Stacey Abrams vs. the Revanchist Racist

… “I have a hard time imagining this is anything but an intentional effort,” said Mr. Laven, who teaches political science at Kennesaw State University. “I can’t imagine this is just pure incompetence. Everyone knew how serious people have been around here about getting out the vote.”…

Georgia ranks 43rd out of 50 in election integrity, according to one of Mr. Shufeldt’s measures, which grades things like state election administration and expert opinion surveys.

That ranking is emblematic of almost a decade of fights between election rights groups and Mr. Kemp. Questions have long swirled around Mr. Kemp’s office about issues including voter data security and whether Georgia’s voting machines were fit for modern elections…

From The Root, “Neither Voter Suppression Nor Being Called ‘Coon’ and the N-Word Will Stop Black Georgia From Voting”:

Waynesboro, Georgia—Sarah Jenkins has long had to deal with simmering community tensions. She owns a small business in a white part of town that caters to senior citizens and people with mental disabilities, an arrangement many of her neighbors frown upon.

But since “Ms. Jenkins,” as folks like to call her, became a big supporter of Stacey Abrams—who is trying to become the first black woman to become governor anywhere in the nation—those tensions have boiled over. They’ve grown especially ugly since Abrams won the Democratic nomination in her quest to lead Georgia.

The Abrams campaign signs Jenkins placed on her lawn were frequently stolen; she would replace them. But then came the one-word, handwritten messages on white pieces of paper that started showing up in her mailbox.

“Coon,” some of them said…

Still, Jenkins was among the throng of Abrams supporters, maybe a hundred or so, who gathered to listen to the gubernatorial candidate deliver her stump speech in a church parking lot in Waynesboro, Ga., on Wednesday afternoon.

It will be choices such as the one Jenkins is making—remaining steadfast in the face of intimidation in a state where charges of voter suppression have increased the past few weeks—that will likely decide what polling data says is a close race between Abrams and her Republican challenger, Brian Kemp.

Georgia made national headlines recently after the Associated Press found that 70 percent of the voter registration applications being held up by Kemp, who is also Georgia’s secretary of state, are African American. (Georgia is 32 percent black.)

Like the tension in Jenkins’s neighborhood, Kemp’s dual role as Abrams’ opponent, as well as the man in charge of voter registration, has become a prominent feature of this election cycle. Kemp has justified his decision to hold up so many applications because of the “exact match” policy that can invalidate an application if something as simple as a hyphen on a last name of a license is missing on the form. Most civil rights groups consider it a voter suppression tactic. While those whose applications are among the 53,000 can still show up to vote with the proper identification, many black Georgians see this as a 1960s-era attempt to scare them away from the polls.

“I come from the generation where we had to march to be able to vote,” Evelyn Ellis, 72, of Augusta, said after Abrams spoke. “I’m the last of that generation who can tell that story. It was a terrible thing my generation had to go through. For there to be any kind of suppression is just awful. So I am hoping and praying that even though that effort is out there that we will still be able to overcome it.”…

Goal Thermometer

If any member of the GOP had even the tattered vestiges of decency left, they’d be publicly shunning Kemp just for his clumsiness. But in Trump’s America, being a Repub means never having to apologize for being shamelessly racist.

110 replies
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    Baud says:

    Our country has changed, and while any racial discrimination in voting is too much, Congress must ensure that the legislation it passes to remedy that problem speaks to current conditions.

    The way things are going, the Dems will have to expand the Voting Rights Act to cover every red state.

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    GregB says:

    My contempt for John Strikes and Balls Roberts is unending.

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    Walker says:

    Justice Roberts legacy will be forever tied to Shelby and history books will mention him right along side Taney.

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    gene108 says:


    They need to expand it cover every state. Even supposedly Democratic states can wind up with a Republican governor or Sec of State, such as MD, MA, NJ, IL, etc

    The common denominator of election fuckery is Republicans. Geography doesn’t matter as much.

    Also, too, if any other country engaged in the shit Republicans pull, there would be calls to consider the results of a Republican win as illegitimate, and to have new free and fair elections, with international observers present.

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    Jeffro says:

    @GregB: who could have foreseen this, though?

    Oh that’s right…every American with half a brain, or the slightest sense of our history.

    Kemp will claim fraud* if he is defeated. We have to help GA Dems win a big victory Nov 6!!

    (*Trumpov is going to do this Nov 7 no matter what happens…not just in GA, either. Take care of yourselves, peeps, we are still going to be fighting hard to save this country past Election Day)

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    gene108 says:


    Only if we can maintain control of government long enough for that view to take hold. If Republicans keep control of government, at any level, they will demand text books put Shelby be up there with Brown as ending a cruel system of government discrimination against certain states. Hell, if Republicans get enough power, they will probably push to over turn Brown v Board of Education, because it trampled states rights.

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    HAL says:

    Even of Kemp was the most trustworthy man in America, there is an inherent conflict of interest in overseeing an election when you’re also a candidate. That this is happening in plain sight is incredibly disturbing.

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    Isn’t Kobach in KS, running for gov, also overseeing the election? And Hawley in MO, running against MacCaskill, also overseeing the election?

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    Walker says:


    Demographics will take care of this in the long run. Maybe after we are dead. But it will happen.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Fat Bastard will be making an appearance or three in Georgia in the next couple of weeks to campaign for shitbird Kemp (he has nothing else to do all day that doesn’t involve golf), and Pence and Kobach are sure to follow in their unending effort to Make America White Again.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @HAL: @Ladyraxterinok: Conflicts of interest do not apply to Republicans. Just ask their media lapdogs.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Ladyraxterinok: Hawley is the Attorney General.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    How was Brian Kemp allowed to be both player and referee in this contest? Is there nothing in Georgia’s election laws to prevent it?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Mike in NC: In Hawleys case, he has recused himself from the investigation of Project Veritas infiltration of McCaskill’s campaign. The state GOP also pushed Grietens out of the governorship. Not sure how or why but Misery GOPs seem to have retained some level of shame in the age of trump. Kinda hard to believe.

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    satby says:

    @Baud: every state!
    Or what @gene108: said.

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    AliceBlue says:

    Mr. AliceBlue and I live in west central Georgia, and we voted early last Thursday. One of the elections officials there said that they had had 500 voters over four days. For a rural county like ours, that’s a big deal. We ended up having to wait about 15 minutes to vote, which was unusual.

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    Immanentize says:

    “Coon?” Really? Is that a thing? If so, I am starting to call police “Pigs” again.

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    Humdog says:

    @GregB: Hey, Roberts only promised to call balls and strikes, not fouls.
    R’s voter restrictions are foul, indeed.

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    satby says:

    I heard the RWNJ next to me at the market yesterday ask some of his equally elderly wypipo friends how things were looking for November and “did they think we can hang on?” . Then he lowered his voice because he knows I’m a liberal. But the gist of it is that those old Fox nutters will crawl over broken glass to vote so our side has to blow them away. I think we can, hope we will.

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    JPL says:

    @AliceBlue: Kemp has spent a lot of time trying to turn out the rural vote. hmmm
    I haven’t voted yet, but plan on voting early.

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    gene108 says:


    Demographics will take care of this in the long run. Maybe after we are dead. But it will happen.

    As long as Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, and even places like Kentucky and West Virginia are overwhelmingly white, the demographics won’t matter.

    We will see already liberal states get more liberal, and maybe a change in places like NC going from swing state to lean D, but there will be enough concentrations of reactionary whites throughout the country to balance out the places where demographics are making places more liberal.

    Basically, this demographic wave will not be enough to save us. It won’t happen uniformly enough to save us.

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    debbie says:

    No internet last night, so I’m behind. How many zillions of jobs is Trump now saying are at risk if we cancel that arms deal with Saudi Arabia? Yesterday, it increased from 400,000 to “millions” in just half a day.

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    tybee says:

    @AliceBlue: which county? i spent a lot of years in muscogee and often visit friends in talbot and harris county.

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    gene108 says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    How was Brian Kemp allowed to be both player and referee in this contest? Is there nothing in Georgia’s election laws to prevent it?

    In 1789, when the current Constitution was adopted, America was on the cutting edge of giving people the right to vote.

    But in the last 200+ years, the rest of the world had passed us by, and we cling to outdated systems, because it serves some political interests to keep the outdated status quo.

    Tl;dr Yes it is legal.

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    AliceBlue says:

    @JPL: This is also a slightly majority black county so I took that as a good sign.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Link to a really good radio program I heard parts of yesterday. American Public Media distributed it. Program is Reveal from the Center for Investigative Journalism.

    Who gets to Vote?

    About what’s going on in Georgia, and shame be upon Brian Kemp and the obstructionists.

    You’ll get to hear Kemp’s good ol’ boy voice bragging, early on, that some people are calling him ” the Secretary of Suppression.” That they don’t like his work to “keep the voting rolls clean.” (I think we know what “clean” is a synonym for.)

    He is auditioning for a part in “In the Heat of the Night.” Also, I cannot believe that someone who is saying this kind of stuff, in public, is allowed to remain Secretary of State while he’s the major candidate for state office too.

    52 minutes, really well done.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    Georgia ranks 43rd out of 50 in election integrity,

    There are 7 states worse than this. Le Sigh.

    This is why we need the state houses back, people. I think Democrats have finally learned that lesson in most states.

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    Elizabelle says:

    In addition to postcards to voters, how about some letters or even postcards to John Roberts on his role in making U.S. elections less fair? He umpired Georgia (and other states) back into this mess.

    Walker is right. History is going to judge him on that. Mr. Roger B. Taney, right there.

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    JPL says:

    @AliceBlue: Thanks. The area that I live in has surprisingly few signs. As we all know that signs can’t vote, but I haven’t seen one sign for McBath. There are a few Stacey signs though.

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    SFAW says:

    Well, I console myself in knowing that, any minute now, the Department of Justice will have a little chat with Kemp, pointing out that his actions are violating the 14th Amendment.

    Any minute now …

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Elizabelle: Forgive me, it’s the Center for Investigative Reporting (not Journalism). Gonna check out more of their work.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    If Stacey Abrams does eke out a win, I fully expect Kemp to shut down the idea of any kind of investigation, because he knows an investigation would make him look even worse and uncover his own malfeasance. This is do or die for him.

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    tybee says:

    @AliceBlue: beautiful area. i love canoeing the flint river as it cuts through those granite ridges between pike/upson counties and meriwether county. we would launch at hiway 74 and exit at sprewell’s bluff. reminds one of the rivers in north georgia.

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    MomSense says:


    Reveal is one of my favorite podcasts. They do actual in depth investigative reporting.

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    MomSense says:


    They did an amazing profile of work conditions at Leon Umsk’s factory.

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    germy says:

    Who are the seven states worse than Georgia? I will guess they are in the former confederacy?

    OT, but saw this today:

    China is launching an artificial moon into the sky. Made from a satellite coated in reflective material, the moon will glow in the night, illuminating the streets and cutting down on electricity used by street lights, Chinese state media reports. If all goes according to plan, the first moon will launch above the city of Chengdu in the Sichuan province in 2020. More moons will follow.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @MomSense: Not surprising you’re ahead of me on that one.

    Didn’t hear the whole broadcast, but it was very well done. (Darn having to pop in and out of the car; lucky to have heard parts at all.)

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    debbie says:


    My local NPR station runs them every Sunday afternoon. Pretty exceptional, in-depth reporting — for a change.

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    germy says:

    I don’t understand these polls.

    I don’t answer my phone if I don’t recognize the number. Too much spam, telemarketers and outright fraud.

    Who talks to pollsters?

    My wish is that this Georgia election isn’t as close as they’re saying. My wish is that she sweeps the floor with Kemp.

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    hilts says:


    It’s a great organization, thanks for linking to it and the radio program as well!

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    zhena gogolia says:

    With half an eye I saw a WaPo headline about how POTUS’s approval rating has gone up because of Kavanaugh, so Dems have much less of a chance of getting even the House. IS THIS TRUE? How could Kavanaugh have made his approval rating go UP????? I am in despair.

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    AliceBlue says:

    @tybee: Sprewell’s Bluff is truly breathtaking. One of the most beautiful areas in the state IMO.

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    Mai Naem mobile says:

    Just remember this shit is okay with John Roberts. I want John Roberts,Bret Kavanaugh,Sam Alito, Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas to sit in line for 3 hours waiting to vote. Forget security. Forget absentee voting. They need to stand in line.i stood in line for 1.75 hrs for the primary but I at least had the time and was healthy enough to stand for that long.

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    Mainmata says:

    @gene108: This is absolutely correct. As soon as (if), the Democrats achieve unified government, the first priority – even higher than healthcare must be comprehensive electoral reform, starting with a robust VRA for all states. Every other issue depends upon assuring tthe integrity of the vote.

    If Stacey Abrams narrowly loses, she should refuse to concede until the hundreds of thousands of provisional ballots arre counted by an independent bipartisan commission.

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    My comments with links are going straight into moderation.

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    trollhattan says:

    Another witch hunt! This one by actual witches.

    The occult turned partisan on Saturday as a coven of New York witches placed a hex on US Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Dozens attended the event at Brooklyn’s Catland Books, which was also streamed online. Organisers said the event was “an act of resistance and resilience”.

    A Catholic priest and exorcist in California, Father Gary Thomas, planned to counter the spell by saying prayers for the justice at Mass. “This is a conjuring of evil – not about free speech,” Father Thomas told the National Catholic Register.

    Dakota Bracciale, co-owner of Catland Books and one of the organisers of the event, said they would not share details or specifics of “the spells”, but told the BBC the hex was “aimed at exposing Brett Kavanaugh for what he truly is, to cause him harm and see him undone”.

    So Catholics take it seriously enough to circle the wagons around li’l Brett.

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    Tenar Arha says:

    @Baud: @satby: @gene108: [head nodding vigorously] Yuup, every state, like gene said.

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    MomSense says:

    @Elizabelle: @debbie:

    They’re also on Spotify, stitcher and iTunes so you can listen to back episodes.

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    oldgold says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    This analysis is akin to the rooster crowed and as a consequence the sun came up.

    Republican intensity was preordained to rise as the election neared. The cause is the approaching election.

    To a lesser degree Democratic intensity is rising, but our growth is limited by the fact you cannot ignite something that is already on fire.

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    Yutsano says:

    In Washington the Democratic majority is razor thin. Our goal here is to expand that as much as possible. Gonna get on that today!

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    Jeffro says:

    I just watched a video of Abigail Spanberger absolutely SPANKING Dave Brat in their recent debate…damn she is impressive, and FSM do I hate that mofo Brat

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    Emma says:

    @zhena gogolia: I am getting really worried about you. Please remember that the MSM is looking for “the fight,” “the match”, all those imbecile sports metaphors. Reality, not so much. No, we probably won’t get everything we want, but we will get most. And even the wrong outcome (Georgia, I’m looking at you), will result in people getting even more fired up.

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    debbie says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Maybe a point or two. At 538, he’s at 42.7%. It’s not freak out time yet.

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    Suzanne says:

    @Yutsano: So our local fishwrap, the very conservative Arizona Republic, endorsed Sinema over McSally today. I find Sinema deeply disappointing, and I know that endorsements don’t sway a lot of votes, but it feels like a good sign for the year. Maybe I’m grasping at straws, but it would be really nice to have Sinema win. She’s the best we’ll do here in this meth lab of democracy.

    Mailed in my ballot yesterday morning. Woot woot.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @Walker: Whites never had demographics on their side in South Africa, but that didn’t stop them from implementing Apartheid.

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    I saw a movie yesterday, called Newton. It took the serious question of ballot access, who gets to vote and how. It did it with humor without getting too preachy.
    It was India’s entry to the Oscars last year.
    It is available on Amazon Prime for streaming.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @zhena gogolia: That is a bullshit story in the WaPost. Bookmarked it but did not read. I think Nate Silver even commented it was off (if reader comments are to be believed).

    Bookmarked it mostly to look at it closer to the elections, or after, and get back to them with “really, WaPost?”

    I am sick of these “Democrats are always seizing defeat from the jaws of victory” memes.

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    Redshift says:

    @Elizabelle: Yeah, I saw responses that the content of the story didn’t even match the headline, and didn’t bother to click through.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Elizabelle: @Redshift: They need the horserace. They crave the horserace. So dab gum they’re gonne be gettin’ one!

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    MazeDancer says:


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    Ken says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: they’ll learn now and in 2020 but amnesia will set in just in time for 2022.

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    JGabriel says:


    Justice Roberts legacy will be forever tied to Shelby and history books will mention him right along side Taney.

    The old racist laws that prevented blacks from voting were part of the Jim Crow laws. In ‘honor’ of Jim Crow and John Roberts, I think we should call the current round of statutes aimed at taking voters rights away ‘Johnny Bob Laws’.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @zhena gogolia: Trump is not on the ballot, and I suspect the rise in his ratings is in part because other stories have pushed his own crimes out of the headlines–whenever Trump isn’t the focus of the news, his ratings go up a little because a few Republicans go back to supporting him. There’s absolutely no evidence of this negatively affecting Democratic House prospects. The actual House polls are holding steady at the best they’ve been for the whole campaign.

    The Senate picture got worse, and that might have to do with Kavanaugh. But that’s because there are a couple of vulnerable Democratic Senators in super-red states–it’s an effect of the terrible 2018 Senate map. It doesn’t seem to translate to the House.

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    laura says:

    @zhena gogolia: How could Kavanaugh have made his approval rating go UP????? 

    Because as much as too many people hate (too many to list…), hatred of women is/has been/will always be a prime mover.
    Men. Hate. Women.
    Not all, but too damn many.

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    Aleta says:

    A form of Vra Is needed for the whole country not only the South. I expect some Dems and civil rights workers are already working on the legislation possibilities for as soon as we’re back in power. Seems like once again whites’ attitude, ‘why should I worry if it’s not a problem for whites’ has been the road to systemic failure as well as moral.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @debbie: Not only that, Trump’s approval rating doesn’t even matter at this point. It’s a number you can ignore until a year or more from now. It’s an interesting indicator when you’re trying to predict the midterms without any midterm polls, but… we have midterm polls.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Have had many personal distractions lately, so it’s quite possible Adam or Cheryl posted on this and I simply missed it, but apparently Trump has announced that the U.S. is pulling out of the INF Treaty we signed with Russia/USSR 31 years ago.

    There are a million reasons to despise Trump, and I’m totally #SitNextToMe with all of them — but among the most troubling is his eagerness to terminate, or threaten to terminate, international agreements. Trade/economic? Environmental? Mutual defence? Nuclear nonproliferation? Human rights? He’s never met a contract he didn’t try to invalidate, in person, in his business, or as the Leader of the Soon-to-be-ex-Free World.

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    trollhattan says:

    It’s a bad move. Of course. Gorby weighs in.

    Trump only values Leader For Life heads of state and Gorby is a loser for not keeping his seat.

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    debbie says:


    I first heard this this morning. He’s out of his fucking mind.

    I think Trump’s looking for a fight, any fight, solely to curry favor with his base. I don’t see how Trump can escalate distractions much higher than he already has.

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    trollhattan says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: @debbie:
    Also, too, I don’t think Trump gives a shit–this has Bolton’s fingerprints on it IMHO.

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    debbie says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Understood. But I enjoy each decrease, no matter how slight, knowing it will infuriate Trump.

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    randy khan says:


    They need to expand it cover every state. Even supposedly Democratic states can wind up with a Republican governor or Sec of State, such as MD, MA, NJ, IL, etc

    It should cover every state. And while I get the reasons that the original VRA targeted states with a history of discrimination, it actually will be easier to defend the new VRA if it covers everyone, and harder for specific states to argue that they have been good enough that they should be allowed out from under it.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @trollhattan: Actually my (pagan) niece agrees that this is wrong. Says they should be use invocations for protection against wrong by him, not baneful magic which only multiplies evil.

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    Gretchen says:

    @MazeDancer: I wrote to them yesterday on your urging and have a list of 25 voters for Heidi Heidtcamp to write today. Thanks.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I don’t see how Trump can escalate distractions much higher than he already has.

    I don’t see how either, but I’m positive he will find a way.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Jennifer Rubin has a good column in today’s Washington Post: “Two years of Trump leave us wanting to wash away the moral and financial filth that he’s tracked into the White House. If Americans turn out to vote in large enough numbers, the midterms will provide a national cleansing, a political fumigation.” Amen!

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    JPL says:

    @Suzanne: I have a work related question.. My son is planning on building a modern house and has been interviewing a few local (Atlanta) architects. How important is it for the architect to work closely with the builder?

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    Gretchen says:

    @Aleta: I think that was the basis for the Roberts court gutting the VRA – that it didn’t apply to all the states. Actions by states like Wisconsin show that it needs to apply to all states, so I think that will be the next step

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    JPL says:

    @Mike in NC: Please let it happen.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I agree about Bolton’s fingerprints, but I do still think Trump is hell-bent on demolishing every possible treaty, pact, agreement, compact, MoU, accord, or gentlemen’s handshake that was executed prior to January 20, 2017.

    He goes way beyond not giving a shit. He is actively working to dismember any semblance of international agreement or cooperation.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Gelfling 545:
    Uh, there ain’t no such thing as magic.

    I hope these people are voting, which can make Republicans disappear.

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    Brachiator says:


    He goes way beyond not giving a shit. He is actively working to dismember any semblance of international agreement or cooperation

    This is true. I think that Bolton understood how to appeal to Trump’s ego.

    Trump not only wants to dismantle Obama’s legacy. He wants to recreate America and Mark it with the Trump brand. He wants to be remembered as Donald the First, Emperor of the United States.

    If he could, he would revoke the Constitution and redo it as a series of Twitter messages.

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    B.B.A. says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: One of those stories on A15 this week is that we’re pulling out of the Universal Postal Union of 1874, supposedly because China isn’t paying their share of international postage. So instead soon it’ll be impossible to get any mail from other countries at all, because suck it libtards!

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    zhena gogolia says:


    I never used to think so, but the Kavanaugh thing has me wondering . . . .

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    This is true. I think that Bolton understood how to appeal to Trump’s ego.

    Yup. Bolton is all kinds of horrible, evil things, but I don’t think anyone’s ever accused him of being stupid.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Yutsano: We voted yesterday. Thank goodness for the internet to help us figure out the judges. One delightful candidate refused to cooperate with the bar association surveying the candidates, so he didn’t get my vote. Everyone else was considered qualified but the ones that are listed by the progressive voter’s guide were all of the ones considered very qualified.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    we’re pulling out of the Universal Postal Union of 1874


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    Aleta says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Cheryl explained some , in a comment reply somewhere. There mght be some links to knowledgeable writers in her twitter, which is often good at pointing at relevant sources to read.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Can he do that? Can’t Congress stop him?

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    J R in WV says:


    Some haters think the old slurs are the best slurs. I think that’s a deep south thing, and GA is about as deep south outside ATL and Athens as you get.

    My family drove down to FL over Christmas break when I was quite young, in the 1950s, before interstates were completed. We drove through tiny southern towns, where I first saw “Whites Only” and “Coloreds Only” signs on water fountains. The white folks got a bathroom some places, while the black folks got a privy farther out back.

    Then we drove on detours between completed bits of interstate, through the farms on little barely paved roads… I don’t know how dad even got maps for what was built and what wasn’t yet complete… there were sharecroppers living in the same poorly built one board thick wall shacks their grandparents lived in as slaves. Probably still are in more remote poor farming areas.

    So yeah, coons. Many of those racists may think that’s more polite than the N word – to me they’re wrong, one and the same. But I’m a white boy so I’m not sure.

    In 1972 when my ship was in Pascagoula Mississippi for shipyard overhaul, the tiny shrimp port was overwhelmed by the Navy contracts the newly enlarged yards had. They were not happy to have Yankees outnumber them in their pristine little white berg. The liquor store had a sign over the cash register that said “All Proceeds from Sales to N***s will be Donated to the United Klans of Mississippi!” and that was how it was in 1972 Mississippi. Same as it was in 1959 SC, NC, and GA.

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    J R in WV says:


    As a person who had an architect design a difficult to build house, it’s very important for an architect to appear at the job site frequently, to be sure that “As Built” is just like “As Drawn”. Without the architect visits, the home owner is at the mercy of the builder.

    My builders were/are my friends.

    Most builders are NOT your friends. Just my $0.02 as a home owner. Still wish I had stuck to my “No flat roofs” rule!!

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    Jay says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    Aparthaid replaced a White Colonial System after “Independence” in an attempt to make South African appear to be a democracy, by forcing the majority of the African population into “Independent” Bantustans. South Africa claimed they wern’t part of South Africa and therefore the inhabitants didn’t get a South African vote.

    Analogy fail.

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    Kay says:


    Justice Roberts legacy will be forever tied to Shelby and history books will mention him right along side Taney.

    I think we should call the state voter suppression laws that passed after Shelby “Roberts laws” – “another Roberts law, this time in Georgia, was used this cycle to deny thousands of qualified voters their rights..” Make him wear it like a badge.

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    Kay says:

    Well, it doesn’t matter if these people are denied their right to vote. The important part was Justice Roberts got to enact his pet far Right legal theories – it’s all abstract to him. His legal theory told him states wouldn’t discriminate against these voters. They should really be honored- they’re taking part in an experiment.

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    pcpablo says:

    Stacy may be that close, but the polls are stating the view of people who think their votes will be counted. I’m a current Georgian, and the Atl. Journal Constitution has not spent a lot of time on this.

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    JPL says:

    @J R in WV: I’m trying to stay out of it.. ha ha but I can you tell you he loves flat roofs. The house they are living in is modern but small. He purchased the lot next door and they will build a new home there, and then rent out their current house.

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    debbie says:


    That episode is now airing here. Kemp sounds like a real winner.

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    Damien says:

    @Baud: It should just be every state. Voting is such a fundamental aspect of being an American that it’s something states shouldn’t be allowed to screw with; it should be a federal standard.

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    JPL says:

    @Damien: Imagine what the republicans would do if one tried to pass an amendment guaranteeing the right to vote.

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    Ruckus says:

    @J R in WV:
    Stationed in Charleston, SC in 71-72 on a tin can. Drove around to see what was what. West of town is the swamps, every so often you’d see a shack, that looked like it had been built around the time of the revolution, with laundry hanging outside. And if you saw anyone, they were black. I never saw any whites only signs, I sure expected to, it was just better hidden. Twenty yrs later, in a small town in the northwest corner of the state, a buddy and I went to a motorcycle restoration shop. In the bathroom, hanging on the back of the door, was a very old klan robe and hat. No, there’s no racism there. None whatsoever.

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    Tenar Arha says:


    I think we should call the state voter suppression laws that passed after Shelby “Roberts laws” – “another Roberts law,

    Yeah. I‘ve been thinking of this newest five votes on the SC as a bunch of Injustices so…“another Injustice Roberts law…”

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    Julia says:


    We built our dream home 4 years ago. My opinion is that it is vitally important for the architect to remain involved in the project from start to finish. Our “team” (architect, builder, interior designer) worked hand in hand for the entire build and we were very happy with the results. We would often notice something in the building process and would bring it up to one of the team, only to be told that they already knew and were “on it”.

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    dww44 says:

    @J R in WV: As one who’s lived in the middle of the state South of Atlanta for more than 40 years and who grew up in the middle of a rural area 100 miles east, I’d admit to the presence of racism, but I honestly do not think it is any more prevalent here than in other red states in other parts of the country. And the difference here is that there are lots of African Americans everywhere, in the small cities and in the rural areas, where they may be the most economically disadvantaged, but not always. In fact, all of the rural areas are economically depressed and in sore need of jobs and futures for all of their citizens.

    It’s also true that many whites long ago abandoned the public schools for predominantly white private ones, often religiously affiliated. All of this explains, in part, why Republicans won’t adequately fund public schools;their constitutents are not invested in them.. Kemp has an ad for governor now in which he talks about his appreciation of education because his wife was once a Pre-K teacher. Never once does he mention the word :”public” education. He does talk about colleges and the Hope Scholarship as those who attend the many private schools do depend on those scholarship monies to help with funding their college educations.

    It’s as it ever was; we spend far too much monies and time and effort running away from each other.

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    Suzanne says:


    How important is it for the architect to work closely with the builder?

    Dead thread, just saw this, sorry.

    I always this projects are better when architect/engineer and GC collaborate. However, due to types of contractual relationships, this doesn’t always work out. For simpler projects, like most residential projects, getting a builder involved early is probably not going to be a big benefit to a project. Most production and custom housing is done with very standard construction. However, if he’s looking to build something unique or experimental, or with any funky conditions like building on a hillside, I’d look for a design-build residential contractor. That way, the two halves of the project would be coordinated under one roof.

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    Suzanne says:


    My opinion is that it is vitally important for the architect to remain involved in the project from start to finish. Our “team” (architect, builder, interior designer) worked hand in hand for the entire build and we were very happy with the results.

    Yes. This is noted in a standard AIA contract as “construction administration services” for the design team. I personally think that it’s the most important part of my job.

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