#BREAKING: Judge just ruled Georgia CANNOT certify election results in Gov’s race until FRIDAY. State must establish a hotline for voters to call, review each provision ballot, and justify every vote that was thrown out. bottom line: Georgia still does not have a Governor-Elect. pic.twitter.com/B1vPGdrb13
— Kaitlyn Ross 11Alive (@kaitlynross1) November 13, 2018
Federal judge rules Georgia must wait to certify election: https://t.co/wKTlwKgncW via @YouTube
— 11Alive News (@11AliveNews) November 13, 2018
And while Ms. Abrams continues her battle against the voices of disenfranchisement…
It's really hard to read about what's likely to happen with a Democratic House without thinking "Well, the grownups have arrived". The big question is whether the public actually likes grownups https://t.co/TI8wHO9fZS
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) November 12, 2018
One factor of the investigation announcements by prominent Democrats, right now, is to encourage what are politely called ‘wavering’ Repubs — those whose future chances don’t rest on applauding Trump’s every verbal bowel movement, not to mention those with a skeleton or seventeen in their personal closets — to consider whether it might be wiser to join forces and call for ‘bipartisanship’ rather than pin their hopes on the not-looking-so-Teflon Donald.
From the company paper, in the town where national politics is the monopoly industry:
…[M]ultiple Democrats who will be chairing committees in the new Congress made clear that they already have a clear idea of the matters they’ll be investigating and they’re ready to use their subpoena powers if the administration refuses to cooperate. You can be sure that when all this begins, Republicans will portray it as madness, a chaotic eruption of politically motivated probes with no legitimate purpose. The truth, however, is that Democrats seem to know exactly what they’re doing…
When Republicans inevitably begin whining that Democrats are being too aggressive in all this oversight, remember how they be-clowned themselves through the Obama years, trying to gin up one phony scandal after another, including mounting seven, yes, seven separate investigations of Benghazi. We can and should have vigorous debates about what is being uncovered, how to understand it and what should be done about it. But the last thing we should do is waste our time arguing about whether there are too many investigations.
If the Trump administration is a bastion of integrity and public-spiritedness, that’s what the investigations will reveal. And if the president himself has displayed nothing but the highest ethical standards and respect for law throughout his career, that’s what we’ll learn. The sense of dread spreading over the White House and the Republican Party right now isn’t because they think House Democrats will waste everyone’s time with these investigations; it’s because they know there’s so much misbehavior to be uncovered. The public deserves to see and understand all of it, and if that winds up hurting Republicans, they have only themselves to blame.
rikyrah
Good Morning,Everyone ???
CarolDuhart2
i think we will find all of the neglected and abused parts of the government even worse than that.
I’m looking forward to all of the Republican resignations from the House.
Baud
Truth.
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
J.
Bring it, Nancy. #LockHimUp
rikyrah
@MichelleObama: Chicago made me who I am. I wanted to pay tribute to the South Side community that poured so much love into me from the beginning…
https://twitter.com/MichelleObama/status/1062196568370171907?s=17
rikyrah
@skepticalbrotha: MAMA AIN’T PLAYING: Pelosi Unveils House Diversity Office To Recruit Staff From Varying Backgrounds
https://t.co/goc5M… https://twitter.com/skepticalbrotha/status/1062203619125149698?s=17
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Rohrabacher’s rental house is a metaphor for what we’ll find is the state of our federal government when we finally expose it to the light of day.
RedDirtGirl
Good morning, all!
MazeDancer
Runoffs! Got to support our Dems.
Write PostCards for Mike Espy to win the Senate in MS. (Opponent is the “front-row seat to a public hanging” racist.) Nov 27th runoff.
And Gwen Collins-Greenup for Secretary of State in Louisiana. She and the incumbent both got about 20% in a crowded field. The incumbent was an interim appointed because the first SoS resigned due to sexual harassment charges.
Gwen ran on a $1600 budget. SoS is key to the election future. Dec 8th runoff.
Turnout is what will make all the difference in a runoff.
You can do a few, you know you can. Let’s support our Dems all the way.
PostCardPatriots.com
Click “Write for Runoffs”
OzarkHillbilly
QFT.
Schlemazel
@OzarkHillbilly:
Never forget that those 7 were in addition to 2 separate ones from the State Dept and at least 1 from DoD
?BillinGlendaleCA
I went to The Huntington yesterday with Madame and shot 20 shots at different focus points to get this sharp picture. Fun with focus stacking!
debbie
@Baud:
I think that after two years, even the most doting parent would tire of a child’s constant tantrums.
Xboxershorts
@CarolDuhart2:
I am personally hopeful that the agency’s we’ve established to protect Americans from the abuses of Corporate America can be taken back and made to work for the people. Regulatory Capture has been very, very bad for the average American.
OzarkHillbilly
The US citizens bypassing university to protect their parents from Ice
RedDirtGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: That is brilliant!
JGabriel
Paul Waldman @ WaPo via Anne Laurie @ Top:
Sound like someone ate their bowl of Snark-Fortified Cheerios™ this morning.
_______________________
P.S. Really getting sick of having to type in my info every. damn. time. I post a comment.
The “Save my name, etc.” checkbox doesn’t seem to be working at all. If it helps with troubleshooting, I’m on Google Chrome Version 70.0.3538.102 (Official Build) (64-bit).
?BillinGlendaleCA
@RedDirtGirl: Thanks, it’s got one problem; I’m using some new software and I’ll see how to fix it. If you look carefully in back of the pavilion at the back of the lake you can see an earth mover. They’re expanding the garden.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@JGabriel: I’m using Chrome’s autofill, make’s commenting much less painful.
Another Scott
@JGabriel: Well known problem. Upgrades are coming to fix these problems (were delayed until after the elections). Dunno if Major^4’s recent move has delayed them further.
tl;dr – patience, grasshopper.
Cheers,
Scott.
JPL
Trump is up and tweeting
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Nice.
Baud
@JPL: I’m up and not caring.
zhena gogolia
@JPL:
He’s been talking to Putin all right.
boatboy_srq
You will recall that “bipartisanship” to the GOTea translates as “Democrats doing what we want.”
Dorothy A. Winsor
@JPL: I thought he wanted Europe to stop relying on the US military. I’m so confused.
Oh wait. He just wants them to give him his damn money.
boatboy_srq
@JPL: @OzarkHillbilly: The permanent underclass enters its second generation.
Barbara
@Dorothy A. Winsor: He wants them to pay us for the privilege of having us tell them what to do.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: You and Melania.
Aleta
@?BillinGlendaleCA: That is so cool.
rikyrah
@MazeDancer:
Thanks for this
JPL
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I don’t know. It’s so confusing.
rikyrah
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Beautiful
danielx
@boatboy_srq:
Which Republican asshole was it who equated bipartisanship with date rape?
Frankensteinbeck
I had a thought. One of the big questions has been when the Republican Party will turn against Trump. The question means the elected officials, not the base. I think the point where it might change is if McConnell loses his position for any reason. Trump is not the head of the party. McConnell calls the shots for the Senate, and the Republican leadership in the House follows McConnell’s lead. McConnell went bugfuck ‘burn it all down’ nuts when Obama was elected. McConnell could rein in Trump with a snap of his fingers. Instead he fanatically covers for Trump. There is no reason to expect him to stop as long as he leads the Senate Republicans. If he goes, which there is no reason to expect soon, then there is a chance of a shakeup. Not until then.
Evidence of this theory, although not conclusive either way, would be significant numbers of defectors in House votes under Pelosi. That would suggest the apparent fanaticism of House Republicans is a deck stacked by Boehner and Ryan.
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
I despise those who created this environment
JPL
@Frankensteinbeck: The republican party will just elect someone worse, because there is no bottom.
rikyrah
@boatboy_srq:
Phuck.outta.here with the bi-partisanship
Baud
Vox
Aleta
Baud
Aleta
Frankensteinbeck
@JPL:
But not someone with more control. The only ‘worse’ direction is incompetence or personal criminal sin. McConnell is a fanatic partisan with a lust for hurting the US people. I cannot sufficiently stress how much he and a Boehner got us here, and Boehner followed McConnell’s lead. Republican voters are deranged, many of their elected officials equally so, but the unified partisan nihilism was forged by McConnell when Obama was elected, and all of its most insane moments have been McConnell and Boehner’s work.
Baud
JPL
@Frankensteinbeck: I give you majority leader Tim Cotton.
OzarkHillbilly
@Frankensteinbeck:
You can expect Repubs to become even more extreme in their bugnutfuckall crazy. The sane ones left. The semi sane ones lost their re-election bids. What is left?
Chyron HR
@Aleta:
Can’t they at least keep up the pretense of calling it “the federal government”?
Gin & Tonic
@Dorothy A. Winsor: It’s “Fuck you, pay me.”
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
All that is left…the lunatics.
Who should be told to sit down and STFU
OzarkHillbilly
@Frankensteinbeck:
Boehner was forced out by the Freedom caucus because he wasn’t insane enough to suit them.
Aleta
@Chyron HR: They’d have to be suspicious of themselves then.
JDM
I’d like to be beyond the time where we can be surprised and happy that a judge has ruled that votes in an election be counted.
JPL
@Gin & Tonic: I do give trump credit for not educating Macron on the meaning of nationalism and America first.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Baud: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This Congress is going to pass one hell of a lot of bills, great ones. And McConnell thinks he’ll be the place where bills go to die, but I think that enough Senators will feel the heat of public opinion and the threat of 2020, that there will be some big-time caving.
Helped out by the celebrations of Indict-mas.
Frankensteinbeck
@OzarkHillbilly:
No, he wasn’t. Boehner quit when he felt like it, and at that had to hunt to find his own successor because no one else could offer one. The freedom caucus would have been a laughable rump without Boehner enforcing an absolutely insane distilled version of the Hastert Rule that no one, including Hastert, used before. Even used it precisely because everyone knew there were enough defectors to easily pass Democratic legislation. The freedom caucus were a pain in the ass to their best friend, but they never had the numbers to replace him. If they forced him out, it was only by being so irritating he didn’t want the job anymore.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Speaking of Indict-mas, does anyone have some reasonably knowledgeable tea-leaf reading on what it means about Fox and Wikileaks going dark on Twitter and Drudge deleting his entire history? Especially the latter. Is Drudge being indicted for criminal tweets or something?
I know nobody knows till Mueller chooses to let us know, but we have some good legal minds here who could do a decent job of intelligence analysis. Hell we may have some actual intel analysts.
rikyrah
I hope that one of the Front pagers would post about this Twitter thread.
ICYMI,
The Fox news Twitter feed has gone dark, as have other right wing places.
This thread’s speculation
https://twitter.com/DirkSchwenk/status/1062217642428252160
Dorothy A. Winsor
I swear to God this tweet is real:
Platonailedit
gvg
@Frankensteinbeck: I slightly disagree. I don’t think anyone can rein in Trump. He isn’t smart enough to believe in consequences and has no real long term plans or strategies. I think he used to be smarter, but I am not sure. No matter what, he will keep doing stupid malicious stuff.
Now, I do think that the house and senate both could have stopped a bunch of stuff from actually being implemented, but not all, and Trump would keep trying.
When the house prevents him from getting his way on something he really wants, he is going to turn his attention to them and declare war. It’s going to be worse than the most negative campaign you have ever heard of. this will somewhat distract him from pounding us, unless someone clever explains how he can take some of us hostage to force the house to do some things (dreamers while it was Obama)
Platonailedit
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Peak wingnut has been achieved, surely?
cain
Just label every investigation into Republicans as some form of Benghazi follow-up. Apparently we can have unlimited number of Benghazi hesrongs.
OzarkHillbilly
@Frankensteinbeck:
So ummmm, no.
Frankensteinbeck
@OzarkHillbilly:
Remember the discussions Balloon Juice had at the time. That Boehner waited until he got his personal ambition, a papal visit. That Boehner couldn’t quit because there was no one who could please both sides. That it was so bad there was a slight chance Nancy would get the gavel. That there was a delay past when he announced he was quitting until Boehner, personally, found Ryan, convinced Ryan to run, and convinced everyone else to vote for him. Boehner wasn’t fired. He quit.
And remember the many, many bills where we agreed they would pass easily if brought to the floor. Boehner refused to let it happen.
OzarkHillbilly
Time to go to yet another funeral and burial at JB. Hope y’all have a better day than I.
Platonailedit
EU court: Cheese it.
Frankensteinbeck
@OzarkHillbilly:
Your article confirms everything I just said. ‘Facing a challenge’ is a threat, not an action, and they were threatening it for ages.
Starfish
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Allegedly,some of these organizations are boycotting Twitter due to the harassment of Tucker Carlson that was greatly exaggerated.
Patricia Kayden
Maryland is suing Trump over his appointment of Whitaker as Acting AG. Good. Trump is not above the law.
Platonailedit
@Frankensteinbeck: Yup, boehner was basically a coward bullied by teanutz.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Starfish: I heard that. It strikes me as a weak cover story and not a very plausible one. It especially doesn’t explain Drudge to me.
Jeffro
@JGabriel: I’m starting to think that Dana Milbank’s desk must be near Paul Waldman’s…Donald Trumpov Knows The True Meaning of Sacrifice
ouuuuuuuuch!
Frankensteinbeck
@Platonailedit:
‘Bullied by’ maybe, but not ‘forced.’ He chose unprecedented obstruction. Nancy would have let him keep his seat if he’d been reasonable, and the lunatics were barely enough to force a vote if they ever got off their asses and did it. And he was following McConnell’s lead in that obstruction, although if he was following McConnell’s orders is only my speculation.
captnkurt
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Nice! This image TOTALLY makes me think of those old GAF Viewmaster gadgets I played with as a kid.
Quinerly
@captnkurt: I’m smiling. Found my old View Master on one of these last NC trips, in my old bedroom closet, top shelf box, house I grew up in. Still loaded with a slide of “Dark Shadows.” The ones for “The Wild, Wild West” and “The Monkees” were close by in the same box. ?? I guess I’m really dating myself.
JPL
@Dorothy A. Winsor: What? Just to be sure, I went to realpresssecbot to verify. Something is wrong with him.
zhena gogolia
@JPL:
It’s like that old novelty song by Napoleon XIV, “They’re coming to take me away, haha!”
zhena gogolia
@Quinerly:
Oh, how I wish I had my View Master. (Mine had Debra Paget and Rhonda Fleming.)
Villago Delenda Est
@JGabriel: I was going to blockquote that particular bit of vitamin enriched snark, but you’ve done it for me.
Ladyraxterinok
@JPL: Sure sounds like SOMEBODY wants conflict (war???) between France and Germany! What an absolutely horrible statement for someone like Trump who was born in the shadow of WWII to make!!
Amir Khalid
@Starfish:
Boycotting Twitter over harrassment of Tucker Carlson would make sense only if Twitter were harrassing him.
Aleta
@Quinerly:
Walking down the street
We get the funniest looks from
Everyone we meet
MomSense
It’s another cold and rainy day. The dog has taken her place by the fire and appears to have decided to sleep through the bad weather. I’m leaving the door to the shower open just in case.
Amir Khalid
@Ladyraxterinok:
The Franco-German relationship has changed significantly since the end of WWII. Clearly, Trump has not been keeping up with current events.
rikyrah
@Quinerly:
Morning to Poco and the tribe. :)
Platonailedit
Spanky
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Whatever you’re smoking, I want some.
Gin & Tonic
@Amir Khalid: Apparently the French government saw fit to send a representative to Arlington yesterday. The head of the US government, of course, didn’t see fit to be there.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Spanky: I reached my limits on Eeyorism, that’s all. I’ve decided to have a little enjoyment of our electoral wins and not go straight into doom and gloom before the new fricken Congress even meets.
But you enjoy your pessimism. Just vote Dem when elections come up, ok?
p.a.
Whatever shit the investigations expose will overwhelm our capacity to process. Hell, the massive corruption and venality now, with Rethugs providing cover, is impossible to keep in order (Josh Marshall has to sleep sometime. I guess.)
But that doesn’t matter: death by a thousand cuts. Creating the zeitgeist of corruption/racism/incompetence is what will happen, with a collusion/conspiracy cherry on top probably. Might even impact some of the 40 +/- percent.
Elizabelle
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
I agree with you. Yea Ceci!
Kay
@Baud:
I’m glad. They have to focus. I was in the car this morning and I heard NPR going on and on about Trump, Trump, Trump. It was supposedly analysis of what the Democrats might do but it was all about their favorite subject- Donald Trump.
Democratic policy is more popular than conservative policy. I know you say people like Democratic ideas but hate Democrats and that is probably true, so they need to stick to their midterm approach which was about promoting popular policy. The Trump obsessives in media will try to pull them off task and focus on Trump- they have to resist. Voting rights, health care, wage increases, all of these issues won big at the referendum level even in red states They’re popular. Trump’s policies are unpopular.
I think they should hammer Trump on not coming thru on infrastructure. Infrastructure is popular. He’ll offer some garbage bill but they should ignore it and just repeat over and over that he failed on infrastructure. They could take that away from him. Refuse to pass his garbage and then blame him for not getting it done.
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: They are incapable of learning, our media.
Amir Khalid
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
I wish I were as optimistic as you. But I fear Senate Republicans will see themselves as their paymasters’ last line of defence against the Democratic horde, and dig in.
Haroldo
@Kay:
This is the truth. You’ve outlined the illness and the cure.
P.S. NPR sends me into a rage, to such an extent that I can’t (and won’t) listen to it. The BBC, ABC, and CBC all have their problems, but I can get a much clearer picture of what’s going on by listening to their streaming services.
Platonailedit
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Yup. The self fulfilling prophecy of some around here that regardless of the wins the dems score against all odds that dems will lose, by parroting/referencing msm/rethug/loony left lines/framing, is turning out to be a turn-off.
SFAW
@rikyrah:
As Schwenk says on his twitter thread, holy shitballs. There were a lot of “dark” sites, including Drudge, Dr Jill Vladimirovna Stein, Ghouliani; Kim Dotcom, and a host of others. Schwenk is trying to guess/predict what’s up. It’s pretty interesting.
Kay
@Haroldo:
I don’t care enough about NPR to get sent into rage – I just find them incredibly annoying. The piece was billed as “Democrats plans” but instead it was that bullshit they do where they make it all about Trump- “will they try to IMPEACH our leader?” . I’m sick of Trump and I’m sick of them obsessing over him, too.
But I’m hopeful because Democrats resisted the caravan bullshit and all the other 5000 Trump distractions in their campaigns- they have an actual voter mandate for their policy. They got elected on it.
schrodingers_cat
@SFAW: What is kimdotcom? I recognize the other actors.
Gin & Tonic
@schrodingers_cat: Kim Dotcom is a guy who’s been convicted, IIRC, of some Internet “piracy” charges related to a site he ran called MegaUploads. He’s a NZ resident, and I think he ran for political office there. He is fighting extradition to the US (he is German, I think)
Platonailedit
@Kay:
Yup. All the totus thug’s and the msm’s third rate scare tactics didn’t work at all.
schrodingers_cat
@Gin & Tonic: I remember that site. Does it have anything to do with T and his election?
geg6
@rikyrah:
That’s a fascinating thread. No idea who the guy is, but it does explain a few things though a bit too much wild eyed speculation there. However, here’s hoping he’s right.
AlienRadio
@schrodingers_cat: Kim Dotcom, was involved in running megaupload I think??? (memory hazy) but it was essentially a haven for piracy. even from a hacktivist point of view he was dodgy ’cause he was profiting off it via advertising rather than just making everything freely available. wound up moving to new zealand at some point. how he’s linked to this network of actors I’m not sure.
Gin & Tonic
@schrodingers_cat: He may have been a conduit for Assange; I’m pretty sure he has visited Julian and certainly has communicated with him.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@SFAW: I read some of the Schwenk thread. He’s speculating that the twitter shutdowns are by a court order to avoid tainting the jury pool in advance of some big-time indictments coming down. And he admits that would raise some serious First Amendment issues (for once the right wing would be on at least debatable ground to scream “First Amendment”) but says that prior speech can be restricted on those kinds of narrow grounds.
I dunno. And I’m not sure it explains Drudge deleting his twitter history. That just smells of blind panic to me, but panic about what?
Also, lots of people are mentioning a mysterious Murdoch-McConnell meeting (ooh, alliteration!) that might have been the actual precipitating event. Though again nobody has any solid guesses as to what could have happened in that meeting that would have led to this result.
At any rate, I think these are clearly signs that Trump is about to get some very, very bad news of some kind. Wouldn’t it be cool if the state propaganda outlets like Fox got slapped down too?
bystander
@Aleta: Is she the same QC who was a child actress specializing in precocious and deadly serious? Foster child of Sada Thompson on Family?
schrodingers_cat
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: It almost seems to easy. I am a bit wary. We shall soon see. And with the walls closing in T is going to attempt to do some really bad shit to immigrants. Brace for impact.
Haroldo
@Kay:
No argument from me. Intelligent and shrewd statement of policy is what worked and will work.
rikyrah
I don’t know what indictments will or will not be coming from Bobby Three Sticks…
but, here’s the thing..
There is NO SUCH THING as a PERJURY TRAP.
Either you tell the truth..
Or you LIE….
And, If you tell the truth, then you don’t have to worry about lying. ….
But, I do admit.. I might go buy myself a scotch if Roger Stone gets indicted. Just linger over it, as I think of all the lives he has tried to destroy over the years..
The Moar You Know
@boatboy_srq: Depends where you live. Here in Southern California, they’re on the fifth or sixth.
tokyokie
@zhena gogolia:
You had Hollywood babes? We just had national parks and Bugs Bunny. Still, it’d be cool if I still had that stuff.
germy
rikyrah
@Kay:
They can do both,Kay.
Pass leglislation that will die in the Senate and Do Investigations…
Frankensteinbeck
@Platonailedit:
I think they worked very well. Republican turnout was unusually strong. Our turnout was stronger. Democrats are motivated in a way no one has seen in more than a generation.
Aleta
Bangor Daily News
gvg
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Drudge apparently has a history of deleting periodically and he has recently been pretty Anti Trump so I think that one has nothing to do with it.
germy
@gvg: Is he anti-Trump because he thinks Trump doesn’t go far enough?
I admit I don’t read him.
Aleta
@bystander: Huh, don’t know. She’s funny though.
Aleta
@bystander: Yeah seems like. Also played Lucy McFadden in Neil Simon’s The Goodbye Girl.
The Moar You Know
@germy: I hope CNN loses. I really do, because I want a precedent that allows the next Dem president to ban Fox News entirely from the White House grounds.
They were never a news organization in the first place and don’t belong there.
SFAW
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
From your lips/keyboard to FSM’s
orechietyorrocchhettiarachnietyearsgwangung
@OzarkHillbilly:
Well, this administration shows no respect for rules of privacy.
And past administrations, like the Roosevelt administration, have ratted out minorities to be rounded up.
Combine those two facts and you get justifiable fear.
Yarrow
@SFAW: It seems unlikely that Jill Stein would go dark on Twitter to protest some treatment of Tucker Carlson. That excuse has always seemed made up to me.
Kristine
@Aleta: Hey, hey!
SFAW
@Aleta:
I hope Poliquin is told to go fuck himself by any Court he’s lucky enough to come before.
Seriously:
“Mr. Poliquin, since it seems clear that Rethuglicans have a tough time winning without an ‘activist judge’ helping them out, here’s MY activist ruling: Go forth from this courtroom and go fuck yourself. With a rusty pitchfork. Repeatedly.”
Elizabelle
@rikyrah: I’d treat you to that Scotch. Top shelf!
SFAW
@Yarrow:
I agree. On the other hand, if you changed that name to “Julian Assange” or “Vladimir Putin,” I could see it.
germy
SFAW
@Elizabelle:
Count me in. (For treating rikyrah, that is, although I wouldn’t refuse some nice single-malt myself.)
Yarrow
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: i’ve also read speculation that those organizations’ and people’s lawyers have instructed them to stop tweeting because of some preservation of evidence orders or something like that.
Villago Delenda Est
@AlienRadio: The sooner he’s boiled in oil, the better.
Yarrow
@germy: Her last tweet was Nov 9. All those accounts stopped tweeting or in the case of Matt Drudge deleted his tweets on November 8 or 9. The Fox News on stopped after Rupert Murdoch visited McConnell.
Platonailedit
khead
@Kay:
Too late. That “ship done sailed” when the Dems were in the minority. Dems are responsible for those bills now. If you want the House to continually pass infrastructure bills that have no chance of passing the Senate? Hey, that would be great. But it also runs the risk of giving Trump a “bipartisan victory” on infrastructure if one actually gets through. So I am guessing we are stuck with the alternative of bridges falling down.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Starfish: So their silence is supposed to punish us? LOLOL
germy
@Yarrow:
And Drudge responds by deleting all his tweets?
I guess once they're gone, they're gone forever.
Waldo
@Yarrow:
All very intriguing. I guess we’ll find out soon enough. In the meantime, I guess we should enjoy the silence.
boatboy_srq
@The Moar You Know: Referring specifically to citizen students sacrificing their education (and thereby careers) to protect their undocumented parents.
Of course it goes on multiple generations. That’s the Reichwing plan. Du Vois would never have been appointed SecEd otherwise, for example.
germy
According to “Business Insider” Fox News is boycotting twitter because of the incident at Tucker’s house.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-broke-fox-twitter-blackout-to-post-about-assault-allegations-2018-11
Yarrow
@germy: LOL. Dumbest excuse ever. As I said above, I’m sure Jill Stein didn’t stop tweeting at the same time because of something happening to Tucker Carlson.
Gravenstone
@debbie: Children eventually outgrow their tantrums. Trump, on the other hand …
Kay
@germy:
I think the “Russian agent” theme gives her too much credit. She’s a grifter on the Left. The Right has grifters and the Left does too, except the Left’s are less powerful and numerous because mainstream liberals and Democrats didn’t embrace them, and mainstream conservatives and Republicans DID embrace theirs.
If Jill Stein was on the Right she would have a FOX show and be making ten million dollars a year. She’s not, so she does these other things.
germy
@Kay: Good point.
Our hacks have to freelance.
Their hacks are taken care of.
Uncle Cosmo
@Aleta: It’s an LOG-OP sale:
Kay
@germy:
Ed Schultz. He rode the Left gravy train as long as he could and then when he became fringe he went to the Russians because there was no where else to make a living at Left-grifting. There’s just limited opportunities for them in mainstream Democratic and liberal circles, unlike on the Right where it’s like winning the fucking lottery. It’s markets! They have a better market environment for grifters in the Right, hence, there are more of them and they’re richer.
gvg
@gwangung: the FAFSA is processed by the federal government and then is sent to the schools. if a student applies, then the government has the info before the schools. The schools can’t protect the data. On the other hand some of the data comes from tax info pulled from the IRS, so it seems to me, they already have most of it.
Dreamers and non citizens aren’t eligible to even apply on the FAFSA. People without SS#’s also can’t fill it out, and that isn’t new. I honestly don’t think this is really new, it’s just that Trumps attacks have made other people notice. Its also likely that students in this scenario feel they can’t ask for advice on alternative funding sources.
Kay
@germy:
We had the funniest case here. It was about “human trafficking”. These two nutjobs decided this local woman had been “trafficked” as a child and they just happened to hit on youtube right as the Trump loonies were taking off on the Q bulllshit. It’s fascinating to see it up close. You can have an actual job as a conspiracy theorist. Like, local! You can be a small-market conspiracy theorist. They were like the bottom feeders of the far Right. There’s enough profit to throw some off to the 3rd or 4th tier.
Yarrow
@Kay: Stein is a Russian asset not an agent. Russia fundss her to further increase fractures on the left in the US. She’s been very useful to them.
Kay
Okay who’s waiting for indictments? I am! You know who you are :)
My son and I call these “indictment days”. It’s becoming a cherished family tradition.
Kay
@Yarrow:
She’s not among these, but you wonder about principled Lefties defending Putin’s Russia. They know it’s not “Left”, right? They must have picked that up by now, that it’s a Right wing authoritarian state that is also deeply corrupt and run by oligarchs. They’re weirdly sentimental about it.
Yarrow
@Kay: They’re not “weirdly sentimental” about it. They’re being paid to do it. Stein is part of that group.
Mike in DC
@Kay: It’s a convoluted thing. One part ussr nostalgia, one part “America is a force for evil in the world so we should support anyone who opposes them”, and one part swallowing RT propaganda hook, line and sinker. That there are Americans who are ostensibly “left” who think that Bashir al Assad is unfairly maligned distresses me to no end.
bluefoot
@Kay: I am hoping for an Oprah-like indictment day – “You get an indictment, and you get an indictment and….”
Princess
Things that make me say hmmm:
Brad Parscale has been booted from Twitter. He’s a jerk, but I don’t recall him doing anything ban-worthy, given the people who they do allow on there.
Kay
@bluefoot:
Might be Don Jr! Come on. That’s excellent.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Kay: I’m seeing reports that reporters are gathered at the Justice Dept because they anticipate indictments. Please don’t let this be a disappointment!
Elizabelle
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Whee!
Indictments, please. Although: I am good with waiting until the Democratic House deals with them. Who knows what these off the scales GOP obstructionist/criminals will do?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@JPL:
And…? Did you read the bit that Trump is merely another Glen Beck 2.0; nothing more than a rodeo clown?
Spanky
@Kay: We’re all waiting for indictments, but a lot of us got too wound up in Fitzmas back in the day.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Frankensteinbeck: One would think that the GOP senate went from “it’s a sure bet we pick up 6 seats because of the math”, to “maybe we might get one seat” be enough toss Turtle. But then covering up failing old white men is a Republican policy.
Platonailedit
The
walldominoes have started crumbling?Kay
Here’s an indictment for ya:
If they start indicting on ethics charges the entire Trump Administration have to leave.
sdhays
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: One thing that gets missed in all the talk about McConnell is that he’s not running things. Boehner wasn’t running things either. They all have the same masters calling the shots.
No one is going to blame McConnell for this pathetic performance. It’s definitely not McConnell’s fault that Ted Cruz almost lost his seat, for example. If they feel the need to blame anyone, Spankee’s the one that those people can agree on, even if they’re careful not to say it out loud — or at least only anonymously.
Frankensteinbeck
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
McConnell is reportedly hated by his caucus and treats them like shit. Hell if I know why they stick with him. On the other hand, they’re Republicans, who usually think that kind of behavior is strength.
Another Scott
@Kay: Of course, the recent SCOTUS case involving former governor Bob McDonnell means that there is No Corruption unless there is audio and video of a direct quote along the lines of “Thank you for giving me money to do what you want in knowing direct violation of my oath”…
(sigh)
Cheers,
Scott.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Instead, she fleeced the rubes to the tunes of millions in 2016….which she’s never accounted for.
But, Kay, she is a Russian stooge.
I don’t believe in coincidences. I simply don’t.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Both hands raised.
ME ME ME ME
Mike in DC
@Platonailedit: Maddow’s gonna need a wide shot with a whole bank of monitors showing the complete list of departures to date. Gonna be close to 2 out of 3 by the end of the year.
PJ
@Kay: @Mike in DC: The “America is bad, and if it looks like America might have done something good, it’s just a coverup for something bad” people will support any actor who is against American power, policy, or a healthy, functional democracy here. If this means helping Republicans gain or keep power, so be it, as long as it weakens the US.
Luthe
@sdhays: Who can we blame Chuck Schumer on?
Kay
@PJ:
I actually think the US Right wing alliance with the Right wing in Russia is fascinating. It makes so much sense that they would align. I don’t know why it took so long. Of course Trump loves them- he absolutely shares their values.
Immannetize
If Trump really wants to fire Kirstjen Nielsen, who is going to actually do it? Kelly won’t — for reasons….
Mnemosyne
@Platonailedit:
Toldja yesterday. He’s not going to let them fire his side piece Nielsen without quitting himself. Bank on it.
Dan B
Speculation here. Trump admin makes overtures to new Brazilian president to invade Venezuela.
Seems like a long shot but… easier than Iran because less likely to rapidly expand to full tilt regional war, and beyond.
Assumes logical planners in WH not in evidence.
Scamp Dog
@Baud:
The real question is whether the media village actually likes grownups. Short answer: No.