My facebook account is closed to the public, meaning that only people I know personally, who follow me and whom I follow, can see what I post. So basically, the only people who can see what I say and post have signed up for this shit and know full well the hot mess they are dealing with. Despite that, I am somehow run afoul of facebook’s community standards:
You know what passes facebook’s community standards? This:
That’s right- Alex Jones, despite being very publicly banned from facebook, is back in full force:
Alex Jones, the rabidly anti-LGBTQ conspiracy theorist who hosts the web-show InfoWars was banned from Facebook, YouTube, iTunes, Twitter and Vimeo last year. But he has apparently snuck back onto Facebook, and so far he’s getting away with it.
The Daily Dot reports that Jones’ InfoWars is now available on Facebook via three pages called NewsWars, InfoWars Live 24/7 and Prison Planet.TV. All of them run anti-LGBTQ content which conflates LGBTQ rights with pedophilia.
Jones has admitted that his company operates NewsWars and its related website, NewsWars.com, but he has denied personally running any of the Facebook pages.
Many of the NewsWars.com posts contain InfoWars videos, helping Facebook users connect with Jones and his anti-LGBTQ and Islamophobic views despite formally being banned on the world’s largest social network.
Fuck you Zuckerberg, you piece of shit nazi enabler. And I can say that here, because as you all know, we have no god damned standards.
Elizabelle
That’s ridiculous. Fuck Zuckerberg. Break up Facebook.
Quinerly
I have said worse at least once a week for 9 years on FB. Was it because you said “white trash?” I really don’t understand. I think someone who follows you had to report your page for some odd reason.
tybee
perfect. :)
TaMara (HFG)
Hey, you’re speaking my language. My blog got banned from Facebook for a month because I dared show Bixby’s naughty bits. My cousin, who is a marketing/web design guy, so deals with the capriciousness of FB daily, had to intervene. I am now able to post my racy recipes and pet pics.
may
This happens to us women often in private accounts for writing things like “men are trash” or anything considered to be unkind to white men. But reporting actual rape threats gets a big old nothing response.
geg6
Ridiculous. But pretty sure it’s because you said “white trash.” Plus, someone may have reported it. Cull your “friends” of whiny snowflakes.
Quinerly
Speaking of Info wars. WTF??? Roku.
https://digiday.com/media/roku-adds-infowars-channels-six-months-platforms-banned/
zhena gogolia
So happy I’ve managed to never have anything to do with Facebook.
A Ghost To Most
I’m glad to see you are where I was in 2005. Counting on greedy people to do right is a suckers bet.
rikyrah
Absolutely ridiculous on them….
Lips pursed…
Jim, Foolish Literalist
are there enough facebook-skeptics on facebook to make a one week boycott something that would cause fear-like sensations in the Zuckerbot?
A Ghost To Most
@zhena gogolia: Yeah, us too, and companies that rely on Facebook for their web front just do not get my business.
trollhattan
@TaMara (HFG):
Uh, wut? Did a smaller, less-bestowed dog complain?
A Ghost To Most
@trollhattan:
Trump did.
Keith P.
@Elizabelle: The easier path is to just watch as Facebook eventually becomes a punchline, ala Myspace. If so many sites didn’t use Facebook as an identity service, I wouldn’t even have an account.
hells littlest angel
FaceBook: an online retirement home common room. Complaining the housekeepers are stealing from you — old folks, what can you do? Complaining about management — hate speech.
BigJimSlade
Wow. Jeff Foxworthy must not be able to post anything on facebook!
Brickley Paiste
Anyone who uses facebook supports the elimination of privacy, facilitating foreign interference in our elections, and just generally making the world dumber.
A Ghost To Most
@Brickley Paiste: Oh look, it’s BorisInPutinland.
Mary G
Facebook is a Republican front, having a lot of their money pour in from Russia.
Kay
Josh Campbell
Several.
rikyrah
DA PHUQ????
‘I can’t tell you what the emoluments clause means’: Trump’s AG nominee admits he doesn’t understand the Constitution https://t.co/cWZ5FfI0w3
— Raw Story (@RawStory) January 15, 2019
Keith P.
@hells littlest angel: I can’t say it’s worse, but Nextdoor is similar in the bitchin’ n’ moanin’. As a lost pet finder, ND is great. Ditto for tracking flooding in the neighborhood (Houston), but what kills it for me is the large number of people who are using ND to tattle on their neighbors. And not in the “I think there’s a meth lab next door”, but in the “Here is a picture of the car I encountered that didn’t come to a complete stop at the stop sign” or “To my neighbor whose dog will not stop barking…”
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
How much money do you think could be raised if there was a Pay-Per-Event of someone beating the shit out of Zuckerberg?
chloe
Man, for someone who’s so self-conscious about his little hands, you’d think Orange Julius Caesar would have his jacket sleeves tailored so his stubby little digits weren’t poking out the ends like a kindergartner wearing dad’s shirt as an art smock…
Stuart Frasier
Why is anyone still on Facebook? They are bad actors and are one of the reasons we are in our current state.
rikyrah
Robert Mueller’s office, in a new court filing, says that it wants more time with ex-Manafort associate Rick Gates as he “continues to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations.” pic.twitter.com/0ex3p4f6XI
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 15, 2019
Another Scott
Re Zuckerberg – When someone shows you who they are, believe them. (1:07)
Sorry, John, but you’ve known what FB is really all about for a long time.
Cheers,
Scott.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I think these sites like Facebook have really become public utilities, and the law should treat them that way. I wouldn’t presume to guess about the odds that this might ever happen.
A Ghost To Most
If you are not the customer, you are the product.
Immanentize
@Kay: @rikyrah:
Is anyone surprised? What surprises me is that people think Mueller is where they are in knowledge when he is probably half a year ahead of what we learn from the press. Six months is a lot of investigative time. If we know what we do about collusion, imagine what the Mueller team knows.
Immanentize
@A Ghost To Most: Nowadays you are both the customer and the product. Pay to be sold!
Yutsano
@rikyrah: In a sane time, that would be enough to spike his nomination.
In a sane time.
But the Republicans are just going to let him sail through. I see it happening already.
Protip Mr Barr: you’re going to be required to be a Constitutional scholar as Attorney General. Hell even the Elf answered questions like this better and we knew his hearing was cursory.
Quinerly
@Keith P.: Nextdoor is a nightmare. Won’t go near it.
smintheus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Why do Democrats continue to use FB at all after Zuckerberg helped to ratf*ck the election?
Brickley Paiste
@A Ghost To Most:
You are really dumb.
Brickley Paiste
@smintheus:
Shhhh… don’t upset Balloon Juice’s master of counter-counter-counterespionage @A Ghost To Most …. his/her working theory is that Russia actually hates facebook, that’s why they us it.
Barbara
Other than staying in distant and shallow contact with people I don’t really talk to on a regular basis, as well as following activities of groups I participate in, like Indivisible, I don’t see the point of Facebook. Whenever a group or publication or blog that I used to participate in goes full Facebook on me, I stop participating. I did this before I had anything against Facebook, it just seems like it’s set up for shallow thoughts, and poorly formatted for anything else, be it keeping me informed or having anything that seems like a real discussion.
catclub
@Keith P.:
makes me wish I am that neighbor but not on NextDoor
Jeffro
@Quinerly: Eh, just use the filters and settings to narrow it down to whatever you want to see. Our HOA uses it and it’s been pretty easy to make sure I don’t see anything but HOA business/questions.
Btw in case anyone’s interested, this Barr guy is in no way to be trusted not to shut down/smother the Special Counsel’s many investigations. There is no reason other than trumpov-protection for a 68-year-old RWNJ to come out of the woodwork and jump into this mess. I’m not sure why any Democrat would give him the time of day or his/her vote.
Gex
Facebook’s algorithms are pretty insistent on policing critiques of whiteness and men.
Too many black people I know have gotten bans for discussing racist hate messages received from white people.
Too many trans people I know have gotten bans for discussing male toxicity. Too many women as well.
Their guidelines LITERALLY list “white men” as a protected group in their moderation training, but not “black kids” so…
I mean, the man went out of his way to say that Holocaust denialism is no big deal. They went out of their way to further anti-Semitic lies about Soros.
They picked a side .
Barbara
@Keith P.: My neighborhood group has a yahoo group chat board, and a few years ago, most neighbors migrated to NextDoor, and I just couldn’t use ND, at all. The volume is overwhelming and almost always pointless, even in the digest version. A few of us still use the old format, and however few there are, it still seems more useful to me.
lgerard
From the Guardian story on Christie’s book
trump secrets revealed!!
schrodingers_cat
I read Ted Koppel piece in Washington Post against my better judgment. It was awful
Apparently “we” are addicted to T. Speak for yourself and your fellow media minions, you self important piece of shit.
trollhattan
@rikyrah:
Seriously? “They’re not sending their best.” Interesting detail that he sent his trial balloon job application quals to the Federalist Society. When I’m in charge, Federalist is going on my enemy of the state list alongside the NRA–they do just as much damage to our country.
eric
Re: Facebook. As someone that follows fusion and guitar, facebook is an invaluable resource. I get to see other players and concert footage of bands that I love and who have no other public venue. The Allan Holdsworth page, for instance, is fantastic, as is “Jazz Rock Fusion.”
West of the Cascades
@rikyrah:
Not a totally crazy answer – I don’t think there’s ever been a judicial opinion interpreting it, and unless you are heavily into original meaning/intent/squabbles at the Constitutional Convention, most lawyers/judges/scholars would probably give the same answer.
germy
@Gex: Isn’t it the same with twitter?
MattF
I just don’t see how the poisonous Alex Jones is OK now. I guess Facebook management really wants that InfoWars demographic.
Bobby Thomson
@Quinerly: Facebook has bits that monitor all posts and even messages for things that violate Zuckerberg’s Puritan standards.
Mandalay
Well we got a new standard the other day, and it’s a good one…
I don’t know about the iPhone, but fingerprint login now comes as a standard option with the cheapest iPad.
germy
@catclub: I’m not on nextdoor, but it would seem like a useful tool to recommend or warn against home improvement contractors.
germy
https://boingboing.net/2019/01/15/roku-welcomes-conspiracy-theor.html
Brickley Paiste
@eric: Contributing to the subversion of democracy is really a pretty small price to pay in comparison to keeping up with fusion and guitar.
Sort of like — I hate child labor and destruction of American communities … but Walmart sells shirts for only $6.98.
You make your choices.
catclub
@schrodingers_cat:
well, most of what he was writing was that the WE was his fellow media that depended on the profits from the mutual relationship
of Trump and media.
JR
delete facebook!
I did it and its great
eric
@Brickley Paiste: i push my legislators to regulate the industry stronger….that is the democratic way. I protest Facebook’s lax standards. I buy Exxon gas as well. We fight where and how we can. We can even use Facebook to protest Facebook. If you think every product or service you use is free from public harm of some sort you are naive. I am pretty sure the electronic device you are using was not built in America and there is a good chance people with dramatically low wages were involved in its production.
schrodingers_cat
@catclub:
He is not talking about just the media.
Barbara
@schrodingers_cat: There is a difference between an addiction and a craze. We might be addicted to celebrity culture, which is what gave us Trump, at least in part, but we are not addicted to Trump.
Nicole
THAT “doesn’t follow community standards”? Have they seen the crap a right-winger of my acquaintanceship puts on his page? Oh right, IOKIYAR.
dr. luba
Same exact thing just happened to me. Literally seconds I quoted you verbatim in a comment on FB and was just informed that my speech “doesn’t follow community standards.” Nazis are ok, but “white trash” is a bridge too far?
As I was given the option of the decision being reviewed, I chose to do that. Will see what happens.
Interestingly, shortly after, FB recommended to me a double wide mobile home for sale near me. Only $430 per month. I am not making this up.
schrodingers_cat
@Barbara: I am not addicted to him at all. In fact quite the opposite. I go out of my way not to hear him speak or see his face on TV. I had stopped watching TV News for a year after Nov 2016. Even now I will quickly change the channel when they show him.
Mandalay
@schrodingers_cat:
Right, and Koppel is one of many.
All of those old timers have revealed themselves to be empty vessels with no more insight than the ambitious twenty-somethings on the cable news channels. Koppel, Donaldson, Brokaw, Rather….they’re all pompous windbags, with nothing useful to say.
If they had been born thirty years later the pinnacle of their careers would be reading the weather forecast and the high school football scores on the local news channel in Bumfuck, Iowa.
Pogonip
My local Nextdoor is very good. This is not an HOA neighborhood, maybe that’s the difference. To me, HOA’s always sound like paying lots of money to spend your life in the 5th grade with the mean girls.
raven
I posted it at the same time and no one saids shit to me.
zhena gogolia
@Mandalay:
I’d make an exception for Rather.
Nicole
@dr. luba:
That made me laugh. Soooo…. community standards only insofar as it doesn’t interfere with selling a person stuff, I guess?
Elizabelle
@schrodingers_cat: I do wish that networks (and radio) could know how quickly the remote goes “off” or chooses another channel when Trump appears.
I turn off the volume when he appears. I am not interested in hearing anything out of his mouth other than “Guilty, your honor.”
trollhattan
@dr. luba: @Nicole:
Screamingly funny! Hard to say whether the Ozarkian branch of my in-laws would feel similarly, but what the hey.
StringOnAStick
I used NextDoor to report an aggressive bear on a trail very near our home after it nearly mauled my husband (it got close enough that he was hitting it in the face with his rolled up rain jacket after he came around a corner to a bear running full speed at him). Then I found out it had clawed a guy who was jogging with his dog, so I reported it to the local Open Space agency. The next encounter was even worse in terms of aggression, and it was because she had 2 cubs but she was hanging out in a really busy area and obviously sooner or later someone, a kid, a dog or an adult was going to get badly injured so DOW shot them all. I had no idea DOW would do that when I first asked the Open Space agency to please put up an “aggressive bear” sign at the trailheads, I figured they’d move the bear (at the time we thought it was just 1 bear), but they don’t do that now because the bear population is high enough there aren’t places to drop them. So, a group that I suspect was feeding the cubs (because they were cute) went on a NextDoor jihad after me for being the first one to report what was going on; I was afraid for months that someone was going to vandalize our house or worse. I closed my account and hoped no one had our address but that isn’t that hard to find since they had our name. My sin was that I asked the agency to put up an “aggressive bear” sign, I never did anything other than that but I was blamed for the DOW actions.
Friends in another part of Denver had been having trouble with some ex-con neighbors and had been discussing the situation with other neighbors; they came home from a long trip to rape and death threats from the ex-cons posted on NextDoor. It took a bunch of complaints on their part to get the rape and death threats taken down. These two stories are why NextDoor can go DIAF as far as I’m concerned. If you want to get to know your neighbors, go meet them in person. NextDoor is a nexus for cranks, complainers, and worse.
The Midnight Lurker
@TaMara (HFG): Forgive me, I am old and confused and not on Facebook. I can barely work the ‘tubes’. But I have seen screen shots of some pretty creepy pages on FB, complete with some very disturbing images.
Let me get this straight – Bixby is a dog, right? And you got banned for showing Bixby’s junk?
Wow! I hope they don’t go over to my veterinarian’s page. She did a whole series on ticks and had all sorts of close ups on swollen animal naughty bits.
trollhattan
@dr. luba:
What would happen if somebody posted to FB a query about Betty White’s housekeeping? “I’m concerned that Betty is trying to do too much. Can somebody please help Betty and take out the White trash?”
#BettyWhiteTrash
trollhattan
@StringOnAStick:
The ND account for my neighborhood began benignly enough but eventually, mean people and trolls take over and ruin it, like virtually (heh) every other social media platform.
Somebody figures out how to fix that built-in issue and they will make a
million billiontrillion. Until then I’m here on the sidelines, waiting for the phone to ring via somebody who’s not a telemarketer. And that brings me to another rant….raven
We reunite lost dogs and their owners all the time using Facebook. And I read the fucking New York Times, so what?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Mnemosyne
@Stuart Frasier:
I have a lot of professional contacts on there, and there isn’t a good alternative for groups of people to be able to interact together right now. It sucks, but we’re stuck right now.
trollhattan
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
So, to be popular it’s best to be a Bush? How freaking weird is that?
Spanky
Woo hoo!
Et cetera. Buckle in, all you East CONUS residents!
Mandalay
@dr. luba:
That reminds me of the time the American Family Association auto-corrected their headline about the sprinter Tyson Gay:
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Brickley Paiste
“I don’t actually believe all of the extreme positions of the Party, but I became a member because it really helps me with my career.”
zhena gogolia
Not really OT, great new song, “Don’t Mansplain to My Wife”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd6sQHvsKvI&feature=em-uploademail
Dave
@Spanky: Welcome to the future.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
you have to stand next to a picture of Saddam while wearing flight suit costume
Kelly
My wife is on FB and Next Door so I derive some benefits while maintaining an aloof distance. Out here in the Cascade foothills FB is the fastest source of local news. Things like fires, crashes, storm damage, local government shenanigans. A lot of nonsense as well but she knows who to pay attention to. We live along a lovely little river that sometimes becomes a madhouse on beautiful summer weekends. Haphazard car parking blocking the road, drunks crashing, obnoxious drunks scaring families out of the parks, trespassing. One of our friends came home one Saturday evening to find a party had been going on in their backyard all day. Had to call the county sheriff to run break it up. Some of the locals used Next Door to organize and lobby the county to get the situation back under control. Increased sheriff patrols, no alcohol in the parks, parking only in designated spots with a permit. Last summer was a huge improvement.
Ked
I made a fake Facebook account about a decade ago when some things started streaming content there. It only designated a few friends, and those were all commercial entities, but the sheer amount of crap it glommed was appalling. Haven’t gone back in five years, and I never understood the appeal.
Did it get so big because it was a first mover, or is there something about it that I’m too abnormal to understand?
BruceFromOhio
You used the phrase “Pringles can.”
That’s some hot-button dog whistle right there, man.
Brachiator
@dr. luba:
That is both very sad and very funny.
catclub
@trollhattan: best to have a traumatic event, caused by outsiders, in your first two years on the job.
Also, Clinton lack of popularity in first two years, was GOP polarization already happening. It had not happened for Democrats to automatically hate GOP presidents, yet.
Gravenstone
@Jeffro:
Well, there is one additional reason. Barr was the voice behind HW Bush issuing blanket pardons on his way out the door, quashing any chance of justice for Iran-Contra. So don’t be surprised if he’s there to reprise that role with a potential President Pence.
Uncle Cosmo
@Broccoli Pus: Someday very soon I hope to be able to post about you something on the order of
Just don’t throw yourself in front of a fast-moving vehicle – while a noble intention, it would undoubtedly traumatize the blameless driver who facilitated your transmogrification into longpork tartare.
Frankensteinbeck
@trollhattan:
Wars. Particularly the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Bear in mind, Democrats are willing to accept the Other Guy. Republicans are not. Hell, it’s the foundation of their politics.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Polling shows that the white consumer at the 50% mark is a bigot who would rather not be reminded of that fact.
BruceFromOhio
@A Ghost To Most:
If the service is free, the product is you.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
also Clinton and Obama inherited saggging/crashing economy and a lot of dumb people after six months started whining “why haven’t you fixed it yet?”.
Gravenstone
@Bobby Thomson: Apparently they don’t care too much if you tell Facebook as an entity to fuck off, as I do it rather frequently when their system does something (okay, everything) annoying.
WaterGirl
@raven: So perhaps the speculation that one of Cole’s followers reported him was correct.
trollhattan
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That, I grudgingly get as a reflection of our extended national bout post-9/11 insanity, but how does HW achieve the same percentage? Admittedly, being not-Reagan was good enough for me, for a little bit anyway.
ETA Frankensteinbeck reminds me of our Gulf War One, havin’ some fun (and Cole nearly getting his ass blowed up). A hundred-hour prime time war is the best ratings draw America can possibly have.
catclub
@BruceFromOhio: I was thinking the pringles can was used to hold/hide a wine bottle. My family says there was no bottle. Any other guesses?
rikyrah
Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) Tweeted:
“If the US has someone whom historians will look back on as the gravedigger of American democracy, it is Mitch McConnell.” Provocative essay by major historian of Third Reich:
https://t.co/zJnT8bjFnX https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1084942105921896448?s=17
Barbara
@schrodingers_cat: You and me both. But I also avoid awards shows, Bravo “Real Housewives” type shows and much more celebrity infused popular content like TMZ or Access Hollywood, but that means that we are probably outliers, not that a significant part of the populations isn’t addicted to celebrity culture. Although, really, I disagree with the use of the word “addiction” in this context.
catclub
@trollhattan:
I bet his popularity went through the roof from July 1990 to Jan-feb 1991. getting a war on. A popular one!
Peale
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Also it turns out while everyone knows that something is wrong with our very expensive healthcare system that screws us over and bankrupts us, and that making changes to make it better poll really well, the public will freak the fuck out if anyone ever tries to change it in any way except for the worse.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@trollhattan: I was chalking it up to the first gulf war, but google reminds me that didn’t rev up till the fall of 90, so that wouldn’t explain such strong number over two years. Good economy, the press buying into George and Bar as our national grandparents. I remember the Panama invasion as more controversial, but did he get war president credit for that? I honestly can’t remember
Brachiator
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Reminds me of when some media outlets refused to use the word “torture” when describing US interrogation techniques.
Too many of these people simply do not understand the risks in accommodating Trump and the Republicans.
Gravenstone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I can understand W being that high due to knee jerk 9/11 hangover, but for the life of me can’t recall what HW might have been of similar popularity.
Mnemosyne
@Brickley Paiste:
NRA troll says, “Why can’t you stupid people who are required to use Facebook for work just find new jobs? Duh!”
BruceFromOhio
@catclub: Dear Gaia, stop there already, or you’ll get us both banned for life!
rikyrah
Open thread—The Brexit vote
That’s right, everyone. Vladimir Putin’s first serious attack against the West comes to a denouement today between 8 and 9pm BST. The House of Commons votes on Prime Minister Theresa May’s Brexit deal, and the tea leaves don’t look good for Mrs. May.
Let’s rewind to why this vote occurred: former PM David Cameron—he of pig-head fornicator fame—was facing grumblings from the Eurosceptics in the Tories who were making noises about making trouble for him in his last general election. So, to mollify them, he put a referendum on membership in the European Union in the Conservative manifesto. His party won, and the referendum went ahead.
Now, this referendum was solely advisory. It had no force of law. In the UK, Parliament is sovereign. Parliament had every right to disregard the results of the plebiscite.
J R in WV
John:
We do have standards, the ones you carefully put in place. No racism, no support of fascism, no hate speech about anyone but Republican fascist traitor motherfuckers. I like these standards, and find them easy to stay within.
I call Zuckerburg’s piece of work FascistBook now, even if it pisses off the folks I know that use it to stay in touch with family, arrange gigs, etc. It is what it is, and it is a work of shit.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@A Ghost To Most:
My personal opinion on businesses that rely exclusively on Facebook for their web presence instead of a traditional website is that it’s extremely unprofessional and doesn’t speak well of them
Brickley Paiste
“I mean, sure, I’m contributing to the destabilization of democracy but I HAVE A MORTGAGE TO PAY!!!”
Some people are so morally compromised that they they don’t even see the problem with that thinking.
SAD
Just One More Canuck
@Uncle Cosmo: very Cracker-esque.
Jeffro
@rikyrah: I’ve been forwarding and tweeting and FB-ing the crap out of that one. Chilling stuff, both on what’s happening domestically and on how autocrats around the world have realized they don’t need to conquer territory, cancel elections, or shut down the press in order to get what they want.
Spanky
Too soon to have a full article, but WTF?
(WaPo)
Ken
@Brickley Paiste: The Onion has been running an occasional series of reports from within the Nyarlathotep administration. Similar sentiments are expressed.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@rikyrah:
Oh, but that would be undemocratic. So let’s just jump over the cliff anyway because of a Russsian active measures campaign that made a slight majority of idiots vote to leave the best thing that’s ever happened to the UK.
joel hanes
@catclub:
Any other guesses?
In many jurisdictions it’s illegal to consume alcohol in some kinds of public spaces. Drunks stereotypically “disguise” their bottles and cans in paper bags.
So I’m guessing this person wanted to drink in public, and poured the wine into a Pringles can to disguise that act.
Gex
@germy: Yes
And YouTube is getting a lot less attention than it should but it was a huge problem before Facebook and has played an important role in the rise of GamerGate and the alt-right.
J R in WV
@raven:
Yeah, but you’re in Georgia! ;-)
schrodingers_cat
@Barbara: I haven’t had cable in since 2011. First it was out of necessity (no cable in our little hill town) and now its out of habit. Don’t miss it much, either. And I have never watched a Kardashian on TV.
Uncle Cosmo
The Book of Feces needs to meet a composting* toilet. (* SWIDT? :^D)
Aaaaand a new bumpersnicker to go with my PELOSI 2019:
trollhattan
The Barr hearings (why am I reminded of a chunky Elton John?) include some really weird stuff.
“Here, nation’s top law enforcement official, have a giant sack of money several times what you earn in a year. It’s because you love you, ya big lug!”
What in the name of sweet unicycling Ronny Reagan is the USAG, or any government employee, doing receiving a giant gift of money from invisible people?
different-church-lady
Yeah, that’s what you think.
Spanky
@trollhattan: Sadly, that question has been reduced to being rhetorical these days.
RICO all the way down.
randy khan
@Mandalay:
iPhones had fingerprint access for years before it came to the iPad, but all the current models use facial recognition and have ditched the fingerprints (as well as the physical button).
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Brickley Paiste:
You’re an asshole. Nobody likes you here so why do you always insist on coming back?
A Ghost To Most
@Brickley Paiste: Says the tool.
Mnemosyne
@Brickley Paiste:
Hey, not all of us get a steady paycheck from Russia. Some of us have to do actual work for a living.
But if you’re offering to pay my living expenses so I can quit my job, I accept! Send me your banking information so I can set up the automatic transfers to my account.
Doug R
@StringOnAStick: A fed bear is a dead bear.
raven
@J R in WV: Yea and I didn’t put “White Trash” in the header.
trollhattan
It seems like just yesterday that Cheryl linked to the Gillette “Don’t be a douche, bro” ad. Wait, it was a day ago. Some predicted backlash. Take a bow, y’all.
However.
raven
@Mnemosyne: Did you see that migraine info I posted?
A Ghost To Most
@StringOnAStick: I hope your husband is ok. Was that in a Jeffco park?
trollhattan
Netflix and bill.
Amir Khalid
@catclub:
It occurs to me that a Pringles can is not watertight.
Mnemosyne
@Ken:
Ah, but he’s not advising Facebook employees to quit their jobs. He’s advising anyone whose employer or freelance job uses Facebook to quit their jobs.
I guess my friend who just started a freelance gig doing PR for authors should give that up and go back to her grinding corporate job, because the corporate job doesn’t require her to use Facebook, so it’s obviously more morally righteous than working for herself. ?
NotMax
Drinking wine from a Pringles can = recycling.
Drinking wine directly from the box = déclassé.
A Ghost To Most
@Brickley Paiste: What party is that, Boris? The Party of Regions?
Mnemosyne
@raven:
I did, and I replied back. I really wish my stupid migraine auras would have a predictable pattern so I could recognize them in time to take preventative medication. ?
trollhattan
@Amir Khalid:
It is, at least for a time. They’re vacuum-packed, those little morsels of starch, fat and salt.
Cheap Jim
@Amir Khalid: Are you sure? They seem to be grease-tight.
Amir Khalid
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Don’t you get it, young Padawan? The people who call Pasty Bricks rude and his comments nonsense are his loyal fans. He keeps coming here to bask in our adulation.
Fair Economist
@trollhattan: Establish a monopoly, raise the price. Standard operating procedure.
To be fair, it still compares well to a typical premium cable package.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Amir Khalid: @trollhattan: clearly this calls for an investigation. I’m off to Wal Mart….
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
Pedantic pet peeve (and losing battle). Preventive. Unless one is looking to preventate something.
Amir Khalid
@trollhattan:
@Cheap Jim:
It’s made of foil-lined paper. Which I doubt has the mechanical strength to hold its internal volume in water.
Mike in NC
WaPo has a story up that Fat Bastard tried to invite a bunch of Democrats in the House to over lunch at the White House, where he would presumably serve them the cold leftover fast food garbage from the Clemson event. They all told him to piss off.
The Moar You Know
@StringOnAStick: My wife just introduced me to it and I have never been more appalled in my life. These are my neighbors? THEY’RE MORONS. Holy shit. They get up every day and manage to go to the bathroom without critically injuring themselves. It’s a wonder. And then they go to jobs and make house payments? People HIRE them? The mind reels.
Gravenstone
@trollhattan: Seems like a … sensitive bunch, those agitating against the ad.
randy khan
@Ked:
I’m not sure if it was a first mover (probably either FB or MySpace), but it’s a big beneficiary of network effects – if you want to find one of your high school friends you’ve lost touch with, the odds are much better there than anywhere else. And Facebook also figured out something that Apple also got – while techies want everything to be totally customizable, most users really want to just be able to do some stuff without having to figure out how, and want predictability in how they interact with a site or device. That probably was a big factor in Facebook dominating social media (and an equally big factor in MySpace’s decline).
A Ghost To Most
@Doug R: Yep. They feed the bears to keep them around, then bitch when they need to be controlled. String did the right thing. It’s hard coexisting with selfish assholes.
Mnemosyne
@NotMax:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
NotMax
@trollhattan
Netflix basic plan jumping from $7.99 to $8.99 – as increases go, not too bad.
ruemara
@smintheus: Some of us have jobs that require it. Some have family & friends who you can keep in touch with them that way. Rather than trying to break the back of something that’s already an overgrown monster, you might do better to regulate it.
randy khan
@trollhattan:
I think everybody who’s in PR knows that people who are unhappy are much more likely to complain than people who are happy, so they’re probably discounting the hate posts significantly.
A Ghost To Most
@randy khan:
It started on college campuses. The youngs picked it up and ran with it.
trollhattan
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That’s the can-do spirit!
Fair Economist
@Amir Khalid: I would have thought water would damage them, but after I poked around on the internet a bit it seems Pringles cans really are waterproof, at least for a while. In one video somebody even boiled water in one.
randy khan
@Cheap Jim:
They have to be airtight to prevent bad things from getting into the cans. (In addition to the bad, if kind of addictive, things that already are in the can.)
Barbara
Some may be interested to know that the vote on May’s Brexit deal is happening right now, with results likely to appear in the next 30 minutes or so.
She kept trying to delay it to create a crisis mentality that would take away any other choices.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Amir Khalid:
Really? And here I thought he was getting paychecks to come troll here. I’m guessing the exchange rate for rubles to US dollars isn’t very good these days, is it?
randy khan
@Fair Economist:
I’ve seen several efforts to figure out whether it’s cheaper to get cable or to cobble together something equivalent from over-the-top sources, and the results have seemed inconclusive.
Of course, part of what Netflix (and Amazon and the others) are doing now is creating platform-exclusive programming, so you can’t exactly replicate them from other sources.
Gravenstone
@NotMax:
Ann Althouse might beg to differ.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Barbara:
The EU said they could back out any time they wanted to. But that would be undemocratic and I guess they have to respect the results of a likely Russian-tainted referendum.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@randy khan:
Have you heard of Sling?
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: Holy fuck-ski. That’s crazy. Doesn’t sound like a democracy to me.
Brachiator
@trollhattan:
I wonder what competitor would be so stupid to launch an ad campaign based on the following:
NotMax
Speaking of price increases, just opened the latest Medicare premium bill, which went up.
Mnemosyne
@randy khan:
This. Techies vastly overestimate how much enjoyment non-techies get from trying to get computer shit to work. Most people just want to use the tool to do the project.
It’s like making a hammer so customizable that it takes an hour to prep it so you can hang one picture on the wall.
Brachiator
@Barbara:
She was helped along by the fact that no one offered any reasonable alternatives.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Made the mistake of turning on MSNBC in time to see the words “Senator Marsha Blackburn”. Now I just wanna go back to bed
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Gravenstone:
Didn’t she and John have a running feud a few years back?
I check out her Twitter feed from a few months ago and this lovely tweet came up:
Yeah, because cheating on your wife and attempted rape are the same thing.
Barbara
@Brachiator: That’s a reason to have the vote not delay it. Also, apparently when MPs vote they actually go to different places to vote yes or no, and right now, the no lobby is mobbed.
ETA: MPs reject May’s Brexit plan by 432 by 202 – a majority of 230
Theresa May’s plan has been rejected by votes to 432 votes to 202 – a majority of 230.
From the Guardian’s UK site.
Gravenstone
@Brachiator: Maybe one of the burgeoning bargain brands will jump on the opportunity.
Gravenstone
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: She’s had a running feud with reality for as long as I’ve been aware of her. But yes, she has been quite the subject of mockery here, so it wouldn’t surprise me if she and JC have had more than a few heated exchanges over time.
Yutsano
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Not looking really positive right now, no. But even replacing the American market for Chinese pig farms isn’t enough to move their GDP.And oil prices are still in the tank.
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
It was ever thus.
joel hanes
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Wal Mart
[makes warding gesture] Avert!
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Mnemosyne:
I’m young and I’m often overwhelmed by all the features on gadgets. I never use most of them. I only use my smartphone to text, browse the internet, make calls, do calculations, wake me up in the morning, and only occasionally use Google Maps as well as app games. That’s it.
I don’t need the super special Samsung fitness/biometrics crap.
frosty fred
@Mnemosyne: I compare it to the general acceptance of automobiles: Some owners do want to work on their own engines and understand every mechanism; most of us just use them to get from here to there and only want them to be reliable.
debit
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I had the hearings streaming because I thought it was important to witness, but I can’t with the Republicans. I’ll catch the recap on All In and Rachel.
JR
@eric: The difference being that Facebook is an eminently disposable resource. For >95% of its users it provides no economic benefit at all, which is quite different than gas or even consumer electronics.
Doug R
@Barbara: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/15/theresa-may-loses-brexit-deal-vote-by-majority-of-230
Miss Bianca
@Brickley Paiste: How do you stand the burden of being so morally superior to the rest of us? Don’t your arms ever get tired from hugging yourself?
NotMax
@Brachiator
I don’t mind when a UI includes a hundred options which I’ll never use. I do mind when the basic functions are non-intuitive.
ruemara
Also, if Seattle Juicers want to have a meetup, well, you don’t have to hurry because you don’t have to do it when I’m there, but if you’d like to have one when I’m there, decisions need to be made. I arrive Thurs, so if you’d like to do the dining thing, I guess contact me since we haven’t really jelled anything. Otherwise, still have a meetup at some point! You’re all there and so is food and then send pics.
Doug R
@Brachiator: Perhaps someone at Gillette realized they sell razors to women as well.
Brachiator
From the Guardian:
Now the fun begins.
A little tidbit to pay attention to.
The DUP may have cut their own throats. They hated every proposal related to BREXIT and seem to think that they can make time stand still.
Rand Careaga
@catclub:
Someone observed at the time that GWHB’s poll numbers were at levels not generally observed outside countries in which door-to-door opinion surveys were conducted by the secret police.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Yutsano:
Ouch.
Rand Careaga
@Brickley Paiste:
We can’t all aspire to your empyrean moral standards, old son.
Major Major Major Major
One of my college friends keeps posting pictures of women protesting topless with a note that Facebook specifically lets you post pictures of women’s nipples if it’s within the context of a protest. The first couple were taken down but after successful appeal all the rest have stayed up.
At any rate, it’s not the content I’m looking for when I idly check Facebook on the train or at work, so I muted her. But good for her.
Gin & Tonic
@randy khan:
Why in the world would anyone want to do that?
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Brachiator:
I bet they’re going to love having a hard-border with Ireland.
Gin & Tonic
@Major Major Major Major: Now that you’re ensconced in New York, you should be aware that being shirtless in public is fully legal for all persons of any gender. I wonder if Facebook is aware of that? Although that’s probably not something you’ll encounter much in January.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Major Major Major Major:
But….
Oh that’s right. You’re what used to be called a “confirmed bachelor” ?
NotMax
@Gin & Tonic
Idle thought.
To where do the pantsless and topless street performers in Times Square decamp for the winter?
JPL
@The Moar You Know: It depends where you live. DIL’s nextdoor offers recommendations and a little gossip but not much. Mine is similar but we try to update on local city hall meetings and other community events. Of course we have the local coyote sightings and lost dog postings.
Yutsano
@ruemara: If by some reason yours doesn’t come together, we’ll have another chance as I’ll be over that way next weekend.I wish I could manage this weekend but unemployment is being asses about paying me. But I’m also considering a SoCal run once I’m back in a paid status, so other opportunities down there will emerge as well.
Major Major Major Major
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: I also don’t browse apps where I’m likely to see male nipples while at work or on the train.
@Gin & Tonic: it’s part of their attempt to comply with SESTA and FOSTA by banning anything even remotely sex-positive.
rp
@Rand Careaga: IIRC, Bush I’s approval rating immediately after the Gulf War was 91%.
JR
@Brachiator: Hang Farage and call it a day?
different-church-lady
@Keith P.:
For me, when that happened is when Facebook went from creepy nuisance to outright menace.
Brachiator
@NotMax:
I know what you mean. But even knowing what should be a “basic function” and how to make it intuitive takes talent.
I’ve worked with developers who took it as an article of faith that you should never even look at the user guide when you get some new product. You should just be able to work with it and figure things out.
Unfortunately, this attitude also reflected how they approached the products they designed for our customers. In a way, they wanted customers to prove that they were worthy of the time and effort the developers put into the product.
This kind of thinking, of course, is a recipe for disaster.
Raven
@Mnemosyne: OK, just wanted to make sure you saw it.
Amir Khalid
@Brachiator:
May did BBC interview recently where the reporter repeatedly asked what she would do if she couldn’t get her Brexit plan through Parliament. May’s repeated answer: she was focused on getting her Brexit plan through Parliament. I thought then, and I think now, that she was tacitly admitting that she had no idea what to do in that event.
Brachiator
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
If I understand things correctly, this can’t happen. It would violate the Good Friday agreement that brought some stability to the region.
Mike in NC
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: We were in Saint Petersburg in 2014 and I think the rate back then was 30 rubles to a dollar.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Gravenstone:
She has a blog too. Remember Trump serving cold fast food to the Clemson players? You’d think it would receive universal mockery. You’d be wrong. A typical commenter at Althouse:
And apparently, the Clemson quarterback loved the room temperature fast food:
But then again, what else could he have said? Though I believe he was sincere, unfortunately.
different-church-lady
@Gex:
They didn’t go out of their way: they chose it as their route.
hedgehog mobile
@Miss Bianca: /applauds/
Brachiator
@Amir Khalid:
I heard that interview. It was nuts. Some observers thought that no one in her party had any ideas and that she was hoping that the EU would offer some concessions that might save her bacon.
Unfortunately, the EU did not want to interfere or to side with anyone as long as it looked as though the British might work out some compromise.
Mike in NC
@Amir Khalid: Sort of like Trump shutting down part of our government. Stephen Miller had no Plan B.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Major Major Major Major:
I was only joking, so you know. Tumblr recently did the same thing back in December, which I joined by the way. It’s great! The only part I don’t like is that posts don’t have timestamps.
different-church-lady
@eric: And then there’s also the rest of the internet.
different-church-lady
@dr. luba: Try doing exactly the same post but substitute “Whyte Traysh”. Let’s see if it’s bots or humans doing the flagging.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Mike in NC:
I guess then that those sanctions have been hurting Putin something pretty fierce. Good.
different-church-lady
@trollhattan:
You can’t fix junior high school.
Gin & Tonic
@NotMax: Maui.
Brickley Paiste
Yeah the miners and the Wobblies and millions of other Americans with no money in the bank and little food in the cupboard strikes against their employers and got their heads cracked or fired from their jobs … but look for a job that doesn’t further entrench fecesbook? That is an INCONVENIENCE, Sir!!!
different-church-lady
@Amir Khalid: Well, clearly he’s not really here for the hunting.
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: I can’t wait until TaMara posts that photo of Bixby, lying face up on the couch, with a protest sign.
different-church-lady
@Brachiator:
I’ve met these people. They are idiots.
different-church-lady
@Brickley Paiste: Have you considered looking for a job that’s outside of where your head is currently entrenched?
Leto
Fucking preach. Zeroed, repeat for effect.
catclub
@trollhattan:
he was not a government employee at the time he got the money. He was just hired by some wingnut welfare front group and paid $1.2M because they liked the cut of his jib.
JustRuss
@schrodingers_cat: JFC Ted Koppel, we pay attention to Trump’s “ups and downs” cuz he’s the goddam POTUS, and the crazy shit he does affects millions of people. Is he seriously suggesting that if we just ignore him he’ll go away?
Litlebritdifrnt
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: Trevor Lawrence already said on Twitter that he never said that.
Miss Bianca
@Brickley Paiste: Oh, fuck off. Like you wouldn’t have been first in line to break a few Wobblies’ heads, you fatuous, scabby skidmark. Now just stick your head back up your ass where it belongs. None of us missed you while you were hopping around the bathroom trying to pull it out so’s you could impress us with your DEEP THOUGHTS.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Litlebritdifrnt:
MomSense
Fuck Zuckerberg.
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
Romance novelists keep getting banned from Facebook for having half-naked men in their book covers, which is like banning mystery or thriller authors for having a picture of a gun on their book’s cover. It’s a wee bit annoying.
Mnemosyne
@different-church-lady:
You gotta love how the troll keeps coming in and trying to stir up trouble by taking sides on a contentious issue, only to make all of us unite in our dislike for him. ?
Sebastian
@Gex:
And ISIS
WaterGirl
@Mnemosyne: I pied him long ago. He’s a waste of time and breath.
Origuy
I was in Moscow in 2013 and the exchange rate was 33 rubles to the dollar. Now it’s 67. I’ll bet the old pensioner lady I stayed with is really suffering.
May Merrill, Girl Reporter
@may: Facebook specifically seems to get triggered by the word ‘trash.’ I work in social media and some of the other things that get through are… Well, you can imagine. But the Facebook moderation robots are all over calling some one trash or trashy. ?
Procopius
@Barbara: I, too, use it for shallow interaction with people I otherwise have no contact with, primarily a couple of distant cousins who live on a different continent from me and several former students. It never occurred to me that anyone would think they could be informed from it., but sometimes one of my friends will share an interesting article about a scientific article. I assume any facebook page is as trustworthy as Fox News or CNN.