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Actually, it happened under Mitch McConnell's watch. https://t.co/OnWoJob8AR
— Jennifer Hayden (@Scout_Finch) July 18, 2018
Does Putin have a pee tape of Sarah Huckabee Sanders?
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) July 18, 2018
Despite all the criticisms of her performance, Huckabee Sanders is an artist in her own Southern-Gothic niche. She was hired — and she does her job, in this context, brilliantly — to be the grim, dutiful Good Wife who insists that ERRYTHING IS JUST FAAAAHNE THENK YEW in front of the village congregation. Sure, the whole neighborhood knows that (behind the facade) ‘Daddy’ is a mean drunk who knocks her around and sleeps with hookers, the family business is forever teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, her kids are out of control and would be in jail or another institution if the local police weren’t cowed by or complicit in the ‘best families’ oligarchy… but as long as she can slab on enough pancake makeup and wear her ‘family’ pearls, the comforting clan mythology remains unchallenged. It’s not an easy living, but what alternatives does a past-her-prime good Southern girl with no education outside the conservative bubble have? Praise ‘Merican Jeebus for “tradition”, and don’t forget to vote Republican!
When you try and justify your support for our traitor POTUS that’s called Manchuriansplaining.
— Sex Huntress (@OhNoSheTwitnt) July 19, 2018
"In Sanders’s briefings, the Overton window doesn’t widen or narrow so much as it angrily yells at you for not being a door.” https://t.co/BG5qdZcgzl
— Yoni Appelbaum (@YAppelbaum) July 19, 2018
… It is a well-worn cliché of the Trump presidency—which is also to say, it is a well-worn cliché about the Trump psyche—that, within a White House as vertically integrated as this one, loyalty counts above all. And Sarah Sanders, the press secretary who will have been on the job, this week, for one year—the White House announced her promotion to the role in July of 2017—performs that loyalty every time she meets the press.
This is a White House that prioritizes the scoring of points over the complexities of compromise. Sanders, on behalf of the president she works for—a happy warrior in a culture war that has found a front in the James S. Brady briefing room at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue—takes for granted an assumption that would be shocking were it not so common in the American culture of the early 21st century: There are things that are more important than truth.
Things like, for example, the claiming of victory against the other side. Things like, for example, the owning of libs and the trolling of Dems and the ability to victor-write history so thoroughly that you can claim, with an air of annoyance about being asked to make such a clarification in the first place, that the president’s long history of commentary on Russia has now been nullified, because the president had, in a single public event, “misspoken.” All of which made Wednesday’s briefing—the president will work with his team—both deeply typical and astounding: Here was one of the most prominent representatives of the White House choosing partisanship over patriotism. Winning above all…Last fall, when she was still settling into the press secretary job after taking it over from Scaramucci, The New York Times asked Sanders, who is very much an evangelical Christian, what led her to want to work for Donald Trump, who is very much not. Sanders replied, matter-of-factly: “I thought he could win.”…
Don’t blame the Spokesmouthpiece, blame the Oval Office Occupant…
Translation: choose Party over country. https://t.co/Gv7xbEoOcR
— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) July 20, 2018
all those stories of how trump projects his deepest insecurities in his unhinged rants ?? https://t.co/tFTn0Wzi1b
— darth™ (@darth) July 19, 2018
The Republican arguments about why we can’t infer that Trump is compromised by Russia in some way amount to saying that he’s emotionally, psychologically, and cohnitively incapable of discharging the duties of his office.
— Jacob T. Levy (@jtlevy) July 19, 2018
“He’s just so mad about the idea of anyone denying him full credit for his great magnificent bigly landslide electoral victory that he can’t see straight and can’t pay attention to anything about Russia and Putin.”
Then he can’t do the job.
— Jacob T. Levy (@jtlevy) July 19, 2018
.@realDonaldTrump is “not afraid of anything” … except for serving in the military, STDs, the public seeing his tax returns, a bald eagle, Putin, a no-carts golf course, Bob Mueller, windy days outdoors without a cap, an honest day’s work, facts, strong women, smart people … https://t.co/5sNQliznQN
— Col. Morris Davis (@ColMorrisDavis) July 19, 2018
Since everything is playing out like a movie, I look forward to the American co-conspirators being rounded up while Trump's military parade lumbers down Pennsylvania Avenue. pic.twitter.com/WYarOKgDLJ
— Schooley (@Rschooley) July 19, 2018
mattH
It’s almost 3am here and I’m reminded that every hotel bedroom is horrible.
How’s everyone else’s day ?
NottMax
“My generals” pretty much ripped back the curtain.
What was that, like a century and a half ago in T-years?
Baud
I agree with Sandere. Obama should have arrested Trump. I’m sure Trump will fix that oversight.
NotMax
My bad. Accidentally typed in NottMax in this thread and also elsewhere. If those could be released, would be grateful.
Otherwise –
Not long ago, there was some discussion here reminiscing about the Young People’s Concerts put together by Leonard Bernstein and broadcast on CBS.
Well, whaddaya know? Lookie what’s on TCM this weekend. All times Eastern.
Saturday, July 21:
8 p.m. – What Does Music Mean?
9:06 p.m. – Humor in Music
10:15 p.m. – What Is a Mode?
11:16 p.m. – A Toast to Vienna in 3/4 Time
Sunday, July 22:
2:30 a.m. – Quiz Concert: How Musical Are You?
Bonus Bernstein, also too.
Sunday, July 22:
8:00 PM – Omnibus: Leonard Bernstein: Beethoven 5th Symphony
8:45 PM – Omnibus: Leonard Bernstein: World of Jazz
9:45 PM – Omnibus: Leonard Bernstein: The Art of Conducting
10:45 PM – Omnibus: Leonard Bernstein: American Musical Comedy
Monday, July 23:
12:15 AM – Omnibus: Leonard Bernstein: Modern Music: The Music You Love to Hate
1:15 AM – Omnibus: Leonard Bernstein: The Music of J.S. Bach
2:30 AM – Omnibus: Leonard Bernstein: What Makes Opera Grand
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
and sharks
WereBear
I loved that paragraphn about Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Anne Laurie.
I thought Daddy’s religion believed the wimmenfolk are supposed to stay at home? What is she doing so close to the levers of power when they might get girl cooties all over them?
mattH
@NotMax: I think we have some viral marketers roaming around here. Only thing that explains it.
mattH
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: stairs
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@WereBear: She’s in an approved women’s role. She’s not actually doing anything or making decisions; she’s covering up the problems.
NotMax
@mattH
Self-confessed germophobe, also too.
raven
@mattH: I get 3 nights in Houston next week.
Jeffro
Funny…it looks like David Ignatius and Eugene Robinson must have been sharing a brain last night…
Ignatius: The IC Has Never Faced a Problem Like This Before
Robinson: God Bless The ‘Deep State’
I think I’ll forward both around a bit today, especially to my gee-aren’t-cha-awfully-quiet-these-days RWNJ relatives.
They both wrap up on the same note – one that Dem candidates around the country ought to make part of every stump speech:
WereBear
I don’t think enough attention has been paid to how the cross pollination of racist religion and capitalist politics has actually made each other worse.
The Rabid Fundamentalist (but I repeat myself) are no strangers to meddling in politics. That is what the 1927 Scopes Trial was all about. And after Clarence Darrow handed them their ass, minced fine and sealed in baggies, they shut up for a while. But now they want to bring back the Inquisition, because the Republicans outright promised them they could. They have degenerated into their wildest dreams like Quiverfull-level women oppression and exploitation of non-whites being legal.
But no one realizes this strange, Star Trekish, transporter accident changed the Republican party more than their platform. They now “go on faith” and think they can ignore reality, as discussed above. “What they do” has been completely unmoored from “what happens next.” As Rove said, “We make our own reality.”
Which doesn’t work. Which let them think they could perpetually get away with their double agent gambit.
Aldrich Ames is doing life for killing hundreds through his actions for his Russian Masters. How many have Republicans killed?
mattH
@raven:
Hope it’s not too terrible. Humidity and heat alone would be bad enough.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Baghdad Bob was a better spokesperson than Huckabee
Mezz
Go ahead and make me feel inferior as I sit and write little hits and narratives to add to lectures during the school year – the whole paragraph was a thing of beauty:
If any of you have read any of the materials on the Queen’s jewelry selection when the Orange Fart-cloud visited, the reference to the “family” pearls is exceptionally gifted. Very impressive Anne
Betty Cracker
I’m off on a road trip to Savannah shortly with my girls. Can’t remember the last time I left Florida. ?
NotMax
Useless trivia learned this week:
The national anthem of Spain has no official lyrics.
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
Got all your shots up to date?
:)
Savannah.
Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. Excellent book, marginal movie.
SRW1
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
“There are no Russians in the White House”!
Betty Cracker
@NotMax: Same oppressive heat. Same moss-draped live oaks and palms. Same malevolence and corruption lurking under the veneer of virtue and civility. And yet so different somehow.
geg6
@Betty Cracker:
Oooo, Savannah is one of few paces in the Deep South that I just adore. We stayed one New Year in a B&B there in an old cotton warehouse on River Street that had antebellum furnishings and a late afternoon wine and cheese spread. Just beautiful. And the party on River Street (open containers encouraged) was a blast.
NotMax
@SRW1
They shuttle back and forth via the tunnel connecting the White House and a certain hotel.
:)
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
More entrancing architecture. Atmosphere so pervasive one could cut it with a butter knife.
Motorcycle trip?
satby
Good morning /evening everyone ?!
Trying to gather the energy to dress and get to the market. MomSense asked earlier this week if anyone else has been struggling with exhaustion (from our relentlessly awful Occupying Traitors) and I just want to say I am. I have trouble getting motivated to do more than stagger through the day. Things are so unreal.
hueyplong
Baghdad Bob delivered his BS with less of a snarl.
OzarkHillbilly
I am shocked, shocked I tell you:
Democrats ‘less inclined to cheat on spouses than Republicans’
Family values and all that.
NotMax
@satby
Above all, never let their evil be the director of your life.
“My life has has meaning, damn it”
– Howard Beale
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
To be fair, Democrats are subjected to fewer Russian honey traps.
Betty Cracker
@geg6: They have a helluva St. Patrick’s Day party there! My sister lived near the riverfront for a few years, so I got to know the town fairly well. We have family connections to it. My paternal grandparents met there during WW2 — my granny was a Georgia farm girl who came to Savannah for a Rosie the Riveter job, and my grandfather was sergeant in the US Army Air Forces, later the USAF, training troops at a nearby base.
@NotMax: Not this time — we’ll be riding in air-conditioned comfort!
NotMax
@Ozark Hilllbilly
There’s a reason hookers say they do brisker business during Republican conventions than Democratic ones.
satby
@NotMax: thanks for that!
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
When you bite into a pecan log from Stuckey’s, think of us.
;)
A Ghost To Most
@WereBear:
Shorter: we need to shine a spotlight on christian fascism.
Disclaimer: I have no use for any religion.
WereBear
@OzarkHillbilly: It is no surprise when they marry for money or too young to get religiously approved sex. When they don’t regard women as people, but incubators who clean. When they don’t have any sense of compassion or loyalty.
When they remain teenagers forever, the last stage where something happens without you making an effort. Ever notice that about them? They don’t like to make an effort.
Patricia Kayden
@OzarkHillbilly: Strange study since it focuses solely on one dating service. Perhaps Democrats don’t need dating services to cheat. We’re brilliant like that.
OzarkHillbilly
Adrian Cronauer– RIP.
Immanentize
@NotMax: yesterday on my NPR station, there a cool segment on Copeland’s Fanfair for the Common Man. It’s only four minutes long (I never realized that) and some jazz musician interviewed suggested it could be our national anthem
I liked that idea.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: To be honest, I’d have been scared of having that bald eagle on my desk.
debbie
I’m loving Trump’s strategy of blaming Obama for not stopping Trump from colluding. “Somebody stop me!”
Immanentize
@SRW1:
But there are White Russians served in my house!
debbie
@Immanentize:
Yes, I heard it too and agree it would be a great anthem. Solves the problem of most people not being able to carry a tune or remember lyrics. But listening to the other versions of the fanfare, it would have to be the original, orchestral version. I’d forgotten how much I dislike ELP’s version.
Immanentize
@satby:
I’m exhausted too. I feel like I am only getting about 75% of what I used to/need to done. It’s frustrating. Which adds to the exhaustion!
OzarkHillbilly
Heh:
Now what kind of person wouldn’t resist against the use of intimidation and terrorism to secure our border? There are better ways after all.
NotMax
Immanentize
Works for me..
Mandatory link (padded out to a few minutes more).
Immanentize
@debbie: agreed. The ELP version was created in that weird period of Switched on Bach and other (to me) sad efforts at “look at my mad synthesizer skillz” productions. Even ELP’S Lucky Man, which I still like a lot as a timely SCA meets Vietnam, gets ruined by their stupid synth skat at the end.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: no shows at their own event?
“Oath Keepers” is a clearly ironic self-title
OzarkHillbilly
No maledictions, but plenty of raw sewage.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize:
Wrapping themselves in the flag while shitting on the Constitution, some “oath” they took.
rikyrah
Good Morning,Everyone ???
Immanentize
@NotMax: oops, I guess you and I will have to set aside ELP on this one….
But one has to be impressed by the revolving drum stage. What Nigel Tufnel and the dead drummers wouldn’t give for that rig!
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
It’s just Georgia?
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
Just wait. You didn’t think that the bad would show up immediately, did you???
lowtechcyclist
@Betty Cracker:
Of course, you’ve gotta drive a looooong ways to get out of Florida. It’s not like it’s easy for you to get to another state. Me, I’ve got 5 states and DC within a 2.5 hour drive.
rikyrah
@satby:
I understand, satby. While I believe that we have made progress, it is exhausting for some to FINALLY be where you were 2 years ago. It’s like..
Wake.the.Phuck.up.??
Baud
@rikyrah: Word.
Anne Laurie
@OzarkHillbilly:
Wait’ll they test that red sludge for unkillable super-bacteria!
lowtechcyclist
@rikyrah:
Reminds me of the Dylan song where he leaves New York City behind:
And of course the punch line:
Immanentize
@rikyrah:
I fear they have not woken up. Just openned one eye, looked at the clock, and rolled over. I suspect most will be snoring again in a moment.
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: @Immanentize: Back in the day I saw ELP in concert several times. Palmer was the heart of every show, quite the showman. While I prefer the orchestral version, I don’t find ELP’s treatment objectionable.
captnkurt
@NotMax: @Betty Cracker:
Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil really is a great book, in which was the first (and only) time I’ve ever heard of the drink Ammonia Coke. Has anyone ever tried one?
Gin & Tonic
@rikyrah: Precisely. I’m not on the Supreme Council of Antiquities, but even I know that the powerful ancient curses take time to do their work.
Dorothy A. Winsor
I’m reading the fourth book in Rachel Caine’s Great Library series. The premise is that the Great Library of Alexandria survived and now has control over all books, and pretty much all knowledge. The technology is steam punk so there’s no internet. Anyway, the library has become an abusive tyrant, and as I’m reading this one, I swear Caine could be writing about Trump (as the Archivist) and the R party who theoretically swear an oath to serve the library but really wind up serving one man.
Spaniel
I am disappointed in the Evangelicals these days, but it is a shell of a word to what it used to mean. They have succumbed to the world in which they promised to fight the good fight. Relativism runs rampant, but it okay because “it is me and Jesus”. BThey fight for government to supply saving grace but refuse to acknowledge common grace. Humanism takes on a different form, as highlighted by studies published by the Barna Group: fend for oneself, tithing is not important, and the re-emergence of the halfway Covenent with everyone going to heaven (other than them who do not look like me or hold similar social, economic, political, and religious beliefs).
Some 20-years ago, the “Left Behind” series was embraced by the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals about how a leader who was self-serving and beguiled those without the truth within. A leader embraced by these same groups is a known liar, manipulator, lecherous, lack ability to dispense common grace, knows not the power of saving grace but shrouds himself as a champion of it, loves money and power.
Gin & Tonic
@lowtechcyclist: Obligatory.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: I would have liked to see them live. And I do love Palmer — in no small part because he was the drummer in Arthur Brown’s Crazy World Band (FIRE!). it’s the extended synth solos that turn me off.
Aardvark Cheeselog
I have been waiting to say, apropos of the topic, that I am fvcking sick of headlines claiming that Sanders “tried to clarify” this or that shitshow remark by the “President.” She has one job, and “clarifying” things is not it.
BruceFromOhio
No matter how bad it gets, please don’t burn the flag. It just does the repubs job for them.
Platonailedit
High time the old farts’ voting power to fuck up everything and everyone (except themselves) is diminished to the point of extinction.
Platonailedit
Betty Cracker
@captnkurt: I’m surprised to hear such a thing exists. I read the book but somehow missed that. My husband’s family is Polish-American, and I ended up with one of their ancient cookbooks, which has an entry for “ammonia cake.” Sounds so gross I’ve never even looked at the ingredients to see if floor cleaner is included!
Baud
@BruceFromOhio: I agree, but your advice seems sort of random.
@Platonailedit:
Young people never vote as much as the olds. But any improvement is welcome.
Baud
@Platonailedit: Once again, Hillary Clinton famously told everyone the truth about Trump in 2016.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: I saw them open for Johhny Winter on May 21, 1971 at Wabash College in Indiana. Winter blew them away.
raven
@Betty Cracker: The Russia soccer team was snorting ammonia before games.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: I understand that, they definitely aren’t for everyone, and can grow tiresome, but then what’s a keyboardist to do?.
sdhays
@NotMax: He’s also terrified of stairs.
Platonailedit
@Baud:
Now a rethug is saying it. Chalk it up to it’s a good thing.
zhena gogolia
@sdhays:
Right! They left that one out.
Baud
@Platonailedit:
They often say things. They rarely do anything.
Immanentize
@raven: @OzarkHillbilly: speaking of Johnny Winter,
I’d say a keyboardist could do “Frankenstein….”
JPL
I have this terrible feeling, that Trump is going to do something irrational today. I know that’s the new norm, but somehow I think today will be worse. (The gut knows)
frosty
@Immanentize: I hope there’s less news today. Not that I have to get anything done – it’s the first day of vacation and I spent the whole day on the phone while Ms. F drove.
raven
@Immanentize: I saw him with Janis Joplin at the Palm Beach Arts and Pop Festival in Nov 69. Highway 61 has never left me.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@JPL: It’s Friday, but maybe Mueller is too busy with Manafort to give us any goodies today.
rikyrah
@Immanentize:
It is the beginning, but the Spy Girl case is a whole other level that is wonderful because of it’s simplicity. I keep on being told that “collusion” is “difficult to understand”.
I think that is complete bullshyt, but, ok.
Spy Girl?
Easiest shyt to understand.
Russian Spy Girl uses sex and money to gain access and influence people.
And, errrrbody in her path is an American. Looking forward to the American names in her case.
Finding out from Maddow last night that Spy Girl’s Sugar Daddy got KT McFarland on the National Security Council was just one tidbit. The names will begin to drip out.
raven
@geg6: Did you get up to the roof of the Bohemian?
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: I believe he is speaking of some of the Maxine Waters supporters. I say some because others there were disturbed by it and spoke out against it.
Elizabelle
Good morning, guys. Gonna resolve to have a good day, no matter what Trump does.
And think: Paul Manafort is starting his day with powdered eggs, weak coffee, anxiety. And it only goes downhill from here.
Meanwhile jackals roam free.
And do roam over to your local candidate’s/Dem party office and volunteer some time, cuz we are less than 4 months out from The Mid-Terms.
VengeanceVoting is ours.Platonailedit
This, among other possible quid pro quo’s, explains traitorous thug’s choice?
Immanentize
@raven:jealous is not quite the word….
Elizabelle
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Sounds like a great book. Take it it’s YA literature? Anyway, a great premise.
raven
An early morning shot of the riverfront from across the river.
The Ancient Randonneur
Elizabelle
@raven: Savannah? Where are you? Lovely photo.
raven
@Immanentize: Not the best pic because of the watermark but. . .
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: Johnny Winter blows everyone away.
raven
@Elizabelle: I’m home, that’s a few years back. How about this one from the ferry at sunset.
frosty
@Platonailedit: I asked my younger son to help register his friends. He said everyone he knows is already registered. And these are not political kids.
Anecdata.
jimmiraybob
@WereBear:
She’s modeling perfect subservience to male authority. That is allowed.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Elizabelle: Yes, it’s YA. Caine also wrote PRINCE OF SHADOWS, a retelling of “Romeo and Juliet” from the POV of Benvolio, which I like quite a lot.
If you automatically rule out YA, you’re missing good stuff!
Jeffro
@Elizabelle:
I’m trying to decide which of these excellent lines is my favorite. Thanks for the great start to the day!
Immanentize
@raven: Wow. I can’t think of what a modern version of that might be.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: Thanks. I didn’t hear about that. Have we confirmed they were actually supporters.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: From the article:
ETA: so make what you will of them. Just as likely they were bored and decided to do the testosterone strut.
frosty
@Elizabelle: Volunteering: i signed up with Swing Left’s Last Weekend yesterday. Hope it’s coordinated well.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
It’s impossible to tell these days whether people like that are our traditional domestic idiots or Russian backed agitators. But thanks.
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
Shrugging my shoulders.
Muthaphuckas wanna roll up in Da Hood…then they get what they get.
Please note that this isn’t the first time that they have chosen to try and intimidate Waters.
A Ghost To Most
@Immanentize:
Agree. Prog rock synthesizers drove me back to the country side of rock. Autotune similarly alienates me from some otherwise interesting new music.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Yep.
frosty
@Dorothy A. Winsor: You’re right about YA. I loved the series on the Yellowstone volcano that started with Ashfall and I’m just about to start Shipbreakers.
Elizabelle
@rikyrah: I wish so much of the country was not adolescents who need a sex scandal to tune in.
Because the sexual favors are the least of Ms. Butina’s efforts. But it is what it is.
I wish this country would grow the fuck up, but that means giving up the Daddy fantasy, and the “we are so special — no consequences for our [bad/in-]actions.” Think we got some eye-opening times ahead of us.
MomSense
@Aardvark Cheeselog:
They use that language about trump, too. Trump needs to clarify his statement in Helsinki. Really? Clarity was the problem with that statement? Isn’t the real problem that the meaning came through loud and fucking clear and what they really want is for the president and his spokeswall to lie to us and pretend he said something else.
A Ghost To Most
@BruceFromOhio:
Can we explode mini-Rumpenburgs?
tobie
Any Michiganders here this morning? I read that Bernie and Ocasio-Cortez are going to Michigan to campaign for their candidates for governor and Congress (John Conyers old district). Any candidates I should take a special look at? I could throw a few bucks their way.
Elizabelle
@frosty: Yea you!
Our congressional candidate, Abigail Spanberger (up against Ayn Rand fan/Divinity student/economist/Tea Partyin’ Dave Brat) is, I am told, getting some extra media attention because of her CIA background. Have not seen any of the interviews, but if it helps, it helps.
We did a very peaceful candlelight protest outside Dave Brat’s office two nights ago. Don’t know that it accomplished much more than getting us volunteers out in the fresh air and giving some cops some extra work protecting/observing us. But it was fun.
MomSense
@Platonailedit:
Remember to tell the youngs in your acquaintance to BE a voter. The research says that identity is a better motivator.
OzarkHillbilly
@rikyrah:
At some level I agree with you, but every time I see a black person in Sullivan MO I know they are at risk of getting the same treatment. Black people minding their own business is not the same as showing up to troll a protest but we still have freedom of speech in this country.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@frosty: SHIPBREAKERS is awesome. Serious book about environmental damage. Bacigalupi’s adult book THE WATER KNIFE is also about that.
Immanentize
@A Ghost To Most: Oh fuck autotune. It is truly the Devil’s tool to increase his leagues.
ETA. contrast Lake Street Dive. That woman can sing!
Dorothy A. Winsor
@MomSense: When my son turned 18, he was a senior in high school. After school, he worked at the local D HQ doing data input. So on his first election day, he went straight from school to work, and his boss asked him if he’d voted yet. When he said no, she bundled him into her car and drove him to his polling place. She waited in the car, so he was on his own inside, but that event really impressed him. He’s been a voter ever since.
Elizabelle
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I have a friend — formerly a teacher — who has been preferring YA for some time because you get sophisticated plots and writing without some of the extraneous garbage that makes it into “adult” novels.
germy
I’d forgotten all about this one:
Immanentize
@Immanentize:
Lake Street Dive: Rich Girl
Best version evah!
JPL
@tobie: Bernie is going to be on Face the Nation on Sunday. Maybe he’ll update us on Tad Devine’s Russian pals.
MomSense
@raven:
Winter is awesome. Have you seen Gillian Welch? She and Dave Rawlings played in Portland on Wednesday night. My kid and his friends went and said it was a beautiful concert. I think they are about halfway through their tour together.
germy
@JPL: They won’t ask and he won’t tell, I predict.
They’re more interested in his thoughts on… the democrat party.
ruemara
@Baud: *snort* please. You’re gonna be hard pressed to find black folks disagreeing.
Baud
@JPL: Makes me wonder whether his attempted resolution yesterday against Russian interference was intended to innoculate himself against the Devine mess.
raven
@MomSense: Oh yea, they play Athens a good bit/
Just One More Canuck
@debbie: Aaron Copland liked it well enough
polyorchnid octopunch
@NotMax: Lovin’ the old school Habs jersey on the bass player.
Platonailedit
Because it helps him in his 24×7 lies?
danielx
Today’s win for the intertubes.
raven
@MomSense: Here they are with John Paul Jones at the Georgia Theater.
Duane
Obama might have been able to stop Russian sabotage if the Republicans had not literally been in bed with the Russians. Stupid, evil bastards are the Russians.
tobie
@JPL: Bernie’s a media darling because he divides the Dems. No Dem gets the fawning coverage he gets (and he’s not even a member of the party, just aligned with it). I’d be very surprised if he’s grilled about Tad Devine’s history with Manafort or the data hacking his campaign did on Face the Nation. Bernie’s too useful to them. I’ve noticed he is feeling emboldened since Ocasio-Cortez’s victory, and his involvement in Michigan and Kansas is a clear sign he’s jockeying for more institutional power in the Democratic Party. They want Nancy Pelosi’s scalp and I fear they will get it. In the US, the only politician more vilified than Pelosi is Hillary Clinton.
raven
Here’s a pic of a Savannah Hotel on the river.
Baud
@raven: That’s a nice photo.
ruemara
@germy: I hadn’t. Or Tad Devine & superdelegates. Or Greenstreet media, if I recall the shady company correctly.
hueyplong
@Platonailedit: Funny, I saw the phrase “ex-White House stenographer” and got my hopes up that Maggie Haberman had somehow been fired.
tybee
@Betty Cracker: i believe your visa has expired and you won’t be allowed off the interstate.
patrick II
@Baud:
Johnson should have arrested Nixon and everyone involved in sabotaging the Paris talks. He didn’t and it set a lawbreaker’s precedent for republican nominees, including Reagan and Iran, Bush brothers and Florida, and Trump and Russia. If the first one had been handled properly, perhaps there would be no second and third ones with fair warning given to candidates breaking the law, perhaps the next two might not have happened.
If there is no enforcement there is no law.
hueyplong
“In the US, the only politician more vilified than Pelosi is Hillary Clinton.”
What about Maxine Waters, who checks off both boxes? I guess lower name recognition holds her back for now?
frosty
@Elizabelle: The PA Supreme Court busted the R gerrymander because it violated the state constitution. Hence it can’t be appealed to SCOTUS. It resulted in my Tea Party Freedom Caucus rep having a competitive race. I’m out of his district now but I’ll be driving up to York to work for his opponent.
Platonailedit
Wonder if this happens in BC’s household.
frosty
@Dorothy A. Winsor: i’m partway through Water Knife now, as it tuns out.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: Charlie Pierce, of all people, retweeted this
I went through Brownworth’s twitter to see if there was a full article on this for context, the timeframe, etc, but didn’t see one. I imagine if she’s not working on that, someone out there is.
germy
@ruemara: Olde Towne Media, I think it was. The physical location was a little house in the suburbs somewhere.
Yarrow
@germy: Never forgot any of that. Will not forget it either. Russian asset.
Gin & Tonic
@JPL: I don’t want to be that guy, but Devine’s ties to Manafort and Kilimnik are not new news. I’m not sure why it’s a thing now, when this was well-known back in the 2016 primaries/caucuses.
germy
@tobie: I could be wrong, but I think Bernie never personally endorsed Ocasio-Cortez. The group he’s associated with endorsed her, but he insists they’re independent of him.
But after she won her primary, he jumped into the front of the marathon like Rosie Ruiz.
germy
@Gin & Tonic: Now we’re seeing print outs of the phone logs and emails.
“Please re-send talking points” and stuff like that.
tobie
@hueyplong: You’re right. I should have said the only politician more vilified than Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters is Hillary Clinton. The only reason I didn’t include Waters is that I don’t see her job in jeopardy, whereas I do think Nancy will be asked to step down as party leader in the House. If Nancy goes, I’d like to see her do it on her own terms.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’ve never seen him on TV, and he never gets much love from the blogosphere, but Timothy Egan is one of the good things the NYT has done, like Krugman and Michelle Goldberg
EBT
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Ah yes, Romeo & Juliet, the story of a 17 year old killing himself over a 13 year old, 3 days after meeting her.
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
(best reply on twitter)
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
@germy:
I’m kind of hoping Manafort goes to trial so we’ll see the evidence. OTOH, it’s probably better for the country if he decides to cooperate.
Yarrow
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s not curious at all. Tad Devine worked with Paul Manafort in Ukraine. He’s a traitor. As Adam says, penetration at all levels. Might as well get someone who will get a job with supposed Dems to mess up things on that side too.
Yarrow
@germy: Penetration at all levels includes people in the media. I’ve been skeptical of Chris Hayes love affair with Wilmer for some times. I’d put Hayes in the “useful idiot” category at this point, though.
Mike in DC
@Gin & Tonic: Because his name popped up in connection with the Manafort case, and because Wilmer is contemplating doing it all again.
JPL
@Gin & Tonic: If Devine testifies at Manafort’s trial, his connections could become clearer.
danielx
Arrrrgh…..supposed to go see Tedeschi Trucks Band with Drive By Truckers and Marcus King Band tonight (outside) and it’s going to rain/storm all day and into the evening. Boo hiss.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: That’s news to me. Thanks.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: I love it! I’m a Hayes fan but his adoring gaze when he has Wilmer on is more than I can take
Mike in DC
The new Dem slogan, “For the People”, is taking some heat as being a little bit bland. My suggestion is “Oh, from this time forth, My thoughts be bloody, or be nothing worth!”, but I guess it doesn’t fit as well on a bumper sticker.
germy
@Yarrow:
I think the subtle undercover ones are more insidious than the Fox & Friends types we all laugh at.
I remember when Mr. Weinstein’s problems started, it was revealed he had accomplices in the media who purposely wrote unflattering things about his accusers.
And I remember Olivia Nuzzi’s friendship with milo.
chris
Haha! Cartoon of the day.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Gin & Tonic: people were distracted by Susan Sarandon and that fucking bird
ETA: @Mike in DC: one thing you can count on, when the Dems release a new slogan, it will be mocked as tired, worn out, written by committee, uninspiring…. I’m of the opinion that good local candidates talking about health care and a social safety net are a lot more important, but I like the implicit echo of Gore’s “We’re for the people, they’re for the powerful.” It also fits right in with the critique of the failing tax plan
TS (the original)
@Platonailedit:
Quite likely suggested by one of Butina’s friends.
Elizabelle
WaPost headline (have not read the story):
Mister Rogers? I remember Coats as being kinda nasty and partisan on several occasions and issues. But I guess it’s all relative, and there’s a real grading on the curve for Republicans.
That said, he had a charming affect in the short interview clip with Andrea Greenspan yesterday.
And he was nestled among friends. The national security set. You know, the really serious set. (No digs at Adam S or Cheryl, but I think domestic policy is plenty sexy too. And gets continually undervalued.)
ETA: Is Mitch McConnell gonna be Uncle Bill or Captain Kangaroo, if this continues? Warm and cuddly and folksy and non-threatening …. uh, no.
germy
Onion headline:
FBI Reveals Maria Butina Traded Sex In Exchange For All 62,984,828 Votes Trump Received In 2016
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Latest news: that bird was in touch with Manafort. They found text messages.
Elizabelle
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I make a point of ignoring Chris Hayes. Never watch his show. They should give the time slot to Ali Velshi, who is a superb journalist, from what I’ve seen.
And why can’t we bring Martin Bashir back? I forget whatever “scandal” brought him down, but I think (1) he was a solid journalist and (2) everyone is allowed a non-murdering mistake, especially if they learn from it. (This keeps the Judith Millers locked out.) Look at the personal foibles of all these folks that are Villagers or establishment media and they’re welcomed with open arms if they will fellate the Conventional Wisdom.
JimV
Just wanted to say: great post! The “Good Wife” part would have made me laugh in a happier world.
JPL
@germy: She must be in really great shape.
TS (the original)
@JPL:
Why do the 46 democratic party senators rarely, if ever, appear on such shows? It seems ANYONE except a democrat gets air time.
tobie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: There’s some interesting stuff in Victoria Brownworth’s twitter feed. Evidently Bernie was keen on debating Trump directly *after* the Democratic primaries but before the convention as a way of establishing himself as the party’s nominee. Stuff like this makes me think he really is a Leninist at heart–he’ll destroy everything to have his way. The media should be asking him if he’ll throw his full weight behind Democratic candidates for Congress in November, even if they weren’t his pick. That will be the test if he’s in this fight “for the people” or for himself.
germy
Video:
Yarrow
@germy: Yep. Big side eye at Olivia Nuzzi.
O. Felix Culpa
@hueyplong: And what do all three of those politicians have in common
to earn such vilification, I wonder?
Yarrow
@O. Felix Culpa: ‘Tis a puzzle.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@tobie: @ Stuff like this makes me think he really is a Leninist at heart–he’ll destroy everything to have his way.
my theory has been that at some point in early 2016, he got it into his head that he could win and went on the attack against HRC. In my mind, it was the switch from, “I’m sick of hearing about the damn emails” to bellowing about WALL STREET SPEECHES!, which became, and I believe remains, “The Democratic Pawh-ty is a fayl-yuh!”. I confess it’s as much for personal loathing as politics that I hope the Mueller report exposes him as a useful idiot
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Did I bork the blog?
Platonailedit
Anyone else confirming this?
Kathleen
@tobie: He’s already failed that test. And the timing of O C’s entrance is no coincidence. Traitors know that Bernie’s going down and she’s his replacement rat effer.
Elizabelle
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I guess it’s just a summer Friday?
Not having TV, and listening to classical music radio, I am the last to know if something big is going down. I rely on you guys for that.
Kelly
@WereBear:
Clarence Darrow lost. Scopes was fined $100 which he did not pay due to a technicality.
Platonailedit
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The blog has been borked by everyone.
I blame
russiansObama.Baud
@Kathleen:
I’m not Bernie fan, but unless they somehow rigged the timing and votes in the NY primary, it basically is a coincidence.
And since she’s too young to run for president, I don’t see how she could replace Bernie.
tobie
@Kathleen: If that’s the case, I will see if I can phone bank for Davids in Kansas or Whitmer in Michigan (gubernatorial race). I don’t know enough about the local Congressional races in Michigan to get involved. I take nothing for granted any longer.
Gravenstone
@Dorothy A. Winsor: You also would have known better than to try and pet the fucking thing!
Gravenstone
@OzarkHillbilly: Proof readers and editors used to be a thing, right?
MisterForkbeard
Just gonna sneak this in here: NPR continues to be awful, with an article entitled “Is Trump the Toughest Ever On Russia?”: https://www.npr.org/2018/07/20/630659379/is-trump-the-toughest-ever-on-russia
I like how this ends, after listing the 2-3 things Trump has done that are anti-Russia:
We… have documentary evidence of Trump being dragged kicking and screaming through sanctions, expelling diplomats that were instantly replaced, etc. What the hell, NPR?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: I like AOC. Her optimism and commitment to her beliefs is IMHO a necessary contrast, and potentially a corrective, to Wilmer’s weaponized sanctimony. That weird fight with Crowley last week suggests she might need to break out the rose-twitter world a bit, but overall she seems to have good instincts.
Gravenstone
@Betty Cracker: A quick look tells me they use ammonium bicarbonate rather than sodium bicarbonate for the leavening. No worries about any ammonia being left behind. When the carbonate gives up its CO2 to leaven the batter, the miniscule amount of ammonia present will just boil off.
PVDMichael
RT (so take this with a grain of salt) is reporting Ecuador is going to turn Julian Assange over to the Brits…
schrodingers_cat
@MisterForkbeard: National Politburo reporting
Elizabelle
That duck boat sinking in Lake of the Ozarks (Branson, MO) is a real tragedy. Trump, of course, has already sent out a gracious, God-mentioning tweet. Since it happened in a dark red state.
What all the stories I’ve skimmed don’t report: were the drowning victims wearing life jackets or not? Boat was mandated to have them; storm did not come up immediately (although sounds like bad judgment to be out on the lake when that storm was expected).
Kansas City Star: 13 dead after duck boat capsized on Table Rock Lake; 4 remain missing
There’s video from the second boat that did make it back to shore. Storm is tossing the duck boat around. The passengers are not in life jackets. What is up with these stupid tour operators?
I hope the Nanny State comes down on them, hard. Children died. Some may have died wearing life jackets, but it is harder.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I’ve learned not to invent or predict heroes. I hope she ends up being a positive force. Too early for me to tell.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@MisterForkbeard: Daniel Vadjich? Who’s he? Oh, a senior fellow at The Atlantic Council? Why, what a nice and neutral and important sounding position…
Oh, look, google
geg6
@raven:
No, we didn’t. I was still with my ex and we went there with friends from Atlanta. We were only there for two and a half days (New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day plus a half day to get there from Atlanta) and we pretty much had the whole thing scheduled to the max due to the tight schedule. We had a group of people we were meeting up with to watch the Steeler game with and then New Year’s Eve reservations at a restaurant the name of which escapes me right now and another meet-up with another group of friends who we spent NYE with, going up and down River Street from bar to bar and just joining in with the general hilarity. That street party reminded me a lot of Bourbon Street…just music and booze and lots of partiers. New Year’s Day was pretty quiet for us (we were nursing small hangovers), but we had a lovely time at the B&B most of the day. I’ve been back once or twice since, but always on business. That was the only I was there for leisure and it was great.
MisterForkbeard
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: That’s generally my opinion too. I like her and she’s uplifting rather than… crabby and yelling, but she’s also displayed a really worrying tendency to shoot from the hip and assume the craziest people on the left are correct. The thing with Crowley was a prime example of how NOT to handle a political situation.
Crowley wasn’t actually running for WFP and she should have known that. Instead, now she’s inspired a whole bunch of “Democrats are awful” articles and gotten quislings like Lieberman to try and push a Crowley run that isn’t happening. She’s made herself look good at the expense of the broader party and movement, and that’s super worrying.
MomSense
@germy:
I don’t give a crap about AOC and I don’t have to hold my nose and vote for her so I can happily ignore her – until she goes to other districts to sow discord and division. Also WTF why would you campaign against a woman who could be the first First American to serve in Congress?
Note to progressives, one well produced video does not a champion make.
MisterForkbeard
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah. He was noted as a “Trump Defender” and someone at an important sounding “defense” think tank.
They didn’t cite any opposing viewpoints, but did note repeatedly that Trump’s actual words and direct actions were very Russian friendly.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@EBT:
Einstein and Shakespeare
Sitting having a beer
Einstein trying to figure out the number that adds up to this
Shakespeare said, “Man it all starts with a kiss”
Einstein is scratching
Numbers on his napkin
Shakespeare said, “Man, it’s just one and one make three
Ah, that’s why it’s poetry”
–Bruce Springsteen
L85NJGT
@TS (the original):
Because the Sunday morning shows are anachronisms that no one watches in the age of the 24 hour news cycle.
Miss Bianca
@satby: I am. I’m binge-reading the Vorkosigan Saga and doing as little actual work as humanly possible. Everything just seems so fucking overwhelming right now.
Gin & Tonic
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The Atlantic Council is actually a fairly non-partisan and generally pro-Ukrainian and pro-EU think tank in the US.
Baud
@MomSense:
I wonder if The Intercept will have an article about how Bernie people aren’t supporting women and minorties, like the articles they write about Dems.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@OzarkHillbilly: I accept the data. I’d like to believe Ds are just inherently more virtuous, but I don’t know.
Gin & Tonic
Sarah Kendzior re-upped this today, but for those who want some good background on Butina, this (long) Twitter thread from last November is very good.
trollhattan
@Elizabelle:
I’ll shinny out on this limb to speculate Missouri killed and buried their nanny decades ago. “Accidents happen.”
Taking one of those things out, fully (over?)loaded with storms in the region is nevertheless absurd and should not have happened.
We were just in Seattle and a couple different duck boats tried to mow us down in our little rental car, downtown. Officially not a fan.
geg6
@frosty:
Same here (Beaver County). We get Connor Lamb running against Keith Rothfus. I am cautiously optimistic.
Gravenstone
@PVDMichael: Grain? I’d take the whole damned mine before I’d believe anything from RT on its face.
Miss Bianca
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Paolo’s an old bud from my Paonia days. Every time I think about how far he’s come from the times I saw him scribbling at the Moonrise Cafe, I smile and and smile.
geg6
@Gin & Tonic:
It’s a thing because his name has come up in documents Mueller submitted regarding the exhibit list for the Manafort trial.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
Ok, so it happened under Obama’s watch. Leaving aside Mitch McConnel threatened to make it a partisan issue, he’s not president anymore, Trump is. Russian meddling is still on going. Checkmate, Sarah.
California Stars
Is the open-thread dead? I’ve got an embarrassing tech question that I’m guessing a savvy BJer can resolve in a hot second. I work off my mac pro, but recently started using an HP screen and Microsoft keyboard to save my eyes and wrists. I’m often toggling between applications and on my laptop keyboard I can just press F3 to see all the files I’ve got open on the desktop. Can’t figure out an equivalent on the Microsoft keyboard. I can reach over to my laptop and the F3 function will work on both the laptop screen and the big screen simultaneously, but that’s kind of a pain given the number of times I wish to perform this function as I work. The only F key on my Microsoft keyboard that does anything noticeable on the big screen is F11, which simply clears all windows from the screen (not helpful). Any ideas?
Miss Bianca
@germy: Yep. Oh, but I just got scolded on the Book of Faces for bringing up the fact that he’s in the evidence list: wasn’t I the one that was calling for Democrats to stop bashing each other?
I’m just going to be sitting over here, waiting, for the news to leak out that Tad Devine and Paul Manafort were still working together – to bring down the one candidate for POTUS that Vlad really feared.
California Stars
@Elizabelle: So horrible. When I read this I recalled that duck boats were recently banned from touring in SF because they did not meet safety standards.
Doug R
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I’ve seen them at the zoo, glad that cage is there. The eagle on the desk was a sign of stupidity more than anything.
Elizabelle
@trollhattan: Tis God’s will those 13-17 people drowned, not far from shore and a nearby paddlewheeler (looks like). In 2018. In Branson, MO.
To your knees, red staters. Believe in Sky King, and not The Nanny State.
Elizabelle
@California Stars: You know, given that you only have to board once, on land, I wonder if Duck Boats transport a lot of people who might have a hard time entering a boat moored at a dock. Maybe yes, maybe no.
But this has happened before, even in Missouri. They don’t sound safe.
Might need to replace them with safer boats. ($$$)
L85NJGT
@California Stars:
Their loss rate is perfectly acceptable for a WWII amphibious operation.
trollhattan
@California Stars:
Jeez. In Windows you can use the Windows key+tab or alt+tab, but IDK how a Mac will respond.
schrodingers_cat
@Mike in DC: At this point when one party is ready to sell us all down the river for economic gain. I don’t take people who have frivolous concerns against Ds seriously.
Baud
@L85NJGT: If it’s good enough for veterans….
tracy ratclif
@Miss Bianca: Do you have the latest novella, “The Flowers of Vashnoi”? Not the best of the series but a nice little story of Ekaterin and Dr Enrique Borgos in the backwoods of Vorkosigan’s district.
schrodingers_cat
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Let’s not call attack on our democracy, meddling. Meddling is too cute a word for that.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@California Stars: Sometimes the keyboards default to alternate functions rather than the function keys, that can be changed in the keyboard driver programs in Windows. Check to see if there’s a ‘fn’ key or something like that at the bottom row of keys.
LAO
Holy Guacamole:
wjs
Hello! One typo – it should be spelled ‘Klan’
Elizabelle
@LAO: Yeah, just coming here to post that.
I was kinda hoping it was the playmate allegedly impregnated by Broidy.
Is
ourRed State America’s President a liar? Perish the thought.germy
@Miss Bianca:
Divine reached out to Manafort to arrange debates between Bernie and Donald. Donald toyed with Bernie for a few days before saying it’d be inappropriate.
LAO
@Elizabelle: Well, and he certainly would never have a “relationship” with a woman outside of marriage.
Kelly
@Elizabelle: Exit after capsize may be difficult. I wonder how many of the dead could not get out.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Vichy Times has found another idiot (Sarah Smarsh) to blame Ds for working class woes. The unspoken assumption is that working class is white and male and she is a Bernie sister. Just checked the headlines to see what the paper of record, so called, is saying.
hedgehog the occasional commenter
@satby: I am right there with you. It really feels like a waking nightmare; I feel like I’m in a fog. Hard to concentrate at work or home.
The meetup Tuesday helped ground me–thank you, jackals.
@Miss Bianca: mr. h loves the books, as do a lot of folk I know, and it seems like a series I’d enjoy. (heads off to add to Kindle)
Baud
@LAO: If there’s one recording, there are probably others.
SFBayAreaGal
@Immanentize: My mom and I agree with you 100%. One of my favorite pieces by him.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@LAO: OH in the Residence this morning: “Barron! Call attorney! We rewrite post-nup and move more cash to Lichtenstein before that bitch Ivanka burn old man’s will!”
Miss Bianca
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: YOU could do that spade work, and NPR couldn’t?
bemused
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I love this sentence, “Trump supporters know who’s their Vladdy”
Miss Bianca
@tracy ratclif: Nope, still re-working my way thru’ “A Civil Campaign”, which was the first one I ever read – ever so much more satisfying the second time round, now that I know who all the players are!
Kelly
Idiot has been google bombed. ;-)
MisterForkbeard
@LAO: Does that actually matter? Everyone KNOWS Trump paid off these women. Whether or not it’s legally proven seems to be… kind of minor unless this leads to something I can’t think of.
Elizabelle
@MisterForkbeard: It’s more evidence that Trump lies, and this was happening two months before the election. It is proof of a conversation that Trump has denied.
Elizabelle
NPR reports divers pulled out the remaining 4 bodies from the duck boat tragedy. 17 dead; everyone accounted for. 31 were on board (29 passengers; 2 crew.)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@MisterForkbeard: I tend to agree, if this is Cohen’s biggest secret, it’s not that big a deal. But there is an ick factor that may chip away at a certain kind of Republican-leaning tote-bagger, a few more straws added to the bales of Russia and corruption and the horrors on the border.
Elizabelle
@Kelly: Right. Good question.
wjs
@Elizabelle: I still dont know why these vehicles are allowed to operate. I can remember seeing one that had rolled over at the Wisconsin Dells. That was 1978. All vehicles are dangerous. Of course, but the DUKWs have always seemed unnecessarily dangerous to me.
LAO
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Well, I’m quite certain that the tape doesn’t represent Cohen’s biggest secret but time will tell.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@LAO: trump’s reaction to the seizure of Cohen’s stuff certainly suggests there’s more to it than this. I was wondering about the restrictions on these tapes, beyond the current legal situation.> Once a resolution is reached, either a trial or a plea or ?? , does Cohen own them? Can he release them to whom he wants, when he wants?
Miss Bianca
@hedgehog the occasional commenter: Oh, you won’t be disappointed, I assure you!
It was really nice to see you again at the meet-up – was hoping we’d have a chance to chat more, but *darn* my seat-mates! They kept me fully occupied! Jackals are just too much fun to talk to!
john b
@NotMax:
sadly having a current debate about the location of the 2020 RNC convention (guess where I live), it came to my attention that RNC conventions show a surge in human trafficking (as do most large gatherings of people, but with the RNC it is quite pronounced) in the areas where they occur.
J R in WV
@danielx:
supposed to go see Tedeschi Trucks Band with Drive By Truckers and Marcus King Band tonight (outside) and it’s going to rain/storm all day and into the evening.
Susan Tedeschi is right up there with the gods of rock guitar in my book. I like Derek Trucks too, but he’s more the “dazzle them with more notes” than a “kill them with a melody” type musician. She makes the band in my book. They are awesome! Have been here in our small concert hall a couple of times. Gr
J R in WV
@danielx:
Susan Tedeschi is right up there with the gods of rock guitar in my book. I like Derek Trucks too, but he’s more the “dazzle them with more notes” than a “kill them with a melody” type musician. She makes the band in my book. They are awesome! Have been here in our small concert hall a couple of times. Great blues shows every few months.
Aleta
@john b: Same has been documented for areas after the installation/expansion of military bases and military R&R spots. (First published by Asian women activists in the 60s, afaik.) It’s so familiar that we take it for granted w/o realizing the depth of effect on community strength and politics.
J R in WV
Comment # 259 was an edit of comment # 258 to add the blockquotes… dunno how it became it’s own comment when I saved the edit.
Anyways, love me some of Susan Tedeschi’s music. Plus she’s more my type than Derek… ;-)
Dan B
@trollhattan: Sheesh! Sorry, but not surprised, to hear about you close calls with the Duck boats. They’ve been in the news again over a lawsuit over a fatal accident on the Aurora Bridge. Killed a number of exchange students in a bus. The Duck had nearly non-existent maintenance and lost control on the scary high bridge with very narrow lanes. Seattle tourism did fine before the Ducks. Wish we could find a way to eliminate them.
California Stars
@trollhattan:
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Arigato, both. I pushed the “FN” switch (oddly, it’s not a button) from white to blue and tried windows/tab, and in both cases an applications menu bar pops up…which would also work for what I need to do…but it only shows on my laptop screen! *sigh*
The positive thing about the news being so heart-stoppingly horrible every day is that I become far less stressed about dumb tech/household things. So I’m just going to leave it at that this morning. Thanks for your advice.
Dan B
@California Stars: There’s hope for Seattle. Life after Ducks!
California Stars
@Elizabelle: That’s a very good point. The only person I ever knew who took a duck boat tour in the SF Bay was a neighbor/friend who had bum joints and a somewhat hard time getting around, and likely would’ve had a hard time onboarding any of the regular tour boats. She had a grand time.
Now that I google, I’m finding that duck tours are available in the bay now, so maybe they were only shut down temporarily.
Dan B
@California Stars: There’s hope for Seattle. Life after Ducks!@Elizabelle: The issue with Ducks seems to be maintenance. They operate in Seattle in summer so there are lots of temp hires and don’t seem to attract steady mgmt.
Dan B
@schrodingers_cat: Good point. The “working class” in US is mostly non white and non male, women of color. But, Identity Politics!! must not offend!
Sigh…
Reality takes a long time to sink in, so we keep repeating: working class does not = white males, like it did in the 50s.
Dan B
@MisterForkbeard: Good observation! It would fit with Lakoff’s conservative = strong father. Strong father means obey don’t question or criticize. Hence we get Trump supporters who become enraged at any hint from us that Trump is flawed. The problem for them is “strong father” is close to “alpha male” but not synonymous. And it’s close to cheating-man bad-dad.
EthylEster
@Betty Cracker: does it still smell like a paper pulp mill?