Early Reviews Open Thread: Democratic Party Sensibly Rejects Hostage-Taker’s Demands

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    Yarrow says:

    Nancy SMASH is the very best. So glad she’s Speaker. She’s such a boss.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Yarrow: I feel 1,000 times better about this situation than I would if Nancy Smash was not the *Vader of the House.

    Vader was an autocorrect of Leader. I decided to leave it. She’s not dark like Vader, but she probably scares them just as much.

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    Yarrow says:

    @WaterGirl: She needs some awesome theme music for when she walks in a room.

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    debbie says:


    That shot of her walking out of the White House in her red coat donning her shades says it all.

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    Yarrow says:

    @debbie: It does. Just need the right music every time she shows up. Something cool but that lets everyone know who’s in charge.

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    delk says:

    One of the habits I am trying to develop this new year is to take some time each day to learn Polish. Today’s lesson was the verb ‘to speak’. Every time I started to type speak the predictive text suggested SpeakerPelosi. 😃

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    Immanentize says:

    @Yarrow: I recommend the theme from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
    Performed by the Danish National Orchestra — really, do not miss this!
    It has Nancy Smash all over it….

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    zhena gogolia says:



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    WaterGirl says:

    @Yarrow: @debbie: I’m down with that.

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    sdhays says:

    The only interesting thing about this “offer” is that when Nancy told the ASSet he couldn’t give the SOTU address in the House, McConnell apparently finally realized that House Democrats aren’t going to cave and that he would need to engineer a deal.

    I’m pretty sure that Trump understands (as much as his feeble mind understands anything) that as pathetic and disingenuous this offer was, it was a signal of weakness because he’s negotiating with himself in public and Democrats are offering him nothing. He’s being called out for “amnesty” by the worst of his supporters, and as ridiculous as that is, it still makes him look weak. And after all of this, he’s failed at putting any more pressure on Democrats.

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    zhena gogolia says:



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    Yarrow says:

    @Immanentize: Very cool. Not quite sure it’s right for Nancy SMASH but I loved it.

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    Citizen_X says:

    @Yarrow: “Trump has picked up the folding chair, and..”

    “Wait, what’s that?”

    “Oh my god, that’s Nancy Pelosi’s theme music!”

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    @delk: When I was growing up in Chicago many taverns had a sign out front which remains the only Polish I know today: ZIMNE PIWO

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    Nancy Pelosi is my hero!
    In the praise of the Goddess (Parvati, Durga, the female half of Shiva)
    Mahishasur Mardini (Slayer of Mahishasur)

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    Jackie says:

    @Immanentize: Your link took me to a vote for Geiko insurance contest 😂

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @John Revolta:

    Very important phrase. I saw those signs as recently as 1995. (i.e. not very recently, I guess)

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Immanentize: @Yarrow: I don’t know, I think maybe that would be perfect. You wouldn’t even have to play the whole song, just a few notes and it would have the desired effect.

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    Mo MacArbie says:

    Heh, there’s a RPG site that sells many games in other languages. One particular game is in what looks to be Polish, but the title seems familiar as a possible loan word: Fajerbol.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Immanentize: That would be cool!

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    delk says:

    @zhena gogolia: I still see them. We go for Polish food often. Both my husband and I are 50% Polish.

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    Aleta says:

    @Immanentize: That works perfectly.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Yarrow: And the rest of the country finally seems to be waking up about her. To think I had to spend so much time telling my True Progressive colleagues to give the old broad a chance, and not be so eager to throw her over for the leaderly leadership of one of The Youngs! Any Young, it didn’t matter, they couldn’t give me a name, but wow, that old Nancy Pelosi had to go because she was so *old* and not progressive enough!

    To be fair, my sister, who surprised me by spouting some of that horseshit, did spontaneously write to tell me, “you were right about Nancy Pelosi.” Still warms the cockles of my liver when I think about it. : )

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    Karen says:

    Trump chose his terms (with Pence,Kushner, etc writing their proposal) because he wants to be the hero. The Dems could save DACA and save the federal government if they just “compromise” and give in to Trump.

    Something just popped into my head: Trump has already demanded that the IRS workers work unpaid and they’re not essential. I think that Trump is going to demand all the federal employees go back to work unpaid. I think that he’ll do it because the Dems dare “defy” him.

    Please someone, someones tell me and explain to me why this can’t happen. I need to be talked down big time.

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    Howard Appel says:

    I suggest The Ride of the Valkyries for the Speaker’s theme music.

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    White & Gold Purgatorian says:

    @debbie: Yeah, I’m old, but Helen Reddy’s “I am woman hear me roar” works for me as Nancy’s theme song.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    To be fair, my sister, who surprised me by spouting some of that horseshit, did spontaneously write to tell me, “you were right about Nancy Pelosi.” Still warms the cockles of my liver when I think about it. : )

    That is excellent. You can remind your sister of it the next time she doubts you.

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    pluky says:

    @Yarrow: “Hit Me With Your Best Shot” — Pat Benatar

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    dnfree says:

    “I love to crush the other side and take the benefits,” he wrote in a book called Think Big. “Why? Because there is nothing greater. For me it is even better than sex, and I love sex.” He went on to observe: “You hear lots of people say that a great deal is when both sides win. That is a bunch of crap. In a great deal you win—not the other side. You crush the opponent and come away with something better for yourself.”

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    Bill Arnold says:


    It does. Just need the right music every time she shows up. Something cool but that lets everyone know who’s in charge.

    Protesters used to mock (or tease) Dick Cheney[1] with the Imperial Death March (John Williams) on portable sound equipment (a game with the Secret Service), so there’s precedent. This time it would be supportive. eta to be clear, some other tune.

    [1] A friend told me his anarchist friends used to do this. Only record I can find on google is AG Ashcroft being harassed this way.
    [2] This comes to mind – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB8LUZjg-RI (John Wick 2 trailer)

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    Mai Naem mobile says:

    Counter offer should be for Trumpov and Pence to both resign. He can have his wall then.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Jackie: That is a weird intertube effect. I get the symphony orchestra!

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    Jackie says:

    @Ken: YES!!!👍🏻

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    Jackie says:

    @Immanentize: It’s all good. I love all the Good/Bad/Ugly music. I knew which song you meant – even without the link.👍🏻

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Love this!

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    Immanentize says:

    @Jackie: Ah, but the orchestra version is really something to check out. Especially the Soprano on the balcony toward the end singing the theme from the graveyard gunfight….

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    Immanentize says:

    I am talking you down. Nothing to fear!

    The Pres. already signed the back-pay bill that passed the Congress. This has greatly relieved my furloughed friends who shared your fears before he did so.

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    Jackie says:

    @Immanentize: The back pay bill? Is there a link?

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    Jackie says:

    @Immanentize: Looked it up and, yes…. chills down my spine. Thank you 😊

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    Jackie says:

    @Immanentize: That’s great for those folks who are willing to work with them re bills due. I’m hoping more landlords/banks than not are willing to work with federal employees and government contractors trying to survive.

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    akryan says:

    @Karen: He probably can, but I think at that point the public unions really would just say “fuck it” and strike even if it was illegal.

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    Sasha says:

    Strictly speaking, Trump didn’t take away DACA protections, he let them expire.

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    TomatoQueen says:

    @Immanentize: That is eerie and great fun.

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    Aleta says:

    Pelosi could enter to the 1st verse of Think Twice, Laverne Baker:
    I said you better think twice
    Before you walk out that door
    I’ve got news for you, little boy
    You ain’t got a mother here no more
    So you better be nice
    Better take my advice
    Hey yeah
    Think twice

    Listen to me
    Think twice

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    Groucho48 says:


    How about Fanfare for the Common (Wo)Man?

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    jc says:

    Ryan Lizza says: “Upending the lives of DACA recipients and then using them as hostages for an absurd and useless wall as hundreds of thousands of government workers go unpaid is one of the most immoral polices any modern president has pursued. Can’t dance around this. It’s just awful.”

    *That* is what I want to hear Nancy Pelosi say, in those clear, blunt terms. Tell Trump that his wall is fake policy — and by the way Trump voters, he was playing you all along.

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    xjmueller says:

    Paraphrasing a Stones tune from 50 years ago. It’s good we have her.

    Oh the Speaker looks so fright’ning
    With her gavel in her hand
    When she gets home to her children
    She’s a family woman
    But when it comes to the nitty-gritty
    She can shove in her knife
    Yes she really looks quite religious
    She’s been a politician all her life

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