Saturday Morning Open Thread: “Get Your Act Together. Stop Hating”

… “They tried to kill my child to shut her up,” Susan Bro told mourners last August. “Well, guess what? You just magnified her!”

Bro now spends her days in a cozy office at the law firm where her daughter worked as a paralegal. It’s the headquarters of the Heather Heyer Foundation. Near her desk is a sign with her daughter’s favorite motto — “If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.”

“I think that’s what we have with Heather’s legacy, is a call to action,” says Bro…

Portraits of Heyer hang on the walls, and there’s a collection of posthumous civil rights awards. Bro resists the notion that her daughter is some sort of symbol. She didn’t make speeches, or lead rallies, Bro says, but tried to persuade those around her to care more about inequality and social justice issues. Bro has taken up her cause.

“Not only will I speak and speak loudly and often,” she says, “I’m going to make sure that other people speak.”

She compares it to a relay race.

“They knocked the baton out of her hand. Well, I picked it up and I’m not only running with that baton but I’m passing off little batons to as many people as I can,” says Bro…

She says the blame belongs to “all of us — for allowing the hate to build up in the first place.”

Now her focus is on stopping hate.

“I’ve had to acknowledge that her death had meaning to the world,” says Bro. “I refuse to give her up without making something out of it — not wasting that precious life.”

The events last year hit a nerve in the community, she says, exposing racial tensions.

“The black community and the people of color in Charlottesville have been battling this for many years,” says Bro. “But a white girl dies and suddenly everybody goes, ‘Oh my God we’ve got a problem.’ “…

Timothy Bella, at the Atlantic, “Every Day Is August 12 in Charlottesville”:

Corey Long remembers reaching quickly for the aerosol can thrown forcefully in his direction. A man carrying a Confederate flag was yelling, and moving uncomfortably close to him. He began spraying the can, and used a lighter to turn it into a improvised flamethrower.

“I was just pretty much trying to back them up, but they just kept coming,” he said. The moment was immortalized in a photograph, which quickly spread across the internet and the world.

Nearly one year later, Long is reflecting on the altercation as he’s preparing steak, asparagus, and salad for a recent Thursday dinner at his Virginia home. He is still healing. Cooking keeps him distracted while talking about the events that unexpectedly turned him into a symbol against white supremacy…

The United States has not been the same since August 12, 2017. That day, a “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville followed a night in which white nationalists stormed through the University of Virginia’s campus wielding tiki torches and chanting hateful slogans. The day’s ugliness remains horrific: the death of Heather Heyer; a car maliciously plowing into dozens of people protesting against white supremacy; DeAndre Harris getting brutally beaten seemingly within an inch of his life. What took place in Charlottesville was not just the bloodiest battle in the fight over the future of Confederate monuments in America, but also a historically disheartening day in the nation’s long struggle to overcome hatred and racism. And Charlottesville, even after almost every official in power during “Unite the Right” has resigned or retired, continues to process the fallout.

“Every day has been August 12 in some ways,” says longtime Charlottesville resident and local clergy leader Reverend Seth Wispelwey of United Church of Christ. “Things are still pretty raw.”…

125 replies
  1. 1
    eclare says:

    Good morning, everybody.

  2. 2
    Raven says:

    I’m on my way to the boat. It’s really cloudy and rain in the forecast but they say they’re going to go. It’s really pretty here in North Kingston.

  3. 3
    JPL says:

    @Raven: Have fun!

  4. 4
    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning, Everyone 😄😄😄

  5. 5
    rikyrah says:

    Have a safe trip 😎

  6. 6
    NotMax says:


    Curious as to whether you carry the fish back with you on the plane.

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    Nicole says:

    Morning, all. I’m on my way from NYC to Lancaster to a funeral. Elderly relative and not unexpected , but still sad.

    Gadzooks, Amtrak trains are cold.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Well that’s something about the 29 year old airline ground employee who stole a Horizon Air turboprop last night, did a barrel roll, and eventually crashed it on a barely inhabited island to the southwest of Sea Tac in Puget Sound. Seattle Times link.

    Sort of a DB Cooper exploit, with a more pronounced ending.

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    Thoughtful David says:


    “rain in the forecast but they say they’re going to go”

    I know. I mean, what happens if it rains and the fish get wet?


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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

    @eclare: Good morning.

    @Raven: Enjoy!

    @Nicole: My condolences.

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    ThresherK says:

    @Raven: If you want a good seafood shack, try Champlin’s in Narragansett. (Unless, of course, you’re cooking some of your catch for dinner, which sounds like you.)

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    eclare says:

    @Elizabelle: OMG that is awful. So young.

  13. 13
    Elizabelle says:

    @Baud: Well, hello you.

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    lahke says:

    Spent 3 hours unpacking my parents’ china that was sent to me via FedEx. Expensive, but those folks know how to pack. I’ve favored them ever since I needed to ship a telescope and they had a telescope box.
    So does anyone in the Boston area need VAST amounts of bubble wrap?

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    Elizabelle says:

    @eclare: I know. I wonder what set him off.

    Amazing last hour. Flying around at sunset. A memorable exit.

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    ThresherK says:

    @lahke: You can always go out with a statement (and a bang) by trying to wrap the next Sovereign Citizen you see in a few layers of it. Lord knows their feelings need the protection.

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    JPL says:

    @Elizabelle: Earlier I listened to the audio of the Air Traffic controller that tried to keep the person calm, and help him land the plane. It was such a sad event, but who knew how easy it was to steal a plane. The person was clear that he did not want to harm anyone else though.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @eclare, @rikyrah:

    Good morning! ☕

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Elizabelle: If you gotta go…

  20. 20
    Baud says:

    @Elizabelle: Hi there. We seem to keep missing each other.

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    Raven says:

    @NotMax: this is strictly sport, just like Maui!

  22. 22
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Raven: Tight lines.

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    NotMax says:

    Posted in wrong thread, so repeating in this one.

    Economic jitters? You betcha.


    Russia warned the United States on Friday it would regard any U.S. move to curb the activities of its banks as a declaration of economic war which it would retaliate against, stepping up a war of words with Washington over spiraling sanctions.

    The warning, from Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, reflects Russian fears over the impact of new restrictions on its economy and assets, including the rouble which has lost nearly six per cent of its value this week on sanctions jitters.
    Medvedev said Moscow would take economic, political or other retaliatory measures against the United States if Washington targeted Russian banks. Source


    Turkey’s currency crisis spilled loudly on to the global stage Friday as other markets, including US stocks, took at hit from concern about financial contagion to other countries and banks.

    Turkey’s troubles, compounded by a new round of US sanctions, are unlikely to cause any kind of permanent hit to US markets or its economy, but it does offer two cautionary tales, one for President Donald Trump and the other for Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell.

    For Trump, it shows just how quickly his “America First” isolationist agenda can bite back. There are already ample signs that Trump’s aggressive anti-trade rhetoric is dampening global economic activity as trade wars heat up and even risk morphing into currency wars.

    Trump further frayed US-Turkish relations after the president announced via Twitter that he was doubling of tariffs on exports of steel and aluminum from the NATO ally, shoving the Turkish lira down 18% in one day alone to a record low against the US dollar. Source

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Raven: Good day on the water, Raven. Photos.

  25. 25
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Huh. Got tossed from the website by a “Database error” after submitting my comment @ #22 and was not able to get back to this thread.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Baud: The blog is not helping this morning. But: name stays. That’s good.

    Gonna go out and canvass today. A bit overcast and coolish. Luck with the weather, so far.

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    donnah says:

    Christopher Robin, Pooh, and friends are all finished! I’ll be taking the rug to a major rug hooking event next week, looking forward to seeing it in the exhibit. Wish me luck!

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    MagdaInBlack says:

    I’ve been getting that intermitantly since last night. Now it’s slow, or simply won’t load.

    Kind of how I’m feeling this morning 😋

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    JPL says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: You are back now. The blog has been a tad wonky for the last few hours.

  30. 30
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Heh, only in LA?:

    From the moment the Mountain hit the market late last month, courtesy of a real estate agent specializing in the highest of high-end properties, it has attracted curiosity, astonishment, skepticism and some hard questions about who exactly owns it, whether they are serious about selling and, if they aren’t, what their motivation might be.

    The only certain thing may be that nothing in this story is what it seems. The cast of characters associated with the property down the years has included the shah of Iran, Brad Pitt, a Cuban American philanthropist convicted and jailed for running a property scam, and the feuding heirs and trustees of the founder of Herbalife, the global wellness promotion behemoth that has itself been accused of perpetrating scams on its customers.

    On top of that, the Mountain has been at the center of a never-ending lawsuit whose stultifying complexities and ever-wandering trajectory from party to party and from court to court rival the infamous Jarndyce v Jarndyce case from Dickens’s Bleak House. A major character in the story is in fact called Charles Dickens, or Chip Dickens, as he prefers to be known, an Atlanta businessman who came to Los Angeles more than a decade ago to pull off the ultimate real estate deal, only to pile up enough regrets for a jukebox’s worth of hard-luck country songs.

    Research by the Guardian suggests the property may not be eligible for sale at all.

    The article ends appropriately enough with

    The Guardian attempted to reach each of the parties to the lawsuit, but received no reply.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @donnah: Beautiful work. It will be popular.

  32. 32
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MagdaInBlack: I noticed that too.

    @JPL: Damn right I’m back. You people don’t get rid of me that easily.

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    NotMax says:

    Something lighter to kick off a weekend.

    Flat Earthers can get a bad rap as the cliche conspiracy theorists. They’re the reference point, the water mark of believing stuff that is, to be polite, a little out there.

    They’re an easy target and they know it. This weekend at the first ever International Flat Earth Conference in Edmonton, Alberta, the topic of how people viewed flat earthers was spoken about frequently. It’s a sore spot for the group.

    So, after hearing how fed up they were at having their ideas shat upon all the time, VICE decided to give the Flat Earthers some time to speak about conspiracies they think are stupid.… Source

    And yes, blog’s page loading is currently slower than molasses on Pluto.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @donnah: Nice.

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    Baud says:

    Is our pundits learning?

    Maher went on to say that Ingraham “is not a good person,” and shot down one of his panelists who suggested that this white nationalist mindset had to do with “economics.”

    “I don’t think it is an economic argument. I really don’t,” argued Maher. “Last week, I did a whole thing about how the Russia issue for Republicans—about how they’re so willing to throw in with Russia—it’s really racial, because Russia is one of the last countries in the world to say, ‘We’re white and we’re proud and we’re staying that way.’ I think ‘economic’ is the fig leaf. I think they look at TV and say, ‘Why is Telemundo on my TV? Why is Crazy Rich Asians on my TV?’”

  36. 36
    Amir Khalid says:

    Nym and email disappear if you don’t comment for a while.

  37. 37
    HinTN says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Had that when I first attempted to get here this AM. Now the site is really slow…

    Also too, good morning all and fine fishing to Raven.

  38. 38
    MagdaInBlack says:

    I stumbled upon a site: : that really tears up Ms DeVoss summer home. I enjoyed it, I’m petty that way.
    I am unable to post the address, but you’re all good googlers.
    The whole site is pretty entertaining, if you’re a mcmansion hater like me, or at all interested in architectural fail.

  39. 39
    Elizabelle says:

    @Amir Khalid: That be true.

    Ciao for now. Just getting a few scattered raindrops …

  40. 40
    Betty Cracker says:

    The passive voice in the tweets above infuriates me:

    USA Today: Heyer’s mother reflects on the loss of her daughter, who was hit by a car…

    NPR: One year ago, a car rammed into counter-protesters

    It wasn’t the fucking car. It was a goddamned Nazi. I can understand the reluctance to say his name since he probably gets off on the fame. But I wish the tweets would make it clear that Heyer as murdered by white supremacist scum.

  41. 41
    The Midnight Lurker says:

    Pouring rain here in North Texas. Getting out my galoshes to go canvass in an couple of hours. People will be indoors today – target rich environment. Oh, hell… why do I bother posting this. Half you people are probably hoping I’ll drown. VOTE THE BUMS OUT IN NOVEMBER!!!!

  42. 42
    Kayla Rudbek says:

    Good morning fellow jackals! I’m trying to decide whether to go lap swimming or whether I should plunge into starting to clean out the basement and throw out water-damaged books. We have far too many books for the size of this townhouse, so I’m going to have to donate a bunch to the local library.

    I have lived through the great shift from cassette tapes to CDs to mp3, so I am a bit hesitant about converting the entire library to ebooks. However we’re not getting any younger and moving physical books is tough, and we’re not planning on moving to a larger house any time in the near future. I figure that I will start the donation pile with books that I can readily get at the library or by ebook.

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    debbie says:


    Taling to the flight controller, the guy acknowledged he had a few screws loose.

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    Mary G says:

    @donnah: So beautiful! That is one lucky library. Thanks for letting us see it in progress.

  45. 45
    MomSense says:

    @The Midnight Lurker:

    Don’t forget to hydrate!!

  46. 46
    Matt McIrvin says:

    @NotMax: I get a bit nervous about mainstream-media portrayals of flat-earthers as harmless kooks: with the ones online, if you poke around the stuff they post/link/retweet it usually doesn’t take long to get to the Nazi/antisemitic shit.

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    debbie says:


    Love it! Please remind me what the size is.

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    donnah says:

    @Mary G:

    Thanks, Mary G and all. I usually start and complete a rug in a much shorter timeframe, like a few months. But a busy schedule kept me from working on it as often as usual, so it took a year to finish.

    After the show, it goes with me on my teaching tour, then off to our local library, donated in my dad’s name. I don’t know what my next project will be yet, but it’s always fun to start a new one.

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    debbie says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    It’s the verb more than the passive tense. Murder, not hit. “Was murdered by car” works for me.

    ETA: I’m beginning to believe the bad in Twitter outweighs the good.

  50. 50
    MomSense says:


    That is so beautiful. It gives me all the feels.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:


    Beautiful! It will be an inspiration at the library.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @donnah: oh, that is so beautiful. I’m a little teary looking at it! Altho maybe it’s just lack of sleep – woke up at oh-dark-forty to the sound of Watson gently upchucking at the foot of the bed. Gonna go riding in the Hundred-Acre Wood now that I’m up.

  53. 53
    debbie says:

    Nothing’s fiercer than an angry mother, but I’m not sure she’ll make much of a dent. NPR also interviewed Jason Kessler last week. How do you fight against an asshole who insists white supremacy is no different than civil rights?

  54. 54
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MagdaInBlack: My parents nondescript middle class ranch home on a nice sized lot with beautiful mature trees was torn down about 30 seconds after the papers were signed and the most gawdawful monstrosity of modern architecture was raised in it’s place with over twice the footprint, no back yard, and nary a tree to be seen. We had been watching those monuments to the nouveau riche taking over their neighborhood like weeds for about a decade so it was not surprising, but still disgusting..

  55. 55
    Kay says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    I agree with the idea to not focus on the shooter in murder/suicide juvenile cases, because I think the fame might be appealing to other kids who are extraordinarily messed up, but partly that’s because of the suicide part. There won’t be trials in those cases.

    But THIS one I think they should focus on the criminal charges. If the federal case goes forward the “hate” aspect will be front and center.

    A state trial will likely be held for a man accused in a deadly car attack on protesters opposing a white nationalist rally in Virginia before he’s tried on federal hate crime charges that carry a possible death penalty.
    In a joint motion filed Thursday, federal prosecutors and 21-year-old James Alex Fields Jr.’s defense attorneys said they need time to prepare for the “complex” federal case.

  56. 56
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debbie: There are many ways but I won’t say, because if I do I will be accused of incitement to murder.

  57. 57
    donnah says:


    Debbie, the rug measures 30” by 43”

    I hope it also gets a warm reception at the rug show!

  58. 58
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Matt McIrvin:

    “Nowadays you can’t be close-minded to anything. I mean there is some stuff that I think is controlled. There is the Flat Earth Society that is a total psy-op, none of us really subscribe to that kind of stuff. I can’t say off hand anything I think is completely stupid. There is all kind of weird theories I haven’t looked into like hollow earth, convex earth—just stuff I don’t look into. I think there could be a hole in the centre of the earth, in the north pole, no one can go there freely so how are we going to know it, right?

    I think there is a lot to look into. Like aliens, I don’t think they are anything like they say they are. I don’t believe that they are aliens from outer space, I believe they’re from other parts of earth or interdimensional beings. End of the day though, I can’t say that anything I say that anything specifically is dumb because I don’t want to come off as judgmental. “

    The horror, to be judgemental.

  59. 59
    MomSense says:

    I spent four hours cleaning my kitchen last night. It all started when I noticed some crumbs and grease in that stupid drawer that pulls out from under the oven on the stove. Next thing I know I’m half inside the upper corner cupboard. I do clean my kitchen regularly – every GD day and yet it was sooo gross.

    Anyway it’s now off limits forever. We are just going to do takeout from now on.

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    debbie says:


    Wow! It is totally perfect for a library!

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    OldDave says:

    @donnah: Beautiful. Just beautiful.

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    WereBear says:

    Lately my weekends need to be totally unplugged from obligations — it really seems to help. Don’t know if I can manage that now — my newsletter needs writing, my taxes need wrapping up, and I’m still laboring on the print version of my book because there ain’t no easy way, durn it.

    Having standards. Something Republicans should look at again…

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    chris says:

    @MagdaInBlack: Thanks, that site is hilarious. Here’s another one for you : Terrible real estate agent photos

  66. 66
    HRA says:

    Test gd it

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    rikyrah says:

    David Frum (@davidfrum) Tweeted:
    Anybody else think it’s strange that the president is reduced to tweeting cable TV show hosts as anti-collusion character witnesses? No former intel directors, no Russia experts, nobody eminent in national security at all – certainly nobody across aisle. The silence is eloquent.

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    rikyrah says:

    That is beautiful. After you exhibit it, are you thinking about selling it?

  69. 69
    chris says:


    NPR also interviewed Jason Kessler last week.

    This is like an advanced study in how not to do an interview. If you’re not going to ask follow ups, just let the guy run his take as an op-ed. Dave Weigel

    Good point, Dave. But Dave’s not talking about the Kessler interview, he’s pointing out this NYMAG horror with Steve Bannon. It’s beyond awful, I couldn’t do more than skim.

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    Heidi Mom says:

    @donnah: So lovely! It makes me want to read the Winnie the Pooh stories, which I’ve never done.

  71. 71
    MagdaInBlack says:

    “Teardowns” …… Drop 3-5 hundred k for the house and lot, knock it down, drop 7 hundred k on the monstrosity. It just disgusts me.
    I had forgotten about that site. Thank you.

    There should also be one (and probably is ) for ” please be aware of the background in your ‘hot stud trolling” photos. (Yes, a friend and I amuse ourselves reading Craigslist singles ads)

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @debbie: You don’t. You put his head on a pike and move on.

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    JPL says:

    @donnah: It is beautiful, and I’m sure the library will appreciate it.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Didn’t npr give platform for some racist nazi asshole just this week to spew his bigoted venom unchallenged? Now the hypocrites are shedding crocodile tears over a murder by the same nazis?

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    donnah says:


    I’m donating it to our newly renovated library downtown. :-)

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    MomSense says:


    My dad had a beautiful federal – unspoiled with original 9 over 6 windows – the works. It had a beautiful barn and was set so perfectly on the land. Someone with more money than sense bought it and added a bunch of garish bullshit onto it. I drove by it once and looked in horror at it. The few times I have gone past it since, I avoid looking at it.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @donnah: Beautiful work!

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    BellyCat says:

    @donnah: Serious WOW!

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    Aleta says:

    @donnah: Incredible art; incredibly generous. I had just been thinking it would be nice if it could travel as an exhibit to various libraries. My cousin makes miniature seascapes (for private clients) that usually tour to libraries for a year or so before they are taken home.

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    Aleta says:

    @MomSense: A great aunt had a huge historic Victorian on the NJ shore which she filled with friends and relatives all summer. Many prospective buyers, but it was sold at a reduced price to the one who promised they would not tear it down. They tore it down immediately.

  81. 81
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I don’t know the Maine Beacon, but…. good

    As the pressure on her to oppose Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh intensifies, Senator Susan Collins’ approval rating has started to slip. The senator, who had an approval rating of 56 percent in a Morning Consult poll in April, and much higher in previous surveys, now has an approval rating of just 49 percent, according to a recent poll from Suffolk University, with a larger percentage of Mainers unsure about whether they approve of her job performance.

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    Jay says:

    C&L’s reporting that Rep. Collin’s has dropped his campaign.

  83. 83
    sukabi says:

    @Jay: yep. Guess “spending time with your lawyers” is the new “time with the family”.

    He went from “I’m not talking about it, and still running” to “concentrating on my legal defense” rather quickly…it almost makes you think there’s more than what’s out publicly. 😝

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Who else would vouch for him? I’m as appalled as you but I can’t say I’m surprised at all.

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    hueyplong says:

    I know there are site problems but, man, I’d like a separate thread on which to dance on Rep. Collins’ career grave.

    Especially schadenfreudelicious coming a mere 3 days after he declared that he’s absolutely running for reelection.

    Best I can tell, he’s just “suspending” for now because there is an issue as to whether the GOP can put another name forward at this point on the calendar.

    Thoughts and prayers, motherfucker.

  86. 86
    Jay says:


    Yup, there’s another two ReThug Senators in Texas who’s probably gonna spend time in the barrel over the same insider trades.

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    A Ghost To Most says:


    Thoughts and prayers, motherfucker[s].

    All damn day.

  88. 88
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @eclare: “Good morning, everybody.”

    Rikyrah says “Off my corner, ho!”

    Steve in the ATL says “The hell you doing you up that early on a Saturday?”

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    Jay says:


    Better than same effect, either way, ReThugs getting another nym on the ballot, or Collins being “stuck”, this close to the midterms, either Campaign is wounded badly.

    Taint sticks.

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    Jay says:

    And now an Oakie from Miscokie,

    “OUCH!!! … OKLAHOMA REP. MARKWAYNE MULLIN (R) filed his financial disclosure form yesterday, revealing that he took a massive loss on Innate Immunotherapeutics stock — the same stock that got REP. CHRIS COLLINS (R-N.Y.) in trouble. Mullin bought between $100,000 and $250,000 of stock in January. It’s now worth between $1,000 and $15,000. Mullin also just settled an ethics case, in which he had to repay $40,000 to a company he was once affiliated with.”

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    Platonailedit says:

    Hacking the US mid-terms? It’s child’s play.

    Bianca Lewis, 11, has many hobbies. She likes Barbie, video games, fencing, singing… and hacking the infrastructure behind the world’s most powerful democracy.

    “I’m going to try and change the votes for Donald Trump,” she tells me.

    “I’m going to try to give him less votes. Maybe even delete him off of the whole thing.”

    Hacking the real websites would be illegal. So instead, Ms Sell’s team created 13 sites that mimicked the real websites, gaping vulnerabilities and all, for 13 so-called “battleground” states – parts of the country where the vote is expected to be tight.

    Over the course of a day, 39 kids aged between 8 and 17 took the challenge – 35 of them succeeded in bypassing the trivial security. Pranks ensued. At one time the site told us 12 billion votes had been cast. Later, we were told that candidate “Bob Da Builder” was the victor.

    The first competitor to break in was 11-year-old Audrey Jones. It took her 10 minutes.

    “The bugs in the code makes us [able] to do whatever we want,” she tells me.

    “We call somebody our own name if we want to, make it look like we won the election!”

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Elizabelle: The mechanic who took the Horizon plane for a joy ride did a loop, not a barrel roll.

  93. 93
    opiejeanne says:

    @Elizabelle: Yes, he set the whole damned island on fire, what a glorious ending. Sorry, cranky this morning.

    It’s not a big place, only a dozen cabins, and they still don’t know if anyone else died.

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    MomSense says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    It’s an online publication put out by the Maine People’s Alliance (disclaimer: I’ve been a member forever). We do grassroots organizing on health care, immigration, racial justice, housing, and all the other good things.

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    A Ghost To Most says:


    And now an Oakie from Miscokie,

    Muskogee, or is he a cokehead?

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    JPL says:

    @opiejeanne: Have you heard anything else about him. From the tapes his name appears to be Rick or Rich and he mentioned that he was white. The air traffic controller did an amazing job, although I’m sure he would prefer a different outcome.

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    JPL says:

    @opiejeanne: I hadn’t heard that, and let us hope not.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    The more I read of the conversation between him and air traffic control, the more he sounds like someone with bipolar disorder in the throes of a manic episode. IIRC, people with untreated bipolar disorder are more likely to commit suicide during a manic phase, because they have the energy to do it and the mania makes them impulsive. Very sad.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @opiejeanne: still not impressed. Wake me up when a mechanic does an Immelmann turn.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @opiejeanne: he set the whole damned island on fire

    Damn, I hadn’t heard that part

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    Jay says:


    King5 news, an hour ago has footage of the crash site. Only the crash site was set on fire and County Fire has the fire out with only shome hot spots remaining.

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    Shana says:

    @lahke: Try a preschool. Kidding, kind of.

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    Shana says:

    @NotMax: Hey, how did it go with your mom’s Kindle? That was you wasn’t it?

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    Shana says:

    @MomSense: And no laundry, EVER. Right?

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    Emma says:

    @donnah: Beautiful!

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    James E Powell says:


    Question is, what if he just rides it out through election day? What are the chances he loses? Republican voters have already shown that they are completely comfortable with criminals, so long as they hate the right people.

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    Fair Economist says:

    @donnah: Fantastic job, donnah!

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    hueyplong says:

    @James E Powell: I imagine your scenario is possible.

    More things will happen between now and election day, and we might reasonably hope that the trend will be in our direction.

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    NotMax says:


    Thanks for asking. Better than could have been expected. In fact, swimmingly. She’s now a believer.

    Final test was when she drove me to JFK for the flight home and, halfway there, mentioned she was sorry she didn’t remember to bring it along as she was planning to stop someplace for breakfast on her way back and could have used it there.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:


    No, the whole damned island is not on fire.
    Video here.

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    Jay says:

    @James E Powell:

    Cook had NY-27 at +11 for Collins, just before his arrest.

    Booman’s done the math and a scandal, any scandal averages -12 for the Campaign.

    So Cook’s next update will probable change the race to a toss up.

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    Kathleen says:

    @donnah: That is exquisite and evokes so much love an warmth. It’s a beautiful gift not only to the library but much needed lift to the ethers!

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    WaterGirl says:

    @donnah: I teared up just now when I saw the finished product. Just lovely! Amazing, really.

    You are a better person than me. If I created something that beautiful, I doubt I could let it go. Bless the artists who are able to share their wonderful work with the world.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Baud: Maher has been on fire the past two weeks (I only watch when I like his guests). Did you see guest historian/author Nancy MacLean last week? The discussion about the material in her latest book was chilling.

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    Kathleen says:

    @MomSense: Cincinnati is lovely this time of year just in case you have the energy to help a fellow Juicer out!

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    Ruckus says:

    There was a place like this in Topanga as well, not quite as big or flashy but similar stories were told about it and all you could see was a shitty old gate at the base. I thought it might be this place your story was about but no.
    There are more than just the one crazy story in LA.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Matt McIrvin:
    You’d have to figure that if you believe in a flat earth in the 21st century you probably really want to go back maybe 1500-1800 yrs with everything. And still keep the stuff you like of course. But the first thing is that there would be no people that don’t look like you. That’s a first principle here. Flat earth is just another way to say it. Like knowing the earth is not flat, we use the word, racist.

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    MomSense says:


    Oh god I moved on to the bathroom today. If I ever meet the man (and I’m sure it is a man) who started the practice of putting the baseboard heater on the wall next to the toilet, I may do things that get me sent to The Hague.

    Also WTF with the design of the thing with the handle that brings water to the toilet. It is impossible to clean and it should either be invisible and impervious to odor or a fucking smooth surface that can be cleaned without extraordinary measures. I look like a side show circus act trying to get all in that space behind the toilet. It’s not a nice place to be.

    If anyone IRL asks me what I’ve done today I’m going to tell them hot contortionist yoga.

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    donnah says:

    Thank you all for your kind comments. I make a lot of hooked rugs; it’s my passion and my vocation. I love making hooked rugs that have special messages and meanings. I’ve hooked rugs about Alzheimers, about elephants becoming extinct, about a World War One veteran…whatever strikes a chord in me.

    I also hook rugs that are fun, something different like Steampunk-themed rugs, portraits of my sons, a portrait of my mom holding me when I was a baby. I’m lucky to be an artist, and I enjoy using my talent in a medium that most people know nothing about.

    Thanks again everyone!

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Wow, that is superb.

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    chris says:

    @MomSense: In my dream house the bathroom is a single piece of moulded fibreglass lifted into the building with a crane. Yacht quality finish and nonskid floor; drain in the middle and a built in power washer. Bidet is extra.

    Don’t get me started on the guy who designed the basic toilet with all its nooks and crannies. Grr.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @MomSense: Sending you a plane ticket to Illinois. What season of the year would you like to come? :-)

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @Jay: Hard choice for the Economically Anxious Voter I would say, the incumbent is involved in a massive stock fraud, but the challenger is a liberal who supports radical stuff like Telamunda.being allowed on the TV.

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    SWMBO says:

    @MomSense: I think it was the 25th anniversary show of Laugh In that they asked Ruth Buzzi what she had done in the intervening years. “Cleaning toilets.” She said she would go into a bathroom and see how dirty it was and she was afraid that the next person to come in would recognize her. She didn’t want anyone to think she would leave it like that so she would clean it. Twenty five years of cleaning toilets.

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    oaguabonita says:

    @Betty Cracker: I opened this comment thread to say what you said. Now no need.

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