It’s A House Party: Trish Zornio For U.S. Senate and Open Thread

Trish in Boulder, Colorado, 2017

Hey there Colorado peeps, one of our own is holding a house party for Patricia Anne Zornio. And if you’d like to attend, send me an email and I’ll pass it along to the host and you’ll get an evite.

About Zornio:

Patricia (Trish) Anne Zornio is a Colorado-based scientist and educator currently exploring for the U.S. Senate in Colorado, 2020. In a time when facts, reason, and everyday Americans seem to be forgotten, Trish has boldly stepped forward offering a new type of political candidate.

At 33 years old, the journey to a possible U.S. Senate candidacy began in 2015 when Trish was attending several U.S. Senate hearings in Washington, D.C. During the hearings, Trish came to realize the problems she saw first hand in healthcare, education, and technology existed in part because there weren’t the right experts at the table. She found no scientists on the science committee, and very few senators with practical experience in healthcare, education, or environmental work. There were also committees with only men making healthcare choices for women, and many senators expressed confusion by current technologies that her generation use daily. She also recognized the vast majority of senators were incredibly wealthy, with the youngest person being over 40 years old — a fact that leaves the largest generation in America without any representation.

With her background, Trish spent over two years studying law, economics, foreign policy, and more. She studied campaigns with a fine-toothed comb, and read every campaign finance law and interpretation through the Federal Elections Commission. At the local and state level, she asked for meetings from current legislators to assist them with policy research and development, helping quietly behind the scenes, all on the side of her work at the university. Then, in mid 2017 she set out on an ambitious statewide exploratory tour, determined to hit all 64-counties to show the people of Colorado she was not only serious, but that she truly wanted to know what they needed most.

Today, Trish has visited 63 out of 64 counties and met with thousands of Coloradans. She has given dozens of talks on the role of science in policy and is actively working on a book. Trish continues her legislative efforts at the Colorado State Capitol and mentors other scientists in the legislative process. She also still teaches several courses at the University of Colorado Denver, namely behavioral neuroscience and research methodology, while continuing to mentor students in their academic pursuits.

But Trish wasn’t always a scientist…

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For the rest of you, open thread.

I just got back from walking the dogs around the lake. It was 60 degrees and balmy here today. I have no pet pictures to share at the moment. My bad.






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    I forgot to add, I’m also frying chicken without oil. The technique here: Crispy No Oil Fried Chicken

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    Yarrow says:

    She sounds great! We definitely need more people with a science background in government.

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    lamh36 says:

    Good eveing BJ.

    Long day at work, now I’m watching National Treasure and surfing the net for some non-triggering fluff and random news stories.

    So ready for the Golden Globes tomorrow as a much needed distraction from all the politico mess.

    How is everyone else’s weekend going?

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    lamh36 says:

    SMH…leave it to Republicans.

    I’m not inclined to care much bout AOC…she’s not my rep, and as long as she reps for her consitutents and they like her…then whatevs..

    But damned if the right and their idiot stans don’t make me inclined to support AOC just cause they so obviously bothered by her…smh

    @ValerieJarrett
    Follow Follow @ValerieJarrett
    More Valerie Jarrett Retweeted Andrew Lawrence
    That “little girl” is about to rock your world. Underestimate @AOC at your own risk.

    @ndrew_lawrence
    Lou Dobbs guest Ed Rollins refers to sitting congresswoman @AOC as “the little girl”

    https://twitter.com/ValerieJarrett/status/1081615365451468801

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    Dan B says:

    The OTA, Office of Technology Assessment, was disbanded years ago. It produced reports on the utility and viability of emerging science and technology for Congress in a way they could understand. It would be wonderful for Nancy or someone else (hello Pramila / Adam Smith) to introduce a bill to remedy the shortcoming.

    It was probably eliminated because of climate science.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    We’re finally getting some rain in So Cal today, so I’m procrasti-cooking this FODMAPs-friendly beef stew. I actually kind of hate when recipes say things like “6 carrots” because sizes can be so variable. Based on what they had at Whole Foods, 6 carrots and 4 parsnips with 1 pound of beef seemed like a LOT of vegetables. I ended up putting in 2 good-sized parsnips and a bag of baby carrots. And a half-cup of red Zinfandel.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    I spent the day alone with my two toddler grandchildren. Indoors, because it was pouring rain all day. They are now in bed, and I am in need of an alcoholic beverage. This is a young person’s game. The kids are delightful, of course, but they have a lot of energy.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    I can also say that Trish has a lot more energy than this old fuck.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @lamh36: Huh. I wonder if Ed referred to Aaron Schock as “the little boy” when he was elected at a younger age than Ms Ocasio-Cortez. I suspect not.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Aw, shucks.

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    Wag says:

    She sounds really interesting. Count me in!

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    waratah says:

    The Senate and House will not know what hit them when we can get women like her and the women just elected. I would really like to shake up the senate with more women.
    Now I am going to look at fried chicken recipe.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    In the wake of NY day’s seafood paella, my wife is making Arroz de Marisco I’m not sure what the rest of you are having but I can say,

    It sucks to be you.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Given Schock’s reported preferences and Rollins quite clear prejudices, he likely used the same descriptor then as he did when discussing AOC.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    She may be a great candidate, but if/when Hickenlooper gets in, she would likely lose in the primary.

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    catclub says:

    @lamh36: test reply

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Gin & Tonic: You’re just taking one for the team.

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    MagdaInBlack says:

    @lamh36:
    Boy are they bothered. See Neal Boortz response?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @A Ghost To Most:

    We’ll seè how the energy continues to go. Last year, there were quite a few well-known and/or incumbent men at the Democratic primary level who got upset by lesser-known women who then went on to win the seat.

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    Dan B says:

    @Dan B: The American Action Forum has a good piece on other methods to help Congress with tech and scientific policy, including more funding for the GAO’s tech assessment division and increased funding for tech savvy congressional staffers. GAO’s tech dept has only $2 million whereas the OTA was funded at $35million in 1996. A $10 million increase to GAO tech would be fantastic.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    Another one bites the dust. It can’t be normal for officials to be dropping away from an administration so often but nothing about the Trump administration is normal so here we are.
    https://twitter.com/SamanthaJPower/status/1081701807074754566

    It is Jan. 5, 2019: we have no Secretary of Defense & now no DoD chief of staff, no Attorney General & no evident guardrails in Trump’s inner circle. The President is unhinged – even GOP zealots know it. Rs inside & outside the admin must stop enabling Trump & protect America.

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    @A Ghost To Most: I’m inclined to agree, but I want to meet her anyway. At 33, there’s a lot of time for her to make her mark. And Hickenlooper may be looking for an eventual VP slot…

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    debbie says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Betcha had fun, though, right?

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    waratah says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I saved your link about the rice and if I get brave I may try to make a paella. This recipe sounds good even if I don’t speak Spanish. I recognized langustinos.

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    PST says:

    We’ve been undecorating the Christmas tree and putting all the Christmas things away. This is making my wife a little sad without affecting me at all. Maybe it’s because I’ve celebrated 65 Christmases, but this is only her sixth. This year’s tree sure held up well.

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    Dan B says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Wasn’t Schock caught making a comment on a male “adult actor’s” Instagram?

    Still doesn’t remove the creepy white guy taint. (No pun intended /s)

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    rikyrah says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Little kids have nothing but energy 🤗

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    dmsilev says:

    @Mnemosyne: Huh. I’m also cooking a beef stew, though with barley, leeks, a turnip, and a few other things. Smells good, and should be ready to eat in 45 minutes or so. Today is definitely the closest SoCal gets to real stew weather, so may as well make the most of it.

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    Dan B says:

    @PST: Impressive age difference! /s

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    rikyrah says:

    @lamh36:
    I am on my way home from work. On the first bus to the second bus(Commuter rail doesn’t run my way on the weekends 😪)

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    debbie says:

    @dmsilev:

    I’ve begun my annual Festival of Artichokes. The good ones have finally started to show up in stores here, and I plan to take advantage of that!

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    WaterGirl says:

    @TaMara (HFG): That looks great! I can’t use cast iron on my ceramic cooktop, though. Am I out of luck?

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    debbie says:

    @rikyrah:

    Hmm. I don’t remember Alexander bending even one millimeter for President Obama. Whore.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Dan B: That I don’t know.

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    dmsilev says:

    @debbie: Sounds nice.

    My other cooking chore/project for the weekend is to bake a couple of loaves of sourdough. Today was mixing and first rise and shaping, second rise is overnight in the fridge, and I’ll bake tomorrow morning.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @waratah: @OzarkHillbilly: Ozark, I found the rice your wife said MUST BE USED. When I got home from the store, I looked at the page you had linked, and I don’t think that’s the exact rice your wife said must be used. She said Arroz Bomba, and the page that came up was for rice by the same people, but the name was slightly different.

    Not trying to be a pedant, but I wanted to mention it in case it really does matter.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Dan B: I did not know that Judge Roy Moore was a commenter here.//

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Mnemosyne: Holy cow-ski – that’s A LOT of carrots and parsnips. I agree that it doesn’t sound right.

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    tybee says:

    if i never see nor hear from joe buck and troy aikman again, it will be too soon.

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    delk says:

    @Adam L Silverman: he did have a personal photographer and decorated his office with a Dowtown Abbey look n

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    gene108 says:

    @lamh36:

    There a bunch of old Republican men, who have the hots for AOC, but know they are already rejected, so they are just lashing out.

    It’s like some stupid high school shit, where a guy gets his clique to talk shit about the girl, who wasn’t interested in him.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @WaterGirl: All you need is Valencia rice for paella or arroz con pollo or arroz con marisco.

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    Aleta says:

    The Pentagon Chief of Staff has possibly resigned, possibly over T’s statement yesterday about his right to declare a state of emergency to use the DOD to get his wall. (He is Kevin Sweeney, a Rear Admiral.)

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    MomSense says:

    @lamh36:

    I’ve been watching fluff movies and knitting. It’s all I can handle today.

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    Starfish says:

    @rikyrah: Did you see the stupid thing that Grover Norquist (or his communications people) wrote on the Twitter?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @delk: I believe both of those figured prominently into his rumored preferences. I’ve got no issues with Shock’s personal preferences, I do have problems with him trying to deny them publicly while working within a party that is actively trying to harm others with those same preferences. And I’m really not a fan of him ripping off tax payers for the hideous redecorating in his office.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @WaterGirl:

    It’s from a Canadian dietician, so maybe their produce is not quite as gigantic as it is down here in the States? 🤔

    I need to stir and add the potatoes in about an hour, so I’ll see how it looks. Some people on her website said it got too thick too quickly, but I did add that extra 1/2 cup of wine.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Aleta: He’s a retired rear admiral who was serving as a civilian political appointee. He was Secretary Mattis’s Chief of Staff. It’s not good, but it isn’t like the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or the actual Service Chiefs are resigning or retiring early. Though I do have to say I would really have preferred that the US Air Force Chief of Staff, Gen Goldfein, had been chosen to be the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @debbie: Some parts were a lot more fun than other parts.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @WaterGirl: We use our cast iron on our ceramic cooktop all the time, without any apparent harm to the cooktop.

    At this point in life, it might be the most rebellious thing we do.

    @TaMara (HFG): Would chicken breasts work just as well? Ohio Son has decided he doesn’t like dark meat. Which is fine with whole chicken recipes, more dark meat for me.

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    dmsilev says:

    @lamh36: It was a good film. Not quite as good as Wonder Woman IMO, but close. I would say that the climactic fight in Aquaman was better than WW’s; the latter was a mess and the only real weak spot of the film.

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    Mike in Pasadena says:

    Sounds like she should be a legislator already.

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    @dmsilev: I thought I was the only one who didn’t like that final fight in WW! It was boring. Until then, the film was great.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @waratah: Fear not, there is no such thing as bad seafood paelle, only better paella…. In other words, what I put up is only a starting point. experiment, add a little more of this, a little less of that, and see how it fits your palate.

    @WaterGirl: I am unsure of what you speak of. Arroz Bomba is THE rice. The arroz bomba grown in Calasparra is the recommended type but only because,

    it is grown without pesticides and herbicides. No chemicals of any kind are added during processing.

    (i sense more than a little bit of marketing in that)

    My wife is not nearly so particular and will use arroz bomba from any region.

    And I will eat it.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: It was just so out of place compared to the rest of the film. Wrong in scale, tone, everything.

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    Barbara says:

    @TaMara (HFG): I make chicken thighs this way but I cook in the oven at a much higher temperature, 425, but potatoes only, no carrots. Or just chicken — which is crispier without the added moisture of the veggies. Tonight I made a sweet potato, pumpkin, carrot and apple soup with ginger and cinnamon. It was really good. I based it on a recipe that I found at one of my favorite websites, but I never follow them exactly. In this case I used much less pumpkin than called for, and used canned pumpkin, which in my experience has a much stronger, concentrated pumpkin flavor than whatever you cook yourself.

    Here is the recipe: http://www.italianfoodforever......pkin-soup/

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    Dan B says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Surprised me too! Who knew that old Roy had such diverse interests…..

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    these fucking people, the tax-payer funded grift never ends

    Brad Heath @ bradheath
    Shutdown update: The Trump administration appears to have gone out of its way to keep the attraction in the federally owned building that houses the Trump hotel open and staffed with National Park Service rangers

    there’s a clock tower in the building that is run by the park service

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Adam L Silverman: According to my Majorcan born, bred, and raised wife, Valencians make the worst paella in all of Spain. I sense a regional rivalry.

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    JPL says:

    @MomSense: I watched a teen rom-com on netflix and I’m not even embarrassed. My son and his wife stopped by and they thought it was great. I blame Obama, because he didn’t run for a third term.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @dmsilev: @Dorothy A. Winsor: That last fight scene was all on Snyder and the studio execs. While a showdown with Ares certainly needed to be part of the penultimate scene in the film, it didn’t need to be that mess. And it was a mess because Snyder designed it and choreographed it. Compare it to the amazon training scenes and the scene of the amazons fighting the Germans at the beginning of the movie, which were done by Jenkins and the fight choreographers who were working for her.

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    Mark C says:

    Looking at her site, LinkedIn, and doing searches I can’t find any CV (even at the schools where she is or has lectured) Isn’t it strange that someone identifying as a scientist doesn’t disclose her actual qualifications? What degrees she has earned and from where? It’s all so vague. If she decides to enter the race, these would be obvious questions for any candidate.

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    RAVEN says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Ever see Eastern Promises?

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    Barbara says:

    @Ohio Mom: I have cooked chicken breasts this way, but used split, not whole breasts. I would add some olive oil to the pan because breasts have much less fat.

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    lamh36 says:

    @dmsilev: the world building from Wan and co was beautifully imagined. It was a sacrilege that it was snubbed in the SFX Oscar category (in an unprecedented move, the Academy listed “pre-finalist” for some categories).

    Like IDK if it’s a snub at Wan or WB or even the DCEU? But it was a snubb,, esp since Mary Poppins was nominated and yet Aquaman was available for screening before Mary Poppins

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Isn’t Valencian paella based on rabbit and not seafood?

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    JPL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I just read that. In the olden days the MSM would be able to report one thing he has done 24/7 e.g.but her emails and that would end him. Now it’s just a blip. His history lesson on Afghanistan was not only concerning, but horrifying. I don’t know if Putin has something on him, or if he just admires thugs, but somehow we have to rid ourselves of the orange pest. This is not going to end well.

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    lamh36 says:

    At the very least, the success of Aquaman should tell WB and DCEU that maybe it’s time to get away from the dark pallet of Synder and Nolan, and ya know maybe make a movie with a bit more color on screen acting and FX and aesthetic.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Dan B: It was eliminated because Republicans hate facts that destroy their hateful ideology.

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    Redshift says:

    Speaking of active candidates, Tuesday is the VA state senate special where my good friend Jennifer Boysko is running for Rep. Jennifer Wexton’s old seat. If you know anyone in this Herndon to Loudoun County district, make sure they come out to vote! She’s heavily favored, but special election are always unpredictable.

    Oh, and I got to meet Danica Roem in person for the first time at her fundraiser this afternoon.

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    lamh36 says:

    Continuing with fluff…I’m now watching (and of course live-reacting) to Columbiana, while I surf the net. I actually saw Columbiana when it came out in theatres, which was a while ago…so watching it now, it’s almost new even though I know what’s gonna happen

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: All the recipes are regional. Paella originated in Valencia as a peasant dish. All you want is one of the short grain varieties, which are bahia, bomba, and senia. If you buy paella rice, you’ll be fine. Sometimes that’s how it’s branded, sometimes it’s branded as Valencia rice. Bomba is specifically known as Valencia rice.

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    @Adam L Silverman: That final fight expected us to be thrilled by special effects when the rest of the movie was about the characters. Someone I read differentiates between action and motion. Action is events that play into the plot and characterization and story. Motion is just movement, like a lot (though not all) of fight or chase scenes. That final battle was just motion.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I don’t know. I am only familiar with paella as eaten in Majorcan homes, which being as my in-laws were fishermen and fish mongers, invariably meant seafood, that is the only way they made it. Tho my wife did grow up eating rabbit… and chicken feet… and slugs…

    She grew up very poor.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @lamh36:
    The bots must be out in force because the like to dislike differences on YouTube videos of AOC dancing on the roof are closer than usual. A lot of angry incels probably too.

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    MomSense says:

    @JPL:

    Ooh, which one? I’m thinking of watching Easy A again.

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    Redshift says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, I read about that earlier in the week. Assholes.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @RAVEN: Nope. I can’t say that I have.

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    JPL says:

    @Ohio Mom: I’ve done something similar with the breast. I remove the bone and brown on top of the stove skin down. I’ll weight the top down by adding a piece of tinfoil and then sitting a heavy pot on top. That allows the skin to extra crispy and finish in the oven the same way as Tamara.

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    dmsilev says:

    @lamh36: The dark tones worked well in Nolan’s films because it matched the story and setting that he was creating. For the Snyder stuff on the other hand, it was dark-for-the-sake-of-dark and didn’t work at all.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @lamh36: The next two movies up are Shazam!, which looks very colorful and Wonder Woman II, which also looks very colorful. And as Snyder is now well out of the picture, they should both be good to go.

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    cain says:

    I saw Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse and it was pretty good. I had some issues with the animation but I thought it was pretty awesome and of course, having a black spiderman was pretty awesome. I noticed they made sure it wasnt in our universe but some other one.

    In any case, I really liked it. I took my dad to see it and for some reason he was grumpy about these animated movies/films. Kept asking what the philosophical point.. then he brings up the race of the main character.. like he felt like the whole purpose was about changing the race of the character. “It’s just entertainment, Dad’ was my rebuttal. In any case, he’s a product of his generation I suppose at 80. He’s not a racist in the tradtional sense but I he probably holds some “ideas”. I’m also fairly sure that he’s a homophobe. My brother concurs. It kind of disappointing to realize that. But at least, he’s not a crazy Trumper.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: And Snyder was very good at motion.

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    raven says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Vigo fighting naked in a sauna is pretty good.

    https://vimeo.com/164521822

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    cain says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    @lamh36: The next two movies up are Shazam!, which looks very colorful and Wonder Woman II, which also looks very colorful. And as Snyder is now well out of the picture, they should both be good to go.

    I can’t wait for Shazam. My dad used to tell me bedtimes stories with him in it. Of course, I’ve watched the Shazam/Isis hour as a kid and what not and collected comic books. My dad will see it but I know he’s going to be disappointed. I decided he needs to see it without me!

    Of course, Captain Marvel is also coming around the same time so we now have to Captain Marvels from two different studios. I’ve never really read any of the Captain Marvel in the marvel universe but I look forward to watching it!

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    JPL says:

    @MomSense: All the boys I loved before. Netflix doesn’t have Easy A shucks.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Paella originated in Valencia as a peasant dish.

    And according to my wife, they make the WORST paella in the world, suitable only for peasants!

    I repeat only what my wife tells me, and eat only what she makes, and report only that DawgDamned it is good. I make no claim to being a paella expert. That would be my wife, who learned at the hands of a master, her mother.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: @OzarkHillbilly: Valencian paella, which is the origination of the dish, included, as do many paellas, chicken. Given that it was a peasant dish, it also included rabbit, snails, and beans.

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    chris says:

    Dave Weigel followed Elizabeth Warren around Iowa. She got good overflowing crowds and lots of cheers. Link is to his twitter for the condensed version.

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    Dan B says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Schock posted a heart emoji and a comment on the Instagram account of Eliad Cohen, a handsome bodybuilder and gay party promoter. Cohen is a manly man who spends a lot of time with other shirtless, muscly, sweaty guys. He’s definitely a tres-gay attraction – not an intellectual policy instagrammer. It’s on Joe My God from Dec 20 if you really have to see the details. JMG’s blog is very political and very sharp. I believe the comments were ruthless.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @cain:

    I noticed they made sure it wasnt in our universe but some other one.

    That’s actual Marvel Comics canon. Miles Morales originated on one of the other earths in the multiverse – Marvel’s primary earth is Earth 616 – and becomes Spider-Man after the death of that earth’s Peter Parker. Eventually, because of, if I’m recalling correctly because I don’t read Marvel Comics, the Secret Wars storyline, Morales winds up on Earth 616 alongside the Peter Parker Spider-Man that everyone is familiar with.

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    Ohio Mom says:

    @Barbara: Thanks. That sounds easy enough.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @raven: I’ve seen that scene. And it cannot be unseen. If you see what I mean?

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    MomSense says:

    @JPL:

    Thanks! Have you watched Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society?

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @MomSense:

    This is how bad it’s gotten, I first read that as “snuff movies.”

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: A lot of reviews of Wonder Woman agreed that it fell down at the end with that final battle. I agree too–it was just the most ordinary part of the movie.

    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse was amazing–it was easily my favorite movie appearance of Spider-Man, though I admit I haven’t seen several of them. It makes affectionate references to the Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire ones in several places. I loved the wildly experimental, comics-style animation–the variable frame rate of the character animation was kind of jarring for the first several minutes, but I eventually got used to it once I realized they were actually using it as an artistic tool, going to a higher frame rate to evoke a heightened sense of awareness or a lower one to make the action look flailing and chaotic. Visible halftone dots, colored haloes like a mis-registered comics printing, panel framing making clever use of 3D, momentary flashes to solid-colored backgrounds–all of it gave the whole thing the look of a comic book on screen to a degree that we really haven’t seen in a movie before.

    Not only is it a Marvel superhero movie that in no way resembles a Marvel Studios movie, it’s also a CGI animated movie that in no way resembles Pixar or Disney product, and in both cases, the departures it makes are good and fresh. I wouldn’t want every movie to be in this style, but I’d love it if more found their own style in a similar way.

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    lamh36 says:

    @raven: well…that was interesting…

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    JPL says:

    @MomSense: Although I enjoyed it, I did think the book was better.

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    Another Scott says:

    @BR: https://profiles.ucdenver.edu/display/19064787

    That came up in about 10 seconds of searching. i’m sure there’s more out there.

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    @Ohio Mom: You might need to add a bit of oil – there’s not as much fat as in thighs. But as long as they are bone-in, skin on, it might work. The key is starting it in a cold pan and bring to temperature slowly. If you cook breast with thighs, the thighs should provide enough fat for both. :-)

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @cain: Shazam/Captain Marvel has always been one of my favorites. If you want to see the character done right in comic book format, I highly recommend Alex Ross’s and Jim Krueger’s Justice and Ross’s and Mark Waid’s Kingdom Come. Ross really gets the character. I also highly recommend the DC Animated Universe Superman/Shazam: Return of Black Adam. It’s in between one of the DCAU shorts and their full length animated movies, so the run time is right around 40 minutes. It is somewhat adapted from the Superman/Shazam: First Thunder graphic novel. You can get it on iTunes or Amazon. Here’s a clip from the movie:

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    raven says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Yup, it’s really quite good in the context of the film which I thought was awesome.

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    Immanentize says:

    @TaMara (HFG): Isn’t that called seared and baked chicken?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @cain: And while I don’t read Marvel Comics, and never really did outside of the X-Men for a bit before there were 300 different X titles to keep track of, I’m familiar with Carol Danvers Captain Marvel, her predecessor character Captain Marvel/Mar-Vell, and it looks like they’ve done a good job with the movie based on what I’ve seen. Especially given how badly they’ve handled the character over the years in the actual comic books.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @MomSense:

    I’m thinking of watching Easy A again.

    Love that movie! Seen it a bunch of times, though, as one of my in-laws wrote it. The part about being sent to Florida is a reference to his childhood in Green Cove Springs.

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    @WaterGirl: I use mine on my glass top. No, you’re not out of luck. Same technique for a regular fry pan, just transfer to a baking dish if it’s not ovenproof.

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    Raven says:

    @lamh36: It’s a hell of a film about Russian gangsters. Viggo was nominated for an Oscar.

    ” Criminal tattoo”
    Viggo Mortensen studied Russian gangsters and their tattoos. Mortensen spent a lot of time with a Russian Mafia specialist, Gilly McKenzie (organised crime specialist for the UN) and also consulted a documentary on the subject called The Mark of Cain (2000).[9] The tattoos that he wore, according to the New York Daily News, were so realistic that diners in a Russian restaurant in London fell silent out of fear, until Mortensen revealed his identity and admitted the tattoos were for a film.[10] From that day on he washed off his tattoos whenever he went off the set. Mortensen said of the significance of the tattoos:

    I talked to them [authentic gangsters and Gilly McKenzie] about what they meant and where they were on the body, what that said about where they’d been, what their specialties were, what their ethnic and geographical affiliations were. Basically their history, their calling card, is their body.[11]”

    ps, We had a good time in the Easy, Dooky Chase’s was awesome.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: And for the record (in a whisper) her mother’s was better. I think that had to do with access to the best seafood in the Mediterranean and the learned knowledge of a life time on the sea and in the markets to know the difference.

    Not that my wife doesn’t know the difference (she can still fillet a fish with only her thumbnail) it’s just that access to the best the gulf can provide can be difficult.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I far prefer the seafood based paella. While I’ve had escargot and had no problem eating it, snails are not something I go looking for for regular sustenance. And while I’ve also had rabbit before, it is not something I prefer to eat with any regularity.

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    MomSense says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Ha! I did watch Knight and Day with my mom last night. It’s a sort of spoof of the Bond/Bourne spy action movie. I’ve gotten so I can’t watch tv or movies that make me nervous. Real life is stressful enough.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Dan B: I’ll take your and Joe’s word for it. I’ve read stuff at Joe’s site and he is very good.

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    MomSense says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    So cool! The cast is perfect, too.

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    James E Powell says:

    @A Ghost To Most:

    I thought Hickenlooper was going for the White House.

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    Aleta says:

    I think I’m going to try making a Junior’s cheesecake tomorrow instead of passively pining for a fresh one from Brooklyn. The recipe they published awhile ago was ‘adapted for the home kitchen’ they say; but I’m hoping it’s nearly the same.

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    cain says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That’s actual Marvel Comics canon. Miles Morales originated on one of the other earths in the multiverse – Marvel’s primary earth is Earth 616 – and becomes Spider-Man after the death of that earth’s Peter Parker. Eventually, because of, if I’m recalling correctly because I don’t read Marvel Comics, the Secret Wars storyline, Morales winds up on Earth 616 alongside the Peter Parker Spider-Man that everyone is familiar with.

    Interesting. I never read secret wars, but my next door neighbor was a big fan of that and would tell me all about the Beyonder. The only thing I got out of secret wars was that was where Peter got his black parasitic alien suit.

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    Dan B says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: Yeah, the OTA was eliminated by Gingrich in 1996. The hate against science is strong with him, or at least inconvenient science.

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    jl says:

    @BR: Zornio appears to be, or at one time was, a staff researcher at Stanford University.

    Stanford Center for Undiagnosed Diseases
    https://undiagnosed.stanford.edu/research

    The name is on research you can find on google scholar.
    Edit: Not a faculty member anywhere, so one of the vast army of researchers who do a lot of the actual work, but don’t get much credit. Ha ha, as a faculty member, I seen things, I tell you, I seen things.

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    cain says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Not that my wife doesn’t know the difference (she can still fillet a fish with only her thumbnail) it’s just that access to the best the gulf can provide can be difficult.

    Perhaps using different local ingredients? I mean, it’s a peasants dish right? It’s basically throw what you want into it and call it good! Not that I would ever say that to your wife. I want to keep my health.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Matt McIrvin: loved it…def top 3 of movies for me this year. I won’t say it was better than BP to me, but it was darn near better than BP…lol.

    Oh and don’t even get me started on the soundtrack!

    I’ve been wathing this clip from “script to screen” when Miles finally “becomes” Spiderman and like I legit watched it like multiple times when I first saw it…

    SPOILER ALERT

    @ScripttoScreen_
    Follow Follow @ScripttoScreen_
    More
    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
    • Directed by: Bob Persichetti, @Pramsey342 & @Rodneyrothman
    • Written by: @Philiplord & @Rodneyrothman

    https://twitter.com/ScripttoScreen_/status/1079854997851029505

    The music choices in the film were all perfect accompaniment for each scene.

    The clip is so good and even better on the big screen..

    My hope is that it wins Best Animated Oscar over either of the 2 Disney juggernaut contenders this year. As much as folks loved Incredibles 2 and Ralph Breaks the Internet…they are all the same ole same ole…

    Spiderverse animation style is just so much more fresh

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @cain: I never read it either.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Yeah, it was the Ultimate Universe, which began as Marvel’s early-2000s attempt to reboot their continuity with less backstory baggage for new readers to deal with. The X-Men books had an aesthetic closer to the X-Men movies of the time, and some things from the Ultimate continuity eventually ended up in the MCU–most noticeably, Ultimate Nick Fury looks like Samuel L. Jackson. (Not everything, though: Ultimate Captain America is an asshole. MCU Cap is a lot more like Earth-616 Cap.)

    Ultimate Spider-Man was apparently one of their most popular books, but at some point there was this huge crisis event that smashed up Ultimate Earth and killed a bunch of heroes, and the fans mostly reacted negatively, so they were casting about for new things to do to maintain interest, and one of them was to kill off Peter Parker and bring in Miles. And it turned out people really liked Miles, so much so that when they shut down the Ultimate timeline they decided to bring him into the main universe.

    That weird reptilian version of Green Goblin in Spider-Verse is apparently based on the Ultimate Green Goblin.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Speaking of Spider-Man, do you play video games? I highly recommend the 2018 Spider-Man game that came out a few months ago. I watched a play-through of it and looks super fast-paced and fun. I can confidently say it’s easily the best Spider-Man story in any media.

    I won’t spoil much, but they show the origins of Mr. Negative and Doc Ock aka Otto Octavius. Peter Parker is Octavius’ assistant and Peter sees him as a father figure, working on robotic limbs. The ending where Peter as Spider-Man confronts Doc Ock is awesome and tearjerking. I highly recommend. Miles Morales also makes a prominent appearance as a main character and is eventually bitten by a spider like the one that gave Peter his powers.

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    Immanentize says:

    @gene108:
    You mean, like Justice Kavanaugh?

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    lamh36 says:

    @lamh36: Also too, apparently it was the LAST voice acting role from Stan Lee before his death.

    Really fitting!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Matt McIrvin: That sounds like what I recall. Marvel Studios TV basically did this story line as part of their Ultimate Spider-man cartoon on Disney XD several years back. Entitling the story arc as Into the Spiderverse. It included Miles Morales, who finished the arc back in prime Peter Parker’s earth, Spider-Man Noir, and Spider-Ham. I don’t think Spider-Gwen was in that.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: I do not play video games. I’ve seen clips from the game and it does look very nice.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @raven:

    Vigo fighting naked in a sauna is pretty good.

    I suppose we Juicers should be honored that you chose to come out on this site!

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    @Immanentize: No, because you’re bringing it up from a cold pan – you’re rendering the oil from the skin to crisp it. Searing is applying high temp quickly to crisp or brown the outside – and then reducing the heat to finish cooking – you need to do it in oil or you’ll burn the meat. Usually done for meats to be slow cooked to add a layer of flavor – or in the case of steaks, to provide a contrast to the flavors and textures of the (usually) rare-ish meat.

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    JPL says:

    @Steve in the ATL: It’s on my list. The dvd is only a dollar plus more than streaming at Amazon, and since trump is going to be president for a while longer, it might be a wise investment.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    @dmsilev:
    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    I have not seen any of the other DC films, so I was like, “Wait, what the hell? How is it possible to kill the god of war? And even if they did, what’s their explanation for World War II?” It was very confusing and annoying.

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    raven says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Speaking of we went to a club in Marigny last night and they had swing band and there were some incredible dancers of all persuasions!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Adam L Silverman: My wife is still fond of rabbit and I have to take our chickens to a special processor so she can get her chicken feet, but snails? She can do without that particular “delicacy”.

    It’s kinda funny. My old man grew up as one of 10 children during the depression and his favorite meal was always home made soup and homemade bread because that was what he ate the most of, but only because a soup bone cost a nickle and flour and yeast even less. I will never understand my wife’s fondness for chicken feet but damn, there is not a scrap of anything left on those bones when she is done with one.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Now I’ve seen it too. Some blood spilled and smeared in it. Clearly had a pretty good fight master for that.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @cain: Having grown up in the Mediterranean, there is only one kind of paella.

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    MomSense says:

    @JPL:

    It’s worth it. Stanley Tucci alone is worth it.

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    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷:

    A lot of angry incels probably too.

    Are there any other kind?

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    JPL says:

    @TaMara (HFG): I was glancing at your other recipes and saw your speared baked potatoes. Have you ever tried sweet potatoes that way?

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And while I don’t read Marvel Comics

    @lamh36:

    IDK if it’s a snub at Wan or WB or even the DCEU

    Pardon my ignorance but I don’t read comic books or even graphic novels. Is this like an East Coast/West Coast rapper feud or Arabs/Israelis or Ford/Chevy or DH/no DH? Is it really a big deal to fans of the genre?

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Raven: That’s a very interesting story! Now I have to see the film. Sorta topical these days.

    Glad you guys had fun even though the Dawgs did not. Sound like the Chez raven dogs enjoyed the adventure.

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    RAVEN says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: The PT Boat we toured yesterday was primarily a Med boat. Three Packard V-12’s!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Diana was specifically created to be the “god killer” specifically to be the weapon to defeat Ares. She had thought it was the sword that was the god killer, when it was her. Also, it was World War I. Because Captain America: The First Avenger had properly placed Cap’s origin in WW II, this forced DC to move Wonder Woman’s back to WW I, when in the comic books she emerges into man’s world specifically to aid the allies in World War II. Though there has, at times, been retcons in DC’s continuity that that was actually her mother Hypolita who fought alongside the Justice Society of American in World War II.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: My wife is still fond of rabbit

    me too, I wouldn’t know where to buy it, much less how to cook it. If you ever find yourself in the Sofitel in Chicago the restaurant there has a very nice rabbit three ways. Or they did five or so years ago.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @TaMara (HFG): The thing I care about is replacing Cory Gardner. I’m open as to the Democrat who does it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: The fight choreography was very well done.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @lamh36: Yeah… Incredibles 2 had some nice moments and was competently made overall, but the universe of movies has changed so much since the original that another Incredibles in exactly the same style as the first one just isn’t a revelation in the same way. Spider-Verse felt like it was pushing the boundaries of what a superhero cartoon could do much like The Incredibles did in 2004. But it isn’t nearly as big a mainstream hit, so it may not have as much influence. (Feels like one of those movies that is going to be a sleeper hit on home video/streaming, though.)

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @raven: I like that area. We sometimes stay at Auld’s Sweet Olive B&B there, if we can get the Courtyard Suite. Love eating at the Ruby Slipper (which MAY have some gay influence!), but hell N.O. is like Paris–almost any restaurant you pick is fantasique!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @RAVEN: Having spent several hours on the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, I look forward to an hour at least on it at the end of next month..

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    JPL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Wish I had known, my mutt brought me one a while back.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @WaterGirl: One parsnip is too many. Parsnips are the liver of root vegetables.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    It really is a beautiful game. It’s a ton of fun to swing from building to building in New York. I really liked how the game devs changed up some of the mythos. For example, J. Jonah Jameson, while still having been a newspaper publisher/editor in the past, is now an Alex Jones analogue who you occasionally can listen to on your radio/communicator. He can be pretty hilarious.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Adam L Silverman: when in the comic books she emerges into man’s world specifically to aid the allies in World War II.

    Bummed me out when I was a kid when the Lynda Carter show revamped to the modern era. I liked the WWII aspect

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @raven: I need to get back down there. Haven’t been since before Katrina, but if I go now it’ll have to be on my own dime, since I no longer have a business reason.

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    cain says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I’ll check it out!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: We used to go to a used car dealer/butcher shop for rabbit but they closed down a few years ago. My wife wants me to raise some for her, so long as she doesn’t have to look at them.

    There would be times when I would be unable to feed them.

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    @cain: What is his opinion about the Sabrimalai (sp?) controversy?

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    cain says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    @cain: And while I don’t read Marvel Comics, and never really did outside of the X-Men for a bit before there were 300 different X titles to keep track of, I’m familiar with Carol Danvers Captain Marvel, her predecessor character Captain Marvel/Mar-Vell, and it looks like they’ve done a good job with the movie based on what I’ve seen. Especially given how badly they’ve handled the character over the years in the actual comic books.

    I don’t know much about her. Also wasn’t the original a blond white guy? I seem to recall that. Good stuff though!

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    cain says:

    @lamh36:

    Spiderverse animation style is just so much more fresh

    Having just seen it,I did enjoy teh animation although some parts of it reminded me of coming into a 3D movie and forgetting my glasses.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Raven’s talking about New Orleans, and I still remember a rabbit étouffée dish that I had at Paul Prudhomme’s place several decades ago, when Mr Paul himself was in the kitchen.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Arroz de Marisco is calling.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @cain: Somebody might have covered this already, but there are (at least) TWO Secret Wars. The first was the one where Spider-man got his black suit. The second was much more recent – the entire multiverse collapsed, was partially saved by Doctor Doom, and eventually reassembled. Miles Morales came into the main universe as a result of that “re-stitching”.

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    Barbara says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: My farmer’s market has a meat vendor who sells rabbit.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    If I may ask, do you keep kosher? All my life I’ve been taught that escargots are not halal.

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    cain says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Ultimate Spider-Man was apparently one of their most popular books, but at some point there was this huge crisis event that smashed up Ultimate Earth and killed a bunch of heroes, and the fans mostly reacted negatively, so they were casting about for new things to do to maintain interest, and one of them was to kill off Peter Parker and bring in Miles. And it turned out people really liked Miles, so much so that when they shut down the Ultimate timeline they decided to bring him into the main universe.

    I saw ultimate spiderman animated series on Netflix. I thought it was pretty cool and very much like the current spiderman life action movie. There was a lot of stuff in there that reminded me of Deadpool. In fact, even in this animated movie there was a lot of stuff that reminded me of Deadpool.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Steve in the ATL: No it isn’t. The two primary players in the comic book industry in the US are DC and Marvel. Both either emerged from older publishers or emerged after consolidating multiple older publishers. And then they absorbed other publishers along the way. This is, for instance, how DC came to own the original Captain Marvel/Shazam characters, which actually predate the creation of Superman, because they bought out Fawcett Publishing. However, due to not using the character for a while, this ultimately led to a copyright dispute with Marvel, who had created their own Captain Marvel. While DC and Marvel fought this out on and off for decades, about seven years or so ago now, DC decided to just stop fighting it and decided to rename/consolidate the character’s name as Shazam.

    DC’s stable of characters include the oldest ones in continuous superhero comic book print: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman (the DC Trinity), Shazam, Green Lantern, the Flash, Hawkman, etc. Many of Marvel’s most successful characters, such as Spider-Man, the Hulk, the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, were not created until the 1960s or early 1970s. There are also significant differences in the stories being told. DC’s big three are clear literary archetypes, which has something of a trickle down effect onto how all the characters in DC are handled. Marvel’s characters are written as much more human. Kids who got powers through science experiments gone wrong (Spider-Man), but who have to juggle being heroes with finishing high school and paying the bills. Or science run amok as in the Fantastic Four. Or, as in the case of the Hulk, science run amok in a reconceptualization of Dr. Jekyll (Bruce Banner) and Mr. Hyde (the Hulk). The X-Men were actually all stand ins for Jews, African Americans, Latinx Americans, and other ethnic and religious minorities to tell stories dealing with racism and discrimination. The ultimate culmination of this was in retconning the biggest X-Men villain, Magneto, into being a Holocaust survivor. He lost one extended family, he will stop at nothing to keep from losing another one.

    There are also a large numbers of small to medium to relatively large publishers that have reemerged over the years that are outside of the big two of DC and Marvel. Some of them will become more widely known, like Image Comics, now that their characters and stories are being adapted for movies.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    An agriculture minister here once tried to promote rabbit meat. He was defeated by the fact that Malaysians think rabbits are too cute to eat.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: I’m going to show my age here and tell you to pick up the old PS2 copy of “Spiderman 2”, which had a really, REALLY good web-swinging mechanic based on actual physics and required a decent amount of skill to excel at. Like, you totally suck at it when you start but you learn to do some fairly amazing things.

    Everything else about the new Spiderman game is better, but no one’s managed to get the “Spiderman 2” web-swinging back yet.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yes, but killing the god of war makes zero sense, unless they’re also re-writing all of history from that point forward to prevent WWII and all subsequent wars from happening. I have no idea how they plan to explain the fact that war actually got worse after that.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Last time I was at a conference in Chicago, I couldn’t get into the Palmer House and stayed at the Sofitel.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It is what it is.

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    Raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: The Kidd and The Crosby spent a good bit of time in the same waters. The PT 305 tour is ok but it’s a deck tour because they are not yet insured for visitors to go below deck. I did the WW2 Museum and it’s very different from the last time my dad and I went there.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    No lol. AOC’s treatment by the GOP reminds me a lot of how Gamergoobers treated Brianna Wu and Anita Sarkeesian in 2014-2015. The dislikes always outnumbered the likes on videos by feminists criticizing these guys. I have to wonder if AOC’s brosocalist cred (not a knock against her) is partly helping her stay afloat re: likes vs dislikes and overriding the normal misogyny against her.

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    cain says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Pardon my ignorance but I don’t read comic books or even graphic novels. Is this like an East Coast/West Coast rapper feud or Arabs/Israelis or Ford/Chevy or DH/no DH? Is it really a big deal to fans of the genre?

    Not to me. I also used to read Dark Horse comics and some various other stuff. But that was back in my days as a teen and young adult. Even though I’m an indian I was very much a white young nerd and collected comics. :-) I just love stories and hooked on it. Comics at the time was making the transition from kids fare to real adult entertainment with adult stories and situations. In any case, it was a golden age of comics and there were all kinds of different publications other than Marvel and DC that could whet your appetite. It’s too bad that these studios were absorbed into different media empires.

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    Raven says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Was he walking or on his cart?

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    cain says:

    @A Ghost To Most:

    @TaMara (HFG): The thing I care about is replacing Cory Gardner. I’m open as to the Democrat who does it.

    Since we’re talking about comics.. Cory Gardner of course inspires me to mention Guy Gardner, the asshole Green Lantern. Jeezus that guy was nuts.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I love the lobbies of those old hotels– I can’t remember which one I was in a couple years back that still had a writing room– but I find unless you splurge on an upgrade the rooms can feel a bit cramped.

    And Bertha Palmer was said [ed, by William Manchester] to be the only person who ever intimidated Churchill. Random Palmer House factoid

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: I’ve heard a lot of good things about that game–people are calling that and Spider-Verse maybe the two best screen Spider-Man stories ever.

    It’s kind of ironic that 2018 was such a big year for Spider-Man, given that both of Spider-Man’s creators died. And Spider-Man himself died a couple of times… well, a Spider-Man, anyway, though in no case did it seem to really be the end…

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Stew update: I tasted the gravy when I stirred in the potatoes for the final hour of cooking and it seemed a little bland, so I added a few shakes of smoked paprika. Problem solved!

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    cain says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    @lamh36: Yeah… Incredibles 2 had some nice moments and was competently made overall, but the universe of movies has changed so much since the original that another Incredibles in exactly the same style as the first one just isn’t a revelation in the same way. Spider-Verse felt like it was pushing the boundaries of what a superhero cartoon could do much like The Incredibles did in 2004. But it isn’t nearly as big a mainstream hit, so it may not have as much influence. (Feels like one of those movies that is going to be a sleeper hit on home video/streaming, though.)

    My dad didn’t like Incredibles either. And wonders, I now recall him criticizing the black character… HMMM…

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @cain: The original was a pink Kree, Mar-Vell. Later known as Captain Marvel. I believe this is Jude Law’s character in the movie, though it hasn’t been formally confirmed. At one point in the comics, when Carol Danvers as Ms. Marvel, which was what her character was called until DC and Marvel settled on the copyright and trademark fight, was an Avenger, an entire story arc involved her being raped and forcibly impregnated and then forced to carry the baby to term and then the baby stolen from her by the father. The rest of the Avengers didn’t do anything to assist her. It is one of the most jarring/grating story arcs, that doesn’t involving fridging a female character, I’ve ever heard of in a comic book series. And one of the main reasons that I never really read Avengers or anything else Marvel that wasn’t X-Men.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @lamh36, @Mnemosyne:

    As serious movie people, you will appreciate this hilarious Twitter thread of movie clichés. (Full credit to zhena gogolia, who first posted it downstairs. Thanks again to her!)

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    cain says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Bummed me out when I was a kid when the Lynda Carter show revamped to the modern era. I liked the WWII aspect

    I had a chance to rewatch that series on Netflix and well, the show did not age well. After seeing all the awesome movies like Wonder Woman being bad ass, Lynda Carter didn’t cut it anymore and her acting was not very good. She still had that amazing smile though.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Good news

    Richard M. Nixon @ dick_nixon
    Le Carré has a book in the autumn — “Agent Running in the Field.” Set in London in 2018, “it follows a 26 year old solitary figure who, in a desperate attempt to resist the political turbulence around him, makes connections that will take him down a very dangerous path.”

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    Starfish says:

    @rikyrah: He is the worst.

    Slavery is when your owner takes 100% of your production.Democrat congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez wants 70% (according to CNN)What is the word for 70% expropriation?— Grover Norquist (@GroverNorquist) January 5, 2019

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    @JPL: Yes, and coat them with oil and salt and a little cinnamon on the outside before baking. But it is harder to get the skewers through. LOL

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    cain says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    @cain: What is his opinion about the Sabrimalai (sp?) controversy?

    I haven’t honestly asked, but I think he supports the decision. He’s fairly pro-womens rights. Nobody in my family though is as liberal as I am, but they are slowly catching up…

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    @A Ghost To Most: I will walk across glass to replace that fake christian with any democrat.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Raven: He was standing, but not moving around. That kitchen was tiny.

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    cain says:

    @MisterForkbeard:

    @cain: Somebody might have covered this already, but there are (at least) TWO Secret Wars. The first was the one where Spider-man got his black suit. The second was much more recent – the entire multiverse collapsed, was partially saved by Doctor Doom, and eventually reassembled. Miles Morales came into the main universe as a result of that “re-stitching”.

    I remember a Secret Wars II, but that was still relatively close in the 90s. I don’t remember the premise to that one though. I never read either of them. But the Miles Morales in the movie was pretty awesomely voiced.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Starfish: Fucking guy wants to make like he doesn’t understand marginal tax rates (which I’m positive he does.)

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @rikyrah: Straight from the Saddam Hussein school of diplomacy …

    Negotiate:
    I make demands, and you agree to them.
    Negotiate.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Starfish: isn’t he the one who threw away his kid’s ice cream to make a dishonest point about taxes?

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    raven says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Oh yea but the star you got on your face for finishing!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Amir Khalid: I do not really keep kosher. Snails are not kosher though, so I would expect they wouldn’t be halal either.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @cain: That’s the series that was on Disney XD. There is an entire Spider-verse arc, which includes Miles Morales and brings him into the main universe.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @MisterForkbeard:
    Don’t worry about showing your age. I owned a PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4. Most of the games I own are for the PS2. I actually don’t play video games as much anymore myself except a select few PC games and spend more time watching let’s players on YouTube.

    Thanks for the recommendation! I’ll have to hook up my PS3 (backward compatibility with PS1 and PS2 games) and try to find a copy sometime. I’ve considered buying the new Spider-Man game. Maybe I could try comparing the two.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The big exception to that generational rule being Captain America, a 1940s hero created by Marvel long before Marvel was Marvel. And then they eventually brought that fact into the comics, and later the movies, by making him a frozen-on-ice hero out of time.

    (The other big pre-Marvel Age Marvel superheroes were Namor the Sub-Mariner, and the original Human Torch. The latter got heavily reimagined as a member of the Fantastic Four, who had the same powers but was a different guy. Namor is the guy Aquaman is a knockoff of, and has sort of an interestingly ambiguous hero/villain status, but he hasn’t shown up on screen because of convoluted and mysterious IP issues.)

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Steeplejack:

    Just one voice

    Hi I am a 55 year old woman who looks like a 55 year old woman. I don’t exist in movies.
    5 replies 28 retweets 794 likes

    Liam Connell

    Hi, I am 55 year old man in a movie. I am currently in a romantic liaison with your granddaughter.

    AHAHAHA!

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    cain says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    @cain: The original was a pink Kree, Mar-Vell. Later known as Captain Marvel. I believe this is Jude Law’s character in the movie, though it hasn’t been formally confirmed. At one point in the comics, when Carol Danvers as Ms. Marvel, which was what her character was called until DC and Marvel settled on the copyright and trademark fight, was an Avenger, an entire story arc involved her being raped and forcibly impregnated and then forced to carry the baby to term and then the baby stolen from her by the father. The rest of the Avengers didn’t do anything to assist her. It is one of the most jarring/grating story arcs, that doesn’t involving fridging a female character, I’ve ever heard of in a comic book series. And one of the main reasons that I never really read Avengers or anything else Marvel that wasn’t X-Men.

    Wow, that would be. I assume the Avengers offered no compensation for their horrible actions? Seriously, that does sound like one fucked up story.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: No, it didn’t. As Hypolita warned, and as Diana learned after she killed Ares, that the god of war may assist humans in making wars, humans are all too naturally inclined to make war that they’ll do it all on their own. This is a persistent theme in Wonder Woman comics going back to at least the 1980s.

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    cain says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    @cain: That’s the series that was on Disney XD. There is an entire Spider-verse arc, which includes Miles Morales and brings him into the main universe.

    I will have to see if it still there I got to the end I think and there wasn’t any more seasons passed the first one :(

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    About Spiderverse: One thing to understand is that the animation seems odd because it is literally the highest quality animation ever made. They developed entirely new techniques. They took established techniques and used them in new ways for stylistic purposes, and all those experiments worked. From a technical perspective, Spiderverse is the god-movie of animation, being actively studied by other animators to scoop up its gooey, juicy secrets.

    (Disclaimer: It’s a pretty regular experience for an animated movie to break all previous boundaries and be studied and used to upgrade all future movies.)

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I’m guessing that this is your favorite comic page, then.

    @Starfish:

    What is the word for 70% expropriation?

    Justice, motherfucker.

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    This is the most open thread I think I’ve seen in a while. LOL

    BTW, minus the good Ms. Zornio, that’s my view to work several days a week. My home office view isn’t so bad either – it’s Longs Peak and Mt. Meeker

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: They did a full refit of the Palmer House a little over a decade ago. They did a very nice job and the rooms don’t feel quite so cramped. They also have an amazing gym they put in to replace the little one that felt like you were working out in a shoe box.

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    cain says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    (The other big pre-Marvel Age Marvel superheroes were Namor the Sub-Mariner, and the original Human Torch. The latter got heavily reimagined as a member of the Fantastic Four, who had the same powers but was a different guy. Namor is the guy Aquaman is a knockoff of, and has sort of an interestingly ambiguous hero/villain status, but he hasn’t shown up on screen because of convoluted and mysterious IP issues.)

    I never liked that guy. I think the last time I saw anything with him in it is that cartoon back in the late 70s or something. The guy just made me uncomfortable as a kid. I was like bring on the Hulk. I’m done.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    well, a Spider-Man, anyway, though in no case did it seem to really be the end…

    “Mr. Stark, I don’t feel so good…”

    It never is with comic book characters. Unless you’re Emoboy Prime, then you stay dead and forgotten.

    I need to rent Into the Spider-Verse when it comes out. It looked good from the trailers.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Starfish: Grover really needs to learn what a graduated tax rate is.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Matt McIrvin: That is all correct.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @cain: And then the story arc up and decided to act like nothing ever happened at all.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Steeplejack:
    Somebody should make a thread about movie trailer cliches

    “In a world….

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Meh, Neil Gaiman did it better in his Sandman comics.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @cain: The other guy likely inspired by Namor the Sub-Mariner was… Mr. Spock. In appearance, at least. Only Spock usually wears clothes.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @cain: They kept changing the name of the series as it went on. So seasons 1 and 2 were just Ultimate Spider-Man. Season 3 was Ultimate Spider-Man: Web Warriors. And Season 4 was Ultimate Spider-Man vs. the Sinister Six. The Spiderverse arc is in Season 3.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Spider-Man_(TV_series)

    The New Warriors ultimately defeat the villains, but Green Goblin gets away with the Siege Perilous, leading to a variation of the Spider-Verse storyline in which he travels across the Multiverse to collect DNA samples of Spider-Man’s alternate counterparts to turn himself into the Spider-Goblin. Chasing after him, Spider-Man meets up with Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Girl, Spider-Man Noir, Spider-Ham, Spyder-Knight and Miles Morales, helping them each one by one with their problems, before teaming up with all of them to take down Spider-Goblin and a giant Helicarrier robot controlled by Electro. After both are defeated and the alternate Spider-Men return to their homes, Goblin reverts into Norman Osborn and ends up suffering amnesia, making him forget his time as the Goblin.

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    Redshift says:

    @Mnemosyne: I don’t really see how that is confusing in the context of the movie, since it’s a major plot point that Diana thinks he’s the cause of the war, but when it doesn’t stop after she thinks she’s killed him, he makes it clear she’s wrong; humans did it and he just nudged things to make it worse.

    They open with the other gods having been killed long ago, and there’s still thunder, crops, death, etc., so why is it a problem to have wars after the good of war is killed?

    (I wouldn’t disagree that the film’s whole concept of gods is kind of nonsensical, though.)

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Rumor has it that some of the Marvel Pictures folks are envious. But you didn’t hear it from me.

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    Redshift says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Grover really needs to learn what a graduated tax rate is.

    I suspect he does, but he’s counting on the fact that most people don’t to make his lie more effective.

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    dmsilev says:

    @TaMara (HFG):

    This is the most open thread I think I’ve seen in a while. LOL

    Come for the politics, stay for the arguments about paella and superheroes.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Redshift: I just saw some wingnut guffawing on Twitter about how the stupid liberals think they don’t know what a marginal tax rate is. (No, we’re responding to the people who are straight-up pretending not to know what a marginal tax rate is, through the technique known as lying.)

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Redshift:

    Diana thinks he’s the cause of the war, but when it doesn’t stop after she thinks she’s killed him, he makes it clear she’s wrong; humans did it and he just nudged things to make it worse.

    Maybe I’m misremembering the ending, but the war actually does stop after she kills Ares. It does not stop after she kills Danny Huston’s red herring character, which is what makes her realize he wasn’t Ares, and then the real one shows up.

    When she kills the real one, all of the soldiers start hugging each other.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: No. That is an excellent story, but my favorite Captain Marvel/Shazam page is in Alex Ross’s and Jim Krueger’s Justice where Captain Marvel explains his powers. It’s the opening page of chapter 9:
    http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Justice_Vol_1_9

    The power of Zeus is better understood as the wrath of Zeus. It is like having a fire inside of me. It won’t let me give up. It won’t let me stop. It is all consuming.

    There is also this quote from Hal Jordan/Green Lantern:

    But all I do is listen to Captain Marvel’s words. The wisdom of Solomon spoken through a child’s enthusiasm and belief.

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @Starfish:

    Slavery is when your owner takes 100% of your production.

    Just wait until companies demand the right to set your pay at less than it costs you to work there.

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    Booger says:

    @Dan B: OTA was eliminated by Leroy Gingrich because he wanted lobbyists to be able to better influence policy without facts getting in the way.

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    sukabi says:

    @Adam L Silverman: before or after he drowns in a bathtub?

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    @Adam L Silverman: Obligatory Upton Sinclair quote:

    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

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    eemom says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    It is what it is.

    And it ain’t what it ain’t. #JohnPrine

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷:

    I have to wonder if AOC’s brosocalist cred (not a knock against her) is partly helping her stay afloat re: likes vs dislikes and overriding the normal misogyny against her.

    I think the online left got a bit wiser and more aggressive than it used to be, too. More proactive about trying to head this stuff off, more willing to pile on alt-rightists and get them de-platformed.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    I like Redshift’s message a lot better than the one you remembered.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    This is why I can’t stand Manchin.
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1081750473328283649

    So dang annoying. Did he apologize when Cheney used the f word against Leahy?

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Millard Filmore:

    Just wait until companies demand the right to set your pay at less than it costs you to work there.

    I’ve never actually seen that occur, but I have been accused of it by union bargaining committees!

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    chris says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Some things are universal. Here in Canada conservatives tried and failed to comprehend the difference between a 3.3% wage increase and a 3.1%tax increase. Much screeching followed.
    (Andrew Scheer is the leader of the Conservative Party and of course he loves the shitgibbon.)

    1/ Let us now consider the spectacular stupidity of one Andrew Scheer and his intellectual idols at the Fraser Institute as they both try to work out Grade Four arithmetic and fail stupendously. I refer, of course, to this idiocy. pic.twitter.com/lVwnzZoRDw— Robert P. J. Day (@rpjday) 28 December 2018

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Patricia Kayden: Christ that’s pathetic . What grown-ass adult honestly thinks anyone’s offended cause somebody said a swear?

    Why doesn’t he fucking apologize for children dead in our custody, children in cages

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    Dan B says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I was at an evening anti-war demonstration in Grant Park in 1970. A group of SDS (egged on by some cointelpro folks, probly). They took off into the loop. At the Palmer House police swarmed in from every direction. A blonde woman from the hotel yelled at the cops (spelled with a P by us) for clubbing young women. The clubbed her and threw her and her ore-teen daughters in a paddy wagon. It was memorable.

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    Fair Economist says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Yes, but killing the god of war makes zero sense, unless they’re also re-writing all of history from that point forward to prevent WWII and all subsequent wars from happening.

    Up until the final fight scene, I thought they were making the point that the gods really *weren’t* responsible for everything happening. The fighting, the science, the degradation or exaltation of humanity – it was supposed to be people doing that on their own. Then after Diana offs Ares suddenly all the soldiers have a kumbaya moment implying Ares really *was* causing the war and not just manipulating people into it. Then in the epilogue Diana is talking about humanity being responsible for itself like she hadn’t just seen Ares apparently mindcontrolling the entire soldiery of both sides in WWI. Very incoherent.

    As a whole, it does look like the fight scene was plopped into a movie where it doesn’t fit the worldbuilding any more than it fits the style and feel.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    It does seem some people have learned their lessons from a few years ago.

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    Dan B says:

    @Booger: Nature abhors a vacuum.

    I’m talking about lobbyists, not Gingrich, and how they flow in to any hollowed out place in government.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @chris: Thank you, that was beautiful.

    Also good:

    Robert P. J. Day

    @rpjday
    Jan 4
    More
    JUXTAPOSE! Republicans will pause briefly from killing children in border prison camps to whine piteously about a Congresswoman dancing.

    Welcome to 2019.

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    Hm, somebody should put up a new thread.

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    @Another Scott: Page lists only 1 paper–%multiple authors. No ed or degree history

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    chris says:

    @Lyrebird: Day has been on the net since usenet days and was one of the first bloggers I found way back when. He still writes a bit here.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Yeah, I wonder who has front-pager access to do that? ; p

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    A lot of reviews of Wonder Woman agreed that it fell down at the end with that final battle. I agree too–it was just the most ordinary part of the movie.

    It was so … unimaginative. Just watched it on youtube again to confirm. They have two (avatars of) divine beings directly engaged in combat, and they couldn’t imagine anything more than that? E.g. what would have been wrong with a more explicit cinematic projection of swords, (metaphysical swords,) lots of swords[2], being used at high speed to shape the space of possible futures(/pasts)? [0][1]. The vorpal blades went snicker-snack! (lightly modified).
    Even a few seconds spread through the fight scene to give broader context would have been good.

    [0] In context, minimizing/maximizing wars, perhaps, or perhaps just short-term survival.
    [1] Good and evil Edward Scissorhands, fighting both for short-term survival and in a metaphysical topiary competition, where the topiary is homo sapiens.
    [2] Ares did do lots of swords once, but in very boring way.

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    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: But I don’t have anything interesting to say!

    ETA Okay, AL has something brewing, phew

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Fair Economist:

    Up until the final fight scene, I thought they were making the point that the gods really *weren’t* responsible for everything happening. The fighting, the science, the degradation or exaltation of humanity – it was supposed to be people doing that on their own. Then after Diana offs Ares suddenly all the soldiers have a kumbaya moment implying Ares really *was* causing the war and not just manipulating people into it. Then in the epilogue Diana is talking about humanity being responsible for itself like she hadn’t just seen Ares apparently mindcontrolling the entire soldiery of both sides in WWI. Very incoherent.

    Yeah, that’s how I remember the ending, too, which is why I was like, “WTF just happened? That made no sense!”

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷:

    I like Redshift’s version better, too, but I think he’s remembering it wrong, unfortunately. Fair Economist’s version above is the way I remember it, too.

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    rikyrah says:

    What a slacker!😂😂

    Can you imagine the pride of his parents?

    https://twitter.com/amandadeibert/status/1081653499903934464

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    divF says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Ever since you made the Big Move, I’ve been looking for a chance to suggest this as your new entrance / walk-up / theme music.

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    ljt says:

    For a new open thread, might I suggest this photo of Nancy SMASH and the children? Have come back to this several times the past couple days. This is WHY.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    I’m sure you could think of something ; )

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Oh, that sounds worse. Why does DCEU have to pump out shoddy movies?

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    Ken says:

    @MisterForkbeard:

    the entire multiverse collapsed, was partially saved by Doctor Doom, and eventually reassembled.

    Not to be confused with the Crisis on Infinite Earths, which was the same thing in the DC universe. I think both were the publishers’ attempt at reducing the number of active story lines, and worked for about as long as cutting back kudzu in Georgia.

    Arguably the “New 52” was the same thing, though IMO most of the motivation for that was to come out with a lot of “Volume 1, Issue 1” comics for the collector market.

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    dmsilev says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷:

    Why does DCEU have to pump out shoddy movies?

    Zack Snyder.

    Fortunately, he’s being moved more and more to the sidelines, so hopefully DC will be able to do better going forward. Aquaman was encouraging on that front.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @rikyrah:

    I got worried that the story was a hoax because some of the other stories on that site are pretty sketchy but, nope, Dr. Jonny Kim, decorated Navy SEAL and astronaut, seems to be for real:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Kim

    I found him on NASA’s site, too.

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    Fair Economist says:

    @Bill Arnold: I think a weaponry driven final fight would have made a lot more sense than the zappity-wappity one they had as well as looked better. It would fit better with the earlier story if Ares were “just” a superhuman fighter like Diana had been in the battlefield scene rather than something comparable to an alien spaceship. It would also fit better with the greek mythology sources too – gods do a lot of fighting in the Iliad but mostly with period weaponry and certainly not firing spinal mount beam weapons.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷:

    Wonder Woman is a really good movie, actually. It just has 5 minutes of derp right at the end that the director does her best to gloss over.

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    Citizen Alan says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    The other big pre-Marvel Age Marvel superheroes were Namor the Sub-Mariner, and the original Human Torch. The latter got heavily reimagined as a member of the Fantastic Four, who had the same powers but was a different guy.

    Actually, the original Human Torch got brought into the modern Marvel Universe too. Originally, he was an android who could burst into flames. Johnny Storm, the FF Human Torch grew up reading comics about the original and named himself that in honor of the original, who was eventually brought back for a while.
    /nerd powers DEACTIVATE

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    @Mnemosyne: I feel like a lot of astronauts are down-low warrior-scientists.

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    Citizen Alan says:

    @cain:

    The original story (Avengers #200) so incensed Chris Claremont that he got permission to write a later Avengers Annual in which Carol returned and got to call out the entire group for letting her be carried off by her rapist (who had also used mind-control to temporarily make her think she was in love with him). IIRC, the Wasp originally thought the ending of Avengers #200 was wonderfully romantic.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    Oh I’m sure it was. I was speaking more broadly about the DCEU.

    @dmsilev:

    I’ve heard that he’s the source of a lot of problems for the DC movies. I never cared for MOS’ Superman.

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    Victor Matheson says:

    Just as an aside, those rocks she is sitting on are just below the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder. Took my kids there last summer for a little field trip because what kid doesn’t want to learn a bit about climate science while on vacation?

    Also may have taken at least one date there during high school because who wouldn’t want to go on a date there? Nerd chic!

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I feel like a lot of astronauts are down-low warrior-scientists.

    Except for the ones that were just pilots; although they’re badasses in their own right.

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    Victor Matheson says:

    @Citizen Alan I think the android body of the WWII human torch got recycled into the Vision by Hank Pym. Go check your Avengers #57.

    Seriously, between taking dates to NCAR and knowing the exact issue of Vision’s origin, dare anyone to outnerd me tonight.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    That whole thread is gold. One of the best I’ve read in a long time.

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    TomatoQueen says:

    Watched Moscow on the Hudson (the weekend 9:30 pm feature on local PBS), for the first time since it came out, almost didn’t cry. He was vulnerable and funny and handsome, and once upon a time this country was welcoming and confident and loving. May those times come again.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    The funniest part of this classic clip is that Dr. Kim’s undergraduate degree is in …. mathematics. 😂

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    Another Scott says:

    @Ladyraxterinok: That was just an example.

    Someone on Linked in can look there. I found that in another 30 seconds or so of searching.

    She’s not claiming to be a Nobel-prize winning researcher with an h-index of 185, or something. She’s also not hiding anything, it seems to me.

    Tempest in a teapot, AFAICS.

    FWIW.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    @Steeplejack:

    “In a world . . .”

    I love that one.

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    Citizen Alan says:

    @Victor Matheson:

    CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! While that was the original origin for Vision’s body, it got retconned by John Byrne in West Coast Avengers (one of many, many stupid things Byrne was allowed to do with that series). The original Torch was revived and has been puttering around ever since. He was last seen in All-New Invaders.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @TomatoQueen: Reagan-era America was nowhere near as welcoming, confident or loving as it portrayed itself as being. But one thing we did do then was officially welcome most refugees from the Communist world; it was good Cold War psychological positioning. The Republicans liked them because they tended to be reliable Republican voters, once they heard what Reagan said about the Communist governments they were fleeing.

    Back when I still followed some Rose Twitter types, there was a thing getting enthusiastically retweeted around about how all the immigrants from the Communist world were evil bourgeois who were just whining about their well-deserved revolutionary dispropriation. It struck me as both ahistorical and kind of racist. Probably not true of, say, everyone fleeing the Khmer Rouge.

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    Victor Matheson says:

    @Citizen Alan: ok, I give. Just don’t steal my Members Only jacket or my VF copy of Hulk #181 from me.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Mnemosyne: Yeah, and a lot of modern sci-fi/action movies (with or without superheroes) have similar third-act trouble. Even Spider-Verse, for all its virtues, has an overly familiar “close the portal before it destroys the city” aspect to its final battle (though there’s a bunch of other stuff going on, and it’s so visually ambitious about it that it’s hard to fault for that).

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Steeplejack:
    Lol. “In a land before time…”

    Thanks!

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    That’s why I loved Guardians of the Galaxy for solving the final confrontation with a dance-off. 😂

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    And now his illegitimate son—or someone with the exact right voice—has turned up in that series of ride-along car commercials.

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    PJ says:

    @Starfish: Actually, it’s capitalism where your employer takes 100% of your production. Slavery is when you are property, without any rights.

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    Origuy says:

    I stayed at the Palmer once, during the renovation between Christmas and New Years. My room was an L-shaped closet, but you couldn’t beat the price.

    Last week, I was in Chicago. For a couple of days, I was at the Ohio House, which is a little motel whose outstanding feature is free parking. The second time I was at the St. Jane, which is in the Carbide and Carbon Building. It was built in 1929 as the HQ of Union Carbide. Most recently, it was the Hard Rock Hotel.
    St. Jane refers to Jane Addams, the Chicago social activist.

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    Cathie from Canada says:

    Maybe I’m just grumpy because Im up too early, but as admirable as Zorino is, I would feel better about supporting someone who had run for office before, at a state or local level. Her reason for running seems to be that she thinks her generation should be represented in the Senate — well, they’re also not represented in boardrooms, executive suites, boards of directors for national volunteer organizations, etc etc, and its because for the most part her generation hasn’t yet done enough work to demonstrate that it deserves a seat at the table.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: You obviously know a lot more about rice than I do. I found the rice that’s pictured at your link, but I also found a rice at the same store by the same company that actually says “Arroz Bomba” on the front.

    I found a link on Amazon to the rice I purchased in the store.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @A Ghost To Most: I use parsnip in exactly one dish, my mom’s vegetable beef soup with barley. But I cut the pieces up pretty small and I only use one parsnip. It has kind of a bite that I like.

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    2liberal says:

    @Mark C:

    Looking at her site, LinkedIn, and doing searches I can’t find any CV (even at the schools where she is or has lectured) Isn’t it strange that someone identifying as a scientist doesn’t disclose her actual qualifications? What degrees she has earned and from where? It’s all so vague. If she decides to enter the race, these would be obvious questions for any candidate

    https://www.theheraldtimes.com/potential-challenger-to-gardner-in-meeker-saturday/meeker/

    ‘She is single and said she worked her “whole life before college to get to Stanford,” where she earned her degrees’

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    Mark C says:

    @BR: Yes, I read that but it doesn’t answer the question. It’s very strange to see a campaign website without a CV. Especially for someone identifying as a scientist. I sent her an inquiry and just got back an email with a link to make a donation.

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