Colorado billboard replaces "O" in GOP with Soviet hammer and sickle https://t.co/z3xObb9mSf pic.twitter.com/wvjN2gUueb
— The Hill (@thehill) July 28, 2018
In Grand Junction – hoping it spreads throughout the state quickly
The billboard, located in Grand Junction, was created and put up by liberal blogger and author Anne Landman, local paper The Daily Sentinel reported Friday.
Landman told the newspaper that she put up the billboard after President Trump’s widely criticized press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin, during which the president refused to criticize Russia and sided with Putin’s denials of election interference.
Open thread
rikyrah
Yes…that should go National.???
Mnemosyne
Nice job! ?
I’m sitting in a novel writing workshop waiting for the afternoon session to start. My outline is going to be up for critique soon.
donnah
Stand up, fire back, speak up, protest, and most of all, get out the vote.
I’d love to see some news people interview US, the Democrats who loathe Trump and the Republicans. Not a “round table” discussion, not a back-and-forth panel, just Democrats. Ask us about health care, immigration, womens’ rights, human rights, and the state of the country where WE live. Let us be heard for once.
Fuck the whiny Trumpsters.
TaMara (HFG)
It wasn’t that expensive either.
Miss Bianca
In *Grand Junction*? Jesus Chicken-Fried Christ, who *is* this woman? I’ve got to check out her blog!
Hey, no *wonder* Scott Tipton has suddenly shown an interest in my opinion! I wonder if his internal polling has got him looking like he’s in trouble in CO-3!
@Mnemosyne: Good luck! Was the outline the point of the workshop, or was this something you had to produce outside of class?
Dorothy A. Winsor
Mnem, always a tense moment. There’s a writers workshop at the public library here. I’m going to try it as soon as I get myself organized and my writer brain arrives from Iowa where it’s apparently been lingering.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
Reposting from below:
From the late night thread last night, I still don’t understand how I’d run out of food in two weeks if I was the last person on Earth, as one commenter claimed
Major Major Major Major
Rose Twitter (Democratic Socialists of America types) are very mad at this sign, because it just shows that the unserious Russiagate neoliberals don’t understand that modern Russia represents the failures of capitalism and has nothing to do with Soviet iconography.
MattF
I’m starting to think that Trump should get that military parade down Pennsylvania Ave. that he wants so badly. Endless opportunities for snark.
raven
Bob Mueller
Redshift
I heard the recently departed chair of the Virginia GOP on a local NPR news and interview show a couple of days ago. Apparently, the best he’s got is “Democrats have no message, they just call us racists.” Man, I hope they actually believe that.
This from a guy who everyone thinks resigned because Nazi sympathizer Corey Stewart won the primary for Senate, and he didn’t want to be in charge when he gets shellacked by Tim Kaine. In the interview, he made mealy-mouthed noises about the direction of the party, but is too much of a careerist wimp to actually criticize Stewart.
zhena gogolia
@Major Major Major Major:
Do they know like two facts about the biography of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin?
zhena gogolia
@raven:
Makes me want to cry.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: Glad to see they are keeping their eyes on the prize.
KSinMA
Excellent. More, please!
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
What the DSA-types don’t understand is that this is pure trolling and not meant to be a master’s thesis or a doctoral dissertation on the failure of liberalizing Russia.
For a long time the Republicans were the party of Red Dawn and Ronald Reagan. It’s only fair to flip the script and red bait them into oblivion. Also, I think that kind of stuff resonates with low-info voters, imo.
Yarrow
Mad Dog PAC has been putting those up in various places. If you’d like a t-shirt, mug or whatever with the same logo you can buy it here.
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: some of these folks get off on finding ways to think they’re better than you. Although this of course describes many groups.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
anger is righteous and makes them interesting. Opinions vary.
Reminds me of when Letterman hosted the Oscars, which was almost as bad as people said, but it did include his introduction of Sarandon and Tim Robbins: “Hang on to your hats, kids, I’m sure they’re pissed off about something.” ETA: And that was in 1995.
qwerty42
Claude Taylor’s MaddogPac has been doing this sort of thing
https://maddogpac.com/products/gop-treason-pack
Miss Bianca
@Major Major Major Major: You know, every time I read about these Rose Twitter hosers, it strikes me more and more forcibly just how annoying my parents must have found me in my college years.
Betty Cracker
On our recent trip to Savannah, we passed an “Impeach Trump” billboard and another that said “The NRA is a terrorist organization.” Was happy to see both.
JMG
Colorado also had the genius who put up a portrait of Putin where Trump’s portrait is supposed to go in the state capitol building. Well played.
Yarrow
@Betty Cracker: Pretty sure both of those were put up by Mad Dog PAC. You can see their map of their billboards if you scroll down on their home page. You can donate to support more inf you want.
Major Major Major Major
@Miss Bianca: basically.
West of the Rockies
Excellent billboard! The GOP was the self-proclaimed adult national security party for decades…. Nah, they’re just grifting, traitorous money-pigs.
lgerard
Is this another thing I have to be concerned about?
Schrödinger’s Medievalisms
debbie
That needs to be put on every piece of campaign literature and website put out by the Democrats. I’d also like to see it on t-shirts!
Yarrow
@debbie: It IS on t-shirts. You can buy one. See the Mad Dog PAC links in this thread.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
And what annoys me about them is that they put so much energy into fighting people who might be receptive to their ideas and honestly aren’t that far apart from them ideologically. I mean, Christ, the Republicans certainly aren’t going to listen to them.
debbie
@Major Major Major Major:
Good. They need to realize that socialism has gone as far awry as capitalism. Theories are lovely, but they seem to be non-existent.
Steve in the ATL
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: food or no food, going clubbing would totally suck
Major Major Major Major
@Steve in the ATL: are you kidding? The DJ would only play songs you liked and nobody would judge your dancing!
p.a.
The double eagle would be more accurate, I guess, (has Puts brought that back?) but nowhere near as recognizable.
Major Major Major Major
Public service announcement: book recommendation thread coming at the top of the hour
Baud
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Is their whole movement based on the belief that white working class Republicans are primed for the taking? I don’t agree with them, but it explains their thinking.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: That sounds like someone is misremembering the advice to have two weeks of food in case of disaster. The idea is that it could take that long to get the supply chains reestablished to feed an entire city. (Or longer; I’ve seen recommendations everywhere from 4-12 weeks in hurricane zones recently. But two weeks used to be the rule of thumb for personal disaster planning.)
debbie
@raven:
Mueller is impossibiy far superior to Trump et al. I’m not pro-military, but it does seem to be what makes people better. Another inner conflict I’ll never be able to resolve.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Baud: God, Baud. I wish I could vote for you. You always say things that are right on.
Ruckus
@West of the Rockies:
You left out self-centered. And bigoted.
debbie
@Yarrow:
Yes, bookmarked. Now I have to get brave enough to give the t-shirt and mug to my Trumpie brothers (2 of 3).
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@debbie:
Define socialism.
Schlemazel
@debbie:
It makes some people much better. My BiL was given a choice at 17, prison or the Corp. He chose the Marines & they gave him discipline & a sense of worth that made him a much better person. OTOH, the worst goldbricks and malingerers I have ever met were trained up in the service. I think a lot depends on the person. Mueller is a mench
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: briefly, the workers should control the means of production.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Baud:
That’s probably it. I wish it were that easy. It all comes back to white supremacy. The Roosevelt coalition fell apart in the 60s and 70s partly because the Democrats had been attempting to be more inclusive and end the worst abuses of American apartheid. You can’t advocate economic justice without also battling racism and other prejudices. They’re intertwined.
schrodingers_cat
@Major Major Major Major: Isn’t that communism?
p.a.
Any comments by G&T or Goldman today? I’m having real f-ups accessing site from RI. Using fios, Vz 4g, chrome, safari, android, ipad. Even downloaded firefox. All suck. Timeouts, router not responding, not connected to internet… No report I can find of Vz issue. A few issues other sites, but nothing like here.
Baud
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Thank you. I wish you still lived in Iowa. It’ll be important with every Dem in the country running in 2020.
Major Major Major Major
@schrodingers_cat: it’s OG socialism, which is why “democratic socialists” decided to prepend “democratic,” to mean “we want social welfare programs in a well-regulated capitalist democracy.”
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
Quite apart from whether it’s produces the best society, I haven’t a clue how you even implement such a system.
Yarrow
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: It depends how you end up the last person on earth. Nuclear war? Massive global fire? Everyone else disappears “Left Behind” style? Rapidly spreading disease that kills everyone in days and you’re the only one immune? Disease that takes a year to kill everyone but still your the only one immune? Global flood a la Noah?
Some of those mean you’re just sitting there like in that show “Last Man on Earth” with all the food, gas, clothing, whatever. In some other situations the food isn’t accessible or usable.
Ruckus
@debbie:
It’s not the experience, it’s learning from the experience, looking at the why and how, not just the time spent.
A lot of people get there without the military experience and a lot of people don’t get there with it. Read the 3rd and 4th graph in raven’s comment, he was already there, his fellow college graduate and Marine was a role model before he joined. He learned long before then, what he got from the military was the reenforcement that he had learned reasonably. And he’s carried that with him his entire life.
I’m not saying a person can’t get that from the military but I’m also saying that a person won’t necessarily get that from the military. I met a lot of “leaders” in the military, but I met only two that I would follow anywhere without question. One was one of 5 ship’s captain on the destroyer I served on and one was a Marine Staff Sargent that I worked for a short time in the shore patrol. I met other people I respected, some a lot, but those were the only two real leaders.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: That description doesn’t really distinguish Democratic Socialists from your regular Dem.
raptusregaliter
Maggie Haberman has just vomited out one of the most sycophantic puff pieces about Jared and Ivanka in FTFNYT. Did you know they are called Javanka? And that they are both on top of the world again? Maggie has all the butt-smooching details if you can stomach it.
schrodingers_cat
@Major Major Major Major: OG? Orange Gnome?
Major Major Major Major
@schrodingers_cat: the OG definition of OG was Original Gangster but now it just means original.
@Baud: oh, you noticed? They haven’t, and some have their identity pretty tied up in there being a difference.
Yarrow
@raptusregaliter: Not getting out of the boat, but they’re on top of the world again? Does that mean getting a top floor cell in the prison they’ll be sent to?
Also, if MAGA Habs feels it’s necessary to write a puff piece on them then things are definitely not going well.
And a reminder that MAGA Habs has longstanding connections to both Trump and Kushner families.
Ruckus
@p.a.:
Try turning off your modem, leave it off for 5-10 seconds and turn it back on. That usually resets it. I’ve had failing modems and WiFi components which of course screws up your internet access.
Schlemazel
@Ruckus:
You said it so much better than I did, thanks
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
That sounds more like Marxism. There are many socialist schools of thought. What is commonly referred to as socialism in mainstream discourse is actually just “social democracy”, where the basic capitalist economic system is retained but heavily regulated to reign in the worst impulses of capitalism, and democratic mandate is used to implement economic equality. Government-owned entities are also common, such as public utilities as well as social welfare programs to provide for those less fortunate. Some form of government-funded healthcare often exists as well.
Additionally, there is something called “market socialism” (watch wingers’ heads spin).
From wiki:
Miss Bianca
@debbie: You know, I bet a “history of socialism” class would get a *lot* of students…and they might even learn something! ; )
rikyrah
b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) Tweeted:
oh just a light saturday read about how georgia’s election infrastructure is extremely vulnerable to attack and that the secretary of state, now GOP gubernatorial nominee, is actively hostile to securing it. https://t.co/5MUm442nux https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1023311117286891520?s=17
Dorothy A. Winsor
Have I told BJ yet that someone here at the Old Folks Farm told me a racist joke yesterday? And a woman told me that all our troubles started when prayer was removed from the public schools? Sweet cartwheeling Jesus. These people are incredibly privileged, and it seems to make some of them crazy. It’s not like I come from a socialist CA paradise either. I moved here from Iowa.
I’ve also met some people I’d consider normal, so I’m resisting generalizing, but holy cow. No one’s told me a racist joke in 20 years. They’ve at least been socially aware enough to be hypocritical, and that is a good thing.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Neither did the Soviet Union.
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: like I said above, that’s the very original definition of socialism, created by Marx. Many socialists today, especially outside of the US, use that definition.
ETA depending on who you ask, “democratic socialism” is either achieving collective ownership through democratic means, or another phrase for social democracy.
JMG
@Yarrow: Haberman’s story may have been written to maintain communication with Javanka AFTER some other Times story she knows is coming and they don’t. Beat sweeteners are pathetic excuses for journalism, but they are the Washington media’s stock in trade. Remember how upset Haberman was when Hope Hicks left? She’s looking out for her sources come what may. Perhaps she figures Javanka will rat Dad out for her big post-Trump book, the way Kissinger did Nixon for “The Final Days.”
schrodingers_cat
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Two words: Run away.
Ruckus
@Schlemazel:
I’ve known a few fellas that were in the jail or military conundrum and chose wisely to serve in the military. Many of them got a perspective that they otherwise wouldn’t have gotten. I also saw a lot of wide eyed guys in boot camp, whose seeming exposure to the world was shut up and eat your dinner or something along that direction. The world is a much different and bigger place than many people can or are willing to admit. The military at least gives one the option to see that if they want to. One of my least favorite things was going on liberty in different ports with people who would come back and complain that this wasn’t like home, that no one spoke english or that the food sucked. A closed mind learns nothing.
Barbara
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Regardless of age, I always make it clear that I don’t share their racist views. It’s amazing how well that works in keeping someone from telling anymore racist jokes in my presence. I can’t stand being included in their little racist world.
Baud
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
@schrodingers_cat:
Two other words for your new friend: Fuck you!
rikyrah
Kristen Clarke (@KristenClarkeJD) Tweeted:
According to Karl Rove, Brett #Kavanaugh was involved with every policy decision the Bush administration made.
Why is @SenateMajLdr refusing to release docs from Kavanaugh’s time at the WH? What are they hiding? #ReleaseTheRecords
https://t.co/hPhpkgaZy4 https://twitter.com/KristenClarkeJD/status/1023218817886023681?s=17
brendancalling
Alex Lombard, who confronted Sean Spicer in RI over past racism, was a pal of mine in high school. I wish o had his contact info, I’d give him a high five.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Right. It’s something I’ve never understood about the original Marxist theory.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@schrodingers_cat: No kidding. I crossed those people off my list.
@Barbara: I was at a gathering someone else organized and I hesitated to start something at someone else’s party. Also, I was so shocked it took me a few minutes to say anything at all. I must have lived in surrounded by my liberal friends, just as the joker lived surrounded by people who would think the joke was funny.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ruckus: The military worked well for the kid, it gave her focus that she lost in her first attempt at college. It also opened her up to a career that she hadn’t thought of before joining(Nursing).
efgoldman
@p.a.:
Can’t speak for G&T, but efg has been sleeping much if the day
And yes, BJ is loading/reloading very slowly
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Yarrow:
That’s it. My scenario used this as a guideline:
Aftermath: Population Zero.
rikyrah
From a whining farmer
Raw Story (@RawStory) Tweeted:
“I slept with a billionaire because he said he loved me. I expected to make love, but in the morning I realized I was getting screwed.” Ouch. https://t.co/b8eRdWlKSV https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1023293632558841856?s=17
Josie
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
When you speak of the Old Folks Farm, do you mean the people in your apartment complex, your neighborhood, your church? I haven’t been told any racist jokes lately, but many acquaintances on Facebook repeat that prayer in the schools canard rather often. It sets my teeth on edge.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
scrolling up, I assumed this was a post about Stormy, or Karen, or Melania
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Ruckus:
Reminds me of that one Rush song:
“We see so many tribes — overrun and undermined
While their invaders dream of lands they’ve left behind
Better people — better food — and better beer
Why move around the world when Eden was so near?”
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Josie: We moved to a senior living facility in a Chicago suburb about three weeks ago. We live in a building with condos and it’s folks from there I’m talking about. We’ve been going to a Unitarian church. Nobody there is going to advocate for prayer in the schools.
?BillinGlendaleCA
For SoCal jackals some news from The Huntington: they’re starting construction on the final phase of the Chinese Garden and things will be getting stinky…the corpse flower will bloom soon.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud:
I know many people who would be happy to attempt to educate you on the topic. I don’t recommend it.
schrodingers_cat
@Josie: I went to a Catholic school, we said prayers every morning. Made the sign of the cross after every period. All that did was made an atheist as a teen. Now I am more agnostic and have a live and let live attitude as long as people don’t foist their religiosity on me.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: True Marxism/Communism/Socialism has never been tried, or so they say.
Yarrow
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Did you move to a retirement community? From experience I can tell you that if someone is now saying things that previously they wouldn’t have said in public it can be an early sign of memory loss issues–dementia, Alzheimer’s, etc. Long before other obvious signs, that loss of inhibition with what is said in public can be a tell that the person may be developing issues.
That doesn’t mean the person isn’t racist. They are because otherwise they wouldn’t think those things, let alone say them. But they may be getting to the point where they can’t stop themselves from saying things out loud.
Or they may just be a racist jerk.
rikyrah
Mr. Weeks ✊? (@MrDane1982) Tweeted:
This is the second article today, now questioning if the 2016 election was legitimate
Was the 2016 election legitimate? It’s now definitely worth asking the question https://t.co/z8xy550PML https://twitter.com/MrDane1982/status/1023283419332141056?s=17
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
I know it’s never been tried. I just don’t know how it’s supposed to work.
@Major Major Major Major: Right. This conversation is just between sane people.
Josie
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Ah, I knew you had moved but did not realize it was a senior facility. I am a senior myself, and, although I know it’s not good to generalize, I find that many people my age are quite conservative and close minded. Maybe it’s because I live in Texas, but I always seem to wind up friends with people who are younger than I am. It is one reason I enjoy BJ so much – there are other seniors who actually think like I do.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Baud:
By removing human free will and having them run on “scripts” like NPCs in a video game, united under the command of an all-powerful leader. You’d be surprised what could be accomplished when freed from the shackles of consensus. However, that would also destroy much of what makes us human.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Yarrow: Quite a few folk are saying stuff now because they think, due to Trump, that it’s OK to let their freak flag fly.
Baud
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Mind control can make anything work. But that wasn’t Marx’s original plan.
Josie
@schrodingers_cat:
Yeah, anyone who thinks that prayer is going to fix things in the schools has never stood in front of thirty antsy middle schoolers who would rather do anything than listen to a morning prayer.
lamh36
Good Saturday evening BJ.
Had longer than expected day today. My low tire pressure light came on yesterday…went to get some air at the Quick 5 & they said they couldn’t put air in cause I have Nitrogen filled tires. So I had to schedule a service appt with my dealership, for late afternoon today (It’s a work weekend, so I can have free days for Miami, which I REALLY can’t wait for now). But they called me this moring bout 10am to get the service appt moved up…so I had to fast break through my workload today just to get to the earlier appt (I had to do in 2-3 hrs, what I usually had 3-4 hrs to do!!) I made it to the appt bout 5 min late, but I made it.
The reason for low pressure…a nail on my tire that was against the thread and not patchable, so it needed to be replaced!!!
Sigh…an expense that was NOT budgeted, but thankfully I could spare, but still whenever something like that hppens, I always think to myself, the only reason to not stay single is only having ONE DAMN INCOME. so every extra expense has to come from my one lil ole check, instead of maybe having a S.O. who can maybe front me the money for a bit ????????
Anyway, the tired is replaced and it’s all good, but still…
https://media.giphy.com/media/12yo8lScM5oOI0/giphy.gif
rikyrah
Rosh Lowe (@rloweon7) Tweeted:
Exclusive video. This baby boy was quite the story. @MiamiBeachPD say an off duty @myNMBPolice officer kicked his mom in the stomach causing her to go into premature labor. The father speaks to us. @myNMBPolice has had no comment. @wsvn https://t.co/RU4Ri6g1Aa https://twitter.com/rloweon7/status/1022501491783950336?s=17
efgoldman
@schrodingers_cat:
I’m old enough that we still had prayer or bible reading in the morning, in public school, along with the pledge.
Ruckus
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
It’s a second or third chance for a lot of people who for whatever reason don’t have enough direction at a young age. Some, like the kid, make the most of it. It is a harsh and relatively unforgiving exposure to the bigger world. Some need that for any number of reasons. My folks, my dad especially, understood that even if they didn’t know they did. I’m not sure what caused that but I think that adversity was more common in my parents younger days, that there were still a lot of fresh immigrants from a lot of places so there was more diversity in the experience of their parents. My grandfather was a factory trained Packard mechanic before he crossed the country by horse drawn wagon with his wife and my one yr old dad. That’s the kind of experience a lot of people in my parents generation had (both grandparents were born in 1890), and they saw a lot different world than people born in the last 50-60 yrs. They were somewhat successful in passing that on to me.
rikyrah
Great Stacey Abrams story????
https://twitter.com/MikeLynchTweets/status/1022467780363382784
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Baud:
No. I just think that Marx’s plan, that we will all end up in a classless, government-less utopia where everyone works for the betterment of all unconditionally and get what they need, while admirable, ignores human nature.
My point was that mass mind control and a dictator with absolute power would be the only means for that “peaceful” world to come into being.
Cain
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
This reminds me of another Rush song lyric – “Cities full of hatred, fear and lies, withered hearts and cruel tormented eyes, Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, breaking down the multitudes, scoffing at the wise.”
Ruckus
@rikyrah:
One of the smart ones, who recognizes a bad screwing isn’t quite the same as a loving relationship. Both involve the same equipment but one you want to repeat as often as possible and the other makes you sorry you understand why keeping a gun handy isn’t all that smart.
Yarrow
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: That scenario sounds reasonable. Remember the one person would be prey for all the animals. You might not run out of food; you might become food.
A Ghost To Most
I love my adopted state.
Fuck you, GOP traitors.
rikyrah
THREAD ??
Arapaho415 (@arapaho415) Tweeted:
@ThomasS4217 1/ This <thread> provides a timeline for what appears to be a coordinated effort by the current WH to expand pool of children available for transnational adoptions, which began at the State dept.’s Consular Affairs office on Jan 27, 2017, and by DHS on Feb 2, 2017
#ZeroTolerance
https://twitter.com/arapaho415/status/1017265661888753665?s=17
Yarrow
@?BillinGlendaleCA: This is true and since DAW doesn’t know these people she’s not really in a position to say if the person has always been overtly racist, if Trump has loosened the person’s tongue, or if there’s a health issue at play.
Ruckus
@schrodingers_cat:
Difficult for a type of government to work that denies the concept of personal survival, something the vast majority of all animals have built in. Even our military, which values the survival of itself above the value of any individual, has never lost sight of that and in fact rewards with it’s highest honor those who can see past their own survival for the betterment of the organization.
J R in WV
I think corporate boards should have half the members from the unions of the company’s working people. This apparently works out well in Europe, as shocking as that may be to pure capitalists.
Of course, there would have to be unions everywhere,wouldn’t there…
Another lurker
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I moved to Bradenton Fl. nearly 3 years ago. In this time I have been cornered twice by racists on the local party fishing boat. The first time was before the 2016 election. They spotted a peace sign on my Kindle. Theought the whole day I was confronted with “Hiliary is a cun$” “Bitch belongs in Jail” etc.. Another trip, one of the locals sidled up next to me, I was fishing the bow, and complained that there were too many ni$$ers fishing the stern. On a long offshore trip, the theme was a species of “dirty ” joke that I haven’t experienced since since high school gym class. Throw in some blatently racist jokes and you have one of the reasons that I am done with FL. I have never been able to click here. I’m gone come Oct. 31st, at the latest.
It seems like the assholes were already empowered before I moved here. My apologies to Betty C. and Adam, but I don’t know how brilliant, passionate folks like yourself make it, down here.
BTW, I’m a native NYer and I thought I had seen everything.
Ohio Mom
@Dorothy A. Winsor: My MIL moved into a pretty posh independent living set-up about five or six years ago. It took her months and months to find the friends she wanted to keep.
Her first months reminded me of junior high school —
discovering the cliques that wouldn’t take her in, the drama of who was going to sit next to whom in the dining room, being too eagerly befriended by boors that were later hard to shake.
It’s no secret I don’t like MIL much but I was really feeling for her. She’s very happy there now, it just took time. And while she didn’t need the extra supports when she moved there, she’s going through an aging spurt (she turned 86 in December). It’s clear it’s a good thing she’s settled in there.
Her experience made me realize what a luxury of middle-age it is to have your own house and live just the way you want to.
JWL
The shot callers at the DNC should immediately appeal for contributions from their rank and file to raise the money to plaster the country with that billboard. The artist is brilliant who designed it..
Ruckus
@rikyrah:
When I first read that I made the same mistake a lot of the twitter followers did.
It was her child, it wasn’t born yet that kicked her and sent her into labor. Yes she may not have been a good cop but this was only a human interest story, just not written very well.
rikyrah
For all the “fixing economic anxiety will defeat racism ” fools
https://twitter.com/MonieTalks_1/status/1023253778441617408
Ruckus
@Ohio Mom:
I see you’ve met my roommate.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@J R in WV: Commie!
A Ghost To Most
@Another lurker:
I came to that conclusion 40+ years ago, along with every other southern state.
Hot, humid, buggy, flat, and filled with xian fascist assholes.
You can do better.
Another lurker
@Josie: Another meme that drives me crazy is “the unions ruined this country” . I almost lost it with an announcer of mine, a baseball player (pitcher) who actually said that in front of a union broadcast crew. I mentioned that he did OK with player’s union contracts over the years. He mumbled something about socialism and the situation was different and then changed the subject.
It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Yarrow:
That’s true, but unless you encountered animals from the zoo or you lived in a rural area, you likely wouldn’t have too many problems. Feral dog packs would be an issue for sure, though. Having weapons would be must in that case.
Having a large supply of non-perishable foods and bottled water would be essential to surviving the first year-to-two years. Securing that supply would buy a survivor time to learn how to hunt and prepare food as well as discover sources of fresh water. The internet would no longer exist but libraries would still be around; you could conceivably learn about every survival skill needed as well as any other practical skills (like electrical wiring and how to use ham radios)
Schlemazel
@schrodingers_cat:
HA, I went to bible study every week for 8 years as a kid. One summer (I was 15) I decided to red the bible cover to cover. It didn’t make sense. I prayed. I talked to the minister that had confirmed me. That only made it worse. I assumed I had missed something. so I reread it again the next summer. It made an agnostic out of me. I became an atheist when I realized it was possible to understand there is no god.
evodevo
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: yes … communes rarely survive much past a couple years, when everyone becomes aware of the freeloaders and fails to bring them to heel, OR the whole thing gets taken over by the first narcissistic sociopath to happen on to it, who then recruits like-minded nutters and assumes permanent control. Humans have always had such personalities in the mix, but in an egalitarian society at the band or tribal level, they are eliminated either by social shaming or more violent means (see almost ANY anthropology study of “primitive” societies). Idealism rarely survives the first encounter with the reality of human nature/genetics …
rikyrah
Uh huh
xoxo (@Prison4Trump) Tweeted:
When is a coincidence not a coincidence?
Remember Erik Prince brother to Betsy Devos who was looking for a back channel for trump to communicate with Putin?
Ever wonder how an incompetent woman finds her way to head US education?
There’s a goosebump causing link!
@FBI @FBIWFO https://t.co/NRwQ0y2Dlx https://twitter.com/Prison4Trump/status/1023222448219717632?s=17
Schlemazel
@Another lurker:
I got to explain the KK to my kids one day while we lived in FLorida. We were sitting at a stoplight when a car with 4 guys in white robes pulled up next to us. 6 & 8 year olds noticed & asked me what was up. I know it is not just Florida but they do love to let their freak flags fly there
evodevo
@Schlemazel: The #1 reason most become atheists is reading the Bibble cover to cover and discovering what a hot mess of contradictions and lies it is …most of us know FAR more about it than any fundie Xtian I have ever encountered lol
Ruckus
@A Ghost To Most:
Back in 2004 when I was deciding where to open my new business after I left my job (I knew I didn’t want to live/stay where there was snow, a non winter sport really doesn’t do well in those conditions) I looked at a map. Now I’d been to 45 of the states by then (added Hawaii since) most many times and I knew, nothing south of the Mason Dixon, nothing north of about latitude 38 deg or that has actual winter. That limits a lot of the country.
Gelfling 545
@Major Major Major Major: When my daughter was doing her undergrad degree in history she took a seminar on Das Kapital. We had readings from Karl Marx at Sunday dinner all semester.
Another lurker
@A Ghost To Most: Thanks. To be fair, I love the Fl. fishing, diving and wildlife. If it wern’t for the people, it would be the perfect place for me.
I am especially disappointed in my age group (I’m 66). For a while I did handyman work. I met some very strange folks, here. The ones who helped further convince me to leave were a wealthy couple, in a gated community, who hired me to hang curtains.. I arrived on time at their squeaky clean new house and started measuring. The entire time I was there, the woman of the house told me that my rate, $25/hr was too expensive. I concentrated on hanging the curtains, responding only with: “Well, we agreed on $25/hr. when you hired me”. She said she decided that $20/hr was enough. I continued with my work.
Meanwhile, her husband said not a word. He sat at his kitchen island counter, cleaning his handguns. There was a 9mm Glock and a .38 cal revolver.
I would have been more comfortable if he had been jerking off the whole time. Which in retrospect, was exactly what he was doing.
Another lurker
@Schlemazel: I saw a lifted pick-up here with the S.S. insignia lightning bolts. To be fair, I also saw the same insignia on a pick-up in a LIRR parking lot.
RedDirtGirl
@rikyrah: Hey Rikyrah, I saw the LA Times article. Do you know which the other paper was?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Another lurker: I would have been more comfortable if he had been jerking off the whole time. Which in retrospect, was exactly what he was doing.
Ha! and, yeah.
Until I got to that part, you were making me think of this write up of The Villages, which sounds to my aging ass like hell on earth. I’m 50, and I sometimes wonder where the hell I’m gonna end up when the machine starts breaking down
Ruckus
@Schlemazel:
I knew I liked you for a reason.
Mom made me go to Sunday school/bible study/church. So one day when I was 12 I decided to do the same as you, read the damn book. That’s all it took, I’ve only been in church twice since. Once for a wedding and once because I went to a Catholic all boys technical school for freshman year and was told unequivocally that I had to go to confession. I’m not Catholic. The priest who told me that got to hear my confession later that I would never go again because it was against my religion. He was at a loss for words. Oh wait I did go in that building one other time as it was also used as the school auditorium and they had a freshman “lecture,” the gist of which consisted of a contest to see which shop (remember technical school) had the shortest freshman. My shop selected me, but I told them to go fuck themselves. They decided not to push it, I don’t think it would have gone well for any of us. But I could imagine my mom, taking a day off work to go there and talk to the VP, one Father Schafer. I don’t think I would have been going to that school after that, mom had a way with words and wasn’t impressed with pomposity.
frosty
@lamh36: The trailer we’re buying has nitrogen filled tires. I read up on them and they’re beneficial in specific circumstances. I’ll refill them with air. Forget trying to find N2 on the road.
Ohio Mom
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Your questions about surviving on one’s own reminds me of three real-life cases. One is the book I read in elementary school, “Island of the Blue Dolphins,” which is based on a true story about a young Pacific Islander teen who survived by herself for I think it was six years; I don’t remember how she ended up on the island by herself.
The second instance was all over the news several years ago. A Russian family headed by a hardcore fundamentalist moved to Siberia to escape godless Stalinism. Eventually the parents and two brothers died and the sister was left on her own, not discovered for many, many years. They had bought a metal pot along and years of stirring and cleaning wore out the bottom. They had no way to repair the hole so there went cooking in a pot. They farmed and hunted but were often extremely hungry — in fact the mother purposely starved to death because she wanted the available food to go to the children.
The last instance was a recent story about a lone Brazilian aborigine, the sole survivor of his tribe, spotted from an airplane. I only read that headline though, I don’t know any details.
Then there’s Robinson Curoso. That’s fiction of course but it shows that the idea of surviving an isolated existence has intrigued people forever.
I don’t think I could stand it, even if I had any of the required skills. I’d go bonkers with fear.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Yarrow: Yeah, I’d heard that, so I tried to be generous. Within limits, of course.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@frosty: You can put regular old air in N2 tires.
frosty
@?BillinGlendaleCA: ‘xactly. And that’s what I’ll do.
Yarrow
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: You’re wrong about the animals. Take a look at the timeline you linked upthread. The animals would pack together (dogs especially) and eat anything smaller. Most cities have issues with wildlife wandering in anyway–coyotes, bear, whatever–so that sort of thing would still be happening and in fact increase because no humans would be there to scare them away. Hungry animals will attack anything they think they can take down and a human would not be a match for them, especially in the early days as sorting was happening.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@frosty: Just don’t take the N2 out, air is 78% N2. BTW, Costco has N2.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Yarrow: Just remember Colbert’s “Threat Down”, #1 was almost always BEARS!
MagdaInBlack
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
You are in the weathy quietly racist nw suburbs. I think I used that phrase once before about the area. Unfortunate truth is that its common. A fortunate truth is that #NotAllOfUs ?
Im a fellow jackel down the road from you ☺️
Jim Parish
@Ruckus: I once had a colleague, ex-Army, who had spent some time stationed in Germany. He told me the saddest thing he saw over there was a GI coming out of the PX with a loaf of Wonder Bread and a six-pack of Schlitz.
Brachiator
@Ohio Mom:
The Crusoe story may have been inspired by the life of Alexander Selkirk, who survived on an uninhabited island for four years.
The book was one of the first real novels that I read as a kid.
frosty
@?BillinGlendaleCA: ???? Duh, I’m not filling them with pure O2. Nothing I read says you have to have N2. Unless you’re racing it’s a marketing gimmick. For a trailer??
Mr. Tire does too, but neither will help me on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.
Ruckus
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Nitrogen is used because it doesn’t react with the materials in the tires, it’s not all that rare, it doesn’t have moisture in it as shipped in the tanks, it’s not flammable, it holds a more consistent pressure, especially at higher temps such as in racing. Which is why it’s used in all forms of high speed motorsport. Several cars now come with it in the tires for the same reasoning, well that along with marketing. But it is better, just a bit hard to find when you have a flat or just need to add a bit of pressured something to your tires.
Schlemazel
@evodevo:
I have used that to my advantage a few times. I got into it with an anti-choice asshole a few weeks ago. One of those guys on the corner with the ugly sign. I mentioned Matthew 6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.” He started screaming at me that I was the devil quoting lies.
Jay
@Baud: @Baud:
It’s called a Worker’s Cooperative.
It how a lot of Argentine Companies survived the tender minstrations of the IMF.
The “best” apparent model is that all the workers hold shares, ( earner or bought), but no outsiders own shares, and workers can only sell shares to another worker or the Company itself. The Company can only sell shares to the workers. How many shares an individual can own is limited.
Worker’s elect the Board from other workers.
The Board “hires” Senior Management from either outside, ( and they become Workers) or internally, based on expertise.
Profits, are either distributed as general bonus’s, merit based bonus’s, banked, or reinvested, or some combination of all 4, based on recommended plans from the Board, the Annual Report, and a company wide vote on the Boards proposed options.
Extended nationwide, everybody owns their own labour, Capital is only cooperative.
Ruckus
@frosty:
Actually for a trailer it makes a lot of sense. Many trailers are very hard on tires. They aren’t meant for the speeds and loads a lot of people put them under and often don’t get proper maintenance as they often get parked a lot and then moved without another thought. Also cars now have tpm so that you know without even having to get out that your tires are low. Your trailer isn’t so equipped.
Schlemazel
@Another lurker:
We have Nazis here in MN but they used to be underground & afraid to speak up. Something happened a few years ago, can’t imagine what, they became much more bold.
Schlemazel
@Ruckus:
I actually took my kids to church for a while. I thought it would be good for them to be able to ‘pass’ if they had to. To my kids credit they saw through it & started asking questions I didn’t ask until I was older.
Schlemazel
@Jay:
That sounds like a real workers paradise to me! The only downside would be if the current workers decided to screw future workers for immediate gains. Having been screwed very thoroughly by shareholders & B’soD though I would gladly take my chances with fellow workers
Ruckus
@Jim Parish:
An old saying “Some people’s taste is in their ass.”
Never more apt than when seeing Wonder Bread (don’t you just imagine they came up with the name because they knew everyone would wonder if it’s actually bread) and Schlitz.
Brachiator
@Schlemazel:
Yeah, I got that once when I pointed out to an idiot that the Bible does not prohibit abortion.
I’ve read the Bible a couple of times, but never just freestyle, which is pointless, but as part of classes on mythology, history, ancient Middle Eastern texts, etc.
Schlemazel
@Ohio Mom:
HA! I have not thought about “Island of the Blue Dolphin” in years. Loved that book at the time.
EriktheRed
Bet that sign would go over really well in Colorado Springs.
Doug R
@Baud:
Psst…..They don’t either.
Shell
Now thats branding!
Jay
@Schlemazel:
Like anything, the devils in the details. Every aspect of “gaming” the system has to be thought out and regulated against, either by the Government, or the Coop. In Canada, we haveat least 2 examples of Worker/Public Coops that are highly sucessful, and good, ethical places to work, Mountain Equiptment Coop, ( MEC) and The Farmers Cooperative of Canada, (Coop).
Constructing an entire society based around the base premise, would be difficult because of the options of abuse of Capital, and of course, humans often ain’t all that great individually.
Brachiator
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
It would be tough to last more than a few years. Coyotes, feral dogs, etc., would be coming for you, and there would be no margin of error should you even just get wounded.
You are assuming a young, healthy, smart survivor who can figure shit out, and will have time to do so. Locked, dark libraries are your enemy. And if you are the only one who exists, and the only one who will ever exist, what’s the point of going on? Fighting existential dread will be difficult.
OTOH, “Z for Zachariah,” one of Margot Robbie’s early films, is an interesting take on the last three people on Earth.
efgoldman
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Generally, no one over thirty cares about these late night dorm conversations. We’re too busy living our lives.
A Ghost To Most
@Another lurker:
After 26 years in Maryland, I had had enough. Moved to CO, worked 8 more years here, and am now retired, working on my 4×4, and conquering some of the worst roads in the state.
I haven’t been east of the Black Hills,SD since 2012. I.Do.Not.Miss.
Steve in the ATL
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: “Reminds me of [a] Rush song”
I’ll take “Things I’ve Never Said” for $400, Alex was
A Ghost To Most
@EriktheRed:
You misspelled Dobson Springs.
A Ghost To Most
@Ruckus: Lots of off-roaders carry a tank of CO2 for airing up quickly after lowering pressure for nasty roads. CO2 is easy to procure from bar supply companies, and I haven’t heard of any problems.
Steve in the ATL
@efgoldman: I don’t understand preppers. Who the hell wants to survive a nuclear apocalypse?
A Ghost To Most
@Schlemazel:
“You’re a Christian fascist asshole” is shorter.
A Ghost To Most
@Steve in the ATL:
Maybe it’s not a nuclear apocalypse. What are your plans if civil war breaks out? I am hardly the only one who thinks it is possible.
efgoldman
@Schlemazel:
Facts are frightening things to a closed mind
Jay
@Steve in the ATL:
“Prepping” used to be considered normal societal skills. You know, putting enough food away for winter, having enough seasoned firewood, weathering shortages.
Another lurker
@Schlemazel: Well, FWIW, in my own humble opinion, the boldness of assholes is due to the civility of we libs. By acting as though everyone’s opinion has equal value, we enabled all sorts of moronic rhetoric and behavior.
BellyCat
@lamh36: That sucks… BTW: It’s fine to put regular air in tires that are filled with nitrogen.
Nitrogen has been used for years by racers in their tires because it does not expand as much when it gets hot; thus, changing handling characteristics.
When you put regular air in a tire, it will simply expand a little more than nitrogen when it heats up. Nitrogen is possibly nice in the south, where roads get really really hot, but in regular cars, I think it is a little bit of a gimmick that keeps you coming back to the dealer.
FAR better to drive a car with proper pressure in the tires — even if you are mixing air and nitrogen — than a tire that is low. If you are really concerned, go to a dealer after you have put air in the tire. They will simply bleed off the air and replace it with nitrogen.
Another lurker
@A Ghost To Most: Funny. I do miss the N.E. but I’m done with the weather. Too many trips from the Island into Brooklyn, during Basketball season.
BellyCat
@Another lurker: Yeah… And while we are at, it let’s re-examine this thing where everyone gets an equal vote! //(sort of)
Jay
@Another lurker:
Yup, seconded.
Another lurker
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: A friend tried to introduce me to someone who lived in The Villages. I lasted 5 minutes into a conversation, excused myself and left the bar. Narrow minded, no sense of humor, racist, the whole package. The only thing that I didn’t find out about her was if she had an STD. I was out of there too quickly.
It seems that The Villages has a very high incidence of STDs.
J R in WV
@Schlemazel:
Me too. The Presbyterian Church gave me a bible after a couple of years of sunday school, and I decided to read it all the way from front to back. WHUT? It didn’t make much sense, so I did it again. \
Just nope! Ancient goat herds in the middle eastern desert, looking at the stars and worrying about lions and wolves eating their flocks. And telling each other stories their GGGrand parents made up in the middle eastern deserts.
Then after centuries, someone learned how to write it down, and here we are!! Governed by ancient mythologies. And a twit.
efgoldman
@Another lurker:
Certainly not worth it for the Nets – or the Knickerbockers, for that. Dunno’ why anybody would pay good American dollars for them
Another lurker
@BellyCat: LOL! Sadly, we have to adhere to one person, one vote.
However, we can try to eliminate the un democratic nature of the Electoral College. We can make progress on this if all states pledge their Electoral Votes to the Candidate who wins the popular vote…… You can say that I’m a dreamer……
Ohio Mom
@Brachiator: Well then, Curoso/Selkirk is another example.
Now all of the people in these stories are found, none of them live the rest of their entire lives by themselves, as Goku imagines he would as the only person to survive the end of humanity. But if they weren’t found, and their solitude ended, we wouldn’t know about them, would we?
JustRuss
@Ohio Mom: As I recall, the girl’s village was massacred by European traders, and when the survivors left the girl–and I believe her younger brother, but not sure–got left behind somehow.
Another lurker
@efgoldman: They have been dreadful, lately!
However, it was a good, union gig.
I’m proud to say that I had a small part in organizing our local. I was a plankowner and I spent 6 years on the Eboard. Working together really does work, for the improvement of all.
efgoldman
@Another lurker:
Doing angels’ work.
Although some NY are unions (cops, transit) are too powerful and have let it go to their heads.
The transit unions on DC Metro, also too
Ohio Mom
@JustRuss: Yes, that sounds vaguely familiar — I’m not surprised that there is a lot I forgot about The Island of the Blue Dolphins, I read it close to half a century ago.
I’m amazed I remember any of it at all, though back in those days, I used to reread any book I liked until it was due back at the library.
Ruckus
@A Ghost To Most:
CO2 is OK but from a chemical standpoint nitrogen is less reactive. Also it’s possible to seat a rim on a tire if you use something with oxygen, say plain air or CO2. I’m not going to try it for any reason but there are YTube videos about this. When I was in school I couldn’t work for my dad because of the drive after school to get there. So I had jobs like the rest of the kids, one was working in a gas station. The HS kids (2 of us!) worked alternate nights and all day Sunday. We pumped gas (Full Service!) and did mechanical work, from oil changes, washes, tire changes, tuneups. The instructions for the tire changer had horror stories of changing truck tires, as these use to be what’s known as split rims. One side is a split ring which is sort of forced into a groove after the tire is put on the center/one side of the rim. If you don’t do it correctly that ring will shoot off and can imbed itself into a 6×6 rafter 12 feet off the floor. If you are in the way it will take your head or any other body part right off. I’ve often expected to see one of those videos of some moron filling a tire and blowing himself up as he lights it off.
Ohio Mom
@efgoldman: I think you could say that about any cop union, not just the NY one.
My governor Kasich tried outlawing public service unions but forget to exclude fire and police unions from his effort. It blew up in his face because for once the public safety guys did the right thing. I guess there is one limit to how right wing they can be.
A Ghost To Most
@Another lurker:
The weather here is awesome. We get snow, but mostly powder, not like east coast concrete. The snow seldom hangs around long, and there are frequent warm spells. The summers are heaven.
JR
Time to get the Jacobin committees assembled, everyone
BellyCat
@Another lurker: Dreamer….
(But co-signed)
A Ghost To Most
@Ruckus: Yea, CO2 is probably not optimal, but the tanks can fill tires much faster than my onboard compressor. That helps if your plan involves road miles to another trail.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@efgoldman:
That happened with quite a few unions in the late 60’s and 70’s. They were faced with a bunch of new entrants into the labor force, that the Democrats were welcoming, like young folk(Boomers) and POC . So some cast their lot with Republicans(Teamsters supporting Nixon), that worked out really well for them.
Brachiator
@Ohio Mom:
Yep. Survivors returning to civilization, or maybe founding new colonies, generate more interest than lone survivor stories.
These tales fired people’s Interest again coming with the new age of sail beginning in the 17th century. Shakespeare’s “Tempest” was inspired by the wreck of the Sea Venture in Bermuda in 1609.
efgoldman
Blog is loading excruciatingly slowly,
Win10 Desktop, latest firefox.
Rebooted twice, didn’t help.
No other page/site has the problem
Ohio Mom
@Brachiator: Goku inspired all these comments and is nowhere to be seen. But maybe it is ironically appropriate that he disappeared.
Ohio Mom
@efgoldman: Is it remembering your nym? It keeps forgetting mine.
efgoldman
@Ohio Mom:
Unless i reboot or switch browsers, yes.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ohio Mom: Maybe he was raptured.
James E Powell
Open thread question for whoever is still on this thread:
Is Britbox worthwhile?
BruceFromOhio
Somewhere, Lyndon LaRouche is laughing his ass off.
Another lurker
@James E Powell: I like it. I’m currently watching “The Bletchly Circle: San Francisco” and it is top notch.
Tehanu
@Josie: When I was 9 we moved to Alabama for a year and on the first day of school, in the first class, when everyone stood, I assumed it was for the pledge of allegiance — but it was for the Lord’s Prayer, which I didn’t even know as my parents weren’t religious. I went home and said, “I thought that was against the law!” My mother said, “Well, it is, but these people are stubborn and you’d better just go along with it.” One of the several reasons why, many decades later, my hero is General Sherman.
SFAW
@efgoldman:
It doesn’t (initially) load especially slowly for me, but what I find is that all the various scripts and pop-ups (or so I assume) suck up a ton of memory, which has the effect of dragging my browser’s (Firefox on a Win XP platform) performance to near-zero. I realize Firefox has always had memory management issues, but it gets really exacerbated on this site.
Ruckus
@A Ghost To Most:
This is true. Most people don’t put a 5 hp compressor in the back of their truck if they don’t need it. Machine shops and tire stores do. Our 5 hp unit runs almost continuously every day as half our machines have to have 80-100 lb air to run. Big truck tire shops run even bigger compressors.
Gregory
There is (or was — it’s been a few weeks since I’ve made the trip) one like that on I-65 between Louisville and Indianapolis, smack in the middle of Indiana farm country.
Uncle Cosmo
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Fercrapsake, that’s always been the Far Left’s shtick: Anyone who does not agree with every word (& punctuation mark) of our 25-point program must be destroyed. Starting with those who only agree with 24. Can’t take a chance that the masses will follow the faction that’s almost correct!
When I was a Johns Hopkins undergrad in the late 60s I was regularly & repeatedly disgusted with meetings of the campus Moratorium committee. Foolish me, I though the idea was to end a fucking war that was fucking killing people – but it was more important for RYM II** & the Labor Committees to squabble endlessly over arcane details of Marx/Lenin/Maoist doctrine.
Meanwhile the Far
Rightsays to each other, Is there some group we can all agree we hate? There is? Welcome! And if we on the portside aren’t careful, it’ll goddamn well happen again.——
** Revolutionary Youth Movement, Take II. (Take I was the Weathermen. The reboot was less bloodthirsty & slightly less crazy.)
Uncle Cosmo
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: FWIW there’s an old trope to the effect that capitalism is the exploitation of Man by Man – & socialism is the reverse.
workworkwork
@James E Powell: We just started our BritBox subscription.
My wife and I are Anglophiles and we already have Acorn, which has a lot of content from Canada, the UK and Australia/NZ.
But BritBox has, among other things, all the classic Doctor Who episodes, more current shows like Mock the Week and QI as well as classics like Pride and Prejudice with a very young Colin Firth.
We don’t have cable so we think it’s a worthwhile subscription.
As always, your mileage may vary.