“Why do all these Nazis keep helping my president?”

On another platform, valued commenter Le Comte (etc.) drew my attention to this article from The Post. Holy fucking shit:

Ian M. Smith, a Department of Homeland Security analyst who resigned this week after he was confronted about his ties to white nationalist groups, attended multiple immigration policy meetings at the White House, according to government officials familiar with his work.

Smith quit his job Tuesday after being questioned about personal emails he sent and received between 2014 and 2016, before he joined the Trump administration. The messages, obtained by the Atlantic and detailed in a report published Tuesday, depict Smith engaging in friendly, casual conversations with prominent white supremacists and racists.

In one email from 2015, Smith responded to a group dinner invitation whose host said his home would be “judenfrei,” a German word used by the Nazis during World War II to describe territory that had been “cleansed” of Jews during the Holocaust.

According to The Post, colleagues in the understaffed policy shop where this Nazi worked said this guy wasn’t a supervisor but also “wasn’t just some low-level schlub.” He helped develop policy on refu­gee issues, temporary worker visas, and penalties for legal immigrants who use tax credits or government benefits.

The Nazi also attended White House meetings held by Stephen Miller. Shocked, gambling, etc.

Smith is the second “blood-and-soil” shit-stain booted from the White House this month:

A White House speechwriter for President Trump was terminated last week after revelations that he had spoken at a conference attended by well-known white nationalists, according to three people familiar with the decision who were not authorized to speak publicly.

Darren Beattie, who was a visiting instructor at Duke University before he joined the White House speechwriting team, was fired Friday after a media inquiry about his appearance at the 2016 H.L. Mencken Club conference, where Beattie spoke on a panel alongside Peter Brimelow.

Brimelow, founder of the anti-immigrant website Vdare.com, is a “white nationalist” and “regularly publishes works by white supremacists, anti-Semites, and others on the radical right,” according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, an advocacy group that tracks extremists.

I’m sure Ivanka privately opposes the employment of Nazis in the West Wing, but they just keep tumbling out of the woodwork.

In more local news, something equally baffling happened in the gubernatorial race between racist Trump toady Ron DeSantis and Andrew Gillum:

‘Tis a mystery.

[Post title is an homage to a justly famous opinion column from The Onion, circa 1998. But you knew that.]

178 replies
  1. 1
    Jeffro says:

    Catherine Rampell retweeted an article that noted not one but TWO open Nazis are running for mayor of Hilton Head, SC. (Apparently there are seven people total running, so let’s hope that one of the other five is a nice, sane, appealing Democrat).

    Jesus, WW II vets must be spinning in their graves.

    On another note, this Patten plea deal today is quite interesting. It includes an admission that he lied to the Senate Intelligence Committee, which if you think about it puts a LOT of Trumpov/Russia folks squarely in Mueller’s crosshairs. By time all of the separate perjury charges, money laundering charges, conspiracy charges, campaign finance violation charges, FARA charges, and more are added up and dropped on their heads, it really IS going to be “hundreds of charges against dozens of people* ”

    *or so this one guy I know says…;)

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    Jeffro says:

    Here’s the article Rampell referenced

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    Baud says:

    I wish I could say I did Nazi that coming, but I totally did.

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    MoxieM says:

    Holy Cannoli. I mean, I think we knew it if we were paying attention. But that’s just disgusting. And what it says about norms and boundaries in this White House is frankly close to terrifying.

    I seem to remember a story about the *resident keeping a copy of Hitler’s speeches by his bedside, early in the campaign. In hindsight, it seems more worth of attention that Her Emails, doch?

    I don’t remotely know enough German for a good enough insult, and maybe the wrong language under the circumstances. It’s not exactly fire with fire. Except, that kind of abominable speech and behavior is illegal in Germany, with good reason (despite the vile racists in the East, Pegida, AfD, and fellow travellers.)

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    Jeffro says:

    Betty I might have missed someone’s earlier post…has it already been noted/discussed that DeSantis is one of the moderators of some RWNJ FB page? I haven’t seen it hit the mainstream media yet.

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @Jeffro:

    It includes an admission that he lied to the Senate Intelligence Committee, which if you think about it puts a LOT of Trumpov/Russia folks squarely in Mueller’s crosshairs.

    I would think perjury to Congress would be handled by Congress. Can Mueller go after this without an invitation from the Ruling Party?

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    debit says:

    I wonder what we’re going to do when the shitshow circus leaves town. Life is going to be so blessedly boring.

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    trollhattan says:

    I’m sure Ivanka privately opposes the employment of Nazis in the West Wing, but they just keep tumbling out of the woodwork.

    Nice turn of phrase. “Daddy, Eichmann’s in the wainscotting again!”

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    Appalled but not surprised.

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    Aleta says:

    Was this illegal practice somwhat common and accepted? Did none of the Congress members who were asked to meet with the foreign nationals have aides who checked on registration? Or did they know and ignore the law, or refuse the meetings but not report?

    From From Doc 1 filed in USDC for DC (a copy of it at cnn)

    PATTEN violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act by contacting members of the United States legislative and executive branches as well as the media. Such communications included efforts to set up meetings between Foreigners A and B with Members of Congress and staff.

    PATTEN also drafted talking points for Foreigner B for his meetings on Capitol Hill as well as talking points for Congressional staffers to use to convince other Congressional Members and staff to meet with Foreigner B. The activity was undertaken to promote the interests of Foreigner B and the Opposition Bloc to infl uence United States policy. In addition, during this time period, PATTEN and Foreigner A assisted Foreigner B in drafting periodic articles (e.g. “op-eds”) targeted at the United States press.

    4. Specifically, PATTEN in coordination with Foreigner A worked on setting up meetings in Washington, D.C., from on or about January 19, 2015, through on or about Jantary 21,2015, between Foreigner B and (a) Members of Congress and their staff – specifically, Senators on the Foreign Relations Committee and Representatives on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs; (b) the Executive Branch – including officials from the U.S. Department of State; and (c) numerous members of the United States media. PATTEN also drafted and provided staffers with points of discussion conceming Foreigner B and his message with respect to ukraine.

    As another example, in or around May 2016, PATTEN and Foreigner A wrote a letter for Foreigrier B to use in lobbying a high-ranking member ofthe Department of State regarding recent developments on the Ukrainian Central Election Commission, and requested the official’s engagement on the issue.


    5. PATTEN also drafted op-ed pieces on behalf of Foreigner B and then placed them with United States media. For instance, in or around Jantary 2017, PATTEN and Foreigner A drafted an op-ed article on behalf ofForeigner B to address concems regarding LJkraine’s ability to work effectively with the new United States administration. PATTEN then attempted to get the op-ed article placed with various United States media outlets. In or around February 2017, PATTEN succeeded in having the op-ed article published in a national United States media outlet. Prior to the publication ofthe op-ed, PATTEN facilitated Foreigner B’s signing the required United States media outlet’s license agreement.


    6. PATTEN knew at the time that he took all ofthe actions described above that the Foreign Agents Registration Act required him to register in order to engage legally in such United States activities for a foreign principal. PATTEN had previously filed under the Foreign Agents Registration Act for another client. PATTEN and Foreigner A inquired of Foreigner B whether Company A could file under the Foreign Agents Registration Act; Foreigner B said in substance that he did not want them to register now, but they could eventually do so at an unspecified future.

    Foreigner B is said to be Serhiy Lovochkin.

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    Baud says:

    @Baud:

    You know who else saw that coming (I know you do)?

    Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clintontoday disparaged her Republican rival as a tool of the racist, radical right, a man who foments “paranoia and prejudice” and ushers hate groups into the mainstream.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/25/hillary-clinton-alt-right-racism-speech-donald-trump-nevada

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    trollhattan says:

    @debit:
    Similar to waiting for surgery pain to disappear. The blissful lack of something is its own reward–I’m too much of a pessimist to envision my Trumpfree future. Hopefully I’ll outlast the bastard.

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    Roger Moore says:

    We need a tag like “Only The Best People” for when this kind of thing happens.

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    @Jeffro:

    My father-in-law lives in Hilton Head. It’s one of the three primary hellmouths of old white entitlement (the others are in Sun City AZ and The Villages).

    If you’re an old white woman living there, your main fear is of anyone darker than a plain, colorless, cheap manila folder from Office Depot. If you’re an old white man, you fear the same but need to exercise dominance displays via the organs of the state, lest they get uppity.

    Since the first week I ever visited once they moved there, I’ll never forget two things I saw:

    1. Two cop cars, 3 cops rousting a black teen of about on a bicycle on the side of the road (and I was a Bush voting republican at the time – I was shocked and appalled – wife wouldn’t let me step up at the time).

    2. The news article and my father in law’s explanation that of 9 members of the water board, two were people of color although people of color made of 55-60% of the permanent residents – and that the areas of HHI that didn’t have running water were the areas where people of color lived.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Jeffro: It was in the local news, but I don’t know if it’s hit the national media. Probably not, even though DeSantis is a back-bench Trump protege who wouldn’t be anywhere near the GOP nomination in Florida’s gubernatorial race without Hair Furor.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: “…one of the three primary hellmouths of old white entitlement…” Well said — consider it heisted!

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    Jeffro says:

    And here’s a little good news since it looks like we aren’t getting a nice Friday indictment drop: GOP pulling plug on unwinnable House races…including Barbara Comstock’s?!?!?

    FSM let it be so!

    …Behind the scenes, senior party strategists have begun polling to determine which incumbents may be beyond saving. Among those most in jeopardy of getting cut off, they say, are Virginia Rep. Barbara Comstock, Pennsylvania Rep. Keith Rothfus, and Iowa Rep. Rod Blum, all of whom are precariously positioned in their districts.

    The party has to date reserved millions of dollars of future advertising time to buttress Comstock and Rothfus. Yet those funds are not guaranteed — they still might be diverted to other incumbents viewed as more likely to win in the fall.

    “At this point in the cycle with a field this large, difficult choices will have to be made,” said Brian Walsh, a former senior House GOP campaign official who now oversees the pro-Trump America First Action super PAC, which is slated to spend millions on congressional races.

    “Such is the world we live in now,” Walsh added.

    The anxiety is already rising among lawmakers and their allies. Kansas Rep. Kevin Yoder, an imperiled suburban congressman whom Democrats are spending heavily to defeat, has recently complained to allies that the national committee hasn’t done enough to help him in his reelection bid, according to four people familiar with the conversations.

    In another instance of the angst, Northern Virginia-based Republican donor Bobbie Kilberg pressed senior party officials at a Mitt Romney-hosted policy summit in Utah this summer on why Congressional Leadership Fund, the principal House GOP-aligned super PAC, wasn’t doing more to help Comstock. The group isn’t planning to air any TV ads in support of the congresswoman — and some people close to the organization view her race as essentially unwinnable.

    “It’s personally upsetting to me,” said Kilberg, a Comstock friend and financial backer. “The fact that CLF has not supported Barbara — and has not indicated they will do so — I find very disappointing.”

    Aww poor baby! But then, if you’re a Comstock friend and financial backer, F. U.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Millard Filmore: Good question! Legal experts?

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    MattF says:

    I guess this answers the earlier question of who would take a job in the WH these days.

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    James E Powell says:

    @Baud:

    Hillary called them deplorable and the entire press/media world clutched pearls and headed for the fainting couch.

    I am going to hate all of them for the rest of my life

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    NotMax says:

    Know essentially nothing about the area, but re: Gillum –

    Isn’t Tallahassee up in the South Alabama area of Florida? As he’s got a track record of winning there, does that aid in greasing the skids for the other, um, less enlightened parts of the state?

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    Aleta says:

    @Aleta: If these violations were in fact reported when they happened in 2015, I guess that means that Patten, Manafort etc may have been watched since then. And that the entry of Russian-Ukraine $ into Republican funds was known to the watchers?

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    Jeffro says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    My father-in-law lives in Hilton Head. It’s one of the three primary hellmouths of old white entitlement (the others are in Sun City AZ and The Villages).

    Ugh. (Had to look up what The Villages were).

    Let ’em all head south. Given what I’m seeing re: global warming predictions, I’m thinking about spending my retirement years in mild-n’-wonderful North Dakota, lol

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    EBT says:

    Operation Paperclip tainted the American Conservative movement in an incurable fashion.

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    efgoldman says:

    @debit:

    I wonder what we’re going to do when the shitshow circus leaves town.

    Appropriately, Stravinsky’s Circus Polka just came up in my random music feed.

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    HeleninEire says:

    Re-posted from the last thread, since once again I was posting in an almost dead thread.

    A final update on my work friend. Her mother took her off of life support this morning. The “good” news is that her children were born here so they are Irish citizens. In addition, she has a brother here who she named as guardian. So all is as well as it can be in this horrible situation. They will be raised here. My supervisor told us to go home at lunchtime and I went home and took a 3 hour nap. This shit is exhausting. Thank you to everyone here for your kind words and a special thank you to Satby for putting me in touch with Tom. While we won’t need his services it was heartening to have that option.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @NotMax: He’s mayor of Tallahassee, college town and liberal oasis in the red Panhandle. That’s not to say he can’t win, but…

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Jeffro: Kansas Rep. Kevin Yoder, an imperiled suburban congressman whom Democrats are spending heavily to defeat, has recently complained to allies that the national committee hasn’t done enough to help him in his reelection bid

    Wow. Isn’t he the incumbent Sharice Davids is taking on?

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    efgoldman says:

    @James E Powell:

    Hillary called them deplorable and the entire press/media world clutched pearls and headed for the fainting couch.

    In my head, I’m seeing and hearing the old grey kinescope of Tailgunner Joe McCarthy “I have in my hand the names of [random number between 20 and a hundred] communists working in the state department….”
    I have on this blog the names of multiple nazis currently working in the White House.
    Hey, why not?

    Fuckem

  32. 32
    Matt McIrvin says:

    @debit: Trumpism is not going away with Trump. We’ll be dealing with these people for the rest of our lives somehow.

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    debbie says:

    The messages, obtained by the Atlantic and detailed in a report published Tuesday, depict Smith engaging in friendly, casual conversations with prominent white supremacists and racists.

    Every time I think he’s slithered into obscurity, that fucker Richard Spencer oozes back up.

  34. 34

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Trumpism is not going away with Trump. We’ll be dealing with these people for the rest of our lives somehow.

    Which is why it’s so essential we thoroughly defeat them and send as many to prison as possible. The Republicans need to thoroughly learn the lesson that Trumpism is not the route to long-term political success

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    efgoldman says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Trumpism is not going away with Trump.

    McCarthyism didn’t go away with McCarthy, either. The difference is 70+ years of social media development.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Betty Cracker: I was surprised to hear Rick Wilson say he has a real shot. Wilson’s a gun nut first and foremost, is what I’ve gleaned from the last year of paying attention to him, and he gives that issue a lot of weight. Maybe he’s right, I don’t know. But he said if Gillum can meet Obama’s turn out with African Americans, and DeSantis keeps doubling down on trump and scares college-educated whites, he’ll win.

    He also said Dems underestimate Scott at their peril, because in spite of his weird affect (Wilson’s phrase or close to it) he’s the most disciplined candidate RW has ever seen. And he’s going after newly arrived Puerto Ricans more aggressively than Nelson. Somebody else said Nelson’s got in his head that he’s an astronaut and people love that. I was wondering what you think of that assessment?

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    PeakVT says:

    But you knew that.

    Here at BJ, the commentariat is aware of all internet traditions.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Republicans need to thoroughly learn the lesson….

    Every time we (and the CW) think “this time they HAD to learn…” it bites us in the ass, going back at least to Watergate.

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    Thoughtful David says:

    Jeffro–
    Did I see something in here about you living in the VA 5th CD? I live in the northern end of it.

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    MattF says:

    @efgoldman: Nazis aren’t going to stop trying to get into positions of influence– and nowadays, the notion of Republican ‘gatekeepers’ is a bad joke. Think Reince Priebus.

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    @Jeffro: Rod Blum was my rep in Iowa. Even though I’ve moved away, I’d rejoice to see him gone.

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    JPL says:

    @HeleninEire: I just read that Trump added a visit to Ireland in November. How close are you to his golf course?

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    LesGS says:

    So apparently Trump just blew up the Canadian trade deal.

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    efgoldman says:

    @efgoldman:

    Every time we (and the CW) think “this time they HAD to learn…” it bites us in the ass

    [No edit function]
    The lesson WEN (the clear majority party) fail to learn is: Take nothing for granted; do not get complacent; work your ass off for EVERY fuckiNg election, EVERYWHERE, EVERY FUCKING TIME:
    Or face the inevitable consequences.

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    Aleta says:

    @Jeffro: Last night he announced he’d removed himself from the page. And now he says (or it’s reported) he was “unknowingly a member” of that racist FB page. No way he or his staff could have missed what it was. He can’t claim innocence by saying a staff underling put him there to attract voters, either.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @debit:

    I wonder what we’re going to do when the shitshow circus leaves town.

    three generations of shoveling elephant crap off of the streets.

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    Does nobody screen applicants to work in the WH? In 2008, anyone who wanted to work for Obama had to fill out a long form that included info about everything they ever posted online.

    I suppose an even worse possibility is that they are screening and these are the people they choose.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Wilson’s a gun nut first and foremost, is what I’ve gleaned from the last year of paying attention to him, and he gives that issue a lot of weight.

    That was one of the things I took away from reading “Everything Trump Touches Dies”.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    I suppose an even worse possibility is that they are screening and these are the people they choose.

    Kushner showed that its okay to leave annoying details blank on screening forms.

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    JPL says:

    Do we have any idea how this very fine person got the job? Did Kelly hire him?

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    LesGS says:

    I have no idea how my link to the Toronto Star got tangled up in the reply link of my post…

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    efgoldman says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Does nobody screen applicants to work in the WH?

    Hahahahahahahahah!
    Very funny.
    This is the maladministration that appointed judges who never cracked a law book, and an “education Secretary” who tjhinks her depqartm4nt shouldn’t exists and doen’t know what it does.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Aleta:

    He can’t claim innocence by saying a staff underling put him there to attract voters, either.

    Just watch him do so.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @efgoldman:

    This is the maladministration that appointed judges who never cracked a law book, and an “education Secretary” who tjhinks her depqartm4nt shouldn’t exists and doen’t know what it does.

    Those are features and working as intended.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    We’ll be dealing with these people for the rest of our their lives somehow.

    I am optimistic about this.

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    Martin says:

    @LesGS: There was never going to be a deal. Trade deals take years. They are magnificently complex things, and even if Trump thinks he can jizz one out every few days, the other side of that deal is going to insist on doing their due diligence, plus Congress needs to approve these things, and you can be every single one of those Senators is going to be looking out for their critical fly fishing waders industry to see if they’re protected or not.

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    @James E Powell: They reached for the fainting couch because heart of hearts they knew that the term described many of them to a T.

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    Martin says:

    @Aleta: He’ll blame it on his wife like Duncan Hunter did.

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    Jager says:

    @MoxieM:

    Here you go,
    dicker Mann mit einem kleinen Schwanz

    Learned that when I was about 14 from a mechanic who worked for my father

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    Cacti says:

    I just read that the Russian separatist leader in Ukraine got hisself blowed up at a Donetsk coffee shop.

    It almost makes me wish Boob in Putinland was still here to laugh at.

    Almost.

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    les says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Wow. Isn’t he [Yoder] the incumbent Sharice Davids is taking on?

    Yes. And he’s just as bad as you might imagine. Right out of the Brownback/Kobach club.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Martin:

    He’ll blame it on his wife like Duncan Hunter did.

    To be fair to Hunter, she’s pretty heavily involved in a lot of the charges made against them.

    Him hiring on as a $2K and later $3K campaign employee with free access to the campaign credit cards and allegedly she was the one who came up with Balls for the wounded warriors alibi.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Getting on toward quitting time in DC. Chuck Todd promised me a Friday bombshell, god dammit.

    Ima go back to ignoring that sawdust-brained, fatuous gobshite.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Rodrigo Duterte rose to power even as he spewed crude comments in public speeches and then, as president, launched a crackdown on drug use that has left thousands of people dead.

    And in a speech on Thursday, Duterte made a joke about rape in an apparent reference to a recent police report that said his hometown of Davao, where he once served as mayor, has recorded significant instances of sexual violence.

    “They said there are many rape cases in Davao,” Duterte said. “As long as there are many beautiful women, there will be more rape cases.”

    The president continued by asking rhetorically, “Who agrees to do it on the first request anyway? Will the woman allow it? No. ‘Don’t, no, ahhh.’ Nobody agrees to do it on the first try,” according to Rappler, a Phillipines-based news website. “Nobody agrees to do it on the first try. That is rape.”

    Trump: “I can top this.”

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE PROSECUTORS IN FRONT OF THE CURTAIN THE DEAD WAR HERO OR THE TWO PRESIDENTS AT LEAST ONE OF WHOM YOU LIKE AND SOME OF YOU BOTH OF THEM DADDY WHY DIDN”T YOU LOVE ME

    Bloomberg @ business
    Where we are on Nafta now:
    ➡️No deal reached with Canada today
    ➡️Talks restart next week
    ➡️Trump intends to notify Congress of a deal despite postponed talks

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    Aleta says:

    @TenguPhule: yeah I expect he will, since “we were only trying to attract racist voters” sounds good to him.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    racist robocalls against Andrew Gillum paid for by a neo-Nazi group in Idaho are going out to voters in Tallahassee

    That’s no mystery, that’s straight up money laundering through a Neo-Nazi group.

    I remember a time when this would be treated as the federal crime that it is.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Now, Trump made those comments, and others, under an off-the-record agreement with Bloomberg. There were plenty of other highlights from Trump’s candor, via Dale and the Toronto Star:

    “Here’s the problem. If I say no — the answer’s no. If I say no, then you’re going to put that, and it’s going to be so insulting they’re not going to be able to make a deal … I can’t kill these people,” he said of the Canadian government.

    JFC.

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    JPL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Rudy’s timeline was today, but Trump is not running so Mueller need not worry about a timeline

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    Gex says:

    @efgoldman: Just as their dog whistles areused to pull in the hard core bigots, any decency they display is used to draw in moderate/reasonable people. They are first and foremost the party of white male Christian supremacy – the actual policies are the tell.

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    efgoldman says:

    Why do I fall asleep at about this time every afternoon?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @efgoldman:

    Why do I fall asleep at about this time every afternoon?

    Large lunch?

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    JCJ says:

    Seeing the word “judenfrei” made me queasy.

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    trollhattan says:

    @efgoldman:
    Has nurse Ratched just played the music?

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    trollhattan says:

    @JCJ:
    You’re not the only one. We tolerate this shit at our considerable peril.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    It’s one of the three primary hellmouths of old white entitlement (the others are in Sun City AZ and The Villages).

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Fun fact: The Villages has the highest rate of new herpes infections in the entire United States.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I won a closest to the pin contest there, shortly before our group was ejected for being drunk and disorderly. Which we were. Ah, those bachelor party weekends back in the 90’s….

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think Wilson is correct on both counts: Gillum has a shot IF he can generate huge turnout — and I think he can! I’m gonna work my ass off to help. The mostly white, middle-aged Dems I know who didn’t support Gillum in the primary are all in for him now. It helps that his opponent is a goddamned nutcase. Black turnout should be strong, and hopefully the Parkland kids’ efforts will pay off with the yoots.

    Scott is a worry. As I’ve said here before, Scott is the worst retail politician I’ve ever seen. That’s not hyperbole; he is literally the worst! But he’s won twice in the governor’s race, and he is indeed disciplined, as Wilson noted.

    Now, I think it bears repeating that Scott has never cracked 50%, and there were unique circumstances in each of the two races he won that allowed him to eek out a win. In the first race, the Dems stupidly ran a charisma-free bankster against Scott in the aftermath of the crash during the Tea Party wave year. In the next race, Crist the party switcher had the Democratic nomination, and there were indy ratfuckers in both races.

    It’s also worth noting that Scott dumped more than $70M of his personal fortune into the races. Right now, he’s getting bad press for an ongoing environmental catastrophe (algae bloom) and for parking millions on offshore tax havens. But still, he’s been a crook all along, and caveats aside, he’s also been a winner down here, and that is worrisome.

    I am going to plaster my vehicles with Nelson signs and hang them on my fences. But to be honest, I look forward to the day we have a better Democrat to get behind. Nelson almost always votes the right way after hemming and hawing. But the fake astronaut thing is annoying. (He got to hitch a ride on a shuttle as a congressman; he’s actually a lawyer.) And poor guy, he looks increasingly like one of the vampires from Buffy, as someone noted on Twitter. But he’s our man, and to give him his due, he’s made a career out of being a Florida politician and has survived some close shaves, so he knows how to win too.

    Bottom line: if Gillum generates the turnout he’ll need to get elected, I think Nelson will win too, partly on Gillum’s coattails. But we could wake up November 7th with a racist Trump sycophant heading for Tallahassee and a reptilian crook heading to Washington to join Rubio the Spineless. I’m trying not to panic, but it’s going to be a scary couple of months. Probably more than you wanted to know! :)

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Steve in the ATL: ETA: my victory was not a statement of my good progress, but rather of the drunkenness and disorder of our group

    And since you’re all interested, it was 130 yards and I used an 8-iron. Ping Eye 2, red dot. Still have that set in my garage! Along with five others….

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Betty Cracker: to my great shame, and/or pride, I knew where you got the thread title the second I read it!

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    Elizabelle says:

    Michael Eric Dyson takes the stage at Aretha’s funeral:

    “To President Clinton. And her husband Bill.”

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    Mary G says:

    Michael Eric Dyson got up at Aretha’s funeral and gave his regards to President Clinton and her husband Bill. Love it!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Betty Cracker: Probably more than you wanted to know!

    On the contrary. Scott’s success makes me crazy because he’s a fucking medicare fraudster getting elected by old white people in God’s Waiting Room, fercrissake! I remembered he got in the first time with a splitter third party, didn’t remember about the second round

    But the fake astronaut thing is annoying. (He got to hitch a ride on a shuttle as a congressman; he’s actually a lawyer.)

    I’ll be damned. I never went deep into his bio– I think anyone would fall asleep by the end of the first sentence, but my understanding was he was a lesser-known but honest-to-god astronaut, like Major Tony Nelson

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    Mary G says:

    @Elizabelle: Jinx! I owe you a drink.

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    Calouste says:

    @JPL: And besides, 60 days from election day is next Friday, not today (most years it would have indeed been the Friday before labor day, but not this year). Mueller still has 4 working days to indict Rohrabacher, Nunez, etc.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @JCJ: Now, imagine Bibi retooling that as “Palestienfrei”.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Mary G: I will make sure to get out West and collect it.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Oh that’s right. We still get Stevie Wonder. This has been incredible.

    Has Chaka Khan performed yet?

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    jl says:

    Really irritating to hear total slimeballs like Pence, Ryan and McConnell headlined almost nonstop in the news reports this morning talking at McC’s postmortem appearance at the Capitol today. And that just sunk in even more when I read Pence saying today that the GOP will continue to try to completely repeal ‘Obamacare’.

    McC had an extremely mixed record, but I do credit him with his vote to stop the GOP health reform repeal scam (the famous 2 AM thumbs down stunt he pulled). He had some limits and I think the total fraud of that attempt offended him. But McC was very mixed, and if he had been able to continue Senate attendance he may well have voted for an equally bad plan that he sincerely believed was OK.

    Another part of McC’s very mixed record was on economic policy. He could support very good and solid and also absolutely nutso economic policies. I think he had no clue about economics, and it all depended on who he snagged for his economic advisers at a given time. Zandi was good, and the McCain camp had some good proposals for the 2007 financial panic. Other advisers were GOP hacks. I noticed that McCain couldn’t formulate one sensible word on economics when he was on his own and trying to talk economic policy. That sure showed when he participated in public brainstorming conferences during the 2007-8 financial panic.

    But, whatever McC’s mixed record, Pence and Ryan and McConnell are far worse.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Along with five others….

    What do you do with six sets of clubs? you got six arms?

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    Elizabelle says:

    This orange apparition …. you lugubrious leach. You …. doppleganger… foolish fascist. I cannot keep up!

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    Mary G says:

    @Elizabelle: Yes, she has. Michael is trashing “The Orange Apparition” and it’s giving me life. He’s got the crowd on its feet.

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    @efgoldman:

    Why do I fall asleep at about this time every afternoon?

    Because you CAN.

    You’ve earned it. I say go for it.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Mary G: I hope they are registering voters for blocks around. And making sure people have their ID in order. Vote. Vote. Vote.

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    jl says:

    The very idea of the likes of McConnell and Ryan piously intone about the evils of hypocrisy this morning was, in the words of Alexander Hamilton (I think, maybe it was Madison), ‘a spectacle both hilarious and disgusting’.

    OK, I think Madison was ‘a tragedy or a farce, perhaps both’.

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    @Mary G: It’s a sign of my age and Detroit girlhood that I’m thinking OMG, it’s Smokey.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Elizabelle: @Mary G:
    Heh, love it to pieces.

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    SFAW says:

    Saw Andrew Gillum interviewed yesterday AM. He was asked whether — in light of DeSantis saying that Gillum would “monkey things up” (or something similar to that) — whether he thought DeSantis was a racist. Much to my amazement, Gillum did NOT say “No.” And although he did not say “Yeah, he’s a straight-up racist,” he pointed out that DeSantis hadn’t apologized, and appeared to be doubling down. I don’t think that Gillum pointed out the FB page DeSantis helps moderate, but there’s plenty of time for that.

    Gillum also claimed he got something like (I think) $30K in donations (of $10 and $20) when he visited The Villages. [Note: Until I done read about The Villages here, I had no idea of the significance.] So that’s a hopeful sign.

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    Martin says:

    @TenguPhule: That’s not fair to Duncan! I could care less if his wife was involved in a lot of them. He was the candidate, it was his responsibility, and what kind of a shitty coward husband blames his wife anyway? Pretty sure at least one of his kids is still in K-12. What kind of shitty dad looks at felony charges against himself and his wife, looks at his kids, and says ‘My wife did it!’. No, for the sake of your kids, you admit to your wrongdoing and cut a deal to spare your wife any prison time so your kids can at least have one parent.

    Fuck I hate these fake-ass family values, morals flag waving motherfuckers.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @efgoldman:

    What do you do with six sets of clubs?

    Replace the clubs thrown into the water hazards after blowing a par 3 shot.

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    efgoldman says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Replace the clubs thrown into the water hazards after blowing a par 3 shot.

    Ah. The usual steely self-control of a union arbitration lawyer.

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    Mary G says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Me Too! Smokey and Stevie both my crushes.

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    Totally OT but I am going down to the pads tomorrow Blackberry picking, will also pick some apples from the communal orchard if there are any left and perhaps some Hazelnuts because I love them. I am so grateful to be home and living in a community like this.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @efgoldman:

    Ah. The usual steely self-control of a union arbitration lawyer.

    Worse, a lot of them don’t tip the caddies.

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    Changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace this morning. RESPECT, Aretha.

    https://twitter.com/JulieDash/status/1035565185556258817

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    And Auntie Maxine does the Wakanda salute.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Martin: I rejoice that both shitty Republicans are gonna get it good and hard. Hunter helped ruin too many other families with his shitty record in Congress.

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    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    I suppose an even worse possibility is that they are screening and these are the people they choose.

    Given that Stephen Miller is probably one of the people doing the screening, I suspect this is it.

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    JPL says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: That gave me goosebumps, and thank you for the link.

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    les says:

    @jl:

    Another part of McC’s very mixed record was on economic policy. He could support very good and solid and also absolutely nutso economic policies.

    Hey, c’mon, he knew how to steal from federally insured savings and loans. He know his personal economics.

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    Kent says:

    I suppose one plus side to climate change is that Hilton Head will be one of the first places to wash away.

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    jl says:

    @Martin: I for one am waiting for convincing evidence that Duncon Jr. has sobered up before I judge him. I am fair and balanced!

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    Aleta says:

    I have a question about the admissions lawsuit against Harvard that the administration is loudly supporting. (DOJ filed a statement of interest and Sessions, DeVos, others made proclamations.)

    Sessions: “As a recipient of taxpayer dollars, Harvard has a responsibility to conduct its admissions policy without racial discrimination by using meaningful admissions criteria that met lawful requirements.”

    Harvard is private. It receives research funding from the federal government– is the lawsuit tying those project grants to their student admissions policy? Aren’t the feds the ones who select which grant applications they will fund, so it’s on the awarding federal agency? (And afaik, applicants who seek, say, to include lab operations funding must adhere to EEOC rules when they hire, say, lab techs who aren’t students.)

    I suppose that since research grants are written to support x grad students and y undergrads, that could be related to admissions policy in a roundabout way–is that what the DOJ is claiming? Or is it because a portion of each federal grant that a university receives has to be paid to the university for overhead — administration, lights, space?

    I know that a political issue is that universities don’t pay tax on money accumulated from endowments. The conservatives call that “federal subsidies” and unfair tax breaks. (That’s rich). But that seems unrelated to being “a recipient of taxpayer dollars” as Sessions claimed.
    Info about the lawsuit, which says that Harvard “has never seriously considered race-neutral alternatives in its more than 45 years of using race to make admissions decisions,” is at https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/us/politics/asian-students-affirmative-action-harvard.html

    .

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    jl says:

    @les: He knew how to not get caught when I think a bipartisan half a dozen of other Congresscritters did get caught, and I think 4 got sanctioned, back in the 80s. So, pro is that he was bipartisan. Con, is apparently he put some knowledge of economics to bad use.

    Mixed: a ‘reformer’ was born!

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    @The Moar You Know:

    That’s no mystery, that’s straight up money laundering through a Neo-Nazi group.

    Citizens United says this is a permissible outside expenditure. Those Neo-Nazis are just exercising their free speech.

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    HeleninEire says:

    @JPL: I saw that. They are not giving the dates. I will be in America from Nov 2 to 8. If that fucker is here after that, anywhere in the country, I will join the protests. I try really hard not to talk about Irish politics here because I just don’t know enough about it. But when the Irish talk to me about American politics and don’t have a clue I want to scream. There are people here who actually argue American politics with me. But here’s what I need to say: Leo needs to stand his ground and say “Not on my watch you anti-civil rights asshole. And by the way asshole Donald, why has the American Ambassador to Ireland been vacant for 2 years. The easiest Ambassador to appoint and you don’t give a shit to do it.

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    jl says:

    @SFAW: I think Gillum is playing his response just right so far. He looks to be a very formidable candidate.

    I watched an interview where he promised with a wry smile, to be very ‘articulate’ in his response. Very nice.

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    Kent says:

    @Aleta:

    I think Federal student loans and grants count as “taxpayer dollars” when it comes to this sort of thing. So as long as Harvard provides student loans and pell grants as a component of financial aid packages they fall under federal anti-discrimination statutes. That is why certain uber-right wing colleges have refused to take student loan dollars such as Hillsdale College and Grove City College

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/07/the-controversial-reason-some-religious-colleges-forgo-federal-funding/490253/

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    efgoldman says:

    @Aleta:

    Info about the lawsuit, which says that Harvard “has never seriously considered race-neutral alternatives in its more than 45 years of using race to make admissions decisions,”

    Basically, Harvard is the elitiest of elite Northeastern Universities. Buncha’ snobby assholes, conservatives have always thought. Any opportunity to fuck with the school in Cambridge is Evil Leprekkkaun’s Nirvana.

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    sukabi says:

    @Jeffro: he was one of 50 moderators, has quit (removed himself?) from admin roll…(or changed his name for admin list. Who knows with these h8ers?)

    Claims he didn’t know he was part of the group 😵 https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/08/31/ron-desantis-leaves-racist-facebook-group-says-unknowingly-member/

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    rikyrah says:

    Solo Sports Brother Big T

    @SoloSportsComms
    22m22 minutes ago
    More
    OMG!! Prof. Dyson, Calling out the “Orange Appirition”
    “You Lugubrious Leech!!
    You Dopey Doppelganger of Deceit and Deviance!
    You Lethal Liar!!
    You Dimwitted Dictator!!
    You Foolish Fascist!!”

    DAMN!!!
    #arethahomegoing

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    rikyrah says:

    I have been watching Aretha Franklin’s funeral since 10 am this morning..LOL

    it’s been a wonderful Homegoing service.

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    HeleninEire says:

    @John Revolta: This.

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    How fitting is it that the guy’s name is Ian Smith?

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    B.B.A. says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: The writers are getting lazy.

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    Gremcat says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I know exactly how you feel. There is a commercial running that actually makes the claim that Democrats are the ones who will take your social security and Medicare away and that Nelson voted to cut $700B from medicare. It ends with Democrats are trying to “steal” your ss/medicare. This coming from the actual scumbag that was fined $1.7B for Medicare fraud. It’s always projection with these people.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Betty Cracker: Nelson may have a chance with some of the more “independent-y” residents of The Villages who look at the old white guy and see someone like them or their husbands.

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    Martin says:

    @Kent: Exactly. In order for an institution to be eligible for federal financial aid programs, they have to comply with federal education requirements (Title IX, etc.) Even in the case of Harvard, that money is critical. Less well known is that depending on what rules you violate, you can lose access to federal grant money, and that’s a VERY big risk for Harvard, particularly if it would affect grant funding to their medical program which is north of $1B per year.

    Now, the feds have never been too aggressive in this sort of thing, but this crew is pretty fucking unpredictable.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @rikyrah: Me too. Never seen anything like this, nor likely will again. And Stevie Wonder still to come. It’s been a banquet.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Chaka did perform :)

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    rikyrah says:

    Karen Maria Alston

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    For those asking why Minister Louis Farrakhan is at the funeral #ArethaFranklinHomegoing #arethahomegoing

    https://twitter.com/advertisingdiva/status/1035631420281180166

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    Jeffro says:

    @Thoughtful David: Not quite – I’ll be moving there next year, though. Smack-dab in the middle!

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    Elizabelle says:

    @rikyrah: I missed her. Although I will be able to find her on youtube, etc. later. Sometimes, one must leave the room …

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    Jeffro says:

    @Aleta: Oopsie, then! I’m sure it’s just a coincidence/he was framed by the Deep State/but what about Hillary???

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    debbie says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I don’t understand the third one:

    ➡️Trump intends to notify Congress of a deal despite postponed talks

    “Congratulations, Sir, on a job not done!”

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    rikyrah says:

    Kimberly Bryant

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    Most of the gospel songs performed during #ArethaHomegoing #ArethaFranklinFuneral are those she performed on her iconic Amazing Grace live album. #Intention

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    rikyrah says:

    More
    Let the choir say amen! 11 memorable moments from our celebrity elders at Aretha Franklin’s homegoing service https://bit.ly/2oqQM2s #ArethaHomegoing

    https://twitter.com/Blavity/status/1035636381303730176

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    @Jeffro: Hillary and Obama ARE the Deep State.

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    Mary G says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Queen @RepMaxineWaters dancing and singing along to Chaka Khan is my religion 🙌 #ArethaHomegoing pic.twitter.com/6Slaz7uGRv— Elizabeth Vogt (@elizvogt) August 31, 2018

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @debbie: I don’t understand the third one:

    Basically just lying so Fox can report another international victory to the deplorables

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Mary G: Thank you. Dang. I was probably making a sandwich.

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    sukabi says:

    A guilty plea and cooperation with Mueller, just another guy in drumpf’s orbit.

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    Elizabelle says:

    This gentleman is giving the audience the jitters. Probably more effective when not at the end of a 6 hour service. Wind it down, sir.

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    JPL says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Praise the lord! Now when do we all get saved?

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    Elizabelle says:

    Seriously, I would call this guy “the chiller.” Took all the momentum out of the service. More about him than about Aretha. Everyone else was superb.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @rikyrah:

    I have that CD and haven’t listened to it in years but I’m just about to.

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    jl says:

    @JPL: Watch out what you say. BillingGlendale recently revealed in comments on this very blog that he just happens to be God. I guess someone has to put up with the job, didn’t know BillingGlendale got stuck with it.

    Some of the Old Testament stuff makes more sense now, though.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Gladys Knight can bring everyone back to life. She looks fabulous. Excellent voice.

    As they set up Stevie Wonder’s keyboard nearby.

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    rikyrah says:

    Stevie bringing the Holy Ghost with a harmonica!

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @rikyrah:

    My God, the Lord’s Prayer has never been performed like that! What a master!

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    Elizabelle says:

    @rikyrah: He is so good.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    MAKE LOVE GREAT AGAIN!

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    Jeffro says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: You’d never know it to look at them…they sure seem pretty ‘chill’, as the kids say, considering all the strings they’re supposedly pulling.

    Actually now that I think about it, it was probably Obama being ‘chill’ as twice-frozen ice cubes during the whole Bin Laden operation that sent the tinfoil hat brigade into overdrive. “ITSINHUMANHOWCANHEHAVEALLTHATSHITGOINGONANDSTILLFUNCTIONMUCHLESSSMILE?!?!?!?1?”

    Because he’s OBAMA, you nitwits…

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    Elizabelle says:

    @zhena gogolia: Brought the young Franklin family to their feet.

    “Black lives do matter. All lives matter.”

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    rikyrah says:

    Talia Whyte

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    Stevie Wonder: “We need to make love great again, because black lives do matter” #arethahomegoing

    3:28 PM – 31 Aug 2018

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    mozzerb says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Wait, a white supremacist named Ian Smith?!

    Glad it wasn’t just me who thought that …

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    zhena gogolia says:

    OMG I missed Chaka Khan earlier, but she looks fantastic!

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    Aleta says:

    @efgoldman: I see it as an attack on affirmative action, in this case in admissions policy, rather than on Harvard. But I think you’re right, the choice of Harvard instead of a public U would be from hatred or politics.

    Two months ago, at Fortune:
    Obama-Era Guidelines on Using Race in College Admissions Decisions To Be Reversed by Trump Administration

    A year ago at the WaPost:
    Article about the white legacy student who didn’t get into UT Austin and sued and lost (2014-16; went to the SC), and the wrong assumptions behind these attacks. We still need affirmative action for African Americans in college admissions.

    The ugly part about the Harvard suit is that the focus is headlined as something like “Asian American students suing Harvard for admissions discrimination.” And the sleazy part is, seems like the case would be harder to make against a private university. They must want bonus points for the play act — we’re going after rich elites–no not us–them. Like you suggested.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Love this song.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    This is the America I love (Aretha’s funeral). I hope we can lance the pustulent boil of Trump and all that he represents.

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    Aleta says:

    Sorry I’m missing the tributes to Ms. Franklin. Can’t stream or play videos or anything.

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    Jeffro says:

    Jesus this is harsh and also entirely appropriate: Rest In Peace, Lindsey Graham.

    Dana Milbank, why I doooo de-clay-uh: is working for the same outfit that publishes Catherine Rampell and Alexandra Petri rubbing off on you?

    We lost two mavericks within a week.

    On Saturday, we lost the legendary John McCain.

    On Tuesday, we lost his loyal sidekick, Sen. Lindsey O. Graham.

    Graham remains alive and well, but after serving for two decades as Robin to McCain’s Batman, Graham buried whatever remained of his own reputation for iconoclasm even before his partner’s funeral.

    On Tuesday, Graham took a seat on the couch of “Fox & Friends,” President Trump’s favorite show, and sealed his transition from apostate to Trump apparatchik.

    “Hello, burn unit? Yeah, it’s a bad one. It doesn’t look like he’s going to make it.”

    …This came after Graham abandoned his previous support of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, whom Trump wants to fire as a likely precursor to ending special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia investigation. A year ago, Graham declared himself “100 percent behind Jeff Sessions” and vowed “holy hell” if Sessions was fired.

    But now, Graham says “we need an attorney general that can work with the president.” This week, he even alleged on CBS News that Sessions “blindsided” Trump with “zero-tolerance” family separations — as though that policy wasn’t a Trump signature.

    Graham previously described Trump as a “jackass” and “unfit for office.” He began his pivot after the election, but intensified his embrace of Trump as illness kept McCain from Washington. “If you don’t like me working with President Trump to make the world a better place, I don’t give a shit,” he said on CNN in June. This week, he demurred on renaming a Senate building for his friend, and though displeased by Trump’s posthumous insults of McCain, he said it is the president’s right “to feel any way he’d like.”

    So here is the rationale…the same thing that made his “Mavericky” buddy roll over on the Confederate flag and other issues (although to be fair, eventually McCain recanted): he’s a politician who wants to get re-elected to the World’s Most Exclusive Club (and oh hey possibly some Russian dirt on his after-hours interests)

    …Graham’s rationale for courting Trump? “ To be relevant.” But on the main policy Graham sought to influence — immigration — he got nothing. I asked Graham’s office for presidential actions attributable to Graham’s influence. The response listed items — Supreme Court appointments, the fight against Islamic State and increased defense spending — that were all Trump priorities independent of Graham.

    It seems more likely Graham’s friendship with Trump has to do with Graham’s reelection in 2020. That’s understandable. Even McCain had to be delicate about Trump during a 2016 primary challenge. But what happened to cause-greater-than-self?

    “I believe there is a little John McCain in all of us,” Graham said in his touching eulogy on the Senate floor. I saw a lot of McCain in the Graham I met on the Straight Talk Express two decades ago. I saw it again earlier this year when Graham lamented Trump’s sudden shift that killed the immigration compromise. “I don’t know where that guy went,” Graham said of the Trump who, briefly, offered to compromise. “I want him back.”

    Good luck with that, Lindsey.

    Unfortunately, Milbank weakens this whole thing with his very last line, where he asks for “that” Graham back, too. Me, I merely hated the old Lindsey Graham. The current one, I despise just like all the other GOP cowards. I don’t want either of them back, but the current version has earned a stop on my processed Bud Light disposal tour.

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    debbie says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Who is “this gentleman”?

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    Mary G says:

    Now that was a funeral fit for a Queen.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Aleta:

    I hope a lot of it is available on YouTube later. I missed Chaka Khan. Stevie Wonder’s performance of the Lord’s Prayer on harmonica, and his words, and the song “Always,” are something I will always (!) remember.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @debbie:

    I assume it’s Jasper Williams. I missed it but it was apparently bad.

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    debbie says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Thanks. I had to Google him, but it seems they’ve worked together in the past.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @rikyrah: Errgh, was just in an argument with a friend who responded to a complaint about the profusion of Nazis on social media by whatabouting about Farrakhan and the Panthers.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Does nobody screen applicants to work in the WH? In 2008, anyone who wanted to work for Obama had to fill out a long form that included info about everything they ever posted online.

    OMG, that means I would have to tell them about my life on B-J!?!?! I’m banned from working at the White House forever!!!

    Oh Noes!!!

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    Elizabelle says:

    @debbie: Yes it was Jasper Williams. Jasper Pound Cake Pound Cake Pound Cake Williams.

    Haranguing the audience about how important fathers are and how lacking in the Black Community. At the Queen of Soul’s funeral.

    Longwinded, self-important; couldn’t read the audience because they were all bored, bored, bored. Don’t watch; it’s 30 plus minutes of your life that you will never get back, and to no advantage.

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    Jay says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Point out to him that “whataboutism” was a Soviet Propaganda tactic used to deflect from the discussion rather than engage in the issues.

    So why is he using Communist tactics to protect Nazi’s on twitter?

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    Aleta says:

    @zhena gogolia: Thanks. I feel a tear come just from your description.

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    debbie says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Thanks. What a lousy thing to do at that time.

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    Shana says:

    @Jeffro: Yeah, Barbara Comstock, FU.

    Possibly interesting story: Her husband was the Vice Principal at my daughters’ high school, prior to Barbara running for office. When my older daughter started as a freshman she looked over the list of clubs, saw that there was a Young Republicans club but no Young Democrats club so she decided to start one. Went to the administration to find out what the requirements were. Turns out they needed a teacher in the Government department to sign on as a sponsor, but getting just that information from Mr. Comstock was like pulling teeth. She did get a teacher to sign on as their sponsor, but Mr. C continued to be at least unhelpful and at most actively working against whatever the club wanted to do: put up signs for meetings, etc.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Shana:

    Republicans don’t believe in Democracy, not at all. Your experience shows that, proves that, in living history. Thanks to your daughter, to the teacher she got to help sponsor a Young Democrats club at her high school. Please pass it along.

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    MoxieM says:

    @Jager: har har… I was thinking of plebeian things like Hosenscheißer or Kotzbrocken. (Pants-shitter or lump of puke). Lump of puke works.

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    Shalimar says:

    The shocking part is that absolutely everyone knows that a search of Stephen Miller’s emails over that period would produce exactly the same thing, but he keeps his job because they aren’t embarrassed that everyone knows what he is.

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    cleosmom says:

    @James E Powell:

    Hillary called them deplorable and the entire press/media world clutched pearls and headed for the fainting couch. I am going to hate all of them for the rest of my life

    I second that. I started hating them around 1996.

    My mother’s standard-issue response to statements of that kind was “now, you don’t hate anybody.” But in addition to not having either the knowledge or the authority for that statement, she was a lifelong Republican.

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