Late Night Open Thread: Trump Is Also Bad for Domestic Relationships

First time I saw George Conway, he was literally holding his wife’s coat at a post-Trump-election gala, looking like a man who could not believe his own luck. Apparently his feelings about the Oval Office Occupant in Chief… aren’t so warm, any longer. Ben Terris, the Washington Post Style reporter who first alerted us to then-Rep. Aaron Schock’s taste in office decor, introduces us to one of DC’s power couples:

… “He’s not just my boss,” Kellyanne, 51, says. “He’s our president.”

“Yeah,” George says, walking out of the room. “We’ll see how long that lasts.”

Here at the Conways’, it’s a house divided. She is Trump’s loyal adviser, the woman who carried him over the finish line to the White House. He is one of the president’s most notable conservative critics and wishes he had never introduced his wife to Trump in the first place.

Kellyanne invited me here because she thought it would be a good symbol for her commitment to, and the enduring strength of, the Trump presidency. The White House may be shedding staff at record speed, but this new home is a sign that Kellyanne isn’t going anywhere; that she is, in fact, flourishing.

And that may be true. But as I spent time with Kellyanne and George, I saw an alternative symbol: The Conways, like the rest of the country, have been jolted by the Trump presidency. They love each other, are exasperated by each other, talk about each other behind each other’s backs. They share a roof and live in different bunkers…

And their feud, thanks to George’s newfound Twitter hobby, is playing out for more than just the neighbors to see.

When the president was in search of a new communications director last year, George tweeted it was “absurd” that the president so often says one thing and then does the opposite. In addition to various tweets about corgis and the Philadelphia Eagles, he has retweeted dozens of articles critical of the president and his administration, and he penned a 3,473-word essay rebutting Trump’s assertion that special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia investigation was “unconstitutional.”…

“If you make this story all about him, I’ll definitely push back on that after it’s printed,” Kellyanne says, talking about George. “There’s no story about me, except the overcoming of circumstance and the fact that I’m so independent.”

But it’s a story about both of them. Of course it is. The more time I spend with them, the more I know that. It’s the story of people who love Trump, and the people who are trying to love them.

Kellyanne remembers how encouraging George was of that independence when they got married 17 years ago. Back then, Kellyanne was just finding her footing as a sought-after pollster in Washington. She remembers one of George’s friends telling him that the best thing for their marriage would be for her to shut down her business — the company she built from scratch — and how George, even though he made enough money himself to support the family, encouraged her to keep working toward her own dream.

And now?

“I feel there’s a part of him that thinks I chose Donald Trump over him,” Kellyanne says as we walk. “Which is ridiculous. One is my work and one is my marriage.”…

Be careful what you wish for…

… George isn’t from around here. He grew up in Massachusetts, a contrarian since, as a child, he decided to root for the Yankees instead of the Red Sox. By the time he was 30 he was a hotshot lawyer, a partner at a big-time law firm in New York City. While there, George fell into a clutch of Republicans secretly working behind the scenes to lay the groundwork for Clinton’s impeachment. It wasn’t his day job, just a hobby, but one that got him a lot of attention. One of his friends from that time, Ann Coulter, introduced him to Kellyanne.

George would, in turn, introduce Kellyanne to Trump.

Shortly after they were married in 2001, Kellyanne and George moved into an apartment in Manhattan’s Trump World Tower. There, George made an impression on the future president at a condo board meeting where he argued against removing Trump’s name from the building. The speech earned George an offer to join the condo board, which he declined but passed on to his wife, who accepted.

“Knowing what I know now,” George told me later, back in Washington, “I would have said no, and never mentioned it when I got home.”…

The Spousal Unit and I have been together for 40 years, married for the last 25, but our interpersonal disagreements tend to run more along these lines…

124 replies
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    Corner Stone says:

    Just pay for it George. It’s a lot easier on the soul.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Idaho gets a bad rap for what it does best.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Platonailedit: Fun fact: most Idaho potatoes are grown in Washington. It’s a varietal name for a rather hearty russet.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    I found that out the other day by looking at a sack of potatoes where it said the growing company was based in Washington state.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    Those two are thoroughly despicable, abhorrent people, and the only newspaper story about them I’d read would be the one talking about how they drowned in their septic tank.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Platonailedit: Growing white supremacists?

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    NotMax says:


    Fun fact #2:

    Most Kentucky bluegrass seed comes from Idaho.

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    frosty says:

    My Spousal Unit got a good larf from the last tweet. Sometimes it seems we text more than we talk. Introverts!

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    There, George made an impression on the future president at a condo board meeting where he argued against removing Trump’s name from the building.

    god almighty

    “He said very nice things about me…”

    I’ve seen a blurb going around that is apparently the talking, always talking, vicious, racist upside-down floormop arguing with the reporter over whether or not her comments are off the record– I haven’t bothered to investigate because it’s the TATVRUDFM, but I liked this tweet

    Simon Maloy @ SimonMaloy
    I really can’t think of anything more on-brand than Kellyanne Conway trying to go off the record to attack her own husband

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: That’s just being mean to the septic tank.//

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    Jay says:

    I love the part in one interview, she tries to gaslight the Reporter she just talked to, bitching about her husband, that it wasn’t what she said, it was what other people saying, and if it was here, it was off the record.

    The reporter called bullshit.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Nuck Fazis!
    ‏ @Johngcole
    2m2 minutes ago

    “I own my own power tools, and I bake with lard. “

    I’ve never been so turned on by a dating profile especially since I do not trust myself with power tools. Well, saws, anyway.

    Just call Jim already and set up a meet. Sheesh,

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Jay: Here you go. And pretty much:

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    seaboogie says:

    Eh – fuck ‘em both! Don’t really care.

    Just emerged from my first ever “shelter in place” warning on Nixle because an armed fugitive who had stolen a car was in my hood.

    Actually learned this earlier than the Nixle warning because I had seen police car patrol lights a few blocks away, and a helicopter had been circling over my residence for over 20 minutes, so I phoned the sherrif’s Dept.

    Armed car thief on the lam.

    So I drew the blinds, locked my door and put a heavy chair under the knob, and sat in my galley kitchen eating dry roasted peanuts for dinner – my key fob with panic button for the car handy.

    What I did not do is panic. Considering that I was assaulted in an armed robbery on 3/1, I find that I’ve made a lot of progress.

    This time, they caught the bad guy. I’m kind of wore out though. Chocolate gelato beckons…

    FYI, I live in Glen Ellen, CA – very near to the town of Sonoma. This is not what used to be normal here.

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    lamh36 says:

    Off to bed soon, but before I do…I’ll leave you with this from Aretha Franklin…and if you haven’t already…go on ahead and listen to the ENTIRE Amazing Grace gospel album from Aretha Franklin.

    Gospel music, may not be your thing, but check out the entire album and see why it’s STILL the ONE OF THE BEST SELLING GOSPEL ALBUM OF ALL TIME!!! ALL TIME!

    You will NOT be disappointed!

    RIP Aretha Franklin
    Aretha Franklin – Mary Don’t You Weep (Amazing Grace Album)

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    Barbara says:

    Clinton was our president. Obama was our president. Kellyanne Conway will never be able to wash the stink from her slimy soul.

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    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.] says:

    Since it’s an open thread, here is the “second line” parade honoring Aretha Franklin in New Orleans tonight.

    Edit: Essentially a walking block party/Jam session/march/Wake for the queen of soul.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Is this the list?
    You have covered them all?
    Are you sure?

    Two hours later.

    Where are the onions?
    But, but … it was not in the list.
    We always need FUCKING ONIONS.

    The end

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    NotMax says:

    @Gin & Tonic

    Sh*t floats.


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    tbh mostly agree:

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    Tazj says:

    And yet somehow, I have no sympathy for either one of them. Just quit your job, other people have left.

    My husband and I have very passive aggressive arguments. There’s a lot of getting up and quickly walking out of rooms. The occasional door shut a little too loudly. Trying hard to ignore each other. However, sooner or later the silliness of it all will overwhelm me and I’ll burst out laughing. It’s always me first. My husband is such a sour puss when he’s angry, he’s very hard to break.

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    Platonailedit says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Hence my Idaho comment. #Diversion.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    I think this whole bullshit Battling Bickersons routine is a PR ploy. Kellyanne is loathsome, but just smart enough not to get her fingerprints on anything serious. I always felt she was trying to keep her distance from Trump. Probably has something on him too. That’s why the orange asshole hasn’t got into a twitter snit over George’s attacks.
    George Conway is a big time GOP hatchet man, establishment type. Probably loves everything Trump is doing privately, but is just making a show so they both can salvage something when this administration implodes. And even if he really does hate Trump, it still doesn’t cut any slack with me. You built this!
    To hell with both of them.

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    The Dangerman says:

    I suspect Kelly Anne despises Trump like a bad case of hemorrhoids…

    …but, that paycheck!

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    @Yutsano: But where are Washington Apples grown then?

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    Luthe says:

    @Corner Stone: No one should trust Cole with power tools. No one.

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    SWMBO says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: What is “TATVRUDFM”?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Tazj: She can’t. She’s not in that job because the President wants her there, she’s in that job because her actual employers and paymasters – Robert and Rebecka Mercer – want her there. She’s there to represent their interests and ensure their interests are serviced.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    G and I text a lot, too, especially when we’re at opposite ends of the apartment and don’t feel like yelling.

    One of my younger coworkers thought this was weird, but admitted that he and his wife have a lot of their conversations through their headsets while they’re gaming. 🙄

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @The Dangerman: She reportedly (and I believe the reports) told Morning Joseph and his crew, off camera, back when she and everyone else assumed The Beast was going to lose, that she felt like showering after the shit she said about him on camera. I trust Adam’s contention that her real bosses are the Mercers, and she’s a true believer in the rightwing agenda, and she wants to be rich and powerful and on TeeVee a lot. Even in my most optimistic moments about our post-trump future, I think she’ll get what she wants for as long as she wants it.

    ETA: @SWMBO: the talking, always talking, vicious, racist upside-down floormop

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    The Moar You Know says:

    Those two are thoroughly despicable, abhorrent people, and the only newspaper story about them I’d read would be the one talking about how they drowned in their septic tank.

    @Gin & Tonic: NOW you’re talking. I can get behind that idea.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Is it worth trying to get in line for it this weekend?

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    Starfish says:

    I am done with “Look at these white people of opposing political parties married to one another and still being civil.” It is too much like all the “What do white working class people think?” articles.

    Can we stop taking a very small minority of white people and drawing conclusions from that?

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    Jay says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    The never Trumpists are pissed at The Insane Clown POSus for saying the quiet parts outloud, and tainting the grift. Oh, and seizing control of the party on the votes, cantidates side.

    The Trumpists are pissed at the never-Trumpista’s for being snowflake cucks and yet still controlling the money.

    I’m rooting for fatalities.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Let me make a call. Do you have a post Soviet state preference? I think there’s a special on Azerbaijani oligarchs this week.//

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Though I always expect that plant to suddenly say, Feeeeed me!

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    seaboogie says:

    @Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]: This is amazing and wonderful and pretty much everything – thank you for sharing it!

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    Platonailedit says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Saudis? .. Sorry, I misread it as oilgarchs.

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    NotMax says:


    “Marketing analysts at a loss to explain sudden run on Febreze and Glade plug-ins in the Los Angeles area.”

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Are you kidding? The only post-Soviet state worth anything is Russia and that’s because of the nukes!//

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    I know George has been a GOP asshole all his life, way worse than Kellyanne. What the hell did she do before all this crap? I kinda remember her writing a book, like a wannabe Ann Coulter? And I saw her once on Maher’s show, but she kept screeching so I turned it off. Who the hell is she?

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    Aleta says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I bet it has an alarm and camera so no one can throw the other one in.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Jay: I’m not sure evil ever dies. I think it just morphs into something else. They both look to me like they’re in transition.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Be careful what you wish for. You might just get Putin.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Some good news!

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    @Adam L Silverman: even our cyberpunk oligarchs are third-rate knockoffs like Elon Musk.

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    lamh36 says:

    Ok…last one promise…lol

    Saw this on Lawrence, and someone posted a clip on twitter.

    Aretha Franklin at Eric Holder’s retirement thing (if Obama called, she came)

    46m46 minutes ago
    2015: “The President of the United States rushes across the stage like a stage hand to adjust the podium step for.. her Majesty, the Queen of Soul, Aretha Louise Franklin.” @lawrence

    At the beginning you can hear Obama say “hold on Queen…” as he comes to adjust the step for Aretha. LOVE…IT!

    Ok…good night.

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    @Platonailedit: Less than 10 square miles there, doubtful.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Great news! It’s stuff like this though that makes me worried about all the Trump appointees getting rammed through the Senate. The courts have been so important in stopping so much of Trump’s agenda.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Now you’ve done it.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: She ran a polling company and has a JD from, I think, UVa (?) I think she has a degree from Oxford as well. She was a fixture on TV during the great Clenis wars, Bill Maher especially loved her because she wore short skirts and giggled a lot, a less angry version of Coulter–like Coulter, she had mastered the trick of never stopping the flow of words, it flusters anchors and opponents. Years later I was flipping through CSPAN and there was a youngish blonde woman giving an intelligent, cogent and honest discussion of an upcoming election, might’ve been the ’06 midterms. I couldn’t believe it when they showed her name and I remembered who she was. It was lightyears from the part she used to play. Like I said, she’s a vicious racist, as motivated by hatred and resentment as anyone in the trump White House, but she’s probably also one of the smartest people in that building. If Mueller does find criminal evidence that even Susan Collins and Rob Portman can’t ignore, I’d bet that her fingerprints won’t be on any of it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: She ran a boutique polling firm for GOP campaigns and conservative groups. She was not very good at it according to Frank Luntz who trained her (she worked for him for a while before starting her own firm). Remember, she’s an attorney, not someone with a Masters in Political Campaigning or advanced degrees in political science, including survey methodology. Since she wasn’t a very good pollster, she eventually got hired to handle the political interests of the Mercers, which is how she wound up as a senior staffer on the Ted Cruz campaign, because that was the Mercers’ original pick.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Corner Stone: ok@Corner Stone:
    Mrs. Musk is going to appear from the ether to brow beat us now

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Bless his heart!

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    Platonailedit says:

    Mueller's office is proposing using more than 1,000 proposed exhibits for Paul Manafort's pending D.C. trial.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 17, 2018

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    MobileForkbeard says:

    @seaboogie: I got the same warning. It went as far out as Petaluma. Scary times.

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    Chetan Murthy says:

    @lamh36: Thank you for this. I’m not the kind to tear up, but just seeing him, and his grace and class and …. lovely decency with the Queen of Soul, bring a few droplets to my eyes.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: her law degree is from George Washington, and her time at Oxford was an undergrad year abroad. But checking Wiki I did find this tidbit I had not seen before

    Kellyanne Elizabeth Fitzpatrick was born on January 20, 1967, in Atco, New Jersey, to Diane Fitzpatrick.[13][14] Conway’s father, John Fitzpatrick, had Irish ancestry, while her mother is of Italian descent; John Fitzpatrick owned a small trucking company, and Diane worked at a bank. Conway was abandoned by her father, and her parents divorced when she was three.[15][16] She was raised by her mother, grandmother and two unmarried aunts in the Atco section of Waterford Township, New Jersey, and graduated from St. Joseph High School in 1985, where she sang in the choir, played field hockey, worked on floats for parades, and was a cheerleader.[17] A 1992 New Jersey Organized Crime Commission report identified Conway’s grandfather, Jimmy “The Brute” DiNatale, as a mob associate of the Philadelphia crime family; DiNatale did not reside with Conway’s grandmother, Conway, and the rest of her family.[15]

    It came up here a couple weeks back that Paul Manafort’s father was also at least mob-adjacent, if not mobbed up. Even I’m not ready to say KAC is working for Their Thing, but it’s curiouser and curiouser how many people around trump have some kind of connection.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: If you drill down, almost all the judges that McConnell is placing via the President are going into now empty judgeships that had previously been held by Republican appointees. Mostly Reagan and some of the oldest of the Bush 41 appointees. Should Obama have been able to fill these? Yes as almost all of them were either held open by McConnell as majority leader during the final two years of Obama’s presidency or he prevented Reid from doing so when the GOP was in the majority. But these appointments themselves are only going to maintain the status quo on the Federal courts given who is being replaced. The one caveat here, of course, is that McConnell, working with Leonard Leo of The Federalist Society and Don McGahn the White House Counsel have largely selected and pushed through hard line ideologues who are acceptable to Leo, which is why Leo picked them and gave them to McGahn.

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    JGabriel says:

    Michael Ian Black via Major Major Major Major:

    Started reading a long article about Kellyanne and George Conway. About halfway through I realized I don’t give a shit about either of them.

    So glad I had that realization before starting the article.

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    Immanentize says:

    Fun fact three — most Vermont maple syrup came from trees in New York.

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    Platonailedit says:

    @lamh36: Always classy. Miss him so much.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That was me who brought that up. But in this case it doesn’t necessarily mean that Kellyanne is mobbed up herself.

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    seaboogie says:

    @MobileForkbeard: Hi, neighbor!

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    JGabriel says:


    G and I text a lot, too, especially when we’re at opposite ends of the apartment and don’t feel like yelling.

    One of my younger coworkers thought this was weird, but admitted that he and his wife have a lot of their conversations through their headsets while they’re gaming.

    What games do married people play together? Are they more likely to play co-op or as adversaries?

    Someone should do a poll. It’d be a refreshing break from polls on the latest Trump outrage of the hour.

    *Sigh*. I’m so old, I remember when we used to think the outrage du jour under Bush/Cheney was a lot of scandals.

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    Immanentize says:

    Is anyone a Tom Waits fan? I think Frank’s Wild Years is perfect for the Conway’s:

    His wife was a spent piece of used jet trash

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    Platonailedit says:

    Stop kissing My ass and start not raping kids.

    — God (@TheTweetOfGod) August 16, 2018

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Adam L Silverman: nope, just a kinda weird coincidence given all of trumpworld’s other connections to OC– Old man trump, Roy Cohn, Michael Cohen, Manafort, now KAC. Am I missing anybody with connections? I’d bet a kidney that a good chunk of Rudi’s post-mayoral buck raking came from doing some kind of laundry for the Russian mob. But only because, as Willie Sutton said, that’s where the money was.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    Who doesn’t?

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    EBT says:

    @JGabriel: My polycule mostly plays Co-op stuff. Some of us came with good co-op boardgames too.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Thanks for the info! It makes me feel a little better

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    Ruckus says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:
    Fuck both of them. And I don’t mean that in the nice way.
    They helped build this absolute piece of shit maladministration. They have worked for years to get to this level, about 5 floors below worm shit. She likes shitgibbon? How the hell is that even possible? He’s about the most despicable human, I can’t tell if he is better or worse than Jamie Gumb from the Silence of the lambs. You like shitgibbon, that makes you a despicable human. shitgibbon doesn’t like dogs, I’d bet the feeling is more than mutual.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I have no idea what games they play since I’m not a gamer. His mom got mad when she saw there was a gaming system on their wedding registry and his wife was like, Um, no, I was the one who picked that out. 😂

    At this point, gaming or not gaming is really an age thing, not a gender thing. Most women I know who are under 40 grew up playing video games right alongside the guys.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Giuliani’s uncle.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    I want all the oligarchs to choke on their stolen money and then leave none of it to their spouses or kids. Seems only fair.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: I’d have preferred that Obama have filled the seats. Or, at least, fought a little harder to do so.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    To show you how I feel about KC, I read the last bit as

    because that was the Mercers’ original prick.

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    SWMBO says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Thanks. I couldn’t figure it out.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Well, I’ve had a lot of illusions about American agriculture shattered today. Am I also going to learn that California grapes are actually grown in the Nevada desert?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Ruckus: This would be an accurate statement as well.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    but it’s curiouser and curiouser how many people around trump have some kind of connection.

    Really? Probably the only reason he is not directly involved is that he’s too much of a chickenshit and the mob guys would have seen him as a mark, not a fellow traveler. I mean what position would he have been able to play? None of the actual working ones.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Jame Gumb, not Jamie. The name his mother intended for him lost its final S to clerical erroir.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Funny how that works for her isn’t it?

    Really is there anyone who isn’t a disgusting excuse for a human in this maladministration?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Ruckus: no question, he’s give his eye teeth to be as smart and tough as Tony Soprano, much less Don Corleone. I guess that’s how the Russians played him, knowing he really wanted to be an oligarch and treating him as if he were made him that much bigger a sucker. I’m sure back when he was actually building things, the cement contractors and whoever else made more money off him than they did other builders in much the same way. “Ay, Donnie Big-Hands! We’re knocking our take down to 25% because we know you’re a guy won’t pay 30” when everybody else was paying 20.

    But even still, I don’t believe Jimmy The Brute Natale is running his little granddaughter Kellyanne. But I’m prepared to change that opinion if the evidence suggests I should

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Ruckus: also

    Richard M. Nixon @ dick_nixon
    You know “The Sopranos”? The episode where the neighbor and his golf buddies get a kick out of knowing a gangster? They talk like this.

    Donald J. Trump @ realDonaldTrump
    When you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break, and give her a job at the White House, I guess it just didn’t work out. Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!

    even dead presidents can smell the wannabe through the tweets

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    Doug R says:


    Fun fact: most Idaho potatoes are grown in Washington. It’s a varietal name for a rather hearty russet.

    One of those things you didn’t know but know it’s true when you hear it. Idaho’s not even good for what it’s famous for….the birthplace of Sarah Palin, not right wing enough for her…at least it’s got a (slightly creepy) roller coaster park.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Ruckus: I do not know.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    Couldn’t remember the name, had to look it up, still got it wrong.
    It’s been one of those days. My hand feels alternately fine one minute and as if someone is stabbing me with an electrified ice pick the next. It’s fun having your own internal torture regimen.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I’m going with the answer with the highest probability of being 100% true, no there isn’t.

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    karen marie says:

    I don’t give a shit about Kellyanne and her dysfunctional marriage.

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    Calouste says:

    @Amir Khalid: I don’t know about that, but I can tell you that California olives taste like they’re grown in Alaska.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Really that one word describes his entire life, wannabe.
    He wants to be rich, so he endlessly lies about how much he’s worth.
    He wants to be famous but has all the talent of a lanced boil.
    He wants to be a hero, but is such a chickenshit, he couldn’t even get a screen test for it, no one would ever believe him, including the 75 yr old security guard at the front gate.
    He wants to be handsome, but is so cheap he buys his spray tan, and probably his rug at either the Dollar Store or the 99cent store. Whichever is actually less. As is obvious.
    He wants to be popular but is such an ass that no one that knows him actually likes him without being well paid to. See all his wives.

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    Both California and South Carolina grow more peaches than does the Peach State, and blueberries are a more lucrative crop in Georgia than are peaches.

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    Doug R says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Well, I’ve had a lot of illusions about American agriculture shattered today. Am I also going to learn that California grapes are actually grown in the Nevada desert?

    Well, almost every sci fi show set in a verdent green forest was probably shot near Vancouver, BC.
    All the Arrowverse/DC comics shows are shot in Vancouver-the new Star Trek Discovery in Toronto.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    No the grapes are not grown there. But something you probably don’t know, a lot of the CA wine labels are just that, a label. One can get custom mixed and bottled wines that you can sell as your own. Had an acquaintance who did and may still do that. Wasn’t bad wine at all but all he did was pay for everything, and then sell it. Actually all he did was pay for everything and collect a cut on the sales. If it did well he made money.

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    NotMax says:

    @Doug R

    Yup. Smallville, Supernatural, the first several seasons of The X-Files – the list is a long one. IIRC (although a different genre) it was 21 Jump Street which kicked producing American TV shows in Vancouver into high gear.

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    joel hanes says:


    My younger sister is 64 and has spent much of the last ten years deeply involved in Guild Wars; hours every day.
    Last year she pursued Fallout 4 with the same intensity.

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    joel hanes says:


    California olives taste like they’re grown in Alaska.

    Not all of them.
    Just as most French wine is mediocre, most CA olives are for the mass market.
    The Olive Pit in Corning (the producers co-op outlet) has a web site:
    I recommend the hand-placed quart jars of stuffed olives.
    I give them as Christmas gifts, and they’re well received.
    Their kalamata-style and sicilian-style olives are more than adequate, and some of their olive oils are quite good.
    My martini-loving friend likes the pimento-stuffed queen olives in vermouth.

    And if you actually go up to the north end of the Central Valley, you can find lots of boutique labels with hand-crafted specialty cures.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Amir Khalid: No. All the stuff that other states are so proud of growing, California grows more of. More dairy, more potatoes, etc.

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    karen marie says:

    @sukabi: Whee!

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    sukabi says:

    @karen marie: The one he did with Shaggy a few months ago was pretty fun too.

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    BretH says:

    “One of his friends from that time, Ann Coulter, introduced him to Kellyanne…”

    Fukem both.

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    Joe Darts
    ‏ @jmedarts

    Text from wife: where r u
    Me: kitchen
    Wife: can you feed the dog?
    Me: sorry, I meant the garage
    W: bring in the laundry
    M: in bathroom now
    W: clean the toilet
    M: Idaho
    W: get potatoes

    M: Montana
    W: get dental floss

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    low-tech cyclist says:


    “One of his friends from that time, Ann Coulter, introduced him to Kellyanne…”

    Fukem both.

    And this:

    While there, George fell into a clutch of Republicans secretly working behind the scenes to lay the groundwork for Clinton’s impeachment. It wasn’t his day job, just a hobby

    Had some sympathy for the guy until I read that. May both his old friends and his new friends abandon him.

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    JPL says:

    @sukabi: That’s a good way to start the day. Thank you.

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    Aleta says:

    @seaboogie: I’m impressed. Regaining equilibrium is a big deal. A toast to you. w/ fresh blackberry jam.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @low-tech cyclist: Nice, if a bit obscure.

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    cmorenc says:


    @Yutsano: But where are Washington Apples grown then?

    In Washington, NC.
    aka “little Washington”.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Creepiest couple of DC parasites since Carville & Maitalin.

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    Tarragon says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Wait, two of us got that? I’m surprised.

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    Jamey says:

    @NotMax: Also, most Philly Cheesesteaks are from Camden, NJ.

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    Anya says:

    I am convinced this is a con. They want to have a foot on each side. Even Kellyann’s off the record statement to the reporter is for Trump. She wanted to say something very strong for her think skinned boss’ benefits.

    I don’t trust these people. They’re both awful. Mr. Conway supported Trump during the campaign. The only difference is he implemented his campaign ideas. What made him change his mind? Trump is still Trump.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:


    I don’t trust these people. They’re both awful. Mr. Conway supported Trump during the campaign. The only difference is he implemented his campaign ideas. What made him change his mind? Trump is still Trump.

    Conway’s not getting paid to promote Trump now.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Aleta: Thank you – yum fresh blackberry jam!!!

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    J R in WV says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Well, I’ve had a lot of illusions about American agriculture shattered today. Am I also going to learn that California grapes are actually grown in the Nevada desert?

    No, but a lot of wine grapes are grown in AZ and NV, where they can mine an aquifer for sufficient water. My cousin’s biggest real estate sale was of a high desert ranch now becoming a vineyard, bigger each year. Very high end.

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    Gravie says:

    @Platonailedit: Idaho also has some great hot springs. Lava Hot Springs, Idaho (pop. about 400) is a great place to enjoy the natural bounty.

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    Ksmiami says:

    @Adam L Silverman: we root them out once we win- the GOP must be completely crushed and eliminated from the US at every level.

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