It Doesn’t Get Much More Floriduh! Man Than This! Florida State House District 1 Edition

Plaza named for Robert E. Lee? Check!

Confederate monument? Check!

Fake mockup of the President’s Hollywood Walk of Fame star? Check!

Wingnut running for elected office? Check!

Pensacola News Journal take it away!

A former state representative and current candidate for Florida House District 1 wants to bring President Donald Trump’s Hollywood Walk of Fame star to Pensacola.

Mike Hill announced via a Facebook Live video Wednesday that he wanted to put the Trump Hollywood star in Pensacola.

“Pensacola, the first settlement in America, is also going to be the city that is going to bring the Trump Hollywood star here to Pensacola,” Hill said in the video. “I want you to join me, Pensacola.”

Hill made the announcement while holding a life-size photo of the Trump star in front of the Confederate monument in Lee Square in downtown Pensacola with a campaign sign for his state House run placed next to him.

“When I’m in office, I’ll be able to do even more to make sure that this star gets here and stays here,” Hill said in the video. “Let’s go, Pensacola. Let’s make this work.”

Hill told the News Journal on Thursday that the video was not a political stunt.

“I did not create the timing of when the star was destroyed in Hollywood,” Hill said. “… Even if I were not running for office, this would be something that I would do because I so support our president Donald Trump and what he is doing.”

Hill is running for the Republican nomination for House District 1. The seat is being vacated by Rep. Clay Ingram, who is term limited. District 1 covers much of Escambia County, mostly north of the city limits of Pensacola.

Hill said he would raise the money for the star through donations and possibly hold an online contest to pick a location for the star.

Once a location is decided, Hill said he would petition the city of Pensacola to place the star at that location.

Hill said the decision to make the announcement in front of the Confederate monument was just where he happened to be when he met a friend to shoot the video, but he added that he supports keeping the Confederate monument.

“History is what makes us up as a people,” Hill said. “The good, the bad and the ugly, and we learn from it, and we move on, getting better from it. Not tearing it down and trying to forget it.”

Hill said he thought putting the Trump star in Pensacola hits all three levels of government.

“It’s a national issue: showing support for our president and what he’s doing,” Hill said. “It’s a state level issue: respecting our monuments as they are erected, including perhaps a Trump star, and at the local level: where we decide where it’s going to be placed as a people.”

Supporting treason in the defense of slavery is no way to go through life, let alone seek public service.

Open thread!

138 replies
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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    there’s nothing to this story!

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: and Truth isn’t Truth! What a week so far.

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    Mart says:

    More empty Floriduh! Man promises.

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    Leto says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Total Florida Man post.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:


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    oatler. says:

    Well, we have Oregon Man sentenced for harassing a bison.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Gin & Tonic: You win

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    A gator ate my post!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Mart: We apologize for the technical difficulties. If you would go up top, you’ll now see the actual post.

    I’d like to blame it on hostile foreign bots or WP, but to be honest I hit the publish button when I meant to hit a different button after doing the title, but not entering the body of the post.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    And… of course the second I post (with no edit button) the post appears! TA-DA!


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    Platonailedit says:

    It’s all part of infrastructure week, dude.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: I actually had a gator post, but it’ll run tomorrow night or over the weekend.

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    Remember when the tea party wave took over Tampa and their first order of business was de-fluoridating the water? That was pretty Florida too.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I thought you’d gone all po-mo in honor of Rudi

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: What did he do now?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Adam L Silverman: ‘truth is not truth’

    but more recently, gave a phone interview to a WaPo reporter who made a point of saying that when they spoke, he was in Scotland, where it was late in the evening, like maybe five-single-malts-thirty at night

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Hopefully not another beloved pet gator eats beloved pet dog story with embedded video. Wait! Did a gator eat Rick Scott? Charlie Christ? Bondi, Pam Bondi???

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Okay. I knew about all those. Wasn’t sure if I missed anything while I was at the gym.

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    NotMax says:

    This ship won’t ever leave the dock. The stars are co-owned/administered by the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce and the Hollywood Historic Trust.

    That’s Hollywood as in California, not Hollywood, FL.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: Nope, nothing like that.

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    Yutsano says:

    Pensacola, the first settlement in America

    That’s a wee bit of a stretch since the first settlement failed. St Augustine says “O hai der!”

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I had not seen that. Nor did I know about it. Didn’t get much coverage at all when it happened.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Yutsano: Vineland.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yutsano: Yep.

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    efgoldman says:

    I am taking a combination of multiple high-test antibiotics. They are playing hell with what’s left of my brain. [insert obligatory jackal wise-ass remarks here.] The nearest I can describe the feeling is like being in a constant state of being almost drunk. It is not fun; the world moves in slo-mo.
    Even if I were driving, I couldn’t drive. I can barely stay awake enough to eat or drink. I fall asleep randomly for an hour or more.

    Good news: Refi closing is 9/5. We can get the septic done, with some left over.

    Random observation: There’s a late Harry Potter movie running in the background. I never read the books; I’m not following at all; but I’m enjoying the set pieces.

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    catclub says:

    I was wondering about the NC “Don’t remove all our confederate monuments law’ I wonder if you could put up tars all around those monuments?

    I could search and read it, but that would take work.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Croatoan!

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    Gin & Tonic says:


    We can get the septic done, with some left over.

    Sure hope that’s money left over, and not shit.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @catclub: Whats a tars?

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    NotMax says:


    Not to mention that the first settlement in America was almost fer sure in what is now Alaska.

    Also too, In Pensacola, the Pensacolans were there long before Yurpeens.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Oh dear. The cover of tomorrow's @NYDailyNews.

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 24, 2018

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    Mike J says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Pynchon? Nah, that was west coast. (I know, I know.)

    My favorite Floriduh man story today was:

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    some idiot wants to bring trump’s Hollywood Star to Florida?!


    (grabs a sledgehammer)

    ROAD TRIP! Who’s with me!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Adam L Silverman: well, Rachel Maddow had an interesting bit suggesting the Saudis have been bankrolling trump’s Pecker, which if it pans out could make things interesting– AMI published a very expensive and glossy love letter to the “Magic Kingdom” that was placed in every Walmart in the country, kinda weird, and apparently Pecker brought a high-ranking aide to the crown prince to the White House as his guest. Got his picture took in the Oval Office with The Rough Beast (I think I have that right)

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Half a henway?


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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @efgoldman: You’re not drugged. My kids and grandkids have made me watch dozens of Harry Potter movies (how many of the damn things are there?), stone cold sober and I couldn’t tell you the plot of a single one. The sets are cool though.

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    MomSense says:

    I’m enjoying such a peaceful evening watching with my dog lying at my feet – but holy €!?<#^£’€!<~}}<£¥¥¥ she is farting non stop in her sleep. She never does this. I’m guessing my mom fell for her superior begging abilities and gave her a lot of forbidden nibbles today.

    It smells like dead rodent stuffed cabbage leaves.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: OT: How you all doing?

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    efgoldman says:


    I wonder if you could put up tars all around those monuments?

    Robber tars? Next to the bob warr?

    @Gin & Tonic: Yeah, money. There’s always shit left over

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Platonailedit: Here you go!

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @NotMax: Okay… I’ll bite (rolls eyes)… what’s a henway?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Haven’t seen Maddow yet – she’s on the DVR. But that is not exactly a state secret.

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    Hmmm, hope that guy got permission of the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce to use a likeness of their property in his ad. They tend to be really picky about that kind of stuff. Oh, he seemed to have forgotten that even if Pensacola would consent to “host” Trump’s star, IT IS STILL OWNED BY THE HOLLYWOOD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: Try a bit.

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    jl says:

    @PaulWartenberg: It’s too tacky and low class looking. Pensacola is the loser sticks. Trump won’t go for it even if the Hollywood (CA) brass went for the idea.

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    So far, so wet. Tonight and all of tomorrow brings the bulk of it, though the off weather will last through the weekend.

    @The Midnight Lurker

    About 5 pounds.


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    Lapassionara says:

    @Platonailedit: Hmmmm. What an image.

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    MomSense says:


    Sending you a hug, EFG. Read the books or listen to the audio version. The voice actor is wonderful. You may be able to download them from your library. Do it! I’ve read the series a few times now and I’ve been thinking of getting the audio books to listen to while I work.

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    @PaulWartenberg: The subway(Red Line) will take me to it’s current location. It’s right outside the Hollywood/Highland station.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @PaulWartenberg: I’m in! As long as we do the confederate traitors ‘monument’ at the same time. Criss cross.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    Further proof the GOP is now a cult of personality for Trump.

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    jl says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: You sound a little panic. You want it in your neck of the woods. Glendale, or Simi Valley or Eagle Rock? Whatever. It would look good under Eagle Rock, which could crumble all over it for the rest of earth’s existence.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Great, just great.

    And before anyone asks, I have no idea if this group is really legit or a troll operation. I’ve never heard of it before now. Huey P. Newton Gun Club? That’s legit. John Brown Gun Club? Legit. Pink Pistols? Legit. There’s even a liberal gun club, which I think goes by Liberal Gun Club, somewhere in California that I’ve heard of. This I’d never heard of before.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    As my people say: Adoi!

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Was that who paid for that? I remember seeing that at every register’s magazine rack where I work

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    some guy says:

    2 Florida (wo)man stories in one night? whooohoo.

    the second time I was in Pensacola was on the return from an MLA conference in NOLA. twe stopped to eat and swim. he beach right in downtown at the pier is some of the clearest and coolest water I ever swam in. ever, and I have lived here for 20 something years. sure that part of the Handle is not like I remembered it now, but yeah, the far USN reaches of the Sunshine State is filled with MAGAts who will eat this up.

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Some more detail, from very early Thursday morning.

    Deep tropical moisture surrounding Hurricane Lane continues to surge northward with heavy rain showers extending over 300 miles from the center of the hurricane
    Over Maui County, damaging winds will likely begin this evening, with dangerous hurricane force winds possible starting tonight or Friday morning.
    According to the [Central Pacific Hurrican Center]…Lane is moving toward the northwest near 7 mph. A slow northward motion is expected to begin today. A turn toward the west is expected Saturday and Sunday, with an increase in forward speed. On the forecast track, the center of Lane will move over, or dangerously close to portions of the main Hawaiian islands later today through Friday.

    Maximum sustained winds are near 130 mph with higher gusts. Some weakening is forecast during the next 48 hours, although Lane is expected to remain a hurricane as it draws closer to the islands.

    Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 35 miles from the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 140 miles.

    NOAA Buoy 51002 located about 250 miles southwest of the Big Island reported a peak wind of 107 mph as the northwest eyewall of Lane passed over. The buoy is now reporting light winds in the eye of the hurricane.
    Rain bands will continue to overspread the Hawaiian Islands well ahead of Lane. Excessive rainfall associated with this slow moving hurricane will continue to impact the Hawaiian Islands into the weekend, leading to significant and life-threatening flash flooding and landslides. Lane is expected to produce total rain accumulations of 10 to 20 inches, with localized amounts in excess of 30 inches over the Hawaiian Islands. Nearly 20 inches of rain has already fallen on portions of the Big Island. Source

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: Stay safe! And check in as much as you can so we know you’re doing okay.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Good to hear from you. Hang in there!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Go Noodles!!!

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I’m thinking it’s a troll operation.Everyone knows that GUNZ ARE FREEDOM!!1! and sosialists hate freedom.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Yeah, it was entitled “The New Kingdom”. Total propaganda. I remember being creeped out when I first saw it

    A major US publisher linked to Trump allies has put out a 97-page propaganda spread on the Saudi crown prince

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Amir Khalid: Gesundheit!

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    Pete Downunder says:

    O/T – Breaking news. Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull resigns after spill motion (motion to chose new leader) passes Liberal Party. Now three-way battle between RWNJ and two slightly less RWs. Liberal Party is nominally center right (and thus mis-named) but has been edging more rightward.

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    Ruckus says:

    I am sorry. But. LOL.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Aussies break the no. of PM’s you can oust record.

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    MomSense says:


    Hope you come through this storm safe and sound.

    I’m just about to start The Guernsey Literary and Peel Pie Society. I’ve heard good things.

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    @efgoldman: that sounds awful! But do enjoy the set pieces, that’s what they’re there for.

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    Pete Downunder says:

    @Platonailedit: We’re in hot competition with Italy. Last PM to serve a full term was John Howard who lost an election in 2007.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Pete Downunder:

    Liberal Party is nominally center right (and thus mis-named) but has been edging more rightward.

    That sure sounds familiar. Sounds a lot like our very own Republican Party.

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    Joel says:

    @Yutsano: Somewhere around Mexico City is the earliest known settlement, although assuredly there were earlier ones in Alaska (assuming the Bering Strait migration hypothesis is correct).

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    NotMax says:


    Sounds most enervating, but beats the hell out of being in the hospital, yes?

    New scooter arrive?

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Pete Downunder:
    I’ve always wondered: how did the conservative party in Australia get the Liberal name? Was there once an even more right-wing Conservative Party?

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    @Amir Khalid: just guessing but it’s probably named after classical-/neo-liberalism.

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    Pete Downunder says:

    Scott Morrison new Australian PM. Pretty serious right winger but better than the worst available. Currently treasurer. With PM resigning from parliament Liberals will lose majority so next few days could be intense. We can barely spare attention for Trump’s latest atrocities

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    MomSense says:


    FML, Ruckus. F M L!

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    efgoldman says:


    New scooter arrive?

    ~3 month lead time.
    Rain on top of lava should create spectacular steam show.

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    @jl: Heh, you know who went to college in Eagle Rock for 2 years?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Pete Downunder: If the Liberals lose the majority, that will trigger new elections, correct? Or do they have some sort of whacky just run a by election to fill the one seat and then see what happens?

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    Greg Boggis says:

    Looks like Pecker is all in.

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    NotMax says:

    Blanket thank you for all the well wishes over multiple threads.

    Will muddle through. (Or, in honor of efgoldman above, will muggle through.)

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    Emma says:

    @Platonailedit: *gigglesnort*

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    Doug R says:

    @Yutsano: Vinland says “Uff da!”

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    This is so true!!!

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    Platonailedit says:

    @Adam L Silverman: LOL. So true.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

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    Ruckus says:

    I don’t think you get to steal the whole show.

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    @NotMax: I didn’t offer my best wishes, I was in Venice* this afternoon. Hope you got everything tied down and have all the necessary supplies.

    *The one in California, not Italy.

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    FlyingToaster says:


    Even if I were driving, I couldn’t drive.

    Obligatory: Except in Boston. Given the insanity I had to deal with on the roads today — left turn on red into bumper to bumper traffic, sitting through the entire green arrow putting on makeup —you’d fit RIGHT in.

    @efgoldman@The Midnight Lurker: I’ve never read the books, but I understand the movies:

    1) possible messiah stolen back from cruel relatives to be trained in his messiah-hood, gaines scoobies
    2) possible messiah kills giant snake, saves girl
    3) possble messiah saves fugitive godparent, his scoobies learn about time travel
    4) possible messiah hoodwinked into competition, wins, villian kills competitor and returns from exile
    5) possible messiah must become an autodidact and covert instructor when the school is taken over by villian’s henchwoman
    6) possible messiah finds lab notes of professor he hates; headmaster dies.
    7a) possible messiah and scoobies forced to go on the lam when villians minions take over; finds and destroys items that weaken the villian
    7b) possible messiah and scoobies find and destroy reminaining items, including possible messiah. Possible messiah comes back to life with the school blown to bits and half the people dead. Gives up the messiah business.

    Add cool sets and magic, but it’s a bog-standard morality saga. IMNSHO.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    It’s the kind of day where I order a BBLTA at Corner Bakery and they bring me a Turkey Avocado by mistake.

    I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel when it comes to getting the craft room ready for my post-surgery recovery, but now I’m starting to freak out that I’m having fucking arthroscopic surgery next week.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    A farce?
    I’d think it would have to raise about 4373 levels to obtain farcical.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Adam L Silverman: that is hilarious

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Then they just go on with the conversation! Like they haven’t just revealed it all to be a farce.

    so… one cheer for Poppy?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @FlyingToaster: Dood! Spoiler alert!

    and you forgot Helena Bonham Carter chewing up all that expensive scenery

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    Pete Downunder says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Labor will call for no confidence vote when parliament resumes 10 September. If that passes, as it well might, then new elections. If the government survives the no confidence then a by-election and from memory must have at least 35 day lead time. Depends a bit on what the independents do. I think. very much in flux. The Guardian Australia edition is good source for info.

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    NotMax says:


    *The one in California, not Italy.

    Someone else snapped up that Concorde at firesale dot com?


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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Ruckus: At least they’re starting to ask the question of these folks. Honestly, it should be asked by the bookers and if the answer is yes, then they shouldn’t be booked. But this is a start. Hopefully we’ll get lots more of it.

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    FlyingToaster says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Hell, I left out Jason Issacs. And nobody should ever leave out Jason Issacs. He’s the fucking bomb.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    The books are good — they’re basically a traditional British boarding school story with magic and really big (eventually deadly) stakes. One of the things I admired about them is that the books become more sophisticated and emotionally complex as the characters grow up.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Where’s TenguPhule? (I assume everyone in Hawaii knows everyone else.) I haven’t seen him today.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: She gets a hip, but that’s it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Pete Downunder: Thanks, I couldn’t remember the specifics to how Australia’s parliamentary system was tweaked.

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    NotMax says:

    @zhena gogolia

    On Oahu. Basically they’ll get what Maui will be getting, only from 12 – 24 hours later (dependent on speed storm is waterwalking across the ocean).

    Lots more high rises there subject to battering upper level winds

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @FlyingToaster: Okay… it’s all coming back to me now– damn it! Lost the narrative thread again. Hey, if we’re going to get stoned and watch a movie, how do you guys feel about Fantasia?

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    jl says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: ” Heh, you know who went to college in Eagle Rock for 2 years? ”

    No. Do tell us. If it is you, then you have influence there, and I expect you to make the Trump Hollywood Star buried under Eagle Rock happen.

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    FlyingToaster says:

    @Mnemosyne: WarriorGirl’s read most or all of them (I’m not sure if she’s read Half-Blood or Deathly Hallows), plus the sequel play (which I saw in her room tonight).

    The movies are great, but as you also note, this is a pretty traditional story. Die Leiden des jungen Werthers, with the Devil, or Die neue Leiden des jungen W., where the hero dies, have pretty similar themes.

    Most Americans don’t go to boarding school, or know anyone who does, so I’m sure that’s an added attraction/distraction stateside.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @FlyingToaster: And just so you’ll know how ‘retro’ I am, I had to look up both ‘bog standard’ and IMNSHO. But at least I can use a rotary phone, damn it!

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    @Mnemosyne: Uh, what’s the extra ‘B’ in BBLTA?

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    NotMax says:

    @The Midnight Lurker

    The original? Three thumbs paws up.

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    @jl: No, silly jl, not me. Remember, I went to UCLA. But someone attended a college in Eagle Rock for 2 years after graduating high school in HawaiiKenya.

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    NotMax says:


    It’s L.A. – Botox.


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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @NotMax: They remade Fantasia?. Did it suc– oh, never mind.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: I fixed your comment for you.

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    KSinMA says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: Too funny! I brought my old portable typewriter as a show-and-tell to a roomful of first-year college students, to show them the technology their predecessors had. Some had never seen one. None had ever used one.

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    jl says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Thank you. I did not know that. I’ll send Obama a note on it.
    Also forgot you went to the LA franchise joint, if I ever saw that in the comments.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Adam L Silverman: You are a dear, sweet man, Dr. Silverman… I mean, Adam. Thank you.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: The party that’s advocating monarchy.

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    Calouste says:

    @Pete Downunder: Well, you were not going to be in hot competition with Italy in food, culture, or fashion, so I’m happy for you you found something besides cricket //

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    FlyingToaster says:

    @The Midnight Lurker Retro?

    I grew up with the hardwired rotary phone, and the bill paid to “Bell Telephone”; on a party line until I was 4. My family owned only B&W TVs until I left for college (they bought their first color TV on MY employee discount, the last day I worked there before packing the van).

    I’m old; I just married late, so WarriorGirl forces me to know about Taylor Swift and Harry Potter and the soundtrack to Hamilton. Every fucking morning, driving her to camp. At least she’s a Doctor Who fan.

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    Pete Downunder says:

    @Amir Khalid: former PM Menzies trying for a big tent though center right party many years ago. Long before my time here so don’t know details.

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    Die Leiden des jungen Werthers, with the Devil

    Hm. Would read.

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    @FlyingToaster: In Die Leiden des jungen Werthers, Werther commits suicide because he can’t get the girl he wants. Don’t see relation to Harry Potter series.

    The Werther craze swept the German speaking lands. IIRC, it was almost immediately translated into otner languages. Young men wore his ‘costume’ of yellow panys and blue coat. Sermons were preached against the book; it was claimed it set off a wave of suicides by young men.
    At the dance Werther and Lotte look into each other’s eyes and breathe the name Klopstock. He realizes at once that they are soul-mates–they each admire (worship?) the same poet.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @FlyingToaster: I told the grandkids I was ‘old timey’ once and they corrected me. It’s ‘retro’. Get with the times.

    And I got your story beat. I’m so old that when I was a kid and spent summers on my grandparent’s farm, they had one of those ‘retro’ wall mounted box phones. They ones where you had to crank the handle really fast, and then put the earpiece to your ear and speak into the mouthpiece. When the operator came on the scratchy line, you gave her the number, which was a named followed by a four digit number — “Ferndale 9357” — and she would connect you.
    My grandfather built me a little stool to stand on so I could use it. My grandmother painted it with flowers, and hearts.
    I still have the stool. Wish I had the phone. I bet it’s worth some coin now.

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    @jl: What, the bear paws in my nym weren’t a giant clue? I have the bear paws tattooed on my ankle.

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    FlyingToaster says:

    @Ladyraxterinok: Harry finds out that he’s the final Horcrux and lets himself be killed (well, I think that’s what the whole scene with dead Dumbledore was about). Because magic, like Wesley, he’s not entirely dead and hence returns, if somewhat the worse for wear (though ‘way better than the Dread Pirate Roberts).

    Both Werther and W die; Werther commits suicide and W. accidentally electrocutes himself trying to impress Charlotte, but they’re all Bildungsromanen in school settings. I’m sure someone more familiar with English lit can give a half a dozen titles that fit this mold, though likely less well written, and lacking, well, magic.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    You’re way overthinking it — “boarding school” is a specific genre of children’s literature in Great Britain, and Rowling is playing off that tradition. Her books are as resolutely British as “Dr. Who” is.


    “Balsamic” — the mayonnaise has balsamic vinegar mixed in. Very tasty.

    There was no avocado, though, so that was the erroneous letter.

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    FlyingToaster says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: That’s cool! I’m a city kid, but my mom’s parents’ farm had the same damn phone we did 700 miles away.

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    NotMax says:

    @The Midnight Lurker

    Scroll down this page for several for sale trips down memory lane.

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    FlyingToaster says:


    You’re way overthinking it — “boarding school” is a specific genre of children’s literature in Great Britain, and Rowling is playing off that tradition. Her books are as resolutely British as “Dr. Who” is.

    Since I had no idea such a genre of literature existed, I stand corrected.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @NotMax: The ‘Country Cozy’ line! HA-HA! That’s it! Thanks!

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    J R in WV says:


    Pensacola, the first settlement in America

    That’s a wee bit of a stretch since the first settlement failed. St Augustine says “O hai der!”

    Taos NM might want a word with those guys. Just saying. Even Santa Fe!

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    J R in WV says:


    @Yutsano: Somewhere around Mexico City is the earliest known settlement, although assuredly there were earlier ones in Alaska (assuming the Bering Strait migration hypothesis is correct).

    Yes, but no one is living there now today. Taos is still a Pueblo with people living in it 1500 years later on.

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