. 62.

    SRW1

    January 25, 2019 at 7:05 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    “Organization1”. No wonder our boy in London is getting so nervous and went to court against his landlord. I don’t think this is any more about how he cares for his cat.

  63. 63.

    Alien Radio

    January 25, 2019 at 7:05 am

    @Kay: isn’t it that journalist that stone was trying to persuade to take the fall as the cut out for the hacked files? I forget the name, but this is the guy that stone wanted to claim had supplied assagne with the files. and If my suspicions are correct, the actual cut out is Nigel Farage.

  64. 64.

    JPL

    January 25, 2019 at 7:05 am

    The RNC picked a fine day to decide to support trump for the 2020 election.

  65. 65.

    Plato

    January 25, 2019 at 7:05 am

    David fucking gregory on cnn. Ugh.

  66. 66.

    debbie

    January 25, 2019 at 7:06 am

    Schlemazel, thinking of you on this cold morning and knowing how happy you would be to hear of Roger Stone’s, er, predicament.

  67. 67.

    Kay

    January 25, 2019 at 7:06 am

    @Jinchi:

    That to me is part of what’s so extraordinary about what Pelosi has done here- she’s become THE congressional leader. She took it on. She’s just really under-rated as a leader, in general. I mean, NOW she looks like a genius but that wasn’t guaranteed! If it had gone bad w/Trump she would have taken all the blame, just because there IS no one else.

  68. 68.

    Plato

    January 25, 2019 at 7:09 am

    @JPL:

    Clueless cowards.

  69. 69.

    debbie

    January 25, 2019 at 7:09 am

    @Kay:

    She has always been extraordinary. Why else would the GOP so revile her? They have done everything they could to diminish her and defeat her, and yet, here she is.

  70. 70.

    JPL

    January 25, 2019 at 7:09 am

    This might be good news for the federal workers, because ending the shut down would change the subject.

  71. 71.

    CliosFanboy

    January 25, 2019 at 7:10 am

    FWIW, traffic in DC seems noticeably lighter…

    We are so fortunate that my wife’s job comes under the larger DOD umbrella (and I am not a govie or contractor)

  72. 72.

    trnc

    January 25, 2019 at 7:11 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Kushner had lost his full clearance a few months before, after it emerged that he had failed to disclose adequate information.

    He didn’t “fail.” He deliberately filed one false report after another.

  73. 73.

    Alien Radio

    January 25, 2019 at 7:11 am

    Randy Credico… that’s the witness he was tampering with.

  74. 74.

    Tony Jay

    January 25, 2019 at 7:11 am

    @Alien Radio:

    isn’t it that journalist that stone was trying to persuade to take the fall as the cut out for the hacked files? I forget the name, but this is the guy that stone wanted to claim had supplied assagne with the files. and If my suspicions are correct, the actual cut out is Nigel Farage.

    If this turns out to be true….

    “Hey, Nigel. Fancy another all-expenses paid trip to The States? Nigel? Nigel?!? Has anybody seen Nigel?”

  75. 75.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 7:15 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    I like how Mueller is taking pieces off the board. It may feel slow, but for every Roger Stone there are probably ten witnesses that have given truthful testimony even against their interests. We will learn later, but I guess the witness tampering goes to Stone’s aid who fought his subpoena — and ultimately lost.

  76. 76.

    Alien Radio

    January 25, 2019 at 7:16 am

    @Tony Jay: I think He was angling for a media gig on the Trump TV network. Further proving that all these motherfuckers were completely screwed by Trump actually winning, but yeah, lets see if Nigel’s keen on taking a trip to the US now.

  77. 77.

    JCJ

    January 25, 2019 at 7:18 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Love that picture! I like the way Andre Igoudala is leaning in.

  78. 78.

    TS (the original)

    January 25, 2019 at 7:18 am

    @debbie: She is also winning with the media. The past attacks and attempts to bring her down have all but disappeared. She has held the democrats together during this time, they have allowed her to take 99% of the action & her behaviour and words have been so close to perfect.

  79. 79.

    debbie

    January 25, 2019 at 7:21 am

    @TS (the original):

    Take that, Tim Ryan, you bastard!

  80. 80.

    Immanentize

    January 25, 2019 at 7:23 am

    @debbie: And let us not forget the soon to be primaried Seth Moulton in Mass.

  81. 81.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 7:23 am

    America’s most expensive home sells for $238m to hedge fund boss

    The hedge fund founder Ken Griffin’s new home offers a prestigious address on New York’s Billionaire’s Row, dreamy Central Park views and 34 times the square footage of a typical Manhattan apartment.
    ………………………….
    “New York is known for extraordinary deals, but this deal is extraordinary in every measure,” said the real estate investment expert Daniel Levy, chief executive at New York’s CityRealty. He said the previous record for the highest-priced home sale in New York City was the $100m spent by Michael Dell, founder of Dell Technologies, in a new high rise on west 57th Street. “This blows everything else away.”

    “Wow, I hope he got a lot of bathrooms for that price,” said Philip Mangano, who served as the US homelessness czar under George W Bush and now heads the American Roundtable to Abolish Homelessness. (Details of the interior layout are in fact scant.)

    Mangano said the new record was emblematic of the disparity between the rich and the poor in America, which has been growing for decades. When times boom, he said, the good prosperity doesn’t trickle down to the poor; it merely drives the price of housing up further and creates more homelessness. The latest homeless count for New York City found 78,676 people.

    “There is a lot of housing being built for those who are making a lot of money,” said Mangano. “There is very little housing being constructed for those who earn less than 30% of the US median income.”

    Griffin’s purchase of the approximately 24,000-sq-ft unit in a newly constructed, super high rise at 220 Central Park South comes days after he spent $122m on a London mansion near Buckingham Palace, Bloomberg reported.

    Griffin, who founded the Chicago-based hedge fund Citadel, is said to have made a string of super-high-priced real estate purchases in the last few years, including spending hundreds of millions of dollars on properties in Chicago, Miami Beach and Palm Beach Florida.

    2 Ways Hedge Funds Avoid Paying Taxes

  82. 82.

    Kay

    January 25, 2019 at 7:24 am

    @debbie:

    She has always been extraordinary.

    Well, because she’s winning :)

    If it had been a big disaster and people were like “Trump has convinced us! Build the wall!” she’d be considered..less extraordinary. It’s funny how holes get filled- someone needed to step into the empty space where “Congress” should be and she did.

  83. 83.

    OzarkHillbilly

    January 25, 2019 at 7:30 am

    Stay! Really nice picture.

  84. 84.

    Ken

    January 25, 2019 at 7:31 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Wikileaks, which the document calls “Organization 1”.

    I’m confused. I thought “Organization 1” was the RNC – or was it the Trump campaign? Or the Trump Organization? There are to many corrupt unnamed organizations to keep track of, in this investigation.

  85. 85.

    debbie

    January 25, 2019 at 7:34 am

    @Immanentize:

    Indeed. There’s plenty of room in that boat of despair!

  86. 86.

    debbie

    January 25, 2019 at 7:35 am

    @Kay:

    Nancy doesn’t do disaster. She never has.

  87. 87.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    January 25, 2019 at 7:44 am

    @Kay: Yeah, what I don’t understand is why she faced any leadership challenge at all when Chuck Schumer just pretty much takes up space as the Senate minority leader. I know the leadership in the Senate didn’t change but has anyone asked whether Chuck might want to pull out any trick in the books to stop the judicial appointments and other shenanigans? Mitch used every trick in the book and Schumer should be paying him back in kind. Yet he doesn’t seem willing to go to the mattresses over anything. I can’t think of a single piece of major legislation with his name on it.

    The smartest, and only useful, thing he’s done as the Dem leader of the Senate is just go along with whatever Pelosi wants to do now that she’s speaker again. He was nowhere to be seen on the Kavanaugh hearings. Seems like we could find someone more useful to be our top dog in the Senate. I mean, he’s in a rock solid blue State and could be taking risks to push the Overton window back towards the left but he is completely risk averse.

  88. 88.

    Tony Jay

    January 25, 2019 at 8:06 am

    @Alien Radio:

    I think He was angling for a media gig on the Trump TV network.

    Or something bigger. The Leave campaign gravy-train was pulling into Brexit Station and good old bluff, straight-talking Nige couldn’t get off it quickly enough. Too much competition at the top now that the Tories were officially taking over the gig. But America, hell yeah, time to cash some of those checks, matie! I think I recall a half-arsed attempt to get Nigel made UK Ambassador to the United Republican Party of America, but all he got was a few speaking-gigs and the slowly dawning realisation that he was without friends, without funding, and without anything fresh he could offer in trade once the Eye of Badass-Law turned its gaze upon him.

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer frog-faced bile-peddlar.

  89. 89.

    FlipYrWhig

    January 25, 2019 at 8:44 am

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: I saw an interview with Gillibrand between the election and the start of the new term wherein she backed Schumer for minority leader 100%. The Senate is full of ambitious people. If the D senators want him to lead them, they probably have their reasons.

  90. 90.

    Chris Johnson

    January 25, 2019 at 11:17 am

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: It’s possible Schumer is a traitor, a bought man. If he simply refuses to fight the Republicans that’s a very effective way to disable the Democrats. Some of his behavior seems to contradict that horrible judgement, but then he keeps on not fighting and being so passive. We do need better, even if he’s not a traitor actually working for the Republicans/Russia.

  91. 91.

    Lalophobia

    January 25, 2019 at 11:25 am

    @Chris Johnson:

    We do need better, even if he’s not a traitor actually working for the Republicans/Russia.

    Maybe it’s still to early for me, but what?

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