Trump is so pleased with the outcome of the last summit that he’s asking Putin to join him in DC for another:
Reuters: US President Trump has asked National Security Adviser Bolton to invite Russian President Putin to Washington DC in the fall, per White House spokesperson
— Patrick deHahn (@patrickdehahn) July 19, 2018
Assuming the White House doesn’t issue a correction stating that Trump asked Bolton to NOT invite Putin to hole up in the Emoluments Suite of the Trump International Hotel Washington, DC, we Americans will have an opportunity to stage a massive protest to express our displeasure with the foreign autocrat who conspired to install a buffoon in the Oval Office.
The UK activists behind the Trump Baby blimp from the London protests (was that really just last week?!?) have given permission for Americans to make a fleet of the blimps to follow Trump around the US. They’d be ideal for the DC protest. Maybe someone can design a Putin blimp too. Hey, it beats giant puppet heads.
Anyhoo, one wonders what the fuck Trump is thinking. Breaking news reports say the second summit is planned for this fall. Maybe Trump thinks another summit will dissipate the stench from the Helsinki Humiliation before the midterm elections? Maybe it was Putin’s suggestion?
I have no idea. But if the Beltway isn’t a gigantic sea of angry humanity during Putin’s visit, I’ll be disappointed in us.
Open thread.
Bailey
Apparently the visit was news to DNI Coats.
Great communication, guys.
germy
Isn’t this obstruction of justice?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’m sure the video will be all over twitter before I hit post
We’ll see. Should be. I wouldn’t bet on it.
ETA: Mad props, Betty, for “Emoluments Suite”
?BillinGlendaleCA
I guess the annual review didn’t go well, so the boss has scheduled a followup.
Yarrow
Everything’s sped up so much this week that I find myself saying, “Was that really just yesterday?” a lot.
From the article linked about the Trump baby balloons, there’s a GoFundMe to make it happen! Edit: Aww…looks like they’ve stopped donations. For a good reason–they were overrun with them.
PaulWartenberg
just to note, to the protest groups for DC you BETTER get the paperwork in toot-sweet before trump and the GOP try to block ANY protests for that visit.
Yarrow
@germy: Yes. Yes, it is.
Elizabelle
I was waiting for my favorite visual to re-appear. Thanks Betty! I think we will get a lot of use out of that photo. Crazy brilliant mashup.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I have got to see video of that.
You cannot make this shit up. You just can’t.
Teddys Person
Via Trump Tweet seen at LGF:
In a just world, Trump would have a job scrapping gum off the underside of table at TGIF.
Baud
Reminds me of when Hitler visited Paris after it fell to the Nazis.
trollhattan
Find myself wondering how much belligerent neocon terror/cold-warrior Bolton likes his new role of Putin and all-things-Russia embraser. Does he give pause at all, or is he an all-in Trumpist now? It’s not as though he could sink any lower on my estimation of him as a human being, just surprised at how malleable his purported belief system is proving. Does he now hate all other nations but Russia instead of simply all other nations?
Joyce Harmon
I’m going to need a couple weeks advance notice. I didn’t grow tomatoes this year, so I need some time to buy some from the store – and let them rot.
Yarrow
@PaulWartenberg: Wouldn’t be surprised if the visit time is coordinated with Republican groups who submit paperwork first before it’s announced so people can’t protest.
Arclite
Trump gotta make sure he’s doing enough to keep Vlad from releasing the pee tape. Gotta check in a couple times a year.
PaulWartenberg
trump isn’t even listening to the horrified feedback about that Hellsinking trip he just pulled.
the worst case possible scenarios of having Putin anywhere NEAR the White House just piles up.
is this invite going to happen in OCTOBER?! does trump really believe he’s going to win back all the independent voters he’s been losing for the GOP since 2017? does he really think the voter suppression efforts by his Republican buddies are going to stop ALL of us from rushing to the ballot boxes in November and voting this complicit criminal GOP OUT OF POWER?
PaulWartenberg
and would it kill anybody to nuke that goddamn popup ad that slides in from the side of the blog ALL the damn time?!
Elizabelle
Betty: do you have a link for the Trumpenburg illustration? I so want to share it on my FB page.
NotMax
Repeating from downstairs.
Gives Dolt 45 an excuse to make a big show out of permitting the re-opening of the dacha in Maryland.
agorabum
Good, I’m glad he invited Putin and I hope Putin comes. The more he rubs his obsequiousness to a murdering dictator in the face of the American people, the more people get outraged. Even some Republicans had their stomachs turned by the last performance.
We already know he’s either the biggest useful idiot in history or a traitor, so all such a visit will do is serve as a reminder of that fact on video.
Bostonian
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I think he put Trumpski on a Performance Improvement Plan.
NotMax
OT.
Betty, IIRC you once mentioned you were a fan of Nordic noir. Dunno if you saw the mention of a series on Netflix which might be up your alley.
dmsilev
The thought of the GO leadership collectively hyperventilating as they consider a Trump Putin summit a couple of weeks before the midterms brings some joy to my afternoon.
Joyce Harmon
Putin’s too smart to come to the US. He knows darn well he wouldn’t be safe. And permits or no permits, the protests over a Putin visit would be ENORMOUS. And probably violent. People are ANGRY.
JWL
Trump is playing his last cards. This invitation to Putin is in fact a test to see which congressional republicans he can extort to blindly support him while the extorting is good, i.e., before November’s’s elections. It’s all good news for him on that front, of course. But it’s also a huge “fuck you, Barack Obama, Bill Cinton, and Jimmy Carter”, a taunting gauntlet thrown at the feet of all three former democratic presidents, a demand to keep their fucking mouths shut about what they’ve undoubtedly deduced about his blatant treason. Sooner or later, they’ll have to call his bluff, too. Or so I still trust.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Wonder if Vlad will do a little jig in front of the Washington Monument.
Cheryl Rofer
Arclite
@Bostonian: What are the Key Performance Indicators (KPIs) Trump needs to hit to get a passing grade?
Roger Moore
Wouldn’t it normally be the Secretary of State who would arrange a visit from a foreign head of state, rather than the National Security Advisor? This just seems incredibly irregular.
A Ghost To Most
I do so love that pic.
Oh, the (in)humanity.
Mai Naem mobile
Forget mcfaul I’d like to just hand over Trumpov. Let Putin interrogate him. Trumpov looked like was shitting his pants on Monday standing next to him during the press conference.
Brachiator
Can we petition to include the Trump Baby blimp in the president’s upcoming parade?
ETA: Also, we gotta have it for the next Pasadena California Doo Dah Parade.
NotMax
Maybe Dolt 45 will try to get him to tag along to one of those rallies, so we can witness yuuge crowds of ‘Murkins cheering the president of Russia. //
?BillinGlendaleCA
@dmsilev: Maybe Trump will have him over when they have his big military parade, that should impress the boss.
HinTN
@PaulWartenberg: It makes Cole money. It just started appearing on my android and I’m already inured to just making it go away (and half the time I fatfinger it to launch, which I assume earns even more for our host).
Teddys Person
Just can’t keep up with responses to Trump’s clusterfuck
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Belafon
Putin’s balloon should be of him on the back of a corgi.
Calouste
@Roger Moore: It’s also abnormal to have two summits in three months. Specially as there isn’t really any major topic to discuss.
Elizabelle
@Cheryl Rofer: It’s all a big joke to them.
Also, it’s an invite. Not a done deal.
Got to say, Andrea Mitchell looks rather fetching in that dress.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Arclite: Returning Alaska might help.
hells littlest angel
Highlight of the fall summit will be when Trump shows of the new tattoo on the small of his back: “VLAD’S”
Yeah, for a few seconds. Then one remembers one values one’s sanity.
germy
@Brachiator: The trumpbaby balloon is such a fine work of art. So much loving detail. The cell phone in one hand, the unpleasant mouth sneer, the little nipples, the belly…
If it appears in this country I wonder if some MAGAHat will take a potshot at it. Might be alarming to see it flying around backwards before crash landing. But this is what we’ve been watching the actual POTUS do.
Lapassionara
@Baud: My thought also. Now all we need is a photo of him dancing a little jig of happiness.
Cain
@germy:
Start doing buy ads and pelt Nunes home district. Get that asshole out of there.
dmsilev
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Isn’t that supposed to be in November, on Veteran’s Day? I assume by then Trump will have had his daughter design him a special military uniform patterned after all the best Third World dictators. Lots of gold medals.
Shell
The Fall? Will Putin be a guest at Trumps military parade?
Lapassionara
@?BillinGlendaleCA: that’ll teach me to post before reading the thread.
Baud
@Teddys Person: They’re targeting Baud! 2020!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Lapassionara: Heh.
Gin & Tonic
@Roger Moore:
You can’t even see normal in the rear-view mirror anymore.
eric
@Elizabelle: but, if you invite him and he does not come, then you are his bitch. if he does come, then motivate those dem voters.
ha, well played donald.
NotMax
@dmsilev
Ivanka: “I want something like what Elvis wore in Vegas. Only gold, and with more glitz. Daddykins will be so proud.”
hells littlest angel
@Shell: Trump will be wearing a gift from Putin, a little fur hat.
different-church-lady
@Teddys Person: The part that gets confusing is when he says, “See, I’m acting no differently than this person I’ve been calling horrible and crooked for years!” and somehow thinks that’s a win.
jl
Everyone needs their personal Trump baby blimp. About the size of a backpack (I think you’re supposed to say ‘breadbox’, but I’m too young to remember ever seeing one). Then everyone can drag it around behind them as they tool about town, or across the river and over the hills, for the rural BJ commenters.
Each one would need some helium. So maybe could make it part of an official Trump program, tie it into infrastructure week, and help with the Trump industrial renaissance.
Edit: don’t need much helium, since as I think on it, perfectly fine and fitting for them to slowly deflate, and eventually we all just drag them around on the ground behind us.
But a critical mass of them do need to be inflated enough to half-way float during important events and visits by foreign dignitaries.
different-church-lady
@hells littlest angel:
different-church-lady
@jl:
Pussy hats are so last year.
NotMax
@hells littlest angel
“No, those not antennas on hat. Those claws from mighty Russian bear!”
:)
Leto
@PaulWartenberg: I continually ask for this. It makes the mobile experience horrid, and dog help you if you’re on a computer that does have an adblock installed.
Teddys Person
Maybe Mark will get some private time with Putin this fall.
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Marcopolo
Well, if Putin did come to the US it would be convenient for Mueller. He could whip out that sealed indictment a few minutes after Putyput gets off the plane…
R-Jud
I was at the London protest and I can’t believe it was less than a week ago. Feels like years. Here’s one of my pictures of the mini-Trump baby.
jl
@different-church-lady: Could combine them. A pussy hat and a slowly sinking half-deflated Trump baby blimp probably could be interpreted to mean something or other. I’ll have to think on it some more.
Brachiator
@JWL:
Trump is saying “Fuck you to America, and the democracy you rode in one.” No living president, Republican or Democrat, is happy with Trump. And almost all the dead presidents are rolling in their graves like a motherfucker.
Even the ghost of Benedict Arnold is going, “Damn, Trump, that’s some treasonous shit you’re pulling.”
Teddys Person
@jl: Calling all knitters.
RedDirtDirl
@NotMax: If you’re talking about Fallet, I am planning on checking it out this evening!
Teddys Person
@different-church-lady: I’ve spent the past few days thinking that it must be nice living in your own reality. I’m stuck in the one we’ve got.
NotMax
@jl
Appreciate that the designers went with a cellphone gripped in the hand as opposed to something genitalic.
Elizabelle
@Teddys Person: I think I would attach a little Turtle McConnell at a strategic point on the diaper. Or stick its nose up the rear end.
“Any crappy Orange yarn.” Ayup.
Brachiator
And Bolton didn’t resign immediately?
Leto
@Brachiator: saw that too, no mention of the Bush twins. Although the spawn did gaze deep into Pooty-poot’s soul…
jl
@Teddys Person: I remember reading that some of the Comstock Lode Silver Kings, the guys who found the silver and founded the Virginia Mining Company, turned out to be idiots. Fabulously wealthy idiots, but idiots all the same. Not sure what brought that to mind right now.
One of them was saved by his wife, who was smart, and ran everything and made the decisions. Not sure what brought that to my mind right now either.
I need refresh my memory on the Silver Kings.
Frankensteinbeck
Visiting his buddy Putin was so great. Putin has reporters he doesn’t like executed, and does all kinds of great things for Trump. He got to have a private talk and go on stage with the toughest guy ever! And they’re friends, right Vlad? How dare those jerks on TV say that he shouldn’t be friends with Vlad. He’s going to invite his best buddy Vlad over for a sleepover!
I’m baby-talking it up a bit, but that’s the sentiment.
@different-church-lady:
Trump was already an asshat.
Teddys Person
@Elizabelle: I’m not a knitter but will say get on that stat!!
dmsilev
@Brachiator: He can’t resign yet; he’s still looking forward to starting at least one war.
TenguPhule
Is it too early to speculate that Trump has invited Putin to allow Russia to help provide security for November?
A Ghost To Most
@NotMax: A gold-plated codpiece, I’m sure.
Roger Moore
@Arclite:
1) Ending sanctions
2) Ending sanctions
3) Ending sanctions
Withdrawing from NATO would help, but ending sanctions is really where the action is.
The Midnight Lurker
@PaulWartenberg: I hate it too. It gets in the way. But it’s the old man’s money pump so we’re pledged to protect it with our lives.
NotMax
@A Ghost To Most
“Cod? No, make it a whalepiece, dammit!”
jl
@Cheryl Rofer: Repeat of my request from previous thread:
@PressSec
In Helsinki, @POTUS agreed to ongoing working level dialogue between the two security council staffs. President Trump asked @Ambjohnbolton to invite President Putin to Washington in the fall and those discussions are already underway.
https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1020033303351619584
What exactly does ‘ongoing working level dialogue between the two security council staffs’ mean? Don’t we do that already to try to keep WWIII at bay if somebody is hungover and slumps over onto some missile attack alert panel?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl:
You’ve never seen a breadbox? Young punk.
Turner Hedenkoff
But he’ll see everything! He’ll see the Big Board!
Yarrow
@Teddys Person: Aw, that’s cute. Treasonbook guy thought that story wouldn’t get out.
jl
@NotMax: There are work arounds. If everyone has one of their owns, someone will get the signifiers just right. You can bet on it.
Teddys Person
More Facebook bullshit
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Yarrow
@Brachiator: Ha ha. Bolton resign immediately. As if.
A Ghost To Most
@NotMax: I’m sure it will be bigly yooge.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: We have an advanced industrial economy up here in Northern California. We hail our bread and avocado toasts with smart phones.
Could you post a pic of one of those ‘breadboxes’ you quaint people use down there in SoCal?
TriassicSands
Oh, the inhumanity!!!
Trump is the synthesis of Fat Man and Little Boy — Fat Boy. Unlike Fat Man and Little Boy, Fat Boy is a dud.
TenguPhule
@PaulWartenberg:
Yes, yes he does.
And it doesn’t matter if its just by a single seat, they are bound and determined not to submit to a Democratic majority. Come what may.
The Midnight Lurker
@Roger Moore: This is key. Putin has to get the sanctions lifted before the midterms. He’s got to get his gangster buddies money moving or they’re going to get bored with him. And Putin just ain’t as popular with the folks back home as we are led to believe.
Know this — they are going to pull out ALL the stops before November. Trump and the GOP will DO ANYTHING to remain in power. They have to. Their very lives depend on it. Anything is possible.
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
Bolton only wants to go to war with countries not able to have him killed slowly and painfully.
Cheryl Rofer
@jl: I don’t have first-person information on this, but from what I see, only the Defense Department and the Russian MInistry of Defense are in continuing communication. State, NSC, and I do know that scientific interactions have been seriously curtailed, not happening. Defense presumably is keeping track of the misadventures that might result in nuclear war.
And I would guess that the telephone line between Trump and Putin is still operating, for a last resort.
The Midnight Lurker
@Turner Hedenkoff: You can’t fight in here! This is the war room!
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I don’t see one AI bread box on Amazon. I don’t understand them.;
TenguPhule
@Calouste:
The final terms of surrender need to be dictated and signed.
NotMax
@jl
Spent nearly a full minute debating on whether to go with genitalic or vaginistic.
Retirees got scads of free time, don’tcha know.
:)
Thoughtful David
@Yarrow: Wouldn’t be much of a protest if a little thing like lack of a permit stopped it. I’ll go get arrested. I hope we can have enough to block all the streets and saturate the paddy wagons.
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
Not as comforting as you may have intended that to sound.
rikyrah
Schatz (@emjbourne) Tweeted:
@kylegriffin1 ???????????
#BREAKING: Microsoft says Putin’s Russia tried to hack 3 different 2018 US midterm candidates.
Our elections are under attack & Trump yesterday publicly denied it.
https://t.co/JjWOvsWnTU https://twitter.com/emjbourne/status/1020028519101984768?s=17
jl
@Cheryl Rofer: Thanks. Will be ‘interesting’ to see what this is about.
Trump is proud of his prowess at setting up cheap real estate deals, so when Congress allocates money to put them up in a refurbished barn out by, say, I dunno, Bethel WV, he’ll probably go along.
Bnad
@TenguPhule: No US troops would ever fire on US voters, but Trump’s new comrades in unmarked green uniforms might.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: I don’t have a picture*, but my mother had a breadbox. We were testing rocket engines down here while y’all were tripping on acid up there.
*You young punks wouldn’t know this, but pictures were expensive and shots were not to be wasted. You had to buy film and then have it developed. You never knew until you got the slides back if you got it right. That could take months.
The Midnight Lurker
@NotMax:
“Retirees got scads of free time, don’tcha know”
Heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee!
Gaffer
@PaulWartenberg: adblock plus
KsSteve
My money is the visit occurring on or about Nov 10 so Putin can be here for the Dumbass and Thief’s military parade. If so $12 million ain’t going to cut it. Any idea what it would cost to to put an aircraft carrier in the Lincoln Reflecting Pool?
Tenar Arha
@trollhattan: Islamaphobia beats Russophobia bc of white supremacy rules probably have something to do with it. For Bolton, getting a war with Iran seems more important to him, but who knows.
Mike in NC
If somebody markets a smaller version of the Baby Trump balloon, I’ll buy one just to display on the front lawn on national holidays.
NotMax
@Cheryl Rofer
(translated from the Russian) “Your call is very important to us. Estimated wait time is 88 minutes. Please stay on the line.” (State Anthem of the Russian Federation plays in background)
TenguPhule
@Bnad:
I wouldn’t bet my life on that. Not now.
piratedan
if we’re able to take our country back at the ballot box (hacking and voter suppression willing), my curiosity wonders if the Dem Boy club will allow Nancy Smash to go into full Righteousness mode on these GOP traitors and lock them up in those for profit prisons they love so much and seize all of their assets. They should be allowed to live and watch how the Dems diligently work to unfuck everything that they have done and codify all of the “norms” that we understood and lived by into the law of the land.
jl
@Tenar Arha: For a guy like Bolton, sometimes you have to settle for the war you get, not the war want. Or maybe, all the wars you’ve wished for, is more accurate..
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: While I don’t have a photo of a breadbox, I do have a photo of the California State Capitol in infrared that I took on Tuesday.
Mary G
@Cheryl Rofer: Love the eyeroll/grimace Coats does when she says “The White House has announced on Twitter.”
“Oh God, now what?”
cope
@Arclite: Trump got a “needs improvrment” in Oral Pleasuring Skills.
piratedan
@TenguPhule: Kent State… anyone? Buehler? anyone?
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Thanks. Very pretty. Looks like that in regular non space alien light sometimes in Winter, after a heavy frost.
And BTW, 99 degrees is not ‘hot’ for Central Valley. Just want to make sure you get that FYI.
WaterGirl
@HinTN: There’s enough stress every minute of this presidency – we don’t need obnoxious ads on BJ. Cole should just ask us for money.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: It’s toasty, but I’ve been in the Central Valley when it’s been hotter. We used to travel though there on our way up north to God’s Country(aka the Pacific Northwest).
jl
What this country needs, in time for the upcoming Putin visit, is a personal sized Trump-Putin balloon package. A Trump baby blimp on a leash, and a Putin evil genius blimp holding the leash.
I could think of other configurations that might be easier to make and manage, but I’m just throwing the general concept out there for discussion.
Edit: A Putin burping baby Trump blimp would be nice too. It would be civil, which is a very important point in its favor. Emphasizes the value of family.
joel hanes
@Bnad: @Bnad:
No US troops would ever fire on US voters
Tin soldiers and Nixon’s coming
We’re finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio
Elizabelle
@jl: That’s the perfect configuration.
The Dangerman
@dmsilev:
If it hasn’t already been said, excellent Freudian Slip.
NotMax
@jl
How about “Time For A Change” spelled out on the diaper.
p.a.
There will be more meetings: at each one PootyPoot collects an Infinity Stone
jl
@NotMax: Over a cute little pee stain?
When will this be available in the BJ gear store? Should I start bugging Cole about with high importance all caps emails yet? It’s been at least 15 minutes and this joint advertises itself as a full service blog.
CaseyL
@Bnad: You’re wrong. Look up “The Bonus March.”
WWI vets marched on Washington in 1932 to demand the money they had been promised by the US government in 1924 for their military service. It was the Depression years, and many of them had nothing.
Herbert Hoover called out the police, who shot a few of the veterans to death. Then Hoover called in an Army battalion, led by Douglas MacArthur. They attacked the surviving marchers, who fled.
Haroldo
A@WaterGirl: As has been mentioned, use Adblock Plus (I’m presuming it’s safe) and send John money. That’s what I’ve been doing.
Jay
@jl:
Shirtless camo wearing Putin with Trump Baby in the front babycarrier pack.
TriassicSands
@KsSteve:
Perhaps, master negotiator Trump can arrange for a joint Russian and US military parade. That would be a good start to the merging of our forces.
John Revolta
Why are we all assuming that this visit is Trump’s idea?
I suspect he’s just following orders.
Teddys Person
@CaseyL: @Bnad:
There’s even video.
jl
@Jay: I want all of these ideas up in the air for the benefit of the American people. Right now. Can we crowdfund this?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl:
I hear Cole lives for those.
NotMax
@CaseyL
Worse still, MacArthur ordered them to fire on his own initiative.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Elizabelle:
Link to the image as used here. Dunno about the original provenance.
jl
@John Revolta: ‘Would be nice to visit new US administrative unit. Should call it krais or oblast? I have see before decide. Not republic, that would put bad ideas in new subjects’ heads.’
rikyrah
@maxwelltani: Page Six: After their interview on The View today, Whoopi Goldberg got into a fight backstage with Jeanine Pirro and said… https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/1020050135047385088?s=17
efgoldman
@piratedan: @joel hanes:
It was the Ohio National Guard, not federalized. not federal troops.
B.B.A.
@John Revolta: Seems a bit…overt, even for Putin. I think Trump just wants to see his BFF again, damn the optics.
TriassicSands
@John Revolta:
It’s a bad idea, which is always prima facie evidence pointing to Trump. That may not be the case here. It could be his handler’s idea.
Teddys Person
@B.B.A.:
It’s how Trump rolls.
RedDirtGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Ooh! That is wonderful!
Elizabelle
@Steeplejack (phone): Thank you.
Mike in DC
@CaseyL: Before that, the NY draft riots as covered in Gangs of New York.
hueyplong
My love for that trump baby hindenburg shot is deeper than the ocean. It will sustain me for at least a day or two.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@RedDirtGirl: Thanks, got the visual color version hanging in my bathroom.
ETA: It replaced the same shot taken in Gov. Brown’s first year in office.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Chairman Brown must be pleased by your devotion, comrade!
burnspbesq
@Elizabelle:
The Y chromosome says Andrea Mitchell has never ever loooked “fetching” at any time or under any circumstances.
Brachiator
@CaseyL:
Two died in the initial march. One veteran was an immigrant from Lithuania. These men were killed by the police, not the army.
Majors Eisenhower and Patton served under MacArthur during the government reaction to the first Bonus Army. Eisenhower disagreed with MacArthur’s actions, but followed orders.
There was a second, smaller “Bonus Army” march in 1933. From the Wiki:
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: I never knew that the CHP had a mounted division, I was rather surprised.
Tenar Arha
@jl: I kinda think the fix was in all the way back when Russia started courting the right wing conservatives with their platform of “hey, at least we’re Christian, but still hate some of the groups you hate, like gay people, feminists, Islam, & anyone darker than buff paper.”
I mean it’s as good an explanation as any for how we got this video John Bolton’s Curious Appearance In A Russian Gun Rights Video.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@burnspbesq: Well maybe the crypt keeper finds her fetching.
NotMax
Whoops-ski. (WaPo link)
John Revolta
@B.B.A.: @TriassicSands: If nothing comes of this, then it’s just more Trump Trolling. If it actually happens it’s gotta be orders from the Home Office.
Elizabelle
@burnspbesq: It’s a beautiful dress, you have to admit.
And I was hoping you animal lovers would recognize “fetching” as a way to make you think “woof.” Bow wow. Wow.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: Panic, really?
trollhattan
@burnspbesq:
What, you’ve never seen her retrieve a stick?
Turner Hedenkoff
@efgoldman: True, but in this fucked-up, national-scale Milgram experiment, who knows who’d follow orders?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Chairman Brown.
bluehill
Hoo-boy this is gonna be some October surprise!
TenguPhule
@piratedan:
objection. They might escape or be pardoned by people who have forgotten the severity of their crimes.
NotMax
Wall Street Journal, so no link for full article.
Baud
Vox
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: The simulation we’re in has been kind of phoning it in lately, huh?
hitchhiker
Good effing god, but this is All So Weird.
Sec Neilsen has not seen evidence that her boss saw before he was even inaugurated. She has not seen evidence that was in print in the NYT last night. WTF.
Coats has not been told that our current cyber enemy has been invited to our damn white house for a state visit.
Bill Clinton once spent 30 min alone with the AG, and it was a crisis beyond all measure in Republican-land … but Trump spends 5 times that long alone with our current cyber enemy, comes out to declare that he just can’t be sure what went on in 2016, and it’s strong leader all the way.
Speaking of which, how many private meetings has Trump had with world leaders? With Putin, over and over and over. With Kim, once. Anybody else he needs privacy to talk with?
I’ve so had it. If effing Vladimir really does touch wheels down in our country, we need a general strike. Protest marches won’t do it.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: Ah, the Party of Fiscal Responsibility*.
*Party of Fiscal Responsibility is a registered trademark of the Republican National Committee.
TenguPhule
@NotMax:
What do you mean this wasn’t written by the Onion?!
TenguPhule
@NotMax:
Right in time for the Great Depression of 2019.
Red Ink as far as the eyes can see going forward.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@hitchhiker:
Good luck with that, Americans don’t do general strikes, it’s not part of our culture. Closest thing I can think of was “The Day without Mexicans” here in SoCal.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Bless their hearts.
MomSense
@hitchhiker:
I’m right there with you. Didn’t we also have the three Russian intelligence chiefs travel to DC to do dog knows what and we only found out about it because it was reported on Russian tv. I even think one of them is a Magnitsky Act persona non grata so he had to be given special approval.
And now Fucking Vlad? WTAF
Dev Null
@PaulWartenberg: This. Well said.
TenguPhule
@hitchhiker:
And your solution for the people who need to work to pay rent and eat? And who can be terminated at will by their employers?
John Revolta
@NotMax: Mmmmmboy, the next Dem administration is sure gonna get an earful about The Horrible National Debt Crisis.
Ryan
We can haz Mueller impound Putin’s cellphone? KThxsBye.
jl
@Major Major Major Major: The simulation has fallen into an infinite loop. Everything sucks. We got the alpha version. Some parallel universe got the final release, and hate them.
TenguPhule
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Strikes in general used to be. Until our Unions got neutered.
Ryan
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Would America go for a day with taco trucks on every corner?
jl
@Ryan: Maybe Mueller could subpoena Putin in time for his visit. That would be fun. Could make a good case he is an important witness to a crime.
TenguPhule
@jl:
I understand the second darkest timeline decided even nuclear war was preferable to this neverending shit.
Dev Null
@Elizabelle: Apologies to everyone who’s already responded to Elizabelle’s question:
https://balloon-juice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/trumpenberg-1013×1030.jpg
cursor in the image, right click, select “Copy image address” or download image or whatever. I’m using chrome. The menus will be different for Firefox / Internet Exploder / whatevs.
Dev Null
@dmsilev: moi aussi.
Teddys Person
@hitchhiker:
Well he did shove the PM of Montenegro that one time. Does that count?
NotMax
@TenguPhule
The solution, of course, is more tax cuts for the wealthy.
Just ask ’em.
Darkrose
@?BillinGlendaleCA: That is so cool!
rikyrah
@Teddys Person: I would but one of those.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Darkrose: You can’t go downtown and see that!
rikyrah
@rikyrah: buy one of those
Dev Null
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Hey, waitaminnit. I’m 70 (well, 70-ish) and I have yet to see a breadbox.
Breadboard, that’s a different matter.
Unless you’re talking about Walker’s Shortbread Cookies, in which case you’ll have to wait until October-ish to see the boxes at Costco. ~drools~
Dev Null
@jl: Ooooo! Snap!
I’m selling tickets …
Dev Null
@TriassicSands: Nice!
Dev Null
@TenguPhule:
That’s the inference one would take from their behaviors. They’re all in on retaining power.
Dev Null
@NotMax: Speak for yersef, d00d.
I have a HoneyDo list.
Kinda curtails my internet time…
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Dev Null: I’m 58 and my mom had one, she was from the south, maybe it’s a southern thing.
Dev Null
@Bnad:
Kent State.
Your confidence rests on a foundation of sand.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Dev Null: As efg noted, they were Ohio troops. They were not Federalized and were under the command of the Governor.
Dev Null
@The Midnight Lurker: I second this.
Dev Null
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
This is a meaningless distinction.
Your confidence rests on a foundation of sand.
I suspect our differing opinions will be put to the test in the months to come.
Anyone who thinks that US troops won’t fire on US citizens …
.. I mean, srsly, LE fires on US citizens all the time. Consider Ferguson. Why do you think this will be different?
“Rioters dispersed by live bullets, news at 11.”
I admire your confidence. I wish I could share it.
And reading to the end of the comment thread before responding to any of the comments is a dead loss, as best I can tell.
Should you have a better solution, I’m all ears.
Dev Null
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Yeah, I grew up in the South, too, and my Mom had a breadbox … I think she dumped it circa 1960, because bread always got stale in the box, and the box always smelled of stale bread.
Bad vibe.
“Breadboard” was the term we used at the Really Big Co™ Industrial R&D Lab circa 1980-1990.
efgoldman
@Dev Null:
Both my grandmothers, decidedly not from the South, had breadboxes.
efgoldman
@Dev Null:
You could get into a fetal ball in the corner; seems to work for you.
And National Guard troops activated by the governor but not federalized are not federal troops. But I get that actual facts mean nothing to you.
Police ARE NOT TROOPS even if they think they are.
Dev Null
@?BillinGlendaleCA: And just to say, peaceful DC protesters at Трамп’s inauguration have spent 18 months in legal limbo before charges were dismissed.
Those protesters weren’t an existential threat to Трамп’s regime.
Have you been arrested by local LE? They’re not gentle …
… and that’s for protests that don’t seriously threaten anything.
Protests with potentially existential implications … there will be blood in the streets, Ah betcha.
NotMax
@efgoldman
One on the kitchen counter all the time when I was a youngling, up until we moved into a house whose kitchen had a special extra-deep bread drawer, lined with stainless steel (or maybe it was zinc), with a sliding metal lid one could push back once the drawer was opened.
@Dev Null
Yeah, that unique aroma, once it materialized, was there forever.
Dev Null
@efgoldman: Sneer all you want, dude. You seem to be good at sneering at peeps who disagree with you because their experience differs from yours.
I’ve had close relatives arrested multiple times for civil protest.
But I get that their actual fucking experience means nothing to you, because you’re above it all.
And by the way, DC protesters, 18 months in legal limbo. That’s a huge price for exercising supposed First Amendment rights.
Dev Null
@efgoldman: You’re what, 70? Your grandmothers had breadboxes, when? 1950s?
Might I suggest a connotation shift? Which might be regional, of course.
My family had a breadbox for storing bread.
Electronics in my lifetime have always been built on breadboards.
Possible I missed the thread, in which case you’re welcome to drag me through the mud.
But breadboards were used to roll out bread dough, and breadboards were used to prototype electronic circuits … because they were flat.
Yeah, sure, prototype electronic systems might have been packaged into “breadboxes” … but not in my 35-year career in electronics.
Different regions, perhaps different idioms.
But 3d prototype electronic assemblies called “breadboxes” isn’t anything that resonates with me.
Chris Johnson
From way downthread: as a Vermonter, I’m now convinced Devine has been a Russian agent because I see a pattern in what he’s done and what happened afterward.
That’d suggest that Joe Lieberman, Al Gore, and John Kerry are also Russia tainted, assuming Devine has been working for the Russians the whole time. Lord knows Lieberman got up to some shit. However, I see other patterns with the other three…
Gore was Global Warming guy and terrible at campaigning.
Kerry completely failed. I don’t remember if he cared about anything but he was terrible at campaigning.
Sanders was Evil Billionaires guy and terrible at campaigning.
I think I see a pattern arise: Tad Devine wanted nothing more than to glom on to a politician who’s obsessed with their pet issue and no good at campaigning, and all those guys lost or fucked everything up. I think Devine’s a useful idiot specialist.
This does not mean I think climate change doesn’t exist, or that billionaires aren’t fucking the whole world up and ruining everything: I passionately believe both these issues are urgent and catastrophic. FUNNY THING though, how Devine’s influence managed to deliver enormous setbacks to every single issue that his bosses cared about. Isn’t that a funny coincidence?
Dev Null
@efgoldman:
Jesus Christ, dude, read the comment in context. And perhaps you might dial back on the Olympian sneers.
My point was obvious: I responded to BillinGlendale rather than to you because I saw his comment appeared first, because your comment was further down in the thread.
I was asking for a better solution to fucking reading comments and responding to them.
As for “curling up in a fetal ball”, do you have a reading disorder?
I’ve been out protesting. My close relatives have been out protesting.
What more do you want?
Dev Null
@efgoldman:
You’re just as dead if you’re hit by a local LE bullet as you are if you’re hit by a Federal troop bullet.
Leading with your chin, dude.
TenguPhule
@Chris Johnson:
Not true. I was there. Swift Boats was the precurser to “but her emails!” Kerry ran a decent campaign but the media treatment was biased almost beyond belief.
NotMax
@TenguPhule
Had voting in Ohio not been … questionable, Kerry very well might have won there and that would have been enough to give him the electoral college.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Dev Null: Actually efg’s comment was first, I even referenced that in my comment.
Origuy
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
They didn’t until 1995, when the California State Police, which had responsibility for security at the Capitol, was merged with the CHP.
Rand Careaga
If breadboxes are forgotten, it’s going to make “Twenty Questions” a lot harder.
Rand Careaga
@TenguPhule:
Can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs. Someone else‘s eggs, for choice.
Zinsky
This thread has deteriorated into some prickly pettiness but I absolutely agree with Betty’s thesis – we should overwhelm DC with protests if Pooty-Poot comes to see Trumpo. In fact, that would be a grand time for a mob to overrun the White House and lynch two autocratic greedy perverts from the same tree!
Dev Null
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Missed that, sorry. I thought you were referring to a subsequent efg comment.
My bad, and apologies for the misstep.
I stand corrected on the point.
TenguPhule
@Zinsky:
Just two?
Uncle Cosmo
@?BillinGlendaleCA, @Lapassionara: Um, yinz are aware that Onkel Adi’s infamous “jig” at the French surrender ceremonies in Compiegne was faked, aintcha?
(link)
Dev Null
@jl: +1
Uncle Cosmo
@A Ghost To Most: Gold-plated cowedpiece, goddamnit.
Ruckus
@Joyce Harmon:
Rotten is fine but not yet ripe would be better. Harder, more prone to leave a lasting impression.
Dev Null
@Zinsky:
This shall not stand! I DEMAND A RETRACTION!
The appropriate phrase is petty prickliness!
[time passes]
joking, peeps…
as you were.
G’night, jackals.
J R in WV
@burnspbesq:
I have a really sweet pair of lab mix girls who are really, really fetching, dog toys, mostly. Andrea, no… not so much.
Bill Arnold
@Brachiator:
That’s just DJ Trump taking a bite out of Bolton’s soul; a sadistic loyalty check. (Just an ear, or big toe or something else obvious but non-critical.)
Bill Arnold
[moving to a newer thread]
Amir Khalid
@Elizabelle:
That Trumpenberg image would have made a great album cover, if there were still such things as albums.
dianne
I had the same thought. Putin is coming for the military parade in order to review his troops.