No-Politics Open Thread

I had extra peaches from the Farmers’ Market, and I just needed them in something cakey. This is the New York Times’s classic plum torte, but with peaches. The crumbs I’ve tasted are good.

And I am SO tired of politics for a while. What are you doing that is delicious or fun?

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    dmsilev says:

    Doing some background reading for work, I came across this lovely bit: “Large earthquakes are, fortunately, not excessively common. Additionally, controlled experiments are out of the question.”

    Can’t you just feel the disappointment in that second sentence?

    (from this preprint, in the very remote chance that someone is interested in very technical articles on avalanche dynamics)

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    Miss Bianca says:

    Procrastinating, eating the last of the season’s Palisade Peaches (best damn freestone peach around), taking a break from the madness. Had a really nice job interview – really more of a “so would you be interested” conversation – with the performing arts center downtown. Pay’s for shit, but it would make a nice supplement to my current income, and I’d have a lot of opportunity to help try and grow a small arts organization into a slightly larger one – seems to be my new mission in life!

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    rikyrah says:

    With sugar and butter, it’s hard for a peach dessert to taste bad😄
    I firmly believe that a well done peach cobbler is one of the best three desserts in the world.

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    NotMax says:

    For those familiar with those 2-ingredient cookies, they can be made with overripe peaches in place of bananas.

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    I offered my NX500 to the kid to take on her trip to Australia and New Zealand later this month, she had been hesitant. We went to the Huntington yesterday so she could try it out…she left here with the camera in tow. My little(and it’s really light) NX500 will be better traveled that I am.

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    dmsilev says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Did they still have the remnants of the corpse flowers on display? I was there a week or so ago, and even though the blooms had wilted, they still had Stink, Stank, and Stunk out front and center.

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    japa21 says:

    Looks yummy. Mrs Japa and I just finished making her world renown (if the world consists of us, our family, and friends) strawberry rhubarb coffee cake. I was there for moral support and helping her where her wrist wouldn’t allow her to do certain things. Taking some to her occupational therapist tomorrow.

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    Jamie Nafus says:

    Just an FYI post because it is the season for delicious corn on the cob! Remember to keep the cobs away from your pups. Lulu, my Atypical Cushing’s / Sensitive Liver beagle – She got hold of one yesterday and had happily chewed up about 3/4 of it – she was not happy with me taking it away. Corn cobs are not digestible and can cause blockages. I called the regular vet. They said we were the second case recently. They wanted me to take her to the Emergency vet for X-rays / scoping and removing it if needed. I don’t need more vet bills or another recovering critter to worry about. Luckily, I called the ER first and they advised giving a dose of Hydrogen Peroxide to see if she would vomit it up before coming in. It took a dose and 1/2 but everything came up including breakfast.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    Just sitting in the Doc’s office replaying Smokey and the Bandit in my head. Dan that was a cool film, though I thought Jackee Gleason kind’ve stole it. Jerry Reeves too.

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    Been kind of depressed for a few days, but I’m excited to get home and play Final Fantasy XV.

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    @dmsilev: Nope. Stink, Stank, and Stunk have returned to the back room. I was fortunate enough to see all three in bloom. Here’s all three in various stages of blooming.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Listening to Aretha Franklin, Amazing Grace. And parceling out bits of her funeral when I’m feeling particularly down. Yolanda Adams and a guy whose name I’ve forgotten did the most amazing “Mary, Don’t You Weep.” And I finally watched Jennifer Holliday yesterday. Astounding.

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    OldDave says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    Jerry Reeves too

    Jerry Reed?

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    Suburban Mom says:

    I use that recipe all the time. It’s good with apricots too. Whipped cream on top with a little vanilla, lemon zest, or kirschwasser is nice.

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    dmsilev says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Nice! I wasn’t able to get down there in time to see them in bloom. Given how seldom they bloom, three at once is pretty rare; I was chatting with one of the docents and he said that the current theory was that the high heat we had in early July may have triggered a stress reaction of sorts in the plants, sort of a ohmygodimgoingtodie I need to bloom NOW reaction.

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    Catherine D. says:

    This looks a bit like my favorite use-up-fruit dessert: clafoutis. Basically a thick egg batter poured over the fruit and baked. It works really well with frozen fruit as well. But not caky.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Velveeta Fudge.

    Better then you’d think.

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    My post processing of my Milky Way images has been evolving during the past year, I’m trying to get cleaner colors and cut down on the over processed look. Here’s two versions of the same image: this one was processed last year after I took it and this one I just processed. Any comments from the jackals?

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    Mike in NC says:

    Wife is hosting a birthday party for a friend of hers who turns 80 tomorrow. About 12-15 women expected. Might have to start drinking early.

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    Martin says:

    @Major Major Major Major: My daughter is playing through now. I can’t play any of the ones after VI. They just feel wrong to me.

    I’m considering a Dwarf Fortress playthrough since I haven’t done one of those in a while and it’ll be a good palate cleanser before RDR2 and Wreckfest hits the PS4.

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    @dmsilev: From what I heard, quite a few flowers were germinated at the same time as Stink, Stank, Stunk and Little Stinker; so there may be more later in the year.

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    donnah says:

    I’ve had an “interesting” day. I’m dyeing wool for my rug hooking workshops and it’s been extra warm here in SW Ohio. I run the a/c, but have a big floor fan blowing cool air into the steamy kitchen, plus a smaller fan on the counter to direct warm air off the stove. I actually love the dye process and so it’s fun, but lots of heavy lifting.

    So the counter top fan died just minutes after I plugged it in, bumming me out, but I pulled another one from the basement. It worked just fine for a while. Unfortunately, I turned quickly with one of the dye pots and knocked it right off the counter. Ka-blooie!

    Two fans in one day. That’s a record!

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    The Fat Kate Middleton says:

    Since you asked – Spousal Unit and I drove around the area looking at flood waters today. Got kicked out of a bar and grill on the river: “Get out! We’re closed!” Yeah, water’s high everywhere – even on the road below our house, next to the river. We’re safe – but it pisses me off more than I can say how our congressman and governor were dancing around our town less than a month ago, saying, “Yay us! We just got you a government grant that will protect us all from floods forever!” Just found out today it wasn’t totally true – a third of the grant is a loan that has to be paid back soon.

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    Mr. Prosser says:

    I live close to Palisade,CO and have been gorging on peaches since late June. The season is winding down here, am buying seconds for salsa making. The sweet, spicy, salty combo is perfect.

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    Brachiator says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: BTW, wonder if you knew of this book, Hometown Pasadena. Lots of local history and photos of Pasadena and surrounding communities.

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    Steeplejack says:

    I drove my friend to her last knee-rehab appointment. It was late in the afternoon, so afterwards we went to Red Robin, where I hadn’t been in a long time, for an early dinner. Thought I would get a big burger, but I ended up having some “boneless chicken wings” that were pretty good. Spicy but not radioactive. Now I’m home and relaxing after a hectic day. Housecat sideboard with her heating pad set to low.

    My friend works in retail (Trader Joe’s), so I worry about her going back to work too soon, but she has been back on the job for several weeks, building up her hours, and she says the knee is almost 100%. (She had a torn meniscus repaired.) Anyway, glad she got that out of the way before I leave town next week. Busses and walking are not a good way to get to knee rehab!

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    TenguPhule says:


    I can’t play any of the ones after VI.

    Are you talking about FF III (US) or the Gameboy FF VI?

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    mattH says:

    My uncle saddle us up with 3 bags of peaches. We’re on our second Peach Crumble, debating if I want to make a classic pie/tart.

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    daize says:

    @donnah: Would love to see photos of the dyed wool. I’m sure it’s beautiful! I hope you have much better luck with your next fan.

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    @TenguPhule: whatever he’s talking about it it’s not a glowing review of VII and is therefore heresy.

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    Martin says:

    @TenguPhule: FF III (US).

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    daize says:

    @Steeplejack: You’re a good friend.

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    Faithful Lurker says:

    I’m blocked by the NYT, get a subscription or else it says,can you write the recipe down for us? It looks great and we’re overflowing with plums.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    I’ve been doing compotes lately with the late summer fruit: peaches, apples, pears. Quick and easy, and goes nicely in breakfast yogurt or on all kinds of things.

    Not plums though. Those are too tasty. They just get eaten.

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    NotMax says:

    Here we go again, this time from the north.

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    Martin says:

    @Major Major Major Major: My problem is that FF was always a top down 2D RPG. There were a ton of those from that period and I loved them. But some were able to break out of that (I played the original Fallout and I enjoy Fallout 4) and other’s weren’t, and I’m not sure why, but everything after VI (III US) feels wrong to me.

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    @Brachiator: No, hadn’t seen it, interesting.

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    NotMax says:


    So the Rit hit the fan?


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    @Steeplejack: I haven’t been to Red Robin in decades, I used to go to the original location by the University bridge in Seattle, Madame and I can’t go there, we always fight after eating there.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major: VII was overrated. Level Cap was way too easy to reach.

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    California Stars says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: I’m not sure which is which, but I like the one that is not pink. Very nice.

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    Hungry Joe says:

    This Sunday we’re going to Blues Fest, an annual event put on by Michael Kinsman, a former colleague of ours at the San Diego Union-Tribune. (From business writer, later obit writer, to concert promoter!) Blues Fest raises money for single mothers, low-income military families, seniors on a fixed income, and children in poverty.

    Lineup includes Billy Gibbons, Tommy Castro, Sara Rogo, Kenny Neal, and Sons of the Soul Revivers.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Martin: Good game, though I hated the required special controller imputs just to perform ONE GUY’S special attacks and having to worry about the time bar.

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    Shakti says:

    We’re having family over so I light fried okra (to take the sticky out) for okra and potatoes. We’re also having mung beans.

    The homemade yogurt I made last night set perfectly.

    It’s now raining on the Howard Franklin bridge.

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    Gozer says:

    I’m engaged in my favorite activities: reading and listening to music.

    Right now I’m listening to Wayne Shorter’s excellent 1967 album Schizophrenia and reading Days of Rage by Bryan Burrough.

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    @Faithful Lurker: Here you go –

    ¾ to 1 cup sugar
    ½ cup unsalted butter, softened
    1 cup unbleached flour, sifted
    1 teaspoon baking powder
    Pinch of salt (optional)
    2 eggs
    24 halves pitted purple plums
    Sugar, lemon juice and cinnamon, for topping

    Heat oven to 350 degrees.
    Cream the sugar and butter in a bowl. Add the flour, baking powder, salt and eggs and beat well.
    Spoon the batter into a springform pan of 8, 9 or 10 inches. Place the plum halves skin side up on top of the batter. Sprinkle lightly with sugar and lemon juice, depending on the sweetness of the fruit. Sprinkle with about 1 teaspoon of cinnamon, depending on how much you like cinnamon.
    Bake 1 hour, approximately. Remove and cool; refrigerate or freeze if desired. Or cool to lukewarm and serve plain or with whipped cream. (To serve a torte that was frozen, defrost and reheat it briefly at 300 degrees.)
    Tip: To freeze, double-wrap the torte in foil, place in a plastic bag and seal.

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    @California Stars: The one that’s not pink is the new one. I may have reduced the light pollution at the horizon a bit too much and I noticed a problem(too much clarity applied) in the left corner. Thanks.

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    @Martin: I figured it was something like that :) for whatever reason these sorts of things don’t bother me.

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    trollhattan says:

    Me too. U-District Red Robin back in the day, not fighting with Madame. Also patronized the Public Market Starbucks when there was just one Starbucks.

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    NotMax says:


    re: Milky Way

    …despite decades of attempts, astronomers have yet to determine exactly how much our galaxy weighs… Source

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    ruemara says:

    I am prepping for my friends’ upcoming wedding this Saturday, so it’s more of a denial of deliciousness until the festivities. I need to look my best in my tux. Unfortunately, I forgot to hit send on my request for Friday off to do the Rituals of Female Beauty thingy, so I’m going for “hopefully not a hot mess” as my look. And I’m furiously rehabbing my Achilles tendon so I can dance in very moderate heels for 8 hours. I don’t know how socialites deal with this stress.

    The bad thing about diets is it makes me bake a lot. Not sure if I’d make a torte, but maybe a peach cake?

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    Mary G says:

    I have been making things with the plethora of zucchini we have from the one plant we bought in the spring. We are still eating the little ones as vegetables, but some hide in plain sight until they are huge, or quadruple their size overnight. Day before yesterday I made chocolate zucchini bread that was much more like a very moist chocolate cake that was a huge hit with the family. It is good, because it keeps me off Twitter and the various papers I read.

    Since Aretha’s funeral, I have been playing all sorts of the musicians there. My conviction that Stevie’s Innervisions is one of the great all-time albums remains firm.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    I was super excited that my Cold Rush ice machine arrived 1 day ahead of schedule — yay! We got it all hooked up and loaded up with ice water. The unit itself seems to be working fine, but I think they accidentally sent me the wrong pad. It was supposed to be shaped for the knee, but the pictures on the bag seem to show that it’s the shape of a shoulder pad. So that’s a little annoying.

    These things have definitely come a long way since 2006 — the one I had after my previous surgery had a screeching motor, but I can barely hear the pump on this one.

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    ruemara says:

    @NotMax: I think it’s quite rude to ask someone their weight.

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    @TenguPhule: if you were that mad about the FFVII level cap you were playing it wrong and it wasn’t for you anyway.

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    ruemara says:

    @Mnemosyne: an ice machine for your knee/shoulder?

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    MattF says:

    Discovered Talenti Double Dark Chocolate gelato recently. If you like chocolate… you should try it. There’s a secret ingredient– vermouth.

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    debbie says:

    @Faithful Lurker:

    I see Cheryl has responded, but Googling would have shown other sites have posted the recipe, i.e.

    I clipped the recipe from the Times more than 30 years ago, and I still keep meaning to try it …

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    @NotMax: Weight and mass are two different things. Also relativistic mass or rest mass?

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    Brachiator says:

    @rikyrah: I keep meaning to stop by a local shop that supposedly sells fantabulous cobblers. I may give them a look this weekend.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    I’m researching travel in Scandinavia for a trip next June. We’re starting in Stockholm, then heading north to walk a portion of the Kungsleden, followed by Copenhagen and visiting a friend who lives near Aarhus. After that, I’m not sure. Norway? Finland? Jackals have any recommendations?

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    J R in WV says:

    @Hungry Joe:

    We will be seeing Tommy Castro and Tinsley Ellis in NYC in November if all goes as planned. Seeing another favorite Blues Star next Sunday, Buddy Guy, who is touring at something like 82! He was part of the first big blues show I ever saw in Newport back in 1968, IIRC.

    I don’t have time right now, but I plan to post a recipe I got from my Grandma long ago for a German or Pennsy-Dutch peach kuchen, which bathes fresh peaches in sour cream, egg yolks, cinnamon, etc. Not hard to make, but needs fresh peaches, I’ve tried it with preserved of all types, they mush up too much.

    After dinner, so not too long from now. Stand by for delicious, my favorite non-chocolate dessert!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I wasn’t mad, it just became too easy after awhile.

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    NotMax says:

    @Catherine D.

    One can prepare a clafoutis in the Instant Pot, apparently.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @NotMax: Linky borked. :(

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    I will honour the designation of “No Politics,” but I would like to have an opportunity to vent about these SCOTUS Kavanaugh hearings, and earlier appropriate threads are pretty well dead, defunct, deceased, joined the choir invisible, pushing up daisies, shuffled off this mortal coil, bought the farm, etc. etc. and so forth.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    It’s for my knee, but they seem to have sent me a shoulder attachment. 🤔 It’s marked as “knee” in a couple of places, but when you compare the shape to the tiny diagrams, it’s the wrong shape for knee.

    I’m going to have to take a photo and email it to them.

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    Cheryl from Maryland says:

    Watching the US Open on the TV. Both Serena and Madison Keys playing tonight.

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    Haroldo says:

    @NotMax: Not too shabby.

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    CaseyL says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: The original location has closed, to make way for real estate development (grrrrr). I remember when RR was a subversive little burger place, with insane menu items like “Waterbed Burger,” which was supposedly served while you, the customer, lolled on said waterbed; and which they needed 24 hours notice to make (I think it was actually a spoof item).

    I have spent the day figuring out how to salvage the glass piece I’m working on for my Aunt. All was well until the final stacked firing, which came out with yet another massive bubble (the previous attempt at this piece also spawned bubbles and had to be discarded). I broke off the soap-bubble thin bubbly part, leaving a crater in the middle of what is supposed to be sky. My theory of what happened is that the 10×10 dimensions of the piece are too big for the 10×10 dam mold, and the glass fires/melts/anneals unevenly.

    Anyway, first I thought about flipping the piece over and refiring it so any bubbles would come out the back – but that risks just making more bubbles until I know for sure what went wrong the first time. Then I had the brilliant idea of just slicing off the part of the piece where the bubble is – the image would still work fine, only the sky would be smaller. The slab being about 1/2″ thick, I’d need an industrial strength cutter. I spoke to three different commercial glass companies, none of whom could help: the likeliest technique, high pressure waterjet, had a better than 50% chance of shattering the whole piece. So much for that idea.

    The bubble crater is a perfect circle, and it’s in the middle of the “sky.” So, my next thought was: how about gluing a big cabochon bead into the circular crater, and calling it a sun? OK! Hit the bead stores: nothing. Check Etsy: nothing. Have a brainstorm and go to a local rock&mineral shop. Result! Bought a lovely big cabochon agate all swirls of white, grey and pink. No, it doesn’t look like a sun: it could be an eclipsed moon, or even an alien planet. Point is, it looks good, fits the crater, and all will be well.


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    Mnemosyne says:


    If I had to describe the respective shapes, I’m supposed to have a foam thingy that looks like of like one of the face-huggers from “Alien,” and instead I have one that’s vaguely shaped like a uterus and ovaries.

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    @TenguPhule: what were you even doing? I never got anywhere near level 99 in two playthroughs.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Here’s a cool list of slang terms for death from the past 600 years.

    I like “hopped the twig” and “booked by the Gravesend bus,” but “lay down one’s knife and fork” might be the most fitting. And yes, I too would like a discussion of weasel Kavanaugh’s weaselly ways, along with the noble Democratic efforts to corner him.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    what were you doing?

    All of the side quests. Including the Chocobo racing and both Weapons. And maxing out the Phoenix & Knights of the Round Materia so I could create a chain combo.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Just trying to help. I was really poor and without a car for a good long while, and I remember how expensive and time-consuming it could be. A 10-minute car ride could be 30-60 minutes, depending on bus routes, timing and how far you have to walk at each end of the trip (oh, 94° and humid today). That’s not how you want to travel when your knee is messed up. And she’s not in the “Oh, just get an Uber!” zone.

    I was sitting on my ass in an air-conditioned car with SiriusXM, and it took a couple of hours out of my day. Big deal.

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    OldDave says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: I don’t trust my monitor all that much, but I liked the newer one over the older edition.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I never got anywhere near level 99 in two playthroughs.

    The three or four areas before the final dungeon yielded ridiculous amounts of XP.

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    All of the side quests. Including the Chocobo racing and both Weapons. And maxing out the Phoenix & Knights of the Round Materia so I could create a chain combo.

    So by making yourself overpowered so you could beat two overpowered optional bosses you ended up overpowered.

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    Eating dinner made beef in chipotle in adobo sauce, roasted plantains and roasted cauliflower.

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    I came up with a new way to drink milk. Half cup cold milk, one scoop chocolate ice-cream and one tbsp mix for hot chocolate that I made at home. Great way to end a hot summer evening.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I ended up taking Lyft to my two appointments yesterday, but I have the means and equipment to do so. Meniscus repair is a tougher road back than my surgery, so hopefully her employer is doing its best to accommodate her.

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    Steeplejack says:

    ** Trump Rally Reminder **

    Holy shit, I almost forgot! Trump is holding a rally in Billings, MT, at 9:00 p.m. EDT tonight.

    Best way to follow but be shielded from the baleful presence itself is Daniel Dale on Twitter. Real-time reporting and commentary (plus snarky fact-checking!).

    Trump's Billings, Montana campaign rally is scheduled for 9 PM Eastern. I'll tweet tweets in this thread.

    — Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 6, 2018

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    Mnemosyne says:


    So, basically a shake that you didn’t have to get out a blender to make. Trust a physicist to figure that out. 😉

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @OldDave: got my Reed(eevs) mixed up Mea Culpa

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    MomSense says:

    @O. Felix Culpa:

    I love Norway and Iceland. Oslo is so great because you have wonderful arts and things to do in the city but you can take a short train ride for beautiful hiking.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    So by making yourself overpowered so you could beat two overpowered optional bosses you ended up overpowered.

    I beat the weapons at level 72. And I wasn’t even power leveling, the XP was just that generous.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    I’ve been feeling very unproductive today, and then I remember, Oh, right, they cut a hole in my knee and installed a cadaver ligament less than a week ago.

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    debit says:

    @TenguPhule: I loved the Chocobo breeding and racing. If they had a game that was just running around and doing things with Chocobos I would probably never play anything else.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: In May we were on Stockholm for a few days, then went to Oslo, took the train to Bergen, rented a car there and drove the coast highway/ferries down to Stavanger, then retraced that. From Bergen we also took a fjord cruise up to Flåm. It was spectacular in every way. I can fill in details now or later if you’re interested.

    Bring a lot of money, though.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    Yeah, first “on” = “in”.

    I’m so old, I can remember when we used to be able to edit our posts.

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    veniceriley says:

    oooh, I got good shots of the corpse flower a few years back bloom at The Huntington. The botanists were fertilizing it too. Fun!

    Lets see. Nothing interesting is happening except I bought a car. Did you know, instead of going to the retired car sales lots for the renal company, for Hertz there is a thing called rent-to-buy and you can select what you want to purchase right out of their rental fleet for similar money but with much lower miles! I live close enough to SNA Airport that the selection is huge. Got a 2017 white Camry SE with 19K miles only for 16,600. Fun car. Maybe 5 in the lot at work that look near identical and I rely on the unlock fob to see which is mine.
    Shopping around for window tint and stuff.

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    @TenguPhule: ah. I didn’t try for the weapons because I knew I would have to grind on KOTR/Phoenix/one of the other ones, and 1) didn’t feel like it and 2) didn’t want to end up OP.

    @debit: chocobos are the best! FFXV has great chocobo content.

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    debit says:

    I’m still trying to integrate Merrill into the pack. It’s slow going. She’s a little timid and all of my crew are assholes, including sweet little Dani. Right now Dani and Merrill are together in the guest room. No hissing or drama so far, so I’m pretty happy about that. Weirdly, if I go in and try to monitor the situation there IS drama, so I’m leaving them be.

    @Mnemosyne: You deserve to take it easy. Seriously.

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    Steeplejack says:


    I like the second one better; it seems more “real.” I think the eye subconsciously knows that you’re not going to see all that star detail with a light-polluted skyline (no matter how slightly), so it draws attention to the post-production effects. The second one seems more “plausible”; maybe that’s a better word.

    Caveat: From the perspective of my Lenovo notebook’s 11½" screen.

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    Poptartacus says:

    I’m. Smoking salmon with maple syrup glaze

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major: You didn’t have to grind for the Weapons. Level 1 or level 2 Phoenix was all you needed just in case of a TPK, otherwise items were enough to revive. And the game penalized you for using KOTR because the devs thought of everything.

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    TenguPhule says:


    If they had a game that was just running around and doing things with Chocobos I would probably never play anything else.

    There was in fact a game for the PS1 that was called Chocobo Racing.

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    debit says:

    @Major Major Major Major: The chocobos in FFXV are freaking adorable. I really need to fire up my game again, maybe try the VR fishing expansion pack.

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    debit says:

    @TenguPhule: Was it ever released in the US? Or was there an issue with it? I remember reading something negative about that made me not seek it out.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Wayne Shorter, “Speak No Evil” (1966).

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Gin & Tonic: @MomSense: Thank you both! I’m leaning to Norway (and perhaps a sojourn in Iceland on the way home). I’ve traveled a lot, but this would be my first trip to Scandinavia. I figured it would be expensive, which is why I want to maximize my time there.

    G&T – I’d love the details of your trip whenever’s convenient for you. Maybe connect via a front-pager? Cheryl is almost a neighbor – in the context of a large almost empty state – and has my contact info. Thanks for the offer!

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Steeplejack: Freddie Hubbard, “Open Sesame.”

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    @TenguPhule: I guess however you played the game just led you to have a lot more fights than I did, even though we did the exact same thing except for two bosses.

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    donnah says:


    Ha ha ha! Yes, definitely! The problem is, we use that smallish fan at the foot of the bed, so hubby is off to Target for a replacement tonight. And I’ll need it again for the next two days of dyeing, too.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Mary G:

    My conviction that Stevie’s Innervisions is one of the great all-time albums remains firm.

    No joke!


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    Origuy says:

    @Steeplejack: I tore my medial meniscus in May and had arthro surgery June 1. I told my orthopedic surgeon and physical therapist that I had a trip to the Yukon for the North American Orienteering Championships August 16 and I didn’t want to cancel it. They told me I should be able to go. I mostly walked the courses and had a lot of trouble in the complex terrain, but I made it. No knee pain; I still had a brace on it and iced it afterwards every day. They can do great things with knees these days.

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    NotMax says:

    @O. Felix Culpa

    Your regular driver’s license will be honored.

    Oh, in Norway (dunno about the rest of Scandinavia) rental cars are said to be primarily standard transmission, so if planning to rent check that you can get an automatic if you’re not clutch comfortable.

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    Steeplejack says:


    That stuff is f’mazeballs! Thanks for reminding me—not. I had to banish it because it was like crack. Okay, maybe just for special occasions.

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    FelonyGovt says:

    I’m making Okonomiyaki (Japanese pancakes with cabbage, bacon etc.) for dinner tonight.

    Tomorrow we’re meeting my daughter’s new girlfriend. Sounds serious.

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    Origuy says:

    I should add: the surgery I had was not meniscus repair; they trimmed off the small torn part, so it’s thinner on the posterior tip. A friend had a longitudinal tear, which is much more complicated problem. She was many months coming back to long distance running.

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    Aleta says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: A way to link a trip is to get a map that shows locations of ship circles (stones laid out in a ship shape) and rune stones. Then you can stop off to see whatever little local ones are along the way of your travel. They are often just out in a field or near a crossroads not far off your route, so you experience different pieces of the land as you take a break. Sweden has or had a law that as long as you don’t disturb any crops, walkers may walk through almost any land. (I believe it’s one reason they resisted joining the EU–they didn’t want to lose that. ) If you are on a hill it’s nice to watch the sun go down from an old site. In June Stockholm is beautiful walking because of long beautiful evening light. The boat the Vasa (Museum) astounds me. You can look at it online to see if you’re interested.

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    Shakti says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Listening to Aretha Franklin, Amazing Grace. And parceling out bits of her funeral when I’m feeling particularly down. Yolanda Adams and a guy whose name I’ve forgotten did the most amazing “Mary, Don’t You Weep.” And I finally watched Jennifer Holliday yesterday. Astounding.

    Yes. Aretha was amazing. In some ways, I felt like it was the more important and meaningful funeral.

    I have to go back and listen to some of the performances again [like Fantasia] and listen to that version of “Mary Don’t You Weep.”

    Prince did an amazing version of Mary Don’t You Weep.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @NotMax: Thanks – I learned to drive on a standard transmission, which is a useful skill in Europe and elsewhere. Automatics are way expensive to rent. The most challenging time was driving in England with the gear shift on the “wrong” side. But I managed with only a few near-casualties. ;)

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    Steeplejack says:


    I have been sort of discreetly grilling her, because I know one of the problems in hourly jobs is the pressure to get back on the job and get on the clock. (Not much “sick leave,” of course.) And when you go back too soon you risk reinjuring the knee (or whatever) or not letting it heal completely, which leads to more problems down the road.

    I had to go back to work at B&N two weeks after my jaw was broken and while my mouth was wired shut for another two months. My jaw was like a tuning fork and picked up every vibration of every step I took. Did I do it because I loved the job? Fuck, no.

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    Aleta says:

    @debbie: That’s funny, I tore it out one or two or more times when they reprinted it. For years, not only do I keep meaning to try it, but I’m so certain that I will make it that it feels almost as familiar to me as if I had.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Aleta: Oooh, that’s new and intriguing information. I found some cool pictures of the stone ships here. I’m looking forward to the beautiful evening light you describe.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Now that’s just showing off!

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Nice. My favorite Freddie: “À Bientôt.”

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    Aleta says:

    @Steeplejack: Having been in that boat myself for years when younger, I know what a gift to her energy and her knee healing that is.

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    Faithful Lurker says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: Thank you. I’ll try it sometime soon…I wonder how it would be with apples.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Aleta: Here’s a couple of those stone ships near Anundshög, in Sweden.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @rikyrah: thank you!

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    Steeplejack says:



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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: You encounter automatics a little more now. I’m fully comfortable either way, and always specify the cheapest option, but the car I rented in Bergen had an automatic transmission.

    Plan on $8/gal for fuel, though. Expensive gas and cheap hydro means you see a *lot* of Teslas.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Gin & Tonic: But they like their classic Detroit iron too (this is in Bergen.)

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Gin & Tonic, @Steeplejack:

    Now you’ve got me going deep into the archives.

    Freddie Hubbard, “Little Sunflower.”

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    Steeplejack says:

    Okay, I’ve got to get over to Daniel Dale’s Twitter feed to find out how crazy Trump is tonight. Could be epic!

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    NotMax says:


    Is it 9 p.m. local time (which would be another 2 hours from now) or 9 p.m. Eastern?

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    @Steeplejack: I do correct for the yellow tint from light pollution and reduce the exposure towards the horizon. At that wide an angle you won’t get much detail, it’s shot with a 12mm lens(18mm 35mm equivalent).

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @NotMax: Per the intrepid Daniel Dale himself, it’s 9 pm Eastern.

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    NotMax says:

    @O. Felix Culpa

    So 7 p.m. in Billings.

    About 15 minutes before they roll up the sidewalks. //

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    Elizabelle says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: Norwegian Air and Wow (budget airline out of Iceland) have wonderful deals. I usually do the Economy plus option; I like a seat reservation and (sometimes) a little more leg room. I know Norwegian flies out of LAX and SFO, I think ….

    You will have a splendid time. Keep us posted!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @debit: They basically just took the minigame and expanded it a little more but didn’t really put any effort into making it a standalone game.

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    Steeplejack says:


    It’s 7:00 MDT, 9:00 EDT. That’s what was announced.

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    J R in WV says:

    Peach Kuchen
    By Grace H. (my Grandma)

    1/2 cup butter
    2 cups sifted flour
    1/4 tsp baking powder
    1/2 tsp salt
    1 cup sugar
    12 peach haflves ( or however many it takes to fill your pan )
    1 tsp cinnamon ( I add some Chinese Five Spice too )
    2 egg yolks ( I use 3 )
    1cup sour cream

    Preheat oven to 425.

    Work butter into sifted flour, baking powder sale and 2 tablespoons of sugar. Mix sugar with cinnamon (and 5-spice if using).

    Pat even layer over bottom of 8 or 9 inch square pan, and up sides. Arrange peach halves in shell, sprinkle fruit with sugar and cinnamon mix. Bake in 425 oven for 15 minutes.

    Meanwhile, beat egg yolks into sour cream. Take dish from oven and pour sour cream mix over fruit. Reduce oven to 350, bake 30 minutes longer.


    This recipe is from my gramdma’s in laws up in Pennsyltucky, where her husband, my Penssy-Dutch grandfather came from. He was one of 15 siblings, she was one of 9 siblings, both were farm families. He learned black smithy work, and was got a job as a mechanic in the WV coal field mines, and grandma went to business school, learned typing and bookkeeping, and got hired to do accounting in the company offices.

    After they met and decided to marry, her sisters-in-law all sent her recipes from his family, so she could cook things he had grown up with. This is one of those family recipes, that my Grandma typed up for my wife and I when we wed.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:


    About 15 minutes before they roll up the sidewalks. //

    Yup. My mom used to live in Billings. Not the most happening place.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Elizabelle: Thanks for the airline tips. I’ve heard mixed reviews about Norwegian Airlines, so it’s good to know you’ve had positive experiences with them.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @J R in WV:

    Thanks for that! Bookmarked.

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    Steeplejack says:

    Okay, Daniel Dale has started on the Trump rally.

    For those who don’t go on Twitter much—and you don’t have to have a Twitter account, you can just go to the link and read—Dale’s comments will collect at the top, with readers’ comments below that. When you need to refresh the page (to get new comments), click on Dale’s most recent comment, which will embiggen the text, and that will hold your position after the page refresh. Otherwise you’ll end up back at the top of the thread.

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    Steeplejack says:


    ETA: You need to manually refresh the page yourself.

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    Manyakitty says:

    @Faithful Lurker: I’ve made this one more times than I can count. So good.

    Also, this one is even simper. Pro tip: grate a whisper of bittersweet chocolate or sprinkle some cocoa powder over the top just before baking.

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    Manyakitty says:

    @Shakti: That sounds DELICIOUS. How close are you to Akron?

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    Starfish says:

    @Miss Bianca: We got a box of Palisade Peaches, and I made peach ginger jam last weekend. Usually, I make two batches of jam, then we make a cobbler and a crumble. We haven’t had the time. I hope the rest of the peaches do not go bad. I really want that cobbler and crumble to happen.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Those look good. Also bookmarked.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Looks like you don’t have to manually refresh the page. When you click on a tweet and embiggen it, the thread appends any of Dale’s subsequent tweets. Cool!

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    Steeplejack says:

    Trump was riffing on “crazy Bernie” for a few minutes. One commenter:

    He and Bernie should drive around in a van solving crimes. That’s a TV show I would watch.

    — Erik the Rural Juror (@EDoggTheRed) September 7, 2018

    Also, there is a commenter called Elon Mosque.

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    Manyakitty says:

    @Steeplejack: Highly recommended. Enjoy!

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    Manyakitty says:

    @J R in WV:
    @Cheryl Rofer:
    Saved em both. Thank you!

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    Steeplejack says:

    First “Sir Alert.”

    Sir Alert: Trump tells a story about an unnamed NATO leader calling him "sir." He adds that it's nice when a president or prime minister calls him "sir," since it shows respect. He says some more "sir"s.

    — Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 7, 2018

    Dale keeps track of how often Trump spices up an anecdote with someone—potentates, diplomats, coal miners, minor functionaries—calling him “sir” at a crucial juncture.

    The last one I remember was Trump talking with a group of coal miners who were so glad to be going back to work that they were crying—all but one. Trump looked at him, and the guy said, “Sir, I don’t cry.”

    Like that. All these stories come from Trump and are unsubstantiated, of course.

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    jonas says:

    My new culinary discovery is pork shoulder steaks. Local farms and farmers markets near me sell them and they’re one of the more inexpensive cuts. I just season and grill them on the Weber and, riffing on David Chang’s recipe, serve them with a ranch-style dressing, mac and cheese, and an heirloom tomato salad. Amazeballs.

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    Ruckus says:

    @O. Felix Culpa:
    Have been to Norway and loved it. June should be a great time of year. I was there in November. 46 yrs ago.
    A guy I worked with moved to Finland, where his parents were from with his 7 yr old boy – he had sole custody. This was in the late 60s though. He only stayed 2 yrs, he had a really difficult time with the language. But he loved the place. I’d bet it would be different today.
    But as far as travel advice, other than to say GO!, I’m out.

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    NotMax says:


    Sounds weird, maybe, that I like to slather some jalapeño jelly on ’em after they’re cooked. Plus applesauce on the side.

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    NotMax says:


    He and Bernie should drive around in a van solving crimes. That’s a TV show I would watch.

    Barfsky & Smutch.

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