Wednesday Night Open Thread

It doesn’t matter how big or small the footstool is, we make room:

I’ve the conversations with my parents sound eerily similar to the conversation I had with my peers when I was stoned to the bejeezus. For example, dad just offered this up:

“How does a bald person with a beard know where to stop the beard.”

Back in the day, that could have dominated a stoned conversation for several hours. Or maybe it would have just felt like several hours.

163 replies
  1. 1
    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Elizabeth Warren wins the first Daily Kos 2020 Presidential Straw Poll (full results)

    Well, our first presidential primary straw poll of the 2020 cycle began with a bang! Nearly 35,000 of you voted! The results:

    Elizabeth Warren…….22%
    Beto O’Rourke………..15%
    Kamala Harris………….14%
    Joe Biden………………..14%
    Cory Booker…………….03%
    Julian Castro……………01%
    Kristen Gillibrand…….01%



    Turns out Wilmer wasn’t even popular with his own crowds, rather just a stand-in for others.

    also too, his cult always stuffs the online ballot box with repeated votes, and still, he did poorly.

  2. 2

    Well, to be fair, how does a bald dude with a beard know where to end the beard?

  3. 3
    Chris T. says:

    In my experience, beard hairs and head hairs are very different textures. Like cat whiskers vs cat fur. So it’s obvious where to stop!

  4. 4
    germy says:

    @Chris T.: Why does my hair and beard keep growing and growing, but my cat never needs a haircut? Her fur has stayed the same length for years now.

  5. 5
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
    Only the bald dude’s scalp has the power to decide this question: it ends where it ends, and that is that.

  6. 6
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    A few weeks go, Betty Cracker (I think it was) asked us to share — if we were willing — our political regrets. I didn’t comment in that thread, but for whatever reasons have decided to come clean tonight:

    Just so y’all know, full disclosure.

    In my early twenties, I was a Goldwater Girl. For several years, also, I hung out (literally, in person, ask me for details sometime) with Ayn Rand and her minions. I don’t admit to any of this with any pride, but it is part — an important, inescapable part — of my background.

    Since I broke free (1968), I have been an unrepentant liberal/progressive. But for some reason, it seems right for me to go public with this tonight. I’m braced, I think, for whatever vitriol may come my way.

  7. 7
    Lapassionara says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: How interesting. How did you break free?

  8. 8
    Amir Khalid says:

    I think that with shorthair cats. their fur only grows so long and no longer. Each single hair reaches max length, then stays for a while before falling off when the follicle cycles to a rest phase. Longhairs have follicles with a much longer growth phase. Of course all this is just a layman’s speculation.

  9. 9
    germy says:

    @Amir Khalid: I don’t particularly like sitting in barbers’ chairs, so I’m somewhat jealous of my cat who requires no such maintenance.

  10. 10


    Why does my hair and beard keep growing and growing, but my cat never needs a haircut?

    Human head hair is very unusual in that it keeps growing indefinitely. Most hair- including human body hair- grows to a set length and then stops. It eventually falls out and is replaced by a new hair that grows again to the same length. This is why people who let their body hair grow don’t need full body haircuts.

  11. 11
    Nicole says:

    I read this post aloud to my husband because I found it hilarious (who would think about something like that?) and he got very enthusiastic because he says he “often” thinks about where the beard should stop on a bald man.

    My mind is officially blown this evening.

  12. 12
    Chris T. says:

    @Amir Khalid: That is the correct explanation. All hair follicles have this pattern, of grow-rest-release-rest. Male pattern baldness occurs when the “grow” phase gets shorter and shorter and eventually stops entirely. Cats with short fur have short grow periods and longer rest periods. Cats with multilayer coats have different kinds of follicles with different periods (and different hair-thicknesses and straightness and so on).

  13. 13
    chopper says:

    How does a bald person with a beard know where to stop the beard.

    the proper answer to that is to pause for 10 seconds and then say “…fuuuuuuuck”

  14. 14
    Lapassionara says:

    @Chris T.: how interesting. Thanks.

  15. 15
    germy says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Human head hair is very unusual in that it keeps growing indefinitely.

    I wonder why, evolution-wise?

    Is there an advantage to that?

  16. 16
    Steeplejack says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    You line it up with some notch or landmark on the ears.

  17. 17
    frosty fred says:


    Is there an advantage to that?

    Well, since I’ve been bald it definitely hurts more to bang my head on something, and it’s more likely to cause a laceration.

  18. 18
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Roger Moore:
    I have long suspected that some guys with really abundant body hair do need periodic full-body haircuts, but are too embarrassed to share that with others.

  19. 19
    Steeplejack says:


    No vitriol, but, holy shit, what was Ayn Rand like in person?! In the literature she comes across as a harpy with a strange ability to draw people in.

  20. 20
    germy says:

    Ted Cruz’s Once-Adequate Beard Has Evened Itself Out With the
    Inadequate Man It Rests Upon

    It’s the result of simultaneously being too manicured and not tended to enough.

    (And I see Beto has grown one, too)

  21. 21
    JaySinWA says:

    @Amir Khalid: I suspect you are considering only involuntary baldness (imbas?) as opposed to voluntary baldness (volbas?) but even imbas may chose to make a demarcation between beard and what hair may be left. Speaking as one who is neither bald (yet) or bearded (generally) so not particularly reliable in opinion.

  22. 22
    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Serious question? I was studying music at Hunter College. Ayn Rand was saying publically that Bach was heartless and Beethoven had a negative malignant sense of life. Something clicked in me and I went all “Yeah, No,” and that was that.

  23. 23


    I wonder why, evolution-wise?

    Is there an advantage to that?

    There is a lot of speculation about this, but it’s really hard to come up with a definitive answer. The theory I remember best- which doesn’t mean it’s the best theory- is that it’s a way of signaling fitness for sexual selection. Maintaining healthy hair is supposedly a sign that you’ve managed to stay well fed, free from parasites, have time to groom adequately, and so forth. In other words, it’s a sign that you’re prime mating material.

  24. 24
    Baud says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: You’re so cool.

  25. 25
    SiubhanDuinne says:


    SiubhanDuinne: You’re so cool.

    Well shit, if I’d known you were going to react like that, I would have fessed up weeks ago.

  26. 26
    Msilaneous says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh my goodness, I would love to sit down with you and hear your stories. What an interesting life you lead. Thanks for sharing.

  27. 27
    Amir Khalid says:

    I am myself bearded and noticeably thinning on top, and thus a kind of near-imba. I have no idea how much credibility it gives me, if any, on questions relating to hair. (Incidentally, I have a nephew who started losing hair at 18 and at 20 is now a total imba. Not the youngest guy I’ve seen that happen to.)

  28. 28
    Chetan Murthy says:


    what was Ayn Rand like in person?!

    I can’t find where I read about it (someplace linked off aldaily, but … >10yr ago) but she was exactly as awful IRL as in her books. Like: she took up with a much-younger (25yr gap iirc) lover (Nathaniel Branden) and expected her husband to just take it. Got pissy in enormously public way when the lover dumped. her. eventually. Signed-up for and got social security benefits. The story of these affairs (when I read it) was hilariously sordid.

  29. 29
    Mary G says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Bach heartless? WTF?

    I love that you escaped from the libertarian borg. You are indeed a badass jackal. You need to write a memoir, or get in your car and travel the country visiting Juicers who need a pick-me-up.

  30. 30
    Amir Khalid says:

    Nothing could make Ted Cruz’s face look less bad, not even a Werewolf-style all-over beard.

  31. 31
    Omnes Omnibus says:


    a negative malignant sense of life

    She would know.

  32. 32
    Yutsano says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: “Is that Ayn Rand in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?”

  33. 33
    chris says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: You… monster!

    Haha! Glad you managed to escape the barbarians.

  34. 34
    debbie says:


    I knew a couple of people who had socialized with her and their opinions meshed with yours. They also knew Bonnie Golightly, which I found much more interesting.

  35. 35
    Gvg says:

    OT but I wish to note that the ads today have been actually pleasant instead of something to be not noticed. It’s been mostly and pet products instead of one weird trick and conspiracy theory news. In my experience internet ads are actually terrible at figuring out what I might buy. They funniest mistake they make is to keep showing a product I researched and actually bought two years ago and won’t need again for years. Or putting too much weight on what I buy around Christmas when we all buy for other people temporarily. I really dislike the crack pot news and products though. This blog ought to attract pet product ads IMO.

  36. 36
    germy says:

    WASHINGTON — Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has agreed to deliver a classified briefing to U.S. House lawmakers on Thursday on his recent decision to lift sanctions on companies linked to a Russian oligarch and Vladimir Putin ally, marking the start of an aggressive new focus on Mnuchin by newly empowered House Democrats, according to two top Democratic aides.

  37. 37
    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I’d be glad to do a conversation at any time on my (totally subjective) recollections of being on the outskirts of Ayn Rand’s orbit. Mind you, it was 50 years ago, and I bring a lot of personal baggage to the discussion, but I’m game!

  38. 38
    raven says:

    Easy, have a shaved head and goat.

  39. 39

    @Baud: Of course she is, she has met me IRL.

  40. 40
    SiubhanDuinne says:


    She definitely had an uncanny ability to draw people in. Her eyes were just fucking amazing. Really hard/almost impossible to resist.

  41. 41
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: For several years, also, I hung out (literally, in person, ask me for details sometime) with Ayn Rand and her minions.

    was Alan Greenspan bearing a cup?
    ETA… or fifty years ago, had he grown too old for her?

  42. 42
    poleaxedbyboatwork says:


    Ayn Rand was saying publically that Bach was heartless and Beethoven had a negative malignant sense of life. Something clicked in me and I went all “Yeah, No,” and that was that.

    Literally, a musical bridge too far.

  43. 43
    Baud says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I wouldn’t be skittish about that. I’d be more ashamed of telling people who you hang out with now.

  44. 44
    Baud says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Are you Ayn Rand?

  45. 45
  46. 46
    Karen says:

    @Amir Khalid: What is an imba?

  47. 47
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Mary G:

    You need to write a memoir, or get in your car and travel the country visiting Juicers who need a pick-me-up.

    It’s really interesting you would say this now, because I am quite literally plotting out tentative cross-country driving trips to take place over the next two years, and one of the key determinants of itinerary will be what jackals where are available when?

  48. 48
    Lapassionara says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: amazing. Great story. If you take the cross country trip, please come to St. Louis.

  49. 49
    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Of course she is, she has met me IRL

    The two of us combined are probably the baddest badasses amongst the entirety of BJ jackals.

  50. 50

    @SiubhanDuinne:I will take the compliment, but I was just pulling Baud’s leg. I want to be you, when I grow up!

  51. 51
    oatler. says:

    @Amir Khalid: “I heard they shaved a gorilla.”

  52. 52
    SiubhanDuinne says:


    You, and Quin, and Ozark? Not to mention all the folk in southern Illinois? Wouldn’t miss it!

  53. 53
    SiubhanDuinne says:


    PFFFTH! You can do much better! Be YOU when you grow up.

  54. 54
    Lapassionara says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: great. Marco Polo too. Ozark knows the best bbq joint. Sounds like a winner to me.

  55. 55
    lamh36 says:

    So…what should me and the sis do in LA guys? I mean I’ve been before, she’s never been.

    I rented a car, mostly because we arrive at the airport on the last flight and are leaving out on the first flight…so I didn’t want to worry bout Uber. Also too, the money spent on Uber to and from airport to hotel, to shrine and around the city I coiuld just rent a car, and pay for parking or find parking around where we want to go

    With wet/overcast weather is expected in LA, what should we do?

  56. 56
    Amir Khalid says:

    JaySinWA coined the term for “involuntary bald guy” upthread, #21.

  57. 57

    @Amir Khalid: Then that would be an inba, what is imba?

  58. 58
    WereBear says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: dagnab! That’s a fascinating past.

    But you did wake up 😀

  59. 59
    WereBear says:

    @Amir Khalid: You are correct, Amir. This also means a tabby cat’s stripes, move.

  60. 60
    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Amir Khalid: I can think of something that would make Rafael Crooooze’s face look less bad: Its appearance on a WANTED poster. I mean, sheeyit, I’d go down to the local post office every day just to enjoy the sight of that ugly mug hanging there.

  61. 61
    Steve in the ATL says:


    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh my goodness, I would love to sit down with you and hear your stories.

    I have done this very thing, and I highly recommend it! There was also wine.

  62. 62
    Amir Khalid says:

    You’ll have to ask him. It’s not my coinage.

  63. 63
    raven says:

    @lamh36: LAX, Burbank or John Wayne? I don’t know if you saw my last post but here’s the Getty link again. It’s free and mostly inside.

  64. 64
    WereBear says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: What a dark person she was. I took an honors seminar on her, once.

  65. 65
    raven says:

    @lamh36:Since its inception in 1965, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) has been devoted to collecting works of art that span both history and geography, mirroring Los Angeles’s rich cultural heritage and uniquely diverse population. Today LACMA is the largest art museum in the western United States, with a collection of over 135,000 objects that illuminate 6,000 years of art history from new and unexpected points of view.

  66. 66
    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: For a femtosecond I thought you were asking whether Greenspan was wearing a cup & saying to myself, Yup, real ballbreaker there, wouldn’t want to go anywhere within kicking range without protection…

  67. 67
    Fair Economist says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Ayn Rand thought Beethoven had a negative sense of life. But Rachmaninoff was fine! Consistency FTW!

  68. 68
    randy khan says:

    I don’t really feel like I can compete with Ayn Rand here, but I did want to post this obit of the “Godmother of Title IX.” It’s a great story, and of course Title IX is really important.

    The Godmother

  69. 69
  70. 70
    Dan B says:

    @germy: Human hair growth? Fabio, of course… (yuck!)
    Jason Momoa, hmmmm. Yasss!

    And found out he and Kenny Kravitz hang out together. Kravitz ex is Momoa’s wife. They all seem to have fun together and Kravitz does some great work bringing dental and medical assistance to his isolated home island. Kravitz current l9ng hair looks like fun in his concerts.

  71. 71

    @WereBear: Another Russian-Republican connection working to undermine democracy.

  72. 72
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @randy khan: dude, trigger warning required. No blind linking to the FTFNYT!

  73. 73
    raven says:

    I think lamh36 has pied me.

  74. 74
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: And so modest, too.

  75. 75
    Joy in FL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I would love to read anything you felt like sharing.

  76. 76
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @raven: if she could just get off of that LA freeway without getting killed or caught….

  77. 77
    JaySinWA says:

    @schrodingers_cat: A contraction by someone with sloppy fingers and a sloppy mind. I blame the cold I’m getting over.

  78. 78
    randy khan says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    You know, if you hover over the link, you can see where it goes.

    That said, if you want a definitive obit, the Times is the place.

  79. 79
    raven says:

    @Steve in the ATL: The lights of LA county, shine like diamonds in the sky. . .

  80. 80
    Barbara says:

    @raven: I love LACMA. It is not far from the tar pits, 3which are also interesting.

  81. 81
  82. 82
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @randy khan: doesn’t always work on my iPhone. Maybe Tim Cook hates me?

  83. 83
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Dan B:
    Surely you mean Lenny Kravitz, who was Lisa Bonet’s first husband.

  84. 84
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Barbara: I had a response to your post from yesterday or the day before, but I never actually typed and posted it. Which is a shame, because it was both witty and elucidating.

  85. 85

    @SiubhanDuinne: I think you’d alluded to this before.

  86. 86
    A Ghost To Most says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: You are my hero. My best friend in the USAF, and best man, turned into a greedy Randian libertarian, and we parted ways a few years ago. I’m hoping this whole shitstorm will bring him to his senses, since he was my favorite off-roading partner.

  87. 87
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: SD is a BJ treasure, so just keep to yourself your opinion that her posts are boring and repetitive!

  88. 88
    poleaxedbyboatwork says:


    She definitely had an uncanny ability to draw people in. Her eyes were just fucking amazing. Really hard/almost impossible to resist.

    This, to me, is fascinating. Have read about this phenomenon, tho haven’t encountered it myself. Must be weirdly enervating but eerie and decidedly unsettling. Certain folks who attain a cult of personality (Hitler, Rasputin, Rand et al.) apparently oft possess this magnetic hypnotic effect of mesmerizing with their eyes and words in person (and not even eloquent words necessarily, more an imposition of will?).

    The arresting eyes themselves coupled with the riveting intensity sounds like they (can) create an ability to persuade others all out of bounds to the mere spoken word alone.

    Wondering: Was Ayn Rand quite aware of this aspect and worked it? (Seems likely, but curious your experience if willing to share.)

    Thanks for sharing your story.

  89. 89
    Mike in NC says:

    Never mind the scruffy beard. Ted Cruz would look better without a face.

  90. 90
    Dan B says:

    @raven: I second LACMA. The buildings are great architecture and quite varied. It’s fun to explore them, although the Japanese building can be very dark on overcast days. Across the street is an auto museum. There are plentiful food trucks and a nearby market with lots of variety. (Skip the alligator po-boy unless you have razor sharp teeth and the bite strength of an alligator.)

  91. 91
    A Ghost To Most says:

    @germy: I understood that hair follicles take a break from time to time, then start over. Is that crap?

  92. 92
    Ruckus says:

    @Roger Moore:
    I’ve known a couple of guys who really, really did need a body barber. One of them could grow such a full beard at 16 that he once passed in a bar for being older than his dad, who was about 45 at the time. Dad got carded, son didn’t.

  93. 93
    Jeffro says:

    So…speaking of all these marriages and remarriages…there’s the Bezos thing…

    1) Apropos of almost nothing, it brought to mind Eddie Murphy’s routine in RAW about “half! Half, Ed-die!” Ouch, Jeff! That’s a $68.5B “half”

    2) No idea of the circumstances of course but being a Verified Internet Commentator, I have to say…wtf? late mid-life crisis?

    3) And of course the National Enquirer is on the case…ugh…

    Anyway, clearly he’s just like the rest of us, give or take $136,999,999,500…

  94. 94
    Jeffro says:

    @Mike in NC: you mean, without a head…

  95. 95
    Mayim says:

    Guessing imba is ‘involuntary bald’ with a linguistic adjustment of the n in involuntary to m because of the following b ~ that change is pretty typical. Generally, across languages, when choosing between m and n before another consonant, m precedes b and a few other letters/sounds, while n works better with other sounds.

    It’s been a long week (made much longer by the hassles of a broken foot) and my MA in linguistics was 25 years ago, so the name of the phenomenon is escaping me at the moment. Not 100% correlation but very common.

    ETA: explanation for Spanish….

  96. 96
    Burnspbesq says:


    Serious question? I was studying music at Hunter College. Ayn Rand was saying publically that Bach was heartless and Beethoven had a negative malignant sense of life. Something clicked in me and I went all “Yeah, No,” and that was that.

    I know I’m going to regret asking this question, but … what sort of music did she like?

  97. 97
  98. 98
    frosty says:


    You’re [SuibhanDuinne] so cool.

    Second that. If nothing else, focusing on rhythm as much as rhyme did it for me.

  99. 99
    Ruckus says:

    I’m not entirely bald but the top of my head glistens and I have a full beard. So where do I stop trimming the head so I don’t end up looking like bozo the clown? Where the beard starts of course.

  100. 100
    frosty says:


    The funniest mistake they make is to keep showing a product I researched and actually bought two years ago and won’t need again for years.

    LOL, exactly. I’m getting ads for a jacket I researched the hell out of, ordered in two sizes, decided neither one fit, and returned them both.

  101. 101

    Balloon Juice seem to have a lot of bald men. I wonder what that means.

  102. 102
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    someone said the other day that twitter needs some kind of “not dead” tag for trending celebrities. Maybe also a not me, too

    in other news, apparently Tommy Chong is participating in some sort of reality or game show

  103. 103
    Msilaneous says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Next time you visit southern New England (I’m in RI). I’ll look forward to it.

  104. 104
    frosty says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’m getting ready to retire at which point we’re planning some long Road Trips. While I’m not plotting where the jackals are, I’ll try to comment on where we are every now and then and see what works out.

  105. 105
    Brachiator says:


    Why does my hair and beard keep growing and growing, but my cat never needs a haircut? Her fur has stayed the same length for years now

    There’s a secret cat barbershop.

  106. 106
    Ruckus says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    Have a cousin who was bald in his late 20s, IOW you could see mostly skin. 35 yrs later, he has the same amount of hair, and while then I had shoulder length hair and a full beard, I now have far less hair than him on the old noggin.

  107. 107
    Burnspbesq says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    if she could just get off of that LA freeway without getting killed or caught….

    She’d be sweeping out a warehouse in West L.A.

  108. 108
    frosty says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Which is a shame, because it was both witty and elucidating.

    So, not your typical comment, then?

  109. 109
  110. 110
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Fair Economist:

    Oh yes, Rach was her favourite composer.

    Little-known, but true, fact: Her favourite novelist was Mickey Spillane.

  111. 111
    Bobbo says:

    Omg I love your dad

  112. 112

    @Barbara: Heh, not far from the tar pits, actually LACMA is built on top of the part of the tar pits.

    ETA: The original buildings used to have reflecting pools, until the tar started to seep into the water in the pools.

  113. 113
    Brachiator says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Coming late to the thread and can only say Wow to your past association with Rand. Would also love to learn more about the evolution of your political outlook.

  114. 114

    @Dan B:

    The buildings are great architecture and quite varied.

    Well, for now. They’re going to tear it all down and rebuild it with a new design.

  115. 115
    frosty says:


    Balloon Juice seem to have a lot of bald men.

    /raises hand/
    Dammit!!!! It started thinning at 19. I’d be standing in front of the dorm room mirror wondering “How can I be a hippie without any hair?

  116. 116
    opiejeanne says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I worked for Goldwater too, but Holeee Shit! Ayn Rand?
    I was 13 and Mom hauled me along when she volunteered at the local HQ, and I licked envelopes. And somewhere I have a nice little note to me from Pat Nixon. Mom met her at a tea when Dick ran for Government. They went to the airport when Nixon’s plane came to LA when he ran for President in 1960.

    I recovered from my Republican upbringing because they also hauled me to Sunday School every week, and I noticed the cognitive dissonance by the time I was 12. Something had to give because the two could not exist in me.

  117. 117

    Who’s a good boy? Cole’s a good boy! That’s right! A very good boy!

  118. 118
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @schrodingers_cat: I am not among them. I have so much hair I once joked with a hairdresser about using gas-powered tools. Lots and lots of hair. thick and fast-growing.

  119. 119
    Fair Economist says:

    @Burnspbesq: Rand’s favorite music was light classical, and her favorite composer was the light opera composer Franz Lehar (considered second tier today). But then she liked Rachmaninoff. She criticized a number of the big classicap composers and then approved of a few. All of these choices were supposedly absolutely required by Objectivistic philosophy even though to everybody they seemed as random and arbitrary as anybody else’s choice and maybe even extra odd.

  120. 120
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Msilaneous: Huh. Another one.

  121. 121
    frosty says:

    @opiejeanne: My Republican Committeewoman mom took us out of school to see Nixon whistlestop through our podunk South PA town. Last year I started wondering if it really happened and found his schedule online, and yes, he was there. That was just before the PRR abandoned the bridge over the Susky that connected us to the world*. Or so it seemed at the time.

    * ETA Philly

  122. 122
  123. 123
    Brachiator says:


    The museum of modern art has a great Charles White retrospective, through January 13

  124. 124
    Dan B says:

    @Amir Khalid: Yes, Lenny…. Kravitz. Scuse the typo. My bad for not proofing.

  125. 125
    mad citizen says:

    Why so many balds? (Me included) How about BJ’s demo includes a disproportionate amount of old farts?

  126. 126
    Barbara says:

    @opiejeanne: My dad took all of us to the airport when Eugene McCarthy came to Pittsburgh in 1968. He vacillated between Kennedy and McCarthy. It is all so surreal to me now that we went from that world to this one.

    Also love LACMA, especially the German Expressionists in the context of their migration to Southern California.

  127. 127
    Dan B says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: The new scheme from a few years ago looked wild.

  128. 128
    Ruckus says:

    We are old. Gravity has pulled all the hair off the tops of our heads. Damn Gravity!

  129. 129

    @Brachiator: I clicked on locations and it showed me Queens and Manhattan.

  130. 130
    joel hanes says:


    I wonder why, evolution-wise?


    One possible mechanism is sexual selection:
    the species-recognition mating preference,
    which can get into a local positive-feedback loop
    until your males look like this :

    Various average human traits have been attributed to sexual selection at one time or another, including long hair, reduced body hair, diminished lower face, especially in women, smaller teeth, gracile upper bodies and smoother skulls in females, language ability, and steatopygia.

  131. 131
    opiejeanne says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: How about Seattle?

    Although, depending on the date St Louis could work for us.

  132. 132

    @Dan B: I think that may still be the plan.

  133. 133
    rikyrah says:

    You look so comfortable 😎😋

  134. 134
    Dan B says:

    @frosty: Stephen Miller seemed to have an idea of how to -something – Chia Pet? from his TV appearance a few weeks ago. Not sure it would work for hippie…

  135. 135
    Steeplejack says:


    Yeah, the White show’s not getting to LACMA until next month.

  136. 136
    opiejeanne says:

    @raven: Why would she pie you? Did you have words?

  137. 137
    Msilaneous says:

    @Gin & Tonic: We’re everywhere.

  138. 138
    Brachiator says:


    I clicked on locations and it showed me Queens and Manhattan.


    I totally blew it. I was flipping through sites on my phone during my commute…

    Looking for MoCA and got MoMA

  139. 139
    Dan B says:

    @opiejeanne: Seattle here also but at the other end, and completely different than opiejeanne’s neck of the woods. Our end is gentrifying for interracial hip couples in one direction, artists industrial in another, and 90% non white- 56 languages where we live. Our part is very lower middle class family, less hip but culturally wild.

  140. 140
    joel hanes says:


    In my early twenties, I was a Goldwater Girl.

    At 17, although I despised Nixon, I was a Youth Delegate to the 1970 Iowa Republican Statutory Convention in the Hotel Fort Des Moines. We debated the death penalty; I’m not sure how I voted.
    (I was on the HS debate team, too. And surreptitiously smoked bummed Tareytons.
    Might as well confess to the whole sordid mess.)

    Watching 1970’s senior Iowa Republican cohort drink, convene, adjourn, drink, and seek late-night hotel adventures was a nightmare revelation of sorts: to my teenage eyes, they appeared to be Skexis.

  141. 141
    rikyrah says:

    Dear White Reporters,

    Even though she is bi-racial, Senator Kamala Harris has had more of a “regular ” Black experience than Barack Obama.

    Because she has…do some research.
    A reporter following Harris did not…and, the result is unfortunate.


    Chelsea Janes (@chelsea_janes) Tweeted:
    Members of her Howard sorority are in the room, and screeched when she mentioned her time there. Did not expect to hear screeches here.


    The responses are pure gold….among my favorites:

    For Wakanda?! No question! (@lbrass3) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes Oh my. This tweet was… unwise 😒
    Coup de Foutre (@babylonbetty) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes Ooh, chile, you and your mentions about to go through all the stages of grief in one day.

    Keisha ________ (@Hey_MissKeisha) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes Wow. When the AKA’s are done roasting you, you’ll be assigned to the Home & Garden section of the Washington Post

    sister, you are welcomed in this house (@StyleandGrace_1) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes Your a journalist . You know that word choice is important … obviously obviously obviously the “screeching” that you so disrespectfully described here has some type of cultural or historical significance. It’s strange that a journalist would make this error


    La Coyote (@satnitespecial) Tweeted:
    @chelsea_janes I’m just here to watch the lovely women of Alpha Kappa Alpha gather this peasant and read her for filth. Continue on, ladies

  142. 142

    It’s the weekend. Visit the Museum of Jurassic Technology. The story is some rich conservative Christian guy died, and left an endowment with instructions to build a museum to house evidence that humans coexisted with dinosaurs. So the historians bought a house, looked around at the empty rooms, and went “Okay, that’s done. Now what do we do with the rest of the space?” So they filled it with oddities.

  143. 143
    rikyrah says:

    In moderation, please help

  144. 144
    poleaxedbyboatwork says:

    @Fair Economist:

    She criticized a number of the big classical composers and then approved of a few. All of these choices were supposedly absolutely required by Objectivistic philosophy even though to everybody they seemed as random and arbitrary as anybody else’s choice and maybe even extra odd.

    That there is a deeply abidingly weird impulse shared by totalitarian ideologues of any stripe. Think Hitler decreeing art that “serves the Reich” vs. “degenerate” art that undermines it. Soviet agitprop designed to win over the masses. Hell, even National Review douchebags are defensively “inspired” to rank films and rock songs by dint of (what they think) are most exemplary of conservativism.

    (And generally embarrassing themselves with a complete misunderstanding: Think Reagan Republicans grocking to Born in the U.S.A. as some sorta anthemic ‘Murica-fuck-yeah! jingo-fest.)

    There’sa certain miserable deformed contorted type a person for whom art don’t exist, just propaganda.

  145. 145
    Jay says:


    I don’t blame gravity. Gravity doesn’t explain my hair moving from the top of my head, to inside my nose and ears and down to the back of my neck.

    Has to be some kind of real estate rezoning scam.

  146. 146
    poleaxedbyboatwork says:


    That’s bad enough, but gravity is also a duende trickster. Removes hair where you wants it n displaces it to where you don’t!

  147. 147
    Dan B says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Just fyi my Uncle Jack and Aunt Jean lived in Glendale right up by the mountain / hill. Worked at JPL, Lunar and Mars Explorers. Only visited them once. We saw them at gatherings in Arkansas and Lake Michigan. My cousins turned out emotionally damaged, sad.

  148. 148
    opiejeanne says:

    @poleaxedbyboatwork: I met David Koresh. Once. He was prosetyzing on the steps of the main library in Riverside, CA and he turned and spoke to us; we instinctively drew back because the intensity of his eyes and his personality was quite frankly scary. He became very offended and I felt bad and tried to apologize but he refused to hear it and went off in an angry snit.
    A few years later, when it all hit the fan, we recognized him and shuddered.
    I don’t think it has anything to do with intelligence, I think I’m just allergic to anyone with that much intensity.

  149. 149
    lamh36 says:

    @raven: Hey nope. I dont’ have a pie filter. Just been busy and haven’t checked back.

    Thx for the suggestions. I love those…I’m not too sure my sister would though…I’m thinking maybe 1/2 day “formal guided tour” then drive to Santa Monica for some fun on the pier? Even with rain or overcast it should be ok right?

    Then Sunday before the Shrine, I’m thinking maybe the GRAMMY museum…my sis LOVES Whitney Houston and music, so the Grammy museum would be right up her alley…hmm

  150. 150
    sukabi says:

    @rikyrah: original tweet was deleted…got a Sorry that page does not exist….

    Don’t think she liked being dragged.


  151. 151
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @frosty: trump taught me the value of using ghost writers!

  152. 152
    gwangung says:

    @sukabi: Heh.

    I did point out that what she did was the equivalent of wandering about Lubbock, TX on fall Saturdays and wondering at the numerological significance of the number 12.

  153. 153
    randy khan says:


    Janes literally just moved from being the Post’s beat reporter for the Washington Nationals to covering the Presidential campaign. She did a good job with the Nats, but this is a big change for her, to say the least. She’s going to have some adjusting to do.

  154. 154
    opiejeanne says:

    @frosty: My parents left us next door with my grandparents while they went to greet Nixon that night. I think the only politicians I met before I was 30 were Goodwin Knight when he was the governor of California and I was a baby. He was a baby kisser and I got kissed. And a US Senator named Henry Kuchel. His campaign button was shaped like a little key with his name on it, because his name was pronounced Kee-kul. Mom didn’t like him because he was a “liberal Republican”.
    Here in WA we seem to rub elbows with politicians quite a bit, but it’s a small state compared to CA.

  155. 155
    opiejeanne says:

    @Barbara: I can’t imagine how we got here, politically, even though we all watched it happen. I just don’t understand it at all.

  156. 156
    opiejeanne says:

    @Dan B: Where the heck are you?
    We are on the East side, the wilds of Woodinville, but we have a car and are not afraid to drive.

  157. 157
    opiejeanne says:

    @poleaxedbyboatwork: During the W administration I wandered into a discussion among a group of conservatives who were fans of Terry Pratchett because they thought he was not only a conservative like them, but also a libertarian. I don’t remember which book they got this idea from, but I know it wasn’t Jingo.

  158. 158

    When I was younger, I dreamed of having a beard and then just continuing it up over my head as wide as the beard, so it would just look like a loop.

    Then I got older and I could actually have grown something like that, but thought better of it. Now I want to again, but can’t grow the hair atop my head thick enough to pull it off.

  159. 159
    opiejeanne says:

    @gwangung: You would get a lot of the same reaction around Seattle, any time of the year for the same reason. Lots of big buildings draped with blue flags with the number 12 on them.

  160. 160
    Dan B says:

    @opiejeanne: We’re in mid Beacon Hill three blocks from the Vietnamese Buddhist Monastery, two blocks North of New Holly. We’re a mile east of Georgetown and a mile south southwest of Columbia City.

    Our little development was built for black employees of Boeing after the war. Now it’s black, Chinese, Vietnamese, Philipino, Somali, and more. 10 % N European white.

  161. 161
    poleaxedbyboatwork says:


    Conservatives is weird.

    That, and some peeples seems to know everything about a work of art except how to, you know, enjoy it.

    “I’ma yolk art to my principles and PULLLL dammit!”

    Thanks for sharing your anecdotes.

  162. 162
    Ruckus says:

    You’er kidding, right?
    Gravity works in one direction, towards the center of the earth. The hair previously on the top of your head went in the direction of the center of the earth. Ergo gravity moved your hair. That it found places that you don’t like to grab onto to fight the effect of gravity is just tough noggies. That back of the neck part is from when you lay down. You spend more time upright than laying down, right? And your nose and ears are the catch points for when you are upright. Some will end up on your face and the front of your neck, causing you to have to spend more time trying to shave it off or taking the lazy, easy way out and growing a fucking beard. Also some people grow a beard because they have tremors and that causes them to not like putting a razor sharp tool against their skin every day, which increases the chance of slitting their throat. And the impetus to do that grows just a wee bit every day that the shitgibbon is in office. So a beard is also a political self defense object.

  163. 163
    Barry says:

    I’m skipping over comments above, so this may have been mentioned.

    There are two Getty museums, both free. They are great!

Comments are closed.