Saturday Open Thread: Welcome Cleo

This adorable fluffball was found in the garage of geg6. That cute face has now convinced her to become a cat person (welcome to the cult).

… she’s a sweetie and quite smart. She has made me go out and buy a bed, fancy food/water bowl and numerous toys. She’s very manipulative like that. 😉

Welcome, Cleo!

Open thread.

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    Sheesh, we seemed to have had a little blip. I’m going to pull this post and post it again later this afternoon.

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    spudgun says:

    She’s adorable!! And she looks like a Cleo – excellent name choice.

    Congrats, geg6!

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    rikyrah says:

    Too cute for words 😍😍 😍

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @TaMara (HFG): The server started going down, then actually crashed, right after I hit publish on my previous post. Alain submitted a ticket. I’m going to try unpublishing it and see if that fixes things.

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    zhena gogolia says:


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    ….and we’re back!

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    Mary G says:

    You and your John (yes, someone will make a dirty joke, but that’s what geg6 calls him) have been honored to let Cleo adopt you. She is cute as a bug.

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    dmsilev says:

    My parents had a Siamese named Cleo before I was born. My mom described her personality as ‘she thought she was a German Shepard’. Very aggressive to people outside the family, for starters.

    When I came along, she used to perch on the crib and flick her tail around for me to grab at, which caused any number of visitors who knew her to get alarmed that the cat was going to bite the baby…

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    trollhattan says:

    Crap, the NorCal Camp Fire is flipping direction and heading south, potentially threatening Oroville (semi-famous for being evacuated during the dam spillway incident). The winds are kicking up later today. Footprint map here.

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    Yarrow says:

    Oh, she’s so cute! I can see the “black eyeliner.”

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    Gustopher says:

    So fuzzy. So rumpled. Poor little thing needs to be pampered.

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    Yarrow says:

    I want to know how the doggies are adjusting to having a kitten around.

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    I have to tell you guys, I’m so bummed. I came out of the kitchen today to find Bixby and Gabe snuggled down on the couch together. Gabe actually lying between Bixby’s big paws. I was going to snap a photo, but Scout came bounding in and woke them. But it was so freakin’ adorable.

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    debbie says:

    Such a face! Congratulations!

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    spudgun says:

    @zhena gogolia: You and me both! It’s been a year and a half for me – time to hit the local SPCA…

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    Mnemosyne says:

    So cute! Assuming the dogs don’t think she’s a prey animal, everyone should get along fine, and Cleo will probably start imitating her older sisters and become quite dog-like to fit in with them.

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    MazeDancer says:

    Yay, geg6!

    And so it begins. Well chosen, Cleo. You picked the right garage.

    Thursday was Free Adoption Day at Dutchess Country SCPA.

    Actually, it’s Free Adoption Day until Nov 23. Any animal who has been there longer than 14 days is free.

    Two kittens came home with me. Had to do it.

    One was not free. But otherwise perfect. When they hold still, will try to post pictures.

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    Tinare says:

    Good kitty!

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    spudgun says:

    @MazeDancer: congratulations!

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    cain says:

    @zhena gogolia:
    Only one? As soon as I move back to Oregon, I’m gettin two! And a dog too.

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    NobodySpecial says:

    Welcome! Recently became the forever home of stray myself. Hopefully Cleo is much less trouble.

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    khead says:

    Yes, welcome to the cult. Adorable kitteh.

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    Kristine says:

    Cute little mite. Looking forward to Cleo Stories.

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    MomSense says:

    Cleo, you clever girl. You picked the perfect family.

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    satby says:

    @MazeDancer: congratulations to you, geg6, and@NobodySpecial: on all the new additions! May you all enjoy many happy moments with your new companions. Thanks for rescuing them.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Yeah, we’ll get two. That’s the best number. Three is good too.

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    Chat Noir says:

    Yay! Welcome to the cat club! You will not regret it one iota. Cats are magic and make your life so full. Congrats and best wishes!

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    TomatoQueen says:

    Welcome in, all the new kittehs. Xmas gonna be nuts.

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    Neldob says:

    Queen of the Nile as a young cat gets only the best! Congrats

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    ThresherK says:

    Looks like a cutie. Are those banded or striped whiskers?

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    MazeDancer says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Three is good too.

    Nothing wrong with four, either.

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    Open thread, huh? I have finished outlining the final chapter of this book. I’ll start writing it tonight or tomorrow, and it’s not a big chapter, so I could easily be finished by tomorrow night. Working title is A Rag Doll’s Guide To Here And There, but I’ll want a final title that conveys both the adorableness and the murder.

    I’m anxious as Hell about when it’s done, because I have to get an agent and find a new publisher. I’m popular and established now, but it’s still a daunting life change. I can’t publish anything through my old publisher anymore, because they’re not paying me what they owe, which has gotten so bad I’ve abandoned belief that professional ethics require me to keep it private and any intention of ever publishing through them again.

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    @Frankensteinbeck: Congrats and best of luck in your search for what to do with this interesting sounding book.

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    @Dorothy A. Winsor:
    I have the sales record to get an agent and publisher’s attention, but this is a weird novel and I can’t do the popular Supervillain books anymore. My old publisher has rights to any of those I write. I’ll be starting something more marketable next (I think cyberpunk is long overdue for goofy MG fun) but that will be months until it’s written.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Screw professional ethics — it sounds like you need a lawyer, pronto, before the publisher declares bankruptcy. There’s been kind of an epidemic of small publishers folding lately.

    If I were you, I would do everything possible to wrestle the rights away from the publisher, even in lieu of cash. I know some authors whose book rights are still held by bankrupt publishers and they can’t republish or self-publish until the rights revert back to them as per the contract, even though the publisher went belly-up. So getting your rights from them should be job one, IMO.

    Note: I continue to not be a lawyer, so consult one before taking my advice!

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Also, if you think it will be a standalone book and not part of a series, seriously consider self-publishing it. I know quite a few romance writers who traditionally publish their series books and self-publish any standalones they come up with.

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: Seconding Mnem on this. Get your rights back, stat.

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    That is useful information. As soon as this book is finished and edited – a few days from now, tops – I am first contacting the SFWA, then a lawyer if they suggest I will need that supplementally. One of many sources of anxiety. I’ve put up with this long enough. This publisher isn’t folding through bad luck. They made a fantastically unwise – no, obviously blitheringly stupid – decision and torpedoed themselves financially. Oversimplified version: Bitcoin. As one of, possibly their most successful author, they’ve been stealing my money since to stay afloat.

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    @Frankensteinbeck: Oy. I’m with Mnem also too. I don’t know how much $ they owe you but they sound shady and possibly desperate. Get your rights back. (Also maybe don’t go too public with all of this- yet)

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    ellie says:

    Hello floof!

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    Ruckus says:

    I say this as an ex employer for almost 2 decades, wrote the checks for longer than that.
    Get legal assistance.
    If you earned the money, it’s yours, not theirs. They don’t get to play with it, burn it, pay hookers, buy bitcoin……
    They get to pay you.
    That is the sum total of what they get to do with your money.
    You want to lend it to them later, your business.
    You want to carry your check outside and burn it, your business.
    They don’t pay you, your business.

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    Suburban Mom says:

    Aww… what a sweet little baby. Congratulations to Geg6 and family, including the furry siblings.

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    Get legal assistance.

    I’m going to. I’m going to SFWA first because they provide legal assistance for exactly this kind of situation. I’ll only need to find out how much and if I need more.

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    JPL says:

    Cleo’s a sweetie!
    @MazeDancer: You did good!

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    @John Revolta: Frankensteinbeck has to protect himself but it’s a problem that writers can’t tell one another this stuff. At this very moment, there are undoubtedly writers submitting to his former publisher. I know someone who signed a multi-book contract with them. This writer was so excited and happy.

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    debit says:

    Her sweet little face!! Welcome, Cleo.

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    hitchhiker says:

    Random bit of 2nd hand information, but it’s from a very reliable source (who is closely related to someone on the Mueller team).

    Advice from that source is: Mueller’s got this. He prepared for the AG mess. And he’s also got a very nice present for the Congress, coming soon.

    I dunno … maybe for you guys it’s just more smoke and mirrors and nothing new, but to my frightened self it seems like good news.

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    @hitchhiker: Thank you, thank you, thank you! I choose to believe this.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @TaMara (HFG):

    :) thanks for trying again – what a cutie

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    @Dorothy A. Winsor:
    They are on Writer’s Beware now, and I sent Writer’s Beware an email saying that things are even worse than is currently listed.

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    geg6 says:


    Ooooo, my birthday is coming and maybe Mueller got me a present!

    As Cleo, she really is a sweetie. Very affectionate and curious. A champion climber. And a gold medalist in eating (she was skin and bones when we found her—she’s fattening up fast). Vet says no introductions to the pups yet. She has some stubborn fleas and not all the tests are back for anything else. Her right eye had some sort of infection that seems to be clearing up. The interesting thing is that the vet told us that, since she’s still a bit young for most of the heavy duty flea treatments, to wipe her down regularly with a damp cloth and Dawn dishwashing liquid. Something about it on their fur is a mild anti-flea agent. Is there nothing Dawn can’t do?

    Anyway, we are quickly becoming cat people because she’s so sweet. She sees me and flops on her back for belly scritches. How can you not fall in love with that?

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    Another Scott says:

    @hitchhiker: Don’t tease us like this!!


    Seriously, we’ll have to see what happens.

    We were refinancing our mortgage during the run-up to Bush’s Iraq War. Our mortgage banker said she was well plugged in to what the skuttle-butt was at the Pentagon. And maybe she was – she was a very popular lender in NoVA. But the actual invasion was ~ 6 months after she was convinced it was.

    The timeline may be out of Mueller’s hands, no matter how well he has prepared.

    I’m hopeful that he will present a compelling and (nearly) air-tight case. But I worry about the “sources and methods” buggabo of National Security cases. And I worry that the conspiracy is so broad (“This is how we know we’re a real family here.”) that Mueller might feel pressure to only go after the most egregious cases (“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”).

    We’ll see.


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    Schlemazel says:

    Donald Westlake ran into a similar thing in the middle of his Dortmunder series. He wrote a book that required all his characters to assume false names. At the time he said nothing of it but later he admitted if he had lost he would have written stories based on characters with the new names & winked at the old publisher. Now he was a wildly successful writer who had made millions for his house so the publisher folded. Not many have that power, not any more.

    Good luck & I hope you can beat the bastids

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    HumboldtBlue says:

    Hi, Cleo!

    Got a bit of good news earlier today, local neighborhood cat who came by pretty much every day for some wet food (I keep it solely for him and another neighbor cat, my boy, Salad only gets dry food) hadn’t been seen in more than a week. Heard scratching at my front door this morning and Bobby was back.

    Good to see him.

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    cain says:


    Welcome! Recently became the forever home of stray myself. Hopefully Cleo is much less trouble.

    Pics or it didn’t happen!

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    Gvg says:

    Random bit of pet owner advice, buy human food safe dishes to feed and water from. There are no standards for pet food dishes and cute decorative ones may not be food safe. Also pet food dishes made in China especially suspicious as some have already turned out to be unsafe. In addition avoid plastic dishes. Cats can get infected noses from plastic dishes used continuously, because the plastic eventually harbors bacteria even if washed. I like stainless steel mixing bowls for water and I use cheap paper plates for canned food and throw away after. People bowls can be cute and are reliably inspected.
    Kittens are sooo much fun.

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    Well, I’m pretty confident that if I can’t write any more Penny Akk books, no shortage of kids will leap gleefully onto Serenity Rose saving the world from Fry Smiley, Evil Megacorp UI Mascot.

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    Schlemazel says:

    Till it is announced we have nothing. I appreciate your news but nothing is nothing until the indictments start flowing.

    I don’t want to her junior is in fear for his freedom, I want to see him frog marched out

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    cain says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Yeah, we’ll get two. That’s the best number. Three is good too.

    I’m sure there will be some puppehs and kittehs who need home after that California fires. I’m going to bid my time a bit because I want to make sure if there are homeless pets that they get homes.

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    Yarrow says:

    @geg6: Awww…she sounds adorable! Can’t wait for your update when she meets the dogs. I’m thinking Lovey might be a tad jealous?

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    Schlemazel says:

    thank you for your kindness to this adorable floof

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    MazeDancer says:

    We’re writing PostCard for Mike Espy, people!

    Finally got hold of his campaign. They say they’re sending addresses.

    Will alert when it happens.

    Also, if anyone knows anyone in the John Barrow for Georgia Secretary of State campaign, please have them be in touch at

    He’s in a run-off for Secretary of State of Georgia. No more Brian Kemp insanity.

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    geg6 says:


    Got stainless bowls. Just like for my dogs but much smaller. They are easy to disinfect and don’t scratch as easily.

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    Schlemazel says:


    I wish I had the skill. I wrote short stories when I was in high school & my early 20s. They sucked. I can’t write dialog to save my life. I have what I think are good ideas but I can’t bring them to life. I feel like Solari in “Amadeus” I curse God for a lot of things.

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    J R in WV says:

    Congrats Geg6, on your new fluffy baby, so cute. And thanks for rescuing her.


    Good luck with your crazed publisher. It seems to me that the whole publishing industry is out of control with regard to taking care of the authors, which are the goose that laid the golden eggs! Without writers, publishing would be those magazines about how to get rich.

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    geg6 says:


    Yes, that is my fear. Lovey will have an adjustment for sure. Koda will be cool, like she is about everything.

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    Jane2 says:

    @geg6: Adorable! She’ll soon have those dogs in line.

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    Yarrow says:

    @geg6: Hopefully Lovey will fall in love with her. Maybe she’ll take a mama role and be all protective.

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    @J R in WV: The oddest thing I’ve seen lately re writers is Trevor Noah interviewing an actress from The Hate U Give and asking her to tell “her” story. Angie Thomas wrote The Hate U Give. It’s been a big book for over a year. It’s HER story. She provided it for that actress.

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    Schlemazel says:

    Question for the hive mind.

    We have had several cats, all of them hate to travel. They screech & howl in the car and act like we are torturing them. The cat I never wanted is now 17-18 and in fine health but I am thinking of the future. IF I get to retire we plan on driving around the country a bit. I would love to have a cat that would be happy to go with us. (in the event I never retire I have enough vacation time we will travel anyway).

    Is this hatred of car travel universal? Is it possible to identify cats that are not horrified by cars? Possible to raise them to enjoy it? I will not leave a cat for weeks on end but I also don’t want a catless life

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    Another Scott says:

    @geg6: :-) Excellent. I’m very happy you found her and are able to keep her. Wishing you many, many good years together!


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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @geg6: How come no kitties are sneaking into my garage? Congrats on finding a new fur buddy to love. Cleo is a cutie pie.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @hitchhiker: @Dorothy A. Winsor: Thank you, thank you, thank you! I choose to believe this.

    Me too!

    @Another Scott: The timeline may be out of Mueller’s hands, no matter how well he has prepared.

    He needs time to make copies for the AsG of New York and New Jersey. Maybe IL, CA and NV too

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    @Schlemazel: I had a cat who was willing to go on car trips. He traveled to a number of national parks and other places. You have to train them to harnesses and leashes and then take them in the car a lot. TBH, I don’t recall how I trained him to the car, but I know there was a harness and leash. He was an unusually good-natured applehead Siamese, almost like a dog in behavior.

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    hitchhiker says:


    Most of the time I’m right there with you & almost didn’t post this b/c really, what does it add?

    And yet, this is from someone who works in Mueller’s office & is part of the investigation. Also has been very, very carefully sharing tiny notices like this for the last year, all of which have been accurate. So, to me it’s a ittle more than nothing.

    That said, I wanted to see indictments yesterday. Ben Wittes has a new piece up in The Atlantic that I also find hopeful … but DAMN I’m sick of reading tea leaves.

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    Jay says:


    A lot of cats hate being kenneled in a car. Covering the travel crate helps, better is getting them trained to leashes and car rides.

    At distance cat’s see motion more than objects, a fast moving vehicle is often unsettling because of the rapid motion of objects that at home, out the windows, are stationary and always in the same place every day.

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    @Dorothy A. Winsor: This is a good point. I was thinking that he might complicate matters legally by talking about the publisher’s shady practices………….IANAL though.

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    satby says:

    @cain: they’re already begging for foster homes and adopters from the fires, the shelters are already full and more displaced animals come in every day. If you can foster or adopt, now is a time that will really help, because every single animal moved into a new home, even a temporary one, makes room for another to be saved.

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    SectionH says:

    Congrats to geg6 on being adopted by such a sweet baby – and to TaMara, MazeDancer, NobodySpecial, and probably some other Juicers who have new cats (and pups?). Goodness, is it the phase of the moon, or what? Cause we have a new kitteh too, completely unplanned for.

    It’s a long story, but briefly: we lost our last 2 kitties fairly recently: my darling Ziri last December (rescue girl we’d adopted at 13 years old in 2013) and sweet little Layna, who was 19, in July. We’d had Layna since she was 6 months old. This was the first time in 30+ years we hadn’t had one or more cats. But we hadn’t been planning on looking for another cat until the house we still own in Lexington, KY is sold. And our rule for the last several years has been only to adopt ~10 yro or older cats. Right… well, sometimes life ignores one’s plans.

    We spent election night in Las Cruces on our way back to San Diego from Lex. I’d hoped to spend at least from Nov 2nd through the 6th doing GOTV for Amy McGrath (KY-06), but that didn’t happen. So dinner Tuesday night was definitely fraught, with bad news from Lex hitting as soon as we sat down, then bad news about Beto… ).

    But when we got back to our hotel, just before the front entry was this ginger kitty meowing piteously in that “desperate kitten” tone. He wanted help, but he was also afraid to let us get too near. Luckily, we had chicken left over from dinner, so got him to come much closer that way. Long story short, the hotel staff knew about him, had been feeding him, and had even called “Animal Control” which luckily had been unable to catch him. But the front desk clerk had been able to pet him a few times, and she managed to pick him up and get him inside. She stashed him in the hotel’s back office while we went off to Evil Mart (because it was sort of nearby, and it was 10pm in a strange town) to buy a cat carrier, catfood, litter, box etc. Kitteh spent the night in the hotel room with us – he actually settled next to me on the bed for most of the night. The next day we toughed it out to get back to SD (~700 miles – we’d planned to take it easy and stop in Tucson area) so he wouldn’t have to spent another night in another strange hotel room.

    He’s pretty much full-grown (a big boy) but we’ll let the Vet give us her best guesstimate of his age when she sees him Monday. He seems in really good shape for a kitty who’s been living rough. I guess him getting food & water from the hotel was a big help, but he still chows down like he’s desperately hungry. He’d been listed as a “found” cat for over a month (call hotel # for more info) but no one had responded.

    I’m still a bit piskey-mazed at the moment, but we were clearly in just the right place at the right time for this boy.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Schlemazel: Don’t forget to check with WereBear either here when she posts or over at Way of Cats. She might have something already on her website about it or you could ask her.

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    Mary Ellen Sandahl says:

    Geg6, you have been chosen! I haven’t been all thru the thread so don’t know if I’m repeating someone else, but I think it’s possible that little Cleo may have a sort of eye infection that’s pretty common in kittens. Her right eye looks like the lids are partly swollen, and the fur next to it look like it could be slightly matted with discharge. A vet visit is in order to check it out; it’s an easy thing to treat, but if left alone it can cause blindness.
    She’s a wonderful looking little girl.

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    Schlemazel says:

    didn’t know that. Thanks!

    Thanks to all answers

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    @SectionH: That is a wonderful story!!

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    Yutsano says:

    KITTEH!!! I love the name Cleo. I am so melting on getting another fur kid but I don’t have the money for the deposit yet. And probably won’t until after the holidays.

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    satby says:

    @Schlemazel: @Cheryl Rofer: the big thing to be concerned about is even cats who travel well can bolt from a car. Harness, leash on at all times, no exceptions, or tragedy can result.
    I’ve transported 100s of cats over the years, always in carriers. Sooner or later even the yowlers settle down, but it may take a couple of hours. Crate training a cat to settle in and sleep is possible too.
    Honestly, animals like routine, and travel is usually rough on them. Especially older ones. I understand the impulse, but I would just get a pet sitter, or board them.

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    satby says:

    @SectionH: Beautiful story! You guys rock!

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    Schlemazel says:

    that is what I am afraid of. Not going to leave the cat for weeks even with a sitter. I don’t think that is fair to the cat either.

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    geg6 says:

    @Mary Ellen Sandahl:

    Yes, we’ve seen the vet once and he gave us drops. For awhile, we were not even sure if she had an eye, it was swollen shut and leaking a lot of discharge. It’s much better than it was. We go back to the vet’s next week to go over all the tests, get some shots, check on the flea situation and get it set up to get her fixed. Getting pricey, but she’s our baby now. And we want to get the introduction to the dogs going as soon as possible. That should be interesting.

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    J R in WV says:

    OK, I’m going to tell a story of our last cat adoption. We took two youngsters from our vet clinic, which runs a darknet adoption service, no kitty or puppy goes without a home.

    That same week, wife was walking to the neighbor’s and heard a frantic mewing from a culvert. There was a tiny kitten trapped in brambles in a culvert. So she rescued it. Three new kitties to go with two older cats for a total of five. Dogs too, but not important for this story.

    Of the two from the vet clinic, one was a little girl and one was a little tom. both the same size and age but not blood siblings. They got along well. The third from our local culvert was about 8 inches long, we thought 8 or 10 weeks… nope, 6 months old needed spayed right now!

    She’s still around, gained so much weight we named her Punkin for her spherical shape.

    But the other little girl is who I’m really writing about. She was really prickly, sharp little claws, so we named her Spike. Spike was very quiet, didn’t ever even purr. But I spent a lot of my off time online (as you know) and was still as I worked online for my job. She started to climb up onto my shoulder, and hold on tight. Against my right cheek and ear.

    I would talk to her, and pet her, scritching her head. I called her a sweet kitty, and scritched and stroked. One day I heard, more like felt really, a tiny little purr against my face. Over time she finally began to purr, and now she even talks, insistently. It took 3 years, but eventually she became as verbal as any other cat. Purring on my hip late at night, on my shoulder as I comment here. Still really prickly, not because she’s afraid, just because she’s a cat.

    Take care, cat supporters everywhere! The kitties need you!!!

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    SectionH says:

    @TaMara (HFG): @satby: Thanks, I’m sure you both would do the same thing if you came across a cat in similar circs. We have in fact not been able to rescue a couple of cats in the past when we were on the road. One again hanging out in a hotel parking lot, and one at a rest area in Ohio somewhere. We were not gonna leave this one behind.

    @Schlemazel: Yeah, some cats can get pretty cool with car trips. Our Pickles, who was a tiny but fearless and totally was Queen of our clowder of 5 for many years, hated to go in a carrier, and would invariably poop as soon as she was in the car, got very used to the car trips to my Mother’s or our friend’s house when we were travelling so much, and was happy to ride as long as she wasn’t in a carrier. She did have a harness/leash on, but I always felt guilty because she’d have been much safer in a carrier in the event of an accident or even serious slamming of brakes. But it was so much easier to not have to stop and clean up cat poop!

    I wonder if maybe you could consider a dog instead. They’re much happier travellers as a rule. When we only had a couple of cats, we used to take them to Mom’s or friend’s place. At 5, we were lucky enough that our friend would visit them every other day or so – and they mostly got on with each other well enough they were ok. But they still did miss us, I know. I’d hate to leave one kitty alone too often.

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    WereBear says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: Damn, that sucks. Good luck.

    Geg6: congratulations. Looks like the kitty will have everyone trained in a matter of weeks.

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    SectionH says:

    Oops, gotta head out for more litter and cat food. See ya later.

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    debbie says:


    FWIW, Dawn also kills stinkbugs. Mixed with water, it removes the waxy coating from the stinkbug’s body which is apparently fatal. I have a spray bottle at hand at all times.

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    imonlylurking says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: If there is a way to buy an ebook that gets you more $$, please let me know. (Any chance of a sequel to ‘Quite Contrary’? Cuz that book is awesome.)

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    satby says:

    @debbie: I have 90% rubbing alcohol I use to spritz soap molds and disinfect things, and it’s the best bug killer I have. Immediate knock down on flies. Easier to wipe up too.

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    There is no way to buy an ebook that gets me more $$ right now, and potentially there is no way to buy an ebook that gets me any $$ whatsoever right now, since my publisher isn’t handing over my royalties. I don’t care, and don’t let that stop you. I would rather you read and enjoy than hold back over whether I get two bucks. There is unlikely to be a sequel to Quite Contrary, I feel sorry for anyone who really loves Mary (especially me!), but if you liked it you’ll probably also dig A Rag Doll’s Guide To Here And There. I suggest watching my blog over the next week or two for when I ask for beta readers. I’m writing the last chapter as we type, so that ain’t gonna be long.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Random thought, but I would bet that a cat would do pretty well with RV or camper travel, because only the outside view would change — the interior would stay the same and remain their territory. It would be like being a ship’s cat. 🤔

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    Mnemosyne says:


    For your title problem, the first one that springs to mind is “A Rag Doll’s Guide to Murder and Mayhem.”

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    imonlylurking says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: I mentioned it because Diane Duane has her books available through the traditional channels but also has her own ebookstore, including directions to load into Kindle. It’s not a bad idea if you can get your rights back.

    I will keep an eye on your website. I have class for another six weeks then I’m free until January.

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    “A Rag Doll’s Guide To Enchantment And Murder.” I LIKE IT.

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    Skepticat says:

    @Schlemazel: It’s not universal. I travel between countries twice a year and always take my cats (of course), and perhaps I’ve been incredibly lucky, but they all travel well. (Over the years, I’ve had three sets of cats, ranging from one to three at a time). Getting them into their carriers can be a challenge, but once in the car, they’re fine. They tend to be vocal in the plane (private, not commercial), probably because the noise bothers their ears. Some of them have been prone to motion sickness, but the latest crew (all born feral) are old hands and fairly blase. Perhaps they realize they don’t really have a choice.

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    Gvg says:

    The only cat I have had that liked car travel was a purebred show cat. She was a return to breeder, about a year old when I got her. It was lucky for me, she was my college cat, and easy to visit parents with a cat who liked cars.
    A breeder may be able to tell you how to raise a car cat. Or they might be looking for a retirement home for one. I suppose any rescue organization might be able to keep an eye out for one.

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