Here’s a mini-cypress dome that lives upriver:
The trees aren’t as tall as I am right now, but if you come back in a couple of hundred years, they will have formed a soaring cathedral of trunks, branches, leaves and moss, assuming climate catastrophe hasn’t drowned the entire state.
Open thread!
Elizabelle
People can grab onto the branches for dear life, as they sweep by in floods.
Happy Friday!
Baud
@Elizabelle: Happy Friday, ‘belle.
rikyrah
It is Friday.
Be happy, people.
I missed the Timeless Series Finale :(
But, because I had bought Season 2 on Amazon Video, I got it :)
That’s what I will spend this evening watching :)
loved that show.
germy
Some Peter De Vries quotes:
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Baud:
I might have told you this before, but your nym always reminds me of that old show Maude.
Roger Moore
That’s a big assumption.
Kent
@rikyrah: You should check out the Spanish TV version on Netflix called “El Ministerio del Tiempo” that Timeless ripped off: https://www.netflix.com/title/80064235
raven
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: The bar across from where use are staying in the Quarter shows it non-stop. NO, it’s not a SPORTS bar!
Betty Cracker
@rikyrah: What was it about? Also, has anyone watched Bird Box on Netflix? The premise sounds interesting.
Baud
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
One of the ideas I had for a Baud! 2020! slogan is “And then there’s Baud!”
ETA:. Aren’t you too young for Maude?
Kent
@Betty Cracker: It’s a time travel show. Government agents travel back to the past to stop other rogue agents from messing with the timeline. So they visit key historical moments like WWII, the Civil War, Revolutionary War, etc.
It borrowed the concept from a very good Spanish TV show that is honestly better and more interesting as their scope of history goes back to the Roman times.
germy
More Peter De Vries quotes:
debit
@Baud: Will you wear the pant suit?
rikyrah
Lips pursed.
…………………….
Where Government Is a Dirty Word, but Its Checks Pay the Bills
jl
@debit: ” Will you wear the pant suit? ”
After Trump, Baud 2020! needs even more ridiculous gimmicks than he ever imagined before. So he better.
rikyrah
SCOTUS — voting 5-4 — won’t block California judge’s ruling against Trump asylum ban. Order just issued: pic.twitter.com/8fs36IfTcn
— Mike Scarcella (@MikeScarcella) December 21, 2018
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Baud:
I like it ^^. I’m not your typical twentysomething. Also, there’s these things called cable/satellite television and reruns.
Baud
@debit: It will be how I will honor Hillary.
germy
@rikyrah:
“It isn’t welfare when White people get it.”
Schlemazel
Parts of that toilet with palm trees are gorgeous. I particularly love that there is always something in bloom. The parts least touch by the people who have made FL the disaster it is are the very best
rikyrah
@Kent:
Thank you..
I love a good timetravel show.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@rikyrah:
Wonder if Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are going to get angry phone calls today.
“You guys were supposed to help me! You’re my goddamn enforcers!”
Raven Onthill
I suppose eventually the shutdown will end before Trump is out of office. After enough pain, the various factions will find a way to compromise. But it’s going to be months.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@raven:
Is it some channel for classic TV?
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
Bird Box looks terrifying to me. I’ll skip on the scary movies.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: He’s also too young to have seen a 9600 baud modem.
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@rikyrah:
Fuck their feelings.
eclare
@Betty Cracker: It sounds terrifying! But yes, I’m interested too…..
donnah
Hey, folks! Remember the Christopher Robin and Winnie the Pooh hooked rug? Well, I submitted it to the Main Library here as a donation and the committee has accepted it! Apparently they get lots of art donated, so it’s a real honor to have been accepted.
More details to be determined after the holidays, but what good news!
debit
@donnah: Congratulations!!
Baud
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Fixed
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Eh. The first 9600 baud modem came out in 1991. I wasn’t that far off (’95).
HeleninEire
Yeah. Happy Friday to everyone. I am off work until January 2. And then I have only 8 more days of work. Then 16 more days until I return to Queens.
Not that I’m counting. :)
schrodingers_cat
लाभले आम्हास भाग्य बोलतो मराठी We are lucky that we speak Marathi.
I miss speaking Marathi, hearing it IRL. In India the real divisions (if you look at the history too) are linguistic not religious. That’s precisely why the current stupid experiment of Hindu majoritarianism is going to fail. Because culturally and linguistically I would have more in common with a Marathi speaking Muslim than I would with a Hindu from a southern state.
Marathi is one of the oldest Prakrits (colloquial languages close to Sanskrit), about a 1000 years old, it is older than Hindi. It also has a fair amount of Farsi words.
trollhattan
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
9600 baud? Sheer luxury! Why in my day, we had to put the handset on the receiver, dial and pray we’d get 1200. And we loved it!
A Ghost To Most
@Schlemazel:
For the record, I didn’t say that. I call it a pool table with swamps for pockets.
raven
It looks like there are about 500 people at the Bahama Bowl but I look fro big things at the Idaho Famous Potato Bowl!
??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??
@Baud:
All you libturds want to talk about is race. Tell me this, wiseguy: how can you libs feel so superior when Andrew Jackson was a Democrat, huh? //
Actual right-wing arguments I’ve encountered.
rikyrah
@donnah:
That rug was beautiful. They would have been crazy not to accept it. It was gorgeous, and Congratulations!
raven
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: Huh, I assume it’s a dvd.
HeleninEire
@Baud: Yeah he is probably to young for Maude. Of course because it was Norman Lear, Maude was the first TV person to have an abortion.
Best show.
ETA: “And then there’s Baud” would ROCK. I would contribute to that campaign.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Isn’t everyone on Balloon Juice too young for Maud?
A Ghost To Most
@trollhattan: You got 1200 baud? We had 300 baud; uphill both ways.
Whippersnappers, get off my T1.
Schlemazel
@trollhattan:
HA! a wooden box about the size of a 4 slice toaster that got 300 baud. It has larger rubber ears you put the phone receiver in. Iused to be able to whistle the frequencies that set up the connection that was necessary for testing repairs
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: Timeless is such a good show! I saved the last 5 episodes on Tivo (unwatched) until I could be sure they were really going to do a finale.
The finale recorded last night – watching Timeless might just be what I do for New Year’s.
Kent
@rikyrah: You will like it. It’s honestly more clever than Timeless.
Martin
@Baud: To their credit, when Hillary told them that the coal jobs were going away and that the feds would help them retrain, they mocked her for that.
History is awash with people that refused to accept the fate of their dying professions. I feel bad for them, but I’m not willing to back down even an inch for them. We’ve got people dying from climate change. If this the hill the coal miners wish to die on, I’m more than happy to get it over with quickly.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: ” He’s also too young to have seen a 9600 baud modem. ”
But Baud 2020!!! can do really funny beep and buzz noises for press conferences.
Will be a great Baud explainer for how his plans to deal with the cyber.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan: First modem I had was a 300 baud in grad school, but it wasn’t the handset in the receiver type just the little box that attached to the serial port on my IBM/PC.
WaterGirl
@Kent: English subtitles?
donnah
Thanks, people!
Here’s a link, in case you wanted to see it.
https://imgur.com/gallery/PPeXdYd
Schlemazel
@raven:
I believe the local side is in the Larry’s Dry cleaning and Keys Made WHile You Wait bowl against a team from GA (I forget which one)/ I m sure they will leave MNs natural humble nature unchanged
WaterGirl
@donnah: They would have to be crazy not to accept that!!! Congratulations.
Martin
@Schlemazel: Ok, that’s badass. I had a 300 baud modem. I even remember saving software to audio cassette tape. But there’s no way I could have learned to whistle those frequencies. That’s some Captn Crunch shit right there.
Gin & Tonic
For those following the Senate “drama”, Bloomberg’s Sahil Kapur is reporting that the vote on a motion to consider the funding bill (note, not the bill itself, but the question of whether to vote on it) is stuck at 44-46. This is from Twitter, so not much detail of who’s there and who’s not, etc. But they can’t (yet) successfully vote to vote on this. I’m sure all those Senators who yo-yoed on their flights back home yesterday are overjoyed by all this.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl:
That’s not the job for the President! How are you at doing funny beep and buzz noises?
Kent
@Raven Onthill:
I believe the TSA is part of the shutdown. I would expect to start seeing massive sick-outs by TSA employees who can’t afford to keep showing up to the airports and not get paid. I, for one would be using up all my sick leave if I was in that position. Shut down air travel in this country during the holiday travel season and things will get resolved in a hurry. Especially if Trump is on his 15 day Mar a Lago golf vacation courtesy of Air Force 1 while the rest of the country is sitting still in airports.
raven
@Schlemazel: The Gophers play the little bumblebees the day after exams.
Kent
@WaterGirl: Yes. I speak Spanish so I don’t really notice. But it’s really good. There’s an astonishing number of really good Spanish TV shows on Netflix these days. More so than from other European countries. I’m not sure why. Maybe they can take advantage of the massive Latin American market easier than say a Dutch or French show.
A Ghost To Most
@?BillinGlendaleCA: US Robotics? They were gods, once.
Marcopolo
@trollhattan: Oh yeah? Try playing empire on a green monochrome monitor in you dorm room using a 300 baud phone/cradle link. You could get a lot done while the screen refreshed each turn. Those were the days!
Also, since I not on that much atm happy Winter Solstice/Xmas/Festivus/Kwanza and everything else I am forgetting to everyone—I’m leaving out Han… cuz I can’t spell it.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@donnah: I remember that rug! Cool. Kids will love it.
Gin & Tonic
Also, the 5-4 SCOTUS decision on the Trump asylum ban question had Roberts and the 4 Dems together, with the rest of the R hacks dissenting. This will be an interesting remainder of term.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@A Ghost To Most: Either that or Hays.
Schlemazel
@Martin:
I met Cap’n Crunch at a party in the 70s. We got high and he showed us a bunch of spiffy tricks on phones. It changed the way I saw the world but I never really thought much about it until ~1993 when I was at a security conference with a bunch of government security people. Something came up that reminded me of one of his tricks so I related the story & the reaction I got clued into he was someone ‘important’. before that I just thought he was another long haired freak.
oatler.
@HeleninEire: Adrienne Boobaux
HeleninEire
@oatler.: Ah, the daughter. GORGEOUS.
Schlemazel
@raven:
Unless the spread is ridiculous you should bet the bees cover with plenty to spare
Martin
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Presidenting is more of a bing/bong than a beep/buzz thing.
Kent
@Schlemazel: Steve Jobs was a phone hacker in college long before he got round to inventing Apple. He mentions Captain Crunch as his inspiration.
https://www.mac-history.net/apple-people/2013-02-02/blue-box
raven
@Schlemazel: They suck and their genius coach is leaving.
Baud
@Marcopolo:
Estoy intentando de aprender español. Tendré que buscar esos programas.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Martin: Exactly, that’s why the beep/buzz is jl’s job.
ETA: I’ve also be informed that Presidenting is hard work.
WaterGirl
@Kent: Alas, I do not speak spanish.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
The TV doesn’t change itself to Fox News.
JaySinWA
@Baud: He would make a good Herald for Herald and Maude.
lamh36
I’ve been pissed about this since I saw the first tweet from the sports journalist praising it
Schlemazel
@raven:
well then maybe it will be a fair contest
although the local boys have a habit of underperforming and I don’t think they beat and decent teams this year.
Little Sister of the Poor and the St. Vitus Dance were their stellar tp a 6-6 season
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: ” How are you at doing funny beep and buzz noises? ”
You’ve seen enough of my comments for an educated guess on that.
Sorry that you are too behind the times on the innovative approaches the Baud base plans to make government more efficient.
Thousands of Baud staffers making funny beep and buzz noises will foil cyber attacks. That needs to be explained to the public.
A Ghost To Most
@Marcopolo: Shit, I remember seeing my first CRT terminal (Honeywell) in the USAF in 1976, and being blown away. It was IBM Selectric consoles, punch cards, and reel tapes then.
In 1985, Telematics, one of the first commercial network switch companies, turned over their first switch with a C compiler to me and my GE comms team, and we laid down the switch architecture in C, the first commercial network switch written in C. It had all been assembler prior.
Baud
@jl:
Brilliant! You’re my new cyber czar.
Patricia Kayden
@rikyrah: Yes, it was the Black Kenyan who did coal in. Of course, that makes a whole lot of sense. I’m curious about what Trump has done to revive the coal industry because I haven’t heard that he has.
The Dangerman
CNN reporting Jared and Pence meeting with Schumer right now. I assume some bribes are being offered and I assume Schumer has tape recorded his voice so he doesn’t have to keep repeating his “fuck you’s”.
lamh36
@lamh36: So this kid grew those locs overnight then? Not one if his coaches who know the “rules” told the kid hey you’ll have to cut ur hair before joint the team? No they rather the kid be humiliated like this? Look at that kid’s body language for fuqs sake…he looks dejected!
And number of folks, talking about it’s a rule…willing to make excuses for the ref cutting that kids hair, even after hearing about that ref’s history of racism and seeing the body language on that kid…makes me sick. I don’t care that shit should still hurt ur heart.
Look at that kids demeanor as he is getting his car cut and pretty roughly by the woman cutting it, and even after he won…and tell me that shit it ok
Cermet
@Marcopolo: I’ll meet your 300 baud and raise you punch cards.
Frankensteinbeck
@The Dangerman:
Ha ha ha ha! Well, they’re known for their vast charisma and problem solving abilities.
@Cermet:
I’m in the ‘cassette tape’ generation, myself.
Patricia Kayden
@Gin & Tonic: I guess it’s reallybtrie that Roberts cares about his legacy and won’t rubberstamp everything coming out of this regime. Good to know.
eclare
@donnah: Beautiful!
Brachiator
What a wonderful image! Hope that the trees are there, along with future generations to enjoy them.
dmsilev
Rejoice, everyone! The shutdown is sure to be avoided now that Mr. Fix-everything is on the case:
(Via TPM). You know, Schumer could earn himself a lot of liberal good-will if he leaves his office, locks the door behind him, and calls for a crew of bricklayers.
Kent
Stock market crashed again today. This is going to start getting some GOP attention. The money boys are not going to be amused, nor are all the MAGA retirees in Florida living on their 401k portfolios.
Patricia Kayden
@The Dangerman: I hope Schumer doesn’t cave in. I still don’t understand why Jared is so heavily involved in this administration.
A Ghost To Most
@Cermet: I’ll see your punch cards, and raise paper tape.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@lamh36: I have never understood some adults’ obsession with kids’ hair.
Martin
@Schlemazel: That’s super cool. Well, he was certainly important in the sense that he was inspiration and a bit of glue for so much of the early tech industry here. Probably also fair to say that some of the valley’s ‘move fast and break stuff’ attitude comes from him, given his frequent legal run-ins. I think the idea of of using the internal infrastructure of companies and markets to solve other issues really goes back to him. That’s certainly an important security area these days, as well as how many new industries have cropped up. Google mostly exists from scraping other people’s websites and giving users better access to a company’s information than the company did. That’s a very similar worldview to the phreakers.
The long haired freaks charted some pretty important ground back then.
rikyrah
@lamh36:
Been mad ever since I read about it.
Just…..ugh!!
Patricia Kayden
@Kent: Who knew that a dangerously, out of control maniac would destroy the economy?
JaySinWA
@Cermet: I’ll see your punch cards and raise you teletypes and paper tape. (well mostly exposed to them, not actually punching them) I hung around the teletypes in the newsroom at a tender age.
NotMax
@Cermet
Punch cards were versatile – fit perfectly in a shirt’s chest pocket to have as ready-made note paper – 1001 uses besides being run through a card reader.
gene108
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??:
Best counter argument I encountered to “Democrats put up all those Confederate monuments, so take that libtard” is “yeah, we did and now we want to take them down, so what’s your problem Republiclown”
The Dangerman
@Patricia Kayden:
I can’t imagine he will unless the price is sky high. I mean, it would have to be a doozy.
chopper
so, still 44-46 with NOs ahead. four dems have yet to vote and two goopers are sitting at home, so at best it’s 49-50 and the bill doesn’t advance. yertle’s held the vote open for the last four hours to no avail, and the live stream from c-span shows an empty chamber with a few interns yukking it up.
mcconnell’s gonna be pissed that drumpf put him in this situation. it’s pretty humiliating, and i’m sure his caucus isn’t gonna be happy with him for making them all come back to DC just to lose a vote.
this is a goddamned clown show.
A Ghost To Most
@Kent:
Last January, our stockbroker was pushing stocks, confident that there was little risk to the year. I asked, “What’s going to happen when the treason charges start rolling in?”
He looked at me like I was crazy.
MattF
@Schlemazel: Famous line from Dave Barry compares the sounds that an acoustic modem makes to a duck swallowing a kazoo.
Quinerly
@rikyrah: an oldie but a goodie…. “Time Bandits.”
gene108
@Kent:
The money boys probably shorted the shit out of stocks, so they will be okay.
The retirees in FL will take a hit.
Schlemazel
@Martin:
I wish that I understood who I was with at the time and had spent more time learning from him. I was pretty young and ‘tech’ did not really mean much at the time.
One of the tricks he pulled was to connect to a phone switch that was ’empty’ but anyone who connected could speak to each other like a big party line. Now I understand how that worked but at the time it was just a cute stunt
WaterGirl
@lamh36: That is so very wrong.
These entitled pricks need to stop thinking they can control everyone. Which means we have to stop letting them get away with it.
edit: Okay, I thought I was enraged BEFORE I clicked the link and saw the photo of the lily white blond publicly cutting the dreadlocks off of that young man. Now my blood is boiling.
A Ghost To Most
@gene108: Anyone equating pre-1968 and post-1968 political parties is not to be taken seriously.
lamh36
@lamh36:
Here is my thing…the coaches putting the onus on this kid to make a decision like that is bullshit. Can u imagine the pressure that kid is already under at a school and sport where he is the minority? Of course he’d say “yes cut it”. He is not the adult in this situation thoughx the fuqn coaches are. When the ref refused to let him keep the cap on even though he kid was allowed the fuqn coaches are the one to shut that shit down. Not this fuqn kid in this situation??
Again, look at that kid’s demeanor does it look like he was alright? He liked fuqn humiliated even after his win.
The “adults” in this situation failed that kid and i sincerely hope thee are consequences and repercussions!
dmsilev
@chopper: The thing is, it’s in Yertle’s power to not be humiliated by Trump like this. All he has to do is say “the votes aren’t there for WallCoin(tm)”, amend the House bill to strip that out, pass it, and punt the hot potato right back to Paul Ryan.
WaterGirl
@The Dangerman: Jared and Pence. The new power couple?
Kent
@gene108:
There are plenty of big money people stuck in stocks. All the corporate types who’s compensation is tied to the market and all the wealthy families who own big chunks of stocks and can’t easily dump it without generating capital gains taxes. If the smart money was so smart then those hedge funds would be crushing the market. They aren’t.
J R in WV
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
When I started we had a 1200 baud modem, but never got that speed using the earmuffs, here from home. We were lucky to have a single-party private phone line!
You could almost hear the dirt road in the dial-tone!
Burnspbesq
@Cermet:
Hundreds of punch cards. Now find the one with the missing period (COBOL syntax error) that is causing an entire semester of work to not run.
The joys of being an Econ major in the mid 70s.
A Ghost To Most
@Burnspbesq: You quickly learned to run a diagonal line across the deck, in case you dropped it.
chopper
@J R in WV:
1200? you were lucky! /yorkshireman
MazeDancer
@Kent:
This Dem paid attention.
In 2009, I didn’t own any stock, so I could be sympathetic to the crash, but felt no pain.
Now, I have a very modest IRA that is mostly 3 stocks: Apple, Netflix, Amazon. Making it even more modest, today. Really, really scary modest.
Netflix lost $44 a share this week alone. Amazon $400 a share since Dec 3. Apple lost $70 a share since Nov 2. I bought Apple at $80, so haven’t lost any money, yet. Same with Netflix and Amazon. Bought Netflix when everyone was saying they were over. I knew they weren’t.
But still, painful. So to everyone to whom I was not more sympathetic in 2009, many apologies.
Apple has mountains of cash. Netflix and Amazon are doing well business wise. This is all Trump.
Patricia Kayden
@donnah: Congrats Donnah!
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Assholes LOVE to talk about the “rules” and how society would fall apart without them as long as the rules are getting enforced at the expense of Black and Brown people.
Try to enforce the rules on a white man and you’ll be able to hear the screeching from 10,000 light-years away.
Yarrow
@lamh36: That is just wrong. It’s possible that some sports may have regulations regarding hair if it’s a safety issue but if that’s the case those rules should be stated up front and everyone should know ahead of time. Forcing some kid to cut his hair at the time of the match is just wrong.
@lamh36:
That’s the truth. No kid should be forced to do something like that. The adults didn’t stand up for him and they should have. The referee especially was way out of line.
trollhattan
@Baud:
Barron will be tres disappoint if he doesn’t continue to command the cybers.
J R in WV
@Schlemazel:
Why you young whippersnapper! I used to hold naked copper output cables in my bare hands and whistle the data straight into a pay-phone on a corner down in Fry’s Alley!! ;-)
Not really, but my first programs were punched onto 90 column cards!
There were several hundred freshmen and 4 terminals, quite a line for one. So I was lucky to strike up a friendship based upon being 10 years older than all the other Freshmen with a guy who maintained IBM punch machines, and he showed me how to correct typos on the cards. Still buddies 40+ years later. Short programs, just a little more than “Hello World!” which was harder than it sounds in PL/1 on an IBM ‘frame.
LuciaMia
@donnah: Thats delightful! Could you pt up a pic of it again?
Kent
@NotMax:
I spent one year at a small Christian college in 1982 that had required chapel attendance 2 or 3 times a week. All students were issued a stack of punch cards with their name on it and you turned them in one by one as you attended chapel during the week. We always tried to slip 2 or 3 into the hands of the ushers but they would mostly notice and scold you. They would haul them off campus to some corporate computer system at the end of every semester to run them and see who has been attending all their required chapels. Friends and I figured out where they stored them and broke in and stole the big box of all the turned in “chapel cards” right at the end of the semester.
jl
@Baud: ” Brilliant! You’re my new cyber czar. ”
But I want to stay Minister of Cheap Beer. Can I do both?
?BillinGlendaleCA
.@Cermet: Oh, 300 baud was for grad school, punch cards was undergrad.
We had a punch card printer that never had a working ink ribbon, so you had to run the card deck thought the compiler to get a printout of what was on the cards.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@A Ghost To Most: Just Wednesday, I was at my writer group’s holiday gathering and found myself arguing with a guy about Trump. I said judging from the old guys I see around me, Trump was showing signs of dementia (specifically the wandering). This guy said I had to accept a president with dementia because the stock market was high and taxes were low. I hope he’s thought about that conversation in the last couple of days.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Reading the update, it sounds like the referee decided to force the decision by starting a countdown clock, because he’s a ginormous racist asshole. However, once the asshole referee did that, the coaches should have called his bluff and said, “Fine, we’re cancelling all of the matches and taking our kids home.”
If that referee doesn’t get fired for this, then we’ll know for sure what’s up in that area. ?
Lapassionara
I’m sorry, I don’t trust Schumer. Wish he had Pelosi with him.
J R in WV
@A Ghost To Most:
So, That’s when thing started going to pot, the end of ASM, being replaced by C — and it’s all YOUR fault!!!
;-) I didn’t do well in ASM class personally, we were supposed to be learning IBM mainframe ASM and the teacher only knew 8080 ASM. Oops. And you prob’ly have read IBM books…
Schlemazel
@J R in WV:
I started the computer portion of my career life maintaining this sort of stuff. Teletypes, card readers, line printers (I once had a friend ask why anyone would ever need a 300 line a minute printer when nobody could read that fast)
And a Xerox Sigma V computer. 8 Bit you had to put a paper tape bootstrap into the reader than set 8 switches to set up 6 memory location so it would read the paper tape. They if had 4 large reel to reel tape cabinets and a 50K (!!!) magnetic drum storage device.
cope
@Cermet: And I see your punch cards and raise you flip-flop switches. A friend of mine made a flip-flop computer for our eighth grade science fair in ’63 or ’64. As I recall, it could add and subtract. Punch cards came later, in my college years. Now I sit here poking this out on a slab of glass, plastic and metal while watching a soccer game live from England.
trollhattan
@jl:
Can you be Minister of Good Beer at Cheap Prices? We have standards donchano.
ETA I can be undersecretary for red plastic kegger cups.
Mandalay
Li’l Marco’s words of wisdom on the wall:
He’s fucking nuts as well as spineless.
Brachiator
@lamh36:
According to the story, the kid’s coaches tried to be the kid’s advocate.
The ref seems to have clearly abused his authority. The ref also appears to have deliberately ignored rules specifically designed to deal with wrestlers with long hair.
The sports writer who tried to see this as a “heartwarming story” is full of it, so he doesn’t matter. I salute the kid for winning his match. He was clearly better than the bullshit move the ref tried to play on him.
The ref would have been happy had the kid taken a forfeit. He would have peed himself with joy had the entire squad taken a forfeit in solidarity.
But what I hope the school and other schools do, in solidarity with the wrestler, is to find a way to boot the ref out of a job.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl:
Does Mother know about this?
JPL
@?BillinGlendaleCA: i still imagine evenings in the Pence household when he yells out oh mother.
jl
@trollhattan: ” We have standards donchano.
ETA I can be undersecretary for red plastic kegger cups. ”
Standards? You’re clearly not an orthodox Baudist. I’d point this out to the boss, but I don’t know how and don’t have the attention span.
jl
@Mandalay: Marco’s bizarre attempt to be the thoughtful, detail oriented, and consistent semi-Trumpster always falls flat except as grim self-satire.
The Moar You Know
I really hope Jared is not using his world-renowned “fuck you, do it because I told you to” negotiating skills. Schumer’s not my favorite but he won’t take that treatment. Probably why Pence is there, to keep Jared from going full dipshit. Which he might anyway.
We may well end up with the federal government shut down permanently.
Kent
If McConnell is smart (and we know he is), he’ll just have the Senate pass a 2 or 3 week continuing resolution then adjourn and go home for the holidays. On the way out the door just do a big press conference about how we need more time to negotiate over the holidays and they aren’t going to shut down the country over Christmas. If the House passes the same CR word for word then there is no need for a conference and the bill can go straight to the president.
I gotta imagine that there are a lot of old GOP hands who are getting very weary of this, especially this week after the Mattis resignation.
Ohio Mom
@Yarrow: The adults stink but from what I’m gathering, so do the kid’s teammates. They are old enough to recognize an injustice in front of them and to do something about it. At the least, they could have shaved their heads in solidarity. (Okay, just read some more and it wasn’t like that. But still, wish the other kids had had enough spirit to not just be do passive).
In other news, my outgoing governor Kasich just signed a miserable bill that bans abortions after 20 weeks using the safest method, D&Cs.
He did veto the slightly more horrible heartbeat bill — he’s trying to work it both ways for his next try at the presidency. As much as you think you want to see Trump gone, that’s nothing compared to Kasich (he was just quoted as saying he doesn’t think he could win against Trump up for re-election).
JPL
Flotus is on her way to FL on the taxpayers dime. Of course she is. Trump is going to cave because he wants to go also.
I’m shocked that she doesn’t want to spend the holiest of days with her husband, Mr. Merry Christmas Again.
trollhattan
@jl:
New Reformed Baudism. That’s my bag, man!
Mandalay
@The Moar You Know:
Heh….is that something he’s known for?
I can’t imagine him being a tough guy unless he’s flanked by four heavies. And how on earth is his high, squeaky voice going to scare anyone?
jl
@JPL: It will be a permanent half-shutdown, until the current authorized funding for about half a dozen agencies shuts down. I think Defense and HHS are funded. FDA and Interior are not, IIRC.
Trump Wall is idiotic. It’s documented that even Trump thought it was a dumb idea, until his rally crowds roared their approval. If by chance Trump hadn’t remembered the idea and tried it during a lull in one of his rallies, and made some jokes about loser Democrats instead, there would be no Trump Wall.
Sooner or later, one would think the media would remember that Trump Wall, as a serious policy proposal, is a complete and documented fraud.
MomSense
@rikyrah:
I really like continuum and 12 Monkeys (until it jumped the shark at some point). I think continuum went a season and a half too long as well. It’s probably a good thing time travel shows stop before the plots get too whacked.
The best one though is Outlander. Have you read the books or watched the Starz series?
smedley the uncertain
@Cermet: 75 Baud Teletype…. RTTY for ever.
Green Keys Uber Alles. Oh, and high speed paper tape reading assembler code into the ‘Machine”. 1965
jl
@trollhattan: If there are standards I don’t see any point at all to Baud 2020! I’m out. I’ll get my own cheap beer from now on.
SFBayAreaGal
@schrodingers_cat: Not me.
Frankensteinbeck
@Kent:
We do not know that. We know he’s not an obvious moron like so many of his fellows, and we know he’s an extremist obstructionist, which is much, much easier than actually doing things. His only real accomplishment that required more than being a shit head who says ‘no’ to everything is passing only one of the two easiest bills every Republican congressman desperately wants to pass.
trollhattan
@jl:
Baud snowflake! Baud snowflake!
dmsilev
CNN has a news alert saying “McConnell and Schumer to announce possible way forward to avoid shutdown”.
No details beyond that.
Radiumgirl
@rikyrah: This actually makes sense to me. Essentially they’re saying they think the government has forced them into dependency through its anti-coal policies. So they’re dependent, but resent it. That and the fundamental misogyny — anyone who sees Trump as the lesser of two evils is severely logic-impaired.
Quinerly
@dmsilev: MSNBC chryon says McConnell is about to speak. Meanwhile, Hugh Hewitt is trying to convince Chuck Todd that Trump had a great week.
sdhays
@JPL: Michelle Obama is heading to Flori…oh. You mean THLOTUS.
trollhattan
@dmsilev:
Could it maybe involve sacrificing Jared via fire?
Amir Khalid
My weekend is good. Liverpool have won their last match before Christmas, and will top the Premier League table even if Manchester City beat Crystal Palace on Saturday. In eight of the last nine seasons, the side that led over Christmas won the title. The only exception was, um,Liverpool in 2013/14.
Cheryl Rofer
hueyplong
Unless the announcement is that Jared has surrendered to authorities, I’m skeptical.
TS (the original)
@dmsilev:
Isn’t there already this exact legislation that has passed both the house and the senate waiting for trump to sign?
Cheryl Rofer
Frankensteinbeck
@Quinerly:
I don’t honestly care about this wall vote, but I have so much leftover stress from those RBG headlines I’m anxious about how that worked out anyway.
trollhattan
“True Detective” returns Jan 13 on HBO. Yay.
Corner Stone
@dmsilev: Ruh-roh. Somebody get Scooby Doo and The Mystery Van Crew.
lollipopguild
@Dorothy A. Winsor: It’s about Control. The USA spent megatons of energy in the 60’s and 70’s having loud public debates about hair and beards. It was all about CONTROL. Having a black guy in the White House made white racist crazy people even more cray-cray. Making the black wrestler cut his hair is all about giving all black people a white middle finger.
Corner Stone
@trollhattan:
Every time I see this TV title I can’t help but see it as “Duck Detective”.
Corner Stone
Call me whatever but I’m getting a bad feeling on Chuckie Schooms.
TS (the original)
@Corner Stone: He needs Nancy in the room with him to keep him on the path of his party.
Kayla Rudbek
@jl: Commerce is not funded but Social Security is. USPTO is user-funded so it’s staying open until it runs out of user fees (I personally estimate about 10 business days for that) and then the businesses can go screaming to the Republican Congress
JPL
@Corner Stone: I don’t get it. McConnell can override any veto with a clean CR. He needs to take Ryan to a private office and say this is your legacy. Pass a clean CR.
MomSense
@A Ghost To Most:
Ha! When my mom did her PHD there was a language requirement. She chose FORTRAN.
Chris Johnson
@Gin & Tonic: That’s pretty interesting. If Roberts wants to have a reputation as a real Supreme Court Justice of a real Court, he’s gonna have to be doing that a LOT. If it can happen once, it can happen more than once.
Chris Johnson
@dmsilev: “For the love of God, Montressor!”
Mary G
I know everyone is probably busy with holiday things, and I should be too, but bookmark this essay by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse on Crooked Media for when you have time for a long read:
STOP LOSING: A SENATOR’S BATTLE PLAN FOR BEATING THE RIGHT
Then he discusses:
Walking Away from Fights
“Messaging”
Ignoring the Adversary Institutions
Being a Ridiculously Cheap Date
Being Disorganized and Incapable of Running Plays
Circular Firing Squads and Purity Tests
The Real Majority
Lessons of Trump
dmsilev
@MomSense: My dad did exactly the same thing.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@donnah: it’s such a stunning piece and it deserves a place of honor where both kids and adults can enjoy it.
donnah
@LuciaMia:
Thanks! I posted a link to it here at #51
Thanks again, everyone!
Scamp Dog
@trollhattan: Ha! When I bought my first modem, I went with the high speed one: 300 baud! Eat my dust, 110 baud losers!
Ksmiami
@??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: moochers and losers- I have nothing but contempt and hatred for them- sorry
stinger
@donnah: Congratulations! It is a beautiful piece!
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
It has subtitles! Clearly visible on the trailers at the page Kent linked to.