NFL Open Thread

I don’t care but you might.

104 replies
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    patrick II says:

    I will care starting about 4:30 Eastern time. So as usual I will be posting something at the tail end of a dead thread. Go Bears!

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    SRW1 says:

    I don’t care but you might.

    Come sit by me.

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    debit says:

    I took a break between ripping up carpet and pulling staples to see the Bills are destroying the Vikings 17-0 at the end of the first quarter. So no, I don’t care.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Our last full day on Nantucket. We strolled around Sconset for about an hour, had Sunday brunch (cocktails), and will do a car tour of the island this afternoon — seeing lighthouses and beaches — followed by lobster dinner. Been a great escape from reality.

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    West of the Rockies says:


    24-nil now.

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    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S) says:


    ripping up carpet and pulling staples

    I did that 18 years ago. It seemed like whenever I thought I was done another staple would show up hours or even days later.

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    West of the Rockies says:

    @Mike in NC:

    Have you bumped into poor, lonely Alan Dershowitz yet, wandering down the beach? (… With a metal detector… big, ol’ shorts…)

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    Pharniel says:

    @debit – Hey, it’s cool. The Sunday night game is going to be the Pats utterly annihilating the Lions.

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    raven says:

    @Mike in NC: How’d ya like the Whaling Museum?

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    TomatoQueen says:

    @West of the Rockies: Dershowitz is Martha’s Vineyard.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    A question about playing fields in the NFL: do they have undersoil heating like most professional football pitches do in Europe?

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    raven says:

    I never thought I turn the sound off of a football game to listen and watch golf! Go Tiger!

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    Jeffro says:

    Mahomes on a ma-roll today, again!

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    Catherine D. says:

    @YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S): Ugh, in my house the idiots put the carpeting down with nails. Took me forever to get the floors ready for refinishing.

    They also used roofing nails on the living room ceiling and finishing nails on the bedroom ceiling. Twas quite a surprise when the spare bedroom ceiling collapsed at 4 am after a week of roofing and new blown-in insulation.

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    jacy says:

    Only 10 days until hockey!

    (this has been your How-Many-Days-Until-Hockey update.)

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    Mike in NC says:

    @raven: Outstanding whaling museum. I never made it to the New Bedford museum, but many years ago saw a similar museum in (I think) New Haven or someplace nearby which had a preserved whaler.

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    West of the Rockies says:


    I know, but hasn’t the poor dear been shunned there? I thought perhaps he may have moved to friendlier climes.

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    West of the Rockies says:

    @Mike in NC:

    When I was last I’m Mystic, I was the only person on the old whaling ship there (the Morgan, I believe). Such a palpable sense of history…

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    It was my niece’s birthday today, her daughter’s is tomorrow so I went round to see them and delivered cards and the birthday baked goodies. Amy (my niece) just got out of the hospital after a very serious asthma attack. She was in the hospital for 8 days. I cannot imagine that happening in the US. My husband was discharged after four days after a major heart attack. Just goes to show what a WASTE OF MONEY!!!!! a socialist government run health care system is. /s/

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    Doug R says:

    So how’s that kneeling/not kneeling thing working out so far? Haven’t watched any games (ok, I glanced at a minute or two about 4 times this year). Would like to watch the Seahawks….

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    Keith P. says:

    Damn, do the Texans SUCK this year! They have *everyone* back PLUS Tyrann Mathieu, and they’re getting handled by the friggin’ Giants. And this is after losing to Blaine Gabbert.

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    Geoduck says:

    @Doug R: You want to watch the Seahawks? Following their moment in the sun, they are pretty much back to being.. well.. Seahawks.

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    debit says:

    @YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S): I don’t even mind the tedium and physical discomfort. It’s the floor itself. The house was built in the 40’s, so the flooring was a nice oak. But, it looks like decades of water damage and/or pet stains. And when they put the carpet in a couple years ago, they left the old padding, which has stuck to the floor where the damage was the worst. I’m now wondering if it’s even possible to save it. It’s either black or grey from about two feet out of the perimeter. I don’t know how I’m going to live with it until mid October when the floor guys are going to refinish it.

    God, why did I think this was a good idea?

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    debit says:

    Also, I think it’s hysterical that the Vikings are being utterly destroyed by the BIlls. I work with a rabid Vikings fan who was openly gloating about how we were going to probably win 50 something to 0. I warned her that it never works out that way for us, but she didn’t listen. I knew better than to even turn on the game; I just check google every now and again for the score, shake my head and get back to work.

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    Pogonip says:

    When did Cole give up sportsball?

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    raven says:

    @Pogonip: Here’s a hint

    New book excerpt: Trump urged Roethlisberger to escort Daniels to room instead of bodyguards

    “‘He stood outside, not leaving,'” Daniels said of Roethlisberger. “Every now and again he’d knock, rapping his knuckles in a line low along the door. ‘Come onnnn,’ he repeated in a singsong voice. ‘I won’t tell.'”
    Daniels said she was shaken by the experience.
    “I was terrified. I am rarely terrified,” she writes.

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    patrick II says:


    Mahomes already has three touchdown passes today — 13 for the season so far. Each one makes me cry just a little.

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    raven says:

    @patrick II: Ryan looks pretty good today!

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    LuciaMia says:

    For you New Yorkers:
    Sorry to say that it looks like Trump will be inflicting himself in your area this week.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @West of the Rockies: It’s like making Ike jokes…

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Amir Khalid: A good deal of them aren’t even soil anymore, especially in cold climates. It’s advanced artificial turf now.

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    lamh36 says:

    Yeah…this is some weak sauce here…

    What 17 year old right a party down on a calendar oh and they kept for what 35 years…

    let me guess, it says “PART-EY” in big red letters w/circle round it… 🙄

    Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don’t show a party that matches Blasey Ford’s description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can’t prove it didn’t happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

    5m5 minutes ago
    The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.

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    patrick II says:


    Yeah, but the Bears didn’t give up draft choices to draft Trubisky ahead of Ryan.

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    lamh36 says:

    uh huh…

    Ed Whelan on “leave of absence” following his conspiracy theory about Christine Blasey Ford’s sexual-assault allegation against Kavanaugh

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    raven says:

    @patrick II: No but the Cubbies traded Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio!

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    *snork* Kavaunaugh is now claiming he has a calendar that will show he wasn’t at the party in question and he will hand it over to the Senate next week. Just look at the reactions on twitter to see how many levels of absurd there are to unwrap in that little nugget of obvious horseshit.

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    frosty says:

    @debit: “God, why did I think this was a good idea?“

    Home Ownership in 10 words or less.

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    B.B.A. says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Check the kerning.

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    @debit: We had a similar situation in our last house. Nice hardwood floors from the ’20s covered by carpets. Pulled ’em up and found padding that had been peed on repeatedly and then recovered with new carpet. The floor underneath looked hopeless but after being sanded only a little stain remained and after finishing you didn’t really notice.

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    WhatsMyNym says:


    She was in the hospital for 8 days. I cannot imagine that happening in the US. My husband was discharged after four days after a major heart attack.

    Hospital Infection rates are high, even in the UK. They get you out as fast as they can. I was out 4 days after my brain surgery.
    Her asthma probably needed monitoring longer.

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    lamh36 says:


    3m3 minutes ago
    So after spending most of the week at the White House, the best Team Kavanaugh could come up with are calendars from 1982? Sounds legit.

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    Doug R says:

    @Geoduck: Hey, living in the PNW, it’s a circular season. Mariners are out of the wild card race, so it’s Seahawks-they start sucking, it’s Canucks-when they get mathematically eliminated, it’s the BC LIons or the Mariners again….

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    Mart says:

    I don’t care, do you?

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    Mary G says:

    @debit: Wood floors don’t show pet hair nearly as much, so you’ll like it when it’s finally done.

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    patrick II says:

    That’s alright, when I was 28 I moved to St. Louis. Could never get attached to their football teams though.

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    Ruemara says:

    Kinda still butthurt about the Jets losing

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    WaterGirl says:

    @lamh36: Christine Blasey Ford wasn’t exactly sure which of two years it was. So all this calendars stuff is bullshit.

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    debit says:

    @John Revolta: I hope you’re right. My finisher’s idea was to leave them natural/blondish, but if we have to go dark to deal with the staining, that’s fine. I knew there was something going on under the carpet, because it was new when I bought the place, but on damp days there was a faint moldy dog smell.

    @Mary G: That’s why I have a roomba. :)

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Mart: heh. I quit the NFL when they effed up the kneeling issue so effing badly.

    Go Dawgs!

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    debbie says:

    I don’t care much for golf, but I have to say Tiger’s looking great!

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    Chyron HR says:


    No, look, he wrote “Didn’t go to the party where the guy who looks just like me raped Christine Blasey Ford” on every day of every page. Case closed.

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    YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S) says:

    @debit: We had a floor refinishing that cleaned it up nicely, We left the bedrooms alone and put down large area rugs that covered the remaining stains. I did get some oak flooring to replace a small section that hadn’t had any before but became exposed with the other remodeling.. I still have a bunch since I had to buy a bundle.

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    Duane says:

    @lamh36: That calendar dodge is laughable. Stinks of desperation. Romney’s got binders of women too. Looks like Kavenaugh’s got a new nickname. Tell us about it, Calendar Boy!

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    Duane says:

    @debbie: I don’t care much for Tiger either. His behavior towards women was too much. Hope he never wins again.

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    Baud says:


    I’m still curious about the “any other time” part of his orginal denial. Release all the calendars!

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    Raven says:

    @Duane: Yea well he’s going to win in about 30 minutes all the hoping in the world doesn’t mean shit.

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    Cermet says:

    @WaterGirl: Well, if Ford wasn’t sure which of two years it occurred, yet Kavanaug has a calendar for a specific year, then that tends to prove he did assault her. How else would be know which year it was? That is more of a confession then most TV shows use for convictions!

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    Aleta says:

    Is that the 1982 calendar his parents bought him at Christmas ’81 so he could write his games and events down for them to look at? Where did he record his official Treasurer’s tally for the 100 Kegs or Bust club?

    (Btw, did the Treasurer buy the kegs and collect dues and book and pay the stripper? Did he keep doing that job into adulthood using his credit cards?)

    If I get an unused 1982 calendar off ebay and write down “Drinking with Brett Kav. and Mark Judge, location TBD” once or twice for every week, plus a few “Buy Shoes” “Braces Off!” “Decorate Gym” “Lost Retainer” entries and the name of a randomly chosen student on the back, does that count as evidence?

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    @debit: @YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S): Yeah this is another way to go…….
    if necessary you can move around sections of floor to hide whatever might be left. But the sanding will likely take care of most of it.

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    raven says:

    @John Revolta: I have old heart pine that have been refinished with oil and I used hemp soaked in linseed oil in the cracks.

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    Duane says:

    @Raven: That will be his first win in forever. He’s a jackass. Hope he never wins again.

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    debbie says:


    He’s paid for it (I’m not talking about money), and by all appearances, appears remorseful. Good enough for me. That shot out of the sand trap on the 8th was just like the old days.

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    raven says:

    @Duane: Gee dickhead. you really know your golf don’t you?

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    raven says:

    @debbie: Fuck this douche.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Chyron HR: You’re right. My mistake!

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    Ruckus says:

    Well there’s this list of women that say he didn’t sexually assault them…..
    Of course he’s going for the same defense. Here are a bunch of calendars that show he couldn’t have been at the party that he knows nothing about……

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    WaterGirl says:


    That is more of a confession then most TV shows use for convictions!

    Isn’t that the truth!

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    Duane says:

    @raven: Golf not so much, but I recognize a douche when I see one.

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    lamh36 says:

    If he really kept calendars from 30+ years ago he gotta be a serial killer too. Look for the notebooks filled with tiny, almost unintelligible writing.

    4:23 PM – Sep 23, 2018

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    lamh36 says:

    i’m amazed that someone would actually hold on to calendars from their high school years.

    but it would be even more amazing if he put down the boozy parties he was going to attend IN HIS CALENDAR

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    lamh36 says:

    9m9 minutes ago
    BREAKING- Kavanaugh’s team has a Red Solo Cup from every party Brett attended from 1979-1983 but does not have a cup from the party Ford has described.

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    Geoduck says:

    @Steve in the ATL: I manage to quit actively watching NFL games, but for me it was the concussion issue rather than the kneeling debate.

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    lamh36 says:

    4m4 minutes ago
    If Kavanaugh had the calendar all along he would’ve told us on day one.

    Additionally who put parties on their calendar at age 17?

    This whole thing looks like a charade vs dr. Ford’s methodical steps to corroborate her story.

    4m4 minutes ago
    Mark Judge was there and is an eyewitness but Kavanaugh is not asking for him to testify. Why??

    4m4 minutes ago
    This is the brightest red flag in the entire story. There is not normally an eyewitness. In this case there is one that is friends WITH THE ACCUSED Kavanaugh but they don’t want him to testify?

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    Aleta says:

    A question if you feel like it: On a high ceiling of narrow tongue and groove old wood, probably pine, what might explain white streaks along the grain in different places? (100 yr old building, probably local pine milled there, just one big room inside, no insulation.)

    I’ve had an hvac running as a dehumidifier for the last two summers, and winters are cold, no heat, so I don’t think it’s humidity/mildew.

    Does white ever show up on old wood for natural reasons, like old sap coming out, or salt from salt air, or wood that grew near salt water?

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    dexwood says:

    No teens anywhere ever had an impromptu party when alcohol and opportunity offered a roaring chance. I mean, how could it be possible? It isn’t on a calendar.

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    patrick II says:

    I have been watching and enjoying a lot of NFL games today. The big difference is that players are tackling with their shoulders to the body of the opposing player instead of helmet-to-helmet hits. I was so tired of seeing players laying nearly unconscious on the field and had been watching much less football. Shoulder to body is enough violence for me, if not for the old die-hard manly let’s see somebody really hurt fans.
    Between that and some stellar play from younger quarterbacks, I might start watching more NFL football again.

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    raven says:

    @Aleta: I would think it is moisture related but, if I were you, I’d check with Ozark when you see him here. He’s a real carpenter and he knows his shit.

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    raven says:

    @Duane: Whatever

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    raven says:

    This is cool as shit, looks like the Haj!

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    raven says:

    YAY TIGER!!!!@!!@

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    Duane says:

    @raven: Right on. Just talking sports.

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    West of the Rockies says:


    I agree. He cheated on his wife. Over and over and over again. I know a woman who was knocked to the floor by his bodyguards. It was accidental, but Tiger walked by and said nothing to her after seeing it happen. Douche move.

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    Tazj says:

    @lamh36: Red flag is right. They’ve been complaining about how difficult it is to defend against such charges. Now there’s a witness placed in the room who could deny what she has said and he refuses to be interviewed.
    Roger Stone et al. have perfected the art of lying about people’s pasts, searching their garbage and stealing their emails to try and discredit them and now someone comes forward with a credible accusation and right wingers are beside themselves with outrage.

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    West of the Rockies says:


    I hope it backfires on them. They are vile.

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    Duane says:

    @patrick II: The new rules are helping. The players, and refs, will adjust as you pointed out. They have to or people will quit watching, and parents won’t let their children participate.

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    James E Powell says:

    Tiger Woods’s philandering cost him his wife, sponsorships, money, respect, and fans. Some people will never forgive him, but he has done the work to recover. All reports are that he and his ex get along well and work together to raise the children. He’s battled through injuries and surgeries to regain something of his former status on the tour. Do we really want to have a world where there is no such thing as redemption?

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    debbie says:


    Say he did keep the calendars. What the hell for? The Smithsonian?— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) September 23, 2018

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    raven says:

    @Duane: Nuthin but a thang!

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    West of the Rockies says:

    @James E Powell:

    I’m all for redemption, truly. Perhaps I am uninformed, but I can’t think of any solid show of great kindness by Woods. Lebron (who is a stellar person by most accounts and has nothing he needs to redeem himself over) started a school. Woods has golfed with Trump and seems pretty neutral on the subject of the president. I don’t see any reason to cheer him.

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    lamh36 says:

    Follow Follow @yashar
    From the Drudge Report. This has been brewing all day with several rumors going around about a potential story. I won’t share them now.

    Two White House sources have confirmed to me that they are aware of a potential story.

    Ronan Farrow and Jane Meyer working on a story?

    ooohhh…Avenatti tweeted something that bascially alluding to there being more coming up…

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    Raven says:

    @West of the Rockies: So don’t, who cares?

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    West of the Rockies says:


    So cheer him. Who cares?

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    The Thin Black Duke says:

    @West of the Rockies: Woods has always been aggressively non-political, unfortunately. Unless it benefited him personally, civil rights wasn’t a big concern for him. Great athlete, but not an exceptional human being otherwise.

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    Raven says:

    @West of the Rockies: Well apparently you do.

    Here’s his foundation.

    We are unwavering advocates for the transformative power of education.

    We have humble beginnings and a universal vision: giving students in need the right resources for lifelong success in school, their communities and the working world. We don’t allow our students to exist with the labels or restrictions or stigmas. We empower them to exceed any and all expectations.

    Through our award-winning STEM curricula, college-access programs and teacher professional development, the TGR Foundation offers underserved students the tools and support needed to thrive in school and beyond.

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    debbie says:


    My favorite response in that thread:

    Ronan Farrow is like Freddy Kruger to old white predators……..1,2 Freddy’s coming for you…..3,4 better lock your door………..— Sarah Elvins-Speirs (@saralicious77) September 23, 2018

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    WaterGirl says:

    @lamh36: You are the queen of gifs.

    Is the gif on that thread of the guy leaning back in his chair and shoveling popcorn in his mouth from a movie? Or is he someone famous? You have to remember that i didn’t know who “lawn chair guy” was. :-)

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    lamh36 says:

    @WaterGirl: it’s something with Jason Mamoa…I can’t recall where its from though…I want to say a sketch show?

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    WaterGirl says:

    @lamh36: I just googled Jason Mamoa and he must be the lawn chair guy. I’m wondering who the shoveling popcorn in his mouth guy is. I liked his style.

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    West of the Rockies says:


    That’s nice.

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