Our Failed Meritocracy / Media: “OMGarosa!!!

(This was scheduled to pop up at 10am this morning, but FYWP… )







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    Gin & Tonic says:

    So Cole bigfoots AL, as is right and just, and then fucking pulls the post!? What is this world coming to? Who was secretly recording in Cole’s situation room (that’s the pink one, if you weren’t sure.)

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Is that the one with the awkward layout that makes no sense? Oh wait, that’s the kitchen.

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    Gozer says:

    @Gin & Tonic: My money’s on Steve.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    What it all comes down to: The Trump Admin is full of unethical, corrupt grifters and assholes. They’re generally not to be trusted, except when one of them has recordings or proof.

    Whoops.

    And then apply that first statement (no one can trust them) and realize that domestically no one can afford to believe the White House on anything. Then realize it means we can’t ever negotiate with other countries either, for the exact same reason.

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    retiredeng says:

    The next president will need to have the WH fumigated with all the trash, fast food wrappers and bugs. The most efficient way will be to burn it to the ground and start over.

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    dmsilev says:

    They all thoroughly deserve each other, and have all thoroughly earned the mutual multi-way torture session that they’re putting each other through.

    If Sartre were still alive, he’d update his classic play and call it The Oval Office Has No Exit.

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    Given the discussion of lying, I put in that I blogged about how readers crave truth, so the writer has to avoid cheating on people’s emotions and actions. Maybe that’s not what people crave after all? Or maybe not doing that is what makes books into crap.

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    lamh36 says:

    I saw that tweet about her being “physcally intimidating”…and even Chump’s tweets. Look, I cannot stand Omarosa…I would not likely throw water on her if she was on fire….but I can already tell that certain folks will cross a line into racist rhetoric and bigotted rhetoric when discussing Omarosa (on the left and the right, not just the nuthjobs), and I will feel the need to have to come to her defense and then I would be MAD AF!!!

    @ZerlinaMaxwell
    6h6 hours ago
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    I’m just going to say that Omarosa is saying things we already knew to be true because we have eyes and ears BUT the media is acting A LOT different than they did in Sean Spicer interviews. #ImNotDefendingHer #Observations

    @ZerlinaMaxwell
    6h6 hours ago
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    Sidenote: General Kelly DEFENDED Rob Porter AFTER the photos of his bruised ex-wife came out.

    General Kelly attacked a Black congresswoman with LIES and never apologized.
    https://twitter.com/ZerlinaMaxwell/status/1029050918623428609

    Say it with me…IMPLICIT BIAS!

    Throw shade her way…for sure (hell, I’m doing right now…) but I’ll be watching the reporting as well

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    What is this world coming to?

    Donald Trump in command of nuclear weapons.

    Does that answer your question?

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    Corner Stone says:

    I’m not spending a fucking penny on FBI veteran Pete Strzok.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @retiredeng:

    The most efficient way will be to burn it to the ground and start over.

    Ideally with all of the current vermin trapped inside of it.

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    @MisterForkbeard: hey I wanna talk about that game idea you had and that I’m going to steal!

    ETA can I email you at the BJ email?

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    lamh36 says:

    Anyway…I’m leave Omarosa and Chump to tear each other apart, I have other things on my mind right now.

    I have never met Aretha Franklin, have never seen her perform LIVE, and yet her music is like a soundtrack to my grandmother’s life. I spent a lot of time with my grandmother, so Aretha feels like my great aunt even though I’ve never met her. One of the last performances I recall seeing was her performing at the Kennedy Center Honors for Carol King. She sang Natural Woman…and of course…brought the house down!

    Once again, sending prayers up for her and her family.

    #GOAT #LEGEND #QUEENOFSOUL

    Aretha Franklin – Natural Woman (Kennedy Center Honors) https://youtu.be/diwF1-xJwZM

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @lamh36: Yep. No question that Omarosa is being treated differently and the reporting around her is at best subtly racist. The “physically intimidating” thing as well as the “we’re paralyzed because she’s the only AA senior staffer!” were both eyebrow-raising.

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    geg6 says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Who is asking you to? I’m sure he can take care of himself.

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    ruemara says:

    Love the dog whistle of Omarosa being “physically intimidating”. As someone who regularly plenty and often has to deal with people in a work environment who treat me as if at any moment I will be trying to mug them in a hallway or like the black might get on them, fuck you, male colleague. I wouldn’t piss on Omarosa if she was on fire, but that is an all my life level of microaggression and damn if it isn’t also the excuse bigots make as to why we wind up dead when unarmed and not resisting. She better watch her back. This shit is levels of criminality above Trump’s usual, which was already dangerous plus she doesn’t have a community that will rally around her.

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    Yutsano says:

    @retiredeng: So…have Britain/Canada invade again?

    I for one welcome our new Canuckistani overlords.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @lamh36:

    Say it with me…IMPLICIT BIAS!

    👆🏻 THIS! Really, we’re supposed to believe that a Black woman automatically is physically intimidating but a known domestic abuser isn’t?

    If I could teach my fellow white people just one thing, it would be that their irrational fear of all Black and brown people is exactly that — irrational. Their racism leads them to see a threat where none exists, and that leads to a whole lot of bad things.

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    Yutsano says:

    @lamh36: I’m gonna make it a point to listen to her Nessum Dorma tonight. Man I wish someone would have thought to put her into an actual opera. She would have been fantastic.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @geg6: Cole’s twit feed has a link to the gofundme for Strzok. I was not asked, personally, by anyone but just felt like saying fuck Pete Strzok.

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    Brachiator says:

    Omarosa, Hope Hicks, Spicer, Kelly, Trump himself, that Moochi guy whatever his name was, all shithole people in a shithole administration. All of them.

    You see the grift, and the stink, but you don’t really learn anything that you didn’t know. The reporters who cover this nonsense do nothing more than wallow in the muck. Their editors are fools if they think they are going to find anything worthwhile in this.

    And Trump digging down deeper into the muck reminds me of another piece of shit in the news recently, the slimeball white side of the family of Meghan Markle.

    To hell with all of them.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Yutsano:

    In before Subaru Diane corrects you: “Nessun Dorma.”

    I remember seeing it on live TV and being completely blown away.

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    rikyrah says:

    Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) Tweeted:
    The Trump Admin has decided that banks aren’t part of the “financial services” industry, & that they should get an additional $2.5 billion in tax giveaways under the #GOPTaxScam. There’s no limit to what @realDonaldTrump will do to reward his rich buddies. https://t.co/PpmW6cXSpA https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1028997226234867712?s=17

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    sdhays says:

    @lamh36: Yeah, that “physically intimidating” line is really something.

    Sean Spicer’s word is shit. Every appearance he makes on TV should make him feel like he’s getting a tonsillectomy by doctor going up the wrong way. Omarosa’s lies can’t be worse than Sean “Up is Down, Black is White, Night is Day” Spicer. And right now, maybe the spin she’s putting on some things isn’t quite right (or maybe it is, I don’t know), but she has tapes and she’s not saying anything outlandish in the context of Trump White House; it’s all plausible, while Sean continues to peddle obvious lies.

    She’s a horrible person, but I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest she’s anywhere near the worst or least trustworthy person who has ever worked in that White House.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @ruemara:

    I mean, you could probably take me in a fight, but that’s because I’m flabby and out of shape and you go to the gym three times a week. 🏃🏾‍♀️

    Knee surgery is finally coming on the 31st, though, so hopefully I can get back in shape after that.

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    rikyrah says:

    Did you see the Omarosa interview with Savannah Guthrie?

    If not, you should.
    This Twitter feed is a perfect recap of the slam dunk from Omarosa

    https://twitter.com/Genieality/status/1029005988492443648

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    lamh36 says:

    @Brachiator: OMG…yes…smh…Meghan Markle don’t need my sympathy, but damn if I don’t feel bad for her…she can’t even enjoy being a newlywed and that trash paternal side selling her out…smh.

    From past footage I’ve seen of her, she seemed to have had a good relationship with her father. She’s spokenly of him highly in the past…but this latest shit…UGH

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    Corner Stone says:

    This is actually a pretty good interview by Tweety so far.

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    lamh36 says:

    @rikyrah: Right…the bish knows how to play their game…and that’s why they are as pissed about it as they seem. She’s an “imcompetent lowlife”, yet she’s beatin them at their own damn game.

    As I said, I’m watching out for the bias, but as I do, I’m just enjoying this popcorn!

    And she’s on with Tweety now…smh…I’m gonna bet, Matthews aint ready for her.

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    germy says:

    @ruemara:

    Love the dog whistle of Omarosa being “physically intimidating”.

    https://www.balloon-juice.com/2018/08/13/youre-the-puppet-2/#comment-6980492
    That whistle was blowing on a thread here this morning:

    Yarrow says:
    August 13, 2018 at 11:27 am
    @hells littlest angel: I watched some of the interview and noticed that Savannah Guthrie had one of her arms across her torso most of the time. It looked odd and kind of like she was trying to protect herself from Omarosa.

    MattF says:
    August 13, 2018 at 11:32 am
    @Yarrow: I’d bet that, in real life, Omarosa comes across as physically aggressive.

    Yarrow says:
    August 13, 2018 at 11:41 am
    @MattF: The size difference between them alone was noticeable.

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    Nicole says:

    Tommy Vietor’s tweet is depressing, because it makes me realize how much we, as a nation, have simply accepted that Trump is deteriorating and is not in control of anything and that’s just the way it is. Like that part of her books is the part that is entirely NOT news.

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    For the love of God, Mueller, get your fucking report done already.

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    cain says:

    @lamh36: Aretha Franklin – Natural Woman (Kennedy Center Honors) https://youtu.be/diwF1-xJwZM

    I sometimes sing this song aloud. Which sometimes gets me strange looks. Cuz I’m not a woman. (or transgendered, or ‘it’s complicated’)

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    randy khan says:

    If you keep criticizing someone as untrustworthy on the facts after she starts releasing tapes that confirm her accounts of events, maybe you should rethink your criticism.

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    Platonailedit says:

    @rikyrah:

    She definitely sounds less insane than the ranting traitorous thug. Far, far less.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Corner Stone: Is he using his usual interveiw style, where he interrupts them before than can completely answer?

    If so, it’s probably the best way to get Omarosa off her game. Guthrie on the Today Show, made the mistake of letting Omarosa control the interview…

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    rikyrah says:

    As a Black woman, I will give my opinion about Omarosa.
    Goes way back to her time on The Apprentice, and her sabotaging that qualified Brotha that made it to the finals. He took a chance on her, and she stabbed him in the back. That impression of Omarosa has never left. and, she has.done nothing to change my opinion of her.

    That said, watching this is hilarious.
    The only person in the White House who actually took Omarosa seriously is Dolt45. The rest of them didn’t grasp her.

    They are used to a certain type of Black person. You have the ones who want to.be deemed the special ones, and they parrot all the GOP talking points. They show up on Fox News. They will even form their lips to attack 44 and Forever FLOTUS 😍 😍.

    Their names-Crystal Wright, Stacey Dash, that slave catcher pastor that Joy Reid kicked off her show. Cubic and Zerconia. The latest one is Candace Owens.

    Then, you have the sort of old time GOPers who drank the Kool aid and want to be invited to the parties. This is the Armstrong Williams, Michael Steele, Ben Carson..

    And ,then there is Omarosa. She doesn’t have an allegiance to a political philosophy. She has an allegiance to Omarosa. For all her tv appearances, you didn’t see her out there trying to shill GOP swill.

    She was smart enough to keep 44 and Forever FLOTUS 😍 😍 out her mouth.

    For all the talk of distancing herself from the Black community…taping them was straight up.Black Professional Sensibilities.

    Omarosa did none of the heavy lifting of the other Black GOP Pundits, but wound up with the job in the White House-@doing Nothing.

    And, always had a Plan B in place.

    There is nothing that she’s saying that you don’t believe. Nothing that sounds outrageous.

    The MSM, especially those interested in writing their own.books which justifies their ‘access journalism’, are coming down on her because she is like Michael Wolff. She doesn’t give a shyt about the parties. She wants to GET PAID.

    We have a President that routinely goes around talking on unsecure phones, and I am supposed to give two shyts about Omarosa taping folks?
    Really?

    I will be blunt:
    She👏is👏that👏 BYTCH 👏

    And, it’s amusing to watch the part of the MSM who doesn’t get that.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Corner Stone:
    Why do you hate America?

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @randy khan: Well, we can and should be wary of historically untrustworthy people. But calling them untrustworthy doesn’t make the tapes go away.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @retiredeng: I was thinking that an exorcism would be in order.

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    Montanareddog says:

    1. Corey Lewandowski
    2. Omarosa
    3. Mooch
    4. Rob Porter
    5. Gorka

    The infamous photo includes the “physically intimidating” Omarosa. Of course, not “physically intimidating” are:

    1. the journalist assaulting Corey Lewandowski
    3. the coked to his eyeballs Mooch
    4. the multiple wife-beating Rob Porter
    5. the gun-carrier-through-airport-security-with-a-head-larger-than-some-dwarf-planets Gorka

    Since they were all fired, what is it about Omarosa that is different?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @lamh36: No, actually he did not. Tweety was rapid fire asking some questions but they built on her answers. I’m not a fan of O but she handled herself very well and gave Matthews places to go and he went there. This was the opposite of his usual spazz shtick.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Are you going to do a literature recommendation thread soon?

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    randy khan says:

    @MisterForkbeard:

    To be clear, I was referring to the White House and the Republican Party folks.

    That said, she seems to have anticipated the criticism and dealt with it by having the tapes. It’s almost like she planned the book while she was there.

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    rikyrah says:

    @germy:
    Omarosa is a svelte and physically fit woman.
    But, she is a Black woman in America who knows the game.

    She has three degrees.
    Why.is she on television in that very feminine Yellow dress?

    Cause, she knows that the first thing that can happen to a.Black woman to dehumanize her,.is to try and take away her femininity.

    Their is nothing about Omarosa that says masculine. She wears her hair perfectly coiffed, her makeup is flawless, and that dress was feminine, not professional, but feminine.
    She saw them coming a mile away.😒

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @randy khan: She seems like she knows how to advance/protect herself, for sure. Recording people in the Trump Admin probably wasn’t particularly hard, nor was it illegal from what I can see. And knowing how these assholes regularly turn on the ‘good’ rich white people that work with them for the crime of being competent or not kowtowing to Trump enough, the black lady made some smart pre-emptive decisions concerning the racists she works with.

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    germy says:

    @rikyrah:

    We have a President that routinely goes around talking on unsecure phones, and I am supposed to give two shyts about Omarosa taping folks?
    Really?

    I will be blunt:
    She👏is👏that👏 BYTCH 👏

    And, it’s amusing to watch the part of the MSM who doesn’t get that.

    Very true.

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    Martin says:

    I’m scared shitless of her… She’s a physically intimidating presence

    I bet the lives of my children this is Stephen Miller.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Text your girlfriend that you don't like Trump = Fired

    Tweet that an entire continent is a shithole, while telling 4,000 lies to the American people = remain President

    Peter Strzok is a hero.

    — Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) August 13, 2018

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    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: I was planning on it yeah. This weekend seems like a good time. Some folks suggested it would be a good idea to really drill down into a particular genre, but I don’t know where to start!

    Why do you ask?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    In before Subaru Diane corrects you: “Nessun Dorma.”

    Hahaha, Mnem, you know me too well: I was literally getting ready to do that!

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @Platonailedit: In the interest of being a pedantic asshole, Trump didn’t actually tweet about Africa being a shithole. He just talked about it in meetings with senior congressional leaders.

    But we can replace that with any of the other incredibly creepy and racist things Trump’s done.

    @Major Major Major Major: Pick a weirdly specific genre! Something like “Let’s talk about long-form graphic novels” or if you want to be less weird, maybe: “Science Fiction literature involving first contact”. Possibly “Books you think John Cole would hate”?

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    Martin says:

    @rikyrah: Yeah. Omarosa is not exactly my cup of tea, but she knows the game and plays it well. Far be it for me to complain about someone succeeding in a world designed for average white men like me. Her Apprentice appearance solidified for me that I hate reality shows like that, not that I dislike Omarosa, who was simply playing the role they wanted her to play.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @MisterForkbeard: I take the subtext of the “physically intimidating” to be “She’s not intimidated by my white male awsomeness.”

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    Platonailedit says:

    @rikyrah:

    For all her tv appearances, you didn’t see her out there trying to shill GOP swill.

    Good point. Fucking fat for neck spicey is still kissing the traitorous thug’s rectum and spewing the lies that emanate from there.

    Of all the corrupt and venal weasels that the thug ‘fired’, she is the first one to call the thug mentally incompetent to be a prez.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @sdhays:

    She’s a horrible person, but I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest she’s anywhere near the worst or least trustworthy person who has ever worked in that White House.

    I agree about the horrible person part. But if I had to choose between Omarosa’s credibility and that of Kellyanne Conway (or, god forbid, Sarah Huckabee Sanders), I wouldn’t hesitate to align myself with Team O.

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    germy says:

    Omarosa says Melania plans on divorcing PEETUS at some point. She says Melania wears outfits to deliberately troll her husband. The “I don’t care” jacket, the white jumpsuit, the pussy bow blouse, etc. I wonder if that trolling goes right over his head.

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    Corner Stone says:

    I have never liked Guthrie and it is weird how happy I am that Omarosa controls that entire interview. Puts Guthrie in her place a few times.

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    @MisterForkbeard: I feel like for anything specific that’s outside my wheelhouse (which is most things) I’d need some help. I’m gonna toss out some chum in an open thread later. p.s. see my question earlier in thread about emailing you

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @lamh36:

    I played that on the piano today three times in a row. I’m so sad.

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    Montanareddog says:

    Quoted from Trump’s tweets about Omarosa:

    “… vicious, but not smart.”

    “Nasty to people & would constantly miss meetings & work.”

    ” a loser & nothing but problems”

    He’s projecting again

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @cain: You want odd looks? Let me tell you about the time I was standing in line at the bank and realized I was singing (barely) audibly: Haaapineeeess is a warm guuuunn. If I weren’t an old lady I’m sure questions would have been asked. As it was, people probably just figured I was senile.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Just wondering. I have some recs I’ve been wanting to share. BTW, do fanfics count?

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    @🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷: I’ve been known to enjoy some fanfic but I don’t know how receptive the whole blog is to it. You can obviously recommend whatever you want in the comments.

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    Ajabu says:

    For all the talk of distancing herself from the Black community…taping them was straight up.Black Professional Sensibilities.

    TELL IT!
    Nothing you said I’d disagree with…

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @rikyrah: We’re supposed to judge between Trump and Omerosa for truth telling? Seriously? How many lies has he racked up now? Nothing she has said about him would be at all out of character.

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    ruemara says:

    @Mnemosyne: 3x? Only for my hour of cardio days. The other days it’s an hour of weights & an hour of cardio, so 6x a week. /Gymrat.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Cool. Care to share any you’ve liked in particular?

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @rikyrah:

    Good analysis.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @ruemara: You hit upon it. I used to work for this ol’ bastard that made us clean the restroom every time a black person used it. I asked a co-worker about this and he said, “He’s afraid he’ll get some on him.” Meanwhile, the nastiest white people in the world would go and he would go right after them, no problem.
    As for Omarosa, like I said about Stephen Miller in an earlier thread – (s)he just looks like another white asshole to me.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @germy: I wonder if that trolling goes right over his head.

    It won’t know that Omarosa has put it in his head. The most interesting thing about this to me has been her performance for the Audience of One. That’s usually done to flatter and presuade. She’s torturing him by hitting weak spots she probably has a keen eye for having been around him for so long. The way she keeps saying he doesn’t run the show, he’s deteriorating mentally, now that Melania hates him. Even teasing a recording of Princess Lucrezia. That must have him chewing paper in a rage

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    @lamh36: Kelly had many people excusing his behavior long after it his racism, bigotry and misogyny were publicly known.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @ruemara: Gah. I used to regularly do two hours at the gym, more than ten years ago. Now I’m proud of myself if I make myself stay for an hour, and if I’m honest a good fifteen minutes of that is me sitting on the machine pretending to rest between sets when I’m staring off into space thinking “God I hate this shit”.

    I can make myself do cardio, get music going and get into a zone and the time goes by pretty easily. Working with weights is… work.

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    MagdaInBlack says:

    @rikyrah:
    I take back my assessment of the dress being “inappropriate.”
    I see exactly what you’re talking about. Like her or not, she has their full attention, and as I said this morning, she’s validating everything we knew.
    I,too, am enjoying the flustered, frightened MSM.

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    germy says:

    Why is it that Stacey Abrams is coming under attack for her student loan debt while everyone nods politely over Brett Kavanaugh going $200k into debt from baseball season tickets and country club dues?https://t.co/fmJBlfdlp3
    — Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) August 13, 2018

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    Shana says:

    @rikyrah: I agree completely with you about all that and add only this one point:

    she taped conversations for all the same reasons that people are recording interactions with police and random bigots as proof of what really happens so she has proof.

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    MagdaInBlack says:

    @Gelfling 545:
    Subtext is “She’s a strong, take no shite black woman and that scares hell out of me
    (I’m used to simpering complacent barbie dolls)”
    Period

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    @germy:
    Can’t imagine. Headscratcher, that is.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Brian Beutler @ brianbeutler
    Omarosa to Chris Matthews on Mueller: “if his office calls *again*…”

    Had anyone reported that Mueller had contacted Omarosa at least once before today?

    So does Mueller have all of the recordings? I’m guessing he will by lunch tomorrow

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    Platonailedit says:

    @germy:

    The group of pissants have chosen a dear leader who declared bankruptcy multiple times. It always projection with these corrupt to the core scums.

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    Immanentize says:

    @rikyrah:

    She wants to GET REAL PAID

    (I added the real)

    “This is America”
    And, as you always say — she’s got receipts.

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    Platonailedit says:

    To that jackass kanye.

    Donald Trump will at some point die.

    https://t.co/fn7bARoym5— God (@TheTweetOfGod) August 13, 2018

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @rikyrah:

    Cubic and Zerconia.

    Win.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @germy: $200 grand on baseball… yeah, I really believe that.

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    Jay says:

    @rikyrah:

    Thank you so much for both laying out the context and calling out the dogwhistles

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @rikyrah: @Jay: Seconded.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    OK, I had a gut rage reaction to the idea of recording in a SCIF because I’ve spent most of my professional life protecting information I was entrusted and I take security rules very very seriously. It bugs me when Republicans get away with crap I’d lose my job for. Not just that. “Classified” has a legal definition. It’s information that will DAMAGE YOUR M-F’ING COUNTRY, THE DEN WHERE YOU SLEEP, if released.

    But I’m now coming around to team O thanks to this thread. I’m glad she’s got tapes. In fact, I have been hoping and praying that somebody on our side is bugging Trump to the eyeballs, especially his “no Americans present” meetings with Putin and his ilk. So my gut rage reaction was contradictory. Go Omarosa! Hope you recorded every single meeting with those traitors, in high-definition 3-camera video! And have lots of backups.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    It seems like everybody was recording everybody in this whole mess, so I wonder if anybody has tapes of Omarosa in her more candid moments? Get that popcorn poppin’.

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    Jay says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    I can believe it. Prime seats to a sold out game or anticipated clash would be a good way to “grease” people for favours, and talking Inside Baseball would be a good way to connect to movers and shakers.

    Going into debt for that might, depending on the circles you are moving in, actually be a good investment.

    Paying it all off at once, is “problematic”.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Seriously? @realDonaldTrump hired Omarosa, Mike Flynn, Carter Page, George Papdopolous, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and Rob Porter. Now he wants @SenateDems to blindly accept his nominee for a LIFETIME appointment to the Supreme Court for Brett Kavanaugh? No. Release the documents— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) August 13, 2018

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    hueyplong says:

    Having been betrayed by NPR, my wife and I sometimes have our AM commute radio set to Old School (R&B) 105.3, the one place that doesn’t play “both sides” and instead talks as though the entire audience agrees Trump is a shitbird screwing the nation.

    They had Omarosa on during the campaign and were none too pleased with her. Did anyone here listen today to hear what they had to say about her?

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    Platonailedit says:

    Omarosa on MSNBC’s “Hardball”:

    Q: Do you have more tapes?

    "I have plenty.”

    Q: Would you share them with special counsel Robert Mueller?

    "If his office calls again, anything they want, I'll share.”

    Q: Think Trump should be impeached?

    “I do.”

    — Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) August 13, 2018

    Who among the group of parasites has uttered that last line?

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @retiredeng:
    Didn’t the British try that once?

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    lamh36 says:

    Ya’ll…I swear, I’m just sitting here waiting for news on Aretha Franklin, like she’s really my family…

    sitting here watching performances on YouTube… someone mentioned Nessun Dorma!!!

    Here’s the entire performance

    https://youtu.be/SVC9vzL0jUk

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    frosty fred says:

    @lamh36: I’ve been thinking the same thing, she does feel like family. Thanks for the link, I was planning to look for it.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Jay: Seems like a lot of dough for grease.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    as blues singers, Ackroyd and Belushi made good deadpan back up dancers, but I love Aretha’s performance in this scene.

    And I also would like four whole fried chickens. And a coke.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Ah! Logic meets emotion. I too am ecstatic that the snakes are turning on each other, with tapes no less! And I too hope this all works to bring down the orange menace.
    BUT… your first instinct is the right one. Security protocols MUST BE ENFORCED! If she was secretly recording, with an unsecured phone, in a secure area, then she needs to be held responsible! If we keep letting people off the hook for felony types of behavior, the types of behavior that would get the rest of us sent to prison, just because they got something incriminating on the bad guy, then it opens the door to this type of behavior being condoned in the future.
    Another thing to consider, what if other countries ARE hacking her phone, God knows what she inadvertently passed on to our enemies.

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    Jay says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    Prime seats for a premo game on short notice ain’t cheap. Comping somebody to a ball game and getting their ear for 3 hours isn’t really bribery or influence peddling if you are a Republican.

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    Jay says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    As others have pointed out, unless she copied and released Classified info, then all she broke were rules, not laws.

    And The Rules, were at no times being enforced by the White House.

    The White House is posing and yelling BS as ususal.

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    Platonailedit says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    You have an illegitimate traitor openly inviting the russians into his office while kicking out the US media, who constantly and openly hobnobs with those ‘enemies’, who uses an insecure phone 24×7 and yet she is the real threat to murka. Get real.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    And another thing… if Ms. Newman really wants to impress this white boy, then she should release all the tapes now! Not ‘shop’ them around to the media, searching for the ‘best deal’. Hell, what if FOX is the high bidder and they shelve them! She’s just using this “I got tapes!” thing to tantalize, push book sales, and keep her name in the papers. She’ll probably still be releasing tapes long after I’ve gone the way of the Dodo.
    And so what if she has that racist pig saying the ‘N’ word on tape? Like D.L. Hughley said on Maher the other night, that Trump is a racist asshole is going to come to a surprise to NO ONE. Tom Arnold and just about every stupid son-of-a-bitch that ever worked on the Apprentice has said the same thing. And Arnold keeps crowing about tapes too. If you really give a shit about America, release them, fuckhead!
    Not a hero. Just another grifter.

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    Scamp Dog says:

    @Amir Khalid: They didn’t just try, as I recall. And you do probably, I would imagine.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Platonailedit: It isn’t a race. No one is keeping score on who is worse with regard to NatSec. Is Ms. Newman as bad as Stephen Miller, Rob Porter, Corey Lewandowski, Gen. Kelly or any of the other traitors in the White House – no! But shouldn’t we hold everybody to a single standard when it comes to security?

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    retiredeng says:

    @Amir Khalid: I recon it was a little over 200 years too early.

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    Uncle Ebeneezer says:

    @rikyrah:

    Cubic and Zerconia.

    ROFL!! That is too damn funny…

    Don’t forget Sheriff David Clarke, aka “Angry Hootie” (coined by Rod of TBGWT podcast)

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    Ruckus says:

    @rikyrah:
    I agree with your take.
    One doesn’t have to like her or even respect her. But you have to admire her for her, well….stones. She’s not playing around, she’s not whimpering in the shadows, she’s playing the game professionally. And the game is get yours and watch your back. She’s got it covered.

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    Platonailedit says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    if Ms. Newman really wants to impress this white boy

    lulz, she will do jacksquat to fulfill your white boy fantasy.

    Random caps are always a tell. You might want to watch that.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:
    If all your professional life you’ve worked in security and done the right thing of course it would be jarring and difficult to justify her recording. But look at this situation closely. Recording everything might just be one of the few or only patriotic moves in this WH since Jan 20, 2017. Now if she does the right thing with them……….

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    TenguPhule says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    No one is keeping score on who is worse with regard to NatSec.

    All of em, Katie.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: Dude, you must chill! No one is calling her a hero.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    so I wonder if anybody has tapes of Omarosa in her more candid moments?

    Trump definitely has the White House women’s rest room wired for full surround sound.

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    catclub says:

    I think Wilbur Ross has so far skated under the stink put out by Pruitt and others.
    Will he continue to be ignored? He is most like Trump of the remaining cabinet.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @TenguPhule: That I’d believe.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Platonailedit: How did ML do random caps?

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @lamh36:

    I saw that when it happened and I was astounded.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    Ms. Newman has been riding on Trump’s coat tails for a long time now. She wrangled a cushy, high-paying job at the White House supposedly doing ‘community outreach’ (something I actually do). How’d that work out? She spent her time planning her wedding (on the tax payer dime), holding unauthorized wedding photo shoots at the White House, and God knows what else. She only turned on Trump AFTER (yes, I’m using caps cause I’m old and white) she got fired.
    This is the very same woman who said we would have to bow down before Trump. And we have her on tape.

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    Ruckus says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:
    That’s all well and good, but that’s not how it works in this WH. This is Alice in Wonderland except everyone has the really, really good acid. Up is down, down is everywhere and the rule of law was thrown out the door on Jan 20, 2017. Right now those recordings are even better than the Nixon tapes, because shitgibbon doesn’t have them. I’m not suggesting that everyone take the law into their own hands but damn I think it’s good that someone did. Maybe they turn out to be nothing, but I’d bet they are far more than that. You and I would have told her not to do it. But I’m glad we didn’t get a chance to tell her that.
    You may not agree but she may be one of the smarter ones in the building. She has no love lost for the shitgibbon, she seems to have no love lost for anyone but herself. She is of course going to want something for the recordings but that’s hardly strange in this case. What if what it takes to bring this to a head is someone who has no allegiance but to themselves. That’s got to be better than an allegiance to the shitgibbon or the republican party.

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    NorthLeft12 says:

    I am waiting for the clueless dunces who support and enable Deadbeat Donald to put things together and realize who the hell hired these incredibly incompetent imbeciles.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @NorthLeft12: Don’t hold your breath.

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    Barbara says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I watched the Siskel and Ebert review of the movie, with this sequence being the clip they showed, and when it was over they were laughing — how could anyone not love it? For me this was the highlight.

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    Platonailedit says:

    @Ruckus:

    The white boy has already hand waved away the other more real and more dangerous white traitors. The fake poutrage over her is laughable.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Ruckus: Did you say ‘patriotic’? No, the ‘patriotic’ thing to do would be to release all the tapes immediately. The ‘patriotic’ thing would be to quit your fancy, high paying job the very second you saw criminal malfeasance in the White House, and report it.
    I’m not buying into the re-adjustment of our moral compass, just to accommodate a single person or a single purpose.

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    Barbara says:

    @Platonailedit: Why would she want to impress any white boy?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Ms. Aretha is not good at lip syncing, which puts her in very good company. Meryl Streep, for one, can’t loop dialogue to save her life.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Ruckus: If you start to tally up the crimes committed in this administration, I doubt Ms. Newman would even make the list. And yes, I too think she is probably one of the more, if not the most, intelligent, articulate, attractive people Trump hired. Look at Scott Pruitt or Besty DeVos. And it is clear that Ms. Newman is incredibly shrewd. But all she is doing is ‘building her brand.’ And in the final analysis, I don’t think much, if anything, that she is doing will make a whit’s worth of difference.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It isn’t her best, but It is my favorite because it always makes me grin.

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    Jay says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    You need to print out rikyrah’s comments, place them in order, and read them over and over until you get a clue.

    Omarosa’s in it for Omarosa.

    She’s used Shitgibbon for the money, period.

    She didn’t join the Shitgibbon’s Admin to fuck other Americans over, she didn’t fuck other Americans over,

    And being a POC in Shitgibbons orbit, she knew exactly what she had to do to protect her self and continue to make money.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    And yes, I worked my butt off to get Obama elected twice, but I use RAnDOm cAPs, so I must be a rAcISt.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Mnemosyne: This is like the people who criticized her hat at Obama’s inauguration. She is Aretha, and she is beyond that.

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    scott alloway says:

    @MisterForkbeard: Truer words cannot be spoken. Don’t love ger. Don’t hate her. But she is getting a message out about the disaster that is the tRump administration.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Barbara: She worked pretty hard to impress Trump… so I’m told.

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    Barbara says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: It’s enough for me that Newman is making Maggie Haberman superfluous. Seriously, it’s no coincidence that the people best positioned to effectively yank Trump’s chain are the show biz journos like Michael Wolff and reality show grifters like Newman, whose relationship with ethics is strictly transactional. I bet James Comey dreams he had a recording of his meetings with Trump.

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    The Midnight Lurker says:

    @Barbara: Excellent point. But is it possible that after the smoke clears from this mess, that there were no heroes in this story? We keep rushing to laud these people. First is was Comey, then Michael Wolff, Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, Michael Cohen, etc. This week it’s Newman and Strzok. Enough.

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    Ruckus says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:
    It’s quite possible you are right it won’t mean a hill of beans. But…… And that’s a big, healthy, round, firm but, what if it does?
    I’d bet Mueller has tons on this crew, but as many have said how much of it can he use. IANAL and have no knowledge of the law here but what if these recordings can be used and back up the knowledge that he has but can’t use? Would that change your mind? I’m sure she is doing this for all the reasons everyone has said, including me, only for herself. Most people do most things for themselves and possibly a small group of friends family. That’s the way life works. Some do a lot more for people because they can, because it makes them feel good and because they were raised to believe in a selfless act is the best kind. But a good act doesn’t have to be selfless to be good. Hell she may do good in spite of all her intentions. It’s was an opportunity and she’s an opportunist.
    And that’s all I’m saying.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    We keep rushing to laud these people.

    Woah, woah, woah. No one here, IMO, is lauding any of these people. I have no regard for Omarosa, and I do not think anyone else here does either.
    I fucking hate James Comey and have since he was hired by Obama. He hasn’t done a god damned thing since to be any better, IMO. Michael Wolff is a star fucking opportunist. Strzok can go fuck himself as far as I am concerned.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Barbara:

    It’s enough for me that Newman is making Maggie Haberman superfluous.

    I wonder what MAGA Habs thinks she’s going to break in a book about this WH?

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    Barbara says:

    @The Midnight Lurker: I am not worried about whether anyone is a hero, just whether — metaphorically speaking — they are accurate sharpshooters.

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