Satire-day Morning Open Thread: Too. Much. News.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    For the non-insomniacs among us, Blech.

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) next week will test the Emergency Alert System, which allows the President to address Americans via text message in the event of a national emergency.

    Yet one more reason to never read texts.

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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    p.a. says:

    Good morn all.
    “The President did nothing that he personally recognizes as wrong, wrong.” Fixt.

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    Jr says:

    Remember when the wingbutscwaxed poetic about government overreach and tyranny?

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    J R in WV says:

    since I get no signal at home, the phone is 98% of the time turned off. I don’t get messages.

    Once I was in Houston in a rental truck, with my phone on to find next address for errands. Suddenly an Amber Alert broadcast msg was on the phone, then I recognized it described my rental truck down to the plate number…someone spoofed a connection to my phone well enough to put that Amber Alert on my phone.

    Scary at first!!!

    I stay away from messages!

    Hi All! G’night back to bed while it’s still dark…

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    I watched Hannity last night — he was visibly depressed and saying the investigation is really a CIA plot against Drumpf.

    HA!

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    raven says:

    After the great Rose Bowl game I swore I was going to go to every Georgia game I could while I still have my F/S tickets. Now I’m looking at miserable heat for a miserable game with Middle Tennessee and I’m hedging big time!

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    JPL says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: I’m not sure why you tortured yourself, but thanks!
    Cohen is talking to Mueller, and I wonder if he’ll share information about Hannity with him? That might cause Hannity some concern.

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Couldn’t happen to a more worthless asshole.

    @raven: Heh.

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    JPL says:

    @raven: I can’t say that I blame you. Add about ten degrees because of a crowded stadium, and it will be balmy.

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    So just over a week ago, we were brutally reminded of how spoiled we have become as citizens of the golden age of household technology, an age where we live comfortably in a house that is heated or cooled to our comfort, no matter the season. And an era where if we want to heat up our coffee or tea, or reheat some leftovers, or quickly thaw that steak from the freezer, we just pop it in the microwave.

    Which miracle device decided to die a week ago in our kitchen. Talk about culture shock.

    I often muse that much that goes to the roots of the American dissociation from reality that seems to have infested our national consciousness is a result of the cocoon of comfort in which most Americans live. Most of us live in safe houses, kept warm or cool to our taste, we don’t have to worry about the rain getting us wet, or where our next meal is coming from. We watch TV, which for decades has been dominated by “reality shows,” and yes, that is in quotes, because they are anything but reality, they were just a cheaper way to produce pablum for the masses. As a result, we now have an incompetent product of that TV wasteland as our president.

    Go figure.

    All of the above is one of the reasons we cut the TV cord over a decade ago, with zero regrets. If you have the Internet, Netlflix, Amazon Prime, Acorn TV, and MHZChoice and a Roku player, you have access to so much a la carte entertainment you will never thirst for a couple of hours of relaxation.

    But living without that microwave is turning out to be a real downer. A new one is on order from Lowes, will arrive in about five or six days. Found an 800 dollar plus Kitchenaide on sale for almost half price and free shipping, and Consumer Reports gave the brand high marks for not falling apart in the first five years of use. Which is a whole other discussion sometime, the old microwave was 20 plus years old and still working till it finally died.

    I guess we will just have to continue to rough it till the new one arrives.

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    bystander says:

    …President’s legal team put out an initial statement that said: “the President did nothing wrong and Paul Manafort will tell the truth.” Minutes later, they put out a new statement that said simply: “the President did nothing wrong.”

    When I read this, I picture Rudi rushing out with the first statement, forgetting their cooperation agreement has been broken, and Sekulow calling Rudi a moronic, malpracticing idiot, right before the correct version is issued. Hilarity ensued.

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    Raven says:

    @JPL: yea, the Austin Peay game was awful, I made it till the end of the third and most of the place had emptied. I may just leave my truck in my old standby spot and decide closer to noon.

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    I’ve been working on a composite, this one was difficult. In addition to adding the Milky Way to the sky, I had to turn day into night…the California State Capitol under the Milky Way.

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    From my morning twitter stream:

    Next Thursday, FEMA will do its first test of a system that allows the president to send a message to most U.S. cellphones. https://t.co/VyUoegiJgu— NBC News (@NBCNews) September 15, 2018

    Why does FEMA hate us?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @HeartlandLiberal: The horror!

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    RedDirtGirl says:

    Gd mrng…Not really awake yet. Hoping to sleep a few more hours. Catch y’all in a later thread.

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    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Same reason my landlord hates me, we want them to do their job.

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    Bruuuuce says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Very nice. Why did you choose to shoot the Capitol in daylight, rather than using an authentic night shot? I can think of a number of possible reasons, but am curious about yours.

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    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: better put…we EXPECT them to do their job.

    Can we haz an edit function?

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    Bruuuuce says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Thank you. That was on the list. I also thought that there was possibly some difference of appearance (they might light it unfavorably), that the security would have been a problem at night, hat you wanted to do the blue effect rather than have night shadows, or about four or five other things.

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    @Bruuuuce: I would have preferred to use a real night shot, but I was on a 7pm plane back to the southland. So I worked with what I had and looked at night shots to get the building’s lighting right.

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    HeleninEire says:

    @bystander: This begs the question: Is the movie gonna be a tragedy or a comedy?

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    The president’s legal team put out an initial statement that said: “the President did nothing wrong and Paul Manafort will tell the truth.” Minutes later, they put out a new statement that said simply: “the President did nothing wrong.”

    Good to know they’re having as much trouble keeping up as we are.

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    NotMax says:

    @HeartlandLiberal

    800 clams for a microwave?

    Boy, am I ever out of touch.

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    Can we haz an edit function?

    I figure the reason we don’t is that Alain et al. have their hands full keeping the site duct-taped together, but I miss that too. Somehow my last comment (#26) ended up in a quote box, and normally I’d just fix it on edit, but now I’m stuck with it.

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    germy says:

    Since the edit function went away, the number of balloon-juice comments have doubled.

    “I meant the instead of teh above”, etc’

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    NotMax says:

    the President did nothing wrong.

    Not in the least surprised. Even doing nothing, he does it wrong.

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    Bruuuuce says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: It is, as I said, lovely work. (And I do Photoshop work as part of my professional life doing graphics supporting investment bankers, though these days I seem to build maps most of the time.) Well done.

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    @NotMax:

    800 clams for a microwave?

    Must be one of the over-the-stove jobbies. They’re a pain in the neck to install and remove because they’re heavy and in an awkward place, so you want one that’ll last.

    We had one that died ~5 years ago, and when we got bogged down in making a decision of what new one we wanted, we bought a $60 countertop microwave, picked up a cheap microwave cart to put it on, and it’s still working fine for us. And if it goes, we get another $60 nuker.

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    germy says:

    Amber Alerts are scary enough, now we have to deal with Tangerine Alerts from a raving madman. He'll be blasting out alerts screaming "NO COLLUSION!" every five minutes
    — Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) September 15, 2018

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    debit says:

    @germy: There’s got to be a way to opt out, a setting in your phone.

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    Platonailedit says:

    The biggest victim of Hurricane Maria is Donald Trump.— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) September 15, 2018

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    germy says:

    @debit: There should be.

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    Mary says:

    FEMA and the FCC have done pre-planned nationwide tests of the Emergency Alert System for the past two years and periodically before that. Expanding the nationwide test to the Wireless Emergency Alert system is not some Trumpian power grab.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: @low-tech cyclist: The over the stove jobbies are also vents, and while heavy they aren’t really all that hard to install (if you know what you’re doing) ( ;-) ). The biggest problem I had with the install of mine was the ducting for the vent (long story short, I had to construct custom ducting for it from microwave to outside exhaust, no big deal for a tinner but this carpenter was plenty pleased with himself when it all worked as planned).

    In some kitchens a countertop MW just will not work, such is ours.

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    Lapassionara says:

    @NotMax: Good one.

    Good morning, everyone. Am I the only one concerned about Manafort’s safety just now?

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    JPL says:

    @Mary: The problem appears to be that we are talking about President Trump sending out a text. He’s not normal. just sayin

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debit: It’s called the “Off” button. ;-)

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    JPL says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I have a convection oven/microwave built in.

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    Immanentize says:

    @germy: don’t forget to include in your count all the ‘whining about the site’ comments.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax: You really should send that one to Colbert

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    debit says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: For Thursday, sure. But for the next two years? Even I, Crabby Hermit in a Cave, sometimes crave the sound of another human voice. Just not his.

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    Platonailedit says:

    @Mary: With the totus thug, it always is.

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    Mary says:

    @JPL: He’s not sending it out. FEMA is sending out a pre-written message. I feel confident that Trump has no idea that this is even a thing.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Lapassionara: Can’t speak for others but I’m not. You play with fire long enough you’re bound to get burned. His wife? Well, she did marry him. And stay married to him.

    His children? It’s not their fault Daddy is a scumball mf’er. The son/daughter should not have to pay for the sins of the father.

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    Phylllis says:

    @debit: I believe I read somewhere that there is not an ‘opt out’ option.

    School districts have been asked to coordinate drills “since learning time will likely be disrupted” per the release I received.

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    debit says:

    @Lapassionara: Not especially. I don’t think it’s going to be easy to get to him where he is right now. On a strictly callous note, I’m fairly positive that he’s already given up the big stuff. Remember how there was a rumor he was going for a deal and Mueller said “thanks, but no thanks”? I suspect Manafort tried to offer some small time bullshit that Mueller already had.

    So, in the short term I think he’s okay. Long term, I’ll admit to not really caring if he dies after being drained dry. Have you read the texts between his daughters about how he treated their mother?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debit:

    Even I, Crabby Hermit in a Cave, sometimes crave the sound of another human voice.

    Well that’s when you turn it back on, to make a phone call. There are times I give serious consideration to just that, only turning it on when I want to talk to someone.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) next week will test the Emergency Alert System, which allows the President to address Americans via text message in the event of a national emergency.

    The test alert, which will be sent at 2:18 p.m. ET on Sept. 20, will note that it’s a test of the system. At that time, all cell phone within the range of a cell tower will receive the message.

    Kingsman was a fun movie but this seems a little too on the nose.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Phylllis:

    I read somewhere that there is not an ‘opt out’ option.

    But there is always the “Ignore” option.

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    HinTN says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: I don’t care what they say, you do good work.

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    HinTN says:

    @NotMax:

    800 clams for a microwave?

    It has an edit function.

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    HinTN says:

    @HinTN: OOPS, can I has one, please?

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    HinTN says:

    @low-tech cyclist: I knew I didn’t do that!

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    Kay says:

    I’m doing concessions at the JV football game today. They don’t have many come to the JV games but the concession profits go to the music programs and our music program juniors and seniors are going to a Disney music education workshop which is a little pricey for us, but supposedly high quality, so we need everyone to eat a lot at these games :)

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    debit says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: In all seriousness, I just decline a lot of calls or keep my phone on DND. People can leave me a voice mail and I’ll call back or text when it’s a good time for me. For all the convenience of cell phones, they seem to have fostered an expectation of open availability at all times. No. Leave me a voice mail. And I don’t know your number and you don’t leave a voice mail, you’re blocked.

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    NotMax says:

    @HinTN

    Well played.

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    debbie says:

    I only have a dumb phone, and now I’m very happy about that.

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    debbie says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    People will get nothing other than a million texts of Trump extolling himself. I’d sue FEMA to stop this.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debit: Same here.

    they seem to have fostered an expectation of open availability at all times.

    Dawg, is that ever true. And I love it when people complain to me when they can’t get a hold of me.

    “Where were you? I was calling all day!”

    “At home, ignoring you.”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debbie: I refuse to have a phone that is smarter than I.

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    @NotMax:

    @low-tech cyclist: The over the stove jobbies are also vents, and while heavy they aren’t really all that hard to install (if you know what you’re doing) ( ;-) ).

    “If you know what you’re doing” is covering a lot of ground there. I’m always glad when there are people like you around who know what to do in situations where my own middlin’ competencies with tools and household repairs are exceeded.

    In some kitchens a countertop MW just will not work, such is ours.

    Tru dat, and when that happens, you do what you gotta do.

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    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us? says:

    @Raven: Austin Peay has the best cheer in all of college basketball…the Fly is open, let’s go Peay!

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    Kay says:

    @debbie:

    I stayed out of it for years but I love them now. I use it for everything. Calendar, notes, reminders, voice recordings- my teenage clients take photographs of all their docs and forms and things which I now do too. I basically just adopt everything they do. I get a kick out of how horribly patronizing they are when they show me- they speak really slowly and they have this weary, put-upon look. I know…words. I can follow directions!

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    Ken says:

    @Mary: I don’t think anyone’s objecting to a nationwide emergency text alert system, just to letting Trump have access to it.

    It’s like the emoluments clause, or security checks for all WH staff, or Presidential record-keeping requirements. We haven’t realized how many of these things only worked because the previous office holders have been responsible adults.

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    NotMax says:

    While not everyone’s cup of shtick, noting that TCM will be showing three Ritz Brothers movies in a row on Sunday, from 8 p.m. through to 12:25 a.m.

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    Kay says:

    @rikyrah:

    It’s not bad. I pick the JV games because I sort of admire that- how they play even though no one comes to watch. Well, their relatives but that’s about it. Our football teams aren’t very good. I don’t know that I could do that- play for 4 years and never win. Where’s the glory and celebrity in that? :)

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    Ken says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I refuse to have a phone that is smarter than I.

    Don’t worry, humans are still better than computers at a lot of things.

    (Hoping this doesn’t get sent to moderation for all the XKCD links…)

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    PAM Dirac says:

    @low-tech cyclist:

    “If you know what you’re doing” is covering a lot of ground there. I’m always glad when there are people like you around who know what to do in situations where my own middlin’ competencies with tools and household repairs are exceeded.

    A friend of mine claimed that the Home Depot/Lowe’s/etc were put on earth so that people would try to do things themselves and when they finally had the money to hire a professional, when they wrote the check they would say “Is that all it costs?”

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    germy says:

    @NotMax: They were wild. An influence on Mel Brooks, I think.

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    Lapassionara says:

    @debit: I have heard about the awful things he has done to his wife and daughters. Thoroughly evil person. But I don’t know what happens to what he has told or will tell the S.C. if he is not alive to say it in a courtroom. I’m thinking of the rules of evidence.

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    Immanentize says:

    @NotMax: Oh no! Let the Ritz Bros versus Marx Bros battle commence!

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    debbie says:

    @Kay:

    I get a kick out of how horribly patronizing they are

    This must be every mother’s complaint!

    I’m sick of people too busy reading their phones to remember to watch where they’re walking, to get off the damn elevator when the doors open, etc.

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    germy says:

    @Immanentize: Comedy is a big tent. Room for all.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Lapassionara: I really don’t understand what people think will happen to Manfort. Russia really only kills it’s own defectors and Manafort is sowingore chaos in the US for which Russia would probably gladly pay him.

    But folks should understand, you do not get a deal with just a promise of singing. In order to get a deal, you must first lay put every detail that you will share. Often, prosecutors will say, “we already have that, you better have something better.” And before you go into the courtroom and plea, you are debriefed by the FBI making false statements a new crime. Sometes, you even have to go to the Grand jury before the plea is finalized.

    Mueller already has what he needs from Manafort, under oath, in a form that could be used in court even if Manafort dies tomorrow.

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    TS (the original) says:

    @debit: I don’t have voice mail – just makes me feel obligated to call back. If I recognize the number on a missed call, I ring back. Otherwise – they can try again – or not.

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    Immanentize says:

    @germy: did you ever live in Queens or Brooklyn? This is an hours-long discussion topic, which some of my more wicked friends would provoke on their uncles and fathers just to watch the fun.

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    germy says:

    @Immanentize: Well, the Marxes had better writers, at least in the beginning. But I like both. Also Wheeler and Woolsey.

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    bystander says:

    @HeleninEire: Slapstick, I hope, with Guiliani getting multiple pies right in the kisser.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Ken: I’m really good at Calvinball.

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    MoxieM says:

    @HeartlandLiberal: Then I promise not to tell you my tail of woe and intrigue when I ordered a micro and a new stove from Lowes, oh, and a DW (New–to me–condo, with 35 yo appliances that kind of all died at once). Anyhoo, Lowes was revamping their installation process, and it took 6 months…. Bon chance!

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @NotMax:

    TCM will be showing…

    Thank you for your movie recommendations. I don’t watch television often, so I appreciate pre-approved fare to make the time worthwhile. We saw “Little Big Voice” last weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it. Sweet story and it helped refresh my rusty German. Please keep them recommends coming!

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    Any says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: We’re all gonna receive a text that says “NO COLLISION! WITCH HUNT!”

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    That’s been the downside of cellular phones that some people just don’t get: connectivity that can’t get away from you is great; connectivity you can’t get away from is not so great.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Behind the Magnolia Curtain, life and death in the Delta. (vanity fair link)

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    Any says:

    For some reason my comment is in moderation. Can I at least edit. Damn autocorrect

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    Ken says:

    @Kay:

    I don’t know that I could do that- play for 4 years and never win. Where’s the glory and celebrity in that?

    As Trump is finding out…

    (Well, no, we all know that inside his narcissistic black hole of a mind, he’s doing just the bigly bestest presidenting ever seen. But he still looks miserable most of the time.)

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    Anya says:

    I think I misspelled my name

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    Immanentize says:

    @Amir Khalid: I have a tech entrepreneur friend who says, “we are already bionic, we just haven’t perfected the interface.”

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    Anya says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: We’re all gonna receive a text that says “NO COLLUSION! WITCH HUNT!”

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    Ken says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I’m really good at Calvinball.

    I’m a Mornington Crescent man myself.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Amir Khalid: I love to get well and truly away from it, making several trips a year sans cellphone.

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    @Amir Khalid: One can always turn off notifications for a couple of hours or indefinitely if one wants. I frequently do that when I need to concentrate and don’t want to be disturbed. The phone still takes messages, email etc and one can respond later.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    @HeartlandLiberal: Having grown up before microwaves were common household devices, I periodically heat or reheat things in more traditional ways just to remind myself how it was done.

    But also because I think the stove or conventional oven is just better at some things.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    @schrodingers_cat:
    Lucky you. In some jobs that’s a firing offence.

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    Eric U. says:

    @Immanentize:

    I really don’t understand what people think will happen to Manfort. Russia really only kills it’s own defectors and Manafort is sowingore chaos in the US for which Russia would probably gladly pay him.

    when a Russian that was apparently involved in the Trump collusion effort dies, it usually is noted in conspiratorial terms without context, so I am a little confused about some of the deaths. But it seems to me that there have been a number of co-conspirators that have died mysteriously, seemingly so they can’t be flipped. I think most of us wonder about Manafort because they might kill him as a warning to others. It does seem problematic for them to kill Manafort in the U.S. But I guess we’ll find out.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @raven: How’s the pup?

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    @low-tech cyclist: yes, it is an over range model. You can spend over a grand without trying. This one I caught on deep sale. Will pay local guy to install it, after last year shoulder surgery I lift my coffee and scotch, and avoid anything heavier if possible.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Eric U.:
    If Kim Jong-Un can have his brother assassinated at KLIA, I would imagine that much better-resourced Russian operatives can find a way to take Manafort out wherever he is.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @NotMax: I paid <$200 for a nice large capacity one in January. One need not pay large sums for a decent microwave. I’d had the similar model for 15 years.

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    Melusine says:

    Please don’t let him be a sexter, please don’t let him be a sexter…….😱😱😱

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    L85NJGT says:

    Smartphones are excellent to document DIY disassembly.

    @Amir Khalid:

    Digital smartphones are very useful multi-tools – but to do that they need a bunch of unique identifiers. Privacy? The barn doors are open, and the horses are long gone.

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    raven says:

    @WaterGirl: She holding her own. She hasn’t regurgitated her food since we have been feeding her sitting up in her Bailey Chair. thx

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Mary: It’s justthat he’s the last person anyone wants to hear from in an emergency. Insult added to injury, as it were.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @raven: That’s such good news! Last I heard you were either looking at buying a Bailey Chair or making one. Did you make your own?

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Kay: I know a few kids who have gone and the consensus seems to bethat, like much that is Disney, it is pricey but value for money.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @raven:

    Great news!

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    Mike in NC says:

    Had to share a small bathroom with three cats, but today I took a shower for the first time in three days. Winning!

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    Heidi Mom says:

    @raven: Glad to hear she’s doing better.

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    L85NJGT says:

    @Gelfling 545:

    I went with a low cost non-branded after a branded one died in a couple of years. After a decade, some trim is cracked, but the core function keeps on, keeping on, and over mount replacement is a PITA.

    I use the toaster convection oven more often. It doesn’t heat up the kitchen in summer and provides the caramelization that microwave cookery lacks.

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    MomSense says:

    @JPL:

    Now that Manafort and probably Cohen are both cooperating with Mueller, I’ve started to play around with various scenarios regarding the kids.

    To which non extradition treaty country will Javanka and their progeny flee and how long after they have gone will we realize they left?

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    PsiFighter37 says:

    @MomSense: Israel. SATSQ

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    JPL says:

    @MomSense: Since Jared’s dad spent some time in prison, I doubt that Jared will want to follow in his footsteps, so you might be right.

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    Hungry Joe says:

    Cell phones are a step back from privacy after we had regained some of it with answering machines. The first telephones were owned only by the rich, who did not, as a rule, deign to answer them, any more than they answered the door when someone knocked. That was the servants’ job; it was unthinkable that anyone with access to a telephone had the right to interrupt your life, at any time, and speak to you, an Important Person. When phones became ubiquitous, manners evolved to the point where NOT answering a phone was considered rude. (“Somebody GET THAT!”) Except, of course, in certain intimate moments, when “Let it ring” was loaded with meaning.

    Answering machines restored some privacy: “I’ll see who it is before I pick up.” Cell phones yanked that away, and then some: One was always on call. Then we got some back when the number of the caller became available. It’s been an interesting yo-yo-ing of social mores.

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    Old Dan and Little Ann says:

    When i flipped on hannity’s radio show yesterday for my minute check-in he said the Manafort story is no big deal and them started bragging about the 65 women who Kavanaugh did not try to rape.

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    gwangung says:

    @Amir Khalid: Not to mention the wife and children; they may hate him, but the family still means something to HIM.

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    jonas says:

    @Hungry Joe: We still have a landline, but 99% of the calls are clearly robocalls or something that we never pick up. About once a month someone calls whom I talk to, but other than that, it’s my cell, which — as you point out — I keep mostly on vibrate and let go to voicemail unless its someone in my contact list.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @MomSense:
    Israel does seem the most likely destination. But will they even manage to get on a plane? There’s no way they’ll get advance warning of an arrest warrant. And if they did try leaving on a jet plane, Mueller would have had that escape route closed off, and they’d be seized at the airport.

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    PJ says:

    @Eric U.: So far, the Russians have only been targeting Russian nationals, either through obvious assassination (pour encourager les autres), or via “heart attack” (like Vitaly Churkin), but, of course, as in England, sometimes the locals get in the way.

    With regard to Trump’s cronies (aside from his family), I suspect there is a lot more to come out about Russian power in the financial and real estate worlds, as well as in politics. Wilbur Ross definitely has Russian ties, and maybe Betsy DeVos, too. I wonder if there is a point where Putin thinks it is worth sending a message by taking out some Americans.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @jonas:
    Everyone screens calls now with the caller ID on their cell phone.

    We gave up the landline years ago because nobody that we wanted to talk to called on it. We thought about keeping the landline for one reason. The way I found out about the I-35 bridge collapse was that I was unable to make a call on my cell phone. All the circuits were overloaded. Flipped on the TV & saw the live feed. The landline still worked though.

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    Schlemazel says:

    Finished the yard work early today. it is humid & supposed to hit the 90s later. I guess fall has arrived on the tundra

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    MomSense says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    In some ways, but Netanyahu won’t be in power forever and Israel needs the US so if they go there, they would probably have to leave at some point.

    I think their kids speak Mandarin so Mainland China is a possibility.

    I’m so ready for the end of the movie when the credits are rolling and we see what happened to the characters after the story ended.

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    Suzanne says:

    @low-tech cyclist:

    We had one that died ~5 years ago, and when we got bogged down in making a decision of what new one we wanted, we bought a $60 countertop microwave, picked up a cheap microwave cart to put it on, and it’s still working fine for us. And if it goes, we get another $60 nuker.

    You’re required by code to have a hood to ventilate cooking fumes and to trap grease. The expensive microwaves usually are combined with the hood.

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    germy says:

    @MomSense: This entire administration has been a blooper reel.

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    jc says:

    Hey smirking Republicans, Your claims that there’s nothing to see here are starting to look like your support for Trump — a very foolish bet. Enjoy having that fat albatross hung around your necks this November.

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    gene108 says:

    @Suzanne:

    How exactly does a hood that is above the stove trap grease that is splattering in the pan?

    Having trouble seeing the connection

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    Doug R says:

    @HeartlandLiberal: Four or five days? Got one at my local Costco.

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    Suzanne says:

    @gene108: They don’t really get spatters, but they should get the oily/greasy stuff out of the steam and fumes. Restaurant kitchens get a lot of this, residential kitchens less so. The underside of mine gets nasty from time to time, and I have to wipe it down. I am always surprised by how greasy it gets.

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    Ninedragonspot says:

    @MomSense: I am enjoying the thought of Jarvanka consigned to Zhengzhou and forced to teach English to bored 5th-grade students.

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    Suzanne says:

    @Ninedragonspot: I hate Jared very much and I enjoy the idea of him being humiliated.

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    J R in WV says:

    @low-tech cyclist:

    Regarding Microwaves, we have never bought one. First one was procured from my mom and dad after they closed up and sold their FLA place in Osprey… that was a tiny thing from the downstairs bar, but worked.

    Then after my dad died, he had a big ole thing that was supposed to be able to do anything a microwave could do, and still does kinda. Some of the front buttons have quit working, but it still heats stuff up like a 1100 watt ‘waver does, fast and hot!

    Don’t know how old it really is for sure… but it was as his house for years, and I brought it home in 2005, so probably 20ish, old enuff to vote!

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    Rand Careaga says:

    @debit:

    Leave me a voice mail. And I don’t know your number and you don’t leave a voice mail, you’re blocked.

    That’s my system, and my recorded message warns the caller accordingly. Any unknown number that can’t leave a bona fide gets nuked from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

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    afanasia says:

    @TS (the original): I turned off my voice mail for my personal cell phone and soon received complaints from an administrator at work who is not in charge of me and had tried to reach me once the day before, my former MIL, and 2 customers from my side business who had each called once within the last 3 hours. I turned it back on, since the complaints added 1/2 hour of discussion to my day.

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    J R in WV says:

    @debit:

    Have you read the texts between his daughters about how he treated their mother?

    Yes I have. Manafort is personally a despicable, vile, hateful and irredeemable monster. Leaving alone his political actions over his lifetime, which are as bad as he is personally.

    I have no gripe with people who are into sexual polywanking when everyone is a volunteer. But to force one’s spouse into swap meets with strangers after she has not recovered from physical brain damage and has no capacity for decision making is vile and unspeakable beyond belief. She needed a protection order to keep the monster away from her at that point in her life.

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    J R in WV says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    “There are times I give serious consideration to just that, only turning it on when I want to talk to someone.”

    That’s what we do, Samsung Android phone, charge last weeks lying in the console of the daily driver, which we drive twice a week or so. Turned off til we a) have a connection; and b) need to make a call; or c) look something up on the web.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Ken:

    We haven’t realized how many of these things only worked because the previous office holders have been at least semi responsible adults.

    Fixed it for you.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    But you can get away from it. It does take a talent that may seem to lack.
    Ignore it.
    I own it, it doesn’t own me.

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    jonas says:

    For the record, I think Trump will find that the reason he knows about Obama’s “57 states” slip of the tongue is because it was all over the news media at the time, with conservative outlets in particular doing a lot of pointing and laughing.

    I will also add that I seriously doubt Trump knows how many states there are. For real. Plus the other day, he was coloring a US flag at some event at a school or something and was using a blue crayon to color in the stripes.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @raven: That’s great news! We knew your lovely bride would not let Lil Bit eat in an uncomfortable, unattractive chair. So we’ll be expecting a link to the upgraded version.

    I’d surely be waffling about a hot muggy Dawgs game even after last year. And I’d give myself a tropical storm pass, since it’s sorta kinda in the neighborhood.

    Also, too, I want to grow up to be Kay.

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    feebog says:

    So if Trumpov texts the entire nation via cell phone, will it break the internet when 50 million citizens simultaneously text “fuck you” in response?

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Cixelsyd on rof tiaw edit dna emit.

    @low-tech cyclist: Another problem with over-the-stove beasts is they tend to be overpowered – 1400 w. At least the cheaper ones (lime my Galactic Empire model) have no way to adjust the power except running the magnetron for whatever percent of the time out of every 30-second chunk. When you’re typically nuking small portions you have to get really creative with time vs power to avoid explosions. And I’ve never seen a cookbook written for the more powerful virgins – everything’s for 900-1000 w. Grrrr….

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    James E Powell says:

    @Ninedragonspot:

    I am enjoying the thought of Jarvanka consigned to Zhengzhou and forced to teach English to bored 5th-grade students.

    There is no evidence that either one of them has the necessary skills.

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    Ruckus says:

    @germy:
    Aren’t blooper reels supposed to be funny?

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    Ruckus says:

    @jonas:
    It is possible that drumpf is color blind. How would we know? And would he ever admit that he wasn’t perfect? Yeah I didn’t think so.
    An E7 electrician I served with in the navy was colorblind. Working on color coded wiring was a bit of a struggle for him. And current electricians were checked for being colorblind as was I as an electronics specialist. But he had over 25 yrs in at that point and when he enlisted they never checked.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Lapassionara: Mueller needs Manafort to come clean on one critical subject: Why Pence? & how is Pence kompromated? No sense in striking one Russian asset out of the White House when an even more obedient one is in the on-deck circle. (NB I doubt Bobby 3Styx is concerned about Dense’s theocratic leanings – or at least, concerned enough to want to move him out of the line of succession because of it.)

    My ill-informed guess is that the Special Prosecutor already has sufficient intel on VPOTUS to put him away for a long time – or, more to the point, persuade him to do an Agnew – but the IC is not willing to burn sources & methods in order to do so until Mueller has exhausted every other means of obtaining the evidence. Hence, Manafort.

    And that’s where it gets ugly. If Dense is a sleeper agent, now that he’s so close to reaching the WH Vlad will probably pull out all the stops to get him there – including suborning someone in Manafort’s prison protection detail to shut his mouth forever. /jmo

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    EBT says:

    @HeartlandLiberal: An 800 dollar microwave? What the blue fuck. Does it turn in to Patriot One? Suck your dick? Also who thaws meat in the microwave? Steak especially.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:
    What about the other 3+ billion women in the world? Did BK rape them? They haven’t come forward and said he hasn’t.
    And of course we aren’t all that concerned, in this context, with the women he says he hasn’t raped. It’s a very strange construction to me, a list of women he hasn’t raped/groped/fondled/assaulted, what springs right to mind of course is that there is some number that he doesn’t want anyone to talk to. Or that these 65 women are the only ones he’s had any contact with in his entire life. The complete list as it were. There’s probably lots of women that the CBS guy didn’t stick any body parts down their throats. Of course they live in other countries.

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    EBT says:

    @Phylllis: Google: how to block emergency alerts Android
    The many different ways you can do it show up!

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    EBT says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I leave mine on silent, only answer numbers I know, and block as spam everyone else who calls and leaves no message or a message I do not care for.

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    Tokyokie says:

    @debit: I pretty much do the same thing, although part of the reason is my working nights.

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    StringOnAStick says:

    Like everyone else, I don’t answer calls where I don’t recognize the number. When you do phone banking for a political campaign, you reach maybe 2% of the numbers you call because of this. I did some phone banking for the primaries here and one person who answered the phone was an elderly woman who’s husband had died that morning; the last thing she needed was me asking who she was going to vote for. My conclusion from doing phone banking is it is terribly inefficient, canvasing is much better, provided people answer their doors; my husband and I have a secret ring pattern with our neighbors, so we don’t tend to answer the door either. It makes me realize just how hard it is for a campaign to reach voters.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Eric U.:

    I think most of us wonder about Manafort because they might kill him as a warning to others

    Disagree – IMO “most of us wonder about Manafort” because his testimony might be critical in (a) putting the known bastards behind bars and (b) showing the Special Prosecutor where to look for evidence of further wrongdoing to be used in putting even more currently unknown bastards behind bars. E.g., he could be the key to finding out who Pence is beholden to & why Manafort went to some lengths to install him on the ticket.

    . It does seem problematic for them to kill Manafort in the U.S. But I guess we’ll find out.

    So far (IIUC) no one has been waxed who is either a US citizen or in the US. That may well change as the stakes ratchet up – e.g., if it turns out that Pence is beholden to Moskva & (trigger alert: broken record) Vlad’s endgame is to allow Trumpolini’s removal in order to install him as POTUS (to general relief), then the permanent removal of anyone who can connect the former Stupidest Member of the House of Representatives to Russia would become more attractive to the Kremlin the closer those plans seem to be to coming to fruition.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @MomSense: Let us devoutly hope that the end of this film doesn’t look like the ending of Z

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    rikyrah says:

    Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee (@TheDLCC) Tweeted:
    “The Republican Party learned that voter suppression, done ruthlessly and relentlessly, could deliver victory.” https://t.co/OGmiU3aflj https://twitter.com/TheDLCC/status/1041016545793765376?s=17

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    Shana says:

    @JPL: We got a microwave that’s under the counter of the island and opens like a drawer when we redid the kitchen a few years ago. The “vent” for the over the oven one didn’t work and I was determined to have a real working vent put in over the stovetop when we remodeled.

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