Late-Night Pundtwit Open Thread: But If Political Scientists Get to Use the (Other) N-Word…

Trump and his hardcore base are making it very difficult for the Maestros of Bothsiderism to blanket the Repubs’ hate speech in a warm fuzzy cloud of pap, but give Ross Doubthat and his fellow Very Serious Opinioneers full marks for trying!

Ari Fleischer, once again a shonda fur die goyim:

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    Mike in DC says:

    Nationalist doesn’t mean fascist. Here, it means white supremacist fascist.

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    opiejeanne says:

    Matt Welch? Matt fucking Welch?

    I think I need sleep.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Mike in DC: That’s not improving my mood.

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    hervevillechaise says:

    It makes me psychotic that the media never mentions Shelly Adelson in the Soros discussion.

    Yes, democratic candidates get donations from a billionaire Jewish philanthropist but rape-publicans have their own rootless cosmopolitan billionaire and he’s donating about five times as much money as Soros.

    Why is our Jewish philanthropist an issue but their Jewish philanthropist isn’t?

    Finally we’ve found it—a topic the media won’t attempt to both-sides.

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    NotMax says:


    Kanye West designs anti-Democrat ‘Blexit’ merchandise Source

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    NotMax says:

    FYI (emphasis added).

    Rep. Mike Doyle, a Democrat representing the Pittsburgh area, said FBI Special Agent in Charge Bob Jones told elected leaders Saturday evening that Bowers possessed 21 firearms. The tally included the semi-automatic assault-style rifle and three handguns found in the synagogue, as well as a shotgun that Doyle said authorities recovered from Bowers’s vehicle. Other weapons were found in his apartment. Source

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    opiejeanne says:

    Did anyone else hear about some RW pundit squawking about the caravan being full of sick people, some with…

    dun dun DUN!


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    Mandalay says:

    Julian asks for your thoughts and prayers at this difficult time. He would like you all to focus on what really matters: Julian….

    A judge in Ecuador has ruled against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, rejecting his request to loosen new requirements that he says are meant to push him into leaving his asylum in the country’s embassy in London.

    The judge, Karina Martínez, found that stricter rules recently imposed by the South American nation’s embassy – such as requiring Assange to pay for his internet and clean up after his cat – do not violate his asylum rights because authorities have the right to decide what is and isn’t allowed inside the building.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @NotMax: Was he the shooter who wasn’t supposed to have guns? Or was it the racist idiot in Kentucky who murdered those two people at the grocery store?

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I don’t think being off his bipolar meds quite explains this Kanye West guy.

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    NotMax says:


    Regarding the Kentucky crimes – gee, ya think?

    A police chief has acknowledged that the killings of two black people at a Kroger grocery store were racially motivated, days after the FBI announced that it is investigating the shootings as a potential federal hate crime.

    The Courier Journal reports Jeffersontown Police Chief Sam Rogers told the congregation at First Baptist Church on Sunday that racism is “the elephant in the room” of this case. Source

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    opiejeanne says:

    @NotMax: Took him long enough. Sometimes I wonder why the hesitation. Do they just really hate that extra charge, hate the law that created it? What could ever be the motive?

    *massive eyeball*

    Oh, now one eye is stuck. Dang!

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    ericblair says:


    Did anyone else hear about some RW pundit squawking about the caravan being full of sick people, some with…

    dun dun DUN!


    If there was one type of people Jesus would never have helped, it was lepers.

    Great job, evangelicals!

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    NotMax says:


    It is estimated some 95% of people have a natural immunity to the bacteria which can develop into Hansen’s disease. Bacteria, BTW, frequently carried by the armadillos prevalent throughout the southern U.S.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @opiejeanne: Of course, every good Xristian knows (or can be told by their preachers) the rules the Old Testament put in place for the treatment of Lepers so it’s a special scary disease with divine authority to shun and reject its sufferers.

    The fact that, as someone pointed out on a thread last night, it’s not actually very contagious and easily treatable these days is irrelevant to that Biblical condemnation. As for Jesus, well he’s the bosses son so naturally he’s not bound by Daddy’s rules!

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    Christ, what assholes.

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    pat says:

    Open thread,
    We rented a car to drive from the airport in Vienna to Graz, where we returned the car the next day.
    When we picked it up we were told to inspect it, took a quick look in the park garage, didn’t notice anything (not really knowing what to look for, actually.)
    When we returned it there was a tiny scratch, about an inch long and less than a quarter inch wide, on top of the rear bumper, in front of the luggage compartment. We have no recollection of causing this scratch.
    We had only the basic insurance (big mistake?) and now Hertz is charging us 415 euros (close to $500) to repair this tiny blemish.

    What can we do? It will go on my credit card at the end of this week.
    Thanks for any help or sympathy!

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    What can we do?

    Get some vaseline and bend over. Sorry, sucks to be you.

    How well lit was the garage? If it was dim you might try challenging on that basis.

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    Ukko says:

    I am sitting up with my dearest Newfie who we will have to euthanize tomorrow morning. I had hopes to get him through the winter to see another spring but a came home to bloody diarrhea all over the downstairs. He is on three different pain killers for a failing hips and I think that his gut just can’t take it.

    He refused his dinner and any way I dressed up his meds. So I know he is in pain tonight. But at least they won’t be tearing at his belly.

    I will be at the vet when they open at 7, I hope the can do this on a walk-in basis. We had talked about doing this two weeks ago when he stopped using the stairs. But I hoped that I could make things work. He worked with me all weekend on a replacement ramp for the stairs up to the deck. I have the posts set, and was going to get the decking finished by next weekend. I just wish that we could have gotten him back up stairs where he really wanted to be.

    I still remember the breeder telling us that living with a 140 lb dog is like living with a person, who leaves person sized shits in the yard. It is also true that they age like a person, if they can’t get up the stairs on their own there is no way you can get them there short of two nurses and a stretcher.

    I really am not taking this well. I have had other dogs and lost other dogs but this one is so dear to me I cannot begin to express it.

    Baloo came into my life right before I got laid off and I was able to spend the first 18 months of his life with him every day. Toward the end of that time we also went through our other dog developing pancreatic cancer. My vet was so wonderful since he knew we were just getting by on unemployment and my wife’s pay. There were lots of $400 visits that rang up as $65 “tech checks”. Best vet ever.

    I don’t want to ramble on too much. I just want to say that this dog and I have seen some shit, and he has always been so sweet and so loving. I really wish I could do better by him. But big old bodies break. And I don’t know how to mend them.

    What I can do is sit here on the floor while he gently rests against my leg. Hopefully he can get a couple hours of rest yet tonight. Such a small kindness is all that we have left at this wee hour.

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    pat says:


    I am composing an email that mentions “less than ideal lighting.”

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    Mary G says:

    @Ukko: I am so sorry. He loves you and is happy to be by your side. It is so hard to wait through the small hours.

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    pat says:


    That is so sad. Brings tears to my eyes and makes me remember having to say goodbye to our Susy cat.

    Can the vet make a house call in the morning so you don’t have to try to transport Baloo?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    What I can do is sit here on the floor while he gently rests against my leg.

    I did the same for my Hoss. It’s heartbreaking.

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    Mai Naem mobile says:

    @Ukko: I am sorry to hear about your dog. He sounds like that ‘special’ dog most dog people have had in their lives. Think of the happy memories you had with him.

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    Mai Naem mobile says:

    @pat: have you googled this? There may be some travel site with ideas on this issue. This is the reason I always get the stupid rip off rental car company insurance. My insurance person always tells me it’s a rip off and not to get it.

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    Ukko says:

    Thanks. He is a special dog and he loves going places in the car, he will be up for the trip. He is good that way. But I am just sorry he has to go through this. There is no dignity in the ways death comes for us.

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    Mike R says:

    @Ukko: so sorry to hear, terrible to lose our beloved pets.

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    Aleta says:

    @Ukko: I’m so sorry. I hope your touch and presence has lessened the pain signals for him during the night. I believe it works that way. Glad he can lean on you now. They’re so constant in taking some of our weight whenever we need. (We had possible bad news yesterday about our wonderful irreplaceable dog. My sympathy is going out to you. )

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    Aleta says:

    @Ukko: We asked our vet to come out to the car so our previous dog could stay in the other place that felt like home to him. Fortunately he was able to do that.

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    Ken Shabby says:


    What I can do is sit here on the floor while he gently rests against my leg. Hopefully he can get a couple hours of rest yet tonight. Such a small kindness is all that we have left at this wee hour.

    This is one of the best things I’ve ever read. We are doing similar at our home, not quite as far down the road but def looking your way. They know it, too. They know you’re caring for them and it’s a great comfort for them. Connection and communion til the end. My heart goes out to you. And, him. This is our third dog. And, survives my son. It’s his dog. Have a lot of admiration for you,

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    Odie Hugh Manatee says:


    Best wishes to Baloo and yourself. As a pet owner who has been through this and knows the pain, you both have my condolences. Peace.

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    Ken says:


    Bacteria, BTW, frequently carried by the armadillos prevalent throughout the southern U.S.

    And spreading north. Thanks again, global warming!

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    Mandarama says:

    @Ukko: Oh, bless you and Baloo! It’s so hard to say goodbye to the dog of your heart. Wishing you every happy memory.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Ukko: Tears are streaming down my face as I read this, and it’s now 8:15 my time, so you have surely been to vet and have already said goodbye. My heart breaks for you. Losing any beloved pet is beyond hard; losing your doggie or kitty soulmate is just devastating.

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    worn says:

    @pat: How did you pay for the it? Many credit cards offer supplemental liability insurance for rental cars (if you use the card for the rental). I’ve used mine more than once – it really saved my bacon when I backed a car hard into a bollard. That error resulted in a couple thousand dollars in damage.

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    Ukko says:

    Just by way of update, we let Baloo go about 8:30 this morning. We had to wait for the vet to get into the office, the vet techs and the rest of the staff took wonderful care of us all until then.

    Baloo had so many friends and admirers at that office, they were visibly sad as well. Such a gentle soul. He touched so many people I never even knew about. Now on to figuring how navigate the gaping hole in our lives.

    Thanks for all your support, it helps and I appreciate it.

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    J R in WV says:


    Thanks for the update, so glad they are a compassionate bunch, most vets are vets because they love animals. It’s so hard to type when you can’t see what you’re doing.

    We’ve all the pet lovers been there before. Thank you for taking such good care of your good dog! He knew you loved him and were doing all you could for him.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @pat: Same thing happened to us in England, and we BOUGHT the ripoff insurance but they charged us the equivalent of $600. It was one of the big three American rental companies but I can’t remember which. They said the insurance we bought didn’t cover the scratches on the wheel covers for some weird reason, and we should have gotten the other ripoff policy they offered. That’s the only time we’ve ever bought the insurance.
    Anyway, when we got home the charge had disappeared from our credit card. I don’t know why and when I called the card company they said they had no record of the amount being charged to the card.

    @Ukko: @Ukko: I’m so sorry to hear this. You did the right thing, but it is so very hard to lose them.

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    catatonia says:

    I had to go through the “just one more night” with my beloved Stella this past April. It’s hard as hell, and I’m so sorry.

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