The leering pig who made a fool of himself yesterday by mistaking the UN general assembly for a campaign rally in Deploraville will waddle forth at 5 PM ET for his first solo press conference since the Cretaceous Period. Here’s a link to the White House YouTube channel if you want to watch. I’d embed the video feed, but then we’d all have to look at Trump’s hideous visage in the screen cap. Better to just click, I think.
Trump will get lots of questions about the man accused of multiple violent sexual assaults whom Trump is trying to install on the SCOTUS for life. I doubt he’ll handle the questions well, being a self-described sexual predator who has also been credibly accused of assaulting multiple women. He’ll sneer and snuffle and attack Kavanaugh’s accusers because that’s what gross degenerates like Trump do.
From news clips I’ve seen today, it appears the GOP’s Kavanaugh talking points have been updated from IF BRETT’S SO BAD, WHERE ARE THE OTHER ACCUSERS? to WHAT KIND OF GIRL REPEATEDLY ATTENDS HIGH SCHOOL RAPE PARTIES AND DOESN’T CALL THE COPS?
Since I was also in high school during the Reagan administration, I can answer that question. For many kids of that era, “rape” was an attack in an alley by a stranger. Those who were sexually assaulted by drunken louts who were acquaintances were as likely to blame themselves as their attackers. And they sure as hell didn’t tell parents or cops about it since they figured they’d be scolded for being dirty sluts who had it coming.
If you’ve spent the whole day — week, month, past two goddamned years! — feeling sick and angry, come sit by me. At this point, I’m running on rage and tea, and the only thought that sustains me is the belief that when these repellent swine fall, they’ll fall really fucking HARD.
Open thread.
TenguPhule
Goat Demolition Derby, Commence!
TenguPhule
What’s the BJ house over/under that Trump will not take any questions?
schrodingers_cat
Amen, sister friend.
So far Rs in Congress have condoned
1. Treason
2. Child Kidnapping
3. Rape.
Dorothy A. Winsor
I’ll repeat this from the previous thread
TenguPhule
Gonna need a bigger couch. And more tea.
TenguPhule
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I think we’ve all seen what the Republican version of consent is.
hells littlest angel
@TenguPhule: That would be some press conference.
chopper
dumpster dumpster, burning bright
in the alley of the night
what immortal hand or eye
could frame thy bullshit gimmickry?
ruemara
I was thinking of joining a make a film in a day event but mighty Isis, the local community is a massive grifting operation. Yikes. I’d need around $70 to attend and if I’d like first picks to direct, I have to pony up $240. Not including travel costs. Or gear. Double yikes. NIN tickets in SF sound a lot more interesting.
Adam L Silverman
Item 1:
Item 2:
Emma
@TenguPhule: I keep telling you. We’ll need a 10,000 seat amphitheatre. And possibly two oil tankers full of tea.
patrick II
It only makes sense that Trump would want to Trump appointed the Bill Cosby of jurists to the Supreme Court.
prufrock
The last time Trump had a press conference, I was in the emergency room greatly suffering from a gangrenous gall bladder. I remember the press conference because it was on the tv, and I couldn’t understand why the universe had decided to double down on my stomach pain by torturing my ears.
eclare
@TenguPhule: Save room for me!
Snarkworth, short-fingered Bulgarian
I’d like to know what transpires, but there’s no way I’m clicking on the link. I hope those of you with stronger stomachs will live blog it for us.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
We need a program to keep track of this list of lying liars who lie.
Adam L Silverman
@chopper:
schrodingers_cat
@ruemara: Can you suggest a cheap video camera that I can use to record lectures (20 minutes to 40 minutes)
Adam L Silverman
Holy crap, he started early! Didn’t see that coming.
Mary G
Greg Sargeant, WaPo: Mark Judge’s former girlfriend is ready to talk to FBI and Judiciary Committee, her lawyer says
This is the woman who told Ronan and Jane about Judge confessed to her about multiple men having sex with one girl at a party, and that he seemed to consider it consensual.
That’s what the assholes get for calling those who come forward sluts and liars, just brings out women who were on the fence or feeling guilty themselves.
TenguPhule
@Emma:
I’m still not sure we could fit everyone inside.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Is that what you want carved on your tombstone? //
Roger Moore
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
That’s what the rules say, but what penalty does he suffer if he goes ahead and hires her without Feinstein’s consent? The rules mean nothing unless they’re backed up by meaningful penalties.
Jeffro
He’s gonna praise K’s loyalty and threaten the GOP senators
TenguPhule
@eclare:
Done!
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
its who he is.
Betty Cracker
Trump accuses China of meddling in the midterms but says he has a great relationship with President Xi and claims he’s going to make a great trade deal with them.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Snarkworth, short-fingered Bulgarian: You and me both.
West of the Rockies
@chopper:
Off-stage, William Blake smiles chuckles with pleasure.
ruemara
@schrodingers_cat: Do you have a budget and how large a room? Do you want to patch into a sound system? Or is it a simple classroom?
TenguPhule
@Roger Moore:
That’s what I keep telling everybody.
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
Check Costco if you can.
Mary G
Fortunately, Daniel Dale is live-tweeting.
West of the Rockies
That our Moron-in-Chief thinks he’s up to the task is astonishing. Well, maybe not. He is one un- self-aware buffoon.
TenguPhule
@Betty Cracker:
You can’t expect Trump to remember his state of mind the moment before he says something else.
lamh36
encephalopath
I was wondering why Blasey Ford would answer any questions from the Arizona prosecutor, assuming it happens at all. Because the structure of the hearing would be really weird. The Democrats would ask their questions on the clock., one by one. Then what… all the Republican time gets turned over the the prosecutor lady?
Why wouldn’t Professor Ford just refuse to answer her questions, saying, “I will answer questions from the Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee and you’re not one.” Then just sit there.
Mai Naem mobile
Jeezus I can’t watch this. What a total asshole piece of shit with a brain of an immature gnat.
raven
Dude is a serious moron.
Rob in Hawaii
Okay. I didn’t go to Georgetown Prep. I graduated from the OTHER Washington, DC Jesuit-all-boys-slightly-less-upscale-college-prep high school. I didn’t do high school in the 80s. I attended in the late 60s — I’m 13 years older than Kavanaugh. But I am a product of the same blackout drunk, hyper-masculine, asshole culture. Just reading his yearbook page gives me stomach churning deja vu. Beach week arrest in Rehobeth? Me too! Snarky giggly references to boorish drinking stories in school publications? Me too! (No on the rapey stuff, however.) If his story is that his teenage years were spent in the service of God and community, I call bullshit. Some of us from that environment grew up. He’s still the same drunken, lying, asshole he was in high school.
Timurid
@Jeffro:
Over/under on him threatening the victims/witnesses?
raven
Dang! Keepin it real up in there!
Mary G
He’s going to the “lazy black man” argument right off:
I may vomit.
debbie
He’s fucking babbling!
Adam L Silverman
Mandalay
Trump:
No mention of Cubans in Cuba. There’s a reason he shouldn’t talk to the press.
lamh36
https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o7TKVfu4rwyscasla/200_d.gif
raven
@Mandalay: Do you know who the questioner was?
lamh36
Timurid
@Rob in Hawaii:
I did go to Georgetown Prep and am just now learning that my school was a bigger Hellmouth than Buffy’s…
Beat Gonzaga! (Sorry, the brainwashing hasn’t completely worn off.)
pk
I was told a pretty terrible story by my daughter yesterday. A friend my daughter’s was visiting another friend and her boyfriend. They had some drinks, the boyfriend kept asking repeatedly if she was drunk. The girl responded no (said she was a bit buzzed but not drunk). Well the guy just threw himself at her and started to grope her. She pushed him away (she’s strong and weighed more than the creep), and left. The worst part is that her friend told her that “you manipulated my boyfriend”. Just crazy! On another note I was told that at Virginia Tech frat parties, the guys color code the girls’ cups to mark who they want to drug.
I don’t think I can handle much more of this.
lamh36
TenguPhule
And he goes there.
Mandalay
Reporter: Are they [Kavanaugh’s female accusers] liars? Yes or no?
Trump: I don’t know. I’ll have to watch tomorrow….
It took a while, but he finally gave a correct answer.
Adam L Silverman
@Rob in Hawaii: I went to the one in Tampa until my dad took sabbatical my senior year and we went out to Denver where I finished up in a public school. I cannot imagine the priests and/or non-clerical faculty at Tampa Jesuit allowing that sort of stuff happening in yearbook production. In fact I know for a fact that they rode herd on the entire yearbook production process. And that’s before the Prefect of Discipline reviewed the penultimate draft for content. When I wanted to put, as a gag, Jue Crue on my Key Club jersey, the Prefect of Discipline overruled the actual Jesuit priest who was the club advisor and said I couldn’t do it.
Betty Cracker
Jesus Chicken-Fried Christ, this is a train-wreck.
lamh36
Roger Moore
@raven:
Trump isn’t a moron. He may or may not be senile, but he isn’t a moron. He is a willfully ignorant narcissist. He believes he’s too smart to need to learn things the hard way; he can just get a superficial idea of what’s happening by listening to his chosen advisors and then his genius will come up with the right response. If worst comes to worst, he can bamboozle people with his winning words and get them to go along. He’s been bullshitting for so long, he believes his own line of bullshit about how great he is.
Adam L Silverman
Acosta and Hallie Jackson are doing a good job.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Why would we plug it back in?
TenguPhule
@lamh36:
Did Trump just confess to raping his own daughters?
raven
@Roger Moore: There is almost nothing you say that I don’t agree with.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: But not in others? Good to know, Donald, that makes it a rather easy choice, doesn’t it?
bupalos
Isn’t there a link for someone who tells you what the fetid pig carcass is grunting about without having to actually disturb your circadian rhythms by seeing or hearing that disgusting pile of decay?
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: Told ya!
lamh36
Is this mofo confusing Washington and Jefferson?
eclare
@Roger Moore: High on his own supply
TenguPhule
Bank on a government shutdown then.
different-church-lady
@lamh36: Psst: cherry tree
Mandalay
@raven:
I don’t recall his name, but he was from Martí. There should be a full transcript of the whole shitshow available in a few minutes.
satby
Make room on that couch for me too.
These last few days have almost immobilized me. Things I had thought I moved on from long ago are haunting me again. Though I’m older than Betty this
was even more true for my generation, with the double pressure of being uncool with “free love”. We blamed ourselves for getting assaulted and raped, especially if we had a drink or enjoyed a toke.
Obviously, buried memories are coming up for hundreds of women.
Adam L Silverman
@Mandalay: If there’s all these Cubans in Miami, how can their still be Cubans in Cuba? You can’t explain that.//
TenguPhule
@Betty Cracker:
What comes after goat train wreck?
Adam L Silverman
@raven: Male reporter from Radio Marti.
lamh36
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
The Wookie defense needs a link.
ruemara
@pk: I wrote this on 9/18:
A lot of men I know are either shocked at men or feeling a deep revulsion for their gender.
@lamh36: I swear to god these people are huffing.
celticdragonchick
WTF is he babbling about?
Barbara
@Adam L Silverman: That’s the part that amazes me. They let them put in all that stuff about drinking and other potentially illegal behavior, not to mention the stuff about Renate — it makes it sound like the school was a babysitting service for wealthy party boys.
lamh36
Jeffro
@Betty Cracker: but a GOOD train wreck…keep taking, Orange Menace!
TenguPhule
@lamh36:
Given Trump’s record so far, he’d nominate a woman actually guilty of it.
TenguPhule
@celticdragonchick:
Its madness from the depths of the abyss. Save yourself.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Betty Cracker: You think so? I’m so used to the crazy that I can’t tell any more.
lamh36
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: side note: my daughter’s been on her HS yearbook staff for years…you would not believe (well, YOU would) the vetting the quotes get nowadays…
He’s now recounting all the details of his sexual assaults. KEEP. TALKING. ORANGE. MENACE.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: He did propose to every eligible, cash wealthy woman of means and bearing in Virginia before he proposed to Martha Custis. He started courting Martha Custis while she was still married to her first husband.
The Dangerman
Trump Press Conference? No fucking way. Not a chance. I’d rather have my fingernails yanked out with a pair of plyers.
Take one for me OK, Folks? Give me the lowlights.
TenguPhule
@lamh36:
Wait, is he now confessing to abducting some of his previous accusers?
Jeffro
“What evidence of Chinese meddling, Mr. president*?”
LOL
lamh36
Emma
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I was going to answer to Betty but you got there first.
raven
@The Dangerman: It’s funny as hell.
Mart
Sweet moobly goobly.
celticdragonchick
Is drunk Gish Gallop a thing? because is what this seems to be. We need a new term for his incoherent spiels.
MJS
@Roger Moore: Thinking you are significantly smarter than you actually are is, in and of itself, evidence of being a moron.
Mike in NC
We just got home a few hours ago after being absent for two weeks due to the hurricane and then attending a wedding on Nantucket. The good news is that everything has finally been fixed: the landlines, the Internet connection, power in general, etc. Downed tree was removed the next day by our lawn guy. Wife’s car is still sitting in the garage with a dead battery, so we’ll call AAA in the morning. We almost missed our flights because the stupid GPS routed us from Boston to Providence via every obscure back road in southern MA instead of major highways. Up at 5 AM today, we might be calling it a day pretty soon…
Barbara
@Jeffro: I went to a public school but I guess my teachers had gone to real Catholic school because no one could imagine even suggesting putting something in there that referred to drinking or illegal behavior of any kind. The kind of Catholic schools where the teachers made you clean up your own vomit if you didn’t make it to the bathroom in time. Yes, it really happened to a friend of mine.
Roger Moore
@TenguPhule:
If you plugged it into a different president, it might work better.
celticdragonchick
@TenguPhule:
Too late, God help me….
WaterGirl
@pk:
That is sickening, literally and figuratively.
mozzerb
@Roger Moore: That’s a pretty good working definition of ‘moron’.
Jeffro
What a fucking moron…
opiejeanne
I am in Temecula* at my HS 50th reunion. The early arrivals drinking party was last night, and the get drunk before the big celebration starts at 4:30pm. I swear, someone had better make sure there are no steak knives near me.
* I went to school in Temple City but there’s no place to hold a reunion there
Mandalay
Trump:
WTF is he talking about?
Adam L Silverman
@celticdragonchick: If I could answer that, I’d need a 72 hour evaluatory hold.
Luciamia
Tucking paranoia on parade
PAM Dirac
@Rob in Hawaii: Seems to be a number of Eye St boys around here. I am 10 years older than BK. In my years downtown I do remember going to parties all over the DC area, but I don’t remember overlapping very much at all with the Prep crowd (and certainly not Holton Arms and Stone Ridge). I don’t know if that is part of the change that took place when the ’68 riots happened and a lot of the “proper” upper middle class didn’t want their boys to go downtown anymore (or maybe associate with those that did?). I’ll have to ask my brothers (’79 and ’84) if there was more interaction with the Prep crowd when they got there later. In any event although there was plenty of drinking in my years there, it was much more nerd culture than frat boy culture.
Emma
The massive sound of breaking glass followed by thuds y’all are hearing is the self-defenestration by his attorneys.
Rommie
@celticdragonchick: That’s apparently not water he’s drinking…
I’m in Wonka-mode: Stop. Don’t. Come Back.
Jeffro
Oh hey…”no collusion, no obstruction!” Haven’t heard any of that since Manafort pled…hmmm…
And now he may ‘delay’ meeting with Rod…whatsamatter, Trumpov, you can’t walk and chew gum like your predecessor?
The Dangerman
I’d add in an edit, if I had the capacity to edit, is THIS how desperate they are? The way to save Kavanaughty is to have the Big Man hold a Press Conference? That will solve everything? Are they out of their fucking minds?
Maybe this was previously scheduled, but if it’s an attempt to clean up the mess, they all need to resign.
Roger Moore
@different-church-lady:
That actually was a made up story. Mason Weem’s Life of Washington is not a reliable source.
lamh36
Jeffro
“lover Lisa Page” – fucking creep
venice
Anyone going to mention Butters’ … um, Senator Graham’s insane assertions? Basically it’s “hey, why didn’t those girls quit gymnastics altogether if they were raped?! this is crazy! Give that doctor a promotion!”
I want him tried and fried, at this point. I was unaware I had another level of angry until now.
sm*t cl*de
@lamh36:
If Kavanaugh crashes & burns, you’ll be hearing a lot from Trump about how he always opposed the nomination but K was foisted on him.
Adam L Silverman
@Barbara: I’m not saying that my classmates or I were altar boys, including the actual altar boys. But something like that wouldn’t have been tolerated in anything official.
WaterGirl
@lamh36:
Why does that sound just like:
He is publicly threatening to make up stores about female nominees as revenge.
Adam L Silverman
He just admitted to committing obstruction.
Rob in Hawaii
@Timurid: Also, too. Beat St. John’s! Gotta say, the Jebbies really did train us!
Mary G
West of the Rockies
@ruemara:
Yes to both. I am shocked and repulsed by some of my fellow men, an all-too-wide swath of them.
Jeffro
How much do I love this 25th amendment discussion? A. LOT.
Adam L Silverman
@celticdragonchick: FershniketTrumpenspiel?
different-church-lady
@Roger Moore: ACCUSASTIONS!
celticdragonchick
@Adam L Silverman:
It’s SNL drunk uncle…but he hasn’t had alcohol and he has nuclear launch authority.
Mandalay
@lamh36:
Yep. That’s the worst thing he’s said so far, but it ain’t over till it’s over…
TenguPhule
JFC.
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: …and somewhere, in a no-leak office, Bob Mueller prints out another indictment….
gene108
I tried watching , but Trump is basically gaslighting America with every answer. What is the point in asking Trumo questions? He is a lying liar, who you cannot fact check in real time, because he lies with every word he utters, and he will lose no support from his supporters for all the lying he does. His supporters, will just decide Trump’s lies are now the truth and any contradiction is fake news.
HeleninEire
Night friends. I. CAN. NOT.
Gotta go to work tomorrow.
Also he’s sniffing again.
Mart
@Jeffro: According to his top advisers he may not just be a fucking moron, he could be a fucking idiot. Or maybe both. At this point I’m confused.
I did hear somewhere that Trump is a pussy grabber who pops Tic Tacs before sticking his tongue into a women’s mouth. So that goes to show he would never assault a woman… Fake news fer sure.
celticdragonchick
@Adam L Silverman:
Trump Trample?
PAM Dirac
@Timurid:
9/15/18 – Gonzaga 30 – Prep 0 . My brother wants to know if that means we get a Supreme Court seat.
Mary G
OMG the letters Chairman Kim has sent him are magnificent!
satby
@Adam L Silverman: what did he say?!?!
Roger Moore
@Barbara:
FTFY. This is how we get the kind of elites we’re dealing with. I’m not on board with tumbrels, but I certainly think confiscatory estate taxes (including removing many of the current loopholes) are a great idea.
TenguPhule
The human suit has to be malfunctioning. No real human being could be talking like this.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: He’s waffling on his own SCOTUS pick? In a press conference?
Betty Cracker
This is fucking bonkers.
TenguPhule
Adam L Silverman
@Rob in Hawaii: You don’t mess with the Society!!!!
TenguPhule
@The Dangerman:
Yes?
JPL
Rambling Rose is rambling. In other words, he is f.king nuts.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: Yet tomorrow he might change his mind.
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
I know, its fucking nuts. But its happening.
raven
Rhetorical Contests!
Mary G
Cheryl Rofer
“They shifted a mountain. They thought it was an earthquake, but it was nuclear testing.”
He understands the detection of nuclear tests the way he understands stealth technology.
celticdragonchick
https://twitter.com/ron_fournier/status/1045061427789254657
Fournier can’t even stand this shit show.
TenguPhule
@Roger Moore:
To be fair, Infrastructure week isn’t over yet.
raven
He needs to explain how many people are in range of NK twice!
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
Stealth Quakes!
Cheryl Rofer
Also raving on that Obama was ready to go to war with North Korea. Which never happened.
debbie
Have I lost my long-term memory? I don’t remember Obama being on the brink of war with North Korea. Someone forget to tell me to be frightened.
JPL
@Betty Cracker: omg.. The republicans must be so proud.
Cheryl Rofer
@debbie:
VeniceRiley
I kinda want the entire female USA Gymnastic team to fly to Washington and kick Lindsey Butters in the gayjunk.
Ladyraxterinok
@Roger Moore: Read that this ìs true only if whole committee is hiring someone, ie someone to work for whole committee. Dems can hire their own aides and GOP their own. Do not need consent of other party.
JPL
@debbie: Only the biggest brain ever knows that.
Adam L Silverman
@celticdragonchick: You get my email?
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
Every accusation is a confession.
lamh36
debbie
Hold on. It wasn’t the Dems who were scammed by a comedian masquerading as a Russian.
JPL
holy fuck what just happened what do you say to the women .. . no collusion
Adam L Silverman
@satby: I fight back, boy do I fight back. I counterpunch. Now if you consider that obsrtruction… But I’m a fighter, I hit back hard.
Or something to that effect.
Cheryl Rofer
Q – Are you concerned by the message you are sending women —
Trump interrupts
The woman Sky News reporter tries again.
Trump starts ranting about Russia. “Senator Warner took a call from a Russian. It’s a con job.”
schrodingers_cat
From what you guys are reporting he sounds cray cray.
debbie
@Cheryl Rofer:
Thanks for bolstering my memory, but Jeez, he sounded like a schoolgirl with those beautiful, magnificent letters!
celticdragonchick
@debbie: I was in South Korea the last time we got ready to go to war. I went on alert at 2 in the morning.
That has not happened again since 1993.
Cheryl Rofer
celticdragonchick
@Adam L Silverman: Sorry, hadn’t looked yet.
Cheryl Rofer
You know who’s been complaining the most about what’s happening?
The women.
The women are very angry.
He got that part right.
debbie
@schrodingers_cat:
This is the first time I’ve listened to him at length. He’s beyond cray cray.
khead
@Betty Cracker:
Yes. Let him keep talking. Please proceed.
Mary G
He says women are so angry, they are incensed at what is going on. He thinks that’s good for him.
Rob in Hawaii
@Adam L Silverman: Yes! The Jesuit fathers ran a tight ship at Gonzaga in the 60s. Haircuts, coats & ties, detention for small infractions, etc. Our prefect of discipline had once been a drill instructor in the Marine Corps, or so the story went. But I always felt that it was a given there that young males (by nature) are loutish drunks burning off a little steam. If given a little time and guidance, they’d put this all behind them and marry good Catholic girls who would tame their assholishness. Not sure Kavanaugh ever stopped being his high school self.
Mandalay
I can see the press getting slammed for yukking it up with Trump, but being spineless, deferential and laughing at his quips may actually be getting the right result for the wrong reasons.
Trump is so comfortable editorializing absolutely everything, and feeling like he is in total control, that he’s hanging himself quite nicely.
debbie
@celticdragonchick:
Thanks for that. I guess 25 years is just like yesterday to Trump.
raven
So now he’s going to let the same person ask another round of questions?
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: The Mittbot 3000 with the dodgy speech update.
celticdragonchick
@Adam L Silverman: OK, got it…all good here :)
khead
Not sure how I ended up in moderation, but yes it is bonkers. I want press conferences every day.
Ksmiami
@TenguPhule: as long as there’s a big and tall scaffolding set up. Let the show trials begin
L85NJGT
They run him out to mollify his base. This isn’t the bible thumpers or monied elites, but the dipshits that like him because he’s on teevee. There isn’t a lot critical thinking going on – they relate to him in the way a wrestling fan follows a heel turn. The non-sense is part of the entertainment. So is the heel eventually getting his comeuppance.
Mary G
He doesn’t like Canada’s trade representative. I wonder why? Surely not because she’s a woman?
lamh36
Chyron HR
@sm*t cl*de:
Well, I mean, it’s half-true.
Mary G
Mart
@celticdragonchick: Fournier’s Tweet, “This news conference is horrifying. What a disgrace.” – Gotta love the Tribal response: God and Country @FRLarson – Replying to @ron_fournier “If by horrifying you mean Republicans have never called out the corrupt Democrats and their enabling MSM the way @realDonaldTrump does? Yes horrifying…”
See, Lord Trump is owning the libtards! About damn time.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
This is the first time I’ve heard Trump talking about China trying to meddle in the mid-terms. Is this to divert attention from Russia or is it some goofy thing he heard on Fox? I don’t think fighting back on tariffs constitutes election meddling, but this big-picture economics stuff is beyond me. //
celticdragonchick
So we are gonna make billions by taxing China?
Can someone explain to me how the fuck that works?
lower podunk
Where is Plaid Shirt Guy when you need him??
Holy crap, this is verbal explosive diarrhea on steroids.
raven
THEY DIED FOR THEMSELVES!!!!
Mandalay
@Cheryl Rofer:
And then Trump claims he has “always said that women are more intelligent than men”, as though tossing a completely meaningless platitude will wipe the slate clean.
Cheryl Rofer
He called on this guy earlier. Now he’s telling him his version of Kurdish history.
Mary G
The poor Kurds are asking what we’ll do to help them and he just blows them off with “we’re going to talk about it soon.”
Ksmiami
@TenguPhule: give Roger time…
The Dangerman
If it’s as bad as reported (and I’m sure it is), someplace Rod Rosenstein is thinking, didn’t have to wear a wire to, huh? Daily Kos is saying twitter is blowing up about 25th…
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
This is an update?!
JPL
I have no idea at this point wtf he is talking about. Can someone help me out.
TenguPhule
@celticdragonchick:
Tariffs. Yes, you and I know they don’t work that way.
lamh36
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: Did they make the mountain invisible too?
Adam L Silverman
As someone who is close with, and was providing operational support for the I Corps Commanding General at the time, I can honestly say we were not on the brink of war in DEC 2016.
Cheryl Rofer
Now he’s raving about the JCPOA. “Why didn’t you take care of Yemen? Why didn’t you take care of Syria?”
WaterGirl
@raven: I’m afraid to ask what that’s about.
Mandalay
Trump just claimed that we paid Iran $1.8 billion. His most blatant lie so far.
TenguPhule
@debbie:
He’s trying for “both sides do it”
he’s accusing China of interfering on behalf of the Democratic party.
raven
@WaterGirl: The Kurds
trollhattan
@pk:
debbie
If anyone’s watching, are his staff members looking nervous? They should be.
Mary G
SFAW
@Mike in NC:
I once knew a man from there.
Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn
@Adam L Silverman:
A-GAIN?!
I try listening, knowing he could say something foolishly headline-making, but I can’t bring myself to continue such an assault my ears/intelligence/moral fiber/blood pressure, &tc.
brendancalling
This is disturbing and fascinating to watch. he’s literally losing his mind on national tv.
Cheryl Rofer
@Adam L Silverman: No, they just moved it, and nobody knew what happened until Trump told them it was nuclear testing. Nobody ever knew.
pluky
@encephalopath: Ooo! Me likes this idea. Make them sweat on live TV. After all, what can they do? She’s not there under subpoena.
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
What’s that phrase that keeps coming to mind?
Oh yeah, bile fascination.
Adam L Silverman
raven
@debbie: Nah, they know.
Cheryl Rofer
Thank goddess for people who are better than I am at following the word salad.
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: wtf is he talking about . He saved millions of people, and now he told Mr. Kurd that Turkey is wonderful
trollhattan
@pk:
We’ve indoctrinated our HS daughter to never lose sight of her drink and never accept an open drink, implying a sealed bottle or can only. She’s not (yet) participating in party drinking (or so we’re told) but she’s already observed more than an eyefull of bad behavior.
Fingers crossed. Plus she’s signing up at a boxing gym in addition to being able to race around a soccer pitch for 90 minutes.
Adam L Silverman
I think we can all now agree, that despite how odd it is that this is only the third or fourth formal press conference that President has done, that he shouldn’t do anymore.
SFAW
@schrodingers_cat:
Your version wasn’t wrong, but I thought I’d put a finer point on it.
trollhattan
@Adam L Silverman:
Okay, that wins all the internets. And popcorn and quatloos.
khead
@Adam L Silverman:
No, no. Every day.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman: The producers called. This movie script is ridiculous and beyond absurd.
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: Apparently it is something he’s sort of made up. From the answer he gave, where he mentioned the Chinese counter tariffs, I think he thinks that the counter tariffs count as election meddling. When DHS was asked about the claim earlier this week, they indicated that there was no evidence of this.
Mary G
He thinks the FTFNYT is going to endorse him, plus CBS, NBC. Face palm.
opiejeanne
@opiejeanne: I already had one brief comment at the first mixer last night from someone asking me, “but what has Trump done that’s wrong?” I had to walk away after mentioning the trade wars; it was easy because I was sure she’d been drinking and would forget the question immediately. Thank God she is not sitting at our table tonight. I’ll be with a bunch of band geeks, one of whom may be very far right+religious. I know his wife is, but I’m not sure he is.
Hilariously, or maybe not so funny since I’m here with my husband of 49 years, the woman who set up the whole reunion, negotiated with hotels, organized seating arrangements, told me some stuff about my ex-boyfriend from HS that sounds like she’s trying to spark something between the two of us. According to her, he still likes me very very much, and he’s single but don’t worry, he won’t embarrass me tonight.
Now, I’m pretty sure he’s got a wife and he told me online last week that it’s just as well that she didn’t come because they’d have to keep the steak knives away from her. Ha! I think Cindy misunderstood that he’s just coming by himself, and he wants to sit with me. And I think maybe Cindy was a little drunk last night when she told me.
God help me, I need a Xanax now.
The Moar You Know
He has been talking for an hour. Something about China. He is fucking insane.
khead
He went there.
“They weren’t laughing at me, they were laughing with me”.
The Dangerman
Please tell me when it’s over. A loud flushing sound will do it.
C. Isaac
@Adam L Silverman:
No, this should be every day. It’ll be like one of those picture a day video montages, only it’ll be slower, more painful, and of an aging, racist misogynist losing his mind to senility.
TenguPhule
@Mandalay:
Already lost in the last sixty seconds.
Cheryl Rofer
@Adam L Silverman: “They weren’t laughing at me, they were laughing with me.”
Adam L Silverman
@celticdragonchick: It doesn’t. Tariffs are just a form of tax on imports. There will be some money from them flowing into the Treasury, but that will be offset by the increased prices passed on to US consumers who will buy less, therefore generating less overall revenue in the economy and reducing overall tax receipts for the Federal, state, and local governments.
Cheryl Rofer
debbie
@The Moar You Know:
It’s like The Heart of Darkness, realizing there’s a madman.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: Different Kurd.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
There are some Black people who claim they’re descended from George Washington, but he was most likely infertile since he and Martha Custis never had children even though she had two from her previous marriage. If people do have some Washington family DNA, it’s most likely from one of his male relatives, not from him.
NickM
@TenguPhule: After goat rodeo comes Devil’s Triangle. Then Goat Boof.
TenguPhule
The lies are growing.
lamh36
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: Its not been debugged.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
How long until he cries, “Fake Government!”
Steve in the ATL
@Rob in Hawaii: @PAM Dirac: to tie together the last two threads, a few years ago the wife and I were in Galway and encountered a group of about 20 young men who had just graduated from Gonzaga and were on a month-long trip around Ireland. I spoke to a few and found a couple who were the sons of DC lawyers I knew and a couple who were headed to W&L.
We ran into them a couple of more times when they were more inebriated–maybe not the Full Kavanaugh but pretty drunk–and their behavior had become, shall we say, boorish. I gently defended the honor of a couple of Irish girls they were hassling, and when they made a couple of comments to my wife I threatened to call their dads and a couple of college deans. They reluctantly quieted down and began behaving like civilized Gaithersburg High School graduates.
Good times….
Cheryl Rofer
debbie
OH, BULLSHIT, YOU DON’T SPEAK TO SEAN HANNITY VERY OFTEN.
raven
@debbie: the horror
TenguPhule
@Mary G:
Definitely not NBC.
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: The camera hasn’t panned over to them. Kelly may be preparing to hang himself with his tie though.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Weren’t we assured those were common features for the production line?
raven
@Adam L Silverman: He has a sword doesn’t he?
Timurid
@PAM Dirac:
Ouch. When did they start playing that game so early? it always used to be at the end of the season, like Ohio State vs. Michigan.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
Bet Colbert will find a screen shot somewhere.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: I’m gonna need you to email me a diagram…//
JMG
I went to a small private day school in a city not that far from DC, and while sure there was rowdy behavior by boys, there was nothing like these stories. Maybe that’s because it was coed and you had to look girls in the eye on Mondays. Or maybe it’s because this was the late ’60s when marijuana came in and it lessened the rowdy edge rather than spur it on as alcohol does.
MisterForkbeard
@Adam L Silverman: I’m telling you, this is why proper software quality control is essential.
Software QA represent, yo.
TenguPhule
@debbie:
The moment there’s a Democratic majority in Congress.
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: I helped on the Army side with our counter-ISIS strategy in Syria and Iraq and I have no idea what he’s talking about.
Mandalay
@The Moar You Know:
I know he doesn’t drink, but he’s so much like a lonely, boring know-it-all at the end of the bar that everyone avoids like the plague.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@debbie: Just like he doesn’t watch television because of documents
TenguPhule
@raven:
Marine blades are not fully functional.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: Sure, sure…
Bobby Thomson
I swear it’s like Groundhog Day around here whenever Trump speaks. He’s a lying piece of trump and a dumbass. And he’s got an obvious coke habit. None of that is ever going to change. Save your time and read about it later.
raven
@TenguPhule: For fallling on? I think so.
Immanentize
The American press corps is so so sad. It makes me feel like I am in prison.
trollhattan
@Mandalay:
Cliff Clavin with ‘roid rage? (Not watching)
Adam L Silverman
@raven: Should have a Mamluk sword with his dress blues and Class As.
Quinerly
“They are doing studies on Donald Trump.”
WTF?
Steve in the ATL
@MisterForkbeard:
Aw yeah we gettin’ street now!
debbie
This is the longest I’ve ever listened to him. I don’t know how you guys can bear this. I gotta go outside and play in traffic.
Craig
@WaterGirl: Hokie here. I never saw or heard about anything like that in all my time there.
lamh36
Is this mufhaphucka STILL talking…
Trying to talk past the nightly news?
Adam L Silverman
@MisterForkbeard: No arguments here.
TenguPhule
@raven:
not sharp enough and too thin.
jl
Besides the assault accusations, I wonder if there will be time to investigate all of Kavanaugh lies about his boarding school life, assaults or assistance in arranging assaults, and knowing receiving and passing along stolen documents from an illegal hack, among other things.
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
You are on point, BC.
Good post.
This entire process has brought up instances long forgotten. It never happened to me, but I know that it happened. I knew those girls in college. I know that every word these women say is true.
Those are college days that I didn’t want to remember.
pat
Well what will the MSM be reporting on this evening, the claim from Avanatti’s client or the unhinged tirade from the moron-in-chief.
Decisions, decisions…..
Adam L Silverman
As someone who worked on this for the US government, I can say this is correct!
raven
@Craig: All my in-laws are Hokies including my bride. I don’t think any of this shit has anything to do with any school in particular. It’s that frat shit.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Could have just stopped right there.
Adam L Silverman
@Immanentize: Acosta, Hallie Jackson, and Yamiche Alcindor did about as well as they could, given who they’re dealing with.
burnspbesq
@TenguPhule:
Goatpocalypse. Or the New York Jets.
TenguPhule
@TenguPhule: Also too brittle. They don’t use sword quality steel for those show blades.
MoxieM
I’m just reading the Jackal comments, but I can only think of: 100 monkeys typing, and producing gibberish. Or Gibbons typing.
Jay
@trollhattan:
Aikido, judo, jujitsu, any martial art that has a large component of:
– using the attackers mass and energy against them
– close quarters and ground work.
Untortunately a lot of women’s self defense classes focus on attacks by strangers,
and boxing is not much use when it’s the guy who’s shoulder you are leaning on, or the Coach correcting your form, who attacks you.
I taught my sister, my girlfriends, the girls who were my friends, close in dirty fighting, like grabbing hair and controlling the movement of the head, because the body always follows the head, short arm throat punches, nut shots, finger breaking, eye gouges, nose spikes, elbow strikes,………
TenguPhule
@burnspbesq:
Oh burn.
Roger Moore
@pat:
¿Por que no los dos?
lamh36
Steve in the ATL
@raven: easily one of the top ten colleges along the I-81 corridor in southwest Virginia
raven
@Steve in the ATL: It’s a pretty place.
Cacti
The whole thing reminded me of the final courtroom scene in The Caine Mutiny.
I was half expecting him to start mumbling about the mess boys and strawberries, and fish some ball bearings from his pocket to fidget with.
Adam L Silverman
@Jay: Yep.
Roger Moore
@TenguPhule:
A real Marine would use his K-bar.
jl
A lot of this stuff happened years ago, and will be impossible to arrive at a definitive answer about exactly what happened.
But the all the perjury happened quite recently, in his current and previous confirmation hearings.
Maybe it’s just me, but an addiction to perjury in and of itself is disqualifying for justice on SCOTUS.
MisterForkbeard
@Steve in the ATL: We keep it real in QA.
What else am I supposed to say after that? Is “Dawg” still cool? :P
@lamh36: How the hell is he still going? It’s like a stream of consciousness where the consciousness lives in a bull’s ass.
It’s a bullshit stream, is what I’m saying. Good lord, I need more sleep.
ET
When deep in a hole it is best to stop digging. He has been digging for over an hour.
lamh36
Dan B
@lamh36: Trump: I’m the victim of these women who were paid to accuse me.
Rich = victim
Powerful = victim
Thw worst nightmare of the wealthy. Not all wealthy but enough.
I’ve worked for wealthy people. There seemed to be two categories:
1. Got wealthy by creating a climate of fear that you would be hurt if you did not OBEY.
2. Got wealthy because they were great yo work for, treated people with respect, and made sure everyone benefitted. I wanted them to benefit because of their DECENCY.
This is not to say that they were not sharks on constant alert for transgressions. But they did not seem to exhibit the paranoia of the scary rich.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Other than the Mooch and Charlie Kirk?
Steve in the ATL
@jl: not just SCOTUS–he could actually be disbarred for that. But clearly god doesn’t love us that much.
tobie
@pat: i missed the news conference but NPR presented Trump’s remarks in the most favorable light, reporting his claim that the accusations were a Democratic hit job and quoting his remark that he was accused off assault by 4 or5 women and his team proved these were false charges but the media refused to acknowledge this. There’s a reason I stopped giving money to NPR. They suck.
Roger Moore
@MisterForkbeard:
There’s nothing Trump loves more than talking about himself. The real question is how to make him stop.
lamh36
Jeffro
@Roger Moore: oh SIGN ME UP (re: confiscatory tax rates)
Mandalay
Trump:
LOCK HER UP!!!
gene108
@Mandalay:
The $1.8 billion to Iran is right-wing gospel. We had frozen a bunch of their assets, in. 1979. As Iran’s banking system has been frozen out of the international banks get syste, due to sanctions, we returned their money to them in cash.
Right-wingers insinuate this is some sort of cash bribe of American taxpayer dollars to Iran.
Cheryl Rofer
Whew. It’s over. I’m gonna feed the cats now.
lamh36
Immanentize
Why do people believe those who say they were abused by priests, but not those who were assaulted by rich kids. I am NOT being facitious. What do y’all think? My students are curious
encephalopath
@TenguPhule:
Annealing and edging is too time consuming and expensive for a blade that’s just for show. There’s no reason you would do that.
pat
@Roger Moore:
But can they do justice to both? Oh heck, there’s nothing else to talk about is there. Can’t wait for Rachel Maddow, she always has lots of stuff that others don’t.
Cheryl Rofer
@lamh36: Nowhere near that coherent.
lamh36
hedgehog mobile
Has he talked about the strawberries yet?
lamh36
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@lamh36: Just ponder that. While most of us are seeing a train wreck, dementia, literal insanity… there are supporters seeing a “great job”. And somewhere Jon McNaughton is sketching his painting of Trump the Great Orator, surrounded by the admiring looks of Daniel Webster, William Jennings Bryan, Abraham Lincoln and possibly Martin Luther King Jr.
I just threw up a little typing that. But I have that reaction to McNaughton’s paintings anyway, so no biggie.
The Pale Scot
@Adam L Silverman:
Wha.. Not Adm. Fargut? Oh right, Army
Dan B
@TenguPhule: The woma Prof from Notre Dame is anti choice and anti birth control. She’s also a costituional originalist, so no Title 9 and probably limited civil rights ( don’t quote me on those). The saving grace is she might not defend Trump against impeachment / Mueller.
someone
@Craig:
It’s a big school and, like most schools, most people would never consider doing the things that a small number of people do. That said, I have heard several first-hand accounts of the drugging women for rape culture that was present there 15-20 years ago. I had a woman friend at the time who was saved because a male friend of hers finished her drink for her so they each only got half the dose and were able to get home. Scary stuff…
Jay
@raven:
Studies have shown that Campus’s that have Frat’s have 73% more rapes, ( that’s just the reported ones) and Frat Members are responsible for 82% of reported sexual assaults and rapes.
daryljfontaine
@TenguPhule:
Galt’s Goat Gulch?
D
Anotherlurker
@L85NJGT: Everything GOPigs do is a work.
raven
@Jay: I’ve lived in Champaign-Urbana and Athens for 47 years, you don’t have to tell me about frats.
lamh36
lamh36
satby
@Immanentize:
Because most of the priest abuse victims who have come forward are men. The accusations against Kavanaugh (and Trump) are women. The assumption that men wouldn’t admit to the humiliation of being a victim (like a woman) unless it was true is strong, but women are manipulating, lying birches intent on destroying good men. Exactly as the script has played out these last few days.
divF
@Rob in Hawaii: Also from Eye St., same era as you (late 60’s). I remember the drinking, particularly a problem with a liquor store and bar a block away and the DC drinking age of 18.
Mnemosyne
@venice:
Sister, you speak for me. ✊
TenguPhule
@encephalopath:
I’m just the messenger here.
TenguPhule
@hedgehog mobile:
Donald Trump doesn’t do unprocessed food.
lamh36
Dan B
@Adam L Silverman: This story of George Washington proposing to every cash rich woman in Virginia reminds me that customs and social norms change a lot. Constitutional originialists would have enormous difficulty navigating the customs of colonial America. They only use originalism as cover for their deep dislike of change and progress.
Barbara
@Immanentize: What makes you think people automatically do believe such allegations against priests? They might now, but that’s only after nearly 40 years of a continuous drip drip of one set of horrible situations coming to light after another. Many priests who were known to be accused had the support of the majority of parishioners, not to mention fellow priests and he hierarchy, and often, any civil authorities who had been contacted.
encephalopath
@TenguPhule:
I was just concurring with your assessment.
lamh36
@lamh36: who’s paying for this?
rikyrah
@Dan B:
They have literally binders full of Federalist Society approved judges ready to roll back the last 50 years of progress. But, few of them have a legal paper trail that says that the President is above the law, which is the only qualification that counted for Dolt45.
trollhattan
@Jay:
You’re kinda describing girls’ league soccer once they hit 14 or so. Some nasty shit going on, out of the ref’s view, of course. ;-)
Comedy aside, if someone’s drugged all the mad skills in the world are out of the picture.
TenguPhule
@daryljfontaine:
Well played.
TenguPhule
@encephalopath: My bad.
sm*t cl*de
@Adam L Silverman:
Could be that was intended as a Republican talking point for the elections – “The foreseen damage to the US economy resulting from Trump’s imbecilic policies is actually a Chinese intervention to help the democrats! They’re traitors!” – but Trump leaked it.
Mary G
@Barbara: Yes, the Catholic Church hid complaints for decades, and the few young men and boys who talked were tools of Satan or mentally ill or just conflating a fatherly pat on the back with assault for attention.
texasboyshaun
@VeniceRiley: Seriously? Stop it with the homophobic comments.
TenguPhule
Well, nobody sane can accuse our side of not following the rules here.
TenguPhule
For those of you who missed the goat demo derby.
Mary G
One MAGAt tries to spin:
The comments are all “I want to use the drugs you’re on,” asking if he is being sarcastic, asking if he is crazy. No one agreed as far as I went down.
TenguPhule
The script arrived. And yes, it was just as bad as we heard it.
Betty Cracker
Best synopsis I’ve seen of the presser so far:
Barbara
@Mary G: The ultimate white male privilege, to be graded on a curve that goes out to infinity.
TenguPhule
@Betty Cracker:
No need to sully Sesame Street like that.
Mandalay
@Immanentize:
This was discussed in the previous thread by Mnemosyne and others.
But to answer your question with a question, what makes you believe that your first sentence above is even true? Or are you deliberately raising a strawman your students (which is perfectly fine)?
Jay
@raven:
Just putting the stat’s up for anyone shopping for Colleges.
I always went to mixed schools, colleges and technical schools that barred all male groups and clubs, other than sports teams. There was also, no money in sports teams, so 5am practice before school, 5pm practice after school, 99% for the sport, 1% had a shot at a sports scholarship to the schools that paid. We had lots of mixed intermural sports.
My schools had a much different culture towards women.
To give you an idea, Heather ( last name redacted) was the biggest “bad ass” in my High School and the entire Football Team, ( I was a Running Back) were afraid of getting on her bad side. Getting a vicious beat down from a beautiful blonde, was a no go.
Expressions of toxic masculinity were mostly male on male in sports, carried over into the hallways or after school.
TenguPhule
Wapo is gonna need to break out extra digits for Trump’s lie counter just from this one speech.
Dorothy A. Winsor
We just watched this in a bar with the sound off and captioning on. Whoever was doing the captioning was doing it word for word. It was incomprehensible, like random words.
Dan B
@gene108: Am I alone in imagining a SNL skit where Alec Baldwin is in a fat suit that keeps enlarging and rage jiggling. Meanwhile stage right and left are Mazie Hirono and Sarah P* Sanders – or – Fact Checkers and Spinners who become increasingly manic.
* Possa-Queen. I getta say it cuase-a livin in Arkansas. Memories, aieeee!
Rob in Hawaii
@PAM Dirac: I grew up in the DC side of Chevy Chase. Almost all my grade school peers went to St. John’s or Gonzaga. However, a handful did end up at Georgetown Prep. Despite tribal differences, many of the DC area Catholic school boys did travel in the same social circles. Although we played GPrep in sports, their social strata was a bridge too far for mixing middle class with upper middle class. Of course no Holton Arms or Stone Ridge girls at our parties!
I’m sure you’re right about the riots in ’68. They stoked a lot of fears in suburban WhiteLandia. Perhaps things changed after they got the new gym and stadium.
Jay
@trollhattan:
Yup, drugs are a big deal.
The thing about martial arts, is they turn rehearsed moves into muscle memory.
I havn’t trained in aikido in 20 years, and both times I had to use it, were long after training, and both times, it went perfectly.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
It’s like no one had even thought of a two-state solution until he waltzed into the room!
Dan B
@rikyrah: But, but, but, sputter, sputter! The Federalist “Binders full of women.” Seems sorta thin. Not sure. Don’t wanna check the numbers.
It’s a small consolation that the Federalist Society checklist doesn’t include neo-royalists.
debbie
@Immanentize:
Because boys will be boys. Fitful youth and all that.
Rob in Hawaii
@Adam L Silverman: SJ = Soldiers of Jesus! Their reach is far and wide. I do, for one, expect the Spanish Inquisition. As I was told endlessly, “Give us the boy; we’ll return the man.” Never said which kind of man it would be…
feebog
Have you ever watched a multi-car pileup in the fog where car after car slams into the pile? That’s what this press conference was like.
debbie
@Mandalay:
Also Obama’s birth certificate.
It’s very frustrating that the press doesn’t push back harder on garbage like this. Don’t politely ask to be allowed a follow up; demand to know why he’s lying.
debbie
@lamh36:
Those photos! Wow!
debbie
@satby:
It’s also minimizing the bad acts. Remember “It’s just twenty minutes of action”?
Mnemosyne
@Immanentize:
Because most of the people who have come forward about being abused by priests are men, and most of the people who have come forward about being assaulted by rich kids are women.
Also, there are still a whole lot of Protestants who think the Catholic Church is intrinsically evil and not actually Christian, so they love any evidence of their own righteous religious beliefs.
Rob in Hawaii
@Steve in the ATL: Boorish louts on parade in Galway (home of my ancestors!). At least Gonzaga’s product is consistent!
Dan B
@VeniceRiley: The Elders of LGBTQI determined at our last assembly that Lindsey is not yet eligible for release from the Closet of Doom.
However the motion for supporting the Women’s Gymnastic team passed on an overly excited voice vote. And was duly noted.
The Pale Scot
@opiejeanne:
Why do you go? I FaceTime old friends that I keep in touch with, I don’t really care to know what the other ones are doing. ’cause they are likely RWNJs
Dan B
@Rob in Hawaii: Kavanaugh and a lot of our creepiest creeps want to turn society into big glorious high school. Most of the Federslist Society want to turn the US into 18th century paradise, with cars.
El Caganer
For the benefit of Mr. Kurd
Donald Trump will lay a turd
In Washington.
I don’t think I want to follow that any further down the road.
KithKanan
@Mnemosyne: Also too, a certain kind of misogynist that’s all too common in our culture thinks things like “Anyone who would sign up for the whole vow of celibacy thing probably can’t find a willing partner anyway. Women throw themselves at guys with money, so why would a rich guy need to rape?”
Booger
@Roger Moore: but it did have “Classical Gas” as a single, dinnit?
Rob in Hawaii
@divF: Yes, alcohol was a huge part of DC Catholic boys’ high schools in the 60s. (Class of ’70 here.) I had a fake draft card when I was 16 (and looked 11), so liquor stores and dive bars were part of my education. (And for decades later.) Now, as I write this, I’m sitting in my broiling hot classroom trying to get the current crop of high schoolers woke about how to be in the modern world. But i’m finding that those old cultural norms of yore are hard to erase.
misterpuff
@Mandalay: President Cliff Clavin
tybee
@celticdragonchick:
i kept asking ms.tybee those exact words all the way through that fustercluck
VOR
I have a theory that Trump actually believes all those women are lying about accusing he, Donald J. Trump, of sexual assault. Remember, He is Donald J. Trump. Women adore him, men want to be him. He had top ratings, the very best, for The Apprentice. Women are constantly coming up to him because they all love him. Therefore he has no need to assault women, especially any who aren’t a 10, so the accusations must be false. They are just trying to leech off the fame of He, Donald J. Trump.
Anotherlurker
@Mandalay: When I was molested by a priest, in 8th grade, I mentioned to my parents what happened. I told friends about it, too.
I was told that Father Soave was a man of god and that I must have been exagerating. I was also told that guys always grab at each other in locker rooms.
I was convinced that I must have been wrong and that I was truly a failure, blaming a good man.
So no, back in the day, the accusations were often denegraded and dismissed.
James E Powell
@celticdragonchick:
I am blocked by Fournier and I cannot imagine why. Not that it matters, but it is a curious thing.
James E Powell
@opiejeanne:
In the middle of the week?
Gelfling 545
@Roger Moore: aha! Fake news!
Elizabelle
@VOR: That sounds about right.
Missed the whole press conference. Was out canvassing and finding enthusiastic Democratic voters. I feel minty!
WaterGirl
@Elizabelle: I could only listen for about 5 seconds, then i just read the BJ thread in real time.
Sounded like he was mostly babbling incoherently and rambling for 75-90 minutes.
Aleta
@Anotherlurker: I’m so sorry this happened and that everyone then denied the truth, made you feel to blame, when you were not one bit responsible.
opiejeanne
@The Pale Scot: I go because I haven’t seen some of them in 50 years and none of them in 30 years, some that I was very fond of were coming. And surprise! None of them tonight were RWNJs.
It was a swell party, we all got a little weepy at the photos of those who are gone now, there was food, there was wine, there was free booze. And music and a video of the marching band. There was a table of band geeks and we had a hilarious time. And the “Important People” did not run it so everyone felt welcome.
opiejeanne
@James E Powell: We’re all 68 years old. The vast majority of the survivors are retired, so we got a better rate mid-week.
My husband did the math, 17% have shuffled off this mortal coil. I don’t know why the actuarial tables say about that.