Tuesday Morning Open Thread: “Well, He’s Trying… “

Extremely trying, sometimes. If this were any outlet but Politico, I’d suspect them of tongue-in-cheek snark:

Several times in the first year of his administration, President Donald Trump wanted to call Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in the middle of the afternoon. But there was a problem. Midafternoon in Washington is the middle of the night in Tokyo — when Abe would be fast asleep.

Trump’s aides had to explain the issue, which one diplomatic source said came up on “a constant basis,” but it wasn’t easy.

“He wasn’t great with recognizing that the leader of a country might be 80 or 85 years old and isn’t going to be awake or in the right place at 10:30 or 11 p.m. their time,” said a former Trump NSC official. “When he wants to call someone, he wants to call someone. He’s more impulsive that way. He doesn’t think about what time it is or who it is,” added a person close to Trump…

Trump’s desire to call world leaders at awkward hours is just one of many previously unreported diplomatic faux pas Trump has made since assuming the presidency, which go beyond telephone etiquette to include misconceptions, mispronunciations and awkward meetings. Sometimes the foibles have been contained within the White House. In one case, Trump, while studying a briefer’s map of South Asia ahead of a 2017 meeting with India’s prime minister, mispronounced Nepal as “nipple” and laughingly referred to Bhutan as “button,” according to two sources with knowledge of the meeting…

Another former Trump NSC official said Trump sometimes avoids saying certain words or names when talking to a foreign leader because he’s unsure whether he can pronounce them properly. The White House official said Trump always wants to be respectful and make sure he gets pronunciations right.

At times, he wings it with unfortunate results. Meeting with a group of African countries at the United Nations General Assembly last September, Trump, in public remarks, referred to the country of Namibia as “Nambia.” (Trump did impress some of his own aides in the meeting, however. “He did a very good job of saying Côte d’Ivoire,” said one.)

Trump also raised eyebrows during the same gathering when he announced that “I have so many friends going to your countries, trying to get rich. I congratulate you” — prompting cringes among some aides aware how such talk would resonate on a continent that well remembers the exploitations of its colonial era. (Some African entrepreneurs said they appreciated the comment.)…

Trump’s love of talking on the phone has created special problems for his top national security officials, who say that he sometimes places calls that have no clear diplomatic purpose…

Can toddlers still random-dial strangers, now that rotary and pushbutton phones have effectively vanished? Or are they reduced to punching the ‘last dialed’ numbers for mommy’s work colleagues and daddy’s business contacts? Because I remember my three-year-old siblings were really fascinated by the telephone game, back in the day…

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    The stupid, it hurts.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Don’t blame wildfires on climate change – it’s environmentalists’ fault, says Zinke Another article that needed to be written, but I don’t need to read. The stupid, it hurts.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    The Republican philosophy is taking over the world: Very fishy: China rules rainbow trout can be sold as salmon

    In a move that customers have labelled very fishy, the Chinese government has ruled that rainbow trout can now be labelled and sold as salmon. The seemingly bizarre move comes after complaints earlier this year that rainbow trout was being mislabelled. In May, media reported that much of what was sold as salmon in China was actually rainbow trout, to widespread consternation from fish-buyers.

    But instead of banning vendors from deceiving their customers, the China Aquatic Products Processing and Marketing Alliance (CAPPMA), which falls under the Chinese ministry of agriculture, has ruled that all salmonidae fish can now be sold under the umbrella name of “salmon”, reports the Global Times. Rainbow trout and salmon are both salmonidae fish and look quite similar when filleted. However, salmon live in salt water and rainbow trout live in fresh water.

    They also taste entirely different. Of course, assuming the fish they are talking of here are farmed and fed the same crap meal, maybe they don’t.

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    raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Lakers are similar.

    “The specific epithet namaycush derives from namekush, a form of the word used in some inland Southern East Cree communities in referring to this species of fish. Other variations found in East Cree are kûkamâs[h], kûkamâw and kûkamesh.[11] Similar cognate words are found in Ojibwe: namegos = “lake trout”; namegoshens = “rainbow trout”, literally meaning “little lake trout”.[12]”

    Order: Salmoniformes
    Family: Salmonidae

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    Platonailedit says:

    mispronounced Nepal as “nipple” and laughingly referred to Bhutan as “button,”

    make sure he gets pronunciations right.

    Fucking numbnutz all around.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Conservatives are assholes everywhere.

    India’s patent office has rejected a plea by a Canadian company to patent a vibrator because sex toys violate “public order and morality”.

    Invoking India’s obscenity law, the patent office said the law “has never engaged positively with the notion of sexual pleasure”.

    The patent office said sex toys are considered to be obscene objects and are illegal in India.

    The office also invoked the Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code (IPC), a 155-year-old colonial-era law, which criminalises gay sex and unnatural intercourse, in refusing the patent.

    An appeal to strike down provisions of the law is currently pending before the Supreme Court.

    “Why should the patents office handle moral decisions? Officials trained in technical science are not supposed to decide whether an invention is moral or immoral,” Prof Basheer told the BBC.

    Sex toys are openly sold online, and in a thriving black market in India.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @raven: Yep, and Brook trout which are also a type of Char:

    Salvelinus is a genus of salmonid fish often called char[2] or charr; some species are called “trout”. Salvelinus is a member of the subfamily Salmoninae within the family Salmonidae.

    The thing that makes these fish so tasty is the shrimp they eat in the wild and that turns their flesh pink. Farmed fish don’t have that color. Yet. (assuming some enterprising packer doesn’t artificially inject the flesh with food coloring) Here in Misery one can fish for rainbow and brown trout at some of our larger springs and the rivers just downstream of them where the water remains cool enough for them. They are all hatchery raised tho and the taste is lacking.

    The laker I caught last year in the BWCA was right tasty even if it hadn’t been feasting on freshwater shrimp (not sure what they forage on up there besides minnows and such).

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    raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I used to fish for lakers, northern and salmon in Lake Michigan.

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    NotMax says:

    now that rotary and pushbutton phones have effectively vanished?

    Sez who?

    Telephones through which one can actually hear and make out the words of the person on the other end – what a concept.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @raven: I’ve never had the opportunity. That laker was my first and a bit of a surprise. I had a deep diving plug on for smallmouths while fishing off the precipitous shore of a small island and it obviously went deeper than I was figuring on.

    @NotMax: We have a land line, we need to living in a cell hole.

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

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    Baud says:

    @NotMax: I can’t believe people were forced to talk to each other if they wanted to chat. Barbarians.

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    satby says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning rikyrah 🙋!

    This site in desktop version keeps having a noise start and then cut off (sounds like a train whistle with a drum roll). I notice it never fully stops loading either. I assume it’s some ad.
    The ability to edit isn’t worth hearing that on a continuous loop. Back to mobile I go.

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    satby says:

    @Baud: I hate that people only text now. Lots of times a call would take a minute or two but getting through the equivalent text exchange eats up more than five minutes.It’s maddening.

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    Schlemazel says:

    I keep my speaker muted just to avoid stuff like that on sites I have the ad blocker turned off.

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    Schlemazel says:

    Our grown children do that and it drives me nuts. 8_10 texts when a one minute call would have taken care of it

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    Jeffro says:

    @rikyrah: I liked the tweet I saw that said the “Unite The Losers” rally was super-small because all of the Nazis were busy running as Republican candidates for office…🤣🤣🤣

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    Schlemazel says:

    Wife and one son have fished Michigan, I have never had the opportunity but would love to.

    Have taken white fish from Superior but they are not as good as salmon

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    Nicole says:

    I like texting. I get anxious talking on the phone.

    Also, it’s really depressing that 40% of the nation takes pleasure in being ignorant, and thus has no problem with the guy in the WH being dumber than a bag of hair. As I recall from a history book I read, it’s an aspect of the American character that has been commented on for over 100 years by writers- Americans’ pride in being ignorant.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @satby: @Schlemazel: My brothers and sisters do that with each other AND they have me included in the family group EVEN THO they all know I don’t text. So some times my phone repeatedly buzzes and beeps with messages that I can’t even read (don’t ask) and wouldn’t if I could. If it goes on long enough I’ll call one of them and ask what’s going on on the off chance it is something I need to know about. It never is.

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    Jeffro says:

    @NotMax: all this reminds me of the Dilbert cartoon where Wally comes rushing into the office and tells Dilbert he’s got an invention that will make him a billion bucks and he’s OUTTA HERE!

    Dilbert goes, “what is it?”

    Wally says, “it’s just like email, only instead of typing out your message, you pick up the device and you say something into it…AND A PERSON ON THE OTHER END HEARS YOU! Great idea right?!”

    Dilbert: …

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    “I know all the planets – – Niptoon, Your-Anus, Blutto, I know dem all.”

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    Schlemazel says:

    Ugh! I hate getting stuck in group texts I have no interest in. It has to be worse not getting the actual texts.

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    Darrin Ziliak says:

    Ironically enough, I used to mispronounce Niger as well.

    In the first grade after seeing the country on a globe in class.

    Mrs Leach corrected the pronunciation and told me to not say the other word again.

    Should we sent Mrs Leach’s ghost to the White House to tutor the President?

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    satby says:

    @Schlemazel: INORITE?!

    @Schlemazel: it comes through even with the speaker down, and it comes back if I try to mute this page only. Doesn’t happen in mobile, so it’s one of the Taboola ads or something. Problem solved by switching back to mobile, so no worries.

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    satby says:

    Gotta get going, have to get to the market, drop some stuff off, drive to Zolman’s to drop off the car for them to check and probably replace my brake pads. Then walk back to the market. At least right now it’s decently cool.

    Everyone have a great day!

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    debbie says:


    Colbert was all over this last night. I can not conceive of an adult who doesn’t know about time zones.

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    NotMax says:


    90-year-old Mom has a ‘just in case’ cell phone. Just in case the car gets a flat or breaks down.

    So basic a unit (yes, it’s a flip phone) it doesn’t sport Bluetooth, thus cannot sync with the gadgetry in her car. I presume she’s savvy enough to not go fishing in her purse for it should it ring when she’s on the road.

    She uses a landline at home.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    Vlad’s favorite dildo has a nice ring to it.

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    Olivia says:

    Has none of the “only the best” White House staff ever thought to phonetically spell names and difficult words for the cretin in chief?

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @A Ghost To Most: Steely Don?

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    @Olivia: Hell’s bells, he had trouble with LGBTQ.

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    Duane says:

    If you want to keep Trumpov amused and out of your hair all day, tell him about Lake Titicaca.

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    Ken says:

    Opinions on the shape of the world differ. Some think it’s round so the sun’s at a different angle depending where you stand, others…

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    MattF says:

    I think not ‘getting’ time zones is a result of narcissism– “If it’s ten o’clock for me, it’s ten o’clock everywhere.”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    When did pipe bombs become the equivalent of nuclear weapons?

    North Carolina air traffic controller charged with weapon of mass destruction over pipe bomb

    An air traffic controller who works at a North Carolina airport was one of two men arrested Friday on charges of possessing a weapon of mass destruction. Paul Dandan, 30, was arrested Friday and held at the Mecklenburg County Jail after police found an explosive device at his home in Charlotte last week. Police, responding to a 911 call on Nov. 3, determined it was a homemade pipe bomb. Derrick Fells, 39, admitted he made the the bomb to use against a neighbor. Fells and Dandan are roommates, WCN reported. But Fells changed his mind and gave the bomb to Dandan, an airport employee who had access to an offsite control tower, according to the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police.
    Dandan, who is held on $45,000 bond, was charged with three counts of possessing, acquiring, and transporting a weapon of mass destruction. Fells was charged with three counts of manufacturing a weapon of mass destruction and one count of possession.

    Oh wait a minute, I’ll bet it was when prisons became profit centers. “Explosive device” isn’t anywhere near as scary as “Weapon of Mass Destruction”.

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    Ken says:

    Trump wanted to call Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe

    A valuable lesson: Don’t be nice to the narcissist, or he’ll call you at all hours hoping to get another kind word.

    On the other hand if you’re mean, he might drunk-dial you at all hours to yell abuse.

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    Ian G. says:

    I see I’m not the only one who immediately thought of Homer Sinmpson and “U-R-Gay” when I read that Politico piece.

    We elected someone with the intelligence and worldliness of Homer, but none of his warmth and humanity.

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    Mike J says:

    The worst part of the time zone story isn’t the time zone part. It’s that he’s calling leaders of other countries to talk off the cuff. A phone call from the president of the US to a world leader is usually carefully plotted with all the points that need to be covered (and the points that need to be avoided) spelled out and briefed.

    And of course State can make sure the call is scheduled properly.

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    Baud says:

    @satby: Hard to do emojis with voice.

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    Twitler is up and is sinking to the depths this morning.

    When you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break, and give her a job at the White House, I guess it just didn’t work out. Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!

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    JGabriel says:

    The president has often perplexed foreign officials and his own aides as he refuses to learn how to deal with the world beyond America’s borders.

    Politico, via Anne Laurie @ Top

    Fixed it for you, Politico!

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    MattF says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: My guess is that Trump found Omarosa to be physically intimidating. He can’t let that go.

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    NotMax says:


    Then there’s the East coast time zone predilection of certain blogs…



    And this is a bad thing because?

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    Platonailedit says:

    corrupt & crass.

    What a scummy third rate pos for the leader of free world.

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    NotMax says:


    Someone edited the word bitch.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Some good news out of bad: an elderly North Carolina couple’s new Ford SUV was stolen from the Richmond VA area Sunday morning, with their toy poodle in his little crate inside. (Car left with A/C running while couple was getting fast food breakfast; couple thinks car may not have locked because husband’s key fob was still inside the vehicle.)

    Anyway, Skippy the poodle has shown up, safe and sound. They got their car back earlier, but Skippy was their heart.

    Local paper has a photo of Skippy sporting his water vest.

    “I’m so happy that we found him,” Ann said. “He’s not as adorable this afternoon as he was usually. He’s a little subdued. It’s been a stressful time.”

    The saga started when Ann and Richard’s 2017 Ford Escape was stolen Sunday from the McDonald’s at 1800 E. Broad St.

    The couple, who stopped in Richmond this past weekend on their way home from a monthlong trip in Connecticut, left Skippy with a dog sitter Saturday and went to the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts. Around 9 a.m. Sunday, they picked up Skippy from the sitter and then stopped to get breakfast at the McDonald’s.

    They left their vehicle running to keep the air conditioning going for Skippy, Ann said. The car does not use a key, and the engine is started by pushing a button. Ann said she thinks she had tried to lock the car when they went into McDonald’s and she took a fob with her. But she suspects the car wouldn’t lock because her husband’s fob was in his luggage inside the car.

    I think Skippy was just let loose at some point after story hit the local news — and it did, fast. Everyone was concerned about the missing poodle. And Sunday was unbelievably hot. Lucky someone spotted him Monday afternoon and called animal control so fast.

    Watch out for those key fobs and other newfangled technology. And takeout is good.

    If only the VonHoorns had known they could just drive less than a mile up Church Hill to Libby Hill Park, and treat Skippy and themselves to a view of Richmond, a bend in the James River, and miles around. Naturally, a tall statue honoring Confederates too. Le sigh.

    Keep those traveling pets safe. Poor VonHoorns still lost their luggage, her cell phone, some paintings. Not happy about these fricking RVA thieves. Car thefts are up 20% this year.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Well there it is, right there: Trump isn’t really an adult, is he?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MattF: Via Anne’s afternoon thread yesterday, I found this:

    Inside Omarosa’s reign of terror

    Want to know the secret behind Omarosa’s wild, largely unchallenged, run in the White House, during which she would swan in and out of the Oval Office, secretly recording the president and his chief of staff?

    It’s simple: Some of the most powerful men in government were terrified of her.

    What they’re saying:

    “I’m scared shitless of her… She’s a physically intimidating presence,” a male former colleague of Omarosa’s told me. (He wouldn’t let me use a more precise description of his former White House role because he admitted he’s still scared of retribution from Omarosa. Other senior officials have admitted the same to me.)
    “I never said no to her,” the source added. “Anything she wanted, ‘Yes, brilliant.’ I’m afraid of her. I’m afraid of getting my ass kicked.”
    Three other former officials shared that sentiment: “One hundred percent, everyone was scared of her,” said another former official.
    Behind the scenes: Former chief of staff Reince Priebus made valiant efforts to keep Omarosa out of the Oval. And former press secretary Sean Spicer kept having to rebuff administrative officials who were lugging desks over to the West Wing to set up a personal workstation for Omarosa at her command.

    But Omarosa answered to nobody. And senior staff told me last year they felt paralyzed because she was the only top-level official in the White House who was African-American.
    On a weekend last April, Omarosa caused a security and ethics stir when she dropped into the White House in full bridal attire and with members of her bridal party to try to hold a wedding photoshoot in the Rose Garden and throughout the West Wing.

    The bottom line: By all accounts except her own, Omarosa Manigault-Newman did little substantive work during her almost 12 months in the White House. But for much of her time there, she maintained decent access to Trump. And while the White House is now dumping on her credibility — and in many cases they have solid ammunition — the reality is that she only got the tapes because she was in the room.

    I’m still laughing at these pansy asses.

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    Kay says:


    They paid her a lot even after they fired her to keep her quiet. You see how effective that was. She got paid once when they hired her, again when they fired her and now she’ll get paid again profiting off the tapes she made of them.

    Omarosa is kicking Donald Trump’s ass in this deal and there’s no end in sight. She’s trouncing them, three times and counting. If she’s stupid then what are they?

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    Another Scott says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Interesting.

    Of course, misidentification of fish in US markets is a big problem as well. E.g.

    “Bass” is a popular name applied to many fish that aren’t really bass, but people call them “Bass” anyway, particularly the Black Bass (Smallmouth and Largemouth) which are actually Sunfish. Shown here are the real bass (even though one of them is called “Perch”), with links to some of the “not actually a bass” fish. The Bass Family now has its own page.


    Snappers, particularly the Pacific Red Snapper, are very highly regarded as food fish and demand a premium price. For this reason various other fish, many not even in the Snapper family, are marketed as “Snapper” and even as “Red Snapper”. The Snapper Family now has its own page.

    It’s a big problem, and likely to get worse as fish stocks are further depleted.


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    Platonailedit says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Indeed. Fucking coterie of cowards.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Omarosa was in the Trump Org orbit for 15 years. You mad cause she’s beating you at your own game?! https://t.co/mIYrCvaCwB— Christina Henderson (@HendWex) August 14, 2018

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    Elizabelle says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Doesn’t take much to skeer those Republicans. They are quaking in their boots at Nancy Pelosi. Including the Republican (humpers) running NBC and MSNBC.

    WRT Omarosa: I’d never seen footage of her before yesterday. She did control the interview with Savannah Guthrie, who was acting like an overcaffeinated terrier to begin with. Yipping out questions and not allowing Omorosa to emit more than a few syllables. Not impressed in the slightest with NBC’s highly paid “talent.”

    Nancy Smash on MSNBC Sunday, for those who missed it. AM Joy show.

    JONTHAN [sic] CAPEHART, MSNBC: Why not, if the Democrats take back the House, give up the gavel, and give it to a new generation of leaders?

    REP. NANCY PELOSI: I know NBC has been on a jag, this is one of their priorities, to undermine my prospects as Speaker, but putting that aside. I have not asked one person for a vote. I have not asked one candidate or incumbent for a vote. I, better than anybody, know how important it is for us to win this election because I see up close and personal what the Republicans and this president are doing.
    I do not think we should let our opponents, the Republicans, pick our leaders. The Republicans are spending millions, tens of millions of dollars, against me. Because they’re afraid of me because I outraise them in the political arena, I outsmart them at the negotiating table, and because I’m a woman who is going to be a seat at that table.

    That is very important to me. If Hillary Clinton had won and had sat at the head of that table it would be different, but I am not yielding that. None of us is indispensable, but I think I am the best person for the job.

    And I won’t let the Republican ads, which are just flooding these districts, I say to candidates: Do whatever you have to do, just win, baby.

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    Kay says:


    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account
    Follow Follow @realDonaldTrump
    Wacky Omarosa already has a fully signed Non-Disclosure Agreement!

    The faith these people have in their ridiculous, unenforceable contracts is something to behold. It reminds of the super deal they made with North Korea. Coddled. They’ve never encountered people who hit back.

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    Kay says:


    The tough guys in the White House are going to sue Omarosa – she violated the NDA! That’ll learn her.

    Oh, they’re very scary! She better run from their crappy, cut rate legal team! Hell hath no fury like coddled rich people and their lawyers!

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    Platonailedit says:

    @Kay: Yeah, I bet she’ll back off now. Fucking mindless moron.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Elizabelle: Nancy knows what is important and what it takes to get it.

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    @Elizabelle: I love Pelosi. She’s good at her job. She raises money, enforces discipline, and protects her people to the extent she can. Also, she’s a nana.

    ETA: My DIL invited me to go to the movies with her tomorrow to see “Christopher Robin,” which my son won’t go to. I am ridiculously pleased she asked me.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: We should have her back. She’s effective.

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    Ken says:

    @Kay: Given how often Trump’s crack legal team has botched up, the lawsuit will probably result in the NDAs being ruled unenforceable.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Sounds like a good outing. I think lamh might have seen it. Enjoy.

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    danielx says:


    Never perused the Kama Sutra, have they then?

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    Kay says:


    All of these people are liars. Why is Omarosa less credible than the rest of them?

    She’s exactly as credible as Huckabee-Sanders. More so, really. She hasn’t lied to media and the public as often.

    Kelly is a liar too and so is Sessions. The President, of course, lies multiple times a day and has for 2 years. Manafaort, Cohen, Don Jr. – all documented and verified liars. I take her exactly as seriously as I take any of the rest of them. There’s no reason to draw a distinction, other than race and class and relative power. If this is some objective measure of character she’s no worse than any of them and better than some of them.

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    Gin & Tonic says:


    Omarosa already has a fully signed Non-Disclosure Agreement!

    So take her to court, dude. See how enforceable it is. You love threatening to take people to court, do it for real this time.

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    hueyplong says:

    The mere existence of a NDA in favor of a Dem president would generate impeachment hearings.

    “Why are they trying to silence Ms X?!?” Or some such.

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    Dave says:

    @Kay: I have no truck with Omarossa but not going to lie watching her stomp all over these schmucks is a guilty pleasure.

    Particularly because she recognizes that fundamentally they have no strength just a limited set of selfish grasping grifts and they can’t handle it when they are dealing with someone that will use the same methods but doesn’t care about what they do in return.

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    Kay says:


    Omarosa cares about as much about the NDA as North Korea cares about the Trump deal- not at all.

    Why are they so terrified of anyone revealing the things they say in the administration, BTW? They’re supposed to be at work, working. There shouldn’t be anything embarrassing in their workplace communications. WTF are they up to on the public dime?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Kay: “Just wait until I tell my lawyer. He’s gonna beat you up!” What every rich tough guy says.

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    Ken says:


    WTF are they up to on the public dime?

    Stealing it.

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    Baud says:

    @Elizabelle: That’s beautiful.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Ken: The NDA is on it’s face illegal. These people don’t work for trump, the work for the US govt.

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    Kay says:


    I love the snobbery. Oh, yes, Omarosa is MUCH more sleazy than Donald Trump. Yes, sir. She’ll never meet the high character and behavior standards of the Trump Administration! That’s why they’re all terrified she’ll reveal recordings of them- because they adhere to such high standards.

    It’s pure snobbery. They’re no better than she is. They’re just more powerful.

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    Baud says:

    This is my shocked face.

    Black voters aren’t convinced by pro-Trump endorsements from black celebrities, new poll finds


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    Platonailedit says:


    Exactly. All the other corrupt scums of this corruptest regime have enacted hurtful policies while lying about them and making money out of them. I rate her the most honorable thief among these louts.

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    Kay says:


    Right. Then there’s the huge group of people who don’t give a shit. They just met one.

    Omarosa is correct on the law, BTW. Their garbage contract is unenforceable. She’s better at even that than they are.

    I worry a liitle about her- like I worried about the other target of this ridiculous snobbery- Stormy Daniels. Trump is bad person and he hires bad people and they are powerful. A corrupted DOJ and FBI could really do some damage to an individual citizen who got on the wrong side of Dear Leader.

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    Platonailedit says:

    The media ‘dogs’. The enablers of these scums.

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    Kay says:

    Well, my middle son has a new girlfriend. She’s a fellow electrician. They’re still apprentices. She has a 3 year old so I finally get a toddler to play with :)

    I think. They’re keeping me from this boy right now but if I keep badgering them they’ll eventually turn him over. I get it- it’s a new relationship, blah blah, but let’s move this along, shall we? I’m not getting any younger.

    This is about me, if you think about it.

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    NotMax says:


    Not to mention unconstitutional. This isn’t a private business which set up the deal; it’s a blanket ban on freedom of speech of a government employee by the government.

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    Baud says:

    @Kay: It’s really selfish of them.

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    Platonailedit says:


    This is about me, if you think about it.


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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Kay: Heh. Every time my wife and I see one of our children, our love of little tykes comes up in conversation. I don’t know how that happens.

    They are right to keep the toddler distant. Children get attached easily and if things don’t work out it can be traumatic for them.

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    MomSense says:


    Just win baby

    Nancy fucking Smash is the best.

    If we can defeat Russian hacking and a feckless media to take back the house, I do not want a novice as Speaker. I want the person who knows every rule, maneuver, and trick with the gavel. This is a fight for our lives and we need the prizefighter.

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    frosty says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Fecking snowflakes. When you’re 5’4” *everyone* is physically intimidating. Deal with it. What a bunch of candy asses.

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    NotMax says:


    How is son’s recovery progressing, by the way?

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    Kay says:


    Exactly. I was embarrassed because they caught me stalking her on Facebook. I knew his name. I am just so slick, let me tell you. I blurt out his name the first time I meet her and they exchange looks. he never reveals anything so he knew I was sleuthing. I feel that is what Facebook is for – lurking. It’s like eavesdropping, which I love.

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    lamh36 says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Racist. What makes Omarosa “physically intimidating”? Other than being one of the rare Black women in their orbit bowing down at their feet and shucking and jiving for Chump…

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    MomSense says:


    We were at a family reunion over the weekend – distant family. There was a little toddler with ringlet curls. He was the cutest. Of course I thought his mom might like a break from chasing him all day. ;)

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    clay says:

    @Kay: Here’s what I’m coming to realize about Omarosa… she’s smart. Trump, and most in his orbit, have gotten ahead by being nasty — cheating and lying and threatening. Intelligence isn’t really part of it.

    Omarosa also does nasty — I certainly wouldn’t trust her. But she can apply smarts to her nastiness. She is tearing the Trumpers down chunk by chunk. It’s brilliant… make a claim, wait for them to call her a liar, then produce the tapes. I would NOT want to go up against her.

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    Just One More Canuck says:

    @MattF: Exactly – the world revolves around him

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @lamh36: For some, there is literally nothing in the world scarier than a black woman who speaks her mind.

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    lamh36 says:

    Good morning!

    Still thinking of the Queen of Soul!

    Enjoy this clip of her and Smokey Robinson!


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    rikyrah says:


    “I’m scared shitless of her… She’s a physically intimidating presence,” a male former colleague of Omarosa’s told me. (He wouldn’t let me use a more precise description of his former White House role because he admitted he’s still scared of retribution from Omarosa. Other senior officials have admitted the same to me.)

    Oh, so now the big, Black brute is a svelte, in shape Black woman?


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    Baud says:

    @Kay: Cambridge Analytica is looking for people like you.

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    rikyrah says:

    Republican lawmakers see FBI firings though a curious lens
    08/14/18 08:40 AM
    By Steve Benen

    Donald Trump and his allies have been relentless in targeting their perceived foes in federal law enforcement. Among those who’ve been fired are FBI Director James Comey, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, and as we learned yesterday, Peter Strzok, who led the FBI’s counterintelligence division.
    Among those who were reassigned, before ultimately quitting under pressure, are FBI Chief of Staff Jim Rybicki and FBI General Counsel James Baker.

    It’s against this backdrop that some of the White House’s allies have come up with a striking new observation. Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.), a Republican gubernatorial hopeful who’s been described as the president’s “mini-me,” published a fascinating Twitter thread yesterday.

    “The firing of anti-Trump FBI agent Peter Strzok is welcome, if overdue. By exhibiting such rampant bias, Strzok did enormous damage to the FBI and to the country.

    “Accountability has not always been quick or easy. But the fact that so many of 2016’s key players … have seen adverse actions taken against them shows that these matters were mishandled.”


    With this in mind, folks like DeSantis and Jordan are effectively arguing, “Our concerns about the FBI must’ve been right after all. Just look at all of those firings and demotions!”

    A more reality-based approach points in the opposite direction. The president and his allies, eager to undermine an ongoing investigation, have launched a partisan crusade against federal law enforcement. The purge of leading FBI officials isn’t proof of widespread wrongdoing at the bureau; it’s more likely evidence of a political vendetta against those the White House considers disloyal, problematic, or both.

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    rikyrah says:


    That is so cute, Kay. Two apprentices….awe…..
    How far away does your son live from you now?

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    rikyrah says:


    The NDA is on it’s face illegal. These people don’t work for trump, the work for the US govt.


    anything they couldn’t say would already be covered by governmental laws that have been in place for decades.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MomSense: A while back my niece joined her mother and my brother for a wkend on our place and brought her son with. Our stairs are little steep and both she and her mother warned the little guy to not climb them by himself. Well, of course, he did. And got properly scolded for it by his mother. And by his mother’s mother. And then by his mother’s mother’s husband. And then by his mother’s mother’s husband’s sister in law. The poor little guy was crying his eyes out when it was my turn and as one who NEVER did as he was told when he was a child I, of course, didn’t.

    I picked him up and put him on my lap and cuddled up with him and told it was OK, he wasn’t a bad boy, it’s just that all those other people are a bunch of big old meanies.

    I got dirty looks from them for the rest of the wkend but I was instantaneously transformed into “favorite uncle”. Worth every bit of it.

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    rikyrah says:


    The NDA?

    Phuck outta here.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Beautiful. Nice to see Don Cornelius there. I probably saw this when it was first broadcast!

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    Platonailedit says:


    We fired them, so we must be right.

    Only in the pox news infested wingnut world.

    The so called checks and balances must be rebuilt from ground up if USA wants to survive as a democracy.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Can’t decide who should run for Attorney General of CT on the Dem ticket. All the info is contradictory.

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    GregB says:

    The last election was a descent into idiocracy. We were pushed by shitty media, Russian trolls, global plutocrats, greedy American corporations and of course lots of racist and sexist putzes.

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    rikyrah says:

    Uh @NicolleDWallace is the first person I’ve seen on TV pointing out how crazy it is that Omarosa being fired in the situation room is scary not because she was able to get in a cell phone to record her firing but because it was empty! As in no one was in there WORKING pic.twitter.com/c1Lx2rj0AS

    — Zerlina Maxwell (@ZerlinaMaxwell) August 13, 2018

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: If you cared about national security, would you do your work in the White House?

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    Joey Maloney says:

    Well, today someone’s going to have to teach Donnie Dollhands how to pronounce “Genoa”. Of course, no one has yet succeeded in teaching him how to fake empathy.

    Highway bridge collapse in Genoa, Italy. At least 11 fatalities, probably many more.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Joey Maloney:

    He probably knows from ordering Italian subs.

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    rikyrah says:

    Just a reminder that he has NO CHARACTER.


    What Trump’s McCain snub tells us about his character
    08/14/18 08:00 AM
    By Steve Benen
    Donald Trump seems to enjoy headlining campaign rallies, and nearly all of his recent events have one thing in common: the Republican president sets aside time to whine about Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). Just from the last couple of months, there’s video evidence here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

    Yesterday, however, Trump had an opportunity to be gracious toward the ailing GOP senator of his own party. He just couldn’t bring himself to do it.

    Congress wanted to honor the ailing Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. President Donald Trump did not.

    In extended remarks during a visit to Fort Drum in upstate New York to sign the John S. McCain National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2019 – this year’s version of an annual bill that sets defense policy – Trump chose not to mention the former prisoner of war and Senate Armed Services Committee chairman who is battling brain cancer. He even omitted McCain’s name when citing the title of the bill.

    It would have been easy for Trump to show some class. He could’ve at least acknowledged the name of the legislation, which honored McCain and his priorities. It would’ve taken very little effort for the president to mention the Republican senator in some perfunctory way.

    But, no. Trump made no reference to McCain while signing the John S. McCain National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2019.

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    rikyrah says:

    Another Mueller opponent fails in challenge to special counsel

    Rachel Maddow reports on a ruling by a Trump-appointed judge against Concord Management and Consulting, whose lawyers tried to challenge the legitimacy of the special counsel as a means of getting rid of charges against the social media propagandists.

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    rikyrah says:

    Trump team destroying careers of Comey witnesses one by one

    Rachel Maddow points out that six of the seven people James Comey told about his meetings with Donald Trump are gone or leaving the FBI, with the one who hasn’t been made into a political punching bag, David Bowdich, firing Peter Strzok, contrary to FBI personnel office guidance.

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    rikyrah says:

    Banker loaned millions to Manafort, sought Trump admin ‘rolls’

    Rachel Maddow shares an exhibit from the trial of Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort in which banker Stephen Calk, who gave Manafort $16 million in loans, lists in a poorly spelled e-mail “perspective rolls” he would like to have in the Trump administration.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Omarosa was right to call her book deranged.

    Trump tweets this AM (as of 8:30):

    • 3-part quote from Judicial Watch (likely via Fox)
    • Quote from Fox Business' Lou Dobbs
    • Calls Omarosa "that dog"
    • London terror attack
    • Fox and Friends quote
    • Quote from Gregg Jarrett on Fox and Friends
    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 14, 2018

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    rikyrah says:

    Mueller gets ‘protective order’ on George Papadopoulos evidence

    Rachel Maddow wonders out loud for anyone who might know the answer, why Robert Mueller got a protective order on evidence in the George Papadopoulos case just days before making a sentencing recommendation.

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    danielx says:


    Dude, I still have a landline in my house, primarily for those people who only have a landline number for me (very old friends and the like). Still can’t be beat for clarity of voice transmission. Plus it’s basically a gimme with one of those cable/internet/voice packages.

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    Kay says:


    He lives in Toledo, so about an hour away. It is cute that they’re both apprentices. The union started a women’s group so they could talk about how they’re sexually harassed on job sites (which they are). They met because he witnessed a foreman asking her “where she had danced” (means ‘stripper’) and he corroborated her account of the remark. He says she’s “popular” in the women’s group- my sense was that means “outspoken” so that’s good. He’s used to opinionated women. They’re trying to get women in the trades but, you know, they’re horrible to them which is probably harming recruitment.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @debbie: That’s what happens when you’re famous like Trump was – I bet no one ever corrected him on anything or told him “no”. Un-fucking unbelievable that this cretin is in the white house. Omarosa would make a better president, and I am not a fan of Omarosa. I do like her spilling the beans now, though. Payback’s a bitch.

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    NonyNony says:


    I’m still laughing at these pansy asses.

    I’m not. Buncha fucking racists. “Oooh – we couldn’t do our jobs because the black person scared us so much.”

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    Elizabelle says:


    six of the seven people James Comey told about his meetings with Donald Trump are gone or leaving the FBI

    I wonder if that looks like tampering to Team Mueller. It might very well. Makes you wonder too if Bowdich did the dirty, dirty work of firing to try to save his own career. Maybe Strzok and others were OK with him doing that.

    Disgusted to hear Brian Williams last night interviewing some woman formerly with FBI administration; they were discussing how Strzok “embarrassed the Bureau” … turned that shit right off. Nancy Pelosi is not wrong that NBC is wired for Republicans. MSNBC’s libtards are only a useful face for them.

    Also: interesting to learn that Strzok had the whole weekend in privacy to get used to the firing before news broke on Monday morning.

    That makes me think our dumbass Asset-in-Chief didn’t know of the timing of the firing. He would have been all over that.

    It’s very possible that all this nastiness directed at career FBI professionals is going to bring them down on his orange-tinted ass.

    Sad! that the tools in the NY FBI field office get so much time to destroy evidence of their intervention.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Holy fuck, was that real? Did he really call Omarosa a dog?????

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    MomSense says:


    This little guy kept going for the meeting gavel (yes our family uses Robert’s Rules of Order because we put the Pur in Puritan) and his mom, grandma, and aunts kept taking it away and scolding him. When it was my teenager’s turn to chase him, the kid went straight for the gavel. So my kid taught him how to do it and to say “the moson cawies” which was adorable.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NonyNony: I always laugh at racists. Not the damage they do.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Elizabelle: This part was so awesome I just have to see it in print again:

    I do not think we should let our opponents, the Republicans, pick our leaders. The Republicans are spending millions, tens of millions of dollars, against me. Because they’re afraid of me because I outraise them in the political arena, I outsmart them at the negotiating table, and because I’m a woman who is going to be a seat at that table.

    That is very important to me. If Hillary Clinton had won and had sat at the head of that table it would be different, but I am not yielding that. None of us is indispensable, but I think I am the best person for the job.

    And I won’t let the Republican ads, which are just flooding these districts, I say to candidates: Do whatever you have to do, just win, baby.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @WaterGirl: Yes. Nancy Pelosi told the truth. I wonder if NBC ever gives her an opportunity to say that elsewhere than libtard central MSNBC.

    That’s clear information that the general public needs. Don’t let the Republicans mischaracterize Nancy Smash.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: Breaking: Black people aren’t stupid.

    Of course, as I typed that it occurred to me, Trumps’s 40% of the population probably DO think that black people are stupid.

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    satby says:

    @MomSense: that is just adorable!

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    Tokyokie says:

    @rikyrah: It’s even simpler than that. As any freshlaw can tell you, an enforceable contract must contain four elements: offer, acceptance, intention to create a legal relationship, and consideration. I don’t see that der Trumpenführer is offering consideration in any of these agreements, and whereas accepting a job on the federal payroll may indicate an intention to create a legal relationship with the U.S. government, that intention does not extend to the president as well. (Were der Trumpenführer to pay the likes of Omarosa from campaign accounts, then the intention to create a legal relationship element might be met, but I’m guessing those campaign accounts are constantly being looted by “the best people.” And the NDAs would still not be enforceable because of a lack of consideration, just as those that people who worked for the Trump Organization signed are likewise unenforceable.)

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    WaterGirl says:

    @lamh36: My theory?

    Physically intimidating is the female form of the word thug. Like actor and actress. Aka scary black person.

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    TS (the original) says:

    @rikyrah: trump is vicious and evil. If President Obama had fired 6 top FBI people the media, the GOP, would be screaming for impeachment – and there would probably be some democrats supporting same.

    His morning tweets show the detail of how he treats people who do not fall down before him & the gutter language he uses. I am reminded of a poem by an Australian poet who spoke of

    “the language uninviting of the gutter children sniping”

    and I think, no child would speak like this man, regardless of their background. People are taught these words by their parents – trump shows us who he is with every tweet, every word and every gesture.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Joey Maloney: Trump might already know that one. There is a salami called Genoa salami, so he might have heard of that. If so, cue Trump saying “you guys are the ones that make the salami, right?”

    edit: I see that someone else got there first.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @rikyrah: What does getting a protective order on evidence actually mean? Isn’t evidence already in their possession? Or does it mean that the evidence can’t be talked about publicly?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @WaterGirl: Dunning-Kruger.

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    Alex the Aardvark says:

    I have no idea what you’re talking about, so here’s a pooch preventing a cat fight.

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    DonL140 says:

    Of course it’s going to be the lowest common denominator. We’ve been headed downhill for a long time, and it’s not because we have struggled with bringing the bottom up. It’s because the top has been so successful at exploiting stupid, which as we all know, you can’t fix stupid.

    Trump could be impeached right now, for gross incompetence. If nothing else, the Russia press conference was enough to remove him from office. Period.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    Don’t they have those cool, illuminated world maps (that I’ve always wanted) that show where it’s day and night, hanging all over the White House? I see them all the time in movies and TV.
    My five-year-old granddaughter gets time zones, ‘I can’t call grandma because she’s sleeping now.’ Sheesh.
    I suppose a globe and flashlight demonstration is useless. You’d have to believe the world is round.

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    afanasia says:

    @Kay: You have documented child handling skills. Replace all the framed photos at your house with adorable pictures of you and your kids at the playground if she comes for dinner, and the kid is yours. For the day :)

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    Fair Economist says:

    @Elizabelle: My son’s now-ex girlfriend’s mom had her car stolen from her carport presumably because even in her house the fob was close enough. Pushbutton cars are a serious security risk.

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    Barbara says:

    @Kay: Like I said last night, it is no accident or coincidence that the people who are in the best position to yank Trump’s chain the hardest are show biz journos like Michael Wolff, pit bull lawyers like Avenatti, and reality show grifters like Manigault-Newman. They don’t want anything in return from Trump or the Republican party or its lapdog media outlets or so-called think tanks. In contrast to Maggie Haberman, who needs the information spigot to keep flowing, or Republicans in Congress who need donor cash and many of whom are probably implicated in wrongdoing themselves on the Russian front. What makes Wolff, Avenatti and Omarosa hard to stop is that they are happy to take the pay day whatever it costs powerful people. No appeal to duty or ethics or anything else is going to stop them.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Fair Economist: Why are manufacturers putting them out? They seem to be an answer to a problem that pretty much does not exist.

    Plus, it trains folks to not have their keys in hand when approaching the vehicle. Know a friend who’s gotten locked out of his car for that reason.

    The traveling couple is from a near-beach town in coastal North Carolina, population 1,907. I am so sad that their visit to Richmond ended with such near-tragedy and actual theft of their belongings and sense of security. They are 76 and 86 years old. This might train them not to travel as bravely as before, and that is such a loss. I feel like writing them a friendly little note. So cool they visited the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, which is an amazing museum.

    I’m glad the paper covered the story in full. It’s a good lesson for others who (a) have keyfob cars and (b) travel with pets. Be smarter and safer out there.

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    Barbara says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Talk about unnecessary piling on! If mom or dad is there, let them take care of it. There is no mileage in doing anything other than gently backing up the parent and then moving on.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    Trump understands time zones just fine. He just doesn’t give a shit. Zero impulse control. He wants something, he wants it right now and if it’s right in the middle of the night for you, too fucking bad.

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    trnc says:

    @rikyrah: Why does McCain (or any senator) get his name on a defense authorization bill? Bills to introduce new laws are usually named for senators who write them, but naming for an annual budget bill seems odd.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @NotMax: Trump probably did it himself, thinking that it made it polite. Republicans have a real problem recognizing that the problem is not the word, it’s the action and attitude.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @frosty: I think it’s her refusal to be intimidated that they find intimidating and I find quite amusing.

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    J R in WV says:


    We have a land line, we need to living in a cell hole.

    We are too, as is much of WV. Isn’t it interesting how hard it is for many people from flat or urban places to understand that everyone isn’t connected via cell 24/7?

    I attempted to set up an account with social security, which has not been a success. Once I got a through email from them informing me that I needed to give them my cell number, because they were implementing two-phase security, and would text me a one time password to log in to my social security account.

    I wrote a very detailed letter about why that wouldn’t work for me (not having cell service at my home computer) and a large proportion of the national population to both senators. IIRC I also attempted to contact Social Security, tho they make that difficult, we are to be spoken to, not to speak!!

    A little while later on I got a message that their attempt at two-phase security was being redesigned. Haven’t heard how the downtown geniuses at the SS HQ missed that many don’t have cell service, nor how they intend to deal with it. Email would work, like ever big corp uses it to reset passwords… but that isn’t modern and new… Not invented here.

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    J R in WV says:


    So sad Aretha is down in the hospital. We grew up to her as part of our soundtrack of life.

    We watched a Kennedy Center award ceremony where she performed. President and Ms Obama were in the audience. Her performance was a masterpiece in every way. Not a huge soul fan, but the best of the best in most genres of music are so obviously above and beyond – it was wonderful to see her, the showmanship, the music, and she was so loved by her audience.

    As we age the masters of our youth will all pass away, and it’s hard to deal with.

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    Zinsky says:

    The stupid is very strong in the Trump genes. Look, Donald Trump has been in the media since the 1970s and everyone should have known by the 2016 election that he was a vulgar, classless sexual degenerate who has no real friends, has zero sense of humor and isn’t even capable of the most basic common human decencies. He is a boor, a criminal fatass and a loser, regardless of what his bank balances are. He needs to go to prison and remain there until death.

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    Kay says:

    One of my sisters calls Trump “a constant embarrassment”, which makes me laugh. She’s proper and this behavior just kills her.

    I don’t have that kind of collective “the President is us” thing, so I don’t really feel embarrassed – I don’t think he reflects on me at all- but I get it. If countries had feelings it would be embarrassing.

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    sukabi says:

    @Kay: it’s not officially titled persons of the government that Omarosa and others that cross trump and his family have to worry about. It’s his rabid followers and his underworld connectioned thugs that will cause harm either on order or to gain favor.

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    sukabi says:

    @trnc: probably because he’s very close to permanently checking out. One last homage to him while he’s still able to comprehend they miss him.

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    Tehanu says:

    @Nicole: @OzarkHillbilly: I’m hard of hearing, have worn hearing aids for almost 40 years, and I love texting and HATE having to talk on the phone. Half the time the sound quality is terrible, full of buzzes, and people mumble — or, when you say “hard of hearing,” they shout so loud it comes out garbled as well as painful because I’ve turned the volume up hoping to hear them. Now at work we’ve just lost our real telephones and have headphones for “Skype Voice” — and whose bright idea it was to give our phone functions to fkg Microsoft, I don’t want to know — so I’ve changed my voicemail message to, DON’T CALL ME!!! E-mail or IM me, but I’m not wearing the headphones all day to get a headache from the pressure on the hearing aids. (Phrased slightly more politely, but that’s the gist.) Oh, how I miss the old AT&T phones — I had a detachable volume thing that worked like a charm and the sound quality was perfect. Even the fairly good Cisco phone they just took away from me had all the buzzing and aggravation of my cell, and if there’s any ambient noise, forget it.

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    Dan B says:

    @Elizabelle: We’ve got a Nissan Leaf. The fob works if you’re 10 to 15 feet from the car and that’s it. If you’re in the house it doesn’t work or uf you’re on the other side of a wall. No security issue….except uf you’re my partner. He can’t stand having anything in any pocket. Phone, keys, and wallet are regularly lost. Le sigh…

    And locking doors! Good thing we live in a low crime neighborhood.

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    NotMax says:

    @Dan B

    Lightly pressing the business end of the fob under your chin, while facing in the general direction of the car, can increase the range significantly.

    Really, truly.

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